Constantly asking when something is going to be finished, only to be given more and more delays. Truly, Preston’s child has known the ASOIAF fan experience.

@ryanrogers2224

7 ай бұрын

Preston’s kids just innately and mentally know the plot right now and can sense GoT nerd fights like The Shining.

@Mofi357

7 ай бұрын

2 more minutes ,I promise.

@kitkat6959

7 ай бұрын

Blud just wants to look out the window

@ElWrighto

7 ай бұрын

😂😂

@X525Crossfire

7 ай бұрын

No wonder George never had kids; his style of parenting would be to string them along on promises.

"i need 2 minutes" *1 minute passes* "do you still need 1 more minute" BRO I AM DYING

@WinterTor

3 ай бұрын

Preston Jacobs got out smarted by child 😂

What amazes me the most is that George wanted the story to go way further than it actually did even after spliting the book in two. The garden really out grown its gardner

"So long to wait" Preston's kid is a metaphore for the whole fandom😂

The slow transition of this channel to a parenting videoblog is definitely a twist I didn't see coming.

Great video and I was very amused with Preston's child lol. The irony of "10 minutes is too long to wait" while making a ASOIAF video is amazing!

@pcharl01

7 ай бұрын

It's more amazing reading this as his child is initially speaking to him then looking at the time and there's actually 20 minutes left in the video.

Preston telling his son "one more minute" is a metaphor for Martin saying when he'll finish Winds.

I assumed that the "Tyrion: Witness to incest" bit was about his value to Dany, since this outline plays with the idea of them meeting up towards the end of the book. It would make sense for Dany to keep him around if he could help her cause by proving that the current claimants to the Iron Throne (Tommen/Myrcella) are illegitimates born of Cersei and Jaime's incest.

@adashofbitter

7 ай бұрын

Ohhhh - I think this is 100% right. It’s not saying he witnesses incest in the book but that he is a witness to the incest that illegitimises Tommen.

@alanpennie

7 ай бұрын

​@@adashofbitter I agree too.

@ewoknips5154

4 ай бұрын

Same, they way it says "Witness to incest" and not "witnesses incest" makes me feel she was keeping him around to have someone to vouch for her when she says that the Baratheon line aren't Baratheons but are incest bastards from Jaime

@LuisEPGomes

20 күн бұрын

Not only your explanation makes too much sense, but I also think this will still be Tyrion's argument to convince Dany to accept him in court.

@smithgdwg

11 күн бұрын

@@LuisEPGomes Yep it makes sense why Dany would keep Tyrion around. I know she probably thinks Tommen ruling is illegitimate anyways without Incest, but it would help convince other lords to her cause.

Preston, you make it hard to get mad or annoyed with you when your kid is so freaking adorable.

Damn, Preston. That interaction with your kid is so heartwarming! I hope one day that I have sufficient patience to be a parent like that.

"a girl is Arya Stark, and I'm going home!" looks like that phrase is taken from that outline

I'm pretty sure the Tyrion thing is that he can be a witness of incest. Like speak of his sister and brothers incest as a witness, not him actually seeing anything. Bu this is also nearly 20 years old. So not much of any of this probably means anything.

Preston’s kid interrupting the stream is the cutest shit ever

Preston’s child repeatedly coming into the room was very amusing. It reminded me of my younger siblings when they were around that age.

After three decades, I don't think George remembers all the potential schemes and conspiracies he set up, which is why he keeps adding new ones. This is probably one of the reasons why the books could never end satisfyingly, since most would end up and answered by that directly or indirectly.

@TheEnecca

7 ай бұрын

I dont think thats true. If you are working constantly on that world (through books and tv shows) you are not forgetting stuff like that.

@MrBell-iq3sm

7 ай бұрын

@@TheEnecca I don't know. Many things were set up very early on, and he keeps adding more and more facets. His work over the past 12 years has been rather lackluster. I know that he hasn't forgotten the Grand Northern Conspiracy, but I don't think he remembers everything he set up and many loose ends will remain, in case the story ends.

Tyrion definitely knows. First convo between tyrion and cersie in clash, and Jamie has inner-dialogue reflecting that Tyrion knew that joffery was his in storm.

Love that Trey is getting on these more

@OfficialRedTeamReview

7 ай бұрын

you're welcome

@DannyWonder

7 ай бұрын

Trey’s cool af

I always thought Tyrion knew about his siblings being together. Why else would he think telling Jaime about Cersei's lovers would hurt him in that way?

