Rick Nielsen has a 1959 Les Paul with stock double creme PAF pickups which is ridiculous! Previously owned by Geddy Lee.

@marslpv2333

2 жыл бұрын

I saw that too. . Nielson may have the coolest guitar collection of any rock star ever.

I can totally appreciate a guitar like this...where the owner just left it as is and played the heck out of it...no mods, no upgrades...just left alone...it was truly loved and truly played...just how Gibson intended it to be...absolutely fantastic!!!!!!

@davidtguitar

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

From personal experience I would say that the corroded plating is from an inferior quality in the plating from that period rather than the player having overly corrosive sweat. Why? I bought a 1977 LP Standard new and after only a few years the plating began to bubble and flake. Meanwhile I have owned and played a 1991 LP Standard for 30 years and the plating is all intact and smooth, although with a patina. The reason probably has something to do with the 1977 plating being chrome and the 1991 being nickel. And if you are going unscrew the switch tip to function properly you should probably insert a piece of plastic or rubber into the tip before you screw it on to keep it snug and prevent loss.

@fongy200

2 жыл бұрын

Great tip.

@TommySG1

2 жыл бұрын

You’re 100% correct, they were using this craptastic plating on lots of automotive parts as well before just changing to plastic, side view mirrors, antenna posts, headlight trim rings etc… I suppose Gibson’s hardware was getting the same finish and possibly the inferior metal as well usually referred to as ‘pot metal’. 🤙

That is a Brite sounding Les Paul. I could let that grow on me being as like I have said many times. I'm addicted to natural finishes.

@juanamigo

2 жыл бұрын

You sound like a very specific type of cat.

I think it's insane that you can get that kind of definition and picking articulation out of 30+ year-old pickups. As someone who usually has a Tele or acoustic in their hands, this guitar has the kind of clarity that I dream of coming from an HH setup.

The “custom made” placard is hideous

@jwv6985

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Reminds me of the name tag on a US Navy uniform. Nothing against the US Navy

@cjpcle

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Glad mine doesn't have one!

@DavidHBurkart

2 жыл бұрын

...while I 100% agree, it was a different era & different mindset. Think of everything from Buddy Holly's Custom Acoustic, SRV's Strat & others. Personalization and "Custom Made" features were front and center for the performer/owner. They were more prone to advertising what they had. Today, most of us wouldn't think of doing such things.

@scottmthw

2 жыл бұрын

@@DavidHBurkart I in part agree with what you are saying but there is a big difference. SRV and Holly added a personal touch to their guitars, which I have done and what musicians continue to do to this day. Conversely, the "custom" placard is an aesthetic added by the manufacture and not the artist. Anyways, it's just my taste and I am sure some people like it. Peace homeboy ✌

@chrisgentry7242

2 жыл бұрын

@@jwv6985 yeah I've seen a lot of those too. My dad served 20 years in the us navy. I those tags where kind of hideous.

It would be more tasteful if they inlaid or silk-screened "Custom Made" on headstock instead of screwing on a plastic piece. It just reminds me of name tag on some office door, or uniform on fast food worker.

It failed as a reissue, but it kicks ass as a Les Paul....

Funny Story. I've owned my Natural top 81 LP K.M. for 30 years. When I bought it, it was the most comfortable guitar I've ever played, though when I plugged into an amp it squealed like a banchee, so it didn't take long to replace the pups with a black DiMarzio PAF pro in the Rhythm position and a black Gibson 500t in the bridge. After watching this video recently I was curious to see if I had bought guitar with original T tops, so I after a bit of a search found my original creme open faced pickups in a box in a spare bedroom. What I discovered was rhythm pup was untouched (T's both pointing in same direction, though the bridge had been modified in that the T's we're pointing in opposite directions, someone took the single coil closest to the bridge and reversed it, making the T point down, not up. I'll never know why?? Though 30 yrs later mystery solved for the disappointing feed back it originally had. Can wait to correct and hear the original T Top sound

Try a rubber band between the screwdriver and the stripped out screw!

