"No one's going to let me do a Bond or a Bourne..." THANK GOD!

@DoubleO88

8 жыл бұрын

Because he's a pussy, a seniorita there's women that would direct a more badass Bourne film than that queen

@DMCK2000

8 жыл бұрын

lol!

@DMCK2000

8 жыл бұрын

same reaction! Although Paul Fieg did create one of my favorite shows, "Freaks and Geeks." So it really has surprised me that he has gone on the lower road, since he hasn't done that ever in his career.

@Super987987

8 жыл бұрын

Geeez, my heart skipped a few beats.

@CrystalGonzalezCrystalLights

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah he would so seriously fuck up Bond or Bourne if given the chance as he has done with Ghostbusters!

I can't believe he's blaming fans for making a movie they won't want to see (me included). It's like being in an art class critique and yelling at the teacher and classmates when met with any criticism.

@lugbzurg8987

8 жыл бұрын

When you make something that you want people to pay for, the last thing you should do is go out of your way to blame them, insult them, and anger them.

@evrettej

8 жыл бұрын

+Lugbzurg Took the words right out of my mouth! Well said!

@persona83

8 жыл бұрын

And it seems more ridiculous specially because the movie didn't premiere yet.

@Maniac1607

8 жыл бұрын

He sounds like a Feminist, and Feminists and other Leftists won't ever take responsibility for their own failures.

@victoriajohnson4420

8 жыл бұрын

+Purge187 Please don't lump Feminists with Leftists. I know that many people are both, but I am a political leftist who despises modern feminism and the whole PC culture.

no misogyny, however healthy anti-feminism and the neurotic identity politics will keep me an arms-lenght away from this movie!

I heard someone say this before and think about it everytime someone uses the words "strong and independent" to describe women. You're basically saying that they are adults. You literally just described a normal functioning adult and are giving women special credit for this.

@TKUltra971

8 жыл бұрын

I know right? LOL.

@Nielv13

8 жыл бұрын

i think its more of an an extra emphasis that they aren't weak and codependent (as they had been expected to be in history). your point is still funny, just sayin' tho :-)

@sinistar99

8 жыл бұрын

No they're giving movies credit for ALLOWING women to be depicted as such.

@tetsujin_144

8 жыл бұрын

In real life what you say is true. In the movies, however, it's sometimes a bit too common for female characters to serve primarily as love interests or "prizes" or for conveying the emotional weight of the story. It's the break from that recurring pattern that makes it noteworthy. In the context of movie characters it's not a matter of giving women special credit for being ordinary, functioning adults; rather it's recognizing the somewhat exceptional case where movies actually _portray_ women as functioning adults.

@cosmedix

8 жыл бұрын

you know the funny thing, is that most women tend to act more like damsel in distress instead of a strong masculine type female when faced with scary or perilous situations. That's a fact, so to me it's a little unrealistic when Hollywood decides to start making every female "strong and independent" which IMO most women in this country already are. They just don't have to wield a big gun, act masculine and tough. Instead they;re strong and independent while being feminine.

Honestly the biggest reason I think the new Ghostbusters will suck is because the type of "humor" is completely different from the original. The 1984 Ghostbusters is so dry and effortlessly witty. This new one comes across more like an Adam Sandler flick.

@sebastiangomezletelier1367

8 жыл бұрын

correct, it just seems like a generic and ill conceived comedy. The original was effortlessly funny while also excelling as a supernatural thriller

@umphreak9999

8 жыл бұрын

exactly, I've heard a lot of people making that point (which I agree with), that you could insert the Adam Sandler gang into this exact trailer and it would get a similar response

@PeterZeeke

8 жыл бұрын

the humour in the first gb is pretty overt, but the look of the film and bill murray offset that

@KymberleyBradshaw

8 жыл бұрын

Amen! That's exactly my problem with it. I don't care if a Ghostbusters reboot was all male, all female, a mix of both or were goddamn hermaphrodites - as long as it actually makes me smile and want to see it. These trailers do the exact opposite. You got it so right, this is SandlerBusters but without a Sandler in sight.

@johnnyskinwalker4095

8 жыл бұрын

Reason it was destined to fail with gals or guys is cause they don't make movies like these nowadays. It was predictable they would make the remake too jokey. Ghostbusters was made by a bunch of guys that just wanted to make a cool movie with things in it they would like regadless if it's funny or scary whatever. But right now a studio will say "either make it scarier or more funny!". GB was great cause it was organic, it was written naturally without agenda like made from a cereal box.

To quote Bill Murray: "This movie has no dick."

@justsimon4196

8 жыл бұрын

In both gender and creativity.

@0x777

8 жыл бұрын

Oh yes it does. His name is Feig. Feig, on the other hand, most likely doesn't.

@sinistar99

8 жыл бұрын

To actually quote Bill Murray "I'm IN this movie, I saw a test screening and its great."

@sinistar99

8 жыл бұрын

+Mike Perez True, and we know Bill Murray has no integrity and really really needs money right? same with Dan Ackroyd who tweeted it was better than the originals. I guess the creators of the originals who have seen the movie are not as reliable as KZread trailer reviewers who haven't seen the movie.

@GeorgeMonet

8 жыл бұрын

The likelihood that they'd bottle lightning twice and on a reboot is so miniscule that it is much more likely that Murray and Ackroyd are lying than telling the truth. And you can make that assumption even without knowing anything about the new movie. All you have to do is have an appreciation for the first movie to know that the likelihood that a reboot or sequel could be better than the first movie is tiny.

They're just not taking it seriously and using the licence as a cash grab and a political statement

Whatever you do...DO NOT GIVE THEM YOUR MONEY TO GO SEE THIS GARBAGE MOVIE!!! If you do, they have no reason to ever make good movies again.

@GrubbJunker

8 жыл бұрын

Get the original one, or play the Ghostbusters game, the only real sequel to the originals.

@yayaming176

8 жыл бұрын

yeah like BvS, that one sucks 💩💩💩💩

@LadyTylerBioRodriguez

8 жыл бұрын

YES! Just buy the game on Steam or whatever, and play through it. It will last longer, and you won't feel sudden regret if the movie sucks as bad as we think it will, which is likely.

@theonewhocannotsmell127

8 жыл бұрын

That one sucks Poop emoji, never heard that one before.... LOLZ

@jamesanthony8438

8 жыл бұрын

Frank, that's what I'm afraid people are going to wind up doing. Claim that they won't see it, then turn right around and go see it just so that they can bitch about it even more, or rent it online and stream it that way... like that somehow MAGICALLY won't count as going to see the movie (and forking over money to Sony for it). The only way to hurt them is to NOT SEE THE F*CKING MOVIE IN THE FIRST PLACE! Don't go to the theaters, don't stream it online, don't pick up the DVD or BlueRay when it's released. Make Sony f*uckin' scared of EVER doing this sort of sh*t, again. Hopefully, no studio will ever hire Feig again, either.

The whole James Rolfe thing put me over the edge with this movie. When I first saw the Ghostbusters trailer, it didn't look funny and I didn't really have any interest in seeing it. But then I started so see a blind defense of it. And then the SJW mob attacked James for simply saying that he's bias due to his nostalgia for the first movies and refuses to see this new one because it just looks like a cash grab. He made a completely reasonable video, and people lost their shit (calling him a sexist, blah, blah, blah.) I went from someone who was pretty indifferent to the new Ghostbusters to somebody who is hoping/dreaming/wishing that this bullshit fails. I have genuine hatred for this movie, sight unseen.

@wiseking856

8 жыл бұрын

That's what got me also; the "threatened" defense of this Walmart $5 bin movie.

@rickconsort2671

8 жыл бұрын

+WiseKing No, that's too kind. It should be in dollar stores and flea markets

@elunicocalvo

8 жыл бұрын

Harassing the nerd was the final straw. He has produced more and better entertainment than many of those corporate minions that attack him combined + I can watch his videos for free + he did nothing wrong and has a family to take care of. From now on I'll do my best to skip anything produced by Sony. Fucking corporate mobsters.

@Thomasmemoryscentral

8 жыл бұрын

Sony seems like a company right now best suited to stick to their gaming company because all this recent news of their troubled movie history is proving them to be unqualified at getting things right

@SuperWolsey

8 жыл бұрын

+rk2059342 Still horrified by Oswalt's participation in the craziness. Cook can fuck off to the local comic club where he belongs

Good stuff. I agree. Fans of Ghost Busters never wanted a remake; they wanted a continuation of the story. If this were a remake with dudes, it would probably be hated more. Sony, you failed trying to remake a perfect classic.

@WinterSoldierLTE

8 жыл бұрын

Personally I'd have been ok with a remake if it actually looked funny or interesting. This new one, remake or not, doesn't look either to me. I don't need an oscar worthy movie, just give me something that keeps me entertained and makes me laugh for a couple of hours.

@briansager3744

8 жыл бұрын

Honest question, how would you want this continuation to happen? Murray has said for 20 years that he wouldn't make another one. Surely you can't bring back the other guys without Murray right? Even lately, Ramis is obviously dead, and Ackroyd has lost his mind. So how would a continuation be more satisfying than a reboot of you weren't bringing back the original cast anyway?

