I mean, even his speaking voice has true bass timbre. Definitely agree with you. Not all basses are the profundo/ocktavist type.

@debev6445

11 ай бұрын

Oktavist (no c). 🤪

@felicitymcdonald24

6 ай бұрын

According to Wikipedia though, Geoff *is* an Oktavist

@debev6445

6 ай бұрын

@@felicitymcdonald24 I disagree. Oktavists are a role in a choir, and are unamplified and don't use techniques like vocal fry or technical enhancements/assistance. It isn't really a transferable term just because a bass singer like Geoff has a good low range.

Geoff's voice makes my body vibrate. He is a bass

@bperez8656

6 ай бұрын

Maybe it’s his looks

@maloxi1472

4 ай бұрын

Ooga Booga !!!

@krikionis8330

Ай бұрын

By your logic, vibrator is also bass.

Geoff Castelluci: "Of you were to bump into me on the street, and we were to have a conversation, it would not dawn on you that..." [I'm a bass] Mr. Castellucci, sir. I'm sitting here, listening to you have a casual conversation right now. And I can tell you: there are resonances in your voice that are tickling the low range hairs in my cochlea. I can feel them vibrating in my head. And I'm not even listening through headphones, at the moment. Also: real vanilla is complex, rare, and painstaking to cultivate and ferment into its mature flavor. You, sir, are the real thing.

@bradycall1889

11 ай бұрын

Yes exactly. I do find it rather odd and strange to me that some bass singing information channels have misidentified him as a lower baritone. It’s like, I don’t understand why and just because a singer calls themselves a certain voice type it doesn’t mean they are that voice type. Geoff honestly, despite being a musical genius for the most part, definitely doesn’t have enough experience to assign anyone, even himself, a voice type.

@ailsa7555

3 ай бұрын

Beautifully said

Peter, I absolutely love you for gently but firmly calling him out in this. And it’s not like you’re undereducated on the topic!

You can just tell by listening to him speak he is a bass. Geoff is too modest

@MultiKamil97

11 ай бұрын

His voice wasn't as bassy when he was younger. His age (he's over 40 now) and singing definitely helped him to achieve a bassier tone.

@bradycall1889

11 ай бұрын

Oh yes, I agree. Not only can you hear it when he sings, but also when he speaks, too. Some of us may sound darker to ourselves than we do to other people, while others may perceive themselves as sounding brighter than others hear them. I always had thought that I have a super bright, nasal timbre, but then I listened to recordings of myself and I was a lot darker and more masculine-sounding than I thought. I was quite confident that I was a lyric baritone. Now I'm not sure what I am. I can kind of relate to Geoff Castellucci a little bit in that I used to also perceive my own voice as brighter and lighter than it actually was.

@Stan_S_Stanman

11 ай бұрын

@@MultiKamil97 You can't fabricate a low voice. Like all true basses, Geoff has it by nature. The fact that we could sing a low B at 17 or 18 is a pretty good tell that he's always been a bass.

@Stan_S_Stanman

11 ай бұрын

But also his timbre and resonance. You can't fabricate that. That's all genetics

@johndeeregreen4592

11 ай бұрын

@@Stan_S_Stanman, you are 100% correct. You can go into falsetto to get higher, but in chest voice, there is NO way to fake a truly deep voice. Something like only 10% of all men on earth can hit C2 at any volume and weight... B1 is probably even rarer.

Geoff has more of a commanding voice than he realizes. None of us hears ourselves the way others do - and it's evident he (for some strange reason) doesn't feel he fits in with others whom he considers true basses. Well, as a bass singer myself, I look to Geoff and you as two of the truest basses I've ever enjoyed listening to - and whose techniques I try to mimic. He should wear the badge of that rumbling voice of his with pride.

@ryancorsaut5177

10 ай бұрын

It’s probably because he has a bright/nasally voice. Which some people assume if you’re not dark/robust/timbered you’re not a bass.

