George did bring up good points. George tried to give Carmen the advantages that he never had as a kid. Carmen had the privilege of going to a private school that his parents could barely afford but end up getting expelled due to missing an important test to be with a good for nothing loser. She had the privilege of being homeschooled but never took it seriously. She seems to care more about Jason, her looks, and hair

@bobtaylor3945

4 жыл бұрын

Her mom tried to homeschool her and carmen gives her attitude and angie still sides with her against george???,man angie your an sweet lady but your sooo sooo softed

@leoroemer6085

4 жыл бұрын

She was an attention seeker with low self-esteem. George blamed himself for that due to not being there enough for her when she was little and losing his temper.

@ricky18redblack31

4 жыл бұрын

Angie is an enabler. George was just being honest. Carmen is just having a rough time swallowing that red pill.

@yankee1147

3 жыл бұрын

So basically every girl. Got it

@patriciaolivera7716

3 жыл бұрын

@@yankee1147 You obviously haven't met every girl. Lol sexist.

C-C-C-C-College! Hahaha

@wyattpeterson6286

5 жыл бұрын

Mike Greensmith and that D stood for damn I was almost a C

@shadow-man8715

4 жыл бұрын

Unless you're studying stem or business going to college is a big waste of time and money.

@eltonyescas5425

4 жыл бұрын

Mike Greensmith i agree that is funny. There's another episode where George mocks Max and says D-D-D-D-D. He said Max's report card looks like it has a stutter. Which is why he proceeded to say all those D's. Indicating Max only gets D's.

@towns316

4 жыл бұрын

C’s get degrees George

@biggestboi9732

4 жыл бұрын

D is for for Damn i was almost a C lol

Well he did bring up good points.

@exodustimes4266

6 жыл бұрын

mothafuckathomaselliot I'm agree to

@ryderbenson8472

6 жыл бұрын

Like what, I also hope Carmen takes College seriously and doesn't make out and have Sex with any of the Teachers !!!

@jcbentleyalley154

6 жыл бұрын

Ryder Benson her character was not a hoe Just ur adverage teen girl she's smart tho so she never cheated on Jason either he did now he might sleep wit a professor male or female for a good mark not Carmen

@ReaLifeVideos420

6 жыл бұрын

This show is great when it comes to the serious moments but they always have to ruin it with some dumb joke.

@garytaylor3880

5 жыл бұрын

@@cocoafemme47 well no shit. Its not like he had a good role model growing up. Your experiences shape how you view and deal with things.

"Cause if you defeat a tired George, really what have you won?" Lmao

@obie3188

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@joelouise2009

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely nothing

Damn.....Almost a C

@AceSolomon94

3 жыл бұрын

That's why Max is worth 5 Grand & Carmen is 20....2 hundred 😂💯

@estebangutierrez160

Жыл бұрын

And Benny is free of charge

I know what George said was wrong since he never pushed Carmen into trying hard, but can you really blame him? He brought up valid points on how all Carmen care about is her looks and boys. With public school she was forced out (which I don’t blame her), she got kicked out of private school due to running away during important tests, and broke rules. Carmen even acted lazy when Angie homeschooled her.

@CrazyClara101

5 жыл бұрын

She’s a teenager, they’re all like that

@mayren17

5 жыл бұрын

Being a teenager or not you screw up 2 time the 3rd should not be given

@lilirodriguez8851

4 жыл бұрын

CrazyClara101 Only teenagers who weren’t raised to be intelligent and act like adults but there are teenagers more mature as well

@ohtongodinez6444

4 жыл бұрын

You can't push a boulder alone sometimes you need help that's why you and your partner have to be on the same page or else your child will always look for the weakest link.

@rhinestonecowboy9967

4 жыл бұрын

Lili Rodriguez Maybe being raised by an overly emotional mom and dad who suppresses all his feelings who dated since highschool kind of has to do with how she is such a shit show lol

To be fair...George had a point....

@turtleking7772

5 жыл бұрын

Having Tea With the Devil she went to College though

@SuperiorPhantom-dx6vh

5 жыл бұрын

TurtleKing777 But the question is how long

@cocoafemme47

5 жыл бұрын

@Stasis Field: And.... despite Jorge's total LACK of encouragement, Carmen got admitted into college AND.....did well!!! GO....Carmen.

@aeroromeo7431

4 жыл бұрын

Sonal Nayak He never said she had no potential just that she didn’t show any. And looking at all the bad things she’s done, he’s not wrong.

@aeroromeo7431

4 жыл бұрын

Cocoa Femme Thanks to George. If he didn’t say what he said, she never would’ve taken school seriously.

George was entirely justified in his feelings and points, but he should've phrased it better. What she didn't realize and neither parent bothered to point out was the college is way too expensive to suck at it and the professors don't care if you show up and meet standards or not. They get paid, period. If you need a couple bumps along the way in K-12 to make it, the teachers will help you. With Carmen's attitude towards literally everything, those professors would laugh in her face and say better luck next semester. She needed that eye opening talk but instead she got what seemed like her dad not believing she would amount to anything.

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

How should George have phrased his words?

@bevofan123

3 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonySmith-lg7ew something along the lines of saying how difficult college is and that you’re mostly on your own. You can’t screw up a few dozen times and expect to even be able to afford to keep trying. Carmen made a lot of mistakes and always sought to blame others. This would not have resulted in college success and George could’ve pointed out THOSE things instead of just saying she had no potential.

