Have you heard of Asse before? Do you know you of any similar cases from other parts of the world?

@user-kd2uo9cz8f

16 күн бұрын

i haven't heard. i live near dry nuclear storage facility run by Mining Chemical Combine (MCC) in zheleznogorsk, russia

@TiborRoussou

16 күн бұрын

Onkalo was supposed to be the worlds first nuclear repository. Onkalo is meant to contain nuclear waste for 100,000 years.

@giovannigarbaccio4954

16 күн бұрын

THIS PROGRAM CREATES FEAR AND HARMS THE IMAGE OF NUCLEAR ENERGY, THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY IS GRATEFUL DW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@oneshothunter9877

16 күн бұрын

Project iceworm/Camp Century in Greenland. US Army supposedly left 2000 tonnes of radioactive waste water from the reactor IN the inland ice of Greenland. This waste will pour out into ocean eventually. No plans to even try to clean it up. Probably impossible. Thank you for an interesting documentary.

@utubestalkerdotcom

16 күн бұрын

herding donkeys?

4:26 Props to the DW Planet A team for showing and mentioning the radiation level or rather the lack thereof as well as the natural nuclear radiation coming from the environment naturally.

@maxheim3802

16 күн бұрын

Big problem is that these substances are heavy metals which are highly toxic

@mrkokolore6187

16 күн бұрын

@@maxheim3802 Yeah. Like those for which Germany has the largest final storage facility in the world. I'm talking about Herfa-Neurode. But when it is radioactive for some reason finding a final storage facility seems to be impossible.

@Masterrunescapeer

16 күн бұрын

Yes? The issue has never been to temporarily store it, it's always been about long-term and the cost associated with it. This shows how issues crop up over time, and you have no guarantee that the country will be able to afford to maintain a nuclear dumping ground in a hundred years. Just look at Germany pre-WW1 economy vs post, same for WW2. Imagine that at the end of one they needed to still figure out how to maintain a nuclear storage facility.

@ZrJiri

15 күн бұрын

​@@maxheim3802 The only heavy metal in any meaningful quantities in low/intermediate level waste would be lead used for shielding, and that's no more toxic than all the lead we still have in old drinking water pipes.

@Artoootube

14 күн бұрын

Have you seen the pools of contaminated water my dear??? Or you watched only 1 min. of the above material???

It seems so un-German to not keep detailed records, let alone not stack things efficiently- whats going on? 😅

@meerkathero6032

13 күн бұрын

The nuclear industry wanted something and politicians made it happen, no matter the cost.

@gulliverthegullible6667

13 күн бұрын

you need to let go of your stereotypes, that is what is going on.

@richardjones2811

8 күн бұрын

Germany is a user, not the boss of it.

@spamstabber

6 күн бұрын

Yeah you should probably look up the state of German industry right now, your stereotype is a bit out of date. 😅

@morisuzuka8408

5 күн бұрын

Its West Germany.

They literally just dumped it lol. Didnt stack or organize or nothing. Germany is wild

@elonmuskes4874

15 күн бұрын

it is qite a commen method for desoposing of low level neuclier waste. this is also the method used in findald for long term disposal. the method ensure that as few people as posible have to come into contact with the material. when the "rooms" are alsost full they can simply fill the rest with concrete and leave it. As explaind in the video salt is an exilent insulator for the radioative materials.

@holgernarrog

15 күн бұрын

It was a test. There were chambers were the barrels were stucked and others were just dumped. Anything against this excellent test site? or the green communist propaganda?

@holgernarrog

15 күн бұрын

A propaganda that made an excellent test site which was the example for the WIPP in the USA to green communist propaganda tool?

@sansmoi4168

15 күн бұрын

The Brits just duped it in the sea

@mikemhz

14 күн бұрын

@@sansmoi4168 Not just the Brits. Belgium and France too. The Brits just dumped 3x more than anyone else. While this practice has been prohibited since 1982, it has not resulted in significant contamination

Nuclear waste in steel barrels, plus salt water. That was a big brained idea to use that site.

@davidallen6434

7 күн бұрын

It Doesn't Work The Way They Want If They Even Care. Water Only Hides Nuclear Waste Just Like Salt Only Hides The Signals. In Truth They Really Messed Up.

@Waldemarvonanhalt

5 күн бұрын

Low- and intermediate-level waste is effectively just trash.

@krazy.88

5 күн бұрын

and usualy they pour concrete into barels. this documentary is just another sht show.

@RochaPartneristDeadFireHD

5 күн бұрын

you are not gonna find high level waste in steel barrels

@chincemagnet

5 күн бұрын

@@RochaPartneristDeadFireHD I forget what they said, filters and some other stuff. Not spent fuel.

its a real shame that nuclear waste has so much thought put into its disposal, and then gets so much flack for it but coal power plants get to dump all of their waste into the air and regular garbage dumps like its nothing

@ch.k.3377

15 күн бұрын

Exhaust gases from coal-fired power plants can be filtered, but unfortunately radioactivity cannot

@ok-tr1nw

15 күн бұрын

​​​@@ch.k.3377radioactivity can be washed out since water is basically just a wall of protons and neutrons

@vincentgrinn2665

15 күн бұрын

@@ch.k.3377 yeah, and most dont even bother filtering it and those that do, all the filtered out debris have to go somewhere, and that somewhere is to regular old dumps with the bottom ash, which can leak into water sources

@robertking3090

15 күн бұрын

you should see some of those Chinese solar manufacturing plants look similar to that lol

@MutheiM_Marz

14 күн бұрын

Coal exhaust contains radioactive particles, coal burned in Europe is smeared the Earth atmosphere all the way to Asia meanwhile Germany nuclear waste never leaves its country…Some dudes said he stationed in US carrier and a dosimeter never went off at the sea except when they docked at a coast of Italy where there are a coal power plant operating…

As always Citizens and Tax payers will pay for the mess not the actual responsible organization.

