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@paristhalheimer

2 жыл бұрын

Thinking on failed guitar models, purhaps you would do a video on the 2008 PRS McCarty ll or the Fender Stratocaster Dlx Plus.

@adamdevin8877

2 жыл бұрын

Should be around $800

@paulwhite9173

Жыл бұрын

This guitar is in crappy condition! It looks like its been laying on the beach somewhere. All the hardware is rusty, and the top is completely unremarkable its an ugly piece of wood, with an ugly color sunburst.

@patrickmckay6621

Жыл бұрын

i don t think Gibson really sold that many lately in their shop, Maybe they just faked the numbers to rise the interest in the instrument.

@justintharp5652

Жыл бұрын

And you payed $10.000 for this one- is that correct 🧐?

I am a brazilian and I have to say that the name is correct. Only in a dream a brazilian would be able to buy one of those.

@modergav

2 жыл бұрын

MANO DO CEU AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHS

@modergav

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair tho it is almost impossible just to buy a Classic or even a studio with the current situation.

@stringlocker

2 жыл бұрын

You said Brazilian Would.🙂

@masterofreality230

2 жыл бұрын

I am in the US and even if I had the money, I would not pay that kind of cash, not even a fraction lol

@brayanlopes5222

2 жыл бұрын

@@masterofreality230 Consider yourself lucky. 13.000 is a "low price" for a STANDARD here. Not a custo shop. A simple les paul standard. This custom shop ones are abput 40.000

That sure looks like #43 on the back of the headstock, not #48.

@thenameless3271

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely #43

@buzzbomb67

2 жыл бұрын

For sure… 43 lol oops

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

LOL, I thought this was the Richard Petty Les Paul Tribute!

@billyc6678

2 жыл бұрын

He does correct himself later

@danielabilez3619

2 жыл бұрын

No.. No.. Its... a snow cone machine

For 13 g's, they could've included a case that actually fits the damn guitar.. It's infuriating to see foam spacers in there. 🤦

@Themaskplague

2 жыл бұрын

So true. How can they put them in a case that doesn’t even fit for that much money. Insulting really

@g.koch.

2 жыл бұрын

Do the people who spend 13k on them put them anyways out the case? 🤣

@mastachief97

2 жыл бұрын

Cusom shop guitars come with that foam insert to help protect the neck during shipping. Why they do it, I have no idea.

@shawnshipstad9281

2 жыл бұрын

You have that fucking right.

@jdssurf

Жыл бұрын

That’s for shipping geez guys come on

This is the perfect specimen of why Gibson needs to resume reasonable pricing for their inventory. It's also a great example of how purchasing a signature instead of just a guitar is a total waste. Slash himself probably told Gibson that they made a boo-boo with this one because of the price.

@cromBumny

2 жыл бұрын

The pricing is from the Henry J era..Era...all kinds of bad management. A boring guitar with a famous name is not worth 13k...unless you are collecting all the Slash Specials

@ericbgordon1575

2 жыл бұрын

Not a collector myself, @@cromBumny.

@gayrodeo

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but you get sunglasses and a trucker hat as well for $13K. Who could spend $13K on this guitar and not feel ripped off.

@andy_182

2 жыл бұрын

No. Reasonable price is subjective

@ericbgordon1575

2 жыл бұрын

There should be a $3,000-YSD cap on all professional-grade electric guitars, @@andy_182. That's my subjective take on what constitutes "reasonable".

The funny thing to me is that almost none of Slash's signature models are actually based on actual Les Pauls he's been associated with over the years.

@bradford_shaun_murray

2 жыл бұрын

Slash nee Saul

@formattable1

2 жыл бұрын

No, the funny thing is the les paul that he recorded destruction on and toured with was not a gibson at all

@user-do2ev2hr7h

2 жыл бұрын

@@formattable1 To be totally fair, at the time with Gibson at a low ebb he didn't exactly have an abundance of options in that regard. Many people today forget that Slash pretty much brought the Les Paul back from obscurity.

@robcobi

2 жыл бұрын

Um what do you think the AFD is? They've redone it repeatedly.

@danielwilkinson9685

2 жыл бұрын

It's meant to the guitar of Slashs dreams, so they broke into his house and woke him up. And asked him what guitar he was dreaming of.

A belt buckle with a high end guitar? That must be to help you relic the back.

You can buy a highly flamed PRS with a Braz board for $3k. Gibson was/is nuts.

@liamwagner9160

2 жыл бұрын

PRS is going to kill Fender and Gibson In time. They are expensive guitars but good lord….The unbelievable guitar you’d get for 13k from a Private Stock PRS… Not to mention them knocking it outside of the park with their silver sky.

@JR-to8sn

2 жыл бұрын

@@liamwagner9160 Na Fender and Gibson will always be around as they have their loyal following and the history behind them. Fender still sells more guitars that anyone I believe.

@incognitivedistortion8800

6 ай бұрын

@@liamwagner9160Leo Fender sold Fender. He owns Has music man now and G & L Legacy. I don’t think the Silver Sky PRS holds a candle to a standard American strat. PRS isn’t all that either .. If anything Yamaha is the future.. but it’s still is fender and Gibson.

