Gil’s criteria for voting: Everyone is fair game. No grandfathering in. Original 50 out! Championships are TEAM awards. I’m looking at personal stats and championships are the cherry on top All NBA > All Star No predicting or fast-forwarding. No future success based on present stats. Stats are CURRENT stats.

@saxonderohan9723

2 жыл бұрын

I would just add that the playoffs are the real test. Regular season is one thing, the playoffs show what a player is really made of. Yes, championships are team awards, but what did YOU do when it mattered most, WIN or Lose?

@TeezyfolKKz

2 жыл бұрын

He has to add into context 3 all-nba format wasn’t added until 1988. Before that - from 1946 you had 10 players selected

@810Batman

2 жыл бұрын

All I can say is thank y'all for the content... Stop crabbing over there!!!

@collectorjay1991

2 жыл бұрын

You have to respect the era of time ahead

@saxonderohan9723

2 жыл бұрын

@@TeezyfolKKz There also weren’t as many teams back in the day, you had NBA vs. ABA, and a lot of those guys back in the day had second jobs as plumbers and shit. 😒

Dwight got disrespected and i don’t think Dame should be on the list and I’m feeling iffy about AD being on the list

@ptyten9718

2 жыл бұрын

AD got a better resume than a good 15+ players on that list, he should be in fs.

@CharifRocka

2 жыл бұрын

@@ptyten9718 No, he shouldn't.

@quadavis4

2 жыл бұрын

@@ptyten9718 what has AD done that’s better than 15 people on this list??

@Bdk2036

2 жыл бұрын

AD doesn't deserve to be there. Hes there baed on what he potentially could be

@tylito4764

2 жыл бұрын

I'm with you

“The Mikan drill?” “That’s CUTE” 😂😂😂😂

Every time Gil says “you gotta remember”, take a shot and see how the rest of your day goes. The legend knows what he’s talking about.

@Max-uj4xc

2 жыл бұрын

There wouldn’t be a “rest of your day” after that many shots lol

@bombay_dreroberts2799

2 жыл бұрын

Now I’m about to count 😂

@amaziahyaohsharal9840

2 жыл бұрын

Gil wasn’t no damn legend lol. He was aight but definitely not a legend

@neapolitanplug5635

2 жыл бұрын

@@amaziahyaohsharal9840 definitely a legend.

@amaziahyaohsharal9840

2 жыл бұрын

@@neapolitanplug5635 agree to disagree.

I see Gilbert and I click immediately! Dude is just always brutally honest

@carma8475

2 жыл бұрын

He be wrong a lot too

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

@@carma8475 True, but at least his perspective is refreshing and objective. He focus on stats way too much. Dennis Rodman intangibles other contributions don't show up in stats. There's no hustle stat. There's also no stat for showing up and hustlin your @ss off. Harden has stats and that's about it.

@Wolverinebj3

2 жыл бұрын

@@Peakfreud objective? 😂😂

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

@@carma8475 Some of those stat lines come when teams were averaging 80pts a game. Two players in todays NBA can give you close to 80 a game.

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wolverinebj3 Yeah Objective, unless you're his psychologist or telepathic, willing to provide some 1/2 @ssed back story in the man's motives.

JJ: "I see a trend here..." GA: "Stop it!" JJ: "BIG MEN!" HILARIOUS EXCHANGE!!!

@jsmoove2194

2 жыл бұрын

GA was thinkin sum racial motivation

Gilbert Arenas is the athlete personality that the culture NEEDS

@samuelhollinquest4096

2 жыл бұрын

California Swag

@KhariConception

2 жыл бұрын

Right

@realitybites8259

2 жыл бұрын

Fosho

@HT-sm9dm

2 жыл бұрын

Not at all. Dude literally just caters to younger millennials and Gen Xers. Most people born before 1988ish disagree with this dude.

@stevenscummy1458

2 жыл бұрын

@@HT-sm9dm He definitely disrespects the oldschool for sure, doesn't like anybody from the 80s or before. I can give him that 1950s players and before probably were pretty weak compared to todays NBA, but there's guys in 60s, 70s, 80s who were greats

2x NBA Champion NBA finals MVP 6x NBA All Star 4x NBA Defensive first team 4x All NBA 16401 pts 4600 assist Joe Dumars

@hyperfixer

2 жыл бұрын

Joe Dumars don’t get no love

@potatopoison1130

2 жыл бұрын

How many seasons?

@hyperfixer

2 жыл бұрын

He playing like 13-14 years

@justinchin6291

2 жыл бұрын

Didnt know he was a finals mvp. Lillard one of my favourite players to watch but man how did he make this list over this resume...

@No-Hassle

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinchin6291 didn’t play with Rodman, Thomas, or Lambeir

They made the NBA Top 75 Most influential list. Gil hit it on the head

@ParamoreFAV3

2 жыл бұрын

FACT

@4363HASHMI

Жыл бұрын

Popularity contest?

Could you imagine if Gil was playing now his post game interviews would be legendary 🤣

@KingTae24

2 жыл бұрын

Fr 😂

Gotta respect the pioneers and the old school - the game wouldn’t be where it is today if it weren’t for them. There’s a difference between skill and greatness.

@t-god2439

2 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment so true dabble in 5 areas vs master a few and be great

@4EvurPosters

2 жыл бұрын

Fact but it’s many players that are better now, than.

