My wife once went to the dealer for an oil change and was told she needed new wiper blades after I changed her wiper blades literally that same week with brand new top of the line Bosch blades 😂

@a.a.a.r5238

3 ай бұрын

It happened with me with a cabin filter. Replaced it myself with new oem couple of days before maintenance apt at dealership and they recommended to watch out for dirty cabin filter that should be replaced soon. Did not go back to them!

@TheMarioBrosBros

3 ай бұрын

Bosch are the best, been replacing my family all with Bosch Icons.

@waterloo123100

3 ай бұрын

@@TheMarioBrosBrosHonda wiper inserts are cheaper and better then aftermarket 😂

@cgrf45

3 ай бұрын

Same thing happened to my wife last week. She was took her Tiguan in for service. Told her she needed new wipers, air filter, cabin filter, rear brakes and spark plugs. Total $1600. I told them just do the oil change. I told them I replaced the wipers 2 weeks ago and I checked the air filter and it was in goods condition. Monkeys is what they are.

@Crook4Money

3 ай бұрын

Happened to me when getting my windshield replaced.

This man is right on the money I do everything that he does preventative maintenance is the key to a reliable vehicle. I also have three Hondas. My cars all go high miles with very few problems. I have a 2007 Honda fit sport with 260,000 miles on it now it’s still very reliable and everything thing works as it should. Still drives like a brand new car. Goes through about a half a quart of oil between oil changes still has no leaks anywhere on engine or transmission.

@Gleeleeglee

3 ай бұрын

My 08 civic 192k mi just recently uses almost one qrt at 60% oil change status. Hopefully at 20% it wont be another qrt.

@nicholaspetre1

3 ай бұрын

Preventive maintenance is the key

@nicholaspetre1

3 ай бұрын

@@Gleeleeglee what motor oil do you use and what are your oil change intervals?

@mysticjedi6730

2 ай бұрын

You are having oil dilution as well. It's not one way.. Up your viscosity from 5w20 to 5w30 etc. Or use oil stabalizer. Go 5%, 10% etc until it stops.

Great video! I agree with you. 2018 Honda Civic EX-Hs with CVT. Oil changed every 5,000 miles and CVT fluid changed at 30,000. 46,000 miles on her now.

At the end of the day everything comes down to be an educated car owner. People refuse to read the owners manual and learn how to do simple preventive maintenance. Great video btw.

@crlaw75

12 күн бұрын

Especially now, since owners are keeping their vehicles longer.

Im in Canada...oil change every 8000km (4971 miles) Honda CRV owner...2.4 litre N/A motor & last year of the 5 speed transmission. Im keeping it forever.

@davidcampbell1899

3 ай бұрын

A Canadian here as well, Change oil every 6 months when I change the snow tires. May and November! Did the AT and Spark Plugs on my Camry at 130,000km and air and cabin filters every 2 years.

@coloradosprings7147

2 ай бұрын

5000km

@alanng4754

2 ай бұрын

Here here. I did my own full maintenance as well. I change my oil and transmission and differential oil. And radiator coolant change. I still have my brake fluid to change. All my brakes are inspected and/or changed after 5 years of driving. I did my oil and filter change every 3 - 5,000 miles due to the oil dilution problem on my CRV

Very clear sincere humble advise.. God Bless. More power to you Shadetree

In this case I don’t have a Honda - have a Toyota - but I highly rate your approach to maintenance and inspection and general advice and I learn something valuable every video. Thank you. Wish I lived nearer to you. Northumberland is a fair hike!

Very glad I found your channel. There's no professionals anymore. You have the best interest of your clients. Thank you for all the info!

That’s a bad Honda Dealership. The one I got to tells me to change the transmission fluid every 25k-30k miles to change my transmission fluid. Even the manual says to change it at 25k

@supertec2023

3 ай бұрын

I've never seen Honda recommend meaning the manufacturer for the transmission fluid to be changed at 25,000 me please State the name model year of that vehicle so I can look that up

@terrencebenjamin7241

3 ай бұрын

@@supertec2023 2020 Honda Civic. Look at page 550 of the owner’s Manual. Along with the maintenance minders under the asterisk section it clearly states to replace the transmission fluid at 25k miles if certain conditions such as low speed driving or mountain driving is frequent.

@alexgarcia7401

3 ай бұрын

@@supertec2023I believe the 25k fluid change applies to CVT transmissions. Your traditional transmissions I would change every 60k imo.

@tk104

3 ай бұрын

@@supertec2023 That's the recommendation for driving in mountainous areas at low speeds. It's the combination that matters. It's not just driving in the mountains or just low speeds but the combination of the two that causes higher transmission temperatures and requires more frequent fluid changes. If that doesn't apply to you then 25K is probably too soon for your specific driving conditions.