@bperez8656

6 ай бұрын

He sounds like a bass the the person who doesn’t know any better

Great interview, Peter! We love Geoff, but he's either too modest or slightly delusional... Or both. I guarantee plenty of people feel the rumble he referred to when he speaks and especially when he sings! Nothing vanilla about him! ✌️❤️🎸

With the range that he has, he's both a bass AND a baritone in one. And he could sing lead for just about any group he wanted to as well. Between his well-developed falsetto and his natural upper range, he can also cover most any tenor part, but I doubt he has the endurance to sing up there very long at a time. He would definitely be a great asset to one of those "bass singer quartets" they used to do as a comedy sketch at NQC!

Well done Peter, tell him! 🤝 This was a great interview and you can't hide your happiness. Good to see this!

@anymous1485

11 ай бұрын

I guarantee Geoff telling Layne about Peter's compliment will only cause him to abuse Geoff further, like "oh, okay!" :)

@DeeeDogxx

11 ай бұрын

@@anymous1485 hahaha, good for our ears 😄

@PeterBarber

11 ай бұрын

@@anymous1485 C1s in pure chest voice only

@BangYongguk-sf8ly

10 ай бұрын

I think only Eric Holloway can hit a C1 in pure chest tbh

@anymous1485

10 ай бұрын

@@BangYongguk-sf8ly unless you're 13 of course

I've sang in the first and second octave most of my life, the man is a BASS .....hands down. And just an excellent singer period!

He is just such a nice guy! Have never thought he was anything else but a true bass.

His voice is smooth like butter, so yes... butter pecan bass flavor!

Geoff is so humble! Peter, you are a great interviewer.

Geoff is so self-effacing. I take his point but really, he is very special though he'll never accept that. And he has the most beautiful smile. And thank you for your comments Peter, maybe he'll listen to you, if not his fans.

Geoff is so humble! But no matter which flavour of bass he is it's one of my favorite bass-flavours out there ❤

You can't help but love Geoff.

Geoff is a true bass... with a really broad vocal range. I hear those low notes even when speaking, and I also hear baritone and even some tenor sounds occasionally. He has an expressive voice... so you can hear all of that.

@bradycall1889

7 ай бұрын

Agreed

Vanilla is actually a very complex flavor... still hard to reproduce

Yes, Geoff, you are definitely butter pecan bass, your first instinct was correct. Smooth, buttery and sweet, with some earthy/burnt low notes, and occasionally a bit of crunch (vocal fry). Perfect description. 💜

This was such an amazing interview! I love your explanation of why he truly is a Bass. He's such a humble man is definitely not vanilla. If I didn't know who he was and bumped into him as well you on the street I would absolutely believe that y'all were of the Bass variety. Again I thoroughly enjoyed the interview!

So Peter Barber is right about Geoff's voice. There are different types of bass voices and Castellucci is obviously one of those bass voice types. Afterall, Barber is an opera singer and a lot of operatic training has to do with learning the different types of voices. I'm sure Peter has listened to lots of bass voices within the world of opera and that he knows what he's talking about.

@alexkarlsson660

12 күн бұрын

Certainly knows more than Geoff. Geoff may be a good singer but when it comes to voice types he doesn't know what he's talking about.

@bradycall1889

12 күн бұрын

@@alexkarlsson660 Correct

Castellucci has an incredible voice. Honestly he's great. He could fully pass for an Oktavist Bass, a Basso Profondo, a Basso Cantante, a Bass-baritone and a Baritone with a dark low voice. He's incredible.

@edraith

11 ай бұрын

When he says he's a baritone he is probably right but he is also comparing himself to REAL oktavist basses which are in a completely different category altogether than Basses are. It's like a low tenor comparing himself to a contraltino and saying "oh... I don't have an easy CounterHigh G5 in full voice... I'M NOT A TENOR THEN!" Or like a Tenore leggero rossiniano comparing the power of his own high G4 to the same note from a Heldentenor and mistakenly thinking "oh boy, my voice completely sucks!" No, just different voices.

@hypercubemaster2729

8 ай бұрын

​@@edraithNo, Basso Profundos are still Basses, just as Basso Cantantes are. Geoff is not a Baritone, nor is he a Basso Profundo. He has the depth, but not the power.

@bradycall1889

12 күн бұрын

@@hypercubemaster2729 Agreed.

Wow, what a great guy! Geoff is top tier!

I enjoyed the whole interview. Could have listened to you two chat for a long time.