@dusk6159

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, that context is needed too. And they had their huge share of tough stuff too, with the old hard rules on stats, moves etc.

@ajajala5081

2 жыл бұрын

@@4EvurPosters that's not the essence of a top 75. It's not who has the better skill set , it's about how dominant where they in their era. What did you achieve in your era? Can't compare 21st century players to early 20th century players in skillet . Lol at the equipment , sport science, literally how people shoot and dribble have changed . People that argue skillset don't understand anything about a top 75. Tbh the list should have never been done in the first place.

I just love how objective n honest Gil is on his podcast.. this podcast is kinda underrated in comparison to other podcasts... he’s actually severely underrated as a basketball knowledgable person & underrepresented in the basketball world, of media commentating.

@penkima4923

2 жыл бұрын

If Gil was objective and honest, he would say he doesn't know a thing about the basketball world pre-1985. They should do a post-1985 list, not the full history.

@Greenfrom3

2 жыл бұрын

@@penkima4923 he really does disrespect the old heads lol

It's insane that so many people and players disrespect Patrick Ewing...saying Dwight Howard is greater, and Ewing is not top 75, etc. Ewing is an easy top 50, and Howard is a top 75.

@TheIcemanthomas

2 жыл бұрын

Their resumes are debatable, what separates them was the longevity of ewings run. He was a better talent too. But resume wise, obviously due to ewings comp, he lost out on a lot of awards that he would’ve won if not for Hakeem, Robinson, and shaq.

@sportstalkwithzo3707

2 жыл бұрын

Think about it, Ewing played in the league from 85 through the 90s played in a more defensive era with some of the greatest centers and to me he was the least dominate of them all and dwight was a more defensive minded player so if you put him in that era he dominates even more

@kifley19

2 жыл бұрын

Ewing averaged 21pts and 10reb for his career with 2 NBA finals appearances. He is easily top 50.

@dootscoot1444

2 жыл бұрын

Ewing is trash

@dmck8516

2 жыл бұрын

Actually Pat Ewing was a big that could shoot and played Defense. Howard had no offensive game whatsoever

Gil is hilarious. At this rate, he's about to have 5 people on his list

These dudes keep trying to insult Pat Ewing for Dwight Howard...FOH

@mycitysucks8096

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, the battles against the Bulls alone say it all.

@gilfordmccormack8140

2 жыл бұрын

West Coast Bias

@sportstalkwithzo3707

2 жыл бұрын

Naw dwight would dominate ewing in a more defensive era, ewing played in the best era of big men from 85-00 and he was the least dominate and he wasnt a game changer, dwight just off of defensive skill alone dominates that era more then ewing overall game

@dontaerussell692

2 жыл бұрын

@@sportstalkwithzo3707 man Ewing had skills, so he would've gave Dwight buckets. Dwight couldn't even slow down the big men he played against, he only blocked the shots of guards in the lane, but the big men gave him buckets. Howard was just athletic, once that slowed down, he fell off..

When you think about what Gil says: “would this guy make top 50 off his in game production?” And it makes his bubble players seem legit

I like how honest they’re being frfr…. Dwight Howard, Tony Parker hell Manu Ginobili could be argued to on this list as well… Dwight Howard not being on is still crazy to me

@TRELL3132

2 жыл бұрын

If you gone argue manu you gotta argue Tmac first

@rj-izzard

2 жыл бұрын

@@TRELL3132 true🔥

@Shawnantonioexperience

2 жыл бұрын

Manu and Tony?! FOH! Dwight, definitely!

@kevpersau950

2 жыл бұрын

@@TRELL3132 wait tmac wasnt on the the list??????

@TRELL3132

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevpersau950 nope

The mass media hates when former players debunk their false narratives. 💯

@lilbrah4794

2 жыл бұрын

I find it hilarious that the ppl making the lists and giving criticism (cough Steven A) would get cooked by the worst player in the NBA

@rallacewasheed1422

2 жыл бұрын

All FACTS

@bilogskii2216

2 жыл бұрын

There's no false narrative here though, just not the best list you could come up with. Some of the old players like Alex English or Bernard King isn't there also so there's no huge biased towards the older players.

@luismoreno9633

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think they care lmao

Dwight over Ewing is nuts 🤦🏾‍♂️😂😂😂

@sochillcyp

2 жыл бұрын

It's not it's facts

@averyt6521

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@ThePrayinmantiz

Жыл бұрын

@@sochillcyp - what facts...🤣🤣

Keeping top 50 original was political move.

@369pendulum

2 жыл бұрын

You call it political, I call it classy.

@kingshottah4429

2 жыл бұрын

@@369pendulum Stupid* The game evolves and players from the 50s dont belong in the same sentence of some of the newer players

@369pendulum

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingshottah4429 This list is meant to pay homage to the history of the league & the players that helped build it. If you don't understand that then nothing I say will matter to you.

@MNMuscle

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingshottah4429 the game evolves players get physically better, but how dominant was that player in that era? Stats and rules are different now. JR Smith is better than everyone in the 60’s but was he a better player during his era than they were in theirs?

@kingshottah4429

2 жыл бұрын

@@MNMuscle JR Smith SKILL wise could dominate in the 50s. I know that sounds crazy to say but if you really think about the skill gap between him and the players of the 50s he would be a star. Would it translate to championships probably not but he would dominate other guards of that era. I'm sorry but George Mikan could not and would not be able to guard a guy like Embiid.