@Hardworkpays209

3 ай бұрын

@@supertec202323 hrv sport 2wd it says under normal operation 25k is what’s recommended but if you drive in harsh conditions. Hilly , dusty and muddy or snow 15k is recommended. I live in a harsh climate and I went 25k for the first interval to see what the fluid looked like. Nothing on the magnet but the guild was filthy I’m doing every 4th oil change now so 20k

Very good video and channel as well. I have a Honda Accord 4 cyl 2012 with 190,000 miles. Used to have 5-6k miles intervals, but the older the got, I switched to 3K mile intervals. I used Mobil1 EP and Pennzoil UP 0w20 since their cSt Viscosity @100C which is 8.8 matches with Honda Ultimate Full Syn viscosity and other aftermartket are too thin. Also, after 3K miles/3 months oil just gets too dirty and I dont like the look of it when draining. With high mileage vehicles I recommend 3K mi intervals too all car owners. I extract and refill a full tank of power steering fluid and brake fluid every second oil change that is every 6k miles in my case. Coolant stays good for very long time so I change it every 3-4 years or about 50K miles. Air filter gets dirty close to 10k miles and I change it basically every 3rd oil change. Cabin filter is changed in my vehicle twice a year as it gets dirty pretty fast in the city, so I change it before summer and before winter. I change spark plugs every 60k miles and every time I do it I feel a great improvement in the way the car responds to the accelerator and also get better gas mileage immediately.

@nicholaspetre1

3 ай бұрын

What 0w20 motor oil do you use in your shop when you service your Hondas?

@ADUSN

3 ай бұрын

Way excessive intervals. With full synthetic you could at least do 5k. Your money though

@nicholaspetre1

3 ай бұрын

@@ADUSN the engine is pretty dirty after many miles and prior long oil change intervals. I need to clean it and make sure car will last for more milea

@Soh90

3 ай бұрын

Wow that is quite the meticulous maintenance schedule my friend. Maybe almost too meticulous lol. Now I don’t disagree with the notion of DISREGARDING the new extended maintenance intervals of manufacturers. My 2014 328d for example gets an oil change every 5,000 miles as opposed to the absurd 10,000 recommended by BMW. I also did the transmission fluid change at 90,000 miles even though BMW said its lifetime - funny enough, ZF (the maker of the transmission recommends to change the fluid at 8 years or 50,000 - 75,000 miles so I don’t know what the hell BMW is smoking). But other than that, I personally think there’s no need to be changing fluids and filters THAT much. 5k is good for oil. 25k is good for cabin/engine air filters. 60k is good for spark (or glow plugs in the case of the 328) and transmission and diff can pretty much be held off until 70k to almost 90k.

@nicholaspetre1

3 ай бұрын

@@Soh90 Thank you for the comment. You know, it comes with time and experience. It is like clothes wearing, we do not change our clothes when it is obviously dirty and stinky, right. We send it to the washer when it is not fresh. The same approach is with the car maintenance. I change filters based on their condition as well, not simply mileage and time. When I check air or cabin filter after 6 month or 5K miles and I see it is dirty, full of dust and debris, bees, bugs and other insects, I throw it away in the garbage, I don't try to clean it and put it back and use it for 20K miles more because manual suggests this or the box says "change it every 30K miles". City driving wears components much faster than it seems. Regarding fluids, I don't wait till this moment comes when fluids acquire a soot color. The matter is that all these fluids as well as other things like tires etc they work properly while they are new, while they are in decent condition. After that they just sit, they do not work. Power steering fluid, for instance, yes, the pump still may work, but due to bad condition of the fluid the friction increases and those hoses inside tend to fall apart polluting the fluid even more with burned rubber debris. Coolant does not lubricate and harm the gaskets causing them to blow plus does not protect against corrosion. I had been working at the repair shop for several years and still in the parts business and I have seen how people loose their vehicles and got those ridiculously high bills because they simply did not spend $25-30 maintenance procedure on time. It seems to me so stupid. I can understand those who buy newer cars and keep them for 5 years MAX, they do not care, vehicles will still last till they get sold and it they become some other people's problem. But those owners who keep their cars for long should have more gray matter in their head to realize that it is much cheaper to maintain their vehicles than repair them especially these days when shops charge $150+ per hour. I realize that I can spend maybe $50 per every 3K miles more than any other driver out there, but at least I am confident in the condition all my vehicles and that is what maintenance is all about. At least I am not gonna be among those customers standing in the lobby with their dumb faces when they are announced to pay $6,000 and wait for 10 days because they didn't service their transmission on time or they got to pay $3,000 for the blown head gasket because coolant was never changed or that mechanic can do nothing about their car's terrible oil burn issue after 160,000 mileage because they religiously followed manufacturer's advice to change oil once a year of 10,000 miles like manual says using pure premium full syn oil that was good for 20K miles according to the bottle sticker. I hate to pay at the shop for my carelessness and I am doing my best not to.

