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@aceaj2620

3 жыл бұрын

BaileyPoints I really wish they had an honour system(like infamous) and that would effect what jin says and does in cutscenes so the ending would change according to honour level

@kurowolf4947

3 жыл бұрын

Wait, are you implying you have accurate information about why Ujimasa Yarikawa sent an assassin on Lord Shimura during his bear hunt with Jin Sakai as a child?

@ramonbarraza117

5 ай бұрын

Yes please ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤#1 🥺🥺🥺

Im kinda disappointed that they didn't lean heavier into the karma choices. Even like a neat semi secret story you get if you do things as honourably as possible. I tried to be as honourable as I could and then when I got to the end and found out it didn't make a difference I was kinda disappointed. It does make me wanna go back through the game and jusy go ham though.

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

It was surprising to see that there was no secret karma ending, seeing as Sucker Punch are well known for their karma system in the inFamous games. Thank you for watching and I hope you have an incredible day!

@kodicasada7034

3 жыл бұрын

I realized before I finished my first play through so I went had it got so much easier

@jacobhand8674

3 жыл бұрын

@@kodicasada7034 playing on the new Lethal difficulty makes the game go really quickly. Even if you're not going ham all the fights are done super quick. One of two good hits on any non boss and bosses are usually maybe 4 or 5 good reads.

@FiendishDr_Wu

3 жыл бұрын

I’m actually glad they went in this direction. I love the Infamous games but I honestly felt like there was no real incentive to play evil other than trophies. Never felt like it fit Cole or Delsin and the evil storylines just made you feel like s**t. Not only that but your skill branch depended on how you played. Play a certain way(I feel most played the hero path) and all those other powers would get locked off. GoT doesn’t “punish” you for playing one way or the other so you can take advantage of all the skills the game has to offer, rather than being forced to play one way to meet an arbitrary honor system.

@JMLjml-dm7dk

3 жыл бұрын

@@FiendishDr_Wu but the black lightning...

Many people don't know this but if you are honourable throughout the gameplay, there is one small easter egg in rhe first mission in jogaku temple where we have to fight the mongol in the frozen lake. The more you assassinate the severe the storm is and the more you're honourable the less severe the storm is.

@franciscoaguillon2540

10 ай бұрын

this one dont check out for me, most my kills up to that point were assassinations and the crowd i had to fight was small

@zosasho8036

10 ай бұрын

@@franciscoaguillon2540he stated the “storm”

@shnark2170

8 ай бұрын

This is actually throughout the entire game. The more stealth you use the more stormy and foggy weather you will have (that director is on record saying this as well)

@Tookieslam

8 ай бұрын

@@franciscoaguillon2540 It don't check out cause you can't read and comprehend for shit.

@gamingnerd0348

8 ай бұрын

​@@shnark2170Which makes sense, becaause hiding in a storm is a whole lot easier than hiding during clear skies But, throwing out of the way for the time being, I loved that the game has a way to make it a bunch of different weather types with the instrument instead of having to be stuck with some random weather Personally, I didn't mind the storm and rain whenever I was being sneaky, but the moment I wanted to be sneaky or do some sight seeing, I'd want it clear so I can appreciate how colourful the game is

Imagine if there was a Honorable Samurai ending, it would mean that Jin Sakai, despite the overwhelming disadvantage of the Mongols actually knowing his strategy and the difference in numbers, he practically soloed the entire Mongol army without fighting underhandedly(admittedly with help from the allies he recruits, without them he could only get so far). That would go hard.

@BaileyPoints

8 ай бұрын

It would've been super cool if Sucker Punch did include a secret ending if the player met a certain criteria for playing as an honourable samurai. Thank you for watching and I hope you have a fantastic day!

@sayanlaha3649

3 ай бұрын

​@@BaileyPointsI think to make a program to check whether the fighter fought with a true samurai code is a challenging task. That's why they didn't add a different conclusion for that...

@MaydayAggro

Ай бұрын

@@sayanlaha3649 they could have made it as simple as checking for which skills you chose. It didn't have to be something like "He used 50% samurai 50% ghost skills during combat, therefore this ending"

@dee_wade

Ай бұрын

The easiest way is just a check counter. Once you go over the unavoidable amount of assassinations and poisons then have a different cutscene. (Haven’t finished this game so idk what those numbers would be)

@177SCmaro

15 күн бұрын

You're right that doing the honorable Samurai fight all the way through with a specific ending would be meaningful but that really wasn't what Sucker Punch wanted. They wanted to force Jin, and so the player, down the path of The Ghost as the main focus of conflict in the story. When Jin's uncle wanted to make him officially his son and heir and was holding that paper from the Shogun over the fire I was like "Jesus Sucker Punch, No! I love Lord Shimura I wanna be a good Samuri! Don't make me do this to him!"

Salute you for the hard work. However my dear friend, Jin Sakai destiny is to be the first Ninja not the last Samurai.

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, it was definitely a struggle to complete the entire story with only the samurai play style. You’re right also, Jin Sakai is the Ghost and is only the start of a new style of combat!