@saltpeter7429

2 жыл бұрын

I just tried this yesterday on a screw on the trusrod cover of a Hagstrom HiiN. It didnt work. Drives me everlovin crazy. Northern New Hampshire winter,I wanted to give the truss rod a tweak for relief because it feels like the neck has come In toward me. What Trogly called a "bananna" neck on one of these shows. I am wierd, once I think something is slightly wrong, I am bothered.

You can remove the screws pretty easily with the right extractors and or vice grips. Depending on which screw you want to remove.

@haywoodjablowme699

2 жыл бұрын

This guy's a trust fund baby. You think he knows what vice grips are?

@ALTDOK667

2 жыл бұрын

@@haywoodjablowme699 I think he knows what vise grips are.

@ikestoddard2458

2 жыл бұрын

@@ALTDOK667 he could also file a little slot in the screw and move it with a flat bladed screwdriver.

@ALTDOK667

2 жыл бұрын

@@ikestoddard2458 I would just use a small chunk of thin leather with a Philips head.

@dhaddad12

2 жыл бұрын

@@haywoodjablowme699 damn bro, salty much? You wanna talk about it?

What a Beauty!!!the "custom made" plaque is hideous.

A guitar should be setup before being reviewed, in my opinion. They setup should be no less routine than cleaning the fretboard. Setups can vary widely person to person and it is a shame that today you don't like a guitar because it might need a truss rod adjustment or has the action or bridge adjusted poorly. These are minor routine adjustments, not a flaw with this example. They can be setup perfectly the day they leave the factory, they are still going to need to be adjusted sooner or later. I basically do an adjustment every time I change my strings. Don't necessarily do everything every time, but I check the relief, height, and intonation and adjust as needed.

@walkerpendleton760

2 жыл бұрын

Really?

@pfg_pedals

2 жыл бұрын

@@walkerpendleton760 Absolutely. Giving a guitar, especially a used one, a less than favorable review because it isn't set up how you like it is doing yourself a disservice. Furthermore old strings that haven't been changed in a long time also hold back the guitars potential. Now a new guitar should come set up well, but even then the neck can shift due to climate changes during shipping and storage, requiring an adjustment. A twisted neck, maxed truss rod, headstock break, etc are serious issues, but having the action too low or too high or having too much relief in the neck should not be deal breakers so long as they can be resolved with a simple setup.

@HeelBJC

2 жыл бұрын

You take this about 20x too seriously, kid.

@pfg_pedals

2 жыл бұрын

@@HeelBJC nah, I could care less, you just missed the point, to provide some advice for anyone who actually plays their guitars. Don't lose out on the guitar you want because it needs a minor adjustment.

I had a tobacco one. Paid $700 for it in early 90's. It was player grade so I put flame veneer owner top and painted just the top. Put 50's and reissue parts on it. Was a cool guitar. Sold it and it wound up in England.

DiMarzio has a patent on a particular color of humbuckers!? That doesn't make any sense to me.

Is there a reason why the three piece neck and volute are undesirable aside from their association with the Norlin Era? My 70's Reissue custom is the best guitar I've ever owned and I'm happy for a guitar with a notoriously fragile headstock to have every last bit of added stability it can get.

@thenameless3271

2 жыл бұрын

It's mostly just that it's not traditional, some people also dislike the volute because it gets in the way of their playing technique. That's about it though. Play what you love 👍

@ileutur6863

2 жыл бұрын

Its collector bullshit, not traditional therefore baaad. Yet most of them wouldn't know the difference if they weren't told

Those tailpiece bushings can also be found in LP Artists and early 347's.

I have a cherry SB from the first part of the run of 1500. I bought it from a guy that had it stashed in a closet un-played for 20+ years. He bought it new and came with bill of sale. It looks like it may have had a little use prior to that but not much. It is completely stock and even has the two very small screws where the custom plate sat behind the stop tail. The plate was missing but the screws are still there, which from research, only the first batch had those. It is heavy as stink but the cream top HBs absolutely rock. All in all, I think it is a solid guitar. My not be historically correct but it screams as a rock machine.