@LisabonMusic

2 ай бұрын

yeah, but then you have a PRS and not a Gibson. I want a Gibson and not some lawyers guitar. And i am not alone with that opinion, thats also the reason why PRS will not dethrone Fender and Gibson. Guitarists are stubborn and irrational so Gibson can charge those prices. The price for the one in the video is nuts tho...

@davidledford3522

12 күн бұрын

Build your own it's not that hard 500 bucks will build you a high quality guitar

Stunning that they would try a stunt like that. Les Paul standard with a Brazilian board.

@eddiejr540

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!!!!

@metalmig

2 жыл бұрын

they wanted to fool people who belive in tonewood

@justinguitarcia

2 жыл бұрын

Its overpriced for sure but its not a les paul standard, in the modern sense, its a signature model r8 with a brazilian board. I think an r8 new is 5k, slap on 2k artist premium and whatever they want for the fretboard…. Limited run r9s with brazilian go for like 15k. I think its stupid, new brazilian rosewood isnt in any way meaningfully better than anything else

@andy_182

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinguitarcia y is it overpriced

@justinguitarcia

2 жыл бұрын

@@andy_182 subjectively i think its overpriced: as mentioned its essentially an r8 with a brazilian board which is worth half the asking, market imo. An artist premium intrinsically makes something overpriced,You agree to overpay for the artist representation. Its also objectively overpriced via the market that didnt buy them, thats why gibson was left with so many. Its just math

I sure as hell wouldn't pay an extra nine thousand dollars for a Brazilian Rosewood fretboard 😵‍💫🙄 Even if it was Korina wood AND Brazilian Rosewood, plus his signature...pass. Some dreamer on Reverb has one listed for $22,900. Can't wait to see what the Trogmeister lists his for. 😬

@Smart-Alex

2 жыл бұрын

$11.5k

@JokersWild70

2 жыл бұрын

@@Smart-Alex 11.5K....what? If you're talking his listing price, I'm betting it will be 19K - 22K

@the.communist

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately there are too many buorgeois, accomodated class in our society with plenty of €€

@johnsmith-ug5tp

2 жыл бұрын

90% of the fools/collectors that buy these are like degenerate gamblers rolling the dice. Oh yeah, most can't even play guitar. Who da hell would spend 10+k for a guitar? What, to play it in your basement? haha An actual guitar player could buy a great Les Paul, tele and a strat, nice amp and effects for the price of this one stupid slash LP.

@JokersWild70

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnsmith-ug5tp He sounds like he wants his personal collection of guitars to be the centerpiece of some museum.

Maybe at one point they'll realize that a bazillion Slash models aren't what players want. They are so stubborn with they boomerish stuff that there's no wonder why these didn't sell. Nothing special, overpriced, for collectors only, MEH

@Roddzilla71

2 жыл бұрын

"Boomerish"? I dont know any boomers that were into GnR, they are a GenX fanbased originally. They came in late to the 80s Era as well. I agree about the rest of your comment though.

@KunKFuPanda100

Жыл бұрын

I’d buy a left handed one if they made them

@chrismcbrias8577

Жыл бұрын

Over rated for sure slash

At 1:59, that is a 3 making it #43, not #48, so it's worth more than what you thought! Great review, Austin

I'll buy it...er...but not for 13k, I've got $500 laying around, we good?

I love GNR and I'm a fan of Slash. I do feel that there is a shameless amount of Slash-related gear out there, and maybe there's an exhaustion factor dragging down sales (in addition to the crazy high price). I really do like the look of this guitar though.

@MrAardvark61

2 жыл бұрын

Now they sell Slash Firebirds for about 17K

@johnfortuna4190

Жыл бұрын

It is a beautiful axe 🎸🙌🏻🤘🏼🤘🏼

@TheJotaroKujo

Жыл бұрын

Slash is pretty much all Gibson has and they are going to milk him as much as possible.

@johnfortuna4190

Жыл бұрын

@@TheJotaroKujo I agree that was a money grab and a shitty one at that 💯🤘🏼🤘🏼

NOT EVERY Les Paul needs to have a flame top. BTW , I bought a Slash 2022 this year and it has one of the most unique tops around and I paid the same as I did for my 60s Standard 2021. It is simply a killer guitar.

@thenameless3271

2 жыл бұрын

How do you think the two compare? I would guess that the 60s has a slimmer neck.

@sixslinger9951

2 жыл бұрын

@@thenameless3271 mainly the neck is the biggest difference. Slimmer on the 60s. Love both. Slash Gibson pups are just incredible sounding , it's a rock and roll machine! the 60s stock pups are more mellow but hella sustain. Both are flawless straight from Gibson.

@thenameless3271

2 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@cromBumny

2 жыл бұрын

No they don't, but for 13k it better be amazing

@alexanderbrown4250

2 жыл бұрын

I bought a 60s bourbon burst that is more flamed than the AAA bursts I see advertised on Sweetwater/MF. I have to wonder if someone in Nashville made a mistake

Those custom buckers sound fantastic! 99% of the old 70’s T Tops. I appreciate seeing less tooling marks on the fret board as well. To bad you have to pay Gibson a small fortune to get that.