Bruh don’t disrespect Ewing like that. Gil did you even watch him play? Lol He had like 10 straight 20 and 10 plus seasons. Carried a franchise for more than a decade. He played both sides of the ball. Could score inside and out.

@TJAvant95

2 жыл бұрын

Carried? 😂🤦🏽‍♂️

@Jboooog18

2 жыл бұрын

@@TJAvant95 Uhhh yeaaah carried

@mycitysucks8096

2 жыл бұрын

@@TJAvant95 yeah Pat carried them. They had good overall teams but Ewing was the man

@TJAvant95

2 жыл бұрын

@@mycitysucks8096 lmao...the man 😭

@TJAvant95

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jboooog18 lmao...man, how that go ? 😂. go ahead and go to google then let me know. Ahead of Dwight, 😂😂 ok

Thank you for putting effort into the list!!!! I lost respect for the nba when they released the biased Popularity75. They did Dwight dirty.

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

That list should have been tossed in the trash, when they put James Harden on it. Harden and the Refs are the Best Big 3 ever.

@tommartinez3840

2 жыл бұрын

Dwight Howard maybe top 100?

@depps.7097

2 жыл бұрын

@@Peakfreud stop the cap 👎🏾😂

@TheIcemanthomas

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommartinez3840 stop. That’s disrespectful. He’s top 50 without question. There isn’t 40 players with his resume let alone 75-100.

@mikejones9906

2 жыл бұрын

Lmaoo Dwight Howard is garbage, stop the cap..

You can tell how much more respect Gil has for JJ than the previous cohost makes a much funnier smoother dialogue, salute

@boonz47

2 жыл бұрын

What happened to the old co-host? I haven't been keeping up

ewing was offensively and defensively better than dwight but D12 still deserve a spot om the lis

@treyneal8837

2 жыл бұрын

No he wasn't defensively. Good try though

@cballantine8096

2 жыл бұрын

@@treyneal8837 Your crazy. Patrick Ewing was averaging 4 blocks and played 82 games. The most Dwight averaged in one season was 2.9 blocks

ALL NBA should weigh more than All Star but All Star is STILL important

@xxstract28

2 жыл бұрын

Nah All-star is fan vote aka popularity. Gil got it right.

@jasonau427

2 жыл бұрын

@@xxstract28 Its not 100% fan vote.

@lorenenoch5519

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe allstar selections in this era but back then like he said there were maybe 8 to 12 total teams. You could put up sub par to average numbers and make it

@pandabear1576

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonau427 for the starters the fans determine that. Bench players getting coach recognition means nothing. It’s always been all-nba and all-pro over the all star games

@jasonau427

2 жыл бұрын

@@pandabear1576 If you actually read my comment the FIRST thing I said was ALL NBA should weigh more than All Star. Then, I said All Star voting is not 100% fan vote. It’s not. Fan vote is 50%. Current players and media split the remaining 50%. Read and digest what people are saying BEFORE you respond.

Wilkins, Ewing, Rodman , worthy are definitely in

@izzy9189

2 жыл бұрын

If Rodman is in then Ben Wallace is in. Rodman was a great defensive player, other than that he never carried a team night in night out or was the go to guy. Dude made 2 all star teams, and after he left Isiah and Jordon , what was he?? So no Rodman is not top 75.

@Victor-dg9eg

2 жыл бұрын

Rodman and Ewing doesn’t have enough to be there

@agentflipp865

2 жыл бұрын

Besides Wilkins name being attached to Jordan in the dunk contest… what else has he accomplished?

@mca217

2 жыл бұрын

@@agentflipp865 check Nique's stats

@declaytor

2 жыл бұрын

Wilkins is number 1 among the group of 4 and he was left off original Top 50.

I love Gilbert’s basketball mind Totally agree with him on the way to judge this list More people should take notice of what he says. If Kobe co-signed him then what’s the problem!

Crazy for saying Dwight was above Patrick Ewing. Dwight should be on, but Ewing was doing what Dwight did on Defense and gave you 25pts on offense. He was All NBA 1st or 2nd team 7 times when there were real centers in the league. End of Kareem, Hakeem, Robinson, Parrish, Moses, Alonzo Mourning, Mutombo etc. That’s disrespect to Patrick man.

@SkinsFan902

2 жыл бұрын

I dont recall Ewing winning 3 DPOYs, 5 rebounding titles or being the most dominant defensive force in the league for a decade. Lets not get carried away glorifying Alonzo and Dikembe as if they were any better than Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. Ewing had the production of a slightly tougher version of KAT with less skill and a worse jumper

@boogie749

2 жыл бұрын

Ewing averages more blocks for his career than Dwight. But Dwight does have him in rebounds, but again Ewing played with a rebounding monster in Charles Oakley for most of his career and still basically averaged 10 for almost 20 years. Different era man, respectfully.

@ThePrayinmantiz

Жыл бұрын

@@SkinsFan902 - would Dwight win those if he was going against Hakeem, David Robinson, Mutombo, Zoe, etc..and he wouldn't have those rebound numbers either so just stop it already..is Dwight good and maybe deserve to be on the list yes ...but everyone that knows basketball knows they would take Ewing over Dwight not even close...Ewing would eat his lunch on both sides of the court with bad knees on top of that....🤣🤣🤣

@MACHOMAN-tw8op

Жыл бұрын

I meeaaannnnnn, you are right. But I say Hakeem was the best center in his era. Actually was becuz Hakeem was the only Center to win a chip in his era.