@fabvz5436

7 ай бұрын

He literally knew and said so on Cersei's face in a Clash of Kings

@ACinemafanatic

4 ай бұрын

@@fabvz5436lol “careful I may get angry” Tyrion is such a little troll to his sister I love it

Tyrion knows about the incest "That you were fucking our sweet Jaime?" She slapped him. "Did you think I was as blind as Father?" Tyrion rubbed his cheek. "Who you lie with is no matter to me . . . although it doesn't seem quite just that you should open your legs for one brother and not the other." he also throws it in Jamies' face when he gets rescued from the black cell "I killed your vile son." but he probably knows in game of thrones, he hints at it when he's "curious" about what Bran might say.

@OfficialRedTeamReview

7 ай бұрын

But did he *witness* it? That's another matter all together. It's implied he pieced it together

37:54 “Two Minutes” Streams for 9 minutes 55 seconds longer Preston is Doran confirmed 😂

Preston your kids can interrupt anytime! So precious! ❤

Hey Preston! Your boy is so cute! In case you wanted to cut it out, just wanted you to know its in there, and at one point he is in frame

“Let’s let Preston read it, then he’ll tell us.” Lmao 🤣

@lillianasanchez5984

7 ай бұрын

... and yet Trey of course read it ❤

@DG-zg2bg

7 ай бұрын

they both read it though? Carmine posted details about it in his discord the day this came out but hes having preston give out the details for the audience who hadn't read it

@OfficialRedTeamReview

7 ай бұрын

@@DG-zg2bg pretty much how we've done things for years, yeah. ryon upset i had to spank him on twitter cuz he was cheer-leading for elon

Pretty sure in Clash internally Tyrion admits he knows about the incest and chides Cersei for being so careless and not having at least one child with Robert.

@adashofbitter

7 ай бұрын

Yeah plus in Storm the whole reason he taunts Jaime with “Lancel and Osmund and Moonboy too” is because he knows they’re sleeping together.

Hey, maybe d&d went with the orginal outline on some aspects since they wanted to focus more on the main characters. Geroge later on invents tons of side characters which d&d didnt think they needed.

-GRRM in '03 : "Yeah I think that I can cut Sam for the next book" -His editor: "RELEASE THE SAM CUT!"

With the Mountain's missing teeth, in the AFfC that was published, Cersei does receive a dwarf head with no teeth, and it even comes in a giant box that makes her think how big Tyrion's head is. Though it takes place in Cersei VIII, long after Balon left for Dorne...

Your kid sounds exactly like mine. Sometimes, it's a relief to know that it's not just my child who acts like that! I applaud your patience. You're doing great.

The "Tyrion witness to incest" part, to me that explains that lingering look Tyrion gave Jon and Dany near the end of season 7. George might of given Dave & Dan a copy of these notes, they saw that phrase, but no context to go along with it. So they stuck it in at the end of season 7 with hope that George publishes the next book and possibly gives that line some meaning. That didn't happen, so it was basically just dropped.

I have so much sympathy for your kid. Related side note: Long ago, I worked at LucasArts. Didn’t really have any interaction with George Lucas, but he would come to the most important parties. The most family friendly on was always the 4th of July picnic at his Ranch. One year this girl was calling out for “daddy” over and over and George came running over to see what was wrong. The lesson was that no matter how big you are in the real world, to your kids, you’re always just Daddy.

@OfficialRedTeamReview

7 ай бұрын

Interesting. Would like to know more about your time at LucasArts, if you don't mind sharing

@hughmoore2143

7 ай бұрын

@@OfficialRedTeamReview LucasArts was the games division, and for most of my time there wasn’t even in the same location as LucasFilm or ILM, so we didn’t do all that much with them. We rarely saw anyone famous. There were long hours and low pay (typical of the games industry back then). As a result, there was plenty of craziness, but it was mostly normal overworked office craziness, not cool Star Wars dirt. For a fun little story, I’ll offer this. Once there were several kids visiting the office. My manager, trying to be friendly asked of them, “Do you like Star Wars?” The kid pointed at an action figure set-up on my manager’s desk featuring Jango and young Bobo Fett, and said, “That’s me.” My manager, looked confused for a moment, and said, “You like Jango Fett?” The kid said, “No, that’s me.” It was then that my manager realized that the kid was Daniel Logan, the actor who played young Boba Fett.

Preston’s kid running in was so heartwarming lol

Preston's kid was the best part of this, I could FEEL the impatience through the screen. That window was so important in that moment 😂

4:28 Dani, pretend its a horse. Glidus fans proven right.

