Foreman is RIGHT

@thepublishingpoet8435

Жыл бұрын

He's not right. Ali was already messed up

@Ontiming2023

6 ай бұрын

@@thepublishingpoet8435 Ali was way to passionate about the sport to where he literally wanted to die on that ring I mean that’s a lil to far I understand he loves the sport and his fans but Ali could of saved his self numerous times

@TheBoxingGuy886

2 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure Muhummad Ali got Parkinson's from Ernie shavers (I'm just guessing) because I'm pretty sure he got brain damage from shavers​@@Ontiming2023

He last fight should have been the thriller in Manila

@thegetchmeister

Жыл бұрын

FACTS💯 Ali was never the same after that fight. The amount of greatness Ali had left was gone after that fight

@Duplotopf

Жыл бұрын

Agree

@mofo1739

Жыл бұрын

Totally , Ali himself admitted he felt different after third Frazier fight.

@vonjovi4849

Жыл бұрын

@@mofo1739how many more fights did ali do after 3rd frazier fight

@mofo1739

Жыл бұрын

@@vonjovi4849 Ali had ten more fights.

Right on Mr Foreman. A person who has no quit in him, doesn't COMPREHEND a situation where and when that happens. Full marks and a medal for Angelo. We'll never know, he may have actually added a few years onto his life. Parkinsons is a terrible disease in its later stages. 😢❤😊

Man was never knocked out in his career even by the hardest hitting punchers of all times. His heart keeps him standing but his brain was accumulating the inevitable damage thats showed later.

@Ontiming2023

6 ай бұрын

Ali was way to passionate about the sport to where he literally wanted to die on that ring I mean that’s a lil to far I understand he loves the sport and his fans but Ali could of saved his self numerous times

@x_flies

6 ай бұрын

@@Ontiming2023 That’s exactly spot on. He was literally ready to die. Like Mike Tyson said when talking about “He would die for this shit, me? Im not gonna die for this shit…” Tyson said something like that, Im paraphrasing.

Dr. Ferdie Pacheco, Ali's trainer, was once asked when he saw a physical/mental decline in Muhammad Ali. Hi answer: "After the first Frazier fight (in 1971) I noticed him slurring his speech." He was only 29 years old then.

@sleazyfellow

8 ай бұрын

Alis bad habit of letting sparring partners beat on him didn't help either.

@cliffbot638

15 күн бұрын

​@sleazyfellow I heard about that. Maybe those fights wouldn't have been so bad for him if that was all the damage he took. Him willingly taking blows during sparing definitely didn't help

He also sparred hard all the time. Read his biography, Ali believed sparring should be exactly like the fight. I believe the gym wars is what contributed the most in his Parkinson disease.

@PassRush49

Жыл бұрын

Apparently Muhammad Ali thought his brain, just like his body, would get tougher by taking shots to the head, and not cause him any damage.

@youtoo2233

10 ай бұрын

No Ali said many times in videos that he hates training and hate sparring and just does a lot of goofing around if you watch it

George is a great man 👍🏻

@sidneymays

10 ай бұрын

Yes he sure is. One of my favs.

Love me some george foreman. His boxing brain is second to none. I would have loved to see him as a trainer.

Ali was already suffering from parkinson's when he fought Holmes. The script had already been written

@irenegaruba6468

Жыл бұрын

More damage was done to his brain by Holmes. When someone already have Parkinson’s, he shouldn’t get any more punches in the head! I believe it started after his fight with Foreman, he took a lot of punches in the back of his head where the Medulla Oblongata is. That controls the speech area among other things. It did not manifest itself right away. He should have stopped fighting after he regained that title. The third fight with Frazier, and later with Spinks, Ernie Shavers,(the hardest hitter of them all) and finally Holmes. All these made matters worse and he continued to fight. I love Ali with all my heart but the man was too stubborn! He had his sparring partners beat up on him because he thought it would harden him up. It only destroyed his health. But the man himself could not be destroyed. That gorgeous fighter would always be the Greatest of all Time ❤

@irenegaruba48

8 ай бұрын

The Trevor Berbick fight was a whole different story!