T-Mac was arguably the best player in the world for about half a decade. He was 7-time all star AND 7-time all-NBA, plus a scoring champ... That's not enough? I feel like being top 3 for 6 or 7 years is just as significant as being top 15 for, say, 12 years. In the same vein, one could make an argument that being an MVP -- i.e., THE (supposedly) best player for a given year -- should automatically qualify someone barring some extreme unforeseen circumstance (i.e., only having 2 or 3 healthy seasons before an injury). Anybody who's a multi-time MVP, it's a no-brainer. The argument for a dude like Mikan is that he was _far and away_ the best player of his era. It was a crappy era but he was clearly that dude. He shot 40%, sure, but _offense as we know it literally hadn't been invented yet._ People weren't even taking jump shots. Audiences were throwing batteries and stuff... games were played in _cages!_ If you're not going to ding guys for shooting insane percentages now when you can't hand check them, don't ding George for playing during an era where people could body check you and it wasn't even a foul.

@ryanhollinsbwood1787

2 жыл бұрын

1. He was not the best player in the world at any point 2. He never made it out the first round 3. He played no defense

@MICjordanTPR

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanhollinsbwood1787 Maybe you're too young to remember him before the injuries but he used to be a MONSTER on defense. Please stop, you're embarrassing yourself. Also, Mike never made it out of the first round until Pippen got there. He was STILL arguably the best player in the world by his third season. It's funny but total chips didn't factor into his crowning as the GOAT in the early 90s. Once he won ONE it was like "okay he's there."

@jordanfauntleroy2013

2 жыл бұрын

TMAC was always behind Kobe. Kobe was the best player for almost a decade, right up until Lebron reached his prime lol. I don't no how you would say TMAC was the best for 6 or 7 years.

@MICjordanTPR

2 жыл бұрын

@@jordanfauntleroy2013 Never said that. He was IN THE DISCUSSION for about half a decade (which is only 5 years). He might have actually been the best for 2. But Kobe himself consistently said that TMac was his equal before the back injuries. You don't know basketball better than Kobe Bryant.

@jordanfauntleroy2013

2 жыл бұрын

@@MICjordanTPR Never heard TMAC in the discussion. I would hear the Kobe and MJ discussion. Kobe might have felt that he was his equal, however fans and players had Kobe as the best player in the leauge for a decade, just right before Lebron reached his prime.

Numbers change through eras though, and some points aren’t as meaningful as other

I want Gil to make a list of the top 50 basketball players of all time. No talk about championships or accolades. No talk about careers, wins, or longevity. How good were you at your peak? What do you do on the court? Guys like TMac, Carmelo, Kyrie, and Gil, would be on this style of list over the traditional list that typically takes everything but overall skill into consideration.

Dame and AD belong on the top 100 list that will come out in 25 years, but not the top 75

Dwight Howard is in no way ahead of Patrick Ewing in my opinion.

Walton is included b/c he DOMINATED college.... MVP..Finals MVP.. 6th man of the year...He may be the only NBA player to have all three...but gill is right his numbers arent what everybody elses are due to injury.

Tracy McGrady deserves to be on the list.

@QuestionEverything562

2 жыл бұрын

No, he really doesn't. He doesn't even really belong in the HOF, but the HOF's standards are so low that Vlade Divac is in there. T-Mac ain't top 75.

@messishaanika7698

2 жыл бұрын

End of

@jimmyrodriguez5670

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree. I don't think he even got out of the first round when he was relevant.

As I watched this, I kept thinking how great Tmac was and if he wasn’t hurt as much with more winning he would be top 10 all time. Same with Walton.

Yall forgot about Tony Parker

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. And Joe Dumars. Tony is a Victim of how low key and Professional that spurs team was.

Gil should be on this list for inventing the 1-4 flat

I know Gilbert arenas played in the NBA but their's no way I'm putting dwight howard over Patrick Ewing. It's called the eye test.

@BrotherO4

2 жыл бұрын

The eye argument is only used when nothing else supports your point. It’s funny how the stats are only used when it supports the point people want and than those same stats are thrown out when it doesn’t

Take a shot everytime Gil says "put him up there" lol

Players could make their own list based on current players. But when it comes to all time lists, era bias is gonna be too apparent if players vote

Based off of Gil's criteria, Rodman isn't on there; but as a player that actually impacted the game stats don't always tell the story and rodman impacted winning as the ultimate role player in a league where you still had dominant big men and he was 6'7" snatching rebounds and playing physical defense, so he deserves to at least be in there

@BiznessBoog

2 жыл бұрын

I like what you said there with Dennis Rodman being the ULTIMATE role player. I consider Bill Russell the ULTIMATE ROLE PLAYER, i dont think hes the GOAT, his 11 rings dont count to me towards his GOAT claim cus he was a part of the most dominating team in the league back then. He was just the center on the greatest team assembled back then. he got mvp's but when you can avg 25 rebs as a role player you have to get recognized for that. but he was ultimately a great team player.

@chrissymonds2097

2 жыл бұрын

@@BiznessBoog that is a great example. Bill Russell though, even though he had a specific role, he was still the best player on that team, even though he didn't score all the points as someone like wilt, his specific role was different cause he had guys to rely upon to get those buckets. Wilt just had to take the ball and say get out of my way.