Seems to me that that maple neck is what's making it so bright sounding. That could be a good thing if you use Fender style amps...not so much for Marshalls.

I have this very guitar, 1979, but Nashville-made. I love it; sustain for days.

guitars are made to be played not stored away only for show.

One of my dream guitars! It’s still an amazing guitar, regardless of what they tried to do!

I played and loved a Greyburst KM at Leo's music in Walnut Creek CA around 1979 Yeah, positive.

Once again, that is a picture of MUSICAL strings and things in Chatham Ontario…. It’s not part of the Strings and Things chain in the USA. But it is funny seeing my old music store hang out on your videos lol

I know you look down on the les paul tribute models but for documentation and for those of us who aren't interested in the higher end models it would be cool to see the similarities and differences.

Talk about weight - I picked up a 70's Les Paul Deluxe Pro with P-90s and maple neck. Love the guitar- but the weight came in at 12 lb 8 oz! Have another 70's vintage LP Deluxe with strange wiring - the selector switch is upside down and the volume/tone knobs are also upside down. On opening it up, the wiring is not long enough to install the switch in the normal position; also, the soldering looks clean and unaltered. A factory install fail by a newby?

I have a 77 or 78 Standard version.....I had to rebuild due to the corrosion and wear. I rebuilt mine to be as close to a late 50's spec as for materials of the hardware. I didn't get the original shaw pu's with the guitar though they were still around......it had DiMarzio blade type metal pu's in it as replacements....which was 80's period correct for the METAL ERA.....but I replaced those with BurstBuckers which I tuned. I look at pickups as 2 coils of copper and the slugs and screws have to be right as far as material plus a Alnico 4 magnet. I like a weaker magnet and ideally have less that 8K resistance. This one had the 300K Norlin era pots in it....so I ended up changing the whole wiring harness plus tone caps and pots to 50's correct specs with the exception of the cap values which are significantly less that a .022uf. I was lucky to find locally a set of period correct Grover tuners off another Gibson guitar. SO once finished and rebuilt, it dramatically changed the sound of the guitar to where I actually like it.....and it sounds very similar to the Bernie Marden BEAST. I got this guitar off an old buddy so I was familiar with it, and knew he was not totally satisfied with it considering he bought it new as old stock in the early 1980's. It really came alive after the changes but unfortunately my buddy had passed away suddenly and never got to play or hear it there after. The only thing I wish it had was a mahogany neck as opposed to the maple.....other than the neck tenon style......it would be more closer to the late 50's LP's......BUT mine as a Standard has the 3 piece top....BUT at a distance looks almost gold toppish due to the fade & yellowing.

@mikecamps7226

2 жыл бұрын

and....if you are in ohio.....i'm not far away in the Pittsburgh area.....if you'd want to play it side by side......though its NOT for sale hahaha

Plenty of Gibson dealers sold custom run Les Paul models with 50s features. Among them Veneman in metro DC including their mail order division, Music Emporium.

I don't know if your familiar with Larry Carlton but he has a sort of jazzy rock style which has been displayed in the 70s on Steely Dan albums not to mention elsewhere. Check it out you'll love it. I'd deck down the neck pickup and have a good setup down. I'll bet you appreciate this guitar more Thanks for educating us and my near 60 self on the KM.

Robert Baker's also has twangy, big tele thing going for it, I wonder if they went more for the 50s LP sound over features

We think we found one of these. A relative had it in the original case hidden away in the garage. Natual. Single owner but it looks like she took off the plaque. How much will that lower the value?

that corroded G string tuner is by far the funniest player wear Ive ever seen. Murphy Labs, take note.

The spit 1 dc jr looking guitar with the black pickgaurd and cream bridge pickup looked good

I think KM stands for “Kalamazoo Model” or perhaps “Kalamazoo Michigan ”... regardless it is a nice guitar to play

Love my daily dose of guitar information...Is the trademark only on double cream in the US? Pretty sure we can get double creams over here in England

To get the screws out, just put a broad rubber band between the screwdriver and the screw

Beautiful looking guitar natural age to gorgeous ..maybe action abit stiff cause of the old frets !?? Refret would be great .