In an online forum I found, a Honda technician in Japan confirmed that all Honda cars required scheduled transmission fluid flush. No exception. No such thing as life-time transmission fluid with Honda.

@GF-mf7ml

19 күн бұрын

In South ease Asia, Honda own these dealers, they replace filters and fluid because if the transmission fail, Honda will replace it with loss. BTW it's unlimited mileage with 8 years warranty.

James from Kenya 🇰🇪 like your Honda explaining safety in engine very much

My last maintenance at a Honda dealership was when my Pilot had 22,000 miles on it to get the oil changed. The service person came out with $700.00 in recommended work to be done. The first item on the list was to replace the cabin filter and vacuum out the fan area for $180 I said no to everything and replaced and vacuumed for $12 And I have not gone back.

You are 100% right I don't even wait for 5000 miles because it is my car not dealer

Great advice, no BS. Wish you guys had a shop here in Charleston SC.

Thanks again. I follow your advice & insight. Excellent.

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

You are very welcome. Thanks for your support!

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience! I have found your channel to be very informative! Also, it is very rare that a shop has loaner cars for its customers. That definitely elevates your shop and I'm sure your customers appreciate that courtesy.

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

Ай бұрын

Thank you! Yes our loaner cars have been a big pain in my butt...but my customers love them..haha

Just found this channel and I love it ! If I need a mechanic, I’ll be going to your shop ! Thanks for the content and keep it up !

I have a few Hondas in my stable. I just put new Koni shocks on the front of my 01 Prelude the other day in my garage. It was a lot cheaper than getting a shop to do it,easier than I thought but it’s a drag doing it on the ground and not on a lift, I still have to do the rears as well. I like the older cars I have as they are easier to work on. Greetings from British Columbia 😊

Same with the newer Toyota vehicles with these long oil change intervals. I get my oil change done very 5,000 miles or 6 months whichever comes first. I get it done at an independent garage.

Awesome! Appreciate you sharing the proper way to maintain a reliable Honda! 👍👍👍

Excellent advice. I own a 2017 honda CRV. I change my own oil every 4000 miles. Cvt fluid once each year and differential fluid once a year. Car runs like brand new.

100% spot on sir 👍🏼 knowledge is power

Great, great video…thanks so much for sharing.

Excellent video, thanks so much for posting this.

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

12 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the kind comment

I love this . Its worth knowing, GOD bless you Chief

I wish we had honest guys like you here in the UK. The wife has a 2020 Mazda 2 and just been caught out on the annual MOT check at the main dealer. It was OK when she took it in (I checked beforehand as I do regularly) but got stung when she went to collect. 😮

Great info-My 2008 Ridgeline has only been dealer serviced and has 304K on it. They do everything you do, only thing I have not done are the struts, still original and truck drives the same as new

Fellow Utahn here, please keep making these helpful videos 🙏🏽

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

Ай бұрын

Thank you! You got it

Really good advice being given here - this is how I look after our family's cars. Spending money on maintenance really saves you money in the long run and is critical if you plan on keeping your car a long time. There is no such thing as "lifetime" oil . . . if you don't change it the "life" of the transmission will be severely reduced (run away as fast as you can from anyone claiming otherwise). Change transmission oil at least every 50,000 miles with normal automatic gearboxes and more frequently with crappy CVT's - this is way cheaper than paying for a new transmission - a colleague of mine just had to replace the CVT in his Nissan and it was not a particularly high mileage car. I own a BMW in which the service manual recommends 12,000 mile oil change intervals which to me, as a mechanical engineer is asinine and simply a way to make the maintenance costs seem lower (at least until the engine coughs up is crank bearings). I reduced that interval interval by half. Air filters and cabin filters . . . every 18 - 24 months is usually okay and if you buy decent aftermarket parts from reputable parts companies these particular parts are not expensive and very easy to change yourself so even if you want to do it every 12 months its not going to break the bank.

Good information and clearly right on the money. Your video outlines all the important schedules for maintenance I’m very grateful there’s still a few mechanics and business that are working hard to educate people about car maintenance. I’m a little surprised that you left the Honda dealership with a maintenance agreement but they can be persuasive you just got caught up in the moment. You should get a couple of magnetic sign’s and cover up your own wrap with a feed store sign or something innocuous so any casual observer might not recognize your car in the dealership quick lube for service.