Big facts!! If you ain’t going to show potential then there’s going to be no progress

George has a point, with Carmen's school status no college is gonna take her seriously.

@liam6170

Жыл бұрын

He definitely could have phrased it better

@kazallroberts

Жыл бұрын

@@liam6170 Yeah, he should of.

@redips

2 ай бұрын

@@liam6170 but he didn't because he's a lousy father.

He made good points, but you could get into college with Cs and Ds. You could go to a community college or a 2 year school.

@shawnmichaels25

4 жыл бұрын

People with bad gpas could bring it up thro community colleges 🤙

@rhinestonecowboy9967

4 жыл бұрын

Cs and Ds still get you most university degrees too lmao

@AneesSarwar34

4 жыл бұрын

John Lewis I think what George is saying is that, she won’t excel in college like the other kids, if her grades are any indication in high school, what’s her initiative for college?

@JLewis95

4 жыл бұрын

@@AneesSarwar34 True

@aeroromeo7431

4 жыл бұрын

Sonal Nayak Pretty sure he meant she wouldn’t do well in college if she were to have the same mindset and work ethic she currently had in high school only making C’s and D’s and focusing more on boys and her looks rather than school work. George isn’t stupid, he’s just seeing things as they are. Don’t forget George came from a rough background being dyslexic and not having much support at home with an alcoholic mother and an absent father and struggled to survive at times growing up but still managed to graduate high school and worked his way up to become manager of a company despite having little to no college experience, so George isn’t stupid. Carmen needed some sense knocked into her.

Well Carmen does act like a child a lot and she overreacts to the smallest problem she has. I'm just saying.

@SuperiorPhantom-dx6vh

5 жыл бұрын

wyatt peterson Your not wrong. She probably lasted a few months in college and dropped out because of a boy

@wonreiii

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I can see that

@lilirodriguez8851

4 жыл бұрын

Jeeses99 You’re an idiot. Those women are just immature and idiots but not all women act like that

@HuckleisMyHoney

4 жыл бұрын

@Jeeses99 Lol guys we just found a neckbeard incel lmao

@RheemQ

4 жыл бұрын

@@lilirodriguez8851 the person said almost ever woman not every woman

Carmen is a nightmare of a daughter Jesus Christ

You really can't blame George. After all, Max was more successful in school than she was & he had a learning disability (and he likes to goof around as well 😏)

@MarySmith-lv3mo

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of a Cosby Show Fan who pointed out that Theo had Dyslexia and was younger than Denise and still more successful and mature than her when he was in his College Years.

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

2 жыл бұрын

Max has dyslexia

@redips

2 жыл бұрын

was more successful, now he's an underachiever. lol

@amylee8969

Жыл бұрын

@ Ace Solomon Max actually wasn’t more successful at all. He almost had to repeat 5th grade and the concerned teacher said he wasn’t even trying and turning in blank pages. Max at one point even wanted to drop out to work in the factory but Angie and George said no and made him finish high school. Every school related thing Max ever did was by force.

At least he was honest.

@justinterry7853

5 жыл бұрын

I mean being honest can hurt. Heck, i mean if its honest and its not motivating or helpful to the other person, Its best to not say it at all

@aeroromeo7431

5 жыл бұрын

Saint Bobnetcangar Carmen needed to hear this though because she started taking school more seriously and eventually went to college. So this had to be said.

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

@@aeroromeo7431 what do you think made Carmen think George didn't believe in her?

@aeroromeo7431

3 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonySmith-lg7ew Probably when George said Carmen needed to be realistic when it came to college.

I can never take this show seriously, id just be laughing every two seconds

@_lynxy_1160

2 жыл бұрын

Same! Even with the jokes I’d be laughing harder

Well George did make some points but I’m just glad to say that in the end Carmen overcame all that adversity and went to college

George is not wrong. What will a degree in poetry get you? Probably a job at McDonalds or in Carmen’s case, a job at the factory with George as her boss LMAO

@amylee8969

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Poetry and anything art related sounds like a side hobby. If you’re lucky, you can maybe get a side job with poetry to earn a few bucks. But you can’t make a living off of it, unless you become a singer or get signed to a label.

@JonwithnoH0823

Жыл бұрын

Honestly she should get poetry as a minor, but major in something more serious.

@tobiaslawrence8928

Жыл бұрын

​@@amylee8969well technically you can make money from doing poetry if you're key word LUCKY

@Spidercake54

Жыл бұрын

@@amylee8969shut your boomers ass up explain the thousands of writers and artists that are successful and make in a day what would take your ‘rEaL jOB’ a decade to make get fucked

@lll_Number_One

25 күн бұрын

She could be an author and publish books lol, I’m sure her going to College would’ve gave her that idea. That’s the whole point of College in the first place

If my kid comes home with multiple c’s and d’s in high school I wouldn’t think they’ll make it in college either. Plus poetry don’t get you a good paying job it’s just facts

@aeroromeo7431

4 жыл бұрын

jessica Cloud9 Carmen did runaway and disobeyed her parents multiple times and made poor grades despite not being dyslexic though. If I was George I probably would’ve given up on her at some point but George still stood by her through her darker times and helped her despite all the bad things she’s done. He also managed to support his family by working at the factory and later became manager of the factory despite not going to college. Carman needed some sense knocked into her.

