These guys give you cookies when they're done working on your vehicle. They're the real deal!

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

Haha that we do! Thanks James! Appreciate your support!

I serviced my 2013 Accord sedan for the first time at 80k mi. There was no maintenance schedule in the manuals. I called different Honda dealers and got different recommendations, so I will admit I was super confused. I asked my mechanic, who I have used for 20 years, and he suggested 80k (I was early 70k's at the time). At 80k, I took my car in and he did a flush. That was 2 years and 21k mi ago. Car still runs perfect today. I know a lot of people say to avoid CVTs, and I don't love mine as much as I loved my 2002 Accord with the conventional automatic, but so far my car has been reliable for the 7 years I've owned it and when I was shopping for another used Accord for my daughter we saw dozens of 2013,14,15 Accords with over 200k mi. I'm hoping I have the same luck with mine.

Wish I lived closer to your shop than down here in Sandy. Love the advice, thanks.

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Great comments. I got my transmission serviced this week after your previous video. The fluid was dark but not burnt. It needed the service!

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

Nice work!

What is the viscosity that you recommend for Honda Accord 2.4 2012? According to the manufacturer, it is 0W20, but lots of owners use 5W30 for better protection. What is your recommendation?

Thank u for the great advice - much appreciated

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! thanks for your support!

I am very happy I found this channel. ❤❤

When do you change out the filters inside the CVT’s? For example, in Nissan/Mitsubishi Jatco CVT’s there’s the pan filter and oil cooler filters that are known for clogging up and sending them into limp mode.

Thank you…..❤

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

You're welcome 😊 Thanks for your support!

Thanks so much! Proud to say that my mechanic agrees with you. I have a 17 CRV with 105,000 miles and a 21 accord with 36,000 miles. So far (knock on wood) zero problems. Hopefully I am going to put another 45,000 on my CRV. I am a recent subscriber. So glad I just happen to stumble on your KZread channel. Have you, or can you talk about keeping the turbo, in my case Honda, last 200,000 miles ! Again thanks for the great content !!!

@vongsakra253919

3 ай бұрын

It's a force from government to recommend car manufacturer to comply with emission control in term of climate change mitigation policy. That's how CVT exist today. It's fuel efficiency but it's fragile depending how driver treat it.

@allanpontiere6177

3 ай бұрын

Yep I agree. All we can do is keep up the maintenance….and buy the car with a NA engine and a traditional torque converter tranny. Mazda here I come !!

@yt-user03561

3 ай бұрын

At least the Toyota Camry has stayed true to its roots and haven't gone the turbo/CVT route. BUT when it finally does that will be the last straw for me with those cars.

@allanpontiere6177

3 ай бұрын

Yep. Toyota does have some CVT’s but Honda unless you buy the Ridgeline and I think Pilot everything is with a 2.0 / CVT or turbo with CVT…..which is why Honda reliability is still good but it has declined over the years. My CRV is running great but I know that even with the proper maintenance, its days are numbered 😕. Most likely going to switch to Mazda in the future

@anthonysuhadolnik948

Ай бұрын

CVT. Are junk? Honda said they're good for a 100000 miles. Spent $30000 on the car and then you gotta change the tranny. I have a 197000 miles. Did the fluid change every 25000 D*** The thing's making a winding noise. But it Shifts. All right. I'm afraid to take it on the trip anymore.

Hondas and Acuras for 30 yrs. Could you maybe talk some about hybrid tech on Honda products ie. "transmissions" and other things we need to know. Especially with the Civic coming with hybrid. Thanks.

My 2007 Nissan Sentra has a CVT dipstick. Can you show me exactly where the fluid should be on the stick along with the proper procedure? Thank you.

One solution to this drive a manual lol, I live in canada my 2009 Honda Fit still shifts at 563,000sh kms (350,000 miles), but time to prob change synchros.

@shane6284

29 күн бұрын

Thank captain obvious

So it's like a dialysis process... very nice, thanks!

Mitsubishi Mirage, has dip stick, Easy to change cooler filter, bottom filter is just like regular transmission, easy.

Hi my name is Din and I have a question...Honda motorbike is the same of the Honda Cars? Thanks so much.

2016 Honda Jazz with CVT seems good so far. 55000km on it. Had the CVT serviced by Honda just after 45k. Will see how it goes in the long run. I’ve grown to like how the CVT drives, it’s so smooth. Unlike my CX-5 that is always hunting through the gears while in cruise on hilly roads.

@anthonysuhadolnik948

Ай бұрын

Wait till it gets up in mileage. I service my CVT. Every 25000 miles. Make an annoying windings noise now at a 197000 miles. When you pay $30000 for a car and have to worry about a transmission.