@dragon2eyes_274

3 жыл бұрын

He was the last samurai of tsushima but later have reinforcement of the grand Island

@HEATHENYT

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing all the way through the game

@rememberthatyoumustdie

3 жыл бұрын

Ninjas aren’t as cool as you think. They are literally samurai with pajamas.

@kato093

3 жыл бұрын

@@rememberthatyoumustdie lmao. They are assassins and spies. Samurais with pajamas hahaha. Kinda like marines are just people that eat crayons?

"I will train you to be the greatest warrior the Sakai clan has ever known" -Lord Shimura

@sahil3038

2 жыл бұрын

Yees

@saatvikkalra6061

2 жыл бұрын

I mean he succeeded, so

@keithadams7619

9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, he did. Just not the kind of warrior he had in mind.

@SK-ix8jb

8 ай бұрын

As kratos said to Ares at the end of God of War 1: "You succeeded"

The secret to the story is that, although Lord Shimura doesn't agree with Jin's methods, especially the use of poison, he is only forced to do something about it when the Shogun orders him to. What isn't really explored is why the Shogun makes the decision to be rid of such a valuable asset as Jin Sakai. The truth is, the Shogun is both jealous and afraid of Jin's legend. In medieval Japan, no one was regarded higher than royalty, who were thought to be living gods. Feudal Japan saw several clan wars throughout its history but when a lowly samurai who fights as Jin did for the people of Tsushima his legend and status outgrew that of the Shogun. Jin did what he did to save the people, tarnishing his honour to save lives and ensure the enemy would not win. The people admired that. It's even see that the samurai reinforcements sought to take control of Tsushima from Lord Shimura after the campaign. Lord Shimura's "honour" led to his own decline. And the samurai who were supposed to protect Tsushima all died in a massacre because they charged into battle against a massive, ruthless force and left the people defenseless all in the name of honour. However, if the samurai had set their "honour" aside briefly, used smart tactics and only some tricks Jin had to resort to, the mongols would've never taken Tsushima in the first place and Jin wouldn't have been such a problem.

@inalgasimov3892

Жыл бұрын

I aint reading allat

@Yeettto

11 ай бұрын

@@inalgasimov3892 you should.

@zosasho8036

10 ай бұрын

But the shogun isn’t a holy monarch nor is he regarded as a monarch, thats reserved for the emperor of japan, the shogun probably ordered jin’s execution because of the poison debacle and his tactics being overly dishonorable,

@poppashean4616

10 ай бұрын

@@zosasho8036 the Shogun may not be a holy monarch but the emperor would have the Shogun deal with such a matter

@justinpascua2330

9 ай бұрын

​@poppashean4616 by the time Japan became a shogunate, the Emperor and the royal court were essentially figure heads. The shogun was the one calling the shots

Jins transition from honourable samurai into the ghost was amazing. He watched all his friends die at Komada beach. He watched clan Adachis fall, he witnessed the betrayal of Ryuzo and later on, Taka is murdered and so is his horse. In all those times it became more clear to him that the samurai were useless against the Mongol Empire. The Mongols knew exactly on how to counter the attacks from the samurai and Jin knew that if he wanted to save his homeland he would have to play dirty. In my eyes the end of GOT is a cliffhanger, Jin is a broken man, I imagine he would view himself as a monster and he knows only to kill

@maxverstappennonofficial

2 жыл бұрын

Yes , and the thing that started everything was when he poisoned the mongol army , sparing so many lives that would be in vain because ... Honour.-> bad military strategies.

@lightningbolt171

Жыл бұрын

@@LordCodeEye yeah... But this is a game, a fiction made by people, made of creativity

@lightningbolt171

Жыл бұрын

@@LordCodeEye nah

@lightningbolt171

Жыл бұрын

@@LordCodeEye yeah I know I dont know a lot about the Mongolian invasion to Japan, but I dont think there could be just one man killing all the mongols and giving up to honor. But I know Japanese won against the mongols with a lot of Samurais, and the samurais in tsushima fighted with honor against mongols

@justsomebody5450

Жыл бұрын

@@LordCodeEye no one cares this is a video game based on actual events

There is actually a secret line said if you go samurai route before freeing Shimura. Instead of the whole “you methods were brutal” crap, he says “your father would be proud”

@MrEffectfilms

2 жыл бұрын

Really? Interesting, I plan on replaying new game plus so I'll see if I can trigger it.

@GoKrazyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Yea I got the “your father would be proud” line

@Line-bn8gz

2 жыл бұрын

I dont think so, I made things in a not honorable way and he still said that my father would be proud of me but also says my methods were brutal. He says both

@bielgaucho_real

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, it doesn't make a difference. Up until shimura I barely killed a few under the shadow. And he still says both

@shirtlessdude2935

2 жыл бұрын

He said both for me bru

I’m glad I saw this before completing the whole story again

@spencer9209

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@demonofdeath2020

2 жыл бұрын

Wow I was just gonna go thru an ultimate scam !!!!!! Thanks God I saw this video

@guglielmo_arte_naturale

2 жыл бұрын

So does the honor reset in new game plus? I mean ... I becomed the Ghost in the First gameplay but now i want to play as a true samurai in ng+ can i do that ?