@exodustimes4266

4 жыл бұрын

AeroRomeo At the end George ends up owning the factory

@lulusolomon2720

4 жыл бұрын

I mean the whole point of college is to find a good paying job so yeah pretty much

@caiobotelho5884

3 жыл бұрын

@@aeroromeo7431 kinda messed u that you would give up on the kid but still carmen didnt help her own case. It's like trying to save someone that doesnt want to be saved. But at some point the discipline will stick. Hearing those words definitely made carmen swallow the red pill and buckle up

@aeroromeo7431

3 жыл бұрын

Caio Botelho Yeah maybe I over-exaggerated a bit with “giving up on her”. I probably would’ve just been discouraged over time if my kid acted the way Carmen did, but George needed to get through to Carmen somehow since she was continuously slacking off and misbehaving while having unrealistic goals. So, George saying this finally got her to put things into perspective and take school more seriously, which lead to her getting accepted and going to college.

George right. How could he expect his daughter to go to college when she doesn’t take school seriously and just focuses on a boy.

@summonliiva5673

3 жыл бұрын

"She's never pursued in anything that wasn't 6'4 in tight jeans, that made his butt look....SOoo HOoot!!!"

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

Why is Carmen angry at George?

@schuylervrmr830

Жыл бұрын

@Anthony Smith because he's right but she won't admit it since she's a spoiled brat who won't take responsibility

@estebangutierrez160

Жыл бұрын

I wanna be on Carmen's side, but it was really hard to be on her side when looking back at the series Carmen wanted to get pregnant and married with Jason, ran away from home with Zack and even abandoned him so she can live on her own at 15 years old. George maybe an asshole to his own daughter in this scene, but even if Benny had a point that George never showed potential or ambition in something, you can't really deny that due to Carmen's actions throughout the series George's opinion about her is justified.

@amylee8969

Жыл бұрын

@Giovanni Figueroa She seems like the type of student who’d be better off in a community college or taking 1 year off to figure out what she wants in life, when sign up for college a year later.

Looking back on the series now, Angie was a poor parent. She was too soft, and enabled Carmen’s and Max’s bad behaviors. And George honestly has a point. They were almost put into bankruptcy to send her to a private school to escape the bullying and which she got kicked out anyway. She ran away with a low life guy, and took everything they gave her for granted. George reassessed his expectations for Carmen after she ran away, and I can’t blame him. If she didn’t show any sort of interest to pursue college, he wouldn’t expect her to go to college. Though George has his own faults and he realizes he screwed up with Carmen after she left.

@mayren17

2 жыл бұрын

How can you blame George when he tried to help his daughter all the time and when George wanted the kids to learn a lesson Angie didn't.

@thefighter5182

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah George is right because he works for a living and putting food on the table. But when Carmen disobeys George's rules she runs away from it and doesn't take responsibility for it. Because all Carmen does is being deceitful and disobedient when she doesn't get what she wants. Also I am 100% on George's side.

@bluebay1031

2 жыл бұрын

@@mayren17 they literally just did the opposite of that

@juanetemartinez1946

Жыл бұрын

I feel for George and all dads go through something my 10 year old is starting to act up but always love them to the fullest and show them the way . Spend as much time as possible grow a good relationship. I know easier said than done but as long as we try to raise them right with morals and to respect themselves as a parent its something we need to do

@_elijamal

Жыл бұрын

I don’t disagree about Angie but I feel like George was sheltering his kids and that’s not a good thing to do as a parent. Sheltering can look a lot of different ways. For Max in the beginning he was trying to deny his disability instead of facing it head on which wasn’t good for his development. With Carmen, all his controlling tactics just made her act out more instead of allowing her to grow up and be the woman she wants to be. I think this show is a good example of how parents can try their best to raise children but sometimes your best is not enough.

You have to admit, Carmen is every parent's worst nightmare.

@brucelee5585

2 жыл бұрын

They made her that way. When a kid(s) or teenager(s) rebel that reflects on the parents & realistically society would've blamed George & Angie that way & rightly so. If they were really good parents then Carmen wouldn't be the rebellious teenager, that she is now & Max wouldn't have been drinking when he got to be a teenager.

@amylee8969

Жыл бұрын

@Wyatt Peterson Yeah, but George wasn’t a good parents himself either. Part of it isn’t completely his fault. He was raised by an unfit alcoholic mom who also didn’t believe in him. She often joked around about betting that George wouldn’t finish high school. Being raised by someone with Benny’s traits creates a cycle that’s hard to break.

@charltonmccullough4494

Жыл бұрын

@@brucelee5585 She made herself that way.

@dragonflarefrog1424

2 ай бұрын

@@brucelee5585Nonsense. You can’t always blame the parents, you have to eventually hold the child accountable for their actions especially when they’re about to goto college.

@redips

2 ай бұрын

would she consider foster care? lol

I think what George meant was motivation and discipline. College is not for everyone. It is for those who are willing to do the work; show up to the classes; and being able to push themselves, because nobody is going to do that for you. The only way one can make it through college is prayer(done that and it helped a lot ); perseverance; discipline; relaxing when you need to; making the right friends; and money, because it’s not cheap. Also, consider that you might not find your dream job after college or at least right away. Not to mention those student loans are so much fun to pay off. Smh

@maymay5600

4 жыл бұрын

true, true, if you can't what's asked or anything else, then they'll kick you out if they see you not performing

@memphisgrizzlies3398

3 жыл бұрын

Prayer? Tf that have to do with it

@Alyn08

3 жыл бұрын

TRUTH! Especially about those student loan bills after college! Boy, oh boy!