@sarahmayer8539

16 күн бұрын

"but nuclear is soooo cheap!" /s

@insynthesiswithinfiniteis2318

16 күн бұрын

That's the nuclear industry motto "Privatize the profits, publicize the risk"

@cherriberri8373

16 күн бұрын

​@@sarahmayer8539 fossil fuel is not cheap either. You pay for it through your taxes in subsidies, you are just ignorant to it. You also, unlike nuclear, pay for fossil fuels in your health insurance and home insurances as well, as those are more expensive due to the strain fossil fuels puts on our health and the environment.

@cherriberri8373

16 күн бұрын

​@@insynthesiswithinfiniteis2318 if fossil fuels have zero risk, sure. Otherwise you just described most industries motto

@utubestalkerdotcom

16 күн бұрын

Germany can recycle the nuclear waste [zirconium and uranium] as clean energy and have power for the next 100 years or so.. The US is trying to do it. (Resource: Oklo Inc)

This story is essential in understanding why Germans are so opposed to nuclear power.

@holgernarrog

15 күн бұрын

A propaganda that made an excellent test site which was the example for the WIPP in the USA to green communist propaganda tool?

@yarost12

15 күн бұрын

Muh brown coal yeeeessss I love sniffing s m o g

@mnd7381

14 күн бұрын

It's really a mess, but then again with this population, what're you gonna do

@Alte.Kameraden

14 күн бұрын

To be honest, they handled it poorly, and it's their own fault. Not Nuclear Power itself. US doesn't have this problem, we took the disposal of nuclear waste more seriously.

@farariri

14 күн бұрын

Germans are opposed to nuclear power because the Russians told them to do so. It's all about money baby.

Yeah, I knew about the problem but I didn't know the specifics of the situation. I'd just heard about an underground nuclear waste storage site, in Germany, that had numerous problems like water leaking in and poor storage practices. Thank you, for helping me to better understand the problem.

@albertutrecht9627

13 күн бұрын

Dumped it in the channel too.

piling nuclear waste in 1964? In 1964 the us was still researching how it could work, all plants that did exist where located in the us and experimental

Radioactive waste from Germany was also brought to Eastern Europe...

Our predecessors really did not give a fuck about the future.

@doodskie999

10 күн бұрын

My problem is the future's problem mindset

@csibesz07

7 күн бұрын

Same going on now with CO2 and plastics.

@Waldemarvonanhalt

5 күн бұрын

You're worried about rubber gloves and cotton smocks?

@abramsstonks6076

4 күн бұрын

nor do I

@juh4rtluka230

3 күн бұрын

nobody does.

The show Dark makes a lot more sense now. The shady nuclear dealings really are a present issue in the minds of germans.

@holgernarrog

15 күн бұрын

You mean the disinformation by the green communists?

@2147B

10 күн бұрын

All nuclear reactors produce waste, What are other countries methods for "throwing away"

@joeleonard9965

9 күн бұрын

Pretty similar. Just look at​ Runit Island@@2147B

The problem with nuclear waste is most contractors and governments ignore the cost (including security) involved in maintaining and properly containing radioactive waste. I’m not against nuclear power, but any assessment which doesn’t realistically account for spent fuel waste on a 500 year horizon is a generational and environmental failure.

@SocialDownclimber

14 күн бұрын

Paying just a single person minimum wage for 500 years to look after such a facility adds a huge cost, over and above the construction cost of permanent waste storage facilities. Pretty sure they would need at least a few well paid people to do so.

@the_retag

14 күн бұрын

500? 500000

@TheRealSykx

14 күн бұрын

@@SocialDownclimber nothing is permanent is the lesson to learn from nuclear waste storage problems

@meerkathero6032

13 күн бұрын

500 years drastically underestimates the time horizon required to safely store the waste.

@MTobias

8 күн бұрын

most governments of course take this into account. The full cost of nuclear power incl. waste disposal is around 5ct/kWh.

But how much is it radioactive? What is the real scope of the problem? Ground is radioactive too. Granite constantly leaks small amounts of Radon gas, but nobody proposes to remove all granite buildings

@eskimo4130

16 күн бұрын

It's the potential for the mines to collapse and all the waste getting leaked eventually ending up into the water cycle near by. Wouldn't have been an issue if it wasn't dumped below ground

@elonmuskes4874

15 күн бұрын

@@eskimo4130 were else should it have been dumped?

@holgernarrog

15 күн бұрын

-It was an old Potash mine that was bought for 1/2 M DM in the 60ies. -The waste stored there is low level radioacitve waste as contaminated shoes, clothing, lab equipment. -The biggest source of waste was the "Kernforschungszentrum Karlsruhe" (my father as nuclear regulator in BaWue had the responsibility). From a technical point of view Asse is overdone. In other countries this kind of waste is stored in concrete lined landfills (ex France, CSR). From a technical point of view it would make sense to flood it and close it.