@dublev78

2 жыл бұрын

I have an R8 with custom buckers. They are awesome.

@fongy200

2 жыл бұрын

Gibson are selling ill;egal Guitars. I live in the UK, i couldn't buy one. Brazillian RW is CITES legislated, to import or export this wood or even sell it is highly illegal. I'm sure Gibson have done their homework though or have a Palm they can grease to get what they want. They don't even fit the case's they come in, it's wadded out, bad, bad, $13,000.00 woowee!

Being partially made of Brazilian Rosewood made me think of CITES Regulations. But, I found this: "As of 2019, CITES regulations were lifted regarding rosewood instruments. Meaning that if you travel, buy, sell, or trade rosewood-made guitars, no longer are you required to have an article 10 permit. You can even move freely with guitars made of rosewood and exceed the previous weight limit without a permit."

@Trog

2 жыл бұрын

That doesn’t apply to Brazilian rosewood though. That is still restricted

@picksalot1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Trog Bummer. So, does that mean if you travel internationally with a Brazilian Rosewood guitar purchased in the US, and you "don't" have the appropriate paperwork, your guitar could be seized/impounded?

@raf5.132

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. That’s what it means. U would likely have a few days to travel, come back and gather the paper to get the guitar back from customs.

@danielpecore8722

2 жыл бұрын

so if i bring my guitar to customs they can identify the species of my guitars wood?

@matthewmendell7715

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielpecore8722 Right? How would they know unless you told them?

Great playing demo this time. My favorite Trogly playing demo was definitely with the Adam Jones Silverburst. That was a good one. You could tell he really put some work into it.

@Jonathan-L

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, good chops in this demo, helped by a good amp tone :)

Dont really understand where the 13k comes from. Spec wise its like a normal r8 with a vintage sunburst finish.

Brazilian board was a fairly common feature on PRS guitars to like 2009 (Artist Package, some limited runs). I own a 2007 PRS McCarty with Brazilian board and paid about $3000 new for it. Even adjusted for inflation, that one was massively cheaper than this.

@jlsage4059

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToTheMaxGaming1 In 1967, the Brazilian government outlawed the export of Brazilian rosewood logs and in 1992 the newly formed CITES convention declared Brazilian rosewood a threatened species. As a result, most nations throughout the world declared it illegal to harvest, export or import any Brazilian rosewood (including products produced from Brazilian rosewood) harvested after 1992. In 2008 the United States Congress expanded the Lacey Act to include wood products and required chain of custody for every step of ownership of Brazilian rosewood to insure compliance with U.S.A. and international regulations. Thus, prices soared and when manufacturers current stock on hand ran out…

@jlsage4059

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToTheMaxGaming1 nope. I didn’t. Sure Gibson’s cost more, nothing to see here. You pointed out your 2007 for 3k. That was prior to the 2009 expansion of the Lacey Act. What BR cost in 2007, is irrelevant. Absolutely Gibson prices are crazy…But legal BR is not inexpensive, or easy to come by after 2010, as you claimed. Not legally.

@jlsage4059

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToTheMaxGaming1 okay Puddin’

@jlsage4059

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToTheMaxGaming1 I read it the first time. Was right then…Here’s a tip, understand what you write. “Common”, is a common word. Look it up. Irrelevant is a little more difficult, but you can do it, Puddin. I know you can.

@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess

Жыл бұрын

@@jlsage4059 Somebody just needs to smuggle rosewood to America and grow them here, fuck the brazilian government and cites

Nice! I'd play that guitar out...plain top R8, Custom buckers and Brazilian board. Hell Yeah!

So, I am not the target market for this (love Slash, but am not a $15k guitar buyer), but I will say it definitely sounded iconic in all the right ways and it looked like you were having a lot of fun playing it . . .

The Slash thing is starting to be ridiculous. Signature guitars i never even saw him pictured with much less the model being synonymous with him. I don’t understand the marketing at all from either. Gibson looks fooling putting out a Slash double neck while Page, Felder and Lifeson are still alive. And Slash comes off as the biggest carpetbagger in history. And let’s cut the shit he’s an ok player that gets propelled up based on his image. Now he’s an ok player starting to look like a money grub. Suddenly ok starts to become shit

@fearview

2 жыл бұрын

Nahh .. i think it's OK because Gibson owed him so much - remember he single handedly carrying Gibson flag while everybody play with sharp pointy headstock guitars back in 80's. Nobody touched Gibson back then. If you were rock guitarist usually you got Ibanez or Jackson or even BC Rich. Seem like, in 80's , rockstars images allign with sharp pointy headstock guitar.

@LewisLivingLife

2 жыл бұрын

More than an ok player. Snakepit velvet etc. of course it’s someone who isn’t on his level talking shit.

@user-do2ev2hr7h

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but it can't be understated just how much he did to bring the Les Paul back into the spotlight in the mid 80's. (and frankly, Gibson isn't exactly getting their guitars into a lot of hot young acts these days, so they return to the well they know).