@guglielmo_arte_naturale

2 жыл бұрын

Or you Will Always be and you are meant to be the Ghost ?

@mcmanhattan3411

2 жыл бұрын

@@guglielmo_arte_naturale you ar the GHOST

I wanted assassin's creed to make a japanese or chinese based game with ninjas or samurai but they just made a viking game, but sucker punch productions made my dream come true.

@pat72396

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Ever since assassins creed 2 i wanted a asaian based assassin game. This game is better then i could have imagined and assassins creed game like this being.

@cheese5130

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been wanting that forever but after playing Ghost of Tsushima there really isn’t anything AC could do to top this masterpiece.

@kaydensrevenge

Жыл бұрын

that’s technically what assassins creed chronicles china did

@vhsraid

Жыл бұрын

@@kaydensrevenge I have never heard of it, probably because it was a sub-series.

@CityBoy239305

Жыл бұрын

They have a new one coming out in 2023 samurai assassin creed. Can’t wait.

It really breaks my immersion when i play completely like a samurai (expecting it to be like previous SP games) and people still tell me i have no honor. Specially since the actual combat system is way more fun than playing stealth, which is way too easy.

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

Playing as just a samurai in Ghost of Tsushima is very challenging, but also very rewarding once you clear an area. It was slightly disappointing to find out that playing as a true samurai throughout the entire game and having honor, does not impact the ending. Thank you for watching and I hope you have an incredible day!

@ryanhowe6543

3 жыл бұрын

The game really should have encouraged playing more ghost like later on in the story even when you do side stuff, especially later in act 3

@ruhandave2

3 жыл бұрын

The game is called *Ghost* of Tsushima so.... tbh I prefer to play as the Ghost cuz it is quick and easy, in this way, I can take out more mongols in same amount of time and help free Tsushima quickly (I do sheath my sword and bow in the end to show that the Ghost has some morals).

@shydreameress264

3 жыл бұрын

@@BaileyPoints Jin wouldn't have killed the Khan or even made it this far if he truly stayed honourable*. This is what the game tells you. In times of war, you gotta play dirty if the other side does.

@alldayagain

3 жыл бұрын

I think they were gonna make it like the previous games, but decided against it either to narrow the scope (imagine making two Ghost of Tsushima games just for most to only get one ending) or to prevent them from becoming "the Moral Choice game devs"

I had to parry for a good 30 seconds cause I didn’t wanna fight him at all 😔

@tostik7068

3 жыл бұрын

The ending made me sad

@tostik7068

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t wanna be the ghost :( I wanted to be the Samurai

@tostik7068

3 жыл бұрын

But still a great game

@tostik7068

3 жыл бұрын

Wish there was two endings

@theepidemicoflife6597

3 жыл бұрын

@@tostik7068 there are two endings though

I’m not that surprised that the ending doesn’t really change sucker punch even mentioned that aside from actual gameplay the story is pretty much the same just how you choose to play the game will be different

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

Sucker Punch only said that there was not going to be karma feature that was in the inFamous games. Many people did have questions about what would happen in the end if you only focused on the samurai play style. For the purposes of research and to answer them questions, I decided to do this. It would of been nice to see Sucker Punch have a slight change in the ending such as different dialogue or even a change in a cutscene, but unfortunately there isn’t. Thank you for watching the video and I hope you have a fantastic day!

honestly, i wish you could have chose which path you took, as the ghost, or Lord Sakai/ Shimura, i would have chosen to be a honorable samurai in a heart beat.

@alexdhamp

9 ай бұрын

The game is called the Ghost of Tsushima...not the Samurai of Tsushima. That's on purpose.

So far In my play through I would’ve liked to see much more struggle in Jin that casting aside his code was heart breaking and devastating for him.but to see where the conflict between shimura and Jin spans from my favourite line is “you have no honour” “and you are a slave to it!”

@Zeno-ss7mu

9 ай бұрын

I get it though, Jin isn’t stupid, he’s seen the Mongols first-hand and what they do to honourable samurai, he's had his struggle, especially with his first assassination, but the more you do something the easier it becomes, constantly struggling with becoming the ghost just wouldn't make as much sense

@loserinasuit7880

9 ай бұрын

The Samurai died on the beach. That is Jins philosophy for the rest of the game.

It’s funny that sneaking around is considered so dishonorable in this game. When during the real life invasion, the samurai actually snuck up to the Mongols ships at night, and killed them in their sleep.

@brokensoul8390

7 ай бұрын

They also killed the wounded as well as civilians when they fled. There's no honour in war, AT ALL.

@Zyaphu

7 ай бұрын

Bro, what? The multiple mongol invasions failed because of a typhoon twice

@jessecuevas6456

7 ай бұрын

@@Zyaphu it didn’t take out every single ship in one day, dude. The invasion likely lasted months. Ultimately destroying the majority of the ship fleet for them to call it off.