@meerkathero6032

13 күн бұрын

@@holgernarrog You did not watch the video. 90% of the waste is from nuclear power plants, the records are not complete or falsified, some of the barrels are high toxic and high active waste, no one knows how many, flooding would happen over time and contaminate the ground water of the region, eventually bring the toxic and radioactive wast to the surface again.

I have been working in this field in France, it is actually very possible to recycle nuclear waste, that was my job.

@zaired

16 күн бұрын

this is mostly low and medium level waste, it's not that easy to recycle, but at the same time it's not very radioactive, so not very dangerous.... germans are just drama queens when it comes to nuclear

@insynthesiswithinfiniteis2318

16 күн бұрын

That's not a solution to the problem, only a tiny portion of nuclear waste can be "recycled". It is prohibitively expensive, and the process actually creates more radioactive waste, in forms that are more difficult to manage.

@insynthesiswithinfiniteis2318

16 күн бұрын

@@mrbad3036 Nuclear fuel repreprocessing has never been a viable option, due to the expense, proliferation risk, and environmental impact. Only a small portion of the waste can be reused, and the process itself is enormously expensive, risky, and creates a lot more radioactive waste, in forms that are more difficult to manage.

@gregorymalchuk272

16 күн бұрын

​@@insynthesiswithinfiniteis2318 Fuel reprocessing certainly isn't more expensive than your ¢57 per kWh electricity prices.

@gregorymalchuk272

16 күн бұрын

​@@insynthesiswithinfiniteis231857% of global carbon emissions come from countries that already have nuclear weapons. And power reactors produce reactor grade plutonium which is useless for nuclear weapons.

Yeah this issue has always been a later thing.. well later is eventually upon us

great so if there is an emergency while people are in the van, all oxygen is in the trunk lol

@Chrispy4957

13 күн бұрын

😂 i thought the same thing.

This explains probably, why A. Merkle ceased the nuclear power program. In U.S. southwest, we also store some nuclear waste in underground salt formations. We had a mistake (hundreds of millions $ +) when a chemical explosion in a storage drum caused a chemical fire (both non-nuclear), this past decade. High level waste must be stored separately, and in different technology to sequester, from low level waste. Britain and France (& Japan) have/had facilities which reprocessed the high level wasted from used fuel (and both experienced significant challenges with the processing, despite good designs). IFF the used fuel (depleted uranium needs storage/reprocessing after only a few % of the uranium has been fissioned, because the byproducts interfere with further fission) is reprocessed, OR is fed into a 'fast' neutron reactor, it can be further fissioned, which (1) yields more power generation from the fuel, and (2) the end products of this further fissioning process have high radioactivity for only ~ 1,000 years. The half life of plutonium is on order of 25,000 years, requiring sequestration for about 1,000,000 years. Very useful research on means of stable sequestration in geologic storage has been done by Alfred Edward "Ted" Ringwood FRS FAA (19 April 1930 - 12 November 1993) [in Australia... invented 'synroc'], and Rodney C. Ewing (in U.S.A. at U. Michigan and Stanford, where now emeritus). I 'think' progress over next 40 years will achieve viable stable storage. In U.S. at Hanford, Wash (site of reactors for plutonium manufacture for WWII bombs), we still have not achieved a good fix. {I had not previously heard of Asse, thank you!}

@Raygeemusic

12 күн бұрын

Merkel was the one who authorized this in the first place, before she was chancellor. To shut off the power plants was just because of the elections.

Sadly the Asse is often used as an example for nuclear waste treatment when in reality this is no longer the case in Germany where today nuclear waste is one of the if not the most safely handled kind of waste there is.

@TheHonestPeanut

16 күн бұрын

Imagine being so thick you still think governments and private energy producers are honest with their safety reports...

@spacemonk26

16 күн бұрын

just wait until your economy declines ... slightly... then see how safely they still handle it, and thats not counting the scandals which are probably happening under your nose that you just haven't heard about yet

@sarahmayer8539

16 күн бұрын

where is the vast majority of it stored?

@insynthesiswithinfiniteis2318

16 күн бұрын

LOL, that's not actually true, there are radioactive waste dumps all over the globe that are nothing but glorified holes and piles like this

@mrkokolore6187

16 күн бұрын

@@sarahmayer8539 On-site at the nuclear power plants. There is actually a final storage facility for low and intermediate-level nuclear waste under construction in Germany called Schacht Konrad.

Would change the title since the waste is not leaking and the asse itself is also not leaking.

@meerkathero6032

13 күн бұрын

It is leaking!

@LabGecko

13 күн бұрын

Have you seen a geological report that the salt mine, with flowing water, will never leak further into the area's water supply? Such a study would surely shine more light on the issue.

i didn't know of this yet, but i am 100% not surprised.

@holgernarrog

15 күн бұрын

about this green communist propaganda? -It was an old Potash mine that was bought for 1/2 M DM in the 60ies. -The waste stored there is low level radioacitve waste as contaminated shoes, clothing, lab equipment. -The biggest source of waste was the "Kernforschungszentrum Karlsruhe" (my father as nuclear regulator in BaWue had the responsibility). From a technical point of view Asse is overdone. In other countries this kind of waste is stored in concrete lined landfills (ex France, CSR). From a technical point of view it would make sense to flood it and close it.