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

Ай бұрын

Haha..I bought it from a buddy of mine and he actually gets in a little trouble from management if he doesn't sell a maintenance package or extended warranty. He made it work within what I was willing to pay him for the car.

Thank you for this information. I just purchased a 2023 Passport at the end of last year and was wondering when things should be done.

Great video! Our Subaru dealer told us the same thing about our 2017 Legacy. No shops will touch the car to change transmission fluid because the manual says not to touch it. The dealer wants to flush the transmission at 100k miles, but I've heard negative things about that as well. Very frustrating

@robertneal6878

2 ай бұрын

@Halum_Movies From what I have read from Mechanics such as Scotty Kilmer and others, Do NOT have a transmission flushed! It breaks stuff loose that would not have caused a problem, but it Now will. Drain it and replace the fluid with the Same amount that was drained.

@Halum_Movies

2 ай бұрын

@@robertneal6878 that's exactly what I've heard and that's my fear. I feel put in a position by Subaru to fail

Awesome video, thanks so much! Aside from inspecting the brake fluid, I'm wondering if there is a general mileage at which the brake fluid should be replaced?

I took my Ridgeline into the dealer for a “free oil change” and they told me I needed new brake pads and rotors. I checked and they had plenty of life left. Two years later I still have 20% of the pad life left according to an honest shop. Just had them check yesterday.

Thank you for your honesty.

Very good information, purchased a 2017 Honda Accord Sport and plan on keeping it for a long time, it is ABSOLUTLEY insane for Honda and the dealships to recommend 10k oil changes and state the CVT transmission fluid as LIFETIME. This is totally wrong, most Honda vehicles use a very thin engine oil, 0-20 which as stated in the video breaks down in a much shorter time. It is IMPERATIVE that you stick to a 5k oil change schedule even with full synthetic oil and change your CVT transmission fluid every 30K, and ONLY use the Honda HCF-2 CVT transmission fluid.This will save you in the long run from huge costly repairs, I am just blown away the Honda dealerships/manufacturer would recommend such intervals, sounds to me like they want you to go by their intervals and make lots of $$$$

@johnblum2829

3 ай бұрын

I have a 2017 honda accord sport also, I do all my own maintenance, penzoil ultra platinum every 3,000 oem transmission fluid every 30,000 wix filters all around.

@slscamg

3 ай бұрын

I have found 0w-20 to be robust in NA applications. Definitely not taking it to 10k miles but when I have it tested at 5k it definitely has some life in it.

I agree with your recommendations. On my 12' Altima I have the CVT fluid changed every 2 years. To me years are just as important as miles.

Toyota had an issue with piston design until about 2015 which was causing oil issues with the 10k mi oil changes, but this was since fixed. Other brands may not have caught it so early, hence the prevalence of problems with 10k mi oil change intervals. It was after the change to low tension piston rings where fuel could blow by and dilute the oil near where the rods connect. I know this affected some Audis until at least 2017 maybe longer too.

Thank you, couldn't have came out during a better time. I just purchased my 2024 accord last night. Question, so for the Accord EX 1.5, my dealer recommended 87 octaine. I was confused because I'm fairly certain it's 91. And I feel you on the topic of trust when it comes to dealers

@jimbike8064

3 ай бұрын

87 octane for a Honda accord ex 1.5 I have the 2020 accord exl. I've heard some people recommend higher octane because it helps with potential head gasket problems.

@LTGONZ0

3 ай бұрын

@jimbike8064 thanks. Yeah, it seems like that's what a lot of others have been saying, and also sticking to a consistent fuel station when possible . I think I'm going to use 91, and use Chevron since it's near me

@jamesvw769

3 ай бұрын

The 1.5 has a huge oil dilusion issues. Some say high octane helps.

@jimbike8064

3 ай бұрын

@@LTGONZ0 I heard Ahmd from the Car Care Nut channel say that...try to stick with 1 brand. Had never heard that before. Of course it should always be a top tier gasoline, which Chevron is. I use Shell 95% of the time. Only something else in a pinch. I'm at 52,000 miles on my Accord. No problems, knock wood.

We work on our Honda/Acura vehicles and maintain them religiously. This is especially true when it comes to the transmissions. We do a simple drain and fill once a year. This keeps our CVT, 5, 6, 9, & 10 speed transmissions very happy.

In Africa Ghana where I live with most untarred roads, I mostly change cabin filters & the Air elements every 5000km, sometimes every other oil servicing.

I believe that the main problem is customers going with cheap oil and filters. I'm with the camp that follows the maintenance minder but use high quality oil and filters. I have a 130K miles odyssey that follows the built in maintenance minder which is well known for long intervals between oil changes. No issues with oil consumption or anything related. I seen oil analysis done on Hondas that follow the MM recommendation and all metrics are within range. 🤷‍♂ Will continue to follow the MM no matter what in my new Acura too.

