I thought it was very sweet and touching to see Egon's (Harold Ramis's) ghost in the movie. That scene made me a little emotional. It was a beautiful send off for the actor and the character

@mymomsbasement69

4 ай бұрын

LOL yeah, Sony did a good job of scamming you then. Its gross.

@Miketv79

4 ай бұрын

I completely agree.

@vladyvhv9579

4 ай бұрын

@@mymomsbasement69 Naw. You're just being a troll.

@donnafilips1378

4 ай бұрын

i loved it

@dlcolwell120

4 ай бұрын

I teared up like a 3 year old lol

I’ve known Harold’s daughter since I was 14. They were extremely close. And Harold had a good relationship with Reitman senior… so in this case, not only was I good with it, but it made me pretty emotional (I worked with Harold myself years later on Knocked Up).

@DanHosler

3 ай бұрын

I'll never forgive myself for not getting to shake his hand and say thanks for everything

@beverlykrebs4372

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing that. I was blubbering like a baby when it showed Egon's spirit. And that little text of "for Harold" at the end just finished me off. I still cry every single time I watch it.

@dskyeproducer

2 ай бұрын

You’re welcome. Yeah. Definitely got me too. And still does.

I believe Harold would be happy how he was portrayed. Harold and Dan had plans to make a few more Ghostbuster movies before he passed on.

The CGI Egon was the most respectful and detailed recreation I have ever seen, and I'm glad we got that closure. As for Rick Moranis, I wouldn't count on it at all. I suspect the extra body is the Asian friend from the last film as we see him in the trailer as well.

@MsDisneylandlover

4 ай бұрын

Rip egon

@Sci-Fi-Mike

4 ай бұрын

Are you referring to Podcast? I think the actor was confirmed for this movie.

@steyin

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, saw him in another part of the trailer but I couldn't recall his name.@@Sci-Fi-Mike

@Sci-Fi-Mike

4 ай бұрын

@steyin cool! Glad I got him right!

@boxfox2945

2 ай бұрын

He was apparently fed-up, with hollywood. Bit odd if he changed his mind. Wasn't sure if he still lived.

In general, I agree with the sentiment of your point at the end. However, I feel like this is a unique case. Jason Reitman and Violet Ramis Stiel grew up together as their respective fathers made the original Ghostbusters movies together. Bill Murray is Violet's godfather. I think they had a pretty good idea that they were honoring Harold in a way that he would approve of.

@PopeJohnBeatoIV

4 ай бұрын

Exactly! Also having his dad approving of it.

@johannajohnson4069

4 ай бұрын

Tack on Dan Aykroyd being a producer and intentionally using a different actor for the living scenes. This is literally the best case without a written declaration

@sarahlouise7991

4 ай бұрын

There's also the additional element that for actors to write down those kind of rules, what would happen if they changed their minds later on? Or changed them and then changed them again? It would be like making sure your will was always up to date. Maybe that's how it could be incorporated, into an actors' will. But even that could be legally challenged.

@STormnNormn2027

4 ай бұрын

It also came down to what was the purpose of bringing back the character. Egon had a huge and vital role in Afterlife and performing most of those interactions without using a digital double was a smart move. The sparing use of the digital Harold Ramis face kept it tasteful.

@vladyvhv9579

4 ай бұрын

@@STormnNormn2027 Indeed. It was really supposed to be an homage to him, not just some cash-grab reason. And it makes sense within the plot. Egon's ghost wasn't just helping his family, he was helping them save the world.

I liked ghostbusters afterlife. I thought it was tasteful to bring him back that way. He wasn't given any lines it was just visual, but that's just me. 🤷🏼‍♀️

@Peppers19781978

4 ай бұрын

It was a powerful and emotional moment for fans but imagine how powerful and emotional it was for his family and the other original GB.

@jarrodedson5441

4 ай бұрын

It was distastful

@pzaikis

4 ай бұрын

I agree it was very touching, not a dry eye in the cinema.