@jonathanmaldonado7913

6 ай бұрын

Yeah the game heavily romanticizes samurai chivalry. I personally don't see a problem with it since it's just a game and the devs have stated that it's not meant to be super historically accurate. But I always found it funny imagining samurai laughing at Shimura and congratulating Jin if the game were shifted over to a real life setting.

@mrsuntastc

5 ай бұрын

​@@jonathanmaldonado7913I think I remember hearing some samurai from the mainland talking about it when you escape the castle before act 3 one of them says something about Jin being rowdy/uncontrollable and diminishing Shimura's power but that you essentially saved everyone lives by poisoning the mongols and the way they were talking implied they were somewhat grateful since the other solution that Shimura proposed had them run through an heavily defended bridge in the open and opening a gate that would have exploded because the whole bridge/gate were a trap set by the mongols

Before doing the last few story missions, I completed all the side quests and cleared out the remaining camps. A small part of me regrets it because there is nothing to do except find random mongols or bandits roaming the roads.

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, once you 100% the game there is not much to do. I'm just looking forward to Ghost of Tsushima Legends which is releasing later this year. Thank you for watching and I hope you have a fantastic day!

@redthomas8405

3 жыл бұрын

Guys since this was made we have new game + it's so much fun and adds so much replay value

@reee5688

3 жыл бұрын

Same man same I’m so bored but don’t want to restart because I have so many things I wish there was a new game +

@lorenzomurru3898

3 жыл бұрын

@@reee5688 there is

@reee5688

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzomurru3898 really?

This must of been very difficult to do. Well done and thanks for answering this question for us all!

This is totally the kind of game you would expect to have different endings. The ending we did get is fine but i seriously think there should have been more actual choices that influence the ending.

It makes sense though, that how you played yourself wouldn't change this story. As you said, there are a handful of missions and cut scenes that force your hand and make you do dishonorable things. Most of those things, however, were never witnessed by any other samurai and so it would be possible that Jin could have simply denied they ever happened. But the two moments you mentioned that are most damning to Jin are when he poisons the two soldiers before cutting the general's head off from behind and the incident when Jin poisons the entire Mongol garrison are both witnessed first-hand by Lord Shimura and the army of samurai sent by the Shogun. And unfortunately, those two acts alone would be enough dishonor to have warranted the penalty Jin ultimately has to face in the end. I'd like to think that maybe if Shimura alone had witnessed these things that he may have looked the other way and hid them from the Shogun. But when the army of loyal Shogun samurai saw it all too, well, they're certainly not going to just let Jin off with a slap on the wrist. It was a noble effort to see what would happen, but unfortunately, this game's story is basically linear (and that's not a bad thing in this case; as the game was never marketed under the presumption that your choices and gameplay would effect the story).

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, the story is very linear and the only choice that matters is the final decision. This only impacts the end game, such as what colour Ghost armour you receive, camp you have and Yuna’s dialogue. I thought to answer many questions people may of had, if they focused and followed the true samurai play style, I would make this video. Thank you for watching and I hope you have a fantastic day!

@project_ronin4789

3 жыл бұрын

No the reason he was to be executed was because the people rallied behind him and not the shogun

@schubs122

3 жыл бұрын

Very well said.

I just played the mission where you secure the forge. Taka said to me "I've never seen a samurai fight like that" while looking horrified, or sickened. The entire fight, I stood outside and fought people with my sword, and used my bow on the archers. I've been playing like a samurai, only doing otherwise when forced to by the game. I've found it disappointing how little that choice matters. The game still treats me like Jin is a ninja, constantly lurking in shadows and stabbing people in the back. I would have loved a karma system in the game, staying loyal to the samurai's Bushido code or fighting like The Ghost, with a different ending for each. I can only hope the railroading was to set up a sequel. To be fair though, the ending is hauntingly, mythically tragic, it was like watching an ancient legend be retold.

@infamouschad8650

Жыл бұрын

The only changes I've notice is in mission called "massage on fire". If you unlock the ghost stance first and use it during combat, Lord Shimura will respond "well struck, Lord Sakai" etc. Kinda neat tho...

@stkutu

Жыл бұрын

You talking about rdr2 :)

@Crow_Yes

9 ай бұрын

To be fair, the game wasn't supposed to give you the choice. As in sections where you can't decide how to play, it is always Jin's choice to use ghost tactics. So it was always intended to become more and more the ghost throughout the game, never to stay the Samurai.

@Floaydi

9 ай бұрын

I have a question for the people who did this in game (can't find any answers on the internet). In the mission where you have to save Jin's uncle, there are two guards near him, you can kill the first one with shoji assassination or open the door and fight, I personally opened the door and fought but what does the uncle say if you shoji assassination the guards?

@loserinasuit7880

9 ай бұрын

Imagine being this stupid. "I purposefully ignored gameplay mechanics despite the game clearly telling me to use them because I thought the grand narrative was supposed to conform to my choices." Not every story is a choose your own adventure campaign.