@masterofreality230

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-do2ev2hr7h I can not imagine why young starving artist are not lining up to pay $3k for crappy qc and a sub par instrument, I am baffled lol I own a lower end Les Paul, they are an American icon, I would like them to do better.

@user-do2ev2hr7h

2 жыл бұрын

@@masterofreality230 Sure, but I think a lot of it is more to do with interest than anything else. If musicians in hot, up and coming acts wanted to play Les Pauls, Gibson could surely find a way to find a way to get those guitars into their hands and onto their stages. Look at all the young artists Fender has scooped up over a variety of genres that are popular with the youth. That's what gets guitars seen and drives sales, like it or not. Gibson is increasingly becoming a brand exclusively for middle aged blues rock fans and retro hard rock acts, and that's not going to cut it.

Great review! I love how you go into the details everyone wants to hear about. Some reviews go so deep on tech spects that it gets dry. The case candy, the opinion on value and honesty, like suggesting that the cheaper ones should have maybe been stamped as such even though you are an owner of the lowered ones. It’s the stuff I like to hear about. I’m still not ever paying $10k on a guitar. I’m poor! Lol

Well thanks for documenting. But yeah crazy to ask that amount of money. Nothing about it is impressive, not even the brazilian rosewood fretboard

And aside that CITES thing, you really get nuts when you realize that you can get a very nice slab of rosewood (jacarandá for us down here) with almost every luthier for less than 100usd.

I recently bought the Epi Slash "Appetite for Destruction" Les Paul Special ll" from an ad on my local FB Marketplace, used. I scored the guitar, a Fender Mustang ll Vll (solid state) amp. gig bag, strap, a stack of guitar instruction books, all for $300. The seller had bought the entire setup for her teenage son, who decided that he wasn't all that interested in guitar. So mom bought the kid a keyboard, and reported that he took right off, and is now a natural at keys. I told her that I might hire him to play in my band someday! The Epi has some of the same appointments as this Gibby version, however the top of the Epi is flat, and finished in a yellow, "Tiger Maple" look. The pickups on my Epi version are awesome, though, it has become the guitar that's the most played in my entire collection.

The guitar is my perfect idea of a Les Paul. I like active wood of course. But this is really a gorgeous example to me. Is it worth $13k? Nah. Brazilian Rosewood aside...no guitar is really worth $13 k. I wouldnt touch it for $3K. Anything over a thousand is a waste of money to me. Unfortunately if a run of these through Epiphone were to happen they too would likely exceed that $1k price point making them too expensive for guys like me who love guitars but refuse to overspend for something that sonically is being achieved at $300. Still....this is a beautiful piece. I wonder if the aging might have a little to do with the fact they sat unsold and shipped back to Gibson for the last 4 years. Not all of the aging. Whatever...as plain as you say it is...there is really something special about these as I look at it on my .... Phone...😳

@kirkwilson6229

2 жыл бұрын

I'm completely with you on the price issue. There is simply no reason to pay thousands for a guitar.

@timmygeem398

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, anything over $1,000 (new) is a waste of money these days. For the same $13k, I could have 26 x $500 guitars and a lot more fun, and wouldn't have flithy pig needing a bath Slash's connection...

@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess

Жыл бұрын

My Epiphone LP that I got for $40 will sound just as good as this one with some mods and the right amp. There's no way this guitar is worth 13k

Super cool guitar its just beautiful love that color and kinda plain vibe sounds awesome through the Marshall but that's no surprise 👏🤘👍

Wow Trogly! Playing sounding better than usual. Great riffs 👍 thank you for the great demo!

@Hornswoop

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, someone's been practicing!

@bradford_shaun_murray

2 жыл бұрын

The Trogster!

Dam that sounds great!! I’d love to have those pickups!!!! What amp/setup were you playing through to get those incredible dirty sounds?

I actually wanted one of these pretty bad when they came out but 10k was out of my range. When they started dropping in price I got excited but they went back up before I ever found a good enough deal. Sounds great.

I like the plan top burst but I’m not paying $13,000 for a guitar 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

@thenameless3271

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't think there could ever be a guitar worth that price.

to be fair, it wasn't unsellable, they just asked a ridiculous amount for it. And then they still got more for it a few years later than they probably should have. So they still won, it sure didn't cost anywhere near $10,000 to make this.

@user-do2ev2hr7h

2 жыл бұрын

The new management especially won as it was a sunk cost on their books from the previous administration. Selling them for anything is like found money to them.

@masterofreality230

2 жыл бұрын

It does not cost anywhere near 1K to make it lol

@dr.cheeks3589

2 жыл бұрын

" they just asked a ridiculous amount for it" that's any Gibson guitar

@jcripp7974

2 жыл бұрын

It didnt cost $500 to make it. Probably less. Gibson still could make 59 Les Pauls exactly like they used to and sell them as their everyday Les Paul at bargain prices. What? They lost the instructions? No. They make them as some kind of extraodinary feat of guitar building and sell them at 5 figures. And put out an inferior product as their everyday model. Either make the guitar youre known for or go away. When will people learn that Gibson is into ripping off their customers with lies? 1959? They cant make a 60 year old design?? Bullshit. Fuck Gibson. Too many way better choices for way less dough. You buy a new Gibson youre a sap.