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

Expensive is right yo

Yeah...truth is, with Carmen's track record, any reasonable person would think she couldn't make it in college. He gave it to her a bit harshly, but truthfully.

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

Жыл бұрын

What different way could George have phrased his words?

Well at least geogre is honest,maybe carmen should push herself instead of being a moody emotional brat

@SunlightGwyn

5 жыл бұрын

This is a very ironic episode considering the actress for Carmen graduated high school at 15, was a junior in college at 18, and is a very successful author and poet in real life.

@aeroromeo7431

5 жыл бұрын

RavenOfDusk The actress and the character aren’t supposed to be the same type of person though.

@EpicFableBean

4 жыл бұрын

@@SunlightGwyn holy shit really

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

@@SunlightGwyn Do you know what Carmen meant when she said she was going thru stuff?

@Napash.Masharath

3 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonySmith-lg7ew she was a promiscuous teenager

i understsand george most likely had to tone down his expectations when carmen ran away with a low life dude and was partying at age 15 with a rapper and his crew and because of this was kicked out of school. He was an ass for how he said it. He should have said, "if you want to go to college you need to be more motivated carmen ill never bring up your past since its the past but colleges won't look kindly on somethings in your past. So you need to up the grades from C's to A's and B's. Start studying and reading more, it will help with your poetry as well to know more words."

@aeroromeo7431

6 жыл бұрын

dannyhuskerjay The thing was he wasn’t looking at just the past though, he was looking at the now. She only really focused on guys and never really focused on school and made poor grades despite not having a learning disability like Max. She even ran away with her douchebag boyfriend like you mentioned earlier. Funny thing is she needed this from George because after this she started taking school more seriously and ended up going to college. She needed a little sense knocked into her.

@wyattpeterson6286

5 жыл бұрын

AeroRomeo too true

@wyattpeterson6286

5 жыл бұрын

AeroRomeo Carmen did need some sense knocked into her.

@myeeeeeh

4 жыл бұрын

Yahya Zaza And she actually gets accepted into college.

@aeroromeo7431

4 жыл бұрын

AngelFromTheNightmare Thanks to George finally getting through to her and getting her to take school more seriously.

Yeah I am 100% on George's side. Because George is the best parent in this family with his strict rules. Because Carmen should learn from George for being a proper and respectful person here.

@amylee8969

Жыл бұрын

@ Anonymous He’s actually NOT the best parent. He was good in some ways (being honest, blunt, and strict), he was also better than Benny. but he had plenty of flaws. For instance, favoring Max over Carman is beyond messed up and wrong.

@thefighter5182

8 ай бұрын

@amylee8969 Well George isn't flawed when (being honest, blunt, and strict), also you're right that he is better than Benny. But it's not about favoring one of them kids over the other one. Because Max doesn't know any better but Carmen is a girl that only cares about her hair and her makeup and boys. But her report card has C's and that won't get her into College. Because I'm just being realistic and honest and blunt and that's all. Because I'm always 100% on George's side here and that's all I'm saying.

Everyone is born with potential, it's just that too many people act like they don't.

@amylee8969

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Carman was capable of doing well, and even being a good person and making smart choices. But her emotions and lack of self-esteem got in the way. This show also took place during a time when mental health wasn’t taken as seriously as it is now.

He brought up good points, but just like he realized with his mother later in the episode, (and was reinforced multiple times in the show) was that he never really pushed her or motivated her or even his son to do better. A lot of it was damage control on his part.

@Sai4651

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree with that to some extent, but pushing your kids to do something only works with kids, not teens. Carmen is almost legally an adult, she holds a lot of responsibility for her own failures in life.

@juliantapia1407

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sai4651 Very true, only she can motivate herself at this point. But guess what? Being told that your own father doesn't believe in you and that even though you've found something that actually has you interested in college for once he's not taking it or you seriously? That's more likely to hurt you. It was probably one of the dumbest things he's said and done.

@Sai4651

4 жыл бұрын

@@juliantapia1407 Guess what? It's one of the best things he's said. Poetry? That's a hobby, not a career. Carmen is a millennial stereotype; she's spoiled, lazy, and wants to go to college for a useless major. The kid needs a dose of tough love and reality, otherwise she'll never make it. Not in college or in life.

@juliantapia1407

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sai4651 Nope. A kid you've shoddily raised who's several times come to fully believe you don't care or care less about her compared to literally anything else (shown in a flashback that he's been doing since she was a little girl), finally shows interest in college. College, where plenty of kids often find who they are and even change majors, do better than in high school, and might be well enough to get scholarships for her poetry? No. That's not how you motivate a child. At all.

@Sai4651

4 жыл бұрын

@@juliantapia1407 Shoddily raised? You're basing that off one flashback where he was busy with work and couldn't play a board game. If anything Angie is a worse of the two, she constantly spoils the kids, as shown in a previous episode and pulls back on any punishment. And this is the first time Carmen realized her father thought she had no potential. You're right that College is a place of improvement, but it's also a place where you can fall into a deep pit of debt and partying, especially since Carmen has a tendency to lose focus and do stupid things, like get kicked out of two different schools and run away from home for a boy who just wanted to sleep with her. As for a scholarship, what can she do with Poetry, it's a worthless degree? In life you have to find a job where you can make money, not pick a passion major that's gonna put you in debt.

Angie’s hair was captured perfectly in these scenes , n I liked her long sleeve purple shirt here!!