@WinterSoldierLTE

8 жыл бұрын

Brian Sager Honestly I'm not one of those people that thinks the original is a high point of comedy. It's funny, absolutely it cracks me up, but there are other comedies I hold in higher regard ('Airplane!' is one of my personal favorites). I grew up w/ Ghostbusters like a lot of other people, had all the toys, watched the cartoon, all that. But when I was a kid I didn't even realize it was a comedy because the jokes were for an older audience. It wasn't until I picked it up on DVD about 8 years ago that I finally "got it" because I hadn't seen it since I was 10 and even then I actually enjoyed the 2nd one more. So with that said, I would be perfectly ok with a straight up re-boot *or* a continuation w/ the original cast members passing the torch as mentioned here. As I said, if it makes me laugh and keeps me entertained I would be happy and ok with it. But this re-boot just doesn't look funny at all. I don't keep up with SNL and haven't for years so I don't know the 2 from there or their style of comedy and I've never seen a Melissa McCarthy movie because all of her stuff looks un-funny to me, 'Tammy' especially which is one she wrote. May be a bit of a taboo mindset to have w/ 'Ghostbusters' in some peoples eyes, but that's where I stand with it.

@keitht24

8 жыл бұрын

Oh there's no question, it'd be hated way more if it were an all male cast. And an all male cast wouldn't be able to hide behind some bullshit sexism/misogyny claim.

@sinistar99

8 жыл бұрын

+WinterSoldier LTE Me too! I'd be excited to see a bad Ghostbusters movie... Hell I was excited to see a bad Ghostbusters movie. Ghostbusters 2.

I originally thought it was going to be one or 2 of the original GB daughters taking over the business. Not a re- boot. Clearly Sony went about this the wrong way.

I'm a woman, and I wouldn't sit through this remake if you paid me. The first movies had talented comedic actors that could pull off the hokiest line with a straight face, while the remake is dumbed down slapstick that insults the intelligence of its audience. If this director thinks he's going to make anyone cower in guilt over not shelling out their hard earned money to see this tripe - because misogyny! - he really has got another thing coming. Hollywood and the degenerates that populate it can stuff it.

It's funny that people are saying misogyny is to blame for the poor response to this film, when actually it's not all the women involved in making this film that are getting the criticism, it's the one man at the head of it.

@KymberleyBradshaw

8 жыл бұрын

An inconvenient truth.

@TDF9055

8 жыл бұрын

I find it somewhat ironic that this movie is supposedly trying to be as progressive as it can with its four female main characters, yet it's directed by a man.

@TheHman124

8 жыл бұрын

+TDF9055 well the gender of the director never indicates the quality of a movie, so saying a female director would do better is naive, besides, Paul Fieg isn't much of a man anyway

@TDF9055

8 жыл бұрын

I never said a female director would have been better. I't's just funny that this movie's trying way too hard to say "Look! We have an all-female cast! We're so progressive!", while at the same time, it has a male director. I find it funny is because of the people who say there needs to be more female directors. But yeah, even if a woman directed it, it would still be shite. (And yes, I do agree with your Paul Feig jab. What a child.)

@hrvallejoMKT

8 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the "Girl Power" photo they shared with the whole female part of the studio. It's kind of sad if they think they're actually promoting something positive while instead they're conflating this bigotry. Also, Paul Feig is married to a woman since 1994. His personal quirks, the way he dresses sometimes and his childish outbursts somewhat hint to him being somehow emasculated. Also, more relevant male cast is involved. Chris Hemsworth has had a more consistent career lately than any of these girls internationally and the studio still bribed the original GB (nearly sued Murray) to appear in cameos so they could cash in nostalgia.

This is an editorial, not the fourth Ghostbusters minidocumentary; that will be forthcoming in a week or two. Yes, the James Rolfe incident will be covered in it.

@lookinsidemybrain1920

8 жыл бұрын

Sweet, we still appreciate this impute, it explains perfectly why this movie is going to suck. These were the words I've been looking for when people ask "why are you so mad?" and I can't put my anger into words

@LawrenceW78

8 жыл бұрын

I can not wait for the fourth video in this series, and Ive been sharing all your videos and Ive made my own decision not to see this. If Paul Feig, Amy Pascal, and Sony think that insulting and bullying me is going to make me change my mind their sadly mistaken

@boredcollegestudent

8 жыл бұрын

Well said. Its too bad that Rolfe has experienced the backlash he has. By all accounts he's a great person and he presented his position logically. But logic sadly has lost its value to "feelings" in the era were everyone's opinions matter.

@Certifiable

8 жыл бұрын

Volume needs fixing mate. WAY too low. I needed to crank it up!

@NOMACABLE

8 жыл бұрын

just wish the coolaid drinkers could listen and not dismiss this.

I LOVE strong female leads in film, from Ripley in the ALIEN franchise to hell, even Bridget Jones in those films (they were funnier than the Ghostbusters reboot trailer, be fair)...I consider myself a strong supporter of women's rights and I respect women in tough roles...what I LOATHE is UNFUNNY SHIT pretending to be funny. THAT is the OBVIOUS reason why so many HATE these trailers. THEY. ARE. NOT. FUNNY.

@MurasakiBunny

8 жыл бұрын

I agree, though I've found a few SJWs still argue with me that our beloved favourite female leads just lead the misogyny since they are all expected to be strong, and good looking. Of course strong, name one lead character that doesn't develop (or already is) strength of some sort during their developmental arc. And when was the last time you saw an ugly character in a movie, male OR female (aside from The Elephant Man, but that was the point to it)? They come up with ANYTHING to try and validate their narrative against the lack of support for THEM. Heck I think the new Ghostbuster cast is alright, just that the script, plot, and directing is shite.

@charlestreibley9904

8 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I do not have a problem with women in the roles. It just a horrible script, and destroys the Greatness of the originals!

@clarity2199

8 жыл бұрын

You know what? Fuck this shit! As a woman i do not feel men should have to defend themselves in saying 'I am a strong supporter of women'. This is not about women, this is not about politics or sexism, this is about Sony being assholes and trying to use the 'woman card' as a lame attempt to defend themselves. I don't believe any guy goes out of his way to hate something simply because there's a woman involved. The very idea is ludicrous. This is not the dark ages, and I'm just sick to death at the politics at trying to use women for a political agenda. Fuck Hillary Clinton too for her shit and trying to use the woman card! And yeah, I will vote for Trump if just to spit in the face at these assholes!

If it wasn't broken, it never needed fix'n!! And man I was pissed at that Robo-Cop remake, they couldn't even get that right.

@EvilDead24

8 жыл бұрын

I agree, I grew up in the late 80s early 90s and I loved Robocop. That was always one of my favorite movies growing up. I still haven't seen the remake just because I consider it blasphemous

@MrDEMarq

8 жыл бұрын

Joshua Smith It is quite blasphemous...

@vaccumsealed

8 жыл бұрын

how many classic 80s remakes that we all grew up on have been rebooted and actually turned out pretty good? Robocop, as mentioned, was a flop. Karate Kid, well...excuse me as i go puke. Hmmm...Ghostbusters??? Well lets see how this trend has been going. Flop...flop...flop. Wow. I suppose the current producers of todays filming commission assume theyre gonna knock one out of the park some day as they remain hopeful with a little optimism, but thats just it; the great writers of yesteryear are retired cowboys whos left these little yuppies in charge of everything, and they obviously cant seem to get the job done, so...solution? Go round up some of them old cowboys in order to teach this crowd a thing or two about movie magic and the ingredients to make a great film like that of the 80s. Just u wait. They'll remake The Goonies, and what do u think you'll expect from that?

@MrDEMarq

8 жыл бұрын

You bring up a good point. Most of these kids have never even bothered to watch the classics as a resource.

@Dargonhuman

8 жыл бұрын

They were actually planning on making a sequel to the Goonies, but I haven't heard where that's at in a while, hopefully they dropped it.

Thank you for exposing the truth. At last the public can know what is going on.

@ShawnWeeded510

8 жыл бұрын

this won't stop feminists from complaining, news sites from claiming it as such, and Sony from using this as a chance to call haters of the film anti feminists.

@sirblast6863

8 жыл бұрын

it won't stop them, that was already establish in many instances. But what can you do spread the truth and at every turn undermine their narrative. Deny them income and make sure it hurt their wallets.

@ace0135

8 жыл бұрын

+Wyntar Wulf Well, duh. Anyone who does like the trailer usually only does because the cast is all female, and are giving it a free pass, and anyone who doesn't, must dislike it for the same reason. no middle ground. no middle exception. It's projection at it's finest

@PeterZeeke

8 жыл бұрын

I liked the second trailer, quite a bit. Agree about the lighting, but I dont think it was horror lighting in the 80's I think it was more drama

@gokux75

8 жыл бұрын

If anything good will come from this whole Ghostbusters thing it is that more people are getting exposed to the bullshit lies the media spreads to force a narrative.

