They're needed so that people don't just randomly spawn in random places... you know, like Arya teleporting or Tyrion teleporting to save Jamie

@benderthepirate

6 ай бұрын

Season 7’s “Beyond the Wall.”

I love drawing maps... sometimes I play with the idea of inventing a zero magic, bronze age, style fantasy story to match it.

@alexanderworley5235

10 ай бұрын

I'd read that

To create my maps I take elbow noodles and toss them into to piece of paper and draw around it. Completely natural and unique land mass.

@joeking6972

3 жыл бұрын

200 IQ

@The.Nasty.

3 жыл бұрын

I hope you’re a DM with creative thinking like that…

@a.e.1965

2 жыл бұрын

I smell earth see XDD

@Luke_05

Жыл бұрын

Good idea!

@dineshramchand8397

Жыл бұрын

I took a picture of the paint peeling off my water bottle in interesting shapes, gotta figure out a story for it now

I feel that, even if you aren't going to publish a map with your novel, you should still sketch one out so you know where everything is and which direction people will be going if they travel or refer to things in other regions. And use Inkarnate :-) It's awesome.

@23federik

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot mate i was Stuck on May map , now no more Hope the best to you manu awesome things

@KarstenOkk

3 жыл бұрын

i'd err on not publishing it unless really necessary. people will nitpick it to death and try to read into how long certain things should take based on how exactly the proportions are in the map, rather than how it is described in prose. it's the exact same reason most fantasy books use extremely vague signifiers of the size of armed forces, because it's incredibly hard to pin point exactly how much manpower one piece of land should realistically have.

As someone who grew up holidaying on the Dingle Peninsula I'm never looking at the Fingers the same way again 😂

@The.Nasty.

3 жыл бұрын

HA *dingle*

@namnutar

Жыл бұрын

Quandale Dingle Peninsula???

@eoghanclark165

Жыл бұрын

@@namnutar it's a peninsula on the south west coast of Ireland!

@Jolamprex

Жыл бұрын

You got berries in Dingle?

@TheEnderBand

3 ай бұрын

@@Jolamprex it was lovely growing up on the emerald isle foraging for wild Dingle berries

Lol GRRM dunks on Pat like 3-4 times in this video I love it. So people know where things are.

That was a very interesting discussion.

No wonder why Pathrick Rothfuss stopped writing books - he's off trying to figure out where hydrogen comes from.

I'm a simple man.. I hear George speak.. I laugh.

@bishopthefool

2 жыл бұрын

Patrick was pretty interesting too!

@filipkucan1695

Жыл бұрын

8 u

Patrick Rothfuss put on a good show! I've never heard of him, but I really liked listening to him and what he had to say.

@cameronomara5091

3 жыл бұрын

He has a lot more stuff across KZread, he's a great personality on stage and his books are incredible too!

@hottmengaming1790

2 жыл бұрын

You should read Name of the Wind. He wrote it and I kid you not that book is one of if not my favorite book on earth.

@williamr.s.5693

2 жыл бұрын

@@hottmengaming1790 thanks for sharing!

@xvor_tex8577

11 ай бұрын

He's very insightful, and fun to listen to. I never heard of him before, but i checked his works because he sounds intelligent and informative.

Funny how we are still waiting for these two, to release their books.

@pabloitsa

3 жыл бұрын

Who was the second one?

@brucefreadrich1188

3 жыл бұрын

@@pabloitsa Patrick Rothfuss. I have only read the 1st book of his trilogy, but it was very good. Bought the 2nd (to provide financial incentive), but I am holding off reading it until he publishes the 3rd…

@whatdisd

3 жыл бұрын

@@brucefreadrich1188 What is his trilogy?

@brucefreadrich1188

3 жыл бұрын

@@whatdisd 1st book is called "Name of the Wind" if I remember correctly??? (Not "Gone with the Wind" - that is something completely different). Don't make me get up off my ass and walk all the way over to the bookshelf to double check.

@a.e.1965

2 жыл бұрын

@@whatdisd the kingkiller chronicle trilogy, with the first book being "the name of the wind" as he said

Have the world map of asoiaf to my left on the wall, while watching this

@joeking6972

3 жыл бұрын

YOOOOOO

A Game of Thrones has a map of "The North" and "The South" then there's Prologue, Bran, Catelyn, and boom there's Daenerys in a place called Pentos that's nowhere on the maps, and your only hint as to what the hell is going on is a few mentions of The Narrow Sea vaguely related to the first part: If you watch anime or read manga, it seems whenever a world map is shown there's a 80% chance it's just the shapes of Hokkaido, Honshu, Kyushu and Shikoku rearranged a bit

Bloody good advice

This guy is a genius. ❤😂🙌🏻

Such a shame he more than likely will not get to finish his masterpiece. I believe at some point Winds of Winter will eventually come out, but there is a good chance Dream of Spring will not. His plans for a second Fire and Blood book and 3-9 more Dunk and Egg novellas obviously won't happen. Can you imagine if he would have been able to get all that done? The ASOIAF world is so rich and there are so many stories to tell, so many different people and houses to write about. His world building is amazing.