There was traffic on the stairs😂😂

He hit with that hard truth...

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

It was hard for Carmen to hear too

LOL, BINGO, NAMEO. C-C-C-COLLEGE, D = DAMN I WAS ALMOST A C. SO FUNNY. 😂😂😂😂

George's original premise about poetry was completely correct... it's not a real career.

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

I was reading on the internet and it said a lot of people so poetry because they choose too not because it earns them a lot of money

@leilanimartinez8903

2 жыл бұрын

Emily Dickinson and Rupi Kaur would disagree

@metalfansavarani

2 жыл бұрын

It is a real career because you can get paid

@dragonflarefrog1424

11 ай бұрын

Every argument he made was fine.

Well George spoke the truth

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

I guess the truth hurts huh? because his daughter ran out the door

I mean yes, he had good points, but at the same time, he shouldn’t give up on her. I was in Carmen’s shoes, so I understand completely. I transferred many high schools after being bullied and forced out after being molested by a guy. It really took a toll on my mental health. Eventually, went to college to major in Art Visual Studies. Yes, I was a laughing stock because of my major, but in the end, didn’t care what others thought of me. However, I had a job too and made a lot of sacrifices to be able to invest into my creativity and such, and now, I am a paid blogger and working towards getting my name out there. In the end, poetry is a career, just gotta work your way up and invest even if it means having a crap job on the side to be able to survive.

@darklord7069

2 жыл бұрын

Why would you let a guy touch you, just cut his nuts off

@amylee8969

Жыл бұрын

@Dr. C True, had had good points but the wording was awful. Best thing to do was have a serious talk with Carman about the expenses of college and the importance of taking it seriously and not wasting time.

Seems to be a lot of people with low self esteem in the comment section. He makes a statement from her past and current attitude, that lead to her being motivated.

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

Why do you comment that they have low self-esteem?

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

Yes he did that

Traffic on the Stairs! Lol

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

How could there have been traffic on the stairs?

@ricekrispyy

3 жыл бұрын

Anthony Smith it’s a joke I’m guessing she says there was traffic to make an excuse of being late so she says she’s late to homeschool because there was traffic on the stairs

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

@@ricekrispyy okay

The reason why Carmen is the way she is due to George & Angie's parenting & later on Max's. Yes, they provided their kids with food, water shelter etc, but that doesn't make them make them good parents. I'm reading how George was right, but ironically Carmen made it to college anyway & yes, I know in life they were having their fights, but still. If they were good parents then Carmen wouldn't have been consistently rebellious & Max wouldn't have been drinking later on when he was underage & gotten high. George has an attitude, so of course Carmen was going to have 1 & Angie was privileged, so she got that from her. I'm not defending Carmen, but my point is how did they expect her to act? George was neglectful towards Carmen when she was a kid & he may've been tough on her, but was lenient towards Max & yes, Carmen did worse stuff. However, he was too soft on Max. Angie was the one who was tough on him. She was the one who punished Max after he made his friends think that it was his birthday although it was originally Benny's idea. Angie made Max give all the toys back that was given to him as well as his. When Max pulled a prank on the teacher George gave him a high 5.

Realizing your parents don't believe in you is one of the most demoralizing and depressing things as a kid. It doesn't matter if you don't believe in them you don't ever say that lol

@charltonmccullough4494

10 ай бұрын

Well it was the only way to get Carmen to take school serious and it worked.

Carmen went from a sweet sensitive girl to a very arrogent, senseless young woman. Even the girl who played her changed. Her attitude was probably the reason she was killed off in the 6th season of the show.

@virajpatel1387

4 жыл бұрын

Carmen wasn't recasted, she was written off. I think you are thinking of the new character that filled the void which was Veronica the spoiled niece.

@eltonyescas5425

4 жыл бұрын

@@virajpatel1387 What I meant to write was that her attitude was the most likely reason why she was killed off in season 6. I worded that incorrectly.

@nikkiimagination

3 жыл бұрын

Carmen wasn’t killed off. She just went away to college

@lightningsamurai4134

3 жыл бұрын

She did what the directors told her to.

@eltonyescas5425

3 жыл бұрын

@@nikkiimagination She was still removed fron the show nonetheless.

George was right

@maymay5600

4 жыл бұрын

true, true in today's standards now, you need a good paying job to support yourself or you're fucked! with the coronavirus now going around and people losing their jobs, online class with piles and piles of work, man

I was in a similar position like this. I laughed when my older brother wanted to go to college but he skipped school and his grades were horrible. He didn’t put any effort into anything but games and girls. 0:55 - 1:09 Lol. Brilliant. Love it. I’m sorry but not sorry. I don’t blame him one bit. She never put thought or any hard work into anything. She was only into clothes, makeup, hair and boys. And after what happened with Zack, all of it, I wouldn’t put any further money into her education since she got kicked out of the private school that they paid a lot of money for due to what happened at her past school. Don’t get me wrong, you can make some money in poetry, writing but as sad as it is, it’s not a long career like a baseball career is. Jason was getting lined up for baseball, scouts coming to see him, all of it. It is basically set up, he just needs to be ready and focused. Plus going to college for poetry is something she can learn on her own. I do fanfic stories to help practice my writing which will lead to my books I want to publish in the future. Plus I couldn’t afford college. Had to learn on my own. But I have a job that is full time because my writing will not help me pay my bills all the time. Not sure if Carmen would have stick through the years of college with how quickly she changes her mind on things she liked and any new boy that liked her. Horrible to say but it seems to be the truth. Thanks for uploading.