@t-god2439

2 жыл бұрын

@@BiznessBoog bro go watch art of the block it will give you a different appreciation for him

George Mikan averaged 28.4 pts in the 50-51 season while the average ppg for the league was 80 pts. That's 35.5% of a teams pts per game. When Harden won the scoring title in 2019 with 36 ppg, the Rockets averaged 116.4. That's only 31% of the team's points. If you adjust numbers by seasons and eras, them Mikan would average well over 40pts per game

Gil just gave me the Cajones to Question players I didn't even dare to Question. He definitely has a mastererful perspective of Hoopin

I think you also have to take into account impact on the game too not just stats

Gil not valuing winning is hilarious 😭😭

@GetWokeGoBroke69

2 жыл бұрын

Winning is a team stats, This is individual. If you want go by winning then Robert Horry should be top 75.

@bryanttisdale2446

2 жыл бұрын

What can you expect from him playing on Washington Wizards.. His Gannis take.

Gilbert high for taking Rodman out… 😵

@atmjefe

2 жыл бұрын

Rodman ain't top 75 💯

@legendal2463

2 жыл бұрын

@@atmjefe he top 100

Kinda inconsistent on the All NBA. If you’re all NBA more than 5x that’s dominating an era lol. Idk see how you’re “on the list”.

@amaziahyaohsharal9840

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t recall Wes Unseld being on his bubble list. Wes has 1 all NBA, 1 title, 5 all star appearances, averaged 10points, 10,624 total points, 13,769 total rebounds.

@tylergiamartino7709

2 жыл бұрын

@@amaziahyaohsharal9840 that’s what I was thinking but they 100% forgot about him💀

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Mikan makes the list hands down. The fact it’s even a question is crazy. Yes Mikan has 10k points, he only played 7 seasons in a different era. They also didn’t record rebounds until he almost retired.

@reodagreo7637

2 жыл бұрын

Plus he changed rules making the game more modern. Plus, as commissioner of the ABA he invented the 3 point line (tho that's irrelevant on this list).

@joriancobb3609

2 жыл бұрын

Impact is irrelevant to how Gil is building his list

@KXNG_Clee

2 жыл бұрын

Mikan is a big no. Youre going off emotion

@DavidPerez-re1uk

2 жыл бұрын

@@KXNG_Clee the NBA’s first superstar

@KXNG_Clee

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidPerez-re1uk so hes better skillwise than Dwight Howard? Going off your emotions my guy

I feel like career FG percentage/efficiency should be a huge factor in this as well.

its dope that gil was backing up dwight being on the list and just going in on that topic. definitely think that omission from the list definitely diminishes the legitimacy of it. people who watched him when he played know.

I love these interviews

I love Gil’s prospective . His basketball i.q is crazy 💯

I respect the fuck outta gill. He keeps it real!..the mainstream sport networks don’t want him on T.V!

I cant wait for the next episode. Also give us 90 minutes from now on

Defensive player of the year is important to me but its funny how the Nba says the game has changed ,players have to guard 1-5 but give defensive player of the year to Rudy gobert who i watched for years leave jokic open for three and sit under the basket. Then youre gonna say its coaching. Well they’ll never win in Utah. Bam and AD are better defensive players than Rudy Gobert.

@scottedwards6578

2 жыл бұрын

Rudy just to slow to guard out there

@emmanuelmoses7249

2 жыл бұрын

Facts. Gobert is great, but he's not as versatile as an AD or a Bam.. AD is like prime KG he can lock up on the perimeter and also anchor the defense in the middle, Yet gobert always gets the nod for DPOY.

@smesh8318

2 жыл бұрын

Rudy’s more of a defensive anchor than a Dpoy.. guys like Hakeem could really guard all 5 positions, Rudy can BLOCK all positions, not guard them though

So now I know who the co-host is. Not knowing Josiah Johnson’s name for so long was more ridiculous than the NBA Top 75 Players List.

@RashaadFontenot

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I was looking for it too!

@rallacewasheed1422

2 жыл бұрын

Well I just got used to saying Gil & Ole dude... lol Knowing his name is sort of weirding me out...😂😂

Dwight Howard should be on the list no doubt but better then Ewing is blasphemous

I like his approach!!

Bruh one of the things says "Does Giannis belong on this list?" why is that even a question, what is gilberts problem?

@eroc2012

2 жыл бұрын

He made the point early on that he doesn’t like having current players on there aside for guys like Bron and KD. Those guys are stamped. Only thing that throws me off is that he doesn’t hesitate with Harden. Harden and Giannis(taking away his chip) are sort of in that same bracket. So I don’t agree, but you can’t have one and not the other in my opinion.

@YoungMajorian

2 жыл бұрын

With current players, you have to compare there current body of work to what others have done. If he stopped playing right now, has he done enough to be top 75? 12500 points, 5 all nbas, 5 time all star, 4 time all defense, 2 time MVP, 1 ring.

@OldAfrobeats

2 жыл бұрын

@@YoungMajorian DPOY, finals MVP

@skywalkin2186

2 жыл бұрын

@@YoungMajorian points wise I get what you saying but accolade wise he kinda already there

@griffon8330

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh it a bit early for Giannis. Dude will be if he continue and does this for another 3-5 years

For dudes from 50s, points and rebound totals dont mater , since most 50s players played a max of 6-8 years or fewer so its about dominance, mikan played 6 yrs, and was all nba all 6 yrs petit played 11 and was all nba all 11 yrs

@emmanuelmoses7249

2 жыл бұрын

Also, Petit got buckets on Bill Russell, got a championship over the Celtics dynasty, Russell was injured but still lol

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

Stats don't measure hustle, intangibles and hustling night in night out for instance Kyrie Stats ain't doing the Nets any good. Rodman has 5 rings and made every team he was on better And James Harden, stats are hollow He and the Refs are the greatest Big 3 in history.