You know it's very true how the original film had careful consideration for spiritualism. In fact the video game also had this intriguing lore of of an old cult that made a pact with zuul and these Mandala Nodes that you had to find and destroy. Sort of like these magic circles with witchcraft engraved in it. So it's baffling how we went from that to a bullied hotel worker that uses a McGuffin machine that "somehow" can summon ghosts. That's just really lazy writing.

@TwilightRogue15

8 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I'm a researcher, and a couple of the subjects that I study are Mythology and several subjects that fall under the very large umbrella of 'Spiritual Studies'. At the time of the first movie, his information may not have been perfect, but it did come from the actual research from the time. Some of the spectral spectacles were fudged for the sake of comedy or effect, but they were never completely made up, and that really adds to the feel of the movie. Even setting that aside, as you said, it was at least smartly written and made sense in the purview of the movie. Comparing that to the excuse shown in the trailer is like comparing George Orwell to Stephanie Meyer. One knows real suspense, horror, and storytelling, and the other kind of uses things associated with horror in the past.

@TwilightRogue15

8 жыл бұрын

***** Backup plan Ghostbusters movie? I haven't heard anything about that!

@TwilightRogue15

8 жыл бұрын

***** Fair enough. XD I'm a busy man. ;-;

@TwilightRogue15

8 жыл бұрын

cptrichall For me, it all comes down to staying close to actual spirituality or magick rules according to lore or, conversely, how the technology fits in with the rest of the series. Inherently, both can be used to the same effect, but it depends on how they are used. A nuclear accelerator strapped to someones back that can shoot a beam that can catch a ghost in the air and carry it into a trap and stick it into a holding facility is no more or less silly than a set of circles with witchcraft symbols or a machine that can call ghosts...at least, in the concept stage. What it comes down to is how its explained and used, and while the proton pack and the stones make sense in the ghostbusters lore, what we know of ghosts denies the idea of a manmade device that can summon them. Here are the questions: 1. How did the person in question learn about said ghosts? There were no ghostbusters or major ghost events before this, so this is a stretch. 2. How does the machine 'call' or 'pull' the ghosts from their own space? Alternatively, what about it makes ghosts already around in the region suddenly able to materialize and effect things more than before? 3. What would be the reason behind building such a device? Most of these can be more easily explained using magic, as lore already dictates several hundred 'spiritual hotspots' from differing mythologies that one can pull from. Its harder to explain technology, but easier to explain said technology if ghosts already existed in their current form to be used as test subjects. Ultimately, it feels like a Danny Phantom ripoff as opposed to Ghostbusters for now. It might be better explained in the movie, but since we know that nobody is taking this seriously combined with the problems that a reboot provides, it is unlikely that we can anticipate an acceptable response from the film to explain it.

@cptrichall

8 жыл бұрын

+Professor Persona have you seen the new movie to know that none of these questions you raise are answered?

Can't wait for the Redlettermedia alcohol fueled review!!! James Rolfe is a legend and said everything that needed to be said.

I this had been done as a sequel, with the female cast introduced as as daughters or proteges of the original cast or something, then I don't think I'd hate the concept so much. I really don't understand Hollywood's need to reboot everything.

@afluru3050

8 жыл бұрын

Because the new crop of writers can't come up with original scripts and ideas!

@FlyingTiger2099

5 жыл бұрын

brand management trumps creativity. get something out there with the trademarks in it to prove use or the trademarks lapse. No heart, no soul. On that basis having fat unfunny hacks in lead roles makes perfect sense.

Creed, Star Wars, and Jurassic World all made sequels instead of remakes, why couldn't Sony do the same

@libRteedude

8 жыл бұрын

Because those were good ideas, required actual effort, and were things that many people didn't mind seeing happen.

@johnnyskinwalker4095

8 жыл бұрын

She has been fired following the linked E-Mails scandal.

@killerbee2562

8 жыл бұрын

"fired" I'm sure she got a severance package bigger then all 6 of our yearly incomes combined.

@killerbee2562

8 жыл бұрын

www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sonys-amy-pascal-getting-fired-772688

@chujackam

8 жыл бұрын

Star Wars 8 was a remake. Lame, extremely unoriginal and disappointing. Even the prequels were better then SW8.

In terms of the the female cast. It's not the fact that it's a movie with a female lead, what people get pissed at is the fact that they're using a classic movie to make a political statement and ruining the franchise.

@Thomasmemoryscentral

8 жыл бұрын

If we're talking about issues of the female cast in the movie, my experience with other's reactions and comments of them are more the fact they wanted better female choices like Poher, Fey and Rudolph instead of the 4 we're presented with.

@jmh1189

8 жыл бұрын

I personally don't mind the ones they picked. For me, i feel like i'm about to meet an old childhood friend only to find out that the only reason for the visit is to ask if i wanted to become a Jehovah's witness.

@Thomasmemoryscentral

8 жыл бұрын

jmh1189 Just felt like pointing that out. Really, more people would have accepted a female cast but they would have wanted different selections than the final 4 Sony put here.

@jmh1189

8 жыл бұрын

I agree, just my opinion.

@Babidi111

8 жыл бұрын

heh, thats a really good way to put it.

Want a Ghostbusters with an all female lead cast? Then do it as a continuation of the old stories, not a 'reboot' from the beginning with a crap script and shitty dialogue.

@luciasfox

8 жыл бұрын

Heh. I said that before I even got halfway through. Apparently and unsurprisingly, it isn't that offbeat a suggestion.

@sinistar99

8 жыл бұрын

They could have made it a sequel, they could have made some perfect ghosts that don't glow too much or too little somehow... but people would find other things to bitch about.

@luciasfox

8 жыл бұрын

That's true enough of any endeavor, but when something is nothing BUT shite, well, what is there to discuss other then why it is? I'd have LOVED a Ghostbusters sequel where the guys were passing the torch to the ladies. Something that was truer to the original in feel and story. But this...? Hell, no.

@sinistar99

8 жыл бұрын

It seems like too much time has gone by and too much dumb crap has happened in Ghostbusters 2 particularly to make any kind of continuity more difficult than it's worth. Once a major attack on NYC happens and the whole world has undeniable evidence that we could be under attack by supernatural god / demons at any time... Our culture, science, religion, everything would be different. Proton packs might be consumer products and Ghostbusters may be as common as exterminators now... Ghost rights advocates would pop up, Apple would make an iGhost, the ghost powered phone... There would be an agency of homeland paranormal protection or something... There just wouldn't he room for an actual Ghostbusters like story where some outcast misfits of science get together and stop something no one else even officially believes in.. which is what made Ghostbusters ghostbusters. Ironically to be true to the feeling of the first movie you would almost HAVE to abandon it. I mean you *could* do it, but is it worth it to spend half the movie

Seeing the article photo of Paul Feig at 6:29, it's hard to believe that this man is a heterosexual. He may be married to a woman, but I'm betting that she's a beard for him.

@IM-bq7ep

8 жыл бұрын

He very well can be a straight guy, he was raised by his mother because his dad was always away working. Didn't have a male role model, that's why instead of "taking it like a man" about the criticism his film is getting he is emulating the way his mother (women) would most likely handle criticism "those mean boys are arsholes" this is a man that "worships" at the alter of women.

@DoubleO88

8 жыл бұрын

HOLY SHIT HE'S STRAIGHT!!? I was sure he was gay?

@phoenixashes1026

8 жыл бұрын

Same here lol

Please note how The Force Awakens (2015) executed the passing-of-the-torch-to-a-new-generation theme with its own "soft reboot." That's how you reboot a franchise, folks!

@Bloggerboy1000

8 жыл бұрын

Agreed and we still have Luke in Episode 8.

@CMontgomeryBurns09

8 жыл бұрын

... OR you could do the Mad Max methodology and make your franchise into more of an anthology series, where each sequel is more of its own "tall tale" or unique standalone. One or the other!

@Corrderio

8 жыл бұрын

And they brought back the older cast members and had them reprise their roles. Unlike this abomination that is using the original cast as cameos and not the actual ghostbusters.

@CMontgomeryBurns09

8 жыл бұрын

NO.

@treystephens4490

8 жыл бұрын

Yes it is horrible. They murdered the original characters and their sacrifices and victories.

I've seen multiple feminists saying that they don't like the all female cast, and find it patronizing. It's so disingenuous that Fieg and others have characterized the public response as misogynistic.

"A stunning lack of understanding on what made the original move so great." You hit the nail on the head. :-)

Harold Ramis has only been gone a couple of years. I'm a believer in moving on but, it's pretty sad that they made this movie so soon after that with such little respect for the original team

They really should've just done an adaption of Extreme Ghostbusters.

@BloodoperaBlackvomit

8 жыл бұрын

That would have been better and would show the feminazi's that there already IS a female ghostbuster and nobody batted an eye when that happend.

@snake56

8 жыл бұрын

I agree, it could've been a real "progressive" Ghostbusters.

@marcguerra1854

8 жыл бұрын

That idea would've made more sense. If not make a third movie based on the extreme Ghostbusters, they could've based it in the book Ghostbusters: The Return. That book was actually pretty good

@jameskeanu8608

8 жыл бұрын

It would have been so much more fun and its what we all wanted

@orinanime

8 жыл бұрын

+bigevilworldwide1 I'm gonna guess ... the rest of the fandom that doesn't share your opinion.