@The.Nasty.

3 жыл бұрын

That’s true 😭 damn it…

@co2_os

Жыл бұрын

He should look for a competent writer that can finish the books for him as a back up plan. It would be better than reading fan fiction.

@Dani_1012

5 ай бұрын

That's what make it tragic 😢

@jake.presents

2 ай бұрын

They'll get easier to write after TWOW. The first books were faster, because most characters were near each other, but as the story progresses to 'The Middle' of the story, everyone is scattered, requiring more POVs. Now they're coming together in the big battles (Mereen, Winterfell, and possibly Storms End). Once these battles are resolved, the after-events will be the characters continually re-converging, with fewer POVs.

Preston Jacobs needs to watch this video. It'll be his first step on a long road to recovery.

Map are necessary for a fantasy world, not just because Tolkien did it.

No one: Rothfuss: I swear I don't enjoy the sound of my own voice, but if you insist...

George would make the best grandfather he could literally tell the grand kids literal stories but he doesn't have kids, does he? it's sad that all the best people in the world don't have kids and all the shittiest people have kids

@AmethystEmpressDivineTarot6589

3 жыл бұрын

We are his kids! He tells us wonderful stories even in interviews and cons like this one. 😉

@joeking6972

3 жыл бұрын

I wish I could literally tell kids literal stories.

@The.Nasty.

3 жыл бұрын

@@joeking6972 but you literally can’t, can you? :( That’s literally the saddest thing I’ve ever heard… Literally.

@araisikewai

3 жыл бұрын

If he had kids, I can guarantee that there's not a single book getting published. Plenty of the greatest people doesn't have children, because their body of work is where their sense of achievement lay. Having family takes second place to the work. Meanwhile, a lot of people who has children, would rather step back from the work and let their children be their achievement. Instead of being proud of their own achievement, they would rather be proud of their children achievements.

@joeking6972

3 жыл бұрын

@Arai See I disagree; Dostoyevsky had kids and he was one of humanities greatest writers.

Can't wait for Lands of Winter❄⛄ 🔥🐲

@cba2make1up

Жыл бұрын

Winds

@1210edu

5 ай бұрын

My queen 😍😍😍

Martin is quite right. Maps are there so the reader knows where stuff is. It's kind of important when people are talking about and moving around entirely made up places. Rothfuss's stuff about it just being Tolkien's influence is an overcomplicated and unlikely explanation. Occam's razor works here.

@jamesw5287

10 ай бұрын

I do like how he mentions that a map could serve a narrative purpose as well, like in The Hobbit's case it was the literal map they used in the story. Not always necessary, but still interesting to think about.

@AstaraBrightwing

3 ай бұрын

It's kind of odd for you to invoke Occam's Razor here. "Lots of authors do it because the most influential writer in the genre, from whom almost all of their works partly derive, did it," isn't exactly an unlikely hypothesis. I'd guess that for every writer who makes a map because they feel it's necessary, another writer makes a map because they just feel like that's what they're supposed to do.

Yeah, i want to make a map but i am terrible, i dont want to but im gonna have to find a country that suits the shape of my continent in my head

Well I’m from Riverrun then.

I make a map for my world because *I* need to know where everything is and I'm not necessarily gonna put the map in the book

Where can I see this whole panel? I’d love to see the whole thing.

@Nick-ry4mk

3 жыл бұрын

Check the description

@lizlezzario6977

3 жыл бұрын

It's in the internet

@bishopthefool

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, every discussion involving both G.R.R. Martin and Patrick Rothfuss is probably worth watching!

@Dani_1012

5 ай бұрын

​@@bishopthefoolFunny that they're two writers with incredible stories who can't seem to finish them

All ...

How many more clips of George do you have aegon

@gabrielionuttafalogu6214

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully a lot

@MrHumptdumpty

3 жыл бұрын

Enough to reach the release date of a dream of spring

Sheesh

Title should be renamed to Rothfuss lol

Westoros map is just England with a neck, and an upside down Ireland

These people are easily amused. I bet if you asked them what they said on the panel, they'd go "Idunno, but it was funneh"

@midnightbounty7442

3 жыл бұрын

ikr, these people laugh at anything...