@CBarber22

2 жыл бұрын

@@Peakfreud that makes no sense, Kyrie and Harden had the best plus minus of any duo in the league last season and the best record at 22-5. If you want empty stats look at Brad Beal and Zach Lavine

@Peakfreud

2 жыл бұрын

@@CBarber22 Cool Story bro. Kyrie is not playing therefore his stats are meaningless. You're comprehension makes no sense. Thus showing up to hustle Night in night out. If you want to Segue into a conversation, kid rocks with the Steven A. Impersonation that $hits lame. Not every one wants to banter and the Argumentative corny $hit.

Dwight is not better then Patrick Ewing.Ewing was a beast with a jumped

"I'm gonna put you up there" is hilarious every time

Kawhi is definitely on that list, he is top 30.

@freddycalipari4242

2 жыл бұрын

based on his individual accolades? not even close. 10k career points at 30 and the guy has an injury history.

@QuestionEverything562

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think Kawhi is top 30, but definitely top 50.

@freddycalipari4242

2 жыл бұрын

@@QuestionEverything562 if he retired today not even too 100

@QuestionEverything562

2 жыл бұрын

@@freddycalipari4242 Kawhi literally took the Raptors on his back to a championship title, is one of the most complete efficient 2-way players of all-time, he's easily top 50. What's your case against Kawhi not even being top 100? You honestly think Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli are greater than him? Can you even name 100 players before him?

@deacon3276

2 жыл бұрын

For sure top 75 2 championships 2 finals mvps 5 time all star 5 time all nba 2 time dpoy 7 time all defense that’s top 75 to me

You can’t just use numbers. Guys like Worthy and Parish played with other all time greats so their career individual weren’t going to be crazy. Also Vince was playing in an era with Kobe, Iverson. This is why you can’t just use one criteria. You gotta factor in a bunch of things that’s why it’s so hard to breakdown.

@jimmyrodriguez5670

2 жыл бұрын

Vince is the greatest dunker of all time. I can't believe he doesn't just get an automatic ticket.

Great episode I wish it was longer

Gilbert going old school with the notebook paper. Get a tablet bro. 😂😂😂

Anthony Davis shouldn’t be on there man. I don’t know many of those old players but I’ve watched AD and that’s ridiculous

@jour25

2 жыл бұрын

Barring injury he’s been the best power forward ever since he’s been in the league.. Top 3 player in the league right now! I can see him being the best player of the decade if he stays healthy..

@chilout2496

2 жыл бұрын

@@jour25 ok that’s cute. You can say too 75 talents but not too 75 player of all time

@MrFlynn47

2 жыл бұрын

@@jour25 he isn’t better than Steph, Giannis or KD right now. You could even say PG13 is better as of this moment. Then you have Bron, Kawhi, Butler… Morant has been killing it. Early days, but AD isn’t top 3 right now.

@lemzpotutan2839

2 жыл бұрын

If this is how you view the best player of the decade? Goodness. You on doobii? Or just casual? Dont throw takes that you cannot sustain!

@lemzpotutan2839

2 жыл бұрын

Too 3 player right now in the League? Simple!! Lebron, Giannis and Steph. Goat Freak and Goat! Kd did almost made it to finals but Steph is the scoring champ.

I think if it is the top 75, the NBA should not account for active players. I agree with Gil on how to judge who deserve to be greatest by stats. Instead, I believe NBA should give out more recognition by era or accolades.

@deebrown9263

2 жыл бұрын

But some active players has been in the league longer than retired players, Lebron, Cp3, even harden , KD and Russ so that’s not really an issue unless it’s someone been in the league 5-8 years

@dazzzzaaa

2 жыл бұрын

@@deebrown9263 I am just saying if the player is still playing, they have room to grow. The best time to judge whether a player is top 75, i think it is only fair that they are judged after they have decide to retire.

@pandabear1576

2 жыл бұрын

@@dazzzzaaa that’s wrong though. If a player is 12 years in they have no room to grow. Their stats will grow but their careers are clearly established to judge their all time ranking

@dazzzzaaa

2 жыл бұрын

@@pandabear1576 A player can play 30 years but their stats might not be as good as LBJ or Westbrook. Vince Carter is a great example but he redefined the crowd and its expectation. He made dunking so beautiful to watch. Jaw dropping even. That is why i suggested also for the NBA to recognise his talent. Most influential NBA player, I reckon Vince Carter deserves top 10.

@nighthawk326

2 жыл бұрын

Nah...if you accomplished enough to be in top 75, you should be considered for top 75.

If Harden only average like 20 pts this season, it just proves that his stats are inflated due to the foul rules. Then he needs to go out. Btw the All-NBA are voted on by the media too so it's not more valid than All-Star. There needs to be a player vote list. A lot of players in the 60s and 50s have inflated stats too. If anything, gotta take stats and pacing into consideration.