@Miketv79

4 ай бұрын

I thought it was sweet and well done. I don't think anyone was mad at seeing Egon's ghost in Afterlife. If it was done in a disturbing way then yes that would be uncalled for. But being his ghost helping his granddaughter out was a sweet gesture for the character and for all GB fans of the actor.

@Miketv79

4 ай бұрын

​@@jarrodedson5441your comment is distasteful. Yes i agree with that.

The Rudd line in the trailer “bustin makes me feel good…” made me burst out with laughter and tears of joy at the same time. Absolutely incredible. You & me both, Paul. You and me both…

Harold and Dan tried so hard to get ghostbusters 3 made. His family agreed because they knew he wanted it made and they did it in the most respectful way. I’m pretty certain that Harold Ramis would have 100% approved. However, that’s just this specific case and I’m not sure it’s ok in other projects.

My personal opinion. I would find it gratifying that if, in the future, after I have passed, I could still provide for my family. To me, that seems like something I would strive for to know that I'm still helping out my family

@damnedash9526

4 ай бұрын

I absolutely love this.

@chamathnadeeshan4008

4 ай бұрын

And you kind of get to give longer in people's hearts tho.

@crush41gb

4 ай бұрын

I agree. Saying they never know the relationship etc. The logic would follow never finish the work of the particular person, books, buildings, research. If all steps towards permission and respect towards each individual are given perhaps. I loved seeing Egon in Afterlife. I thought they honored him and their history.

@B_vagabond

4 ай бұрын

You make a good point. It’s all about personal preference and each individual’s view on the matter. It almost falls into the issues you see a lot with medical proxy, power of attorney, and conservatorships. Which makes Eric’s point of actors and creators need to have it expressly written somewhere before their passing how they would like their likeness and IP handled all good point as well.

@danielcostanza4628

4 ай бұрын

​@@crush41gbmy whole theater loved it people were clapping about it some cheering. I thought it was a beautiful piece. With respect I also grew up with the original Ghostbusters.

Peter Cushing coming back in Rogue One was so apt as he'd played Dr Frankenstein so many times - a character that brought people back from the dead. I reckon he'd love the macabre irony of it.

Regarding CGI and deceased actors, I don't see an issue with it. After all, they're not recreating the actor, they're recreating the character.

@TheConMan1

4 ай бұрын

But then according to that philosophy we can replace all actors with CGI, or use them to spout anything. Would you like to be dead and have a CGI puppet with your likeness saying anything, without any of your control?

@mrwicked7

4 ай бұрын

I feel the same way. Yes, a character is typically identified by one actors voice & likeness but there are many other people who contribute to physically bringing that original character to life on screen. You have stunt people, body doubles, practical effects artists, miniatures, and of course CGI artists.

@brettbaratheon9776

4 ай бұрын

Absolutely. What a weird take he has on this. THE FAMILY AND HIS FRIENDS all signed off on this. “Maybe his family didn’t know what he wanted”. Such a weird take. Furthermore, SAG, yeah, there is a real trustworthy and honorable group of people.

@rubensalvador9422

4 ай бұрын

What if they recreated a deceased actor for a role he never performed. Laurence Olivier was digitally manipulated using old footage to appear in 2004's Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow?

@hippo1985

4 ай бұрын

As long as they dont give the character a voice that isn't their own, then yes, Thats why Afterlife did a good job, it was tasteful, not over the top, and was saved until the very end. No talking just a minute scene of him helping his granddaughter with the proton gun, while the other old members just looked his way and smiled. If you are a proper ghostbusters fan then you would have no issue with how Afterlife sent him off, now if they bring him back for Frozen Empire as a fully fledged CGI character that will be distasteful and it looks from the trailer as if he's back (Phoebe is playing chess with an invisible entity in central park in one scene), I hope for the sake of the film its just a nod to his character.

