I would spend a couple hundred extra and get a Gibson Studio LP.

@pads-zr9ln

7 ай бұрын

Im always shocked the studio uses the same pickups as a custom, yes a custom would be nice but not worth it in my opinion

@boogerz

7 ай бұрын

I agree. I would probably pick up a used Gibson Les Paul Studio.

@MoeVanprick

7 ай бұрын

Many of us don't want I headstock to say Gibson that the reality of this

@user-ev9qw3om1g

5 ай бұрын

I would do the same and buy a Gibson.

@MoeVanprick

5 ай бұрын

@@user-ev9qw3om1g many of us would not we want the brand where it all began for Les Paul and that brand is epiphone not Gibson

A Les Paul Custom With a Koa Top Epiphone presents the Les Paul™ Custom in Koa. Featuring a mahogany neck with a SlimTaper™ profile, a mahogany body, ebony fretboard, a gorgeous natural koa top, and critically acclaimed ProBucker™ humbucker™ pickups, along with Les Paul Custom style gold hardware, Grover® Rotomatic® 18:1 tuners, CTS® potentiometers, a fully bound body, neck, and headstock, Graph Tech® nut, and pearloid inlays. Optional hardshell and EpiLite™ cases are available

I purchased the Epiphone greeny and stand by my decision 100%

Ive been looking at eastmans to be honest. I have gibsons, i have epiphones, something different with great quality .

well I will say this you can buy a way better schecter or esp ltd for the price of that greeny.

I’ve done both. I got my Gibson Les Paul Studio and SG special for around $1300. I also paid around that for my Epiphone Adam Jones Les Paul and Bonamassa ES-335. So I have two Epiphones and two Gibsons which cost about the same and I enjoy playing my higher end Epiphones as much as my lower end Gibsons. So I was okay with what I paid. They aren’t interchangeable but each has it’s strengths. The nitro finish and fret nibs feels nicer on the Gibsons but the Epiphones have unique specs and finishes that can’t be found on a lower end Gibson.

@Robdarian

7 ай бұрын

I did almost exactly what you did. I bought a brand new Gibson studio lp and an sg special them I grabbed an epiphone aj, but my second epi is a prophecy extura. All 4 are probably on par with each other but I prefered the neck and pickups on my epis so I got rid of my Gibsons. This guy is basing his recommendation off of resale value. I don't think you should be buying an instrument you want based off resale. But that's just me.

@davidkornblatt851

7 ай бұрын

It depends on what you want? But I think if you spend 3000 on a Gibson, there are many more options and brands that give you more benefits. However if you are worried about resale value unfortunately Gibson all the way. But that’s not why I play guitar!

I just bought a pre -owned 2022 Gibson Les Paul 60 standard faded mint pro set up all case candy unopened for the same price as the Epiphone Greeny, you can see it in the profile pic, bridge pick-up has been changed to a Seymour Duncan 59 original pickup in the case.

I will say this. I appreciate that there is a Les Paul at every price point from the epi Junior all the way up to a custom shop Murphy aged. Do you have $600? You can get a quality Les Paul. $2000? You can get a quality Les Paul.

On the team in Qingdao and their work: Scott: Currently we employ approximately 550 employees with 450 of those doing direct labor. As a team we have made some great strides that I am very proud of. Several bench marks have been reached including recently reaching our highest production month ever, an internal reduction of departmental reject’s and repairs to less than 5%, a reduction in backorders from over a year to one month and growing our production capabilities to include high end solid top acoustics and other key models such as the Casino, Les Paul Custom Signature models and others.

Epiphone still make entry level guitars that are affordable to most people. Expanding the range actually makes sense.

Should be interesting to see how these top level Epi's hold their value on the secondary market. I guess time will tell.

I've asked Santa Claus for both 😂

@benallmark9671

7 ай бұрын

No live today Scott ?

@scottbrower9052

7 ай бұрын

@benallmark9671 You're thinking about @scottbogfoot, Three Chord Dave's moderator. I'm "the other Scott" 🤣

@benallmark9671

7 ай бұрын

@@scottbrower9052 sorry bro

@scottbrower9052

7 ай бұрын

@@benallmark9671 🎸🤘

Hard to say. NEVER thought I would pay that much for an Epi, but I paid close to that on the new Joe B SG and I LOVE playing that guitar. I was hoping to not like it, but I love everything but the price

@rocktorrocks

7 ай бұрын

Same here. I got the Epiphone Bonamassa ES-335 and that gets as much play time as my Gibsons.