Thank you for taking the time to make the video on a paramount subject. In my experience using OEM fluid is more critical than the quantity but they are both important. I learned the hard way using aftermarket fluid and my Honda overheated

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! great point. Sorry to hear that.

@neometalx9

3 ай бұрын

Which one did you use?

@no_country_for_real_men

3 ай бұрын

@@neometalx9 O Reilly house brand.

@neometalx9

3 ай бұрын

@@no_country_for_real_men did o Reilly have the Honda HCF-2 CVT standard on the list?

@bigabescanal2799

2 ай бұрын

I use castrol or valvoline that meets honda cvt spec with no issues.​@@neometalx9

I would love some input on whether to change your transmission fluid without vehicle history. 100,000 miles when I got it and no idea if it’s ever been changed. 2014 Chevy Impala, is it risky to change now? Now at 120,000 miles. Manual says change every 96,000 miles.

@jimbike8064

3 ай бұрын

I'd think a drain and fill would be fine. Most techs say stay away from flushes.

How about e-CVT which is being used in Honda CRV ? Is it reliable?

Do you ever modify your transmission and incorporate a spin off filter or does the grit from the transmission actually serve a purpose?

What cvt fluid are you guys using in the civics? I dont believe in the whole " you MUST use honda hcf-2 ONLY" as long as it meets or exceeds hcf-2 its fine. Just dont mix fluid brands. So do like 3 drain and fills, or if you have the machine use that. Just curious what you guys are using. I see valvoline cleaner, are you using the valvoline maxlife ATF/CVT universal stuff? Ive heard really good things about it. Same with the castrol transmax universal ATF/CVT. I also like the seafoam transtune cleaner conditioner stuff.

@bigabescanal2799

2 ай бұрын

I have used castrol cvt fluid or valvoline cvt fluid for my honda. I never tried the universal one. I have mixed them also with no issues. 89k miles. Drained and filled 4x since i owned the car. Fluid still comes out clean when i drain it so no issues.

Your recommendation for a 2018 Subaru Crosstrek Limited w/ 40k miles. It operates very smoothly that I'm hesitant to service it. Your thoughts. I'm in SE Florida.

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

We are doing a complete fluid exchange every 30k miles. For our clients that ski every weekend, we are doing a drain and fill every 15k miles.

I hope the price of 3.1 ATF drops by the time I need to change the ZF9 in my Ridgeline

Should also be noted that 'time' can be a factor with fluids. There are people who drive fewer miles. I've a 2016 Accord that I purchased new... it now has just under 30K miles... that's 30K in 7 years. I would suggest for all fluids: every 30K miles or every 3 years - which ever comes first.

I have a 19 year old daugher driving a 2015 Mirage so I am changing it every 10 K with factory fluid just the Mirage forum says to use.

I have the same comment as Otis884, wish I lived close to your shop.

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

We appreciate that, thank you

there is no flued in the E-CVT in my honda jazz crosstar 2023/2024 .only two electric ( 122 hp )motors and a 1.5 atkinson petrol engine .and it works fine. 3600 km run now.recomended oil change is 10.000 km.should i change the oil for the atkinson motor sooner?

@ln5747

3 ай бұрын

No, 10k km is fine. Just change it at 1 year service if that comes around sooner.

What about service with an e-cvt? I can't find a lot of info or videos really explaining that and just what the big differences are between that an an ecvt

@asheelramgoolam3106

3 ай бұрын

ecvt is a asynchronous electric motor.. no belt nothing... the oil used in ecvt is used to lubricate the internals and cooling... no solenoid what so ever

I have owned two Toyotas with CVTs. A 2016 Corolla LE & now I have a 2017 Corolla SE. I would be interested to know how the reliability has been with Toyotas CVT’s specifically.

@ln5747

3 ай бұрын

Extremely reliable. Probably even more so than their traditional torque converters. They're eCVTs. Apparently they hardly keep any in stock as they simply don't fail.

Do you drop the pans...or do you recommend dropping the pans, cleaning the magnets and replacing the transmission filter? Or is a drain/fill good enough if done often enough?

@carlovanrijk4039

3 ай бұрын

Unikornkontroller, I do a drain & fill every 30/35K miles. And then when I reach 100K miles I drop the pan, clean it out along with the magnets and replace the strainer.

@unikornkontroller

3 ай бұрын

@@carlovanrijk4039 That sounds like a good plan. Getting ready to do a drain/fill on my truck at 45k miles...a little late but better than what most people do.