@Brian-nx3yp

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, his "guarantee" for engine problems by 200K if you go 10K is false. I follow the MM which is typically 10K and my '09 Civic has 320K without issues. I use a full synthetic and burn about 1.5qt between MM changes.

We bought a new 2019 HR/V LX in May 2020. My interval for a drain/refill on the CVT fluid is 20,000 miles. I've already done one. Additionally, upon the first oil change, I started using Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil.

About the CVT transmission. I had a 2014 amAccord with a CVT and the Honda dealership recomended changing it evey 30k miles (if I remember corectly). I changed it three times while I had the car. I bought it with around 35k miles on it and the previous owner had changed it at 30k miles. Sold the car with 126k miles on it and the transmission was as smooth as the first time I drove it. So, yeah. Change your CVT fluids.

Excellent video. Other manufacturers, including Toyota, are giving customers the same bad advice. For any of these newer cars with DOHC engines, you can roll down a window and hear the difference after a 10,000 mile oil change. A clear indication the top end is not getting proper lubrication once the oil has been in the car that long. Same goes for transmission service. Beware of any used cars that have only had service at the new extended intervals.

2020 Accord exl owner. Maintenance minder will let you know when to change oil based on a number of variables, besides mileage. I usually change my oil when it gets down to 40%, which is around 7,000 miles. So probably could do 12k and still be under manufacturer guidelines.

Great video thanks so much for take your time i make this kind of videos. I appreciate i have a honda civic si 2020 how long i have to change my pvc valve? Thanks for your answer

I’m gonna follow this oil change recommendation! Also CVT fluid will be changed .

This whole 10k oil change's, lifetime trans and coolant is just a marketing thing to advertise low cost of ownership. I actually test my oil every few oil changes and I can say 5-6k is the safe limit with GOOD synthetic oil. Just keep oil changes @ 5k, trans filter and fluid ( pan drop) every 50-60k, coolant every 75k your car will last

I run Civic GX natural gas cars and I mirror your service recommendations. Though you didn't mention valve adjustments. My 2013 GX get adjusted every 30k miles instead of 60k as the nat gas explosion is twice as hot as gasoline and with no rocker arms it's critical to adjust to maintain motor performance, or so the cng crowd says.

I like this guy. He just tells it like it needs to be said, this is called Quality Customer Service. I own an 02 Accourd bought brand new, it was bought as a company car I Provide IT services to companies. The new accords cannot hold a candle to my 02 LX. I've a 2.3L with 5 Speed Manual Trans; power windows and AC. That's all I need.

Even Nissan CVTs can go farther if the fluid is changed every 30,000 miles. This is great advice. Also, 10,000 mile oil changes are a recipe for disaster, but that disaster will likely show it's face after 150,000 miles. This gets people into a newer car and they hope that customers can justify 150,000 as the "lifetime" of their car and move on without as much of a fight. The manufacturers care about them, not you.

Honda can keep their "free" oil changes. I just bought a new Ridgeline and they will never touch my truck unless it's a warranty repair

@bigjay1970

16 күн бұрын

Have one since 2006😊

I am in New Zealand and I change my Honda Accord cabin filter every 20 to 30k kms. The NZ Honda recommend new spark plugs every 100k kms. We have found Honda wheel bearings only last 90 to 170k kms. I also found alternator and starter motor both needed to be replaced around 160 to 220 kms and it's common with 2.4 Honda Accord.... Just thought I would share my experience....

Great advice no matter what you drive.

Shade tree, good article and I do believe all you mention to be true. I do have a question for you. I have a 2016 pilot. It has 183k on the clock. All services have been done including its second timing belt. What I am having a hard time deciding on is a complete strut replacement brand to go with. Looking at Honda oem, they require individual purchase for all the strut components compared to the brands that offer a complete strut for the diy’er. Question for you is what brand of strut company that offers a complete strut assembly do you guys use there in your shop for customers that require struts? The cost between the oem and complete assemblies is rather dramatic. Thanks in advance if you decide to provide some guidance. Things are a bit tight for me but I do recognize the need to stay on top of my maintenance. It just must be on a tight budget.

Honda technician here. Our dealership recommends 5k oil change service intervals and 30k for CVT transmissions. It varies from dealership to dealership. Manufacture recommendations aren’t the end all be all because most customers don’t even understand their maintenance minders. They rely on the oil change sticker and the service advisor telling them what they need.

Great advice! What If your car sits or just doesn’t even hit 5k miles easily? Would you recommend changing the oil every 6 months instead? I have a ‘20 Accord and I’m worried I’m not driving it enough and the oil may go bad over time.