@overlookers

7 ай бұрын

_"You and Jon- a horse."_

@caydenl.4878

7 ай бұрын

"Wherever horse go"- Tywin Lannister, probably

Classic kids, walking in just to cough everywhere xD

22:00 - Preston, The mountain isn’t just really tall he has gigantism. It’s where you have a pituitary tumour causing overproduction of growth hormone. I think this is the case due to Gregor being significantly taller than any other human, without recent giant ancestry , and is much bigger than his close relative Sandor. Also, the mountain is said to have terrible headaches that he drinks to dull the pain. Headaches are a symptom of gigantism. Also I don’t think dwarfs have larger heads. The heads just look large because their body is small. There is some bulbous skull deformation but overall it’s no bigger than a non-dwarf persons skull.

@TheEnecca

7 ай бұрын

Do people with gigantism have larger skulls?

@johkupohkuxd1697

7 ай бұрын

@@TheEnecca To my knowledge if the condition developes after the person has already grown to around their natural height, then the growth instead goes to their head and feet. For example "Bigfoot" Silva, a Brazilian MMA fighter with gigantism has an Eastern Island head to go with his feet. He is 6'4 too which isn't an unnatural height.

@umwha

7 ай бұрын

@@TheEnecca Yes they do

The big question on all our minds while watching the show was how much D and D were going to build their own plots, take some George's alternative plots or stick with George's A plan. I think the most likely thing that happened was that once D and D passed the test with George, they then got access to see all of George's ideas. Then they worked out how what was going to be the carve out for George to pursue later. That's the way things normally happen. This outline sound like a version of the condensed universe that D and D could put on television.

I understood the 'tyrion - witness the incest' as tyrion being a witness to Jaime and cersei incest and hurting tommen/myrcella claim to the throne

@Viffido

7 ай бұрын

It's probably this. He will tell people the truth, he's "the witness"

@OfficialRedTeamReview

7 ай бұрын

Tyrion never implied he witnessed when he confronted Cersei on it in Clash of Kings, only that he pieced it together. Had he witnessed it he would've said as much or implied that he caught them *back* in Clash.

@Viffido

7 ай бұрын

@@OfficialRedTeamReview I think they mean he will function as "a witness" to hurt Cersei and Tommen when they get back to Westeros, maybe in the original outline he tells the golden company AND Dany about this, and that it's not a rumor, as he saw it happening.

@malvy4974

7 ай бұрын

​@@OfficialRedTeamReviewhe never directly said he had any proof but he did make it clear to cersei that he knew and also to Jaime later in asos when he escaped from kl

@matthewbird1067

7 ай бұрын

​@@OfficialRedTeamReview it looks to me like the first plan for Tyrion after the 5 year gap was dropped was just a redemption tour down the Rhoyne for Tyrion, with Aegon not thought up yet. The "curing psychic pain" stuff could be dealing with Tyrion witnessing it as a child and repressing it/further bullying from his father to gaslight it out of him. Adding some more justification for his kinslaying.

i am cracking up ur kid just looked right at you and coughed lmao

Dad Preston is so wholesome

Always interesting to see how authors outline. Thanks for the vid

ah yes the concept of "just two more minutes". smart kid, dont let them bullshit you!

Tyrion tells Cersei straight to her face he knows in the first chapter on Clash.

Preston giving the ‘two minutes’ routine - eight minutes later!

How much money do we have to raise on Patreon to unlock Preston reading 'Go the F* to Sleep' in a Dad voice?

The missing teeth might be that Gregory notably has a few missing teeth, but the skull does not. Qyburn would do something like that to screw Cersie. It would totally expose Cersie as a liar.

Preston named his son Sky + he's sickly. Sweetrobin the saviour confirmed.

"I'm certain to somebody this is very entertaining" guilty

THE BOY IS BACK! LOOKIT THAT BEARD!

GRRM PLANNED IT ALL

It seems to me that there was an error in Sansa's section, "news from W.H." (White Harbor) may be "news from W.M." (Wyman Manderly). Instead of an H that looks like an M. It is similar in content, but perhaps the news is that Wyman found Rickon, and this could go against her claim to Winterfell.

Been waiting for you guys to cover this. Haven’t even watched it yet but already liked

Logical to me: When Brienne fights “the hound”, it could be Lem Lemoncloak maybe because Jamie asks for a trial by combat and Brienne is his champion. She defeats “the hound” but stoneheart wont let another tyrion-esque escape happen, and Brienne probably kills stoneheart. Echoes a lot of earlier happenings, and oathkeeper keeps several oaths.

Preston delaying making time for his kid is reminiscent of GRRM delaying WoW.