@user-do2ev2hr7h

2 жыл бұрын

@@jcripp7974 IDK about that. There is a fair amount of parts and labor that go into an all mahogany, carved (and often quilted) top, set-neck guitar. Les Pauls have always been expensive and sold as "top of the line" pro grade instruments. Also, since the latest product line revamp, the standard LP's have gotten much better IMHO.

Since the guitar has a unique serial number wouldn't that number match up with it being sold at a discount versus those specific numbers that were sold at regular retail? Are there counterfeits of these guitars? Thanks for this video you definitely tell me a lot. I just acquired a Les Paul junior model and I absolutely enjoy playing it.

I like that first lick you played. Sounded good enough to figure it out. I think you are getting better at these demos, keep it up!

@witchfindergeneralelectric8758

2 жыл бұрын

Dude, that first lick was Nighttrain by Guns N' Roses.

Alnico three pickup magnets? Lame...

These prices are really starting to get out of hand. I fortunately, have been blessed to have amassed just about everything I have ever wanted, music wise (I’ve worked very hard for my money). For the young, up and coming musician, it’s beginning to get impossible to acquire reasonably priced, quality equipment without going terribly in debt. Hell, just cables alone can break you.

When you first pulled it out of the case I thought it might have an ebony fretboard to give some sort of uniqueness to a very plain-looking guitar. The darkness stood out. I was wrong, but the Brazilian does look nice. Overall, my main impression of this guitar is one of boredom - similar to the feeling I get when I see a regular production Les Paul. Actually, a lot of them have more personality than this particular guitar. It did sound great though IMO, but how many of these actually get played? I assume that it’s strictly an investment for 95% of the buyers, but what do I know. Anyone have any insight?

Wooo-Whooo NGD for me! My Wife surprised me again!

@sgt.grinch3299

2 жыл бұрын

Good evening Brother HK.

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

@@CatBlackGuitars About a year ago I was struggling with finger picking on my Jumbo Martin. At that time I'd mentioned that a smaller Parlor guitar would better suit this type of playing. All on her own my Wife picked out a little Fender acoustic Parlor guitar for me. We live near Elderly's music in Lansing MI., so she had our Son go down there and pick out the best player. They all surprised me this morning with it! I love the small size while sitting around while relaxing and playing.

@sgt.grinch3299

2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic birthday present. Great move by the family.

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

@@CatBlackGuitars It really is. This is the second guitar she has surprised me with. I am just amazed that with all my constant blabbering of guitar specs she remembered mahogany back, spruce top! She is a keeper, the guitar is nice too!

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

@@lettuce_spray Thank You ICK.

This is the reason i hate gibson.I mean i understand the look is iconic and nothing really sounds like a gibson but the crazy prices for limited editions or even brand new guitars can t be justified. And on a lot of murphy lab models the aging job is so shit compared to fender or other brands. They get a big name like slash or adam jones and they put a crazy price, price wich you could get 8 guitars and get every variation of specs a guitar could have

@sixslinger9951

2 жыл бұрын

I bought my Slash '22 for $2700 a couple months ago. Best guitar I have owned in 40 years. Worth every penny!

Im so glad you covered this guitar, i've always wanted to play one of these, slash was such an inspiration to me starting playing guitar and something like this is d e f i n i t e l y, out of my range! Amazing review as always!

@mrSK83RB0Y94

2 жыл бұрын

I got the opportunity to play #97 a few weeks ago at the Gibson Garage. Truly the best sounding guitar I've ever played. Definitely not in my price range, but maybe one day if I win the lottery I'll get one second hand. For now, I'll just be forever searching for the magic of that guitar but for like a quarter of the price.

@sixslinger9951

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrSK83RB0Y94 the slash models in 2021/22 are just as good and I got mine for the same as a normal standard.

In the early 80s when I was still in my 20s, I visited my then-married sister and her husband in New Jersey near Philadelphia. My brother-in-law took me to Philly's Eighth Street Music, where I saw a gorgeous Fender Stratocaster Ultra. My brother-in-law offered to get someone to unlock the display case it was in, but I declined. I had no money, the axe was expensive, and I KNEW I would love it, but also that it would hurt like hell to leave it behind. Since I had no other choice, I didn't TOUCH it. That's about the way I feel about this GLP. The big difference is that I would almost certainly hate the neck on this axe! My favorite necks are shredder-thin. I have a Schecter C-1 Elite, an Ibanez EX370, an RG220B also from Ibanez and a Jackson JS22 Dinky DKA. All of these axes have thin necks and jumbo frets (extra jumbo frets on the Schecter), 3 of them have a 14-inch cylindrical (traditional) fretboard radius, and the Jackson has a conical (aka compound) radius. These are the kind of necks I like; with hands like mine, I don't enjoy very thick necks. That Slash GLP looks great to me, but I just won't like that neck -- especially well enough to justify paying the price for one.