Somewhere in the multiverse, Woody Harelson has fully adopted the Tallahassee persona from Zombieland and is fanboying so hard right now

@soupahbunnybusiness

4 ай бұрын

YO SO TRUE 🤣🤣🤣

@ToasterKittyMemes

4 ай бұрын

Fr😂😂😂

@ThePatman1980

4 ай бұрын

It's funny how he's fanboying over Bill Murray in Zombieland but Bill Murray is an a-hole to him in Kingpin.

@chrisrobinson407

4 ай бұрын

​@LordFleaBottom great pull!!!

@shoedini7487

4 ай бұрын

Q

Also, Peck may be referring to the ending events of Ghostbusters 2. Where the crowd around the museum only saw Luis shoot the slime shell and break it. Thus no eye witnesses to them as the Ghostbusters doing anything.

If the family is ok with using the image of decease actors, then I’m ok with it. I love seeing Tarkin in Rouge One.

@DeathBYDesign666

4 ай бұрын

Though the ghost aspect does make the uncanny valley less obvious if you ask me.

if rick moranis becomes your mephisto of the year i can't wait to see that but i also would love a rick moranis return lol

@MrDeanWeen

4 ай бұрын

Wow what a great comparison because it's so true. Rick is not coming back.

@neiltaylor9222

4 ай бұрын

It's not Rick It's the Asian kid Podcast from Afterlife.

@ChrissaTodd

4 ай бұрын

@@neiltaylor9222 yeah I figured

@ChrissaTodd

4 ай бұрын

@@MrDeanWeen yeah as much as I would love a rick moranis return , I know in the scene it's podcast, that kid from afterlife

Harold Ramis & Dan Aykroyd wrote Ghostbusters, they wrote the video game script, and wanted to make a 3rd film for 25 years before Ramis passed away. Of course, he'd have loved to come back again.

My opinion on Egon being used in afterlife is it was done from respect and love from Jason and Ivan. It was a tribute and done very well with “for Harold “ at the end. I see no issue.

"Everything was fine until Mr. Pecker here turned off the containment grid."

@kingbeef66

4 ай бұрын

Now he’ll do even more asinine damage as mayor if the speculations are true.

@derektereve286

4 ай бұрын

​@@kingbeef66 I wanna know how Dickless became Mayor

@kingbeef66

4 ай бұрын

@@derektereve286 Indeed. I hope there is an explanation for how Peck became mayor in the movie, besides him coincidently being the current mayor. Either Ray, Winston, Janine, or even Peter need to explain to the Spenglers and Gary Grooberson the history that the GB have had with Peck and how he ran in an election and won despite his demeanor being an unscrupulous heel and a snake.

Yes. Have some (Rick Moranis).

13:43-14:06 That is an interesting observation. 16:25 In my opinion, Egon's ghost is one of the best times a deceased actor "reprises" an iconic role.

Did anyone think that after slimer slimed Trevor, Trevor would “yeah, he slimed me” as a reference to Peter venkman in the first ghostbusters movie

@jarianharris8240

4 ай бұрын

I did

@KD-xp2eo

4 ай бұрын

Yep!

@putv3

4 ай бұрын

Totally did!

@ercrex7820

4 ай бұрын

Glad he didn’t. Those kinds of callbacks are nauseating, pandering, and creatively lame.

@pickettpride6980

4 ай бұрын

Maybe he will in the final cut

Stay-Puft being the Ghostbusters version of Meeseeks is the crossover i need.

@thatcomicandmangafanfromdublin

2 ай бұрын

It’s funny because they crave death

I think it’s contingent on the relationship the actor had with his family. It Reitman’s case, we know how much the son and the father adored one another, and how much they both loved the franchise, how much respect they had for the fans and vice versa. In this case I’m alright with them using AI to bring him back. But I think we should reflect on this in a case by case basis.

I get your point on the CGI of someone who has passed, but in all honesty, the feeling I got when seeing someone who I watched on the big screen and LOVED their performance everytime, I got the chills to revisit that person in that moment. Even for a brief moment we as movie goers got Harold Ramis back for a brief moment to honor him and say goodbye after his sudden passing.