Do you want Godzilla? Cause this is how you get Godzilla.

They dumped that in a salt mine??? It was better to hire a geologist. Huge mistake!

@oljackie35

7 күн бұрын

60's and 70's before any regulations were wild

@franciscovessani6720

6 күн бұрын

@@oljackie35 we know salt is a porous, liquid-sucking layer of rock since way earlier

It is totally crazy to me that they literally just dumped the barrels instead of stacking them neatly. You'd think that simply dumping would risk compromising the barrels and causing a leak!

@Atom15

15 күн бұрын

what is inside is not a liquid.

@the_retag

14 күн бұрын

You cant be sure​@@Atom15

@the_retag

14 күн бұрын

The barrela were never meant to contain the waste long term inside tge mine

@MutheiM_Marz

14 күн бұрын

It‘s low level….basically a glove or pant and plastic wrap…dude thought it was a coolant water or something?? Or maybe a graphite moderator..

This channel is freaking awesome and I sincerely appreciate quality content like this. Keep it comin'!

@DWPlanetA

10 күн бұрын

Hey there! Very glad to hear that you like the video! We post videos like these every Friday. If you want to be notified about new content, subscribe to us ✨

Very insightful, thanks.

As someone who did protest against the Endlager and Zwischenlager in Gorleben of fucking course I know abaout that. You can visit greenpeaces first Boat, the Beluga, at Gorleben, too. There's nothing nuclear down in Gorleben and yet that mine will not be used to source salt for human consumption.

My auditory processin disorder can make certain accents rly hard for me to parse, and this is one of them; so glad for good captionin tho so i dont get too confused I cant even explain what it is rly but like when ya said "former salt mine" at the start, my APD meant i just heard "former mine" and the middle word was just gone until i rewound and listened again even closer (only noticed i didnt catch it tho bcuz youtube sucks and loads the vid and then loads the captions; assumin that no one needs them at the start of a vid ofc 9,9) I cant even pinpt what it is about how ya said former salt mine that made my brain ignore the middle word. I think its just it was said fast enuf that my brain just assumed ya mispoke or smth, as its normal to hear someone start a word wrong and then say the right word immediately. My brain just processes out the word it thinks is superfluous This is hardly the worst case of such tho, your accent is all around quite easy for me to parse; esp moreso when compared to some of the worst examples Heck, in college before i learned how to advocate for myself i got stuck twice in a row with diff Maths teachers who taught calculus and sounded like they were spkin a diff language half the time... And not bcuz of usin maths terms They had very thick eastern european accents and sadly captions dont exist in person; so i was just sat in those classes too confused and i didnt know i cud just drop the class for that reason... Id been raised to believe that if there was ever any problem, it was solely a me problem and i had to overcome it without outside help. So i just tried powerin thru and got a D both times, bringin my GPA low enuf so i cudnt get FAFSA anymore and ruinin any chance i had at higher ed

@moniquem783

12 күн бұрын

That sounds rough to deal with. So you know though, I don't have an auditory processing disorder and I couldn't catch former salt mine the first time I heard it and had to rewind it. Even then, if the captions hadn't been there I wouldn't have caught it on the second try. Something about those few words was very difficult.

This gives “wir schaffen das” a whole new dimension🤷‍♂️🤣

@MelonEsuk

Күн бұрын

German engineering 😂

1st..DW deserve a credit on this news being the world independent news broadcaster 2nd.. We knew there will be an opportunities cost being a nuclear energy country 3rd.. Humans never learn after the chenorbly Russia Nuclear disaster till today 4th.. The human suffering on radioactive side effects will be next in line in the near future 5th.. Respect nature, human will be respected or vice versa 6th.. Last nor least.. Comes 2033, this waste will remain the same coz the clean up is too dangerous and costly for human being. Thank you DW for this great documentary.

Ok, so by the look of the containers, which are barrels: Only low- and medium-level waste get stored in barrels instead of concrete casks. Which means that it's effectively almost just regular trash, but underground.

without providing radioactivity levels, this could be blown out of proportion, it has been decaying and will continue to do so, depending on the waste, could be not as bad

as a blind person I usually enjoy your videos with their voice over in English this one however is very frustrating as I assume there are subtitles but I don't benefit from these Cheers

@DWPlanetA

16 күн бұрын

Thank you for your feedback! This was rather exceptional video for its large proportion of German. Please stay tuned for next week's video again. 🌸

@the_retag

14 күн бұрын

Is there possibly an option for automatic subtitle readers?

@vernepavreal7296

12 күн бұрын

@@the_retag no I've heard of nothing but it would be a great idea Cheers

@Praecantetia

9 күн бұрын

​@@the_retagthere is, there's certain screen readers depending on your operating system that allow you to read out subtitles. Alternatively I think the transcript might be usable enough to feed into a translator.

@Praecantetia

9 күн бұрын

​@@vernepavreal7296the unfortunate reality of being blind is that experimental software such as computer vision based ones, the thing needed here, are harder to install and test.