Poetry can be a career. Writing can lead to being a music writer, a teacher, etc. If she's passionate about and the parents have a stern drive to push her. She can go far with it. Little things like that can turn a whole future around

@amylee8969

Жыл бұрын

Music career is the only way poetry is guaranteed to lead to success and a reasonable income. But even music guaranteed. Music careers can decline and flop at any given moment, once you go broke, you’re forced to find another job to do for a living.

George gave great points.

College isn’t for everybody! this makes me remember agreeing with Benny when she made the joke about pizzas not delivering themselves in the episode about max going to college 😂

“Damn I was almost a C” 💀

george wasnt wrong though... ive been rewatching this series and carmen was always sort of... well... lazy and entitled. max had a learning disability and he showed more effort. carmen just sort of expected to get whatever she wanted when she wanted it. she focused more on boys than anything else... and it ended up making her character even more annoying

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

If Goerge is right why are Angie and Carmen angry at Goerge?

@aeroromeo7431

3 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonySmith-lg7ew Cause they can’t stand being wrong and can’t handle criticism.

@darklord7069

2 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonySmith-lg7ew self righteous ego can’t admit being wrong and their unicorn rainbow approach to conflict never works

@moneylover318

Жыл бұрын

@@aeroromeo7431 Honestly I would be more upset with the fact that he broke his own punishment rules. He gave Zach a free pass but the sudden not to let Carmen do hurting it doesn't matter who has more potential you can't go back on a punishment like that for one kid.

@aeroromeo7431

Жыл бұрын

@@moneylover318 You can if it’s Carmen. She did so many things wrong and caused the most problems in the family. It’s a miracle she even graduated without a butt whooping from her parents. Most would’ve disowned her or gave up on her. Potential aside, she needed some sense knocked into her and needed to be humbled after all that she did.

In college, C stands of “credit” and D stands for “diploma.” That’s what my folks told me when I didn’t do well on a test and thought would get a C. Made it through with only 2 Cs.

Crazy to look back and realize the kid with dyslexia had more passion to do school and try and make something of himself for his future. Although pretty sure its cause he emulates his dad meanwhile Carmen only ever saw the stay at home Angie, the woman who just takes care of the family rather than any of her career aspirations.

@amylee8969

Жыл бұрын

That’s actually not true. I clearly recall that Max was on the verge of failing and repeating 5th grade. He ended up passing but barely! In middle school, he was getting Ds and vented about how much he hated school leading to George choosing to go back to school to set a good example (which failed). In high school, he insisted on working in the factory and drop out of school until he found out the factory was doing budget cuts and laying people off or whatever.

You should always believe in your children, but obviously be realistic, just keep telling them to try harder

I never understood why Angie was mad at George or why the perception of this episode was that George was being a bad parent. Carmen got kicked out of her very expensive private school and ran away with that loser Zach.

@moneylover318

Жыл бұрын

Maybe because of the fact that in the 1st scene before this scene happened all he did was ask her to make a sandwich and disrespecveteran interests and bend the punishment rules for Zach

She had no motivation even when they encouraged her and slammed on her. My grandpa always said I’m to dumb and lazy to go to college and I just graduated with a bachelors this year. Just to make him eat his words.

George is speaking the truth, and to be fair carmen needed a wake-up call. what George is saying should encourage her to do better and actually be passionate about something.

How could you what, Bruh he was right 🤣😭

George absolutely loves Carmen, which is exactly why he’s immensely disappointed in her. She has all the potential in the world and squandered it on being an entitled brat. Angie grew up wealthy and well off and wanted for nothing which makes her naive when dealing with people even her children. True George can be a bit harsh but he means well. Angie doesn’t instill boundaries or discipline which enables her daughters behavior.

George had a point. BUT he failed to railed it in a way that took care of his daughter's emotions. It was almost as if he was talking with Jason....Great Show !

1:02 *”C-C-C-C-College!”*

Call her again that dont scare me😂😂😂

@rafaelalvarez6000

4 жыл бұрын

Gary Rangel he’s fucking hilarious 😂

If I had ran away from home when I was carmens age my mother would have killed me

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

4 жыл бұрын

😮

@joscar062

2 жыл бұрын

Ran away multiple times, worst I got was a beating and a few insults 😝

George has a point but i also wanna know if he didn't think she would make it in college, why did he get angry when she was engaged to Jason??

@exodustimes4266

3 жыл бұрын

She was only 16 and lied about being pregnant. Eventually George realized that Jason was a good guy and okay with it

@lexyruse603

2 жыл бұрын

@@exodustimes4266 I don't think he realized Jason was a great guy. I think he just didn't want her to get pregnant just so she could get married.

@dragonflarefrog1424

2 жыл бұрын

Teen marriage is a bad idea

@estebangutierrez160

Жыл бұрын

Jason didn't realize that Carmen was being serious about marriage.

George made points but could’ve gone about it better.

@aeroromeo7431

4 жыл бұрын

Nah Carmen needed this push from George. She was a really bad kid who didn’t take school seriously. Max was a better student despite being dyslexic since he actually tried.

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

How could George have gone about it better?

@moneylover318

Жыл бұрын

@@AnthonySmith-lg7ew How about for one thing don't let Zack Do whatever he wants while Carmen Stoss to go through her punishment regardless of his future.