@carlovanrijk4039

3 ай бұрын

@@unikornkontroller yep! You’re doing more than what most people do! Lotta people are aware of oil changes, but when you tell them about trans fluid, they look at you like they’ve never heard about it. Kudos to you! 😃👍🏼

@unikornkontroller

3 ай бұрын

@@carlovanrijk4039 Full disclosure...I wasn't always aware 😂

@carlovanrijk4039

3 ай бұрын

@@unikornkontroller I really didn’t get into cars until the plandemic…I work at Honda, and when we were off work for those 3 months I was going stir-crazy and I was watching all kinds of car related videos and started doing some work on our cars at home.

found this video while researching on CVT. my gf is looking at a 2018+ CRV and 2018+ Rav4. i don't know much on the CVT but what would you choose between the two cars?

@anthonysuhadolnik948

16 күн бұрын

I went with the 18 Toyota rav4 it has the 6 speed trann just got it 2days ago I had 2013 Honda Accord cvt was going I bought it new and fluid change every 25000 to30000

I am not sure why manufacturers have long drain intervals for the USA. Here in Pakistan, Honda recommends 40,000 km (approx 25,000 miles) or 2 years whichever comes first for CVT fluid change. At 40,000 km, dealerships also change the CVT filter behind the cooler.

@pepeshopping

3 ай бұрын

Great point! There is a LOT more hypocrisy (lying) in the USA! Car makers must lie in order to comply with not-smart, unsustainable government mandates...

What about ecvt on toyota hybrid? 30000 miles?

I am doing a drain and fill on the Accord CVT every 15,000 miles but only 1 drain and fill. At 60,000 I am planning on doing the filters if they are accessible and not sealed in the CVT.

@ricksays7133

3 ай бұрын

They are not sealed. You will need to replace some o-ring, the transmission pan gasket and clean out the magnets in the transmission pan too.

@robertmceuen3630

2 ай бұрын

I believe the one in the pan is a strainer, so only needs to be cleaned. The other one is near the top of the engine in a housing. Replace it with a new one and 2 new O rings, and you're good to go.

Are you a strict OEM only fluids guy or have you gotten good results with aftermarket fluids? I’m interested in Triax CVT, Idemitsu CVT. Maybe even Redline CVT. Has anyone gotten good results with these? I see you’re using Valvoline products…

@mph5896

3 ай бұрын

I installed a Nissan reman cvt recently, I used Aisin fluid for the fill up. It was $10 a quart in comparison to the $25 from Nissan.

@vqdriver

3 ай бұрын

@@mph5896 wow didn’t know Aisin made stuff! Thanks. I don’t have a CVT car personally but I’m big on fluid overhauls and I tell friends and family to get bloody interested in it because what ya don’t know will cost ya. So, always looking for ideas to streamline my personal garage

@charlesjackson1700

3 ай бұрын

​@@mph5896Aisin fluid is very good . I never knew how it compares in price with the other name brands.

@benchmark3332

3 ай бұрын

Any top brand will be fine as long as meets the fluid specification.

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

We have had great luck with the Idemitsu and Redline both.

The level of service here is way more than a single drain and fill. My guess is somewhere around $350 plus. Where flushing out the torque converter the main driver of cost of labor hours and material. One might assume doing twice at home comes close to this video.

@natas12rm

3 ай бұрын

Honda recommends doing it 3 times

Avoid CVT trans as long as you can . Even if you change it every 30000 and don't have any problems the service is significantly more expensive then servicing a geared transmission, and a geared transmission will only need changing every 50000. Exception to the rule. ECVT transmissions that are in hybrid vehicles use electric motors instead of a belt and pulleys and tend to be some of the most reliable transmissions you can get.

@Al-ok1lj

3 ай бұрын

I’m never getting another car with a CVT ever again. I can’t believe even Toyota and Honda are putting them in their smaller cars. I hope Mazda doesn’t follow them.

@gulfrasta5844

3 ай бұрын

My CVT has served me reliably for 200000 miles. I drain and fill every 50000 miles. It's better than other transmissions. Even manual because of the clutch. Honda Fit.

@yt-user03561

3 ай бұрын

As good as the Corollas and Civics have been, I will unfortunately stop buying them. Even the Accords all have them now. Looks like I'm going to have to get a Camry from now on (though still the best choice out of anything)

@ln5747

3 ай бұрын

Fake news. CVTs are fine and certainly no less reliable than dual clutch. They are not more expensive to service. I have them in cars and tractors and never had an issue. Same price to service as other trannies. Similar intervals also.

@KillerofGods

2 ай бұрын

​@@Al-ok1ljThey are doing it to comply with government regulations.

ya mean when it breaks in half ya get both pieces....LOL

Does Honda CVT have a launcher gear? Anyone know for certain?