Great piece! The way societies and politics are set now, it's pretty predictable what will happen to this site, and several others spread around the world in many nations that face similar or even worse situations. It'll stay there until it starts leaking, at which point people will be evacuated and left without their homes, they family history, their places of origin. And it'll happen this way because of what this piece has shown - even in modern affluent developed nations, the problem is that you get a string of politicians promising to take care of the problem, but never delivering it because it's too costly, and too controversial to touch once they are in power. It's a system set for failure, as is many other large scale costly problems that several nations face. So you can only let things get to a point when the problem becomes impossible to ignore. And then it's reaction and remediation, rather than prevention. You can find many parallels to this - including the one thing that might exacerbate this very issue - Climate Change. The way out systems of governance, justice, politics and whatnot works right now, in several modern democratic nations, points out clearly to the inevitability of letting things escalate to ultimate consequences so immediate measures are needed. This is particularly true for public infrastructure failure. So, and I'm very sorry to say this for the poor people who will be directly affected by this, the most likely scenario for places like that in most nations, is that they mostly depend on luck for living in those neighborhoods, and even entire cities. At some point in the future, the inevitable will happen - radioactive material will leak on water table and contaminate the environment, a large area around it will be deemed unlivable, and then people will be left to scramble to save themselves. That's if the country is in good government hands, depending on who is elected people might not even get any warnings and just find out what happened when it's already too late. And then this zone could be chosen as a dump site, if well contained, because what else could you do there? This is the whole story of places where radioactive waste, toxic trash, and dangerous stuff ends up in. People encroach on it because they don't know, or because they ignored the warnings, and then generations later others will be paying for it. Problem here is that governments, even when they are competent enough to understand the size of the problem, won't touch the thing with a 10 foot pole because it is bound to make them unpopular one way or another. If they spend the money to do it, this will have an economic impact to the nation as a whole, and people unsympathetic to the problem will complain. If they say they won't do anything, then it's the electorate worried with the problem that will attack them. It's a loss no matter how you see it. So they will knowingly or not, try to ignore it as much as possible. And unfortunately, for all the good that the principle of alternance in power can have in funcional democracies, one of inevitable consequences is exactly the type of short term thinking that stops politicians from looking at problems for the long term. Even if we pick Germany itself, there is a contradictory move right there that shows this. And it is directly related to the topic of this very video. You see, despite this very case serving as food for anti-nuclear power types to say that we cannot safely use nuclear power for energy production, the anti-nuclear movement and how it convinced Germany's government to shut down nuclear power plants operations, turning to Russia gas production instead, is partially behind the whole crisis that the country is facing now. So, premeditated reaction based policies that are fueled by FUD will often end in a worsening situation. Which in turn gives and excuse for government to be slow to take action. Which also only worsens the situation. This whole system is why I'm making the prediction that I did. It can sound a bit alarmist and radical, but there are reasons why I think it's gonna go that way. What the people in that town, the site itself, or people vouching for a rational solution need is kind of a kamikaze politician committed to solving the problem no matter what even if it costs him his career, his life and everything else. In other words - a radical. That is very much unlikely to ever be elected. Because this is a problem that the majority of people in the country can continue living their lives ignoring, turning their backs to, and living their everyday lives not really worried about it - until the worse happens. Just like Climate Change.

Why the fork would they just dump them instead of having them neatly stacked?

@meerkathero6032

13 күн бұрын

To reduce exposure of the workforce. Dumping is much faster compared to stacking. They knew what they are handling, however tried everything to cover it up. Today's generation and many generations in the future will pay the price for this.

@DWPlanetA

13 күн бұрын

Hey Daniel! In the beginning, they have been stacked vertically. To use the space better, at one point it was decided to stack them horizontally. At some point they were dumped with a wheel loader because several could be handled at the same time and less radiation exposure. However, at that point there was no plan of retrieval at any point.

@oljackie35

7 күн бұрын

Bcs its 60's and 70's before any regulations when u could dump nuclear waste into lake and sea

@MelonEsuk

Күн бұрын

​@@DWPlanetATo reduce labour cost , That's the correct answer

Note that low level waste often contains no radioactive materials at all. This is due to very stringent safety standards, that means everything (except people, mostly) within the fence of a nuclear power plant, is, by default, classified as at least low level nuclear waste and cannot be put into municipal waste. This includes e.g. old computers, office chairs, lights, overalls, tools, shoes, floor tiles, even that sheet of paper that didn’t print properly. When we think nuclear power generates a lot of waste, we’re often misled by low level waste, that is often not actually radioactive.

As a fan of Well There's Your Problem, who did an episode of what can happen when water gets into a salt mine, this looks like a future episode just waiting to happen!

Do you think there’s any turtles living down there in the water?

@Imwhisper76ontwitch

5 күн бұрын

Teenage mutant ninja turtles 😂

@nate8930

3 күн бұрын

@@Imwhisper76ontwitch :O

Radio activities on waste remains active for thousands years without any external requirements. To make nuclear reactor fully effective we usually keep discarding weak and alive rods that makes it more dangerous. We could always have small reactor for low productivity requirements and use discarded rods completely. It's not possible to provide safety and security for thousands years. Aren't we creating and leaving problems for our own children. Just playing and laughing with children's can't be sufficient we have to keep some resources and leave healthy planet to live.