Even though he had points does not mean he should have said them to her face like that, especially since she was trying to do better and go to her poetry slam. How can you teach your kid to believe in themselves if you don’t? She’s a teenager, she has a lot of growing up to do.

@aeroromeo7431

4 жыл бұрын

That’s an understatement. Carmen did so many bad things and costed her family so much money and trouble and never took school seriously considering she went through 4 different types of schools. She never listened and always disrespected her parents because she only thought about herself and other boys. Even if it was harsh, she needed a little sense knocked into her and after this, she managed to get into college.

@littlenightma8058

4 жыл бұрын

AeroRomeo Correct, however at that point and time she was in fact doing better and working hard at her poetry but he didn’t even consider that when he made those comments. He shouldn’t have said that to her even if he believed it.

@aeroromeo7431

4 жыл бұрын

LittleNightma She shouldn’t have done those bad things in the first place if she didn’t want to hear this from George. Yeah she was doing “a bit better” and started thinking about college because of poetry but she still needed a wake up call before she actually started taking school more seriously because at that point she was still slacking. Literally the episode right before this one, she and Jason got arrested when they threw a party at Jason’s house and lied to George and Angie about it. If George didn’t make these comments, he never would’ve gotten through to Carmen. Some kids need the extra push even if it seems rough at first.

@littlenightma8058

4 жыл бұрын

AeroRomeo That’s your opinion ^^

@aeroromeo7431

4 жыл бұрын

LittleNightma It’s true though. Some kids need that extra push kind of like Carmen needed this one from George even if it came off as a little harsh at first. Thanks to George, Carmen started taking school more seriously and later got accepted to college and that’s a fact.

This is what a reasonable parent would say, idk how George is in the wrong but it is Carmen after all

@estebangutierrez160

Жыл бұрын

He's in the wrong of how he should've talk to Carmen about her issue, but isn't wrong about Carmen herself about her goal.

@liam6170

Жыл бұрын

He definitely could have phrased better

To be honest, George is not wrong. Carmen has not always made the best decisions.

He's so right about the power nap

*0:58**-**1:05* C-C-C-C-COLLEGE 😆🤣

@charltonmccullough4494

10 ай бұрын

And the D stood for damn I was almost a C 😂🤣

@nloubriel2336

9 ай бұрын

PFFFTHAHAHA 😅 @@charltonmccullough4494

You better not major in art in college unless your very great, or you can come up with a great story for your work

If more parents were like this: kids wouldn't be 40k in debt working at a Call Center...Truth is: going to college doesn't guarantee success. But most successful kids are guaranteed to go to college. You gotta have the drive early on. If you aren't pulling As and Bs in Freshmen History while having no other responsibilities. Good luck even getting a C in Business Calculus 444 while juggling a job and 4 other classes and being away from home...C grade students can still make serious money: Retail Manager, medical assistant, dental assistant, nurse, require Community College only and pull 40k-60k easily and no debt.

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

You think more parents should be like George?

Dan Connor: They're failures Roseanne, the reason you won't admit that because you have to admit you failed as a mother. I would say that to George, he failed as a father which makes his kids failures.

@aeroromeo7431

6 жыл бұрын

Alex Ortiz Carmen actually ended up going to college because what George said motivated her to do better and focus more in school, so George wasn’t a failure because his kids actually started succeeding. (We don’t really know about Max but we can assume he got the education he needed)

@soniamoreno8164

5 жыл бұрын

I think he's trying

@garytaylor3880

5 жыл бұрын

Nah his mother failed. George did pretty damn good with the hand he was dealt

@cocoafemme47

5 жыл бұрын

@@garytaylor3880: Only as far as financially supporting his children were concerned. As far as emotional support went? He FAILED....100%!! He didn't even realize that Max had kidney disease, when he was wetting the bed!! George STUPIDLY told Max to "suck it up!!"

@Mateoski97

5 жыл бұрын

@@cocoafemme47 Which is really frustrating. People nowadays think that only financial support is what makes someone a good parent when the parents are legally required to do financially support their kids. As far as Carmen's behavior, it's a major reflection on her parents. If you spend your children's lives being a piece of shit and belittling them to the point to where they start making wreckless decisions because they're so fed up with their parents and/or struggle with low self-esteem, what good are you? No one said raising a child was easy, it's certainly not, but it's still an irreversible responsibility that many parents run away from (running away doesn't necessarily mean not financially supporting your children) when it gets too hard for them. This also holds true for George since Benny was the exact same way towards him and Angie's parents spoiled her.

Being grounded and fighting with her parents became too normal to Carmen. George needed to say something to slap reality into her and incentivize Carmen to take herself more seriously.

The reason why George pulled out all the points cause its facts, George wants her daughter to be disciplined but Angie is a bad parent. George wanted to punish Carmen and Angie doesn't the only time I agree with Angie when she puts her in Catholic school, but still she didn't disciplined her more. George did everything for her and even put her in a private school and when every time he wanted Carmen to be disciplined Angie didn't and just let her walk. The thing Angie is the definition of a bad parent, she didn't let her kids work for the stuff (All though Carmen had a job), Angie did so many things behind George's back, and that's why the kids walk over them and expect everything at hand. In the reality Angie isn't a good parent at all, she always wants to be right and be on everybody's good side and that was wrong.

They always make it a sex thing.