How stupid do you have to be to believe it will be good business practice to blame your customers for your failures. It will only result in lack of sales. You should have found out who is the best target audience and tried to please them. But chances are that movie might be just ok, not terrible but not good.

@Thomasmemoryscentral

8 жыл бұрын

Capcom did that I believe in 2010 by blaming fans that not being invested enough halted them from making Megaman Legends 3 which is bullcrap because fans were motivated to devote a bunch of their time to make designs and pitch ideas for the project. Capcom does seem to be trying in recent years to be better though.

@AmazingKevinWClark

8 жыл бұрын

***** Yeah I heard about that. As if lying out your ass about the customers to the customers is going to convince the customers that they are the problem. God they are some major stupid arrogant business people out there.

@Thomasmemoryscentral

8 жыл бұрын

Kevin W. Clark Well I think Capcom from some videos is making an attempt to improve themselves from mistakes like that and unlike Feig and Sony, they didn't resort to F Bombs and calling the fans buttheads even when they made that mistake.

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

8 жыл бұрын

This film really doesn't have a target audience, I honestly don't know who they're trying to appeal to. Fans of the original won't see it, SJW's think it's racist, I've seen some feminist call the film 'pandering' and Paul Feig's comment on all sci-fi fans and geeks has pretty much just alienated like 70% of the audience. Who's left to see it now?

@Denji2006

8 жыл бұрын

Corporations have been doing that a lot lately. Instead of "please buy our stuff", it's "you should be thankful and kiss our boots to be privileged to buy our stuff".

Re: the attacks on James Rolfe (AVGN) from blind studio loyalistsb and outsiders who have too much time on their hands- Its kinda hilarious and scary that those who blindly defended last year's Fant4stic before the review embargos were lifted (& moreso during production) came off as the adults in that matter compared to this nightmare of a cash grab. Even Newsarama ain't doing a "Please give Ghostbusters '16 a Chance!" articles after that site's embarrassing groveling with the aforementioned Trank Wreck. For real, the Trank Wreck defenders were more adult and civil than those blindly defending this movie. Let this sink in.....

@TKUltra971

8 жыл бұрын

they are paid to say what they are told to say. They knew Fantastic 4 was a flop just like they know Ghostbusters is going to bomb like Hiroshima. They are PR work and writers in the pocket of companies.

@SuperWolsey

8 жыл бұрын

crazybongo5 in the case of this film, it's Nagasaki; Fant4stic was Hiroshima

@augustwest5356

8 жыл бұрын

+crazybongo5 who is "they"??? are they the same "they" that set up 9/11 and faked the moon landing? the same "they" that have the cure for cancer but wont share and are controlling our minds through subliminal messages? "they" sure do have alot of free time on their hands...

@SuperWolsey

8 жыл бұрын

+August West Studio plants and faceless loyalists

PC always bombs at the box office.

And the nail in the coffin against any possible claim that the new ghostbusters is meant to be scary: The remake is in a universe where people take selfies with ghosts. That's how afraid they are.

YES, Absolutely YES! This is exactly the reason that the new film looks terrible, it's treating it like a parody of the original and not even taking into account that when they were dealing with the situation in the first film, they took it seriously and acted like it was an actual apocalyptic threat and there was little to no slapstick. I am honestly surprised that Dan Akroyd agreed to do a cameo in a film that doesn't even do it's research into the paranormal since he's an expert in the occult.

@snake56

8 жыл бұрын

I remember a leaked Sony email where a person was saying that they were ready to do everything in their power to force Bill Murray to accept a cameo in the movie, so I guess they did the same with Aykroyd.

@PowerGlove79

8 жыл бұрын

***** Another one of MANY reasons that Amy Pascal should have been fired a LONG time ago

@gelmir7322

8 жыл бұрын

i believe Akroyd really wanted to do a third Ghostbuster movie and was pretty much active in its creation from the very start (unlike Murray). And in his passion for the franchise, he regressed into a point of "beggars cant choosers", which practically turns him into a lap dog of Amy Pascal and Sony

@Mentski

8 жыл бұрын

That email was dated November 2013, before Ramis' death when Ghostbusters III was still under Reitman's control. It pertains to seeking legal action to get Murray into GBIII (As we all know, he was the primary reason that movie was never made.) The first time Paul Feig pitches his reboot in an email is a year after. Some people need to read email headers, yo.

@tigerbread78

8 жыл бұрын

+Chance Sauley Wait, how can you sue someone if they don't appear in a film?

Your channel gets such excellent info. Keep up the great work and thanks.

@MidnightsEdge

8 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy our content, will do our best to keep it up!

I really like how this was put together. Exceptional job!

@MidnightsEdge

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you liked it!

@destruction42k

8 жыл бұрын

I have sat down and watched the videos on the Chanel for like 6 hours today! I love what your chanel is doing keep it up!

@joshnullentry4580

8 жыл бұрын

eh, both men and women can bust ghosts, nothing wrong with that. :) They had a female ghost busters and a guy in a wheel chair in the Extreme ghost busters, and that was pretty fun.

The producers want it to be The Avengers, the writers want it to be Bridesmaids 2, the special effects crew think they're still doing the Goosebumps movie, and the director can't decide if he wants the fans to call it Ghostbusters 3 or "The REAL Ghostbusters".

"...Feig still treats it like his usual subversive parody movies, giving his Ghostbusters the exact same treatment as Spy." Sounds like exactly what Josh Trank did with Fant4stick. Rather than give us an actual Fantastic Four move Trank wanted to make Chronicle 2. Who cares about source material, it's all about my vision!

You spoke my mind! Here’s my take on the whole “Ghostbusters 2016” fiasco. It has been nearly thirty years since the second movie was made and fans have had to deal with broken promises and false hopes of their being a return of the original caste. After the death of Harold Ramis, this false hope is finally laid to rest but then less than a year later Hollywood jumps at the opportunity to throw together a movie, which seems irrelevant to the original film and pointless to those that have had their hearts set for Ghostbusters 3. Although there is still much confusion regarding whether this is a “reboot” or a “remake,” in the end it does not matter to fans because as a whole, the film seems to almost completely ignore the events of the previous films. The preview does not do any favors in that it shows the new caste redoing original scenes from the movie which, whether Feig admits it or not, places it in the “remake” category. The fact the director claims that the appearances of the original cast members are ‘cameos’ leads us to believe they will not be reprising their original characters and will only have small roles in the movie. Whether or not it was right or wrong for Feig to have gender swapped the roles, it was obvious from the start this would do the movie no favors. From the beginning, the media and Feig constantly portrayed this decision as being motivated by a desire to make a political statement and further the cause of feminism. I think Feig and the media strongly over emphasized the movie as being the Ghostbusters with the ALL FEMALE CASTE’ rather than simply focusing on humor, the storyline, and chemistry of the actresses so the public incidentally interpreted this as a disrespectful attempt to use the beloved ‘Ghostbusters’ franchise as a vehicle to further the political views of Feig over pleasing the fandom. Although most supporters of the film blame sexism as being the sole reason for the heat this movie is receiving, I personally disagree. The new Star Wars for the first time placed a female as the lead character and it has, for the most part, been universally embraced and praised by fans. However, if the new Star Wars had instead been marketed as a remake and completely ignore earlier events of the previous movies as well as the original characters I have no doubt it would be receiving the same kind of heat as well. Instead, they took the reasonable and respectful route and marketed it as a “sequel” and brought back the original characters to help support the younger caste. Rather than the focus being laid on Star Wars finally getting a female lead, it was over where the story would pick up from episode 6? What had become of the original caste? Who are the villains? What roles will the new caste serve? Instead all we get with the new ghostbusters is IT HAS AN ALL FEMALE CASTE. A FEMALE CASTE! The original caste will be making cameos. DID WE MENTION IT HAS AN ALL FEMALE CASTE? In the end, I see this incident as a case of disconnect between the director and fans with the ultimate fault lying with Paul Feig’s poor decisions in marketing, writing, and failure to relate to the franchise's fandom. Nothing more and nothing less. His insulting comments toward the fan base didn't help ei

You hit the nail right on the head when you mentioned the colors. It was the first thing I noticed while watching the trailer that just made it feel wrong. The atmosphere of the original was spectacular. My favorite scene is when Winston and Ray are driving across the bridge talking about the end of the world. It still sends a slight chill down my spine.

Yes! This helps clarify something: the problem isn't just that the writing is terrible, the actresses are mugging and shucking and jiving their way through their parts, and the jokes fall flat -- it's that the people behind this film think Ghostbusters is a comedy first and foremost. No, it's a horror movie into which funny people have wandered! And even then they're funny people who know when to stop cracking wise and start reacting to serious threats AS serious threats. It's the difference between Oscar Wilde and the Farrely Brothers, between Margaret Atwood and Chuck Tingle.

J.J. Abrams and Michael Bay have to deal with the crazyness of Fandom at constant basis because of their works in the Star Trek, TMNT, TFs and SW VIII constantly, and they tent to take with more maturity that anyone involve in this mess has.