@boogerz

7 ай бұрын

That Joe B epi was tempting for me! For some reason the look really got to me but I managed to have self restraint 😂

@anthonythornhill8715

7 ай бұрын

@@boogerz if you get a chance to play one, don’t! It’s a rock machine! You will ending buying it

Who's to say what something is worth? Why cannot an Epiphone be any price? Is it because our minds are in closed little boxes?

@BenState

7 ай бұрын

value proposition

I just bought a Epiphone ES-339 Pelham Blue new on Reverb for 466.09 US. Can't wait till it gets here

Gibson's semi-hollowbodies like the ES-335 and ES-339 have tops and backs constructed of layers (either 3 or 4) of maple veneer. My understanding is that the veneers are assembled in successive cross-grain layers with the top layer having its grain longitudinal to the length of the guitar. The tops and backs are approximately 1/4" in thickness after layup.

I think spending $1500 on an Epi is without question too much money. I don’t care if it’s a signature or not. The Greeny thing might have been cool a year ago, now it’s redundant. Don’t get me wrong, I am a Green and Moore fan, not Kirk sorry. I understand that Epiphone business wise needs to fill in the space so to speak. How about Gibson making USA guitars starting at 1199 or so. As far as other options on spending $1500? More expensive I would go for an SG Standard with batwing guard for $1799, SG ‘61 Standard at $1999. You have now custom colors to choose from. Less price? You have the Tributes at $1299 USA made if you can still get one. The Studio line is nice and still USA made. I can go on, but no for Kirk and Gibson making money on that one. PS: just about a week ago I got my Gibson ‘61 Standard in Translucent Teal! The guitar has a fast rosewood fingerboard, excellent pickups, hard case. The guitar quacks, chimes, and growls like a real SG should. Love love love it!

I'm Look in at a $1300 LP Tribute!

That's funny...I've already seen a side by side comparison and the Ep is the better quality and best buy. Lol

neither, an used studio/tribute

I like the look of an LP with white/cream binding, so I bought an Epi "Inspired by Gibson" 1959 Limited Editiion LP from Sweetwater, and saved some money. Sweetwater also had one at 8.4 lbs.I owned a Gibson LP Studio but I sold it, I didn't like the specs nor the missing binding. Love my Epi LP!

I totally get the value statement. Epiphones just aren't rationally worth more than $1,000. Perhaps emotionally, they are, but not for me.

@MoeVanprick

7 ай бұрын

Classic 60s Era "Solid Guitar" The G-400 Deluxe PRO is inspired by the first generation of SGs made in the 1960s at the legendary Gibson and Epiphone factory in Kalamazoo, Michigan that produced the Les Paul and the Casino. The SG model was originally intended to replace the Les Paul, which temporarily went out of production from 1961-1968. The new G-400 Deluxe PRO is constructed using the same dimensions and build techniques as vintage SGs and features a AAA Flame Maple Veneer top with a Mahogany body and neck with a comfortable 1960's SlimTaper 'D' profile and a 24.75" scale length. The Pau Ferro fingerboard has single ply binding with pearloid Trapezoid inlays, 22 medium jumbo frets, a 12" radius, and an adjustable truss rod with a 'bell' cover.

@MoeVanprick

7 ай бұрын

Just posted the specs of the 2019 epiphone exclusive deluxe limited run Sg Pro G 400 bought one last year 2022 off the used market paid $650.00 for it and well worth it so yes modern Epiphones today hold value and go up in price..

Some great deals on gibson faded 50s les paul! Or Gibson or epiphone les paul classic for out of phase tone too.

I got my 2005 wine red Gibson LP studio for $550. Used at Guitar Center a few years ago. It’s not Wine red anymore it’s natural now, my wine red 2019 junior double cut was $799. New at guitar center. And my 2016 Gold top 50s tribute new at guitar center was $1000. With a hard shell case. That one might be up for sale soon, I haven’t got on with it really so much. I don’t know why, it’s just missing the mojo or something, not sure. Happy holidays y’all… 🎸🤓🌎☮️❤️🥓

Anybody know if there’s a livestream tonight or not ?