@damianthijs5113

13 күн бұрын

Waste doesn't stay dangerous for thousands of years, especially not low and mid level waste. While yes it will stay radioactive, its not dangerous levels after a few tens to hundred years. Radiation is everywhere, dose is the keyword

@oljackie35

7 күн бұрын

Low lvl waste can be recycle, mid and high lvl is stored mostly on site or specialised storage facilities. Its few dozens of times better than coal ash and oil fumes from which millions of people worldwide die from hearth, breathing illneses every year

I think the problem is exaggerated. First, we talk of low and medium radioactive waste, something such as PPE, filters, contaminated materia, that is at best dangerous for 300 years, but really just after a few decades is no longer dangerous. There is no nuclear fuel or high level waste. Second taking that waste out it will be probably more dangerous than leaving it there. Even if the mine collapses, the waste is enclosed in salt. Yes, there is problem with water that can penetrate in the soil: not a big deal, you just capture and clean it, as you would do with any other dump site. Even if water is not pumped out, its effects will be negligible, not something able to produce effects on the population. Or the chambers where the waste is can be filled with concrete (or was it already done?) to mitigate the effects. Taking it out will cost a ton of money, and can be dangerous, either for the workers that will do the job, either for the population that lives nearby that will be exposed to radiation (minimal, but greater than zero). There is really no reason to do so, take out the waste and then? Dump it in another site? Just make that site suitable for keeping the waste in it.

Far better "storing" than the ones dumped in the Mediterranean.

Very important report thank you

Steel & salt don't go well together😬 most of those drums will have rusted open by now😬

I wonder if the US would go to such measures, 600ppl working there, all the time, daily monitoring, trying to keep things safe? From what I understand, the US only pays for new infrastructure, not maintenance. Hence what happened in Texas in the winter a few years ago.

@adrianthoroughgood1191

16 күн бұрын

That's not really a similar situation. The problem in Texas wasn't lack of maintenance it was that the equipment wasn't designed to handle temperatures that low. It was a rare weather event much colder than their usual winters. The equipment is owned by private companies who can make more profit by producing and selling less electricity than they can by investing enough to keep running in cold weather to produce a little more electricity. The Texas government chose to leave it to the market rather than requiring them to protect against cold weather as is done in the rest of the country. The "maximise profits" goal is not aligned with the "produce reliable power 100% of the time" outcome that people want.

@robertchanrussell2010

16 күн бұрын

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 winterization counts as maintenance. This isn’t just a free market problem in Texas. PG&E and wildfires have been linked to a lack of maintenance. Very sad.

@meerkathero6032

13 күн бұрын

​@@robertchanrussell2010 No, gas valves and gas expansion stations got frozen in Texas. They had the choice to install valves with insulation and heating (it is a permanent feature, nothing you equip for winter and dismantle in summer) which are more expensive compared to the normal valve. Downside, the normal valve does not work if it gets really cold. Furthermore, the electricity market prices normally are low in winter. Most companies schedule power plant maintenance for the low profit time in January/ February. This free, unregulated market without any rules for minimum available capacity resulted into the load shedding. The wildfires are in deed a result of poor maintenance (we have projects in 3rd world countries which do a better job).

@MelonEsuk

Күн бұрын

You can see Mutants in few years in Txs​@@robertchanrussell2010

I guess they did notsee that coming

The last time I heard anything about this in the US, they had decided on a permanent location out west, but the locals got cold feet and were blocking it. If we had begun using our permanent storage site, we'd probably be dealing with something like the situation described in this video.

@ChimeraX0401

13 күн бұрын

Still US is really good at storing nuclear waste because of their idea of putting high level nuclear waste inside a metal cask filled with concrete and decontaminating low level nuclear trash....

@kansascityshuffle8526

12 күн бұрын

No

radiactive waste underground where water could be contaminated, they needed a better solution in the first place, or atleast carefully dumb the barrels, and use metal that can last

9:32 holy f, how could the people in charge have been so incompetent to just dump barrels containing radioactive material into this pit, damaging their seals? It wouldn't be nearly as catastrophic today if they had just properly stacked them. Saved a few Euros back in 1970, now costs billions to fix.

Brit here, always being compared economically and industrially to Germany and we berate ourselves relentlessly. How on earth has Germany got the marketing of ‘efficient, great engineering, eco friendly, etc’ when shit like this goes on in Europe. More like a banana republic.

Interesting video as usual, but could you please add subtitles too :))

@DWPlanetA

16 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching! We have English subtitles - you might just need to turn them on. ✨

Nuclear energy is very ecofriendly if done correctly. It got bad rap from Chernobyl disaster which was result of vatnik stupidity

@davidallen6434

5 күн бұрын

They Already Killed The Earth So How Do You Figure?

Doesn’t transporting the waste somewhere else create a whole new set of risks and problems in addition to those posed already present. Everyone is going to say not in my backyard but it’s already there and moving it somewhere else temporarily til they find another permanent place doesn’t make sense if they are trying to reduce the overall risk. I’m open to other viewpoints I just don’t get their position considering their interest

All this nuclear waste can be used as fuel in nuclear power plants, it just requires some modifications/upgrades to the plant.