@sleazyfellow

8 ай бұрын

Ali had been deteriorating before his team's very eyes for years. They ALL KNEW. What kept him there? His NOI buddy Herbert Muhammad, who rode that cash cow to the slaughter shed. Angelo knew, ferdie knew and left at the 11th hour, and despite Foreman here stating Angelo called a fight off, stayed till after midnight.

@Ontiming2023

6 ай бұрын

@@sleazyfellow Ali was way to passionate about the sport to where he literally wanted to die on that ring I mean that’s a lil to far I understand he loves the sport and his fans but Ali could of saved his self numerous times

Well I care about him🥺❣️

@exdus235

10 ай бұрын

Me too

After Ali's brutal fight with the heavy hitter Ernie Shavers a hospital visit found his speech had slowed by 16%

He was already suffering....ideally his last fight should have been after Foreman.....but he was top of the World, and its hard to quit at the top

Such a profoundly true statement. Learn to leave with dignity when you've proven your mettle.

Good on you George, well said.

Should have never fought shavers. Severe damage

This great man love Great Ali

Larry Holmes caught a lot of flak even though Larry tried to get them to stop that fight much sooner than they did😢

Thank you, George because you’re right. IMHO I think Muhammad Ali should’ve retired right after defeating Joe Frazier in Manila because that had to be one of the most dangerous fights of all time. Insanely hot and humid temperatures while fighting for 14 rounds

But Ali did have one more fight going the distance and losing on points to Trevor Berbick in the Bahamas. It turned out that in the Holmes fight Ali was on Thyroid Meds that Affected Him badly. Holmes definately eased up on Ali when Ali had Nothing left. And I believe Berbick did too at the latter part of the fight with Ali. I wish Ali had Stayed retired after His Historic Third World Title in the Leon Spinks Rematch. That would have been a Great Ending to His Career.

The brother is so right Big fellow.

Amen BIG George u r so correct and as far as I'm concerned... Larry should not have fought Ali who was already sick and not in any condition to fight for real but I take my hat off to Ali with the big heart and never got knocked out as Larry tried to do .....

@EthanNev

Жыл бұрын

Larry did not try to he was pulling punches and trying to get the ref to stop the fight he cried after the fight Larry isn't a monster

@thegodfather1924

Жыл бұрын

​@@EthanNev and after that Tyson revenged Ali.

@kevinmunday6263

11 ай бұрын

​@@EthanNevAbsolutely Holmes did Nothing Wrong, it was the Medical People that passed Ali fit to fight who are to Blame.

@kevinmunday6263

11 ай бұрын

​@@thegodfather1924Tysons revenge is bullshit there was nothing to avenge with Holmes or Berbick, neither did AnyThing wrong only the Medics who let Ali fight

God forever bless you George foreman. It's TRUE what you said. You was and still is my idol.😊

My mum has Parkinson’s’ the side affects of the meds cause uncontrollable movements n more these meds are rotten.. Michael Watson has brain damage n he doesn’t have Parkinson’s…..a lot ov pharmacy meds are rotten…r.I.p Ali

Muhammad Ali should have said goodbye to boxing after flooring GF in Zaire Had it hapen so !!!

Who knew in the early 1970s the boxing trinity of Foreman , Frazier and Ali would all prove themselves to be very fine human beings. Respect Rest well Ali and Joe.

Dundee should have thrown the towel, he only knew why he didn’t. so. The whole fight was a foolishness …

Someone tell this to tony ferguson

Ali should have retired after thrilla in manila RIP MUHAMMAD ALI

Wow ... I loved that

Foremans one of the real lucky ones

It's not Larry Holmes fault, his illness started before he fought Larry Holmes, probably started when he fought Earnie Shavers and Chuck Wepner. his doctors had warned him to retire early, but he was adamant to continue boxing. and that made the disease worse. imagine if he obeyed his doctor's words, maybe Muhammad Ali's name would get bigger and influence more and more people.

@PassRush49

Жыл бұрын

I agree 100%. Ali was slurring his speech long before the Holmes fight.

RIGHT!

Amen

Larry was pulling his punches against Ali & asked the referee to stop the fight, but was told to shut up. If you watch the fight it’s clear that Ali had nothing left & was only fighting on reputation.

We all need an Angelo Dundee in our lives

He’s absolutely right but Ali just had a different mind set boxing was all he knew and what he loved.

Ali fought some hard hitters. When he came back he fought Frazier, Norton, Shavers, and the other guys he fought when he was already too old. Plus it was 15 rounds back then.