@shenyongo

8 жыл бұрын

Michael Bay still acts as a douche bag, or rather hides behind "we are being "different"" or "it's silly so it's ok for it to suck" pretenses. Where as JJ Abrams has talent.

@AROBASPARK

8 жыл бұрын

true, but is weird - cause in the case of Bay, he doesn't do Twitter meltdowns with the fan, has he. And he Gets a fair share of hate.

@shenyongo

8 жыл бұрын

AROBASPARK The thing is I think certain movie goers and certain media outlets do that for him, in pushing for the movie at least.

@AROBASPARK

8 жыл бұрын

I agree on that.

This guy sounds like he's torturing James Bond !

@maujo2009

8 жыл бұрын

He sounds like Thunderf00t :P

@ratbutler

8 жыл бұрын

I think it's a chatbot.

@Denji2006

8 жыл бұрын

It's like Thunderf00t trying to do an impression of someone else lol

@artamussumatra6286

8 жыл бұрын

+ Alex Newson he should make him watch the first trailer on continuos loop. Even Bond would crack under that kind of pressure. ;))

@cuthulux

8 жыл бұрын

I think that's Andre, he's the founder of Midnight's Edge, and of some kind of Nordic decent, who speaks English via Britain. Hence why he sounds like Thunderfoot, but since English is his second language it comes off a bit stilted.

Nicely done! I think you hit the nail on the head. I was not aware that this movie also denied the existence of the original Ghostbusters. It would have been so simple to have the movie begin with the failure of the containment system from the original, and the daughter(s) of the original Ghostbusters working to clear their family name and even having to innovate and create new gear because those pesky spirits have grown and figured out how to beat the original containment equipment, hence their escape. Maybe even throw in a cameo by the original cast, just to seal the deal!

We must all make a stand. If the movie stinks, just don't go.

The RoboCop remake made me livid in a way that no other film ever had. I was in a horrid mood when I heard about it and even worse when I actually say it. The moment they tossed out the original color scheme and mocked it, I literally screamed "FUCK YOU!" at the screen. That said, what I feel for the new Ghosterbusters is beyond that... but not with anger. I'm not angry with the movie, just sad. So sad. I love the original, it was one of the first DVDs I ever purchased, it's a classic... and what they're doing is destroying that. It's like defacing a national monument, the people who did claiming that it made it better, then calling anybody who disagrees with it some PC SJW bullshit bastardization of a proper term to fit their narrative that what they did was a good thing. This morons do not know real hate, they do not know real oppression, they do not have any understanding of what they're talking about; they just throw around words to shield themselves from criticism. They've going out of their way to ruin something people love, and when people call them out, it's the fan who is evil. No, motherfucker, it's you who is evil, you corrupt everything you touch with your twisted ideology, unable to see anything beyond your own narrative and goals while expecting everybody to bow down. You lie, you manipulate, you destroy, all in the name of your own ends, incapable of allowing yourself to see that you are not a flawless, perfect lamb amidst the horrible lion's den. I can only hope that this movie bombs so hard that Feig and everybody like him who took part in this never find work again. I hope this crushes the hopes and dreams of all the narrative driven fools who see this as some icon so they are forced to see the reality that the movie is a piece of garbage. I want them to see that all the bullshit narrative and twisting of words and concepts can never make up for a lack of talent, a lack of comedy, a lack of atmosphere, a lack of actual CRAFT.

@shenyongo

8 жыл бұрын

Another thing I kind of cringe at is when people (on the internet, not as much so in real life) say "If it sucks, shut up. You still have the originals, they still exist". That is true, but in that case, why bother having a remake made? Not to mention people aren't mad because it's a remake or "different", they are mad because it's either a pointless remake or a remake that is just reaks of pandering and so called "focus groups".

@Phoenix2312

8 жыл бұрын

+BaconMinion I was onboard for a Robocop Reboot - But then I saw what they did... And they did everything WRONG! It was a 'Paint By Numbers Corporate Tick Box Exercise' and DESTROYED what should have been a perfect reboot! Had teh Execs had one ounce of common sense, they would have literally copy/paste the original script with better effects!!! NOPE !Had to be Politically Correct Bullshit!!!

@shenyongo

8 жыл бұрын

+Warren “Phoenix2312” Marris They also PG-13ified it, just like with Terminator, because "R-rated movies don't make money or sell merchandise". (Then Deadpool arrives shows them who's boss).

@nycholaus

8 жыл бұрын

+Warren “Phoenix2312” Marris clash of the titans remake made me rage as well. the original was camp, but not cheese. the harryhausen effects were endearing, but would admittedly be a no-sell except to diehard fans of the original or of harryhausen, but FOR CERTAIN modern stopmotion, modeling, and practical effects with minimal or no cgi would have been the way to go. as far as conan, obviously you cant REPLACE "Ahnold" but the new actor was SO bland, vanilla, and totally forgettable and unrelatable, and the supporting cast of the original portrayed the requisite sword and sorcery tropes perfectly, unlike in the remake.

@sinistar99

8 жыл бұрын

+Warren “Phoenix2312” Marris Right you SAW the movie before you made up your mind. weird.

I have seen much of your videos thus far, and in doing so I was hooked up to the whole situation with your Trankgates special. Is very interesting to see that in many ways, this whole mess with GBs almost mimics the same path as the whole debacle with Fant4stic. 1)Social Media Meltdowns with the Directors: checked. 2)Both Directors couldn't handle critisimn very pentuantly for the way they were taking the films (only Difference, Trank was fired and someone else had to come in to complete the film, Feig stayed). 3)Budget constraints: I can't remember what was the budget for Fant4stic, but I undertand it was cut extensively, but Tom Rothman cut GBs 2016 budget to 100 million from the original Budget Amy Pascal left behind. 4)Differences with Cast and Director: Trank nearly went to trade blows with Miles Teller and was vissibly mean towards Kate Mara, Paul Feig and Meghan McCarthy had been reported to had clashed (differences of Opinion) on set, but worsen by the fact there are reported collisions of Ego between McCarthy and another cast member, where as the Fant4stic stars kinna bounded together during Josh Trank's reign of Terror. 5)In order to fight all critique, The Studio, the production, SJW's and News Outlets accused Fans and the Fandom in General for been Racists do to the comments of an asshole minority, puttting them all together on the same pedastal: checked - Only differences was Racism with Fant4stic, here is that with Misogyny added, but still checked with Sony been more systematic in its attack on critics. 6)Systematic control of the information/censorship: Checked, only difference - On Fant4stic, Fox went on a Cease and Desist Spree on News Sites do to the Social Media leaks of Trank, here Sony did worst - they had been going on False DMCA's all over youtube and deleting the Comments critical of the film on their main YT channel, as well deleting Women comments on the film. 7)Cast went to promote the film much: do to their obligations the Stars at Fant4stic have to go on tour to promote the film as much as possible after so much negative criticism was expected to affect adversely the film, as of now GBs stars are beginning to promote and defend the Movie, with Dan Aykroyd and Megha McCarthy been the first to speak out, with McCarthy villianfying the fans even more. 8) Despite all the NDAs signed and all the false DMCAs it hasn't stop the leaks at all - the fact the movie's story was leaked on reddit months ago by a disgruntle worker at the production pretty much got fully confirmed by the Trailers themselves. 9)Much like Fox with the inmense negative reaction to Fant4stic, Sony is in full panic mode, and in full honesty, they really dunno who to deal with it outside from my No.5 point, but nothing that they say or do, seems to quiet all the hatred for this movie down, and they are well aware of how that went well with Fant4stic, this has to be specially more so for Rothman who is force to deliver a tentpole movie Amy Pascal failed to delivered properely (outside of Spiderman) during her tenure at Sony. And that the concerns to the Negative reaction to the film could ruin the possibilities of this reboot becoming a franchise. Anything else I missed.

One thing I'd point out, is the ORIGINALs were actually done by Saturday Night Live Alumni. They just gave it the right dose of silly AND scary.

@MitchellTF

8 жыл бұрын

And, the problem with blaming the audience...is that it's such a transparent ploy, it usually just ends in a pissed off audience.

@cheshirekat3050

8 жыл бұрын

And the original actors were friends in real life.They weren't just cast for their roles, they made the movie, as a personal project.The humor worked, because of their deep friendship with each other.

@cheshirekat3050

8 жыл бұрын

bjmicha3 That, and the fact that the teaser poster for the original movie, didn't hide the "unpretty" members of the team. Oh wait, the original movie revolved around a team of everyday, average-looking people. You know...people whom the audience can RELATE TO.

@MacIntyreStudio

8 жыл бұрын

Dan Aykroyd and Bill Murray were SNL alum. Harold Ramis was from SCTV and had already written such hits as Meatballs, Caddyshack, and Stripes (having worked with Bill Murray on the last two). Ernie Hudson was the dark horse of the cast, having little to no background in comedy, but coming from a TV background where he had various one-episode roles in shows like The Dukes of Hazard, Webster, The Odd Couple and the A-Team. So it was a decent mix of a cast that had already proven themselves and weren't one-trick ponies. Even Sigourney Weaver as Dana Barrett was genius casting as at the time she had little (none?) experience in comedy, but was know most well for playing Ripley in the the scifi horror Alien. So she was able to bring that to the table and really deliver once she was possessed by Zuul.