@DWPlanetA

5 күн бұрын

For this one it's not an option anymore since the plutonium and uranium there has been mixed with other waste and due to contamination risk would be highly risky and hard to recycle. But in general recycling nuclear waste is an important topic that we are planning to look at one of our future videos! ☢️

Didn't know about this storage story

At least you have a semi secure place to store nuclear waste. In southern italy the situation is worse. Mafia and other criminal organization has put under the ground thousand o barrel. The problem is that there's farm and houses over it. As a mafia man said "it's worse than Chernobyl"

I wanna know how they got that Mercedes Sprinter down there 😂

This is like the Netflix season ,,ragnarok,, same nuclear dump struggles

When you calculate the risks its best to seal of the mines pure cement in try seal as much as possible and move the town away pay out all the land owner well and make a 20 to 50 square kilometres no go zone . Getting it out and moving it is worse it take 50 years more . No one can touch it machines picking day by day meter by meter no way think really hard the people will become more sick

Yes I have a book from 1978( English translation 1979) the nuclear state by Robert jungk. It's very worrying the absolute stupidity of every nuclear state.

Always watching from Georgetown Guyana south America 🇬🇾🇬🇾🇬🇾

Destruction of atomic waste through laser technology : this is what the Belgians are doing at Myrha in Mol. But feeding the laser is expensive, it requires the energy of one of the nuclear plants for the whole day.

You can see green energy shine trough pitch black night ! :D

And vehemently pro-nuclear voices mainly from the USA (who also intersect with anti wind and solar folks) wonder why nuclear is so unpopular. Germany really screwed this up. I was appalled to hear how carelessly the waste was handled.

@meerkathero6032

13 күн бұрын

Like everywhere else in the world. Back the days it was normal to dump nuclear waste into the landscape or the sea. Till date nobody really knows how to store nuclear waste save for the hundred-thousand years to come

@user-ou9qd9no5n

10 күн бұрын

All anti-nuclear voices (also pro-russian gas) very fine with this

@meerkathero6032

10 күн бұрын

​@@user-ou9qd9no5n Quite a lots of Europe's reactors are fueled with Uranium from Russia or from Russia's sphere of influence. France exports its nuclear waste to Russia. Rosatom dumps Nuclear waste from French reactors and La Hague into the landscape around Tomsk 7. Funfact: Rosatom is a partner for French Orano and EDF, the same people who fantasied to nuke Paris. Pro nuclear power is often pro Putin.

@maxthibodeau3627

7 күн бұрын

@@meerkathero6032 that is actually a myth, we do know how to safely store nuclear waste and have been doing for a while. this video i found explains it pretty well: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZpWJsaaRlaSzXc4.html

Salt and steel drums with radioactive waist? What were they thinking? Everyone knows that salt corrodes steel! And they still did it!

*Sabine Hossenfelder has left the chat*

@dynamogaming4953

16 күн бұрын

She is seems really abusive girl thank god atleast you are not her fan 😅

@TheHonestPeanut

16 күн бұрын

@@dynamogaming4953 she's a world class nut job.

@MutheiM_Marz

14 күн бұрын

And Kyle Hill keep being based.

@TheHonestPeanut

14 күн бұрын

@@MutheiM_Marz if by based you mean he's also a dishonest hack then yeah he's based AF.

Thank you for highlighting the problem, I wonder how many of these barrels have already leaked, good luck trying to retrieve them! What a MESS!

@evilsam4

14 күн бұрын

Aka another one that didn't watch

Germans also dump around 30K tons of waste from ore processing in Poland National park water and soil is now is contaminated by heavy metals.

This is how *not* to do nuclear waste, but we are learning every day

What is the air pressure at that depth?

@TheRealSykx

14 күн бұрын

They probably regulate it with ventilation, moving air has lower pressure

Could you fill the rest of the mine with concrete and be done with it? Even if the barrels are extracted, where do you store them? Land is a limited resource. What a conundrum..

@DWPlanetA

9 күн бұрын

Hey there! An expert group looked at different options for Asse II from 2007-2010. The options were retrieval, relocation and filling with concrete. After looking at different criteria, e.g. feasability, time, long-term safety, they came to the conclusion that retrieval is the best option. One of the reasons against filling was for example that it was not safe to say whether long-term safety can be proven for this closure option.

i did not know so how many rockets needed to throw it into space, beyond our solar system? or can it be reused for something?

Informative video as always thanks a lot

No such thing as nuclear radiation. Galen Winsor blew the whistle.

Like sweeping dust under the rug ahhhhh someone else's problem

It is a doc of green communist woke propaganda. -It was an old Potash mine that was bought for 1/2 M DM in the 60ies. -The waste stored there is low level radioacitve waste as contaminated shoes, clothing, lab equipment. -The biggest source of waste was the "Kernforschungszentrum Karlsruhe" (my father as nuclear regulator in BaWue had the responsibility). From a technical point of view Asse is overdone. In other countries this kind of waste is stored in concrete lined landfills (ex France, CSR). From a technical point of view it would make sense to flood it and close it.

Really interesting and well documented.

@DWPlanetA

12 күн бұрын

Hey there! Glad you like our video. We post videos like these every Friday. Subscribe to our channel to not miss any ✨

Too many problems to handle. And all of them come at once.

well dont dump it near Bornholm like you used to do with your chemical weapons

The 60's, N Regulatory C. Nothey are like bringing a shovel to the Saudi's thinking the Tropicana looked better. "That's why 600 people work here, to further secure the mine.