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

I'm around your same age. For years I preferred the slimmer neck profiles. As I get older my left hand sometimes cramps up a bit from playing. I found the thicker neck profiles allow my hand to play in a more relaxed position, the larger profile just seems more comfortable for longer playing sessions. Don't get me wrong, I still have my favorite medium "C" Strat so I can play thumb over top style. I was just surprised by how the thicker neck helped my playing. Yeah, I wouldn't have opened the case of that Ultra either (looking out for yourself and side-stepping the potential pain of not taking that Ultra home with you).

@wammons007

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m not a huge fan on the luxe just do the burst in the neck definitely agree my hands are small so the 60 Nick profile is much better for me trying to get used to the larger neck though

@sixslinger9951

2 жыл бұрын

@@hkguitar1984 I have both neck profiles/ 50's and 60's....you are right about hand being more relaxed position with the thicker neck. The 60s is nice too. I have the best of both worlds.

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

@@sixslinger9951 Excellent, having both is the way to go.

Long and Mcquade here in Canada had a special edition Gibson Songwriter with Adirondack Spruce and Rosewood Back and Sides with about 500 in number and there's still some lying around after about 8-10 years later on their Site that people returned or they couldn't rid of. I tried one or two out and they're bad.

I'll be honest. This looks like one they used to have in the Sears catalog. 7

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, early '70s Montgomery Wards Burst!

I really like the looks of this model, always have. Very understated with the plain top, black knobs and uncovered pickups.

@robertp457

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't pay $13k for an understated guitar, though, unless it played so well I could justify the price.

@SubxZeroGamer

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it looks great. Looks just like a Les Paul classic you could buy for $1.5k lmao

@ryanfulldark2775

2 жыл бұрын

@@SubxZeroGamer Except it’s not a Classic. It’s an R8.

@SubxZeroGamer

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanfulldark2775 Same uncovered pickup and plain top look though. For 1/10th the price haha

@Tuck7326

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like a standard cheap finish to me.

I've been lurking for quite a while. Just decided to surface and mention that I really like your video's. I definitely appreciate your extensive knowledge of the gear that you review. I really appreciate that you don't take it all so seriously. Laughter can be a good thing! FWIW I'm a Gibson, Fender, Epiphone & Squier fan. Keep up the good job!! Bryan

for my backplate i have a small space between one corner of the plate and the wood. my tiny flathead fits inside of it, to pry the plate with no issues or cosmetic issues.

When is your giant Slash review happening?

2:01, you mean #43 (not #48)

@Ervin-1190

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, the COA also say #43 @7:00

man that sounds and looks beautiful. I have not been a fan of this guitar until you went thru it today. It really is a beauty. I almost picked up that green signed one the other day but I new I would have to flip it so we passed. maybe someday thanks Austin

Hey austin,long time viewer ,sometime,s commenter😁 just wondered you get to play all these guitars but is there one that you always reach for when you get some freetime to play? Or would rescue first incase of fire?

Honestly I just hate flame tops, they're almost always overdone in my opinion. I feel like this guitar would've faired better without the Slash connection, and as you said, done up as a '59.

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, there has to be just as much of a market for a Brazilian fingerboard Les Paul that doesn't have a Slash connection.

@jeffleecust

2 жыл бұрын

I would take 1 nicely ringed plain top over 2 flame/quilt tops any day.

@mr.smithgnrsmith7808

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@martyshwaartz971

2 жыл бұрын

Agree! Hate flame tops on the single-cut style guitars. PRS too have a tendency to just way over-do it for my liking. Always kind of liked the look of the 58s due the plain tops.

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

The plain tops just kind of scream "workhorse" or "serious business". All cool in their own way.

I can't believe someone would pay that for 80 dollars worth of wood and a couple hundred TOPS in hardware for 13K???? Unreal

@Jasonbova

2 жыл бұрын

I could see 1300

@Justin.Franks

2 жыл бұрын

True Brazilian rosewood trees have been illegal to cut down for a few decades now. What little amount each manufacturer has left on hand is it. Once they run out, it's gone. Forever. So it is priced with that in mind.

@glaucosouza1971

2 жыл бұрын

@@Justin.Franks only in theory. They are still harvested and cut down all over

7:40 Those foam pieces they put inside the case to make it fit better... would they mess up the nitro finish?

That green clump of case fuzz on the bridge gave me a rash.

They need to Slash the prices...😅

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

LOL Good One

@johndef5075

2 жыл бұрын

@@hkguitar1984 I was surprised no one beat me to it!😆

@markbaum9615

2 жыл бұрын

Gibson says......why slash the price when we can saul the price

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

@@markbaum9615 LOL

It's crazy. I was pissed off about having to pay 3 Grand for my Custom Shop AFD when they were brought out just over 10 yrs ago but now, when I look at the cost of newer CS built Gibsons I'm like 'wow, mine was pretty cheap in comparison'. I think the prices are mental & I'd never buy one now but if people are prepared to pay for them then you can't really blame Gibson for doing it.