@MitchellTF

8 жыл бұрын

...Okay, good point. So, the difference is less that the girls are Saturday Night Live alum...and more that they can't do anything BUT comedy. Not to mention, the comedy in the trailers is a bit more...in your face, then the comedy in Ghostbusters. I mean, it wasn't UNDERSTATED, but it wasn't...It wasn't written like it was an SNL skit. This movie seems to have been.

I'd like to see this movie be the nail in Sony's coffin. And Feig? Seriously, has he made ANY good films? I'm getting sick of the dude's smug attitude and his flaming socks. :P

I feel like if this had been "Ghostbusters: The New Haunt", was a sequel to the original instead of a reboot, and had been more of a passing of the torch kind of deal with Akroyd giving it to the new cast, and they tried to adhere more to the spirit of the original series with modern enhancements, it wouldn't have been disliked nearly as much. I didn't even know it was a reboot till the trailer came out and while I didn't hate the trailer like some people did, it just seemed like a really bad choice to make. *EDIT* Also wrote the above idea before it came up in the video, so apparently I was right on with this idea lol

I'm not a Ghostbusters fan but any fandom does not take it well when drastic changes are made to their favorite franchise. Trying to reboot/supplant the original just pisses them off more. And hijacking the franchise to deliver spiteful social commentary? No shit they're going to hate it, it's nothing like the original and nothing like what they wanted to see.

Oh my god you're right! I didn't know Feig makes parody movies, but you're absolutely right - Spy IS a parody of James Bond. His reboot IS a parody of Ghostbusters whether it planned to be or not, but that is the opposite of what everyone wanted. We wanted it taken seriously, like J J Abrams took Star Wars seriously and understood his audience.

Its funny that so many feminists think this is mostly hated because they're women. People will just hate anything with women as a lead. That is flat out wrong. Legend of Korra has a female lead and while some did not like her it wasn't because she was a female. They hated her attitude. Many would still accept that she was a good character even though they did not like her. As her character grew the fans grew to like her and in the end she was worthy of her title as Avatar. The Internet loves having strong female leads but feminists believe that a female lead is good enough and if you hate a female lead then you hate women. Ironically it's feminists holding women back. It's like how games media treated the poor gameplay of Doom as gamers not wanting to let a person bad at video games to partake in video games. They completely missed the point. We love people who suck at video games. We can't get enough. but this footage was to show Doom at its best but the recorder could not do so

@shenyongo

8 жыл бұрын

So basically DOOM 2016 was criticized for the same reason that DARK SOULS has been praise for? So these media outlets just were upset that DOOM was a game and not some glorified straight-to-video movie that constantly holds your hand like the unnecessary Deckard narration in BLADE RUNNER? What a bunch of *babies* these gaming media outlets are.

@IdleDrifter

8 жыл бұрын

Blade Runner the Final Cut without the Deckard narration is so much damn better. There were also some subtle changes like Roy Batty calling Tyrell father instead of fucker.

@LadyTylerBioRodriguez

8 жыл бұрын

Damn right! I can like or dislike a character based on personality, not gender. I just saw Gay Puree with Judy Garland recently, and I hated her character. Because she was self centered and didn't give a damn about anybody but herself, when people like Robert Goulet's character really cared about her. On the other hand, Belle from Beauty and the Beast will always remain one of my favorite characters, because she is such a well rounded character with one of the all time great voice performances. I did not at one point bring up gender, it's not hard. It's annoying when people just assume things.

@TheBuckoJohnson

8 жыл бұрын

This PC BS is ridiculous and is really getting out of hand. What happened to telling a great story with well written, well rounded characters that serve a purpose? Where's the care, love and passion for making worthwhile movies? They still exist, but nowadays, Hollywood seems more concerned with banking on nostalgia and ruining classic franchises, rather than creating new ones.

@greyfox37

8 жыл бұрын

Women leads are fine, the actresses I am not fond of

This is my pick for the "top flop" of 2016. Anybody else?

Excellent analysis. Its exactly the reason why the casting of Ben Afleck was so controversial in Batman vs Superman. Something Denny ONeil said also comes to mind from the time when they killed Robin (Jason Todd) in the Batman book (from memory),"I realized that the Batman and the Superman editor are not just editors of a book, they are the custodians of folklore." And its the same with anything that has entered into the collective conscious of fandom. And its another reason why remakes seldom work. The classic version becomes common folklore and belongs to all the fans and not just the creators.(at least in perception and reaction) As you noted, fans can handle sequels (though they may still gripe about them to some extent) But, a complete reboot offends that common shared experience and folklore of the original.

The original worked because the script had a solid story at it's heart, with the comedy built on top of that. It would have worked as a straight-up horror movie if they wanted to take it in that direction. Hmmm. Maybe I'll watch it tonight...

Could you guys do a BvS documentary? Id love to see you cover that.

@michaelkopischke8072

8 жыл бұрын

I would love that as well.

@MidnightsEdge

8 жыл бұрын

Can't promise one devoted to BvS only, but a greater Warner/DCEU minidocumentary with heavy emphasis on BvS is not out of the question...

@izamanaick

8 жыл бұрын

+Midnight's Edge Awesome, thanks.

@Mia-dt3gl

8 жыл бұрын

Seriously, what's with the hate for Batman vs Superman? It wasn't a bad movie.

@izamanaick

8 жыл бұрын

+Mia Nobody but you mentioned hate. Besides, you might think it wasn't that bad but the general consensus is very mixed, largely negative.

Extreme Ghostbusters would've been perfect for the 3rd movie! Black guy, white guy, Hispanic guy, and a girl! AND they are taught how to be Ghostbusters by one of the original Ghostbusters! These idiots missed a perfect opportunity!!!!

They could hav made the exact same movie with four random guys and got the same negative response. Pretending the original movie never happened is the problem.

I like how the trailer played as the ad before this video. Thank goodness for that 5 second skip option.

Robocop was not that bad...

@Aladelicous

8 жыл бұрын

It wasn't very good either. The only scene where my interested piqued was probably the one where the Dr. reveals what's left of Murphy's body and pulls back the robotics. Other than that, I thought the movie was really bland. Like the Robocop 2 committee went through and sterilized anything that might upset anyone.

@jackbaxter2223

8 жыл бұрын

It was exactly what I expected it to be. Not as good as the original (not even close), but better than the sequels. Personally, it was more enjoyable than I expected, but certainly not great.

@coisasnatv

8 жыл бұрын

K IRA agree!

@jasonispunk

8 жыл бұрын

The remake ? Sorry that shit was awful

@thepickles8833

8 жыл бұрын

it's "Watchable". That's the best compliment I can give to the Robocop remake. It was so bland and barely did anything worth seeing. "Oh we gave Murphy a cool motorcycle, a black ops suit, and top performance WiFi! WEEeeeeeeeeeee..."

I'd like this movie to fail so that Hollywood maybe gets the message that these shitty remakes need to stop. Independence Day 2? WTF?

@shenyongo

8 жыл бұрын

Or maybe just make stuff that is **gasp** creative that doesn't bow down to standards of what execs believe is "realistic" or "relevant" or "what you have to make because...".

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

8 жыл бұрын

You can't stop it, it's the new tread in Hollywood: banking on nostalgia

@GrahamCStrouse

8 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I was never all that psyched about Batman vs. Superman cause it just seemed like a tone-deaf mash-up of stories that everyone pretty much knew. I am pretty intrigued by Suicide Squad, though, for instance. It looks like it's very well cast and it's based on a lesser known property. That tends to provide more creative freedom. In short, it looks like something new.

@tensaantares

8 жыл бұрын

Independence Day 2 is a remake? Interesting, that, considering it looks less like a REMAKE and more like a SEQUEL. I mean, this doesn't seem like a Superman Returns pseudo-sequel/reboot.

@tensaantares

8 жыл бұрын

If the uh stuff was "realistic" or "relevant" it would be similar to what was mentioned in the video concerning the original Ghostbusters with the attention to detail and sincerity that came across on-screen. Than again, who needs to make sense if there is bandwagon to hop on.

Very well said, you hit on every key point. Going forward, because of this movie, I am afraid that we will never get back to the same tone of the original movies, and the video game, which was great because it made you the main character. They could have even made a ghostbusters 4 and rereleased the game and sold tons of copies to people who did not play it to get caught up before the release of the movie.

I'm new to your channel and I have to say I really like your stuff. Keep it up. Bandit Incorporated recommended it.

@MidnightsEdge

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

one way i'd make it better is i'd have one of the women be the daughter of Ray or Peter since they were more likely to father children. and maybe have baby Oscar, who's now 28, be on the team too. that's just an idea

@Derrythe01

8 жыл бұрын

They already even had a kid to do this with. Dana's kid from the second movie.

@robinthrush9672

8 жыл бұрын

Oscar is Dana's kid.

@GoddessOfWhim2003

8 жыл бұрын

Joseph, exactly. Dana's son Oscar. see, it's not hard at all ^^

You guys never fail with your videos. So meticulous, thorough, very detailed, and informative. Love seeing the your new vids on my feed.