@MGWorldwide

3 жыл бұрын

This is what California/LA showbiz adjacent crowds are like. I found it odd when i first moved here

O the laughs, applauses and mumbles...

Half of Westeros is Ireland flipped upside down....

@mi_-lt4ws

3 жыл бұрын

Looks more like England

@n4s98

3 жыл бұрын

@@mi_-lt4ws flip it upside down and the majority is literally ireland

@tobe1207

2 жыл бұрын

He says that

@n4s98

2 жыл бұрын

@@tobe1207 I know, I commented it before he said it in the video

GRRM is a geek for... killing characters? lol

@cruc1fye

11 ай бұрын

History

Tell him to go home and finish writing book 6

The two slowest writers in fantasy

@joshuakruebbe3762

3 жыл бұрын

Grrm writes fantasy?

@lutherfloyd597

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuakruebbe3762 how clever

@cerostymc

3 жыл бұрын

Tbh I think the process that takes the longest time (even more than the writing process) is the planning. Of course that depends on the story you're writing. For example, when writing a story in the "real" world, you don't have to spend hundrets of hours developing a fictional word with diffrent cultures, landscapes, mythologies, politics etc. But especially for fantasy books designing a whole f*cking world will take a lot of time. But that's not the only thing you have to do. You still need to develop a plot (or multiple in this case), create complex characters etc. And in a book series so long and complex and detailed as A Song of Ice and Fire, that takes a huuuuge amount of time...

@lutherfloyd597

3 жыл бұрын

@@cerostymc nice essay

@Ar1AnX1x

3 жыл бұрын

you can't have the most detailed, vast, intertwined, hundreds of unique characters, a massive detailed world, everything being connected to each other and foreshadowed and affected by each other and overall something that takes more effort than any other story and also having it being finished in time as well. I don't think people understand how much effort needs to go in to the last two or three books, since it has to make sense, everything that's already been established has to be taken in to consideration and overall he can't just sit down and write since everything is connected to each other and he has to take in to account no matter which story line he's writing.

once again, the audience was SO ANNOYING! Being so loud, laughing at literally everything... I had to *focus* to hear what Martin was saying

@invidiousone3662

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, darn those atendees! Enjoying the pannel they payed to attend and blocking out the sound so the person recording on their phone couldn't get clean audio!

@IamPatrickStar

3 жыл бұрын

Which is why I wished it was a private interview and not in public

Saying people wanting maps for fantasy is because of tolkien is hilarious to me, he does realize we've been mapping our own world for milleniums, right?

is this entire audience coked up, i cant even hear what hes saying but it doesnt even sound funny

Let's be honest, cartography is not George's strong suit. Westeros and Essos look weird and unnatural as landmasses

@markekar6021

3 жыл бұрын

lol, i mean.... like he said, theyre just upside down real maps. so theyre pretty natural as landmasses

@tiberiuscodius5828

3 жыл бұрын

@@markekar6021 not really. He scales them up so much that a lot of the features are unfeasible in reality. The Fingers, for instance, would never exist. Also, all his landmasses are strangely long and straight. Essos is the worst offender. It's just so ugly to look at

@tobe1207

2 жыл бұрын

Well it's fantasy, physics can be different

@tiberiuscodius5828

2 жыл бұрын

@Takeda Shingen are you going to elaborate or...?

@tiberiuscodius5828

2 жыл бұрын

@Takeda Shingen lmao

14 years? i could do a map in 14 hours and have it be spectacular. wtf?

@dechain1927

3 жыл бұрын

congrats

@Windraesa

2 жыл бұрын

link?

@cba2make1up

Жыл бұрын

where is it then

@markekar6021

Жыл бұрын

@@cba2make1up what a silly response. I got 10 of em. Send me your info. I only charge 20 bucks a map

@markekar6021

Жыл бұрын

@@dechain1927 thanks bruh

Yeah, Tolkien was a linguist, creating a language was his idea of a good time, as it is for most language geeks. As a language geek myself, I can attest that they have a fascination with language at a very fundamental level. How languages are different, how they're similar, what phonemes does this language utilize compared to this one, and so on. Or, most intriguingly, how a language evolves with time, how that evolution influences and is influenced by culture, and how a language affects and informs its speakers' very perception of the entire world. When you share these fascinations, creating your own *_conlang_*_ (constructed language)_ just sounds like a good time. Otherwise, or if it sounds boring to you, then skip it. If you don't have a passion for it your conlang is gonna fall flat. But, *_ɪf juːv lɝnd haʊ tə ɹid IPA dʒʌst fɔːɹ fʌn,_* then creating a language is right up your alley

George should have used Hexographer.