@KillerofGods

2 ай бұрын

I heard some have a first or gear. That's all I know.

What is the replacement cost of a Honda CRC CVT?

@msmoniz

3 ай бұрын

Something tells me it falls under the “If you have to ask, you probably can’t afford it” category. 😞

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

If you are in our area, give us a call or text with your license plate number at 8017716711 and we can look up the cost of replacement.

@whereswaldo9089

3 ай бұрын

​@msmoniz that's about one of the dumbest things I heard. Not everyone has knowledge on every single thing about price. I don't know how much a 10 pound bag of rice is but I'm pretty sure I'll be able to afford it.

@msmoniz

3 ай бұрын

@@whereswaldo9089 Wow, talk about missing the point entirely! *facepalm

how can we check the level? is there dipsticks we can get..strange why they dont want us checking the level.

@mph5896

3 ай бұрын

You will have to read the procedure on your particular car on how to check. Some have a plug you remove when the vehicle is at operating temperature and running.

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

You should have a fill plug to check the level. You must look up the exact procedure pertaining to your vehicle though.

@Tracy-wr7mj

3 ай бұрын

@@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton its just a plug with no stick to measure

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

@@Tracy-wr7mj Yes. There is no longer a stick to measure. You must fill it up and monitor fluid coming out of the fill plug based of specific temperatures outlined in the procedure.

Changing modern transmission's oil are getting harder to work on.

I think I missed the part about NOT taking off fast and not pushing the car that hard?

Won't buy a vehicle with a CVT and after listening to this video it sounds like proactive maintenance would be expensive over a 200K ownership and then rid of it!

@JJ-iw7nh

Ай бұрын

Unless you learn how to do it yourself

@milfordcivic6755

5 күн бұрын

You would only change it 7 times in 200k.

How much does it cost for the whole “blood transfusion”?

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

I would say the average complete fluid exchange is a little under $400.00 with Labor, Flush Kit, Fluid and Sales Tax

My 2024 honda civic 1.5l the manual says replace every 25k

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

Oh good! For a while, Honda wasn't listing a recommendation in the manual

@thekingofnoobs8362

3 ай бұрын

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton I thought it was going to say that lifetime fluid crap

@MortarMan199

3 ай бұрын

@@ShadetreeAutomotiveLaytonThe 10th gen manuals say 25k mile CVT fluid change for "mountainous areas at very low speeds." Maintenance minder code throws at about 40-50k miles.

@Al-ok1lj

3 ай бұрын

Nissan was doing the same for awhile. Now their recommended service for their CVTs is 30,000 miles. Knock on wood. I know my car is a Nissan.

@thekingofnoobs8362

3 ай бұрын

@@Al-ok1lj I believe you that lifetime fluid backfired on them and honda as well

Going to post this on the Subaru media with their “lifetime” “unit is sealed” cvts. They make it so complicated to change the oil nowadays knowing that produces more waste. Then they blame the cows for the carbon footprint

please if u want i can remove all that small noise in background for u i would love to do that for free it will help listen to the video more comfortably

This video has little useful value for owners of Toyota vehicles with e-CVT transmissions, which are quite different in design and function from “conventional”, belt-drive, CVT transmissions this video addresses.

I will keep my old car if cvt is my only option. I had a 2007 Nissan Sentra that had three transmissions replaced before 50k miles. Nissan said they would not pay for another even if it was still under waurantee. I found out no one rebuilds these things, they just install new ones. For sub-compact cars they cost $5000 or $6000.

Why in the world does changing the fluid in a transmission have to be so complicated? Automotive engineers need to make these things easier, not more complicated, to service.

@edshank3897

3 ай бұрын

Exactly! I agree. Stupid not to have a dipstick to check fluid levels.

@natas12rm

3 ай бұрын

They do this so you void warranty and or so planned obsolescence won’t be prolonged. They know trans fluid won’t last 200k but they call it “lifetime” fluid. We should be able to sue them for that and the fact they are taking away repairs and maintenance from the owner doing them themselves

@pepeshopping

3 ай бұрын

​​@@edshank3897they do that to stop certain ignorant people from putting the wrong fluid or the wrong amount!

@pepeshopping

3 ай бұрын

It is only "very hard" for the non handy, common sense people. 100% of modern automatic transmissions are very sensitive to the specific fluid and exact amount of it! The procedure is SIMPLY to get the fluid up to temperature (volume expansion) and get rid of the excess fluid.

Drove a Honda CVT, what garbage 🗑️ Even in sport mode it’s really bad!