The main thing that drove me away from this new one is the simple fact that there was already so much more conceptual material established to continue the story. Sadly the "egon" is dead but ray could continue as a mentor type character. Young next gen ghostbusters would take on the mantle

Make a shit movie, call everybody a misogynist for not liking the shit movie.. Yeah, PC culture... great,..

@shenyongo

8 жыл бұрын

Dragonball Evolution: Take a source material - crap-I mean "fix it" - make a bad movie - call everyone fanboys for not liking the movie - watch it tank.

@Diggnuts

8 жыл бұрын

Brandon Dozier Yep, same odd mechanism.

I would consider myself a feminist in the sense that I support equality across the board. That doesn't mean I'm going to blindly support a film because it has an all female cast. There's something special about classic films, especially from the 80's, that today's reboots can almost never capture. Since the selling point for this film appears to be literally "they're women, if you don't like this movie then you hate women and are a misogynistic asshole!!!11!!", they're only testing the waters to see what else they can gender-bend. Gender-bending an original work and claiming it has new value is a cheap way of claiming that women are being well represented in media, and it's a very poor disguise for making more money. There are better ways of showing audiences strong female leads, which is through an original creation (which is almost impossible to find anymore).

@thedudewhomadethisvideo

8 жыл бұрын

"There are better ways of showing audiences strong female leads, which is through an original creation (which is almost impossible to find anymore)" - Look to other countries films, they're not impossible to find, it's just Hollywood.

@annieg838

8 жыл бұрын

I was implying Hollywood.

@DracoRincewind

8 жыл бұрын

I've been told they are making an all female "Oceans Eleven" remake.

@annieg838

8 жыл бұрын

+Robert Fisher The first one was a snore though 😂

Oh,I can deal with a strong,independent female cast in other movies. I love Lara Croft and would either want to see Angelina Jolie reprise the role as Lady Croft in hopefully a 3rd film or else get an even stronger and more dominant actress to play the part. Wonder Woman needs to be a badass because,afterall,she is an Amazonian princess warrior and if not Wonder Woman than Red Sonja but instead of redoing a story that's already been done before and tweak it a bit,just make a sequel. I bet a lot of you have never seen the movie "Bad Girls" its about four women in the old west being pushed around too far and they joined forces and raised hell. I wouldn't mind helping them out but I wouldn't dare attempt to do anything else with them because I don't want to get shot,I thank you.

@MidnightsEdge

8 жыл бұрын

How about Alicia Vikander as the next Lara Croft - because that is who you will be getting. Tom Raider video coming soon;p

@19buseye71

8 жыл бұрын

Well,Angelina Jolie was around that age when she played Lara Croft. So,I don't see why not but,of course,I'm referring to her age. I don't think I've ever seen any of Alicia Vikander's movies. I did read somewhere that it was talked about that Daisy Ridley may be considered to play Lady Croft but I guess that fell thru or else was just a rumor or wishful thinking,I don't know.

@AnthonySforza

8 жыл бұрын

Wasn't Drew Barrymore in Bad Girls? Yea, I think I saw that. To add to your list, Don't Tell mom the Babysitter's Dead was a pretty good movie with a strong female lead. Jessica Jones was a pretty cool show. Alien/s were pretty awesome. So was AVP with Sanaa Lathan. Run Lola Run, the Millennial series of movies were cool and also starring Noomi Rapace was Brian DePalma's "Passion." That was a good movie. The fact that it was ran by women weren't any of the complaints for Prometheus... I didn't mind the movie, but I know how others received it. Honestly, I could go on about this all day, which is the point, because I'm sure every single person that hit that dislike button on the trailer could as well.

@Zeaiclies

8 жыл бұрын

Check IMDB, they already cast a new girl in guess what another reboot of tomb raider movie.

@Zeaiclies

8 жыл бұрын

***** They cast a new girl for Tomb Raider.

I've seen both trailers and I was not impressed.....The Lovely Bride, a HUGE Ghost Busters fan, was very blunt after she saw them..."It looks pretty much like it would suck to have to pay to see that thing."....I tend to agree.

It's crazy that Sony wanted to build a Ghostbusters universe but without it including the original Ghostbusters! Ghostbusters isn't just a title. It IS those characters. People care about those characters, not that they bust ghosts.

How to do a new Ghostbusters right: Dan Aykroyd.

@pianotm

8 жыл бұрын

He's the executive producer. No, I'm not shitting you.

@richardshort2001

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but that could just mean they paid him to put his name on it. It should be his baby.

@pianotm

8 жыл бұрын

Could be, but I'm not sure. "Executive producer" has that certain ring to it. You know, it has "executive" in the title, which "executive" tends to mean the same thing as "the buck stops here".

@sinistar99

8 жыл бұрын

+Mr4theLulz1 He AND Ivan Rictman are executive producers and Ackroyd tweeted he saw a test screening and it's better than the originals according to him. but what does he know he's just RAY. and the main creator of the originals.

@pianotm

8 жыл бұрын

sinistar99 You put an awful lot of faith in the guy hasn't made a hit since the 80s, whose every movie since has been a box office flop, and...oh, right! Is financially dependent on the success of this movie and will be sued if he says anything bad about it. (Or did you miss the part where Sony was going to drag Bill Murray through litigation for not getting involved with the movie?) Hey! If you want to see a movie that sucks donkey balls, that's totally your lookout. I'd love this film to be good, but seriously, grow up. And Reitman's only credit is a writing credit, "based on the story written by".

Dang this channel is good! I really learn things and feel like I am hearing someone who works for the studio slipping me the inside scoop on the down low. The serious background music and professional tone to the writing add credibility to the material. Keep it coming!

@Lobsterwithinternet

2 жыл бұрын

And that's why I've been a fan of theirs ever since.

Thanks for taking the time to make this.

You also have to acknowledge a historical chemistry with the three actors and that they wrote and appeared in the success "Stripes". Ghostbusters was made in a similar vein.

Don't remake any more classics. Fucking come up with new shit Hollywood. And if you don't have anyone in there that are capable of originality, then it is time to allow some new people into the club.

your voice is ominous, i feel like im a watching something about a serial killer

+Midnight's Edge - Great job. Thoughtful, professional, and a service to true fans. Thank you - I had a hard time getting a grip on how I felt about the trailers and all the hubbub surrounding the movie. As of now, I'm out - not interested and won't watch it, even for free on TV in a year. I saw the original 4 times as a teenager and just can't take it. WHY!!?? WHY!!?? WHY!!??

perhaps it is time for moviemakers to forget about remakes, reimaginings and the like and actually do something bold, like... I don't know perhaps searching for new original stories again?

Another point - People don't hate the movie because of the all-female cast, people hate the movie because of who the all-female cast is. They're all non-funny hacks. These four are basically affirmative-action hires. They don't have careers because they're funny; they have careers because the entertainment industry has an ideologic vested interest in promoting female "stars".Put four women in this movie who actually are good comedians - and fix the other problems as well - and this movie could actually work. Yet another example of politics trumping theatre, with disastrous results.

@ShinShadoWolf

5 жыл бұрын

I'd be more inclined to believe that if Amy Schumer was cast.

I'm really late to subscribe, but I really enjoy your videos!

@MidnightsEdge

8 жыл бұрын

Better late than never, welcome!

Good commentary. It sounds like the studio doesn't understand the demographic it's marketing to and its trying to recover by intentionally driving the buzz south. It's hard to replace the actors/characters of the originals. Those guys had the right chemistry as well as the classic '80s humor to pull it off. So you're on the money when you say they should be going for next-generation Ghostbusters instead of a remake.

Here is why I hate the look of the film. A small amount of it DOES have to do with the all female team. I don't have a problem with an all female team, but I do have a problem with them remaking the original and replacing the original beloved team with an all female team. But the big 2 problems are the ghosts and the humor. The ghosts look really bright and colorful, and it looks like they have taken away most, if not all, of the scariness from the ghosts. And the humor is groan inducing.

i'm glad you clarified that it is pseudoscience

Love it when I discover a channel destined for greatness. See you at 100k ! Keep up the good work.

@MidnightsEdge

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks, hope you stick along for the ride!

Your analysis sounds point on but I haven't given up on the new movie yet. A trailer is not a movie. We'll see what comes out in the end. Your points on what made the original movie so popular are very well taken. There may also be a problem with the new soundtrack which had a lot to do with the success of the original film.

This was a very well structured look at the problem, I like how you remained calm and collected while discussing the issue rather than shouting and swearing about it like a lot of other channels, it gives your opinions a lot more credibility :) great video

Honestly half the hate this movie has gotten is just becuase of sony "damage control. This is what's wrong with these movements and current society; if you make something public that has a gay, trans, or female character you can just blame sexism or homophobic, etc instead of just accepting that you released a crap movie. I make Lego creations; if I were to name one creation as gay do you know how much hate I'd get if I disregarded every comment and called the entire website homophobic? If that stupid excuse wouldn't work for me it shouldn't work for these people in power.