I think he's just comparing himself to the lowest and most resonant of basses, honestly. You don't have to be INSANELY resonant to be a true bass. A lot of the true basses I've researched are not nearly as powerful as Geoff described. If you want to hear a TRUE "lower baritone," listen to the Welsh opera singer Bryn Terfel. I am (probably) a mid-ranged baritone, just a little bit higher-pitched than the lower baritone voice, and Geoff is WAYYYY lower pitched than I am. Thou Yang (aka Bass2Yang), a basso cantante, has very similar vocal characteristics to Geoff Castellucci.

Here's where Geoff's argument falls apart: You know what we calls everyone else who "has access to" those notes? We calls 'em "basses". :)

Which voice are you? Geoff: "Yes."

He just has a crazy range…

I feel like the standard 'bass' category has sort of disappeared, and people tend to classify themselves as either baritone or profundo/oktavist, with nothing in-between. Geoff definitely isn't a natural profundo, but his regular bass notes (low 2nd octave, high 1st octave) are quite resonant and natural, I'd definitely call him a bass.

Geoff! Your speaking voice is absolutely a dead giveaway heat you are a bass. Someone else said it, we never hear our voice the way others hear us. Your speaking voice rattles my phone.

@PeterBarber

11 ай бұрын

Yep!!

@bradycall1889

11 ай бұрын

Yeah some of us sound darker (timbre-wise) to our own selves than others due to bone conduction. Other people, such as Geoff and I, sound brighter to ourselves than to others. I always thought that I had a very bright timbre, almost like a tenor's. When I heard my own voice through a recording of myself while my voice reflected off of the phone during a call or off the computer during a zoom call (not sure what happened probably a glitch), I heard a much darker, much more manly voice.

Brilliant interview

Love this!!

Thanks Peter. Many thanks Geoff.

You tell him Peter! Clearly those directors that nitpicked him gave him imposter syndrome. Geoff, you don't have to be 1-in-a-billion to be a real bass. 1-in-a-million still counts!

@BangYongguk-sf8ly

10 ай бұрын

I'm a 1 in a 1 lol. A bartione with only F2 :(

He can consider himself as a low baritone or something, but we've got different types of basses and every voice is unique. I consider him as a low bass. A baritone wouldn't hit a G1 with all that power, although Geoff thinks he doesn't have the proper weight of a bass. I can hit a Bb1, and it still doesn't have that weight that I want to. I think when I be 30 years old, it will have the weight. ❤

@MultiKamil97

11 ай бұрын

His G1 is barely audible live though. He usually makes those super low notes early in the morning or just boosts them up on a computer. There are some acapella versions of his songs and you can definitely hear the drop in volume in some low notes compared to their studio versions. For example Josh Turner is also known for having quite strong first octave notes but still he's considered a lyric bass-baritone.

@pr1nc3y25

11 ай бұрын

In a vacuum, Geoff is absolutely a bass. The power he has in his notes is so strong. His low chest notes are even stronger than my subs, which uses my strongest part of my chest range with all the resonance I can give them. It's mainly because he has met other low basses that are also inhuman, that he views himself as not a bass. His explanation of having access to the notes but not having the bassiness is valid, but kinda feels like he is being a bit modest. This problem kinda exists too much where people will hear low basses and then not consider themselves basses even if they can hit a B1 with a ton of resonance. A bass should be measured with both range and power, with which Geoff has both. Also the Bb1 with absolutely have the weight when you get older. About 18 months ago, a D2 would be kinda breathy for me but now it's extremely strong. It just takes time and practice for the notes to become good. Just take care of your voice and it will become stronger.

@Daniel_Muniz

11 ай бұрын

@@pr1nc3y25 I 100% agree with you, bro. I didn't even have a B1. Now, I have a Bb1. My C2 is stronger. So, I totally understand.

@Daniel_Muniz

11 ай бұрын

@@MultiKamil97 I don't listen to Josh Turner that much. But thanks for the explanation

@bradycall1889

11 ай бұрын

@@Daniel_Muniz I agree with you that he is obviously a bass. I don't understand why he doesn't consider himself one lol.

my brother influenced me a lot into listening lower note songs. he is comipiling geof songs. i like his singing misty mountain over monster mash most. he sang it with passion.