@user-do2ev2hr7h

2 жыл бұрын

I don't necessarily think 3 grand is out of line for a truly pro grade instrument (though is out of my price range), but it's debatable whether most Gibsons qualify. You can get any number of great boutique builders to make you a truly custom instrument for that price range.

@klonklone7787

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-do2ev2hr7h it is for a guitar that is notorious for easy headstock breaks. Sorry, but the qc out of Gibson is horrible now. Not worth their prices when there are other companies selling Les Paul styled guitars for same quality at substantially lower prices.

@user-do2ev2hr7h

2 жыл бұрын

@@klonklone7787 Hence why I said "it's debatable whether Gibsons qualify". Personally, I do think the QC and range of offerings has improved at least somewhat under the new management though. If I was able to and going to spend that kind of money on a guitar I would get something else, but I do think that kind of price point has a place IF the quality is there.

@masterofreality230

2 жыл бұрын

You got a Custom Shop Gibson for 3K? Must have found a deal lol I dont know how Gibson survives these days.

@masterofreality230

2 жыл бұрын

@@klonklone7787 For the prices they charge, you should be able to use the guitar as a weapon and it not lose tune lol

Your tone is great. What amp/setup are you using?

What are those three grey things in the lower bout at the far right inside the case?

Does an overpriced guitar play better than a reasonably priced guitar of the same model?

@The_JustJoshing

2 жыл бұрын

Probably not

@eddiejr540

2 жыл бұрын

Apparently…with this guitar, you just pick it up and you can automatically play the entire GnR catalog…it’s amazing 😳

@thenameless3271

2 жыл бұрын

It's definitely subjective, normally you hit a point of diminishing returns. Any features past that point are usually cosmetic or pretty small. Whether or not those features are worth it, that's up to the buyer (and their wallet).

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

If you internalize hard enough I'm sure a person could convince themselves it does! Guitars are like people, sometimes there is no rhyme or reason why you like or dislike either. That sure is a lot of money. $13K would buy you a vintage Marshall AND a used R9!

@markbaum9615

2 жыл бұрын

No.....Sarge......put those pickups in a Harley Benton.....same tonal quality

I like it! Flashy posh guitars never really suited me, this one is most def my style.

Great video. It sounded great. What amp was that played through? Thanks

@JoeJones-fq6uv

6 ай бұрын

Played through a $45,000 Slash Marshall JCM800.

The best Slash LP signature is the first one, tobacco burst finish with the piëzo bridge

Nice guitar, but I can't see spending THAT kind of money on THAT!

13k and nothing looks cheaper than black open coil pickups with black rings.

@HappyHermitt

6 ай бұрын

I agree

hi thanks for a good show i am looking for a slash with Pickups: 2x Custom Burstbucker Alnico II double black is that the same ? thanks agian

I think I realize now why they may have done this guitar this way - if they added a flametop and flamey neck with lots of binding and such it would edge the price up towards $20 grand out of the box retail and it may have just been taking an already limited production item and making it even more limited as some guys might consider a 10 grand guitar but a 20 grand might be just too much. But yeah, the tones are spot on.

@jimbeam-ru1my

7 ай бұрын

"I think I realize now why they may have done this guitar this way" Because they know guitar players are stupid and buy guitars for the label alone so they saw no need to waste money on figured maple tops?

These "demo-shop" placements are Gibson's way of admitting that they were over-priced in the first place. It's the only way they could drop the price without losing the faith of the first-time-around buyers.

@blues4jesus

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta make back all that money Henry lost for Gibson..

Watch this be the million dollar guitar in 40 yrs. The only thing is a million dollars will probably fill your gas tank after all this inflation.

there is sub 7.5 lbs unchambered reissues as well, never understood using brazilian rosewood and still removing wood to put the inlays

Do they clear coat over the Signature?

7:30? You busy cooking out today Trogly?

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

Greetings Holstorr, Happy Saturday

Did you ever document the 2004 Slash custom with a built in piezo pickup? I've only played a handful of his guitars but that one was particularly nice.

@chocolatecookie8571

2 жыл бұрын

It is the only good Slash sig they brought out

Where do they source their current Rosewood from for USA Standards?

Total honesty here, having MADE guitars with Brazilian Rosewood fretboards, and even solid Brazilian Rosewood necks: It's over hyped. If that board were Indian Rosewood you'd never notice the difference unless LOOKING at the fingerboard is more important to you than any aspect relating to tone and playability. I do think some woods are better for fingerboards than others, but for the high price and built-in legal issues surround it, I don't bother with BRW. It offers no real benefits. My favorite, however, is definitely unquestionably African Blackwood. Too bad it's also a less common wood and it too is listed in the CITES treaty Appendix II.

I love that fretboard.