@nakaine7

2 жыл бұрын

Chang

@beanflicker9919

2 жыл бұрын

Your trippin if harden isn’t a top 75 player

@jimmyrodriguez5670

2 жыл бұрын

I hated Harden for a long time, but after those back to back dunks in Draymond's face during the playoffs, I can't deny his greatness anymore. I'm still not a fan (and never will be), but to deny his greatness is to expose your ignorance of the game.

Gil bugging with the Ewing comparison. Ewing is better than Dwight. Ewing just played in a Era where he had better competition at his position. But numbers wise he better than Dwight in almost everything. Dwight deserves to be on that list but at the expense of other players like Rodman for sure..

@jimmyrodriguez5670

2 жыл бұрын

I'm getting real confused at the lack of respect for Rodman. Where is this all coming from? I don't see how any rational and knowledgeable NBA fan could put Howard over Rodman. And to not even mention Nash as a questionable addition is really confusing. I get the 2MVP argument but if he was that great of a player, he should have been able to at least make it to the finals.

@Daleoman

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimmyrodriguez5670 I can't take what you said about Rodman being better than Dwight serious. It's just ridiculous in so many ways. I'll just say this, name 1 year where Rodman was the best player in his team. Let me help with that NEVER.!!

“Name off the player” - Genius. We just need to let Gill vote.

Cause you gotta amember. Lol I thoroughly enjoy this pod.

14:58 Gill: “Billy Cunningham” Pause Gil: Ehhh! 😂😂😂😂

Dwight in front of Ewing lol.....stop Gil 🤣🤣🤣

This is a perfect example of a deep level thinker debating with a surface level thinker

Problem is guys like Gil just talk about "stats" and numbers. The greatest players debate is about accolades! Greatest in comparing era's is all about accolades. Stats are affected by rules at that particular time. Accolades are not as much if at all really.

@ganzvv3726

2 жыл бұрын

Tracy Mcgrady is a prime example! Great stats and was a killer, but dude could never make it out the first round.

To be fair, the way Gil is determining his list, is a great objective method which could eventually turn subjective. I think taking the names away shows the accolades on their own which is great. Then, the nuance can come from the remainder of whoever is from the pool.

Where can we find gils list of his 75

gilbert arenas so funny he literally said lets take winning out of the criteria like the game is about anything else

@bryanttisdale2446

2 жыл бұрын

He forgot earlier players didn't have a shot clock so no they don't have a huge number of points. Other stats weren't counted either. Finally Gil a ...Washington Wizard discounts winning 🤭😅🤣.(please insert joke here).

@vaudou_

2 жыл бұрын

Championships are team awards

@nabylingnabyling7658

2 жыл бұрын

@@vaudou_ and basketball is a team sport

Interesting watch but Gilbert's analysis is still flawed. He's taking about career numbers which rewards longevity. But then uses a metric like all NBA and won't account for how many other good players were vying for those all NBA slots. Patrick Ewings all NBA selections at center are more valuable than Dwight Howards when you look at the caliber of centers playing in those time periods. Dwight Howard deserved to be in, I'm reacting to Gilbert saying Howard would go ahead of Ewing.

@mikejones9906

2 жыл бұрын

Lol Imagine thinking Dwight Howard is better than Patrick Ewing, this dude Arenas loves to troll.

@QuestionEverything562

2 жыл бұрын

Fr, that made Gilbert sound like such a casual. D-12 in any universe, is not better than Ewing. Ewing is a top 50 player of all-time, D-12 is a top 75 player of all-time.

@messishaanika7698

2 жыл бұрын

Good point

The Nfl after every season does a top 100 list of current players voted by the NFL players themselves. The NBA should consider jumping on that idea and doing something exactly like that. Maybe do a top 30 since they have way less players per roster. Would be great to view who the players themselves feel are the best in the league coming into every season.

@sportstalkwithzo3707

2 жыл бұрын

Great idea

This is the best gil discussion so far _👍_

This the only time i disagree with Gil Pat was dominant the bulls carried 3 to 4 centers just for Pat

@jaydell4039

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Ewing was better scorer and shot blocker. Also dwight played in an era when there were no bigs lol. Who the hell is Dwight competing against. Ewing had David robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaq, Rik Smits, mutombo, Alonzo mourning. Dwight wasn’t going up against any scoring bigmen in his prime. At one point his comp was Andrew Bynum 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I LOVE how Gil fights for Dwight Howard. No way the history of the NBA is told without Superman!

@seankelly4594

2 жыл бұрын

Yes the hell it is he’s not even the real super man in the nba

@Clarkbar79

2 жыл бұрын

@@seankelly4594 he got defensive player of the year 3 times man wtf.

@qdeezy21

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, he gave a bad example though..Ewing was a far better offensive player, had more blocks too

Gilbert’s objectivity is respectable

What about Pau Gasol? 4x all nba, not seeing him mentioned at all

@KOH_95

2 жыл бұрын

Are you high or drunk or both? 🥴🤨🤨🤨

@pandabear1576

2 жыл бұрын

@@KOH_95 pau averaged 18 for 16 straight years and gave you 2 blocks, 4 assists, and 10 rebounds during that entire run. On top of the individual achievements and two titles. That’s a valid question by Matty

@KOH_95

2 жыл бұрын

@@pandabear1576 Hell you didn’t hear about no Pau Gasol til he got to the LAKERS!!!!

I rock with Gil but he contradicted himself a million times here. Points count.... unless they're "empty". Rings dont count but he snubs non winners. All Star doesn't count cause it's a popularity contest.... MVP is OK though. I couldnt follow but it was an entertaining discussion as always.