How was I NOT subbed --- Swore I was......... OK, well -- I am now or again! * Oh, and what Geoff has "become" is an exceptional bass with a ridiculous range! And, in that range -- he has the ability to "sound" completely different, not knowing it's the same voice. Be Safe

voices are as distinct as fingerprints.

Geoff is humble and I absolutely love that. ❤ But please, he should really accept the compliments as he deserves them all.

It's like saying "because Dimash exists, therefore I am not a tenor." Geoff is a bass. 🤷‍♂ A very good one at that.

I would definitely know by his speaking voice that he could be a bass but I wouldn't have guessed he could get as low as he does. I went to school with a guy who left for summer vaca sounding like a squirrel and returned in the Fall with a voice I described as sounding like it was dragged from the deepest pits of hell. He was also 6 feet tall in 8th grade. The combination got him the nickname of Lurch. His normal speaking tone was, at it's highest, like Glenn Miller's when his speaking tone drops to it's lowest if that makes sense. It just always had that quality where you felt as much as heard it. By Geoff's description of Carl Hudson I'd wonder if we knew the same guy and he just changed his name but if Carl is Geoff's age he's about 15 years too young. Interesting to hear his take on his own abilities.

Geoff is Angel. 😊

He is definitely a bass. You don't even have to reach the first octave to call you bass. Not every bass is a profundo.

0:52 oh, muffin! lol

2:15 you know you have grown when you are having to count for it😅 He's being humble though. I have a low voice too but i would call myself a high baritone or even a tenor if i were to speak near him 😜

What is the proper way to determine whether he is a baritone or a bass? If it's the center of his vocal range, then he is probably a baritone, because of his crazy high range. Peter, what IS the proper way to categorize?

@pr1nc3y25

11 ай бұрын

I'm not sure on this, but I guess it's where your voice naturally lies and where it's easiest for you to sing. It would be the centre of the vocal range since then a lot of basses would be considered baritones, since they have amazing high ranges (such as Tim Foust and Eric Holloway). For Geoff, if it's easiest for him to sing in a baritone range with the access to bass notes, then it makes sense to consider himself a baritone, but that doesn't feel right because of what we know Geoff to be able to do, with himself admitting he can sing an A1 most days, which baritones can't necessarily do.

@bradycall1889

11 ай бұрын

@@pr1nc3y25 Yes I agree.

@bradycall1889

11 ай бұрын

The first most important thing in voice classification is where your voice naturally sits. The second most important thing to classify your voice is the location of your passaggio, or where your voice starts losing its chest voice on the high notes and you start needing to mix. What I just described is your primo passaggio. The secondo passaggio is when you need to start using full head voice.

@pr1nc3y25

11 ай бұрын

@@bradycall1889 I just did a quick check and it seems like an E4 is the highest he can sing sustained in chest with good resonance (in High and Dry). All his other chest notes that are higher are brief or sound a bit mixey or even a bit forced (for example, in Friends Like Me, where his F#4 was held, but sounds forced). This does land in the upper range of a bass but is also close to the high end of a baritone range. From what I've seen, he doesn't mix a lot and goes into a falsetto and even head voice in the 5th octave or even earlier I think. His upper range is amazing (especially the E4 I mentioned) and it does seem like he is very comfortable there and with a brighter tone than other basses, which I guess is why he considers himself a baritone. I would consider myself a bass since I can sing down to a B1 in chest, but then up to a C4 with good resonance, up to a G4 if it's brief. This is definitely something I want to work on, but it seems like It comes very easy to Geoff, so I kinda do guess why he does consider himself a baritone if he is comparing himself to other basses.

@bradycall1889

11 ай бұрын

​@@pr1nc3y25 And not everyone fits 100% perfectly into any category 🤷‍♂

Hes a bass in complete denial. Thank you as a fellow bass calling him out on it cause I CRINGE everyt ime I hear him try to say hes a baritone :)

@bradycall1889

11 ай бұрын

So do I man. So do I. Anybody who says he is a baritone doesn't know what the heck they're talking about.

His speaking voice is saying that he’s a dramatic-baritone or lyric-bass.