Sounds a lot like my 96 LP after I changed to alnico 5 in the neck and took the cover off. Bright and punchy, in a short neck tenon.

T Tops are the best sounding PU I've heard. A guy had them on a 79 The Paul, it was filthy.

Love it when you go back to your roots with the Norlin stuff. Awesome

What does k.m. stand for?

@anthonyc1883

2 жыл бұрын

He states it in the video. It is thought to stand for Kalamazoo Michigan.

@gregolson5089

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyc1883 thanks

Would be interesting to know what the scale length is on this guitar

I do truly love this guitar. I love clear wood grain. I’m a smoker and that top would amber up reeeaal dark. It would have cigarette burns on the headstock and it would be MINE! Forever.

I like my Norlin Goldtop Deluxe just fine. A gigging workaround for the toggle problem is remove it. Its cosmetic, not functional.

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

I purchased my first Les Paul in 1977, it was a Deluxe. I've regretted selling/trading that guitar ever since.

Man I had one in hand several years ago... it sounded really good! but it was as heavy as sherman tank!

Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!

@nathanielvargas3863

2 жыл бұрын

Greg’s in the HOUSE!!!

@rondobondo6600

2 жыл бұрын

Oah yeah

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

Greg AND Nathaniel are in the House.

@gamereservebig6248

2 жыл бұрын

Greg's not MIA

@gamereservebig6248

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathanielvargas3863 Greg's not MIA

Everyone wants 50’s spec but the three piece maple neck does have to advantages. The low end is cleaner and tighter. I had a 1979 Les Paul Std. Goldtop, not a re-routed Deluxe. Had TWO actually that were from the same batch. Mine had a three piece Birdseye maple neck and my Dad’s a figured one piece mahogany back. Mine was light and sounded great!! Remember Zakk Wylde preferred Norlin spec’d maple neck Les Paul Customs. Tight. My Goldtop ate my friend’s 1958 Sunburst! A real one, no reissue. This was the early ‘80’s. KM’s were also known for not being made in Nashville. Kalamazoo. Gibson made Les Pauls in both places for a while in the late ‘70’s. My 1978 Les Paul Custom was Kalamazoo but both Goldtop Standards were from Nashville. At the end of the day good is good! Played lots of LOUSY fifties Gibsons and Fenders. Just more lousy seventies than there were fifties and sixties.

So bright for T tops... really 'woke up' with some gain, too.

Les Paul Custom made was built Les Paul and Patrick Murphy pre custom shop.

Love that 'Custom Made' plaque - I'd put one on my studio that I sanded down to a natural like this - it's an 88 model with 77 t-tops I got from ebay when u could get em under 100.00

Fingernail divoting has less to do with the amount of playing and more to do with a person's finger tip shape, length of fingernail trimming and playing technique. I have a rosewood board guitar that I played for years with no divots and I leant it to someone for a week who did not abuse it yet it had noticeable divots when returned.

Fingernails are abusive to fretboards, I started playing in 1967 and couldn't stand to have my fingernails hitting the neck. They've been short ever since. I carry clippers in my case if needed.

Maybe I missed it, but what did the "KM" stand for?

Lowering the bridge pickup would probably help

I love this. I have a natural Telecaster this would look cool next to.

Take a rubber band place the flat part over the screw and use the screw driver. Should work.

So, this one’s not on your website? Does that mean it’s not for sale anymore?

How can dimarzio own a "colour" trademark? Its beyond me

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

In the 1970s once the original Gibson dual cream ultra rare PAF pickups started getting noticed Dimarzio pickups started becoming popular (due to their dual cream bobbins). Dimarzio simply pulled a page from the Gibson legal play-book and patented the dual cream colored bobbins once their research indicated component colors were not a part of the original Gibson PAF patent. At that time if you wanted a dual cream pickup Dimarzio was the only company selling them (in the USA).

Easy fix Austin about the pickup screws. HNY

I love the natural finish, gives character.

Interesting in that my '81 Les Paul Standard has real MOP inlays.