@fisterroboto1044

7 ай бұрын

yup there's a live stream at 23:00 hours (starting in half an hour on the the channel)

@benallmark9671

7 ай бұрын

@@fisterroboto1044 thanks but Rob said he canceled it. You sure ?

@benallmark9671

7 ай бұрын

@@fisterroboto1044 I see it’s up so looks like you’re right

I asked the same question? especially when a person can buy ten Chibsons for that money.

So bummed that Gibson has discontinued the Tribute. IMO it was the best value out there. My Tribute is my most played guitar.

Orrr, a $2000 Mexican mike McCready strat? And that one guitar should be called Lizzy " what the Hale" were they thinking

Im buying a studio for a few quid more

Interesting discussion! I recently watched a YT comparison between the Epi Greeny & the 3K Gibson Greeny and I think the Epi came out ahead in some important areas - long tenon, more authentic knobs etc. but not Nitro, obviously. Both have the same Gibson Greeny pick-ups. I'm not in the market for either but keen to try the Epi when it lands here in HK. I have tried Gibson Tribute & Studio guitars a few times and while quite nice I wasn't impressed but I did buy the Cherry Burst 1959 Epi / Gibson hybrid and also the Epi Cantrell Wino, which I felt very 'at home' on given the ebony fretboard and neck profile, both similar to my 1968 LP Custom. I plan to put Monty's Bethnal Greens in the Wino soonish. It's horses for courses between the more expensive Epis vs intro level Gibsons (or 2nd hand Standards if you are lucky). I look at Epis as great for modding to my own preferences frankly, bone nut, 50s wiring and some great pick-up options out there - Monty's, Lollar, Bare Knuckles and even the Gibson Greeny or 57 pick-ups. I don't consider re-sale value at all - I only buy guitars that I can happily work with. That said, if the economy picks up and I have a bit of spare change I would love to buy the Gibson 70s Deluxe re-issue (USD 3K) with mini-buckers (they sound great!) and/or a 2011 Long Island '59' Standard (USD 5K) which has been lurking in the main Gibson / Epi flagship here in HK. But before these two I would push the button on an Eastman 59/v and their Pomona Blonde Juliet - both exquisite guitars offering features Gibson doesn't in the sort of price range we are talking about. Whatever - appreciate the insight from your vid and there's no 'right answer', really - it just comes down to the player 🙂👍

@MoeVanprick

7 ай бұрын

The Pro buckers are $170.00 a set

@TonyStir

5 ай бұрын

600 is what I got my les paul modern for it was from zzonds

@MoeVanprick

5 ай бұрын

@@TonyStir it must have been on sale and recently discontinued

If I had an extra guitar-devoted $1,500 the Greeny thing certainly wouldn’t be it. Rather, I’d get a nicer amp. But I say this from the perspective of currently owning a 2023 SG Standard. The Greeny thing just doesn’t appeal to me. I’d be more in line to get one of the Prophecy Les Paul’s or SGs Epiphone puts out instead.

The Gibson

I'd buy the Marty Schwartz signature Epiphone and some fireflys

if an alien came down and was presented with an Epiphone and a Gibson it would probably not understand the massive price difference between 2 similar spec'd guitars. But time will tell if Epiphones in long term will retain value like a Gibson (unlikely). But bang for your buck, the Epiphone still wins....these limited run models not as much however.

Neither have stainless steel frets.

Why is this even a question? My local mom & pop guitar shop has BRAND NEW Gibson LP Studios for £1379, Specials for £1499, SG Standards for £1599! Jeez, it’s only another £600 for a Gibson LP Standard. Why would you even consider whacking down fifteen hundred quid for an Epiphone? 🙄

Neither buy 10 Harley Bentons!