@LordZedd123

Сағат бұрын

With 8 ounce horse hair gloves

His last fight should be when he Beats Leon spinks

I know this is a serious topic and I agree with what foreman is saying but . My guy has like 4 microphones things on his collar

@lzumm

Жыл бұрын

Wtf are you talking about

@sohappytogether353

11 ай бұрын

Ikr ... Why so many microphones? lol

He Was Not Suffering From Parkinson's Yet! Two Years After That Fight! Foreman is Right!!❤

I could be wrong Dundee cornered Ali in everyone but one pro fight I think he also done the berbik fight his last one but thats the one I could be wrong he mite not of done it cos it was after the Holmes fight were he had to pull him out and didnt want to see that again not shure

Ali vs Shavers was the point ..

👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

should've retired after the Shavers fight

That was not Larry Holmes fault. Ali had Parkinson you blame Ali for wanting to keep fighting. Ali Was his own Boss YOU CAN'T MAKE SOMEONE DO WHAT YOU WANT. IT WAS HIS CHOICE.

@callum9500

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@angriff69

Жыл бұрын

It's about health and profession, as a coach in charge of a champion you HAVE TO protect him, history proved that stop was necessary for Ali

@savemyself100

Жыл бұрын

Either way Ali , Had his mind made up . On what he was doing , you with him or not.

Ali and Frazier suffered

Ali was poorly long before that fight

George Foreman of African and Asian descent. An amazing fighter and human being. 3rd hardest hitter of all time after Liston and Shavers being top.

@Gus375

3 ай бұрын

Asian?

@marleywills2160

3 ай бұрын

@@Gus375 defo has a very unique look...defo looks Asian too. He's obviously got strong genetics. If he did ancestry he'd have white, Asian, ingenious, African.

@Gus375

3 ай бұрын

@@marleywills2160 in the USA black Americans have some maybe some indigenous, and def some European mixture. Asian tho? Na. Not Foreman..

@Alexandria.Washington

25 күн бұрын

@@marleywills2160Not Asian at ALL! George Forman is an Aboriginal Indigenous American. He is NOT from Africa or Asia!!

@Alexandria.Washington

25 күн бұрын

@@Gus375George Forman may NOT have ANY European mixture or very little. He is definitely 💯 Aboriginal Indigenous American, just like Ruth Simmons who is almost 98% Aboriginal Indigenous American Indian or “Cherokee Princess”.

Sadly ali has already Parkinson's..

Ngl fighting all these guys made muhaamad greatest should he have fought holmes and berbick no but its what made him great he fought everyone.

Ali should of been done after rumble. All thrilla did was make him lose more grey matter and then the rest of them just compiled on top of it. The biggest contributers to the condition he had were #1 his sparring especially after the comeback, he'd purposely let himself be banged around #2 frazier in the first and third fights, and #3 the earnie shavers fight, Ali didnt need to take that risk late in his career. By the time Spinks and Holmes and then Trevor got to him it was way past his prime and winning days. Its funny, holmes and spinks denigrate each others victories over Ali, well, when spinks was alive he did that, but the only one who admitted they had a shell shocked fighter was Shavers. Who despite losing said just being in the ring helped his career along.

anyone getting hit in the head is going to sustain damage....

Ali was way to passionate about the sport to where he literally wanted to die on that ring I mean that’s a lil to far I understand he loves the sport and his fans but Ali could of saved his self numerous times

This is so quite . I can't make anything out. You'd have to be deaf to hear that

@ballofbread273

Жыл бұрын

lmao you'd have to be deaf to hear that

@exdus235

10 ай бұрын

Three dots at upper right of video give caption option. Maybe try captions if sound is too low?

First of all Ali was already suffering from Parkinson's a few years before this fight. Second thing Angelo Dundee didn't care about Ali, he wasn't the one that stopped the fight. Herbert Muhammad told him to stop the fight, that was the only reason he stopped the fight. He was in it for the money like the rest of em. If Angelo really cared he would've stopped training Ali years earlier. He was "so concerned " about Ali's health that he trained Ali for his next fight against Trevor berbick. He was a leach like the rest of em. Overrated coach

George is the only fighter in the Golden 70s era of heavyweight didn't have signs of brain damage