Honestly when they first came out I used to hate them, but then I started to slowly fall for them (maybe because I'm a huge Slash fan, maybe cause I'm Brazilian). I thought they were ugly, but I've went to see Slash on tour w Myles and Conspirators in the front row and ir looks amazing in person. Even though I love this guitar it would never be worth buying it here in Brazil, we can get custom boutique made Les Paul's here with brazilian rosewood for waaaaaaaaay cheaper down here. I guess the issue with brazilian rosewood is the importation/exportation, even though we can't freely go and use that it's not hard to legally find it here

@modergav

2 жыл бұрын

Alias se vc quer uma puta guitarra no estilo LP e tiver uns 6 conto pra pagar, ve a W custom guitars. As guitarras que eles fazem são INCRIVEIS

i am pretty certain that those pickups aint slash's signature series, because my friend owns an Anastasia les paul aka Gibson Les Paul Slash Standard AA and we opened the pickups and on the back both of the pickups they do had the icon similar to your wristband/hat

Good one Trogley. Great guitar but bad price "at least for the time". I am thinking very expensive indeed. But it is a good package. Nice interior on the case. Not sure I see this much but it does seem that the better guitars came with a case with a latch on the side with the hinges. Funny too though the poor shape of the case I suppose this is all OCD towards period perfection. I would not like it though that if a hinge gave way and without that latch the guitar flops on the ground Bam!

Great sounding guitar, good looking too. But not $13K worth.

The Brazilian Wax Job! 😀

It would never cross my mind to purchase a guitar with someone else’s signature on it, especially when most of these ‘signature’ guitars aren’t even spec’d to anything the celebrity guitarist even plays.

Awesome《☆》It's definitely got some good LesPaul tones👍✔I prefer Gibson pickups but Slash supposedly uses Seymour Duncan🖖😎🏈

The trucker hat is legit, if you look at pics of slash out in public he’s commonly seen with the trucker hat on backwards, the top hat is his stage piece 👍🏻 love your videos, keep ‘em coming

They put SLASH on any guitar and the price then goes up like at least 30%. Same guitar. The end.

@stringlocker

2 жыл бұрын

So what's the difference between the slash models just the paint.

Do plek'd frets make a difference in ur opinion?

It's ridiculous they would put a price tag like 13,000 on such a plain Jane with a lousy hat and gas station quality belt buckle. Ridiculous.

I'll give you $2,500.00 for it.

It sounds beautiful, but can’t see paying that price for it.

I wish there were more attention drawn to the bridge. What saddles are made of makes a very very big difference in tone . steel versus brass. But from what I can tell they look like they're made of steel coz the top of the saddles looks sharp instead flat like the old 59 brass saddles .

I love and have really enjoyed many of your very informative and never dull or over-invested vidz...I have one question. Do you play? I'd love a more than yes or no answer🥴😂

i Always though this was a great guitar the Problem was the crazy price

After 10 signature models it gets pretty boring. Personally I don't care if I ever see another slash guitar.

@romanp.4319

2 жыл бұрын

10? I am sure there are way more Slash models. And I owned 4 of them :D

@stringlocker

2 жыл бұрын

They are Les Paul's. All I'm saying is they shouldn't charge extra money just because his autograph is on there. I'm sure everybody agrees with that. Except maybe trogly

@stringlocker

2 жыл бұрын

I will never understand why people pay that much more for a different paint job. Underneath it is the same guitar basically.

@romanp.4319

2 жыл бұрын

@@stringlocker Well that might be true for guitars like the one in the video. But i completely disagree with that statement if you look at all those Slash signatures that have been available since the 90s.

@stringlocker

2 жыл бұрын

What part of my statement do you disagree with. Picking the number 10 was just random. I have no idea how many signature models there are and I don't care other than that what else do you disagree with

Looking forward to the Slash Gibson USA signature models vs. their Epiphone counterparts videos.

As much as I was surprisingly disappointed in the 86 blue u got I surprisingly loved the sound from this lp. Just shows what a range you get from them. Def should be a player not a collector piece imo. Sounds great...still too much $ in 2022 though

yayess Trogly time ya'll

Gibson better rethink there pricing or they’ll go the way of the 🦤 bird

@LimitKaswadam

2 жыл бұрын

I mean brazilian rosewood is like the most desire wood on freatboard and its really hard to obtain cuz its ''endangered species'' and they only made them cuz they had some lying around...

@stringlocker

2 жыл бұрын

Take a look at the American fenders. For what you're getting their prices are even more insane. A $5,000 Telecaster.

@pauln6803

2 жыл бұрын

@@LimitKaswadam It's not super rare, it's just available in limited quantities every now and then. The paperwork is a bitch too, as the timber for some of these endangered species needs to be traceable right back to the tree it was cut from! Basically, it's too much cost and hassle for anything other than a very limited run of guitars that can command an extra premium.

@pauln6803

2 жыл бұрын

@@stringlocker The US guitar industry is chasing the doctors and lawyers pockets because they can't sell enough guitars at a "lower" price as ordinary people's incomes have been falling in real terms for several decades. Add to that increased competition from smaller manufacturers that can more easily offer custom hardware and finish options and a general improvement in quality from eastern imports.

That green fuzzy on the bridge is driving me crazy!!!!

Lol... I own an upgraded Slash Epi that looks JUST like this... plays great and sounds awesome. Upgrades include pick ups, bridge, tuners. I am very happy with it and no, didn't pay 12k for it😁