@Robert-nu4vc

3 ай бұрын

It would have been cool if in Afterlife Murray and Aykroyd did that Do-Ray....and then Egon's ghost appears and says Egon with that famous Harold Ramis smirk. That would have been a cooler first ghostly appearance by Egon.

Seriously- Harold Ramis started Ghostbusters, and will live on forever as a Ghostbuster. I truly believe there is no way that he wouldn't want to be put back into it. Seriously! And I found it was so tastefully done in Afterlife, what a great tribute to him!! ❤️

There were more. Janine's phone from Ghostbusters II, for instance.

If rick is in it ill cry in the theater

Honestly I'd rather it be left up to surviving family members than any sort of outside entity or union.

I don’t think that was Louis Tully at the end, I think that was Podcast

So happy Slimer was included!

@jeahavvalentin980

4 ай бұрын

Still the same friendly slimer in a slimey way😊

Personally, I think it was great the ramis family actually did give their consent for Harold's likeness. He and ackroyd created the ghostbusters. It never would be where it's at now without him. That's why his family, gave their consent.

The 4th Ghostbusters masterpiece!🚫👻🥶

@KvN0_0

4 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@OrdinarilyBob

4 ай бұрын

Yup. GB1, GB2, GB3:A, and now GB4:FE. That's it. Four movies in this series.

@EpicMuttonChops

3 ай бұрын

yeah, GB2 doesn't count

@evan-shay

3 ай бұрын

5th😊

@thatcomicandmangafanfromdublin

2 ай бұрын

5th because 2016

Lars reminds me of Spengler from The Real Ghostbusters with his blonde hair like that.

@schnubbel76

3 ай бұрын

Thought the same. Pretty sure it is on purpose.

17:08 as far as I’m concerned, I agree with you about the likeness. But I also see that Spengler was the heart of the team and without Ramis it makes it a lot harder to have the GB crew. Also as far as the consent issue, I think the family should have the say on whether or not a deceased actor’s likeness should be used.

I see Ghostbusters Afterlife as a tribute to the character of Egon Spengler and Harold Ramis in the movie's entirety and I think that Afterlife would not have been the same without his digital recreation. However I do think that Afterlife lifted itself up while creating a precedent that is haphazard at best.

@edwardjohnson6744

4 ай бұрын

It did not create, as it was not the first.

Gotta say William Atherton AND Ernie Hudson look amazing

That additional figure is the Asian kid Podcaat from Afterlife you can see him in the background in an earlier scene!!! I'm glad he's back he was great in the 1st one.

@nancya5191

4 ай бұрын

Nah it’s janosz

@neiltaylor9222

4 ай бұрын

@@nancya5191 nope...It's definitely Podcast!!!

Ramis may have signed a contract to be in a sequel before he passed?? personally, i thought it was an amazing way to honor "Egon" in "Afterlife!"

With any likeness it’s always been considered the family/other official representing party’s decisions. Posters, remixes, reusing old footage. CGI recreation is just an extension of that

I’m so excited for Frozen Empire

I'll be honest, I would've been happy if Afterlife was the end of it. Great send off and the postcredit scenes sealed it. Watching the trailer for this makes me excited yet nervous.

Lars’s costume/hair looks like a call back to Real Ghostbusters cartoon. That side profile, he looked like Egon from the cartoon.

Big Ghostbusters fan but I was yesterday years old when I realised the double entendre in the theme lyrics 😅

@Connorsdaddy12062008

4 ай бұрын

Seriously, though. How am I 41 years old, and I never realized this until now?!

@SebbStrife

4 ай бұрын

@@Connorsdaddy12062008 exactly 🤣

@profx23

3 ай бұрын

Just caught on to that as of the video. 😂

A good video until the end, you really had to go there, I’m pretty sure there are legal documents signed for next of kin, but I’m also sure actors and actresses were never faced with the development of A.I. in their contracts until recently. It’s like Mozart thinking about the 8-track.

@steelstreet79

4 ай бұрын

Should start adding this in fine print in future contracts.

I'd love to see a prequel series focused on Tobin and his work that led to the creation of the Spirit Guide.

Seeing Harold in after life brought a smile and a tear to my eye it was tasteful and didn’t over reach. If loving this is wrong, I don’t want to be right!

I would have never expected Ghostbusters: Afterlife to make me cheer or feel like a kid again, and I was ABSOLUTELY not expecting the tears I shed in the end after waiting so long for a proper sequel, and seeing the beautiful send off to Harold Ramis. Keeping him as a none speaking ghost was shear perfection, though it would have been great to see him play Egon one last time. I am TRULY hoping this movie lives up to Afterlife and the original 2 movies.

You'd have better odds of Harold Ramis' actual ghost making an appearance than Moranis.

This film is coming out the day after my B-Day. BEST B-DAY Gift Ever!

Because of what happened with Crispen Glover in Back to the Future they can't use a look alike actor without the actors permission it's called the Weissman Law

Regarding the size of the containment unit in the original movie - I always envisioned the containment unit as much larger device in a room behind the wall, and what we saw was just the "lock" used to safely force a newly-captured ghost in without breaking containment. This is suggested when Peck ordered the grid turned off and several of the blocks around the red "containment box" blew out. Maybe we are seeing the other side of it or additional modifications the existing grid to provide more controlled methods of examination and egress?

It’ll be cool to see the Ghostbusters being an organisation with more people

Can't speak for all usage of deceased actors likness. But in Ghostbuster Aferlife. I feel proper respect and revrence was shown for Harold Ramis. It didn't feel like it was about the money. It felt like a love letter to Harold.

The mini marshmallow men are the Jar Jar Binks of Ghostbusters.

Harold Ramis always wanted Ghostbusters 3 made. He wouldve wanted to be represented. I am completely certain he wouldve gladly signed off on being a CGI ghost.

R.I.P. Ivan Reitman.

Lars looks like the Egan cartoon from the real ghost busters

Peck was a eye witness, he was covered in marshmallow when the roof was destroyed 😮

Love your videos and I’ve been watching for ages

Janine gave Winston a coin. Not a key…

I think it's likely more often than not that older actors like Harold and Carrie will have their approved estate arrangements in order before they pass. It's over the top to worry about whether an actor's estate is not actually the estate they would approve of making decisions for them because we will never know where the truth is on that.

Harold's daughter okay'd it.

Harold's kids were asked and they said it was tasteful and respectful, they were even shown it. Where as Christopher's kids haven't even watched the Flash.

"Lars" looks like the ghostbusters Egon spengler action figure (the blond one) from 1986-87

Wouldn't the fourth person running in the group shot be Janine? Would be great to see Moranis back, but I think it's Janine. Soz. I feel like the fun police 🙁

Maybe Rudd , Acaster , Oswalt and Nanjiani will be the spin off of the real Ghostbusters animated series...like a type of marvel what if? Or into the spider verse animation style. Just thinking out loud here. Would be awesome to see !!!

I think I read an article recently that the “Shrunk” Disney plus series was silently cancelled. Could just be a false article, but I wasn’t surprised.

Awesome💯

Awesome I can't wait to see it 😊👍

Ghostbusters 4 in 2024 is dope

@zackjohnson9928

3 ай бұрын

You know, I think it would be a good idea to make ghost busters with an all female cast. It's never been done before

Ghostbusters is underrated

@who-ny5oe

4 ай бұрын

What are you talking about? It is far from underrated. It is very popular.

Excellent point on reuse of talent likeness! Wasn't initially sure but you're right. And the more I think about the slippier the slope is. There's soamy legal allowances for companies to use our data, comparing personal data usage and CGI likeness is just close enough for lawyers to argue for use of public CGI likeness...

I think you make a strong point. But i also think AI has reached a point where it is more immaculate and perhaps seasoned actors from the 80's weren't even imagining having to write something like that down. This is a good idea for actors coming from the Ot's of 2000.

Yeah, I had a feeling the Death Cill villain was responsible for the first Ice Age.

I can't wait to see this

They had a seance and asked Harold directly.

16:38 I agree.

Lars looks like Egon from The Real Ghostbuster's animated series. Blonde hair updo and all. I wonder if that's what they were going for to keep "Egon" as part of these movies.

Love that I got the trailer before I started the video

I find it interesting that the lore seemed to have changed a bit surrounding egon and ray. In the first movie ray clearly helped egon make all of their toys. It wasnt just egon as afterlife showed. It was ray and egon. Sure ray was more mechanical and knowledgeable about the lore but when him and egon got together they really made some great stuff. Though it can be argued that egon came up with the idea of the equipment and made the schematics which makes sense. But i still like to imagine that ray is just as handy with that stuff as Egon. But its fair to say with egon gone ray wouldnt have anyone to follow with making the things that needs to be made.

Your own ghostbuster casting you did is perfection by the way

Im sure its taking place at the library because the lion comes alive ...And the library ghost scares ray same with the lion.

Looking forward to it

I'm really sad we are not getting the 2016 crew back, like they did in the comics. They are awesome.

STRONGLY DISAGREE with you Ross. I thought Afterlife, it's in the title, did a wonderfully teaseful use of Egon. The beginning of the movie felt so 1980s, with just seeing his feet, with a stand in. When he came back as a ghost, the touching moment with his granddaughter and own daughter....it was not done in a way to get money. It was a way to included an actor who dead about a movie he was passionate about, AND tied in the story of family, sacrifice and love. HE wanted to protect his family and HE was there to save and guide his granddaughter in a way that he could never do while he was alive. HE could only do it in the Afterlife. Mic drop.

The larger containment unit looks a great deal like the one that came with the firehouse i had growing up. The one from the cartoon

Louis Tully was the first and one of the only Tullys that I ever have ever experienced in cinema. Keep on Keymaster!

great review

I cannot wait 4 this…

@OrdinarilyBob

4 ай бұрын

I see what you did there. :)

I think each use of a deceased actor should be a case by case basis. Mr. Ramis was an integral part of this franchise. In 2016 Ghostbusters, his bust was featured in the film and it was dedicated to him. Ghostbusters afterlife felt like a fitting way for all of us to have a bit of closure after his passing. A way to say goodbye. Around the world, in many cultures, humans find comfort in believing our loved ones that have passed away watch over us and lend a hand in our times of need. Ghostbusters Afterlife captured this emotion in a wholesome manner. That is why I believe this instance is acceptable. Moving forward it may be that a section of an actor's will should address the use of their likeness in a yet to be released / created film.

I totally agree with your stance on resurrecting dead actors with CGI. I believe the practice should be abolished. Even if someone established in their will that their likeness could be used in a specific project after their death, they wouldn't be alive to address the inevitable changes. What if they would be diametrically opposed to what the changes would make of the media, and want to be taken off the project? Recreating dead actors is totally unethical, and we should stop doing it. Makeup technology has gotten good enough that we can make actors nearly identical to the deceased actor now anyway

Super excited for Ghostbusters Frozen Empire

I have no issue at all with CGI for any actor that has passed away. As long as it’s done right and the family give their blessing.

That Egon scene (that reminded me of Goku & Gohan vs Cell) was perfect.

Cool!

Lets gooo this vid was lit an this movie is gonna be to!!!!

In this movie acaster looks slot like Egon from the real Ghostbusters.

So that library ghost wasn’t the same? If the lion statue outside comes to life, this is likely the same ghost. You’d think Elenor Twitty would be grateful for sealing that mandala all those years ago.

I agree with parts of your point about postmortem cameos but you're way off when you mention the family not having the right. You're advocating for government to have more control over the likeness of your departed loved ones than their family. That's a huge "stfu" from me. The family should have the only say in it period.

@tallietorchersproductions2740

4 ай бұрын

Yup. The family should be the ones who say that it’s ok or not ok for a movie to use the likeness of a deceased family member

Yehhhhh for William Atherton return ❤