You said you only need 2 minutes and we can see the video lasted more than 10 more minutes Poor kid v_v

@theboy1625

7 ай бұрын

Can’t blame Preston if his kid kept coming back every 10 seconds

As an author, my outlines tend to be this vague until I'm closer to that chapter. However, I outline chapter by chapter which I'm sure would boil George's blood

@theboy1625

7 ай бұрын

I’ve been thinking about outlining for every 500 pages

Hahaha Preston and Son moments are the best

TWO MORE MINUTES?!?! LOL, I love it. I wish my kids were still that young, they don't even want me FOR two minutes anymore.

@DrZaius3141

7 ай бұрын

Give them space and the time will come again.

I was waiting for this video. Glad to see it!

Love listening especially when Trey is on. Keep doing it guys

At 26 minutes you said 10 minutes. You went on for 20 minutes, poor Sky.

Preston Jacobs is such a sweet dad.

Best stream ending. Grinning ear to ear

PJ IS BACK FOMOS

16:01 - I just now realized... Davos probably WAS going to originally rescue fake Arya. Then George found out that Theon was better suited for it. And then he realized "Wait a minute, what do I do with Davos now? He's meant to save a Stark." and so then he came up with Davos going to rescue Rickon so both Theon AND Davos could have a Stark to save.

I saw George's name and some dates next to it and had a mini heart attack for a microsecond...

The key pate steals is a master key of sorts so it makes sense that he changed it to that bc he can now steal the book and glass candles with the key.

@jonttopia

7 ай бұрын

Kinda like preston described it, GrrM hasn't decided what the faceless man actually wants so the key allows him to just kick the can down the road.

@michaelhenry3234

7 ай бұрын

@@jonttopia I think he knows what the faceless man wants in an abstract sense, something against dragons, since he's clearly set up Braavos and the faceless men to be against Valyria and dragons. But the actual specific MacGuffin to achieve that goal is up in the air. We know he's gone back and forth on glass candles, so it could be that the book was a replacement MacGuffin for if he scrapped the glass candles.

Thank you Preston for bringing up to Carmine that horrible insult of gay men being pedos. Carmine started saying that and I got unconfortable, him proposing the only gay pov being a pedo, yikes. I know George is better than that, and no, I don't think there can't be bad gay men, Lyn Corbray most probably is a pedo, or at least, a psycho and that's ok, I want a different type of characters, either gay or straight, but making the only pov into that horrible low punch would be horrible.

@GameofThronesPodcast

7 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure Carmine wasn't trying to be a jerk about it and was only trying to clue in who it could've been, especially considering he and Trey are good friends and Trey has been open about being gay.

@Viffido

7 ай бұрын

@@GameofThronesPodcast Let me clarify: I never said Carmine was being malicious, I said I got unconfortable with the proposal o the only gay pov being a pedo, and I thanked Preston for bringing up how bad it would be for George to do that and the reasons behind it, being a horrible common insult in the real world against gay men (which I am) but again, nothing against Carmine, it's only that his "theory" gave me an irk taste.

The news from White Harbor is likely about Rickon. The north would rally for the last son of Eddard Stark. Sansa would want to get to Rickon.

Such a patient kiddio! He waited!

I could see Tyrion on his long, introspective rides ruminating about his father and siblings get hung up on his father’s blindness to the flaws of the twins and flashback to like witnessing them and saying something to Tywin and remembering his dad going crazy and cursing Tyrion while defending them and ignoring the hints…as he did for the next 20 years to everyone’s downfall.

Any chance that George writing Blood and Fire instead of Fire and blood denote any blackfyre loyalty?

I mean i fucking HOPE that's what George was doing with D&D! I have this wish fulfillment idea that he had duped everyone with the shows ending just so he can see what stuff doesnt work and then hes gonna surprise us all with his way better version for the books that will TOTALLY BE READY SOON! 😂 And in my head i just hope that that wou ok d explain all the delays...

I am normally really annoyed by family interruptions in content creators' videos, but I have to admit Preston and his son seem to have a very cute relationship :)

I definitely like the balance of the Three-man Broadcast. I feel like it works better for the flow and dynamics. Carmine is Play by Play, Preston is Color Commentary, and Trey is the NFL Ref in NYC. Also yeah most authors churn out shit and just see what sticks as they go along. It’s all about mojo and how you get it going. Most writers just gotta write man. There’s a lot of shit that’s terrible. Brian Herbert for example. After Chapterhouse it’s all Duncan Idaho Jackoff fantasy.

Cute kid, Cute parenting.

Sky: perfect hair Preston: Cueball

"People with dwarfism do have larger heads than humans" Lmao

*preston was not there in 10 minutes* love seeing the little rascal

Preston excuse the pun but, your son is da man bro!!! That was awesome!!!

Preston son is dont belive in teories.... so kute... love the away u speek with him..lovely

Does anyone know anything about the picture in the background? Looks neat!