@STILLNIGHTPEARL

20 күн бұрын

I’m in the same boat as you, I’m barely at 2600 miles since July 15 2023, 2018 accord sport 1.5 CVT, the maintenance minder came on last month, I will be changing the oil soon, honda says not to go past the 1 year mark for vehicles that aren’t driven much, just replace it at the one year mark.

@ViceCityLiving

20 күн бұрын

@@STILLNIGHTPEARL Thanks man, I appreciate that information!

The reason why they implemented "lifetime fluids" in car engines is that when it breaks down and it will, your going to have to take the car to their mechanics to rectify/fix the issues....a manufacturer depends on after care....if the product was fault free then a large chunk of monies would be not available to them....

I will only use Eneos brand for my '22 Civic Sport for its engine oil and CVT fluid. This brand is OEM for most Japanese cars. I find their engine oil lasting up to 6000 miles, and their CVT fluid still looks good after 30,000 miles but I change it before it reaches 40,000 miles with new CVT filters, pan gasket and o-ring seals in the CVT cooler housing.

With the hybrid I noticed driving around town in a day that’s not too cold the engine will be off half the time so technically is half the miles that your engine is running. On the highway it does run like 90% of the time though.

Everything on this vid is spot on! This guy knows what he is talking about.

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

I do my every 25 thousand miles on my Honda Civic CVT fluid, 5 5,000 miles on engine oil! Serpentine belt at 90k miles now it is 99k miles have zero issues!

I wish you had an older car for sale. I would love to buy a car from you, You definitely take care of them for sure....

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

Hello, I'm retired, I only read a few reviews but they agree with your advice, as do I. I bought a new Honda CRV 1.5 Turbo in 2018, it has very low miles now in 2024. After a life's worth of mostly used, different cars with varying experiences, me and my wife wanted a rock solid car for traveling in retirement. I've always done my own maintenance when possible. So far I haven't experienced oil dilution but it is a concern. Me being 64 when I bought the car, I hoped it might be my last car before I have to stop driving and am determined to baby it and maintain it well to that end. A selling point was the Honda dealer gave lifetime oil changes. I took it in for the first change but discovered that online reviews of the Honda oil filters they use were terrible. Ever since, I change my own with quality filters, quality full synthetic oil every 5 thousand miles and I plan to change transmission fluid at 30,000. I agree Honda dealer recommended mileages aren't realistic for really long life. Even if my oil changes are a little early for my own case, it's a small price to pay for longevity, safety, security and confidence in the vehicle. I'm a well educated user, I think as you said - Honda's marketing and products attract the kind of buyer who intends to do what's needed to make the car last. Love your videos! Don't change a thing! :)

Thanks. This also applies to their non cvt hybrids? (eCVT) ?

6:15 Exactly right. Inspect first then replace if needed. Just replacing based on mileage alone is lazy shop work.

I just found out last service visit here in Calgary that the original owners of Honda sold to people who are not family oriented. The service guy told me things have really changed and that they are to go longer on oil changes . He said the tension is really bad there. So sad

I to like Honda Accords - I had a 1990 and have a 2003 and a 2011 - I change the transmission fluid around 30,000 miles - there is a transmission fluid filter that I replace, but it’s never mentioned in the owners manual as to the interval

I always replace trans fluid 40-50k miles , oil change 4-5k miles . Never fails on me and all of them reached over 200k miles with no issues .

For Honda suspension components, do you use aftermarket or OEM? I would be interested to see a video on how you guys decide what you decide when to use aftermarket parts.

@natas12rm

2 ай бұрын

Use McPherson!

Excellent advice. But, my dealership now wants to charge me for a cvtf re learn procedure. The price went up and they want to justify the increase with an unnecessary trans re learn after a cvtf change. Wow. I know better.

I agree. I own a 2013 Accord EX w/CVT which I bought in 2017 and it had 20k mi. Years later, when I had added 50k to the odometer, I was trying to figure out when to change the CVT fluid. There was no maintenance schedule in the manuals so I called a Honda dealer and asked. I ended up calling several because they weren't too clear on when to do this, nor did they seem to agree with other dealerships' answers. I was given 30k, 50k, 60-100k so I finally asked my mechanic, who I have used for 20 years, and he said he would do it at 80k. So .. at 80k he did a flush for me. The only thing that worries me is should we have changed the fluid, rather than doing a flush? I've heard the machines they use can cause damage. This was 2 years ago, and I have 100k now. So I'm guessing no damage was done but for next time should I change or flush?

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

Ай бұрын

What concerns most people with the verbiage "flush" is not really a problem any more. Most shops either do a drain and fill or use a machine for a fluid exchange. Either way has its place.