Epiphone is one of the guitar manufacturers in the United States with more history and tradition, contemporary and direct rival of Gibson for decades, behind this century-old brand

The SG of the Future The SG Modern Figured from Epiphone's Inspired by Gibson™ Collection has the classic SG™ body profile made from mahogany and a maple cap with an AAA-figured maple veneer. Powered by a pair of Epiphone's ProBucker™ humbucker™ pickups with coil-splitting, phase switching, and a treble bleed circuit for a multitude of tones. It also features an ebony fingerboard, asymmetrical SlimTaper™ neck profile with contoured heel, world-class Grover® Locking Rotomatic® 18:1 ratio tuners, and a Graph Tech NuBone™ nut. Hardshell or EpiLite™ cases are sold separately... here's another Dave another high end Epiphone..and I have two of the limited run modern figured Sg now discontinued and on sale what's left of them too.. your forgetting it was Gibson Norlin in the first place that ruined epiphone quality..JC Curliegh Restored Epiphone back to where they should have always been..

@TonyStir

5 ай бұрын

I bought a Epiphone les paul modern does every thing I have a bourbon burst 4:43 had to put the pick guard on it looking for a poker chip it

Dave, did you hear about Epiphone being sued in China for lying about the type of wood they put in their guitars?

@MashaT22

7 ай бұрын

Where did you hear that? I’d love more info on that.

@williamtm1965

7 ай бұрын

@@MashaT22 MyLesPaul forum

@williamtm1965

7 ай бұрын

@@FrankBuyers...guitarista-iu3zg Really? If not true, why does Epiphone have legal disclaimer on their site that they reserve a right to substitute any component in their guitars?

@MoeVanprick

7 ай бұрын

​@@williamtm1965oh really just like you saying about the Chinese made BS.. not getting the fact epiphone Quindoe facility is fully American owned and operated Scott Lewis is the facility manager along with American and Asian luthiers.. also if not for Les Paul and Epiphone your Gibson Les Paul wouldn't even exist today a fact.. Gibson and it's fanboys BS ended long ago with their lawsuit failures..

@MoeVanprick

7 ай бұрын

​@@williamtm1965this is why Gibson stopped using the inspired by when it comes to the Les Paul solid body guitar because they didn't inspire Epiphone it's the other way around..get over it

I got a 2008 Gibson Les Paul studio a few months back and it feels like a toy compared to my 2020 fifties gold top Epiphone. Where I'll give it to the Gibson is the pickups and the neck it's just a little nicer but I put Seth lovers in the gold top so that kind of brings that up a touch

I love the Lizzy Sparkle Thingy - at $699 it would have crushed all....

Gibson

Buy a Chibson for 300 bux, throw another 200 into tuners and pickups, do a proper set up and boom!! Done. You're still a grand under the overpriced Gibson and Epi. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I just got my Chibson Goldtop the other day and did just that. Im telling you, it is now a pretty damn nice guitar and i didnt have to finance it.

Les paul classics are only $1800 last I checked .

$1500? Nope. Hesitating over an $800 Gretsch for $400 cuz I have toooo many guitars already....

1500,I,would get an esp e2 eclipse 😂.

Plot twist..$150 Harley Benton and go on vacation.

I think if you really want an "authentic" Les Paul then you really want a Gibson anyways and at the $1500 price point you really should just get a nice used one over an Epiphone. You'll be happier every time you see the name on the headstock. If you want a brand new "import" guitar that is Les Paul-ish then get yourself something like an LTD EC-1000. You're basically getting a Les Paul Custom/Axcess Custom with a choice of different boutique pickups too and for less than the Epi Or, if you want something with a U.S.A brand on the headstock at least, I'd look at the Fender Telecaster Custom FMT HH (terrible name!) which is basically a carved top SG in the shape of a Telecaster and come with a nice set of Seymour Duncans (early '03-'04 Korean examples had some pretty 'meh' Fender pickups) Honestly, having seen a few reviews of the Gibson Modern Lite now too, I reckon I'd take the EC-1000 over it as well for that style of guitar, it doesn't do enough for the price either

@MoeVanprick

7 ай бұрын

Umm you need to learn the history of epiphone.. reply about a authentic Les Paul with Gibson is ridiculous not even slightly close to being true..if no Les Paul and Epiphone you GIBSON Les Paul wouldn't even exist today that's a fact

@fisterroboto1044

7 ай бұрын

Yeah the LTD's are fantastic!

