George Friedman: Fear & Loathing in Ukraine

Stratfor founder and chairman George Friedman discusses how mutual fears between the United States and Russia has exacerbated the conflict in Ukraine.
This Carnegie Council event took place on January 30, 2015. For complete audio and transcript and video clips, go to: www.carnegiecouncil.org/studio...

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  • @wolfgangwust5883
    @wolfgangwust58832 жыл бұрын

    Seven years later...here we are.

  • @tyrantonion6660

    @tyrantonion6660

    2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed...

  • @seregadno

    @seregadno

    Жыл бұрын

    Did something change? US plays europe like a toy, starting brotherly war (I consider provocations of their puppets as start).

  • @Bert2368

    @Bert2368

    Жыл бұрын

    8 years later, here we continue to be. Abd from the rather minimal views YouRube documents of this, one may extrapolate the fear USAs "deep state" holds of wide public visibility and any honest nation wide discussion of these matters.

  • @MarcinMoka1
    @MarcinMoka1 Жыл бұрын

    This actually did age very well (watching in 2023)

  • @GuinessOriginal

    @GuinessOriginal

    11 ай бұрын

    How do exactly? Genuinely interested to hear your thoughts

  • @user-jn7ks9nk1l

    @user-jn7ks9nk1l

    4 ай бұрын

    Я пишу из 13 февраля 2024 года.Время все расставляет по своим местам.Посоле интервью Путина Карлсону и агонии англосаксов Вам ещё нужны доказательства.?.​@@GuinessOriginal

  • @Windband1
    @Windband12 жыл бұрын

    Ultimately this guy is still speaking from a US imperial establishment perspective, and he's leaving out a number pieces.

  • @TokyoTaisu

    @TokyoTaisu

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah well he's still more neutral than others.

  • @goldmann9473
    @goldmann9473 Жыл бұрын

    So ITS about interest , not about democracy ..

  • @Bert2368

    @Bert2368

    Жыл бұрын

    !BINGO

  • @TokyoTaisu

    @TokyoTaisu

    Жыл бұрын

    There's no such thing as democracy

  • @juz3r1
    @juz3r1 Жыл бұрын

    We understand everything now...

  • @marcelbas
    @marcelbas2 жыл бұрын

    "What is he doing? He is telling all our plans!"

  • @Windband1

    @Windband1

    2 жыл бұрын

    LOL. Right?

  • @juditboth1015

    @juditboth1015

    Жыл бұрын

    Fasza! Már régen erre készül USA!

  • @Windband1
    @Windband12 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry, but I take major exception with his framing US interests as "fear based"!! The interest of the US has ALWAYS been global economic hegemony. And so, from that point of view, the US orchestration of this entire situation has been OFFENSIVE, and not "fear based".

  • @wittelsbacher27cameron16

    @wittelsbacher27cameron16

    Жыл бұрын

    War criminals are Americansa and now you are exposed

  • @JamesBrown-ux9ds

    @JamesBrown-ux9ds

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes but - being hegemon or supreme or in the end alone in charge is always fear based. The non-fear-based by contrast are able to stay at home and always enjoy a culture of open doors - everybody is welcome, we are not afraid. By the way there used to be an American singing about 'we are not afraid'?

  • @Egal0190

    @Egal0190

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JamesBrown-ux9ds It doesn't make sense to me. When a stranger kicks in your door, kills one of your house mates, takes your money and some resources and leaves or maybe stays to take more... how do you call that "fear based"? Do you mean in a sense that they spread fear instead of being feared, maybe? I understand the "fear based" term as being a hypocritical claim of the US violating the whole planet as some kind of defensive measure. It's not - it's offensive and ruthless.

  • @fr4ctl

    @fr4ctl

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@Egal0190Because anger stems from fear. Fear of not having control. So it terrifies you so much, that you become angry/HOSTILE... Funnily enough, mass fear and indoctrination = mass control. Oh the irony...

  • @ackiid

    @ackiid

    6 ай бұрын

    come on, freedman works for US, he just can't go around telling the truth :D

  • @michaelmullins3396
    @michaelmullins33966 жыл бұрын

    What did Nuland say about the Eu.? Was the contents of her phone conversation not planning a Coup d"edat, can you imagine anyone in the Kremlin doing a similar thing.

  • @OmmerSyssel

    @OmmerSyssel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lots of unusual things are imaginable in criminal Putins Kremlin: Politkovskaya, Lesin, Nemtsov, Litvinenko, Estemirova, Markelov, Baburova, Berezovsky, Klebnikov and Yushenkov... Putin critics who all experienced an unusually violent death. Poisoned by very very difficult accessible substances or simply shot on open street, by gunmen never found, or convicted!

  • @Windband1

    @Windband1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @Ampel_off

    @Ampel_off

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Russians maybe also orchestrated some regime changes. However they are not pretending to be the good ones who are bringing democracy and peace to the world. A "benign" hegemon.