France in 60s calculated that electric energy will be near for free for households maybe with fixed small amount without electricity counters based on rapid nuclear power plants development. They not estimated used nuclear fuel storage costs and conservation of old nuclear reactors costs. That is very expensive even with cheapest option dump waste into ocean. Ocean disposal of radioactive waste - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_disposal_of_radioactive_waste. Germany near zero. Why Germany used land based disposal?

Most countries send it to England where they extract out what they need for their nuclear weapons program then i have no idea where it goes probably Africa

@tfolsenuclear should do a video on this I’d like to see what he says on this subject

I wonder if the uranium and plutonium waste can be used as fuel in CANDU reactors

@DWPlanetA

5 күн бұрын

Theoratically that could be, but in practice not really because the uranium and plutonium in Asse are mixed in with other waste for safety purposes. That's why it would likely be very hard to re-use. 🤔

Reminding me of dark series on netflix

Not surprising. Human nature is so good at keeping things out of sight and out of mind. It's the "next guy's" problem.

The problem of the Nuclear waste is not it's a radioactive waste. How can Germany damp nuclear waste like that the didn't even know what they are doing the literally dump all the ways that without monitoring which waste their damping and how they are placed. They throw nuclear waste like tennis balls. Event India store the nuclear waste very safe. How much waste and where the waste is stored is documented. The problem is what they doing with the nuclear waste. Most of the people think that nuclear wastage blue liquid with bubbles coming from it or something. The actually low level radioactive waste can be buried under your garden 🏡 there is no problem for that. Even medium level radioactive waste can be stored in simple Steel containers . The problem only with the high level radioactive waste. The highly radioactive waste is only two (2) %to three (3)% from entire nuclear waste. The main point is nuclear reactor only consume 5% of the nuclear fuel after that reactors can't produce enough energy so they need to replace the fuel. Actually highly radioactive wastage 2% or 3% the fuel can be obtained will be 95% from the highly radioactive waste that means we can minimise the highly radioactive waste, when you recycle the nuclear waste the the radiation of the nuclear waste decreases from couple of thousand years to couple of hundred years. If we recycle the nuclear waste we can minimise the radioactive time and quantity of the waste. We can Store this waste safe. This facility didn't even need to as time as normal facilities needed. If you don't want any radioactive waste from nuclear energy you can go to thorium. People may ask why don't thorium reactor didn't exist today. When nuclear energy developed countries from the around the world 🌍🌎 want nuclear weapons that's why they developed that technology, if you want to develop thorium reactors right now the problem is nuclear fuel is very cheap so government don't want to shift there resources to any thorium reactors right now.

Could the waste be stored safely in some dry places like Sahara desert or something?

@ch.k.3377

15 күн бұрын

Do you also dispose of your garbage on your neighbor’s property?! Countries that use nuclear power must be aware of the problem and solve it themselves without burdening another country with it!

@holgernarrog

15 күн бұрын

Asse is much better than most places in the dessert. It is overdone. Many countries store similar waste in concrete lined land fills. -It was an old Potash mine that was bought for 1/2 M DM in the 60ies. -The waste stored there is low level radioacitve waste as contaminated shoes, clothing, lab equipment. -The biggest source of waste was the "Kernforschungszentrum Karlsruhe" (my father as nuclear regulator in BaWue had the responsibility). From a technical point of view Asse is overdone. In other countries this kind of waste is stored in concrete lined landfills (ex France, CSR). From a technical point of view it would make sense to flood it and close it.

@MarlenNurmakov

15 күн бұрын

@@ch.k.3377 just asking

@TheRealSykx

14 күн бұрын

@@holgernarrog those same concrete lined land fills will have issues with water and erosion, this waste is on geological timescales, that's the issue.

@holgernarrog

14 күн бұрын

@@TheRealSykx Please take in account that it is low level radioactive waste!!! I would assume that these concrete linings will last for several hundred years. The waste consists of used contaminated gloves, towels, lab equipment. Radioactivity is most probably negligible after some centuries. It is more or less the same question as with other landfills as well.

I could have sword that Dark was fictional.

Well well well, it's the Dark serie plot

what is #France doing with all the nuclear waste ?they have alot of nuclear plants

@mzhardy10

12 күн бұрын

See, they have embraced nuclear power correctly. They didn't create fear mongering information so people would hate it. People have no education on nuclear waste. They hear nuclear waste and immediately think that's going to give me cancer. Waste sites are not like Chernobyl. The half life also doesn't last thousands of years when it comes to waste. France learned from mistakes of other countries and refined their nuclear plants to be safe. They were smart and realized it was a reliable source of clean energy. Nuclear is by far the cleanest energy source we could ask for. We need to educate ourselves in its truth, not the mistakes irresponsible humans made over time.

And in the future the same will happen with the E.V’s that can’t be recycled.

Why no criminal charges

leaking water with salt and the metal barrels, horrible disaster..

They just gonna pump concrete into it?

What is the price of taking out this radioactive waste?

@DWPlanetA

13 күн бұрын

Hey there!There is no current info on the retrieval of the nuclear waste itself but the cost until the retrieval can start is estimated to be at around 4.7 billion euros.

In the meantime: Germany speaks a lot about CO2 emission xD

men if that stuf got out of there we all would be dead thats more waste then chernobly

How you get a dam car down there

usually i dont give a shit about the envrionment but when its about this radioactive stuff. Fuckk tha shi