They should’ve had a karma system like RDR2, the more you use stealth, poison, etc, the more you become the Ghost. The more you just fight and stand-off etc, the more you become a samurai

@AsP3cT.199

4 күн бұрын

Way way way too late but I'm just furious that the cowboy game got an honor system but not the samurai game.

This must of been very hard to do Bailey. Great work and thanks for the content!

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

It was very hard, but definitely worth it. Thanks for watching the video and I hope you have a fantastic day!

Its a shame but oh well, heres hoping for a sequel

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

Let's hope so. I have a few ideas that I would really like to see in a sequel. The game has so much potential to create an incredible game franchise. Thank you for watching the video and I hope you have a great day!

@thomaschaumeil3878

3 жыл бұрын

@@BaileyPoints The Ghost VS The Shogun... would be nice to have as a sequel

@Doraemon-vj5he

3 жыл бұрын

@@thomaschaumeil3878 nah he would never kill a samurai as technically he still is a samurai

@Deweyscape

3 жыл бұрын

@@Doraemon-vj5he I mean technically clan Sakai is disbanded so...

@Doraemon-vj5he

3 жыл бұрын

@@Deweyscape it is but he still has some respecc for samurai's so I don't believe jin will ever kill a samurai

This mission hit us with that father son time just to give us the most heart breaking plot twist in the game

@alexdhamp

9 ай бұрын

I knew something was coming even before he confronted Jin...it felt too much like a farewell the whole time...

Thank you so much for making this! I wondered about this ever since the game came out!

Thank you for the hard work legend

I was about to do this before i saw this video, glad it exists, its a good video

Did you know Lord Shimura actually compliments your strikes when your in ghost stance?

@Blackforrest_samurai

2 жыл бұрын

Really

@mylifeisacomplexpastiche7901

2 жыл бұрын

Mongols: “GHOOOOOST!” Lord Shimura: “That’s right, you’re toast!”

I like how when you spare your uncle, your new home has pleasant weather and it's peaceful. But if you murder your uncle, your new home is dark, stormy and chaotic. Nice little touch there to show the difference between right and wrong. Like why kill your family? There was no need for it. 🙂

@thetyguy09

8 ай бұрын

The cool color

@tootbender6935

8 ай бұрын

I really wanted the White Ghost outfit so I could be more immersed when sneaking around in snowy areas , but man I felt horrible making Jin Kill him.

@kyliesmith9199

6 ай бұрын

@@tootbender6935 I killed Shimura, but not with honor in mind. I killed him since he was a dick to Jin, but boy did it hurt to see Jin cry. I felt terrible after too.

@digbar7913

6 ай бұрын

Can you only get it by killing Shimura?​@@tootbender6935

@EclipseHedgehog

5 ай бұрын

the shogun would have forced lord shimura to commit seppuku so he'd be done either way.

Sparing lord Shinra has more emotional weight that killing him

I have no honor, but i will not kill my family-Ghost

Had this thought too, but figured it was gonna stay the same since there wasnt many moment you could make any decisions besides the mission were u save the husband or the monk... hopefully the new game gives us more choices!

I’ve asked what if I’ll play like a samurai entire game. So, you did it for us, thank you!

Man it was hard not to cry when Jin had to kill lord Shimura

@kyliesmith9199

6 ай бұрын

I wanted to hug him so bad when I made him do that. Everything he went through was hard af.

Jin’s cry hunts me when he kills Lord Shimura.

Thanks I just got to time to start this and want was wondering about it u save me a lot of time

I just finished the game the first time, in Kurosawa mode. I can't wait to replay it and see these beautiful colors

Love the content btw

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I'm glad you enjoy the content!

Sorry for not tuning in I’ve been a usual but i had a slight eye problem so I couldn’t watch any devices but I finally can

Hats off for the dedication research my good sir 🫡

@BaileyPoints

8 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

This is the confirmation I needed to show that all my stealth and point blank range arrow kills served a meaningful purpose 🤣

That white fit is so sick tho. The only reason I wanna go back and end Lord Shimura so I can get that one

They really knocked it outta the park with this game. The beautiful scenery and music and camera angles and positions. Just wow. I really hope they keep this going with another game sooner than later.

I’ve beat this game a few times and could never bring myself to kill him lol

Appreciate your commitment bro 💐💯✌️

@BaileyPoints

29 күн бұрын

Thanks dude!

Ive completed this game very recently and chose to spare shimura. I find it quite interesting that even if you kill him nothing really changes because that is the legend youve built as the ghost and to the shogun you are nothing but a traitor that will be hunted forever. Jin lost literally everything to save his people but he broke free of a code that would have destroyed him. Seeing this kind of makes me wish there was some alternate path or ending if youve played as nothing but a samurai, but i think it would kind of ruin the story they were trying to tell here. That being said for everyone that did play as a pure samurai to still get called dishonourable and a traitor by lord shimura, I can understand why some are very disappointed by this ending. The khan knew all the samurais tactics and how their traditions are purely honour bound so he knew exactly how to exploit it. The only thing he didnt account for was jin becoming the ghost since he realised to beat his enemy he must adapt which is what shimura and his samurai failed to do. What got me the most is you can see the pain in shimuras' eyes at what jin has become.. he doesn't want to do this but he must appease the shogun or his clan will be destroyed too If anything jin sakai's samurai days are over, but as the ghost hes almost became the first ninja. Its a great story maybe one day we will get a sequel to the ghost.

I cannot wait for the eventual sequel. I'd love to see what happens when the Ghost legends gets out of control. Also it would be a nice change of pace if there actually WAS a demon in the forest at some point lol.

Hi, I got the game a few days ago and have been avidly playing since hoping to complete it. It wasn't until the "Find Yukio's wife and sister" mission in Komatsu Forge, and, upon my assassination of a Mongol soldier from a rooftop, that I see a flashback of Lord Shimura telling young Jin to not stray from the Samurai path and not use Ghost tactics. After that I started to reevaluate my actions ingame.

would have loved to see a samurai ending, but i do think the lack of it is to better set up a sequel

I like your determination good luck young samurai

If they made this a series, it would be spectacular. Like a Kurosawa tour de force

i've seen lot of people complaining bout the fact that there is no secret ending but it makes sens for a couple of reasons... 1. This game is more like a movie than anything else, guess what ? you don't change the outcome of a movie. 2. The whole game is based around that dilemma between what you've been taught and what NEED's to be done. Facing an army alone or with a couple of buddy head on like the bushido dictate would mean end of the game before it even starts... FFS The intro proves that fighting using only honor would just bring death to everyone... they tried to fight head on with 80 samurai, lost one instantly by sending adachi sama to his death for no reason (jin even had to lie to masako about his death lol), the rest got trashed and the only reason jin survived was because of yuna... Also, the first time we have to kill someone with stealth it's mentioned that we cannot go gun blazing because there is an hostage, if the npc in the game were not that stupid you would not even be able to reach the cage before they would kill him therefore the "honor" would bring death of the innocent you swore to protect. it's actually funny that shimura kept thinking that the bushido would save the people he swore to protect when when he heard the khan or whatever his name is litteraly say "i know all about you including how you fight and how to counter you all" ... so to me no, having a secret ending where we fought with honor is stupid because it would mean sacrificing many life's, hostage and people who wanted to help even tho they were not samurai... throwing away these life is no honourable thing.

@lagudoufu

11 күн бұрын

Could at least make the voicelines at least pretend the player is doing stuff instead of following a script, for example when you free Shimura and fight alongside him and allies, if you do ghost stuff he will still compliment you as if you were playing normally, another example during the escorting family to forge the NPCs will always be scared of the protagonist's fighting style regardless of what they did, etc. If you did the quest for mongol armour nobody cares if you wear it even though the protag remarks how he wonders what his uncle would think of it after completing the quest and donning said armour, it might as well be a movie because god damn does it not give a damn what the player does

I've been doing my best to play honorable. Nothing gives me feelings of power quite like challenging some Mongol camp to a standoff then wrecking all of them.

I think jin sakais fathers armor is designed after one of the support characters in the movie, The Last Samurai in which tom cruise is the main character.

god that ending will never not be chilling

i did this on my 1st playthrough and i remember the disappointment when jin just started saying dishonorable stuff in every cutscene after ive done everything right

Great stuff 👏

@BaileyPoints

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much and I am happy that you enjoyed the video. I hope you have a fantastic day!

I fought hard for this ending!

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

You really did!

@nautieyes7418

3 жыл бұрын

Is this the real jin sakai I am a big fan

@faz0ulz

3 жыл бұрын

Nauti Eyes no he’s not the real Jin... Jin is not real he’s a factional character..., and he’s a wannabe Jin

@cooperahrend4751

3 жыл бұрын

@@faz0ulz r/whoosh

@RookCity94

2 жыл бұрын

@@faz0ulz Geez, you're fun at parties I bet

Wow, what a struggle. You the real MVP!

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

It was a huge struggle. Thanks for watching and I hope you have an incredible day!

I’m so sad and mad at these endings

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

It's odd that Sucker Punch went for a choice given ending, rather than an ending based on your honor which they are known for from the Infamous games. Let's just hope that we got this ending to lay the foundation for the story in Ghost of Tsushima 2 and that game follows an honor system. Thanks for watching this video and I hope you have a fantastic day!

@kazunaekas5228

3 жыл бұрын

@@BaileyPoints yeah I agree and you too

Bro I’m kinda mad that they didn’t at least give us a choice to what path we want to take.

I love that most people use the ronin outfit on this mission, it makes it so much better and I was wondering if it was just me

@poschraphael7

2 ай бұрын

The game forces you to wear the Ronin set. You can't change it for the entire mission sadly. But it makes sense, as you said.