  • @karelsigi770
    @karelsigi770 Жыл бұрын

    The US should take care of itself and not unleash evil and war all over the world.

  • @drainmonkeys385
    @drainmonkeys3852 жыл бұрын

    I agree with the Russians actually

  • @OmmerSyssel

    @OmmerSyssel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Majority of Ukrainian doesn't. After all it's (still...) their country. Keep your Putin propaganda where the sun never shines..

  • @SnowmanTF2

    @SnowmanTF2

    2 жыл бұрын

    While I can understand why they would want to do that, how they expect to manage seems a borderline fantasy. Taken to the point they would control all the lands that control the gaps in defensible terrain around them (roughly either the USSR or Russian Empire), they would have to get around twice their population under some level of subjugation, between Finlandization to Belarus level control. At the rate they were taking nibbles like Transnistria, South Ossetia, Abkhazia it probably would take over a century to get it all back. Ukraine makes it look like they would have trouble taking Baltic country size chunks, and to keep the territory even that size likely will need some level of troupes in the area for many years. For wins they have getting states closer to them like Belarus and Kazakhstan with relatively low cost, they are having most of the other European ones get more distant and better prepared, plus that was before NATO and EU started showing recent alignment on the issue.

  • @GuinessOriginal

    @GuinessOriginal

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SnowmanTF2 if you listen to all of his and other peoples analysis , a neutral Ukraine means they wouldn’t need to

  • @Windband1

    @Windband1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SnowmanTF2 Putin has said from day 1 he has no interest in annexing Ukraine.

  • @froimv
    @froimv2 жыл бұрын

    Well, here you go.

  • @johnkim5125
    @johnkim51252 жыл бұрын

    It's so demotivating to talk to others when I think like this. Passions and social media are going viral... and it's killing me welp lol

  • @salomongoldstein
    @salomongoldstein8 жыл бұрын

    Well, clear words by someone who obviously knows the exact situation without building up an illusion like the mass media does.

  • @JUST-fj7yl
    @JUST-fj7yl8 жыл бұрын

    Bravo, accurate geopolitical assement of the situation without the media dribble.

  • @user-jn7ks9nk1l

    @user-jn7ks9nk1l

    4 ай бұрын

    Это планы сатаны

  • @jbweld6193
    @jbweld61932 жыл бұрын

    This is very relevant and prescient.

  • @fidelio5390

    @fidelio5390

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, of course - it is easy to be "prescient" if you know that your / your country's strategy is to STIFLE unrest or even civil war in the countries between Germany and Russia to prevent their working together and prosper! Zbigniew Brzezinski told us in detail why this was "necessary" for the US to stay economically the Number One. They are not our friends, nor anybody's. They are cynicle money-addicted brutes. I hope their evil schemes turn out bad against themselves, and chances are they will.

  • @Windband1

    @Windband1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully you've also listened to the Mearsheimer lectures... They're spot on.

  • @GuinessOriginal

    @GuinessOriginal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Windband1 also watch Vladimir Poznor, Jeffrey Sachs, Bill Bradley, Stephen Cohen, Christopher Clarke and real life lore has an excellent video on it

  • @GuinessOriginal

    @GuinessOriginal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Windband1 also chas freeman and jack matlock

  • @GuinessOriginal

    @GuinessOriginal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Windband1 and Douglas magregor

  • @gregwang8628
    @gregwang8628 Жыл бұрын

    We are a hegemon ourselves, are we?

  • @dr_flunks
    @dr_flunks Жыл бұрын

    well this aged well.

  • @uweschneider4367
    @uweschneider43672 жыл бұрын

    America first, and that includes torpedoing Europe's peace with Russia for good. Many are already claiming this, and he is proving it.

  • @GuinessOriginal

    @GuinessOriginal

    Жыл бұрын

    This will be seen in the future as the start of the usa's decline

  • @rafomic4210

    @rafomic4210

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah he clearly says it.

  • @gabyschilz4484

    @gabyschilz4484

    Жыл бұрын

    Putin torpedoed peace in Europe! His state built on the FSB is an awful anachronistic autocratic entity. An illiberal democracy. Ukraine is free to chose and they did when they were attacked. They do not want to live like the palestinians in Israel. (Colonized and terrorized)

  • @c.l.369
    @c.l.3694 ай бұрын

    very educational

  • @n1cktar
    @n1cktar2 жыл бұрын

    everybody decides where this line should be. Even here in comments. There is only one thing - you underestimate ukrainians and their choice on where they wanna be.

  • @Ampel_off

    @Ampel_off

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately it's not the majority of the Ukrainian people who decide in a highly corrupt country. Look where the Ukraine is ranked in a global corruption Index.

  • @GuinessOriginal

    @GuinessOriginal

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure they didn't want to be dead in a wrecked country but unfortunately that is precisely where they are

  • @tyravanleer7521
    @tyravanleer75212 жыл бұрын

    💡

  • @dirtyd2162
    @dirtyd21622 жыл бұрын

    Hmm

  • @JamesBrown-ux9ds
    @JamesBrown-ux9ds Жыл бұрын

    Still perfect and most to the point.

  • @GuinessOriginal
    @GuinessOriginal2 жыл бұрын

    Is this guy related to Milton?

  • @TokyoTaisu

    @TokyoTaisu

    Жыл бұрын

    No.

  • @GuinessOriginal

    @GuinessOriginal

    11 ай бұрын

    @@TokyoTaisuphew. Thanks for letting me know

  • @filizfidan3168
    @filizfidan31682 жыл бұрын

    Russia has a different line: Kaliningrad to Ismaïl... Poland and Hungary, possibly Romania/Moldova will agree once they receive part of western and South Ukraine, their lost territories from Molotov- Ribbentrop pact.

  • @Wubby805
    @Wubby8052 жыл бұрын

    On February 24, 2022, Russia mistook a tiger for a cat. Riding a tiger is fun, the lethality is trying to get off.

  • @GuinessOriginal

    @GuinessOriginal

    Жыл бұрын

    Seems like Ukraine is the one riding the tiger, it's their country getting wrecked

  • @Arc1opterix

    @Arc1opterix

    Жыл бұрын

    Or US mistook a bear for a baever?)

  • @sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517

    @sixmillionsilencedaccounts3517

    Жыл бұрын

    Imagine thinking Russia is fighing just Ukraine...

  • @hikarukun5126

    @hikarukun5126

    Жыл бұрын

    Foreign troops fighting against Russia in Ukraine, of course Ukrainian soldiers are fighting too + weapons provided to Ukraine from all EU countries and USA, money support, etc Russia is fighting against all of them. That was a USA plan. Nevertheless if Dems win elections in 2024 that will be a USA hegemony dawn 😊

  • @user-jn7ks9nk1l

    @user-jn7ks9nk1l

    4 ай бұрын

    А сейчас Вы тоже так думаете?Хорошо смеётся тот,кто смеётся последним

  • @galaxyrider9599
    @galaxyrider95992 жыл бұрын

    Russia already has plenty of access to the Black sea, duh...

  • @Krik..

    @Krik..

    Жыл бұрын

    посмотри на карту. и не забудь, кто управляет проливом Босфор

  • @CalculusProfessor
    @CalculusProfessor Жыл бұрын

    This man is always wrong, don't waste your time.

  • @paolobaldini2027

    @paolobaldini2027

    Жыл бұрын

    you are the geopolitical Genius instead right? Good to know. Where can i find your Analysis?

  • @Bert2368

    @Bert2368

    Жыл бұрын

    Your master wishes.

  • @birdbirdbird1565

    @birdbirdbird1565

    8 ай бұрын

    Actually this guy is warmongering enough to make what he wants to happen in the future, in order to profits for himself, otherwise he could lose his geopolitical bet.

  • @OmmerSyssel
    @OmmerSyssel2 жыл бұрын

    First of all, Crimea wasn't Russian territory, it was and still is Ukrainian territory. Stealing others property never makes you the rightful owner. Completely wrong judging Putin as primarily interested in Ukraine as a defence zone. It's still called the European Bread Basket, for very obvious reasons. As well as Putin several times publicly declared he wants to reestablish lost Soviet Borders. Meaning occupying Ukraine is only one step further into his megalomaniac dream. That's why it's of immense importance to support Ukraine in their heroic fight, against Putins illegal invasion.

  • @GuinessOriginal

    @GuinessOriginal

    2 жыл бұрын

    You need to learn your history. Crimea has always been Russian, is 95% Russian and was part of Russia until Krushev, a Ukrainian, gifted it to Ukraine. None of this really matters, what is important is that a neutral Ukraine would have prevented war, but Ukraine was being natoised and the represented an existential threat to Russian security, just like if Mexico was Russiafied. Putin warned about this for over a decade, and not only was he ignored, he was deliberately provoked into this war. Why? Because wars are very good for profits. Look at oil and gas prices, look at arms companies share prices. Afghanistan has has ended and they needed another war. This is it

  • @galaxyrider9599

    @galaxyrider9599

    2 жыл бұрын

    1) Ukrainian dictator Khruschev took Crimea from the Russian Soviet Republic and added it to the Ukrainian Soviet Rebublic. 2) Russia is the world's NUMBER ONE exporter of wheat. Why would they need Ukranian's bread? 3) The link to the video, please!

  • @Windband1

    @Windband1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tell that to Israel...

  • @Windband1

    @Windband1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GuinessOriginal Yes!

  • @bls5160

    @bls5160

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GuinessOriginal Exactly!