@369pendulum

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah he was talking nonsense, but he always a fun watch. Thank God he doesn't run the NBA lol

@euntaepark6001

2 жыл бұрын

MVP should be OK.. You comparing MVP to All Stars? Lol

@Valorant_Dem0n97

Жыл бұрын

All NBA and MVPs carry the weight

I disagree on the ewing vs Howard take… people forget ewing was the only reason the knicks was any good fr😂yes they had starks, mason etc but without ewing I don’t think they woulda ever made the playoffs… mans put up 28 10 and 2 with a steal and 4 blocks a game playing all 82 games🤧that’s pretty fuckin tuff lol😂

@cloud9nate752

2 жыл бұрын

nah at dwight peak he was in the mvp decision with bron and went to finals. he was the only the magic was anything plus he got chip

@colej6108

2 жыл бұрын

@@cloud9nate752 first of all he got a chip cuz of bron and ad and that magic team was stacked.. nelson, carter, hedo turk, pietrus, redick, barnes, rashard lewis, bass, courtney lee… ewing was the only reason the knicks were even close to a playoff team😂 the magic had like 5 guys scoring in double digits dwight the highest at 20 lewis 17 nelson 16 Vince 16, Turk 16, people forget how stacked this team was… shit I did😂I thought they was for sure making the finals

@QuestionEverything562

2 жыл бұрын

@@cloud9nate752 Ewing took the Knicks to the Finals as well, finished in top 5 MVP race more times than Howard, was the much better offensive player, and anchored a top 10 defense 10x in his great career. Dawg please, D-12 is not even in Ewing's league. Ewing was so much more skilled and reliable than Alley Oop D-12 and his no low post ass game.

I think ppl don't understand the difference between greatest and best. If you're looking at the best, the list would be filled with current players. Greatest is more than stats. Impact on the game and league is more towards greatness than just the numbers and skill set.

16:48 lmfao "the Mikan Drill?, That's cute"

when you match up stats and stats in their prime Ewing is better than D12 i just lost this argumen to an old head at work and i looked and had to concede lol

@itsalluptous5058

2 жыл бұрын

Big diffence in playstyle and sera

@jaydell4039

2 жыл бұрын

Ewing was way better. Way Better scorer and better shit blocker. Dwight never blocked 4 shots per game in his career

@sportstalkwithzo3707

2 жыл бұрын

If you put dwight in the 80s and 90s he dominates even more gotta remember guys no 3pt shot so the league was all jumpshots and postplay 1st, ewing played in the best era of big men from 85-2000 and he was the least dominate of them all

My issue with the top 75 list is that the top 50 encompassed the first 50 years. Fair enough. That said, if you don't revisit it and compile an entirely new list then they shouldn't have been able to reach back and add guys that were omitted from the original 50. If they were going to grandfather people in then slots 51-75 should've only been for guys who hadn't played at least 8-10 years when the top 50 dropped. Dominique should've absolutely been on the top 50 but once he was snubbed he shouldn't have been added. Reggie Miller, Gary Payton, & Dennis Rodman shouldn't have been in consideration either. That's 4 spots for people like Tmac, Dwight, & whoever. That said, Dominique & Payton probably should've been named instead of Parrish & Lenny Wilkens in the first place. For me, I'd take out Parrish, Rodman, & Lenny Wilkens and add in TMac, Dwight, & Hill.

@codenamedancerx

2 жыл бұрын

T-Mac, Dwight & Hill? Find the Orlando Magic fan! (Kidding)

@carlosgreen878

2 жыл бұрын

I feel u only thing is the dudes u named were still playing adding to there legacy so it makes sense to add a guy after he plays but I do agree if u weren't playing when first fifty came out u should not be added for example any player in league when 75 came out can't b added at 100 really think about how much a dude change over years

@SportsSpeak73

2 жыл бұрын

@@carlosgreen878 that would make sense if they hadn't already included active players with the top 50 list. There were like 9 active players on that list, one of which was Shaq who had only played 3-4 seasons at that point.

Gilbert Arenas is a mad genius 🧪

The NBA Maestro is at it again . Good work Gil !

No player before the 80s should be on it. They wouldn’t even make a roster in today’s league. If you want to include them then do a 50 - 70s top 75, 80 - 90s top 75, 00 - 10s top 75

@jaydell4039

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah u make no sense and don’t get it lol.

@Max-uj4xc

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaydell4039 let me put it to you like this. Kyle Kuzma would average 30, 15 and 10 if he played in the 60s/70s

Damian Lillard should not be on this list.

@mycitysucks8096

2 жыл бұрын

Either should Harden

@aaronwilliams4748

Жыл бұрын

Who would you switch him with

@DrProfessorWeed

Жыл бұрын

There aren't 75 players better than Lillard or Harden. There aren't 50 players better wtf?

@kidsneac8205

Жыл бұрын

Dwight howard

@godawgs123

Жыл бұрын

Dame passes the eye test but not the resume test yet like Gil and tmac

How is AD on there and D12 isnt

What shoes are JJ wearing? I like those...

@FuboSports

2 жыл бұрын

Trae Young 1 'ICEE'

@BigWillTheMill

2 жыл бұрын

@@FuboSports Thank you...I got to see if those come out in my size, they looked clean.

@Handysoccersc

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing