Im liking the honesty, its good to hear someone say, 1 to 3 year old pretty much similar as long as premium brand, i always enjoy your content, little bit more in depth

Just bought myself an ex-demo Stealth 1 from my club pro for £235. Head is in great condition and really delighted that it stands up against the Stealth 2 on performance and I think the original looks better. Happy days and great review. #170mph

I've got the original stealth plus last week after coming from the rogue st max and I've never been a taylormade driver fan but honestly i can safely say it's the most confidence inspiring driver I've ever bagged. Got the 10.5 with the evenflow riptide 70 shaft and it's a fairway finder for me. I like the compact head shape and honestly prefer the original stealth matt head compared to the new gloss version

Happy New Year Mark. My best to you and the family. I miss they days when you introduced a new vide in the kitchen grabbing a cup of morning motivation. Cheers.

I got the stealth 2 fitting kit today and was very very impressed with the ball speeds and distance. Also the noise was lovely. I will be gaming this driver year. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

It’s fast

You are the reason I have to buy and try these clubs. So much joy from a great club being struck well

i've got the original steath plus used it for a year got fitted today for steath 2 for me it looks better and sounds better amazing driver can't wait until the 17th of Feb until i can get it on the course

Love the honesty of saying you would get one a year or two back. Exactly what I did and saved a bunch of $

I love it. It takes real power, when breaking tee's. Great video

Your content just keeps getting better 👍🏼

We’ll done on the 170ish! I enjoy the comparisons based on stats. As you say, among these three drivers, you can’t separate them without a lot of golf balls.

When we getting a driver bracket test. Love the honesty in your reviews. Keep up the great content

Nice review Mark. Appreciate your honesty. Seems like the previous year driver on sale, every 3-4 years of the play.

I'm 28 handicap I love my stealth hd from last year and it's helping me love to test the new one

Excellent review as always 👏

I got Sim 2 last year rather than Stealth for the reasons you say Mark. I reckon by the time Stealth 4 or Paradigm 3 is out I will be ready to change again . Love your reviews the truth cuts through the tech speak ❤

@Trump2024Kentucky

Жыл бұрын

I got the Stealth 2 Max for the same reasons and it works for me and saved a ton of $$$. Basically half the price.

I'm getting the Stealth 2 plus, but it will be through warranty, as my Stealth plus developed a bald spot on the face. I do agree with you on preferring the matte over the glossy finish on top.

I like the look of the gloss finish, plus, it's much easier to repair scratches on a gloss finish.

I have been hitting the PXG last season and still in the bag. I don't see it coming out of the bag very soon. Love this driver. And the cost is much more easy on the wallet.

Quality as always

Matte black looks better to me. Not sure about the lipstick thing… Red face isn’t a turnoff for me, but I like the “solid” comments. Stability appeals to me. I’ll see where the old one is priced on the secondhand market. I did like hitting that old one… Always love the club reviews Mark!

Great review as per mark

Mark…I know you’re going to give it to me straight in regards to if I should purchase this club. Keep doing that. When I truly need to know about a club I look for your thoughts.

Great honest review as always Mark, still gaming my Sim 2 not ready to switch yet.

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Great vid Mark! Would be interesting to see a comparison to the TM M4 released last year for half the price

Enjoyed this review a lot, both because it was a down-the-middle review and very little discussion of marketing guff and issues with TM marketing.

Great review

Would love to see this up against the Ping g430 LST. Also I’m loving the podcast at the moment, it gets better and better with each episode!

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for listening

@John-boy22

Жыл бұрын

I second that. up against the g430 lst. in fact why not do a battle with all the new clubs against each other.

Hi Mark, what would come out comparing it to sim 2 ? They are now very interesting price wise ! I would love to see a comparaison! Happy new year

I switch between 2 drivers currently: The Stealth+ and the TSR4. The Stealth+ is really solid, been a monster off the tee and I have a lot of confidence in it. I don't see the Stealth+ 2 being that much better than what I am getting now, but I love reviews like this. Keep up the awesome content!

@Jr_5646

Жыл бұрын

Stealth+ is a solid driver. I wouldn't say it's forgiving, but it's definitely a little more forgiving then the TSR4. TSR4 MOI is around 4100 gcm² whereas the stealth+ is around 4,600 (similar to TSR3). Stealth 2+ they say will be slightly more forgiving, but I doubt it would be worth the upgrade. It will probably sit in the 4800 range. That's right where the old sim 2 was, and to me the designs look very similar.

Yay!!! Well done, a very realistic and practical review. I like the gloss finish, but I go back to a shiny Spalding TopFlite driver, which started shiny and, by the time that it was replaced by an original Lynx Predator (shiny!) driver, was matt! Great review. Would you play it in preference to the Srixon/Cleveland you're currently playing? No? Thought not, but an interesting, and fair review. Thank you.

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

Th ask for the comment. 👍👍

Great videos as always, I thing the shiny is better

Sensible reflections for once, thanks Mark. Unless I find something akin to a magic wand I’m going to try and improve my technique rather than my driver.

Stealth 2 vs m2 comparison would be good. M2 been a fantastic driver and now cheap. Is there now enough difference to upgrade. Thank you for all the content

Mark, I was sitting here on lunch rewatching this video... because it's fun watching you try for the magical 170 ball speed. I was just thinking if you got a Taylormade fitting. Then put that shaft in Stealth 2 and SIM or SIM 2 I'd be interested to see the results. How good is Taylormade's final effort with a Titanium face vs its most recent effort with a Carbon face.

Taylormade Stealth 2 plus vs ping g430 lst I generally hit 2-4 degrees up and around the 170 mph ball speed. Even hitting up on it I still struggle with spin creeping above 2500. these are the two clubs that I’m considering. The problem is In a fittings I have found I will generally be sold whatever brand offers the best incentive to the shop/fitter. (Currently play a 10.5 sim which I think is part of the issue as a 9 degree would be better suited). Cheers bruhhh!

Hey Mark great video, the multiple Rope based training devices I’ve invented don’t really seem to indicate the same results when i train with MY new Stealth 2…. Maybe mine has a factory error??? Can’t be the ropes….. maybe you could send me the three clubs you used and I’ll tell you my results!

Looks very nice 👌🏼

Please can you compare the M4 driver with the stealth as they are still both available and current models. Thanks, loving the content as always

Just an idea, but I like to rate my driver choice based on two things- I could go to any course and be confident of keeping the ball in play and then also its ability to respond to the go for it drive and get another 10 yards carry. Can you do a test for your driver of say 20 balls under target pressure ( 18th at PB maybe like you did in the past) get a strokes gained/lost and 10 balls going for it at a wide open par 5 and get strokes gained number and combine?

I found sim² really easy to aim with at address. The stealth lasted 2 weeks before I went back to my sim² just because it didn't have that contrast on the top to make itbeasy to aim... I hope the gloss top and matt front bar make Stealth² easier to aim

I agree, Mark. I like the look of the mat finish over the shiny finish. The new one looks cheap and plastic

I understand that you have some ‘history’ with TM where they sort of fell out with you but to be fair, you always give them a good kick of the ball.

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

My reviews are about you guys not these companies. TM got upset and that’s cool. In my opinion

Out of interest can you compare the old old drivers, for example the TM R9 to the new stealth and the ping g5 to the new ping 430 etc. Would love to see how much extra forgiveness or yards they have actually gained over the last 15 years lol

Parfield's speed quest is now my favourite thing on KZread bra! 3:24

Agree that Mat finish looks best !

Love the Stealth driver. They go far and stay straight 💯🔥

I like the mat finish

Scratch golfer here been playing the max draw model for 2 years. Not sure why people think they are only for high handicappers or big slicers. It’s more about the stock shaft than it is the actual head.

Would it be worth getting for someone who only got the stealth last year?

From your stats, it looks like the S2+ went slightly further mainly due to the lower spin rate. That could be the clubhead/weight setting or maybe even the shaft (or shaft setting). It does show that especially for a better player an effort to "fine tune" the club can make a difference. For the rest of us? Hard to say.....

Would like to see the heads up with Stealth 2 plus and SIM 2 . Would really like to know if you think it’s a good upgrade

Thanks for the video, and apologies if this has been asked. But what do you consider a 'modern driver?'

Thx for comparing original stealth also. Have really enjoyed mine but couldn’t hit the plus to save my life.

Matte finish is for me!

I use a Cobra F8. worth changing?

Did you notice the head sit flatter than the previous version? That was supposedly an update. You did mention it wasn't as fade bias.... I like that you do see a ball speed increase, that's all that matters.

@justinschonbak671

Жыл бұрын

Thats what drives me crazy about the original stealth! The toe sitting up as it does. I have a Titleist TS2 and it’s sits perfectly when looking down at the club head.

Even though you’ve blocked me on Twitter (grumpy so and so!) you’re still the best club reviewer out there!

Good to see a TM Review from you Mark

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

Haha not sent from them.

@chrissearle6168

Жыл бұрын

Imo there loss as your reviews are best on YT

at 3:43 the screen moves before the ball? Is the screen output put in at editing stage? edit: it definitely is put in after. A for effort!

Nice to see the old versus the new. Much better comparison. Should always do this as it shows that its almost pointless for the average golfer to just buy new.

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏

@miked.7722

Жыл бұрын

The problem with buying a yr or 2 old is getting fit. sure you can pay less on a slightly used driver, Callaway has a great site. BUT how do you get fit for an old used driver. I suppose you could pay $100+ to get fit and then look for a used driver with the same shaft as the one you were fitted for. And this yr I don't think Callaway with Paradym would work. Also many fitting shops will not charge for the fitting if you buy the driver. so then the cost of the driver effectively goes down by $100+.

@ZiPolishHammer

Жыл бұрын

@@miked.7722 Get fitted and buy new once to find a shaft that suits your game and a loft that you should generally be playing. Then buy used from then on at the loft that suits your game and just swap the shaft in. This is the way surely

@michaelrood2751

Жыл бұрын

@@miked.7722 try a store like second swing.

@stevethomas4310

Жыл бұрын

@@miked.7722 I agree. My point is that, taking the Stealth as an example, you can buy both at the moment so you would try both and if as I expect there is no difference, then you get the mark one but at a lower price than the new. Marks's excellent video shows there is no difference even at his swing speed so at an average golfer wont tell any difference. Also, many golfers change drivers on the basis of the publicity they see. If more U Tube coaches gave a real comparison then they might make more cost effective decisions.

Have you experimented with the slightly taller Orange Castle?

Enjoy your review vids, 170 is on the way I'm sure!! I have a TM M1...how much am I losing compared to these new ranges now? If its less than 10yds on average it might not be worth it...10+ is definitely something to consider!

@richardhowe9703

Жыл бұрын

That's a great shout. I'm currently gaming the 2017 M2. Love my driver but always wandered if the I'm missing out form the sim to this new batch?

@canyonaro

Жыл бұрын

On center strikes, zero yards. The new ones are a better at keeping speed up on off-center hits, especially in the high toe direction.

I kinda like the glossy crown with the red trim. I wish they would bring back the good ole silver faces

Are we going to get a comparison video of everything you've tested so far?

I've got an original m4 driver and love it. Don't see any reason to 'upgrade' aside from looks/feels

Interested to know how far back in Taylormade do you go before seeing significant drop offs! Is R9, M2, M6??? Mark would love to see the results

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

Like it.

@JohnTheAussie23

Жыл бұрын

@@MarkCrossfield I still have an M2 Mark. Just put my spare cash into a new Xbox instead. I don't see anything here to get me to upgrade. Love to see comparisons of the older of the *new* generation drivers with these releases.

Shiny driver for me for the pop.

Been playing a blue face with gloss top. Maybe the first year I’m not going to switch

how is it compared to the older M4?

I would like to see a comparison between the stealth 2 and the sim 2

.I am 58 years old....swing speed of 90-94 mph...hit a fairly straight high ball...... 2800 - 3200 spin ...currently using a Tensei blue raw 55 regular shaft...44 1/2 inches long with a midsize grip..10.5 degree head.....which of the following shaft would you recommend....VENTUS TR RED 5 or Kai'li red 60 or UST Proforce V2 ? or would i be better off going to the Ventus blue or Kai'li blue cause of spin ? also would a 9 degree head most likely bring my spin down ?.....thx....very interested in your thoughts..... cheers from Canada ( I am unable to go for a fitting so i need to build this on the fly )

what would be your best value for money for what you get in your opinion, top 5 drivers in the last five years (not including this years releases) as brand new drivers are very expensive

Can u test it against the sim 2’s ?

I hitted 175mpg the last time with my pxg 0211😎

Just me who ducked when the tee came flying towards the camera lol 😆

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

Haha

@tomzookeeper

Жыл бұрын

​@@MarkCrossfield Mark out of curiosity, would love to see a comparison between these new drivers and ones from like 4-5 years ago. I spend all my time telling myself and my mates the technology is the same it's not allowed to "advance" because of the rules. Like stealth vs m2 or paradigm vs epic flash.

I find it interesting that TM, Callaway & Cobra have all gone with the gloss top, but a matte stripe at the front. Personally, that puts off a bit. Rather all gloss or all matte.

insanely consistent standard deviation numbers on your delivery numbers there, my god!

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

😉

Mark, you had the 170 today if not for the hoodie! Another cup of coffee and lose the sleeves...et voila!

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

Haha so true.

Is there any difference between stealth 1 and 2 mmm I'm not sure 🤔 I don't think golfer s will be rushing out to buy it

Love TM drivers, like cally drivers. The adapter on callaway leaves the grip straight. Bizarre that it decides the choice on a £600 driver for me. I need to get out more…

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

Haha 😂

As I've just picked up the originl stealth plus for £250 in mint condition it looks like I've made the right choice not buying the stealth 2 👍

That’s a proper Taylormade review! 😂

Stealth 2 Plus vs TSR3, TSR4, Paradym TD, G430 LST, and Aerojet LS please :)

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

👍

The New stealth is the old stealth with a few changes in colors . I think next year the carbon face is no longer there . They really couldn’t change it to much this year cause of the hype of it , and the old stealth would plummet in value. Just a classic stall tactic to give them another year to come out with a better version. ..JMO

Begging you please to drag out an old TM AEROBURNER, which was the last best driver TM produced before the stupid twist face! Thank you!

Matt finish all day long sun light hits a glossy finish and its not fun . Can you compare it to the sim2

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

Yep I agree

Ignore the BS Mark and keep doing what you are doing. Rightly or wrongly I think you say what you think and I appreciate that!

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I do these for you guys and girls.

How about comparing the stealth 2 to the M2 from 2017 (my driver)?

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a test.

Probably the best reviewer on the internet 👍

@simonhuss9619

Жыл бұрын

On the planet

Would like to see comparison with Titleist range now they have TSR 1 out.

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

On it

Were you sent these to test this year???

@MarkCrossfield

Жыл бұрын

Nope

Do stealth 2 plus vs TSR 2 studio and on course brah

Not a fan of TM shoutiness or the para-what . 2nd ✋️ value for me but happy others go out and buy new models

Ping 430 is supposed to favor forgiveness over max ball speed whereas Stealth this supposed to favor ball speed over max forgiveness. I'd like to see a comparison between the two!

crossy and stat-hole scrambling vs the 2nd best greg in the world, please!!!

Is it just me or for the drive around the 3:43, did the simulator start to display the ball flight BEFORE the ball was hit? Is that some type of illusion?

Much prefer the Matt finish, should have expected the change.. SIM 2 was more glossy than SIM

What are the other 2 drivers? Anyone??

Def Matte