@kaydenwalker3696

2 ай бұрын

@@poschraphael7 really? I never knew

I kinda want to just play as a samurai and be honorable so I don’t break the family’s code but the melee combat is just pretty fun

Wow! Grate work on the Samurai rundown on what if!!! It is very easy to say now?. Lord Shemura with all his loving words WAS deceptive to the end. He wanted Jin to fold. And concede him back to being head ruler of Tsushima island by letting him take his head. He was plotting against Jin the whole time. I believe he made a deal with the board of the Samurai leaders in Japan to keep him as leader and disband Jin’s clan. Because His honor got upended. After all it was Lord Shemura that got all of the clans wiped out, except for HIMSELF in the first battle. It was lord Shemura that got by way of a petitioned letter sent to JAPAN, for a support group of Samurai ONLY TO TURN AROUND AND GET THE MAJORITY OF THEM?, ALL KILLED on the bridge in the Second battle. What are the odds of THAT??? And?, he managed to get himself captured. 🫨🤔 What are the odds of THAT! AND AND AND ??!! Lord Shemura didn’t lift one friggen finger to bring any of the people of Tsushima or Iki island together as a united front against the Mongals. Yet he loved to holler this and that about his honor. 🫤 Truth be told I believe he sold out to the Mongals. Then tried to get the shogun in Japan to take part in the MONGALS deal. That’s until the last Mongal warlord CAME UP DEAD WITH HIS HEAD LOPPED OFF. By THE GHOST!!! So he convinced the Samurai of Japan to let him return to Tsushima and kill Jin and let himself to go ahead and train the shogun to fight like Jin. 🫣😱. WHY? Because JIN and all his people MOST LIKELY would have dealt with them like they dealt with the Mongals. ESPECIALLY if the shogun decided to go after Jin. So he decided to appease Jin with deception in order to kill him. The one thing lord Shemura got wrong? HE DID NOT TAKE NOTICE OF WHO JIN BECAME after all that Jin went through and become. He foolishly believed he could actually beat Jin. It was an UH OH moment for lord Shemura , when dat a** got tagged on the first hit… The Jin he once knew? Was no more. The new JIN GHOST?, was a Super Sayin of reckoning…. 🫡👍🔥👍👊 He never wavered for the people of Tsushima or Iki island.

i watched this video as soon as i could assassinate in the game once i found out there is no secret end i just killed everyone steathy

Ghost of Tsushima is truly the one game that no matter what you do Jin is labeled a traitor. The sequel if they do ever make one, I hope they add a choice system like what they did in the Infamous series. Where good or bad choices changes how the people treat you and how the environment changes. If there was a choice system and Jin choose to be honorable then the ghost being the story to inspire the people of tsushima would be pointless. But it would be cool to see how the Shimura would react to his nephew/son being either the honorable Samurai or the dishonorable killer who wins a battle at all costs.

Suckerpunch could have implemented the 'choice' system. But I guess they wanted to tell the story which fit best for the options offered.

Yeah I was about to play full samurai but figured I'd look it up first

Thanks for trying haha , i eagerly expected some hidden secret ending but i guess there is just 1 ending , i don't think devs will ever make a hidden ending as the game is named ghost of Tsushima and canonically Jhin becomes the ghost as he does what he must to survive and save his people

I stared at the screen for 5 minutes because I didn’t want to choose

@BaileyPoints

8 ай бұрын

Some say you are still staring at this screen today.

Just recently found out that Jin’s JP VA also does Zoro from One Piece and Mugen from Samurai Champloo

Historical the Mongol invasion in Tsushima actually was a changing point for the Samurai and Jepan in general Back then, a Japanese battlefield used to look like 1vs1 duals all over the place with some archers shouting names and sniping enemies Yet when the mongols came, they took everything the Samurai has lived by for thousands of years and Smashed into their faces, which gave birth to a new profession for Samurais, a Shinobi a master of ninjtesu experts in gorilla warfare. So yeah, Jin is fated to walk this path, or no one will

The poison, stabbing in the back etc upsets your Uncle, but Jin looses everything because the Shogun now see's him and those who follow him as a threat, so playing honorable would make no difference.

I think depending on how you fight in certain missions the NPCs will react and call you a monster if you use non samurai tactics. Like in the mission where you secure the Forge for Taka.

@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human

Жыл бұрын

I just played the mission where you secure the forge. Taka said to me "I've never seen a samurai fight like that" while looking horrified, or sickened. The entire fight, I stood outside and fought people with my sword, and used my bow on the archers. I've been playing like a samurai, only doing otherwise when forced to by the game. I've found it disappointing how little that choice matters. The game still treats me like Jin is a ninja, constantly lurking in shadows and stabbing people in the back.

@yourmicrowave7112

Жыл бұрын

@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human dang

i think, to be safe, only use y / triangle attacks, because you can execute someone who is staggered accidentally if you do a normal attack, whcih also counts as dishonorable

Part of me wishes i'd known my general use of the ghost skills wouldn't matter to the narrative, because there is a whole side of the game I just never engaged with. And part of me is glad the game fooled me into thinking my combat choices mattered because I was so immersed. It was a totally different experience playing than I would have had otherwise.

apparently if you meet some guy later on , if you spare lord shimura , the guy will mention that lord nshimura died or something

Don’t know about anyone else but I killed lord Shimura because he’s the reason the horse died

i’m about to go to the top section of the map and i’ve been trying to stick by the honor code my whole time playing/: feels bad that it was for nothing

An option for an honorable ending is what this game needed to achieve perfection

It’s impossible to kill him then glad you posted this video I always wanted to know what if

Hey thx Bailey finished it yesterday😃

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

I’m glad you enjoyed. What do you think of the game? Thank you for watching and I hope you have a great day!

@croweyjoey2371

3 жыл бұрын

BaileyPoints I thought it was a amazing experience I was invested in the story from start to finish I love the combat I love the content you’re making thx!

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

Good to hear. I'll keep posting the very best content and thank you for your continuous support!

Master piece 👌

didn't think there were different ending like... actual cutscenes and shit. was expecting that 😭

I'm glad I didn't choose that. It feels like a canon ending based on Jin's character

Two souls, one fueled with revenge and the other fueled with pain… -zanny

I did this when the game first came out

I havent even played the game or know to much about lord shimura but when you kill him i almost cried

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

It is a very emotional moment in the game. Thank you for watching the video and I hope you have a great day!

It is a shame that they didn't lean more into the Karma choices as this would be the perfect game for it. I like to imagine that Jin was able to continue to be a Honorable Samurai and inevitably we got the ending where Sakai was elevated to be legendary due to Jin's sacrifices. As cool as it would sound, they made the ending work both ways, as you get to choose to follow the Samurai's code one last time by giving Shimura a warriors death or by committing seppuku, either way feels just. For me personally I like the fact that Jin was what Tsushima needed, not wanted. The Samurai Methods were completely useless against the Mongols and as such someone needed to sacrifice their honor to save everyone else. Jin Followed his Fathers Guidance in his heart.

i'm a little disapointed that the ending or the cutscenes don't really change unlike in games like spiderman web of shadows or red dead its kind of a missed opportunity you could play honorable and face the consequences good or bad or dishonorable and face those consequences be loyal to lord shimura or fight with terror and poison and be an anti hero.

@BaileyPoints

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. I very much enjoyed the story, but I would of liked to see the games dialogue or cutscenes change based on your play style. However, the story is very linear and your play style has no actions. Something that I should mention, is that Sucker Punch recently confirmed that the weather will change to stormy weather when you use more of the Ghost tactics, which is very surprising. Maybe the story is like this, because Sucker Punch are planning on creating a sequel and they needed this story to be here for Jin’s origin. Thank you for watching and I hope you have a fantastic day!

In my first play through i actually played the samurai way but i got confused why they still calling me the ghost, then when i reached the part where youll get disowned by shimura thats when i played the ghost way because i cant even stop the story

I love this game. It was so well written, the soundtrack especially when you get ghost mode for the first time chasing the mongels. The one thing I could not stand and I had it when games do this is the enemy tracking. The teleporting or gliding. You clearly dodge an attack and the enemy just nanchalantly redirects towards you or floats towards you. This only happened on the higher difficulties because they didn't want peole to just dodge easily out of the way but that is so stupid that they did that. When you get chased by a spearmans thrust for like 50yards because the game is programed to have the enemies attack to hit you unless you do a PERFECT dodge is annoying as hell. I can't count how many times I've dodge an attack only for the enemy to redirect while coming down to hit me or to track me even though I dodged behind them. Still amazing game but I pray they remove enemy tracking. You can make games difficult without purposely programming in heat seeking missle meelee attacks.

They should add a option to stay with the samurai or become the ghost

@honoredmikee

3 жыл бұрын

I would choose samurai

@alexiosmonary3388

3 жыл бұрын

There is that option can you guess what it is Killing youre uncle and honoring his death like a samurai or spare him and disregard his wish like a ghost

@jaydenntobias1814

4 ай бұрын

If there's a part where you can choose to be a samurai, that will result in abandoning your bond with Yuna and seeing her as an outlaw

Lets all aprecciate how beautiful it is Just walking in this game on the forest is amazing pluss the ending where you kill your uncle OMG i have never in my life cry over a video game but this one really hit my heart is sad if you play it on jappanese with english sub im really hoping the make another game is Just beautiful 🙌

“I don’t want to hurt you” Stabbing increases

For a moment I thought that avoiding stealth kills would change the game's lore any bit, but nope it doesn't Which is a relief for me, since I can use stealth and commit sweet stealth kills without any penalty, but I still prefer the loud gameplay (just like Jin said, samurai's life shouldn't be easy)

They need to make a honorable ending

@BaileyPoints

2 ай бұрын

Hopefully there is a karma system in Ghost of Tsushima 2!

According to DLC it seems Lord Shimura survived. The game foces you to spare Shimura from the Iki DLC. Which was also my choice to spare Lord Shimura because like what the Shogun and Lord Shimura told Jin. He was no longer a Samurai and the Sakai clan was disbanded so its only reasonable to turn your back and be a fugitive.