Can't argue with any of this advice. The only thing I would add is that oil and tranny fluid won't wear as much during highway driving in temperate conditions. I generally stretch oil changes out during the winter months (in Florida), maybe go 6.000 miles if I'm on the highway a lot. Our Acura flashed a transmission service code at 47,000 miles, right about when I planned on having it done. It spends more than half of its life on the highway.

I have ordered a 2024 Honda Civic Hatchback Sport Touring with a 1.5 L turbo, it's supposed to be built between 11th & 17th of this month. I agree with you I would never follow the 10,000 mile oil change, my current car is a 2007 Pontiac G5 GT I'm trading in has a 157,300 miles & has always been change by the percentage gage which was around 7,500 miles. I've never had a problem with the car but a brake master cylinder went bad about 135,000 miles, The car has mainly been driven to work 60 highway miles a day 5 days a week running Mobil 1 5-30 full Synthetic since new after the 1st oil change at 3,000 miles. I believe Honda uses their brand full synthetic 0-20, what mileage do you recommend for my 1st oil change, I've always went 3,000 to get the break in oil out?

Good advice, I would and did follow, but now I lease my civic, so longevity falls on them. Correct or not

The oil change interval should be as follows 6 months or 5,000 miles period. Use full synthetic oil only! Nice feature that you offer loaner vehicles too!

Excellent advice. What service intervals do you recommend for the hybrid inverter fluid? I can't seem to get a straight answer from the dealership. They tell me the cars computer will let me know.

My cabin filter is easily accessible and i change it once a year. Its always quite dirty filled with debris. A lot depends on the enviroment you are driving in but every 2 years by default is not the best

My local Honda dealership has said 5k miles on oil change, 30k on my cvt transmission and 60k or five years on my coolant. They said believe in making sure they have repeat customers who will have trouble free reliability to become lifelong Honda drivers. I’m still getting the free maintenance plan so far I’ve had three oil changes and a cabin air filter replacement hit something in the road damaged a tire. Literally the only thing I’ve paid for so far was the cabin air filter for 35 bucks.

I can tell you that these recommendations can easily vary wildly by dealership and honestly service advisor and technician. I work on cars and I tell people these things listed below Oil change every 5k check your oil level before changing the oil to make sure you’re not burning any. If you don’t then you will eventually get a P0341, it will jump time and potentially destroy your engine, or the timing chain tensioner/ VTC actuator will rattle on start up. Either one of these will result in a new chain, tensioner, guides, VTC actuator, and in the case of engine failure you trading in the car because you’re gonna say screw putting in a new engine. Trans drain and fill every 30k for CVT( 9/10 speed every 50k, 6 speed auto do a flush(Hondas main weak point honestly has always been their transmissions. I do a flush because the fluid in these pilots after 30k is usually pretty dark and the pilots like to get a P0741 which if that pops up then you’ll need a torque converter. DO NOT USE A FLUSH MACHINE. Drain and refill the transmission fluid and then drive the car to cycle the fluid through the torque converter and repeat this process until the fluid is cherry red. Trust me it works and sometimes if you have a P0741 then it’ll keep it away. This flush will work/help any Honda that takes ATF-DW1.) change the fluid sooner if you tow or haul anything frequently). Transfer case and rear differential fluid every 15k ( I know he said every 30k in the video but I’ve seen some cars come in with a vibration when making sharp turns and when I change the fluid it goes away. These customers waiting 30k instead of 15k. It’s not every car this happens to.) Brake fluid every 3 years or if it’s dark Multi point inspection and tire rotation every 5k. Power steering fluid I usually don’t change unless I’m fixing a leak and need to add some. Flushing it out usually causes a blockage and swelling of the inner tie rod boots. Forcing that fluid around just sometimes causes leaks that weren’t previously there due to aging seems so just leave it alone unless there is a leak. Spark plugs, timing belt w/ tensioner, drive belt, water pump, associated pulleys, and valve check and adjustment every 100k( only use NGK or Denso spark plugs. Not changing the plugs usually makes the coil packs work harder and eventually burns them out. Usually they’ll start to fail under load. If the coil pack does fail only use HONDA products because usually the aftermarket coil packs fail WAYYYYYYYYYY faster and customers are always in disbelief when I tell them the coil the just replaced at autozone has failed. Carbon cleaning every 50k if you have direct injection. All direct injection cars carb up on the valves unless they’re using a dual injection system like Toyota. Hope someone finds this useful and don’t let people talk you into those carbon cleaners where all they do is spray stuff into the throttle body. Half the time it’ll result you needing a catalytic converter sooner than you normally would. My dealer tries to push them but I purposely don’t sell them. The best way to remove carbon is to take the intake off and actually clean the valves manually so it doesn’t get in the catalytic converter. That spray shit barely works at all and just isn’t worth the hassles knowing that a new catalytic converter can be thousands of dollars. My Honda has over 270k on it and I follow these intervals and have had zero issues. Also adding half a quart to a quart of ATF-DW1 every oil change can help keep the engine clean as it does serve as a detergent inside the engine but that’s optional. I usually add about half a quart.

Transmission fluid changes are recommended on all Honda's. The interval is built into the onboard maintenance minder and should occur at approx 80,000km. It's listed in the owners manual and is maintenance code #3

I know we are talking Honda but the school van I am driving is a Ford 350 Transit 2023 and the mechanic that the van gets serviced at told me they are charging the oil at 15,000 miles.

Honda is following every other manufacturer. It’s something created back in the 80’s called cost of operation. Volvo does lifetime atf back in the early 2000’s. Remember it’s a race to the bottom.

My Honda dealer is really good with a maintenance minders we print out 5k oil stickers and all fluid are reccomended when they are actually due.

I just bought a new 2024 Honda Pilot elite. At what mileage would you recommend the transmission oil change? 30,000 miles or 50,000 miles?

Same B/S From SUBARU, I've Had CVT Fluid Changed Twice, 140 Thousand On My 15 Outback No CVT Issues! I Change Engine Oil Every 4 To 5 Thousand. Small Local Independent Shop Does Competent Work!

Also please let me know I have 2013 honda crv ex awd on how many miles I have to change oil in transmission and and also rear differential please let me know and also timing change

The 10k service interval come from customers surveys done by automotive manufacturers. Since most cars are leased; the customers do not like going to the dealership for servicing often. This has led to 10k or one year oil changes by the new car dealership service departments

I hate it when they tell people that the transmission fluid is sealed for life! That’s bullshit! I change mine every 30k miles as well! My current Honda is actually a stick shift. It’s a 2005 Honda CR-V and I recently switched to redline manual transmission fluid in my daily driver and the difference is night and day. I think it’s every 30k miles or 50k miles that those should be changed out as well. I also did a LiquiMoly engine flush and oil change with the MO2 additive. I like to do that on my older cars to ensure the longevity of the engine. This one burns no oil at all but with over 200k I figured it was best to go ahead and do that service. I also installed NGK spark plugs and I actually had Honda do the rear differential fluid on this car when they did some other work on the car for me. I do need to do struts as well. That’s probably going to be next on the list

Nissan told my relative that the CVT fluid was a lifetime fluid. I convinced her to change the fluid at 45k miles. Her CVT is still running strong at 90k miles.

I usually do a 6 month or a 4500 mile (which comes first) oil. I know for some lt seems excessive but i love taking care of my investment and car lol

@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton

3 ай бұрын

No that’s not excessive. Nice work!

@thedancam5132

3 ай бұрын

An oil change twice a year seems quite inexpensive when compared to the cost to replace an engine.

Well, I guess I'm lucky in my 13 Honda Accord Sport manual. I change the oil that is recommended in the Honda manual or whenever the indicator on my dash shows up change it. Every 16,000 km. I ignore what any garage says to replace your oil every 5,000 km. I've had no single issues so far with 476,000 km from new.

I noticed one of your Civics has the 2.0 engine. Very smart choice. Not sure if the other one was the 1.5 Turbo which isn't too reliable.

My 2015 Honda civic cvt transmission went out at 138K. The dealership advised when I purchased the car brand to never change the trans fluid!

You don’t have to be a Honda owner to apply all these good stuff he just said, it applies to all.. thank you sir!

my local Honda stealership told me that I desperately need to change the spark plugs and get a valve lash adjustment. I did both of these less than 6 months and 2500 miles ago.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have a 2018 Honda civic, I was advised by the dealer to perform a brake fluid flush ( 30,000 miles or 5 years they stated). What is your opinion on when to perform that service?

@starkeymorgan4142

3 ай бұрын

Mine just did the same. it was 99 bucks so I let em do it at 40 and also drain and fill transmission, also 99 bucks.

@twodobermansandaguy8897

3 ай бұрын

@@starkeymorgan4142 My local dealers want $340 + tax for the service. I am looking online to do it myself, but I would need to purchase a few tools that only apply to this job.

@Oliver-1755

3 ай бұрын

My 2016 manual says to change it every TWO years.

What oil do you recommend for Honda manual gearboxes? Seems like the latest Honda brand MTF is really thin now - probably to improve fleet gas mileage. I was wondering if maybe 15W40 motor oil or GM synchromesh fluid might be a better choice.