He was being realistic, she made it known in that conversation that she wanted to major in poetry. The probability of you making a career out of that is slim to none. College is an expensive investment. You don't waste money going to college when the probability of you succeeding in life is against your favor in whatever field you are getting into. Carmen obviously lacks motivation while Jason is obviously pushing himself to be a success. Carmen's inability to see this first hand is just another reinforcement in George's mind that Carmen thinks life is a disney fairy tale and success is just going to come to her not matter what she does. Life isn't fair and it isn't a fairy tale. You need to take calculated risks based on probabilities to be successful. The exception to the rule does not make the rule. Feelings can't change Facts, BUT Facts can change Feelings.

That was funny and messed up at the same time

C-C-C-C-College 😂😂

@joscar062

2 жыл бұрын

D for damn I was almost getting a C

C’s get degrees. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

I can't lie,they do

@joscar062

2 жыл бұрын

They don’t get you successful jobs

Yep, lot of weirdos in here going over the top complaining about a t.v. character.

Well she is a teenage girl plus once you figure out what you want in life you show more passion

@curtailedbike4123

3 жыл бұрын

But poetry, that is just a death sentence

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

@@curtailedbike4123 For real? She wouldn't benefit from poetry at all?

Everything he said is true. Hundreds of students graduate every year from every hs in the country. Every HS has and honor roll, a valedictorian, and most of several smart and talented kids. To succeed you need to do better than your best, Carmen did not do that.

George is right though. Studying poetry in College is ridiculous. It won't make her any money, and will just waste their's as they struggle to help her pay for it. She's passionate about it, but even if she does go to college, the more likely scenario would be that Jason would end up supporting her with his far higher paying career, so it's more worthwhile to support his passion.

@irvinmorales1409

5 жыл бұрын

Pretty much. It's like getting a degree in Women's Studies or Africana Studies. It's worthless in the real world.

@CHRISTIANNWO

5 жыл бұрын

As long as she goes to a cheap college, poetry is OK. College brings out people's potential; it's not just about a landing a comfy job.

@justinterry7853

5 жыл бұрын

So having a job in writing and publishing books is dumb?

@imzjustplayin

4 жыл бұрын

@@CHRISTIANNWO If you go to college and only study poetry, no matter how cheap the school is, you're going to end up with people asking themselves, "Why can't I get a job?".

@CHRISTIANNWO

4 жыл бұрын

@@imzjustplayin, well there's no official job for a poet, besides lecturing poetry in a class. Whatever one learns studying poetry, they can integrate that into their career or passion, whether that be journalism, writing lyrics, marketing, or simply creating art. The point is that there's more to education than simply landing a comfy job. You don't need to be very educated to get a job.

Why go to college for poetry? Just start putting pen to paper.

Hadn’t George ever heard of community college?

@joewhitehead3

4 жыл бұрын

Mr. California Oh yeah. I forgot

@yvonnedavis9650

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I was terrible in high school. I tried to get into BSU first year but I couldn’t because my SATs weren’t that good . I’m now in community college with 3.0 gpa and transfer in a couple of semesters. They are other options 🤷🏽‍♀️

@josueluna7532

4 жыл бұрын

That doesn’t change the point that Carmen is lazy and irresponsible. She’s never showed determination and George was right.

@joewhitehead3

4 жыл бұрын

Josue Luna He coulda gave her a chance to do better

@josueluna7532

4 жыл бұрын

Joe Whitehead she was given multiple choices before and she was ruining her life and being selfish. She was never serious

George was continuing the cycle of neglect 🤷‍♀️ Forget Jason, I'd be more concerned with getting my own kid into shape, not someone else's.

If you defeat a tired George really what have you won!

Yet she gets in

I have so much potentials😬😂I am a Carmen and I have a b’s and A’s

What season and episode is this?

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

Season 4,

George did have a point, but he didn't encourage her, which he probably should have. He was doing to her what Benny did to him, luckily, he caught it before it was too late.

BINGO! NAMO! XD XD XD

I miss Jason a lot

She gonna have to prove him right for fucking up

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

Did George bring up a good point?

I show potential 🥺studying to be a cop

While I see where George was coming from I think he could have addressed his points a little differently. My dad always told me it's not about what he thinks, it's about what you can prove to yourself. Carmen is no more typical than the average teenager who cares about boys and her hair. But there comes a point in every teenager falls out of it and starts to see where the real priorities need to be. All George has to do is hold onto her through that phase, but this seems like he's given up on her.

Nobody ever got a scholarship for poetry

I wonder what F stood for.

Truth hurts doesn't it

@AnthonySmith-lg7ew

3 жыл бұрын

It can

its true tho🤷🏽‍♀️she ran away, she made bad grades, she barely cares about school she only cares about her looks, what ppl think of her & boys. she gave them hell

Like with most of the stuff George says and does, I get his thought process, but the way he says it is pretty much atrocious.

@darklord7069

2 жыл бұрын

Well when Carmen runs away allowing zack to take her virginity (she didn’t do it, but she thought of it in her diary), gets kicked out of private school, expects everything to be given to her because Angie is a soft parent, and constantly brings her brother down, you can’t expect George to be nice. People need to accept the harsh reality of their garbage actions

George essentially gave up on Carmen and dismissed her interests.

@dragonflarefrog1424

11 ай бұрын

As he should. Poetry? You can’t even be a teacher with that one.

@thefanwithoutaface8105

2 ай бұрын

Dude, Poetry isn't an interest or a career. No one makes a living as a poet these days or even back when this show came out. When's the last time you even heard about someone talk about poetry that wasn't from several centuries ago?