I think Tyrion witness to incest must be that when he’s on the boat he puts together that Jaime and Cersei were together. … however I do like the idea that Griff was having a pederastic relationship with Young griff. That seems pleasingly complex, semi historical, yet ripe for critical portrayals.

You missed a comment made by gsteff regarding the pink letter

I ve been waiting for this since Carmine covered it.

I think the incest witnessed by Tyrion might be Penny with his brother, before his brother was killed and beheaded to try to claim the ransom on Tyrion's head.

Varys is hiding in plain sight posing as Dorcas Cersei's new maid which strings a cloth as a fake mouse and makes Tommen chase it 😅

In regards to the outline being kind of like the show, I can see a potential reason why. It's clear that the show originally didn't want to bother with the Dorne plot as it was in the books. They didn't want to bother with the Ironborn at all originally. And they didn't want to bother with Young Griff at all. So it wouldn't be surprising to me if somewhere around the end of season 4 D&D went to George and were like "Hey George, we want to scrap all these plotlines. Before you came up with them, what were you gonna do?" and then George showed them this outline from before he came up with those plotlines. And then they drew inspiration from that just because they thought if they followed the original storyline they wouldn't get too far off track.

Death of Dragons=Dance of Dragons? In the show Joff and Shireen talk about the Dance, but in books the death of dragons is mostly attributed to the Dragon Pit and not even the storming of the dragon pit. In books we mostly just hear that the dragons small size was due to dragon pit but in Dance we realize the small sizes of the last dragons was b/c the dragons were killed in combination of Dance and the storming of the dragon pit. Basically what I am saying is that the maesters covered up what happened in the Dance to the point that even the Faceless Men don't know what happened. Of course, imo the Faceless Men and Targs are on the same team. Just too much of of a coincidence that the Targs escaped while the FM claimed responsibility for the fall of Valyria

@mbrad5179

7 ай бұрын

Yes. There are no weak and small dragons being borne, except maybe those that are being poisoned. And yes, the faceless men getting/being on team T, but we just don't at what point.

*Son comes in impatiently* "I'm sure someone finds this entertaining...maybe I'll edit it out." *I* was very entertained and will not stand for the censoring of young voices! In all seriousness, it's relatable, and quite amusing. How long before his first tinfoil theory drops? Is Peppa Pig actually a cannibal? Or is she Ms. Piggy's secret love child, and there was a baby swap? So much potential!

Would it fit the timeline for the dwarf head that got sent to Dorne was Penny's brother?

tyrion witness to incest = he is gonna be a witness for Aegon to recruit aupport from lords by his testimony of incest or at least was! gives reason for griff to keep him along, thats what said in the burnt letter maybe?

I can relate to the sick, interrupting kid sooooooooo much. It's a fun age... as awesome as it is to see your kids grow and all that, you do miss the early years. My youngest is five, and it's hard knowing that that part of parenthood is almost over for me. Maybe not everyone is on board with this, but I had to chuckle throughout that whole bit.

The missing teeth in the “mountains skull” could it actually have been swapped out with Oberyn’s skull? He had his teeth punched out by the mountain

GRRM: 2 more years... I promise.

@mitchellhouser1572

7 ай бұрын

That is too long to wait!

Preston's kid is already talking....how much time has gone by?!

@mitchellhouser1572

7 ай бұрын

He has two sons I think

@kogababe

7 ай бұрын

@@fazediamond5671 That's even worse, didn't know a second one came about

Back are we and

Or maybe, Jon wasn't supposed to die at all. What if we relate "End with Hardhome" part to the blurb about I have got the armour etc. What fight was the Part 2 fight if in Part 3 Jon is ending with the resolution to go to Hardhome?

Omg PJ sky is so big

I think your right, that's the outline Georges send them.

When the similarities to show plot-points were brought up it gave me pause. At first I thought about whether George would be spiteful enough to share older book outlines with them when he had already altered the story in Feast/Dance, but then it dawned on me that this could have been D&D's idea in the first place. They ran out of book material at some point and wanted to end it quicker than what HBO or George wanted, so maybe they were fine with misdirecting the book readers with plot-points that are less likely to be published. George has obviously always stressed that the two stories wouldn't be identical but maybe this was closer to being intentional in the end anyway?

@wwcyfd22

7 ай бұрын

I think that around season four they realized that George wasn't going to finish the next book before they ran out of material and so they had a sit down with him and he gave them a bunch of old outlines ideas for them to pad things out with, all the while claiming to be "mostly done" with Winds. Then they ran out of that material too within a couple seasons and so they just half assed the rest of the show to get out as soon they could.