@sofakingimmature

8 жыл бұрын

Which I find a bit ironic because I know a lot of people who have movies like Brokeback Mountain, and while they will admit to not being comfortable with the subject matter, can acknowledge that it is a well written, well-made movie.

@manulito2

8 жыл бұрын

That's Neo-Liberalism to you... in the 70ies, when Civil Rights Movements and the Feminist movment began (and were necessary), all those suits in the companies spit and hated on them. Now it is more common to be a feminist or part of a minority (in Western countries at least) and Neo-Liberalism just absorbed this notion, twisted it and found a way to make money with it. And if it's misfires, well than that's the publics fault. Seriously, neither Paul Feig, nor the woman in charge of the GB-reboot really care about strong female leads in their Ghostbuster movie. All they see is a popular name and a new way to marked it... sad but true.

What people who defend the film don't realize, is that if it was an all "male" cast, It would receive substantially more hate from all over, because it wouldn't have people trying to defend something that they know is objectively bad just for the sake of their own misguided agendas.

@azuresaiyan9005

8 жыл бұрын

Hell, replace Melissa McCarthy and Kristen Wiig with Kevin James and Adam Sandler. I'm confident the backlash would be 3x worse.

@ItsNickFox

8 жыл бұрын

I just imagined that in my head and it actually made me angry. haha ...which is more than I can say about Feigbusters, which mostly just perplexes me.

@88franko

8 жыл бұрын

The scariest thing is, that could have been a reality since SONY produced all those Sandler atrocities(I refuse to call them movies) and Happy Madison is on the Sony movie lot.

@SuperCosmicMutantSquid

8 жыл бұрын

An easy way to explain it is like this; if this were a remake made by Adam Sandler and had all male, people would still hate it because we have seen the track record of this guy when it comes to pushing comedy too hard in a poor attempt to be funny. If anything, the remake feels like something Adam Sandler would make as his trademark 'jokes' are there as well as his character types. If someone competent had been in charge and we saw actual TALENT in the script, people would be hyped as shit. Yes, there is no doubt there would be a lot of sexist assholes out there, there will always be people like that, but we would have a majority who would WANT this to be the summer movie of 2016 but we are not getting that. We're just getting another general 20k 'comedy'.

@shenyongo

8 жыл бұрын

People all also resorting to "the original was a remake" argument. No, it's a homage. A homage takes elements of a certain franchise or genre but does its own thing. That is NOT a remake. Trying to argue that GHOSTBUSTERS 1984 is a remake is like trying to say that the original STAR WARS was a Flash Gordon remake.

The reason the trailers for the remake are getting slammed is simply, one reason... it looks terrible.

03:15 That photo is so phenomenal. Their facial expressions portrait the characters well.

Except I don't remember Hasbro playing that particular trap card when seeking blame for Jem and the Holograms 2015 failing.Then again they rolled out a successful Jem and the Holograms comic that year with IDW. Sony doesn't even have that going for them in a Ghostbusters 2016 inspired comic with, again, IDW, to try and swing things around. Maybe IDW knew better with International.

@SuperWolsey

8 жыл бұрын

Hasbro succeeded in making Marvel film projects circa 1986, '96, & 98 (Generation X and Nic Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. /David Hasselhoff) look like Oscar winning pictures compared to that bastardization of Jem.

@DarkeRaven09

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah but those were back in the Speculator & Dark Age, when they were just concerned with being extreme or relevant please buy comics. This is the Reboot Inheritor Age, where it's all about packaging the past to sell to your vision of the Next Generation. As envisioned by a man whose past successes involved documentaries about Justin Beiber.

@DarkeRaven09

8 жыл бұрын

I.e. what you think the Next Generation will buy wholesale and lap up. Present past gen fandom need not imply... even if they're the heart and soul of the franchise in question. Doing a reboot Ghostbusters IDW comic style? Good idea. Doing a completely from scratch reboot marketing only to the Next Generation if hand picked fans? Bad.

@SuperCosmicMutantSquid

8 жыл бұрын

+DarkeRaven09 Looking back into Jem, Hasbro also didn't bank that much money into it compared to Transformers or even the GI Joe movies, even though the guy who directed the Jem movie also worked on the GI Joe movies. Jem also wasn't pushed as hard as Ghostbusters despite BOTH being staples of 80s animation fandom and both having large enough fanbases of both old fans and new to know what the show is. GRANTED, I will argue that as much love Jem has, Ghostbusters IS a bigger series and has gotten more continuations over the years in the forms of games, toys, and comics while Jem is remembered mostly through the old show and recently the IDW comic. Ghostbusters is also owned by Sony and as such is their cash cow. Hasbro has a LOT of franchises it can rely on whether it be on the big screen or small screen and they also have their toy division pulling in lots of dough as well. Hasbro isn't hurting as much even when a movie they make bombs (Battleship, Ouiji, Jem) because they will always have something else to cushion the blow. Sony has had a lot of tough times and after Disney got Spiderman back for the Marvel Universe, they'er scrambling to get some cash in so why not do it with a property they have that has always brought in some money; Ghostbusters. And as SHITTY as the Jem movie was, I will admit that the reactions from the director of that film was a lot more mature than what Feige (sp) has shown all out. The Jem director was ambitious if just misguided in how to do this but in the end he and Hasbro never blamed misogyny for the movie tanking since fans, mostly women, let it be KNOWN how pissed off they were at the film and the message was heard. Comparing that to Ghostbusters, it seems like ALL fans are ignored, including the female ones who aren't impressed by this. Any female fans who are disappointed seem to be swept under the rug and replaced by the cherry-picked legit sexist comments to cover the asses of everyone in charge. They simply don't want a big-budget, big name series to fail on their watch and given the heat of the current times they are grabbing at reasons for its failure except for their own doing. Fiege's temper tantrum over this was the final straw for me; the guy has shown himself to be very egotistical and unable to take criticism in any way all the while trying to play off some sob-story about how he's 'different' and 'understands women' better as if we should see him as the lord and savior of female driven movie. The characters in Ghosbusters shows that is not at all the point.

@SuperWolsey

8 жыл бұрын

DarkeRaven09 and the other guy who discovered him

Great video!

Yea... millions of people give actual valid reasons for not liking the trailer: "Misogyny!!!" I also like how Dan Akroyd is trying to do MASSIVE damage control, saying it's more funny than the first two... crutching on the fact that people will think "Oh... damn, if HE says it's funny as hell, now I have to see it." Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he got paid to say it.

At 8 minutes, where it is mentioned that the whole film comes off as a Saturday Night Live skit... I honestly thought I was the only person who felt that way about it. Damn. Nice to see others really do think of it that way.

This guy hit's the nail right on the head.

I have no problem with it being all female. I thought that was a cool idea, when I first heard about it But seeing the trailers, it just looks like yet another dumb, gross-out comedy, like the millions we've seen in years past. It feels like an Adam Sandler movie...which is why it's probably gonna make a ton of money anyway, no matter what anyone says.

@lumendelsol

8 жыл бұрын

it wont make a dime because adam DIDNT direct it.

@shenyongo

8 жыл бұрын

Mellisa McCarthy thinks "haters" need to "find a friend". What is that supposed to mean? Is she saying that those who criticize this movie are a bunch of basement dwelling loners?

@cheshirekat3050

8 жыл бұрын

It's like a 2nd-grader who sticks a straw up his nose in the school cafeteria, and wonders why no one is laughing with him.

I agree with what you said, particularly about the passing the torch vs the reboot route Sony ultimately took. The scene from the original GB where Venkman spoke to Ray about the "franchise options" in itself could have been the opening needed for the new GB generation. The damage is done though. Chances are that Sony may do a reboot of this reboot in the future, simply based on how badly THIS one does. if they do so they should stick with the "passing the torch" idea that was thrown out for this one. Hopefully this movie won't kill the brand. I knew this movie was in trouble when members of the original flicks shilled for it. I've never seen a reboot where they got the original cast to shill for the new one, never... until this one.

Why? Why remake a movie that was done right the first time? Ghostbusters now joins the list with Psycho, Halloween, Carrie, Total Recall, Robocop, Alfie, Annie, Dawn of the Dead, I Spit On Your Grave, Fright Night, Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, The Omen.... And the list goes on..... Few remakes, reboots or "re-imaginings" are ever better than the original. Cape Fear with Deniro, (though the original with Mitchum was great) and John Carpenter's The Thing are some of the very few remakes that are as good or better than the original. Speaking of Carpenter. What gave Rob Zombie the gall to think he could do Halloween better than Carpenter? It's John Fucking Carpenter! The only time I can even begin to understand why a remake is needed is when adapting a foreign film for U.S. audiences. REC and Quarantine are recent examples tgat come to mind and both were good. While The Vanishing with Kiefer Sutherland was filmed better from a technical standpoint than the French Canadian version. But Hollywood had to screw it up by completely changing the ending. Their excuse: Americans can't handle unhappy endings. How insulting! Oh, and Old Boy. The Japanese version was perfect. Why adapt it and screw it up? I decided a long time ago to never pay money to see a film remake. If we all did the same, maybe Hollywood will get the hint.... maybe. (Probably not.)