@danmc_2783

7 ай бұрын

@@MoeVanprick Is there even a coherent sentence there? I really know my guitar history quite well, thanks. Either way, Gibson has owned the Epiphone brand since the late 1950s and has produced "genuine" Les Paul models under that brand name for decades. So, did you actually have a point here?

@MoeVanprick

7 ай бұрын

@@danmc_2783 you don't know the history of epiphone or you wouldn't keep coming back with stupid untrue replies..I don't care who owns them and actually it's a huge corporation that owns them both..the Gibson BS and fanboys BS ended long ago with the miserable lawsuit failures.. Gibson is an absolute nothing compared to Epiphone and it's history..

@MoeVanprick

7 ай бұрын

@@danmc_2783 that's why Gibson stopped using the inspired by bs when it comes to the solid body guitar Les Paul because Gibson didn't inspire Epiphone it's the other way around..so no you don't know Epiphones history..

Or... hear me out... you could buy a 7-900 dollar Epiphone from sweetwater, pay for the plek pro setup, still spend less than 1500 dollars and have a Guitar that looks, sounds and plays as Good as any production line Gibson. Having owned several Gibsons between 2007 and 2023, my jerry cantrell epiphone custom with a plek pro setup plays just as good if not better, and i dont have yo worry about taking it out to play. No, its not a Gibson and it will never be the same, but im more than happy with it.

Eastman guitars are made in china, and they get very good reviews. So what is the issue of made in china? I have Fender strats from Japan, Korea, Mexico and USA. My favourite is MIM roadhouse strat. But it has fender on the headstock. If epiphone said gibson MIC would we be having this debate on what is good value? Or perception of brand value? There is a very good side by side comparison of gibson greeny v epiphone greeny and they soundef identical! But the 59 epiphone LP is still fantastic value and bb2 &bb3 are just as good pickups. If you want a quality LP get a discounted 59, if you cant afford a gibson lp greeny standard get the epiphone greeny👍

The $1500 Epiphones will pull up the price of the Epiphone LP Standards. Won’t be able to get them for $650 any more.

Epiphone for sure

Ok, so you all didn’t consider the “investment” argument that the cork sniffers like to go by. Pay $1500 for a Chinese Epiphone now, and it’ll be worth $250,000 in 30 years! They’re gonna sound better too! Also, in 30 years, some new crappy Gibson brand will be created and get made on some random third world Island. The cycle continues. . . . Here’s a challenge. Can anyone find a decent Gibson LP or 335 (or another model that generally costs more) that costs as much as a $699 Epiphone? Like in fantastic condition? Dave, that could be a fun game for us to play on a live stream or maybe you can make such a video. No Chibsons, that’s cheating (no pun intended)! Also, I ❤ the 2016-2017 HP’s. The cases are lead tanks from what I’ve heard, but the guitars are probably the best made in the 20-teens decade.

@MoeVanprick

7 ай бұрын

Quindoe is completely American owned and operated Scott Lewis is the facility manager along with American and Asian luthiers..

The answer is NO ! You shouldnt pay $1500 for either! 🤑

Just posted the specs of the now recently discontinued epiphone Les Paul koa..all high end specs..you people want a high end Epiphone for a budget price..NOT going to ever happen

A ridiculous looking "girls guitar" for 1.500 😂no one's heard of! Take my money now 😄

If people want a 'greenie' so bad, why don't they just buy a regular Epi LP Standard for a sane amount of money, and just flip the magnet in the neck pickup? Whether ya know it yet or not, any idiot can do it. I just did it, and if I can, anybody can. Oh wait, I know why: A regular Epi LP doesn't have pixie dust in the pickups, and the "real" Gibson headstock (cosmetic). Why do we keep letting them get away with all this gimmicky horseshit by paying way more for gimmicks that don't cost the company anything??

For $1500- buy neither.

You get judged by the guitar you are playing you like it or not, so buy the Gibson

What Gibson is doing is abandoning the $1500 buyer. Now a decent Gibson is 3 grand. They're ripping you off. Don't give them your money.

No guitar ever made beats a Les Paul.

Gibson > Any Epiphone

Glad i spent £1200 for my 1994 wine red Gibson les paul studio with ebony board and original hard shell case 3 months ago, these new high priced epis are getting out of hand and silly