I think it sounds really good. Neck pickup is pretty sweet. I have heard some Les Pauls over the years that sound muddy in neck pick up. This one sounds good.

Gibson should add brown to bobbin plastic and call it, Latte Creme. And patent it. That thing is gorgeous, too bad about the set-up FUBAR. As pitted as the bridge is, the saddle slots are probably too deep. Pop a good bridge on, top sling XL 10-52s', tune D standard, dial in some relief, I bet win. Ü

that G-string tuner being the only one in bad shape made me smile eheh... you can deffinitely tell this guitar has been played and appreciated!

Arrrgh. I kept refreshing my phone and when your video came up I missed it by 30 seconds

There's a patent for double cream bobbin covers?

You and Baker are my two favorite Guitar KZreadrs

You always make me smile. You should have really dug in to that a o b and hit it hard but still good

@hadtodoit4391

2 жыл бұрын

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I think your videos would benefit from being more in tune when playing and also spending some time to set them up optimally.

I think it is more than 2-piece top: look for a seam under the controls?

I love natural finish LP's the most, and don't know why gibson doesn't produce more

Trogly, just get an extractor bit or left hand drill bits

I have one. Who else has one? Mine is the cherry sunburst with the CM plaque. KM I've read means Kalamazoo made.

@steverish944

2 жыл бұрын

I have a natural 81 K.M. chainsaw case, no plaque. I bought it in 92 I have original pups, though I replaced them soon after purchase because of feedback issues

I'm not convinced a strap made that damage down there. Straps are made specifically not to damage, though it's not impossible. It's also possible that rings on his fingers from either stringing the cable through/around the strap or taking a strap on and off did it. But my official guess is that he never used a stand. He simply rested in a harder surface over and over again. Later when you notice there's no stand rash by the headstock i become more convinced

No such thing as a black KM. If that listing was a KM, it was a refin

What does KM stand for?

What no broken inlay?

Didn't Robert Johnson play a Kalamazoo? Would this Kalamazoo of Johnsons been made in Michigan or am i getting my wires crossed? My point is, his Guitar if made in Mitchigan after manufacture would have quite the journey to where Johnson grew up.

2002 was a Excellent year Etc…

Lovely looking. Sounds great👍♥️

The Ace Frehley Les Pauls had double cream pickups, and those weren't KMs.

'Real deal mother of pearl' ??? lol I laughed so hard on that one ;) Yeha mate - genuine toilet seat lol

36 seconds - damn, new PB

@hkguitar1984

2 жыл бұрын

Not bad at all! 🍪

I couldn’t see a plaque on Robert’s LP.

That plaque is an eyesore especially on a natural finish.

That is Swank.

I love guitars but there way too expensive..I love to nerd out but cmon jst cause its rare we gota put up with weird quirks like not being able to screw down the switch tip.. I'll stick to beat up cheapos.. but I would love ro have a old or good guitar so dnt get me wrong I'm jst jealouse.. I want a cool player so bad. But if I get one way would I bich about..love ya trogly ..not like yul see this

Beautiful example.

I have a cheap phone but they always sound trash until the distortion is engaged

That plaque.....yeah....no.

that plaque thing looks wack

If the action is stiff, it just isn’t set up right

lessee,,,,'79 i got married,,,still together. Thin Lizzy Black Rose ruled, First i knew of Gary Moore, otherwise LP's were sorta passe. Strat then V player. Woke me up !

Nice

For God's sake, please tune up these instruments. They're worth more than a car but sound like a Squier through a Line 6 in the demos

Another great episode, thanks

I thought of Robert right away as soon as I heard KM.

Bought one of these in '79 and traded a beat '59 LPTV Jr. and some cash for it. I learned to hate it rather quickly ... Don't buy LP's with a Maple neck ... HORRIBLE ! BTW, didn't this guitar come with a 'chainsaw' case ? Mine did.

Very black Betty sounding!

what is the black light revealing ?

@anthonyc1883

2 жыл бұрын

Typically, blacklight reveals if there is any repair/refinishing/touch-up to the original finish. It will glow a different color, quite apparent.