Geoff's voice has same timber as Tuukka Haapaniemi. A bit higher tho. But a bass never the less.

Why hasn't Geoff ever gotten a chance to sing with the Bass Gang ?

There was this one random vocal coach on the internet who called Geoff a spinto tenor. I’m not so sure as to why.

@ChangDaBang

5 ай бұрын

link to that "vocal coach" please

@bradycall1889

5 ай бұрын

@@ChangDaBang I'll try to send you the link but it may not work because a lot of the times KZread blocks links.

@bradycall1889

5 ай бұрын

@@ChangDaBang kzread.info/dash/bejne/i32gupWfh7rggZs.html

@bradycall1889

5 ай бұрын

@@ChangDaBang Perhaps I can email it to you.

he's a bass a low bass avi is a higher bass but still a bass and Matt Sallee is a bass baritone.

its funny he points to tim as an example of a true bass, considering a lot of people think tims voice isn't as low as geoff's. in actuality tim and geoff have roughly equivalent placement (both seemingly have passaggios at A3/Bb3 and D4/Eb4, have the same lowest average chest note of A1, both have the lowest chest note in general of F#1, both belt with considerable quality up to G4 and can mix into the lower 5th octave, they have the same grey streak in their hair and so on) with geoff having better connection at the bottom and tim having better resonance. geoff's F#1s sound much more confident than tim's but tim can project a B1 decently off mic, while geoff seems to only be able to push to around D2. actually adam chances voice is arguably even more comparable to geoffs. capable of chest notes down to the middle of the 1st octave with good consistency and connection, but doesn't have the strength down there tim does. if u hear em of mic the difference is night and day in the power they each have in their low range

@hugobasilio1303

10 ай бұрын

Actually, both Tim and Geoff have an F1 Chest. Tim Foust, although hit in live. And Geoff hit F1 in Friends on the other side.

@hugobasilio1303

10 ай бұрын

But he also said in a livestream, F1 is his lowest chest note.

@hugobasilio1303

10 ай бұрын

But yeah, I totally agree with you 100% what you said!!!💯💯💯💯💯

If you're talking about the big band leader, he wasn't a singer.

I think his resonance isn't perfect to compare with avi. And his low note sounds different from others. But he can sing from very low to so high notes. I think he is bass-baritone.

@alexkarlsson660

12 күн бұрын

A bass-baritone is an operatic fach that is just a high bass with high enough tessitura to sing some baritone arias. Since he isn't an opera singer (or even a classical one), he isn't a bass-baritone. Either way he's a low bass

Geoff has made the reason known as to why he considers himself a baritone. He said that he is more comfortable in his mid ramge than his low range.

@PeterBarber

11 ай бұрын

I am aware of his reasoning, given that this is literally a video of us discussing whether he is a baritone or not 😂

@christopherprice9520

11 ай бұрын

@@PeterBarber, well yeah it’s obvious that Geoff considering himself a baritone is very modest. Since he has made it clear that he was in his high school choir he should be aware of the fact that according to the definition of the bass voice type that his singing voice matches that definition.

It depends on the standard. From a classical singer's pov, he is a low baritone. Huge W for Geoff for being self-aware. Edit: a true bass has a different colour to his low notes and as Geoff said as well, even when speaking you hear it. Think of it like this: if your voice sounds trumpety, even if you sing and speak low, you're a baritone. A bass has that depth in the sound, almost as if he is in a barrel.

@alexkarlsson660

12 күн бұрын

The reason he doesn't sound like a classical bass is because he isn't a classical singer. He doesn't have the classical technique. But he absolutely has bass timbre. And not every bass is super dark and heavy, just like not every tenor is super bright and light.

@bradycall1889

12 күн бұрын

@@alexkarlsson660 Exactly

@Catalinddm

12 күн бұрын

@@alexkarlsson660 Fair enough. Good point. Cheers. Edit: when I think of natural basses I think Tim Foust or Avi Kaplan (from the same genre of acapella). All that aside, I have huge respect for Geoff. Outstanding musician.

Probably a bass baritone, not a full bass

@ivblizzard3616

2 ай бұрын

im a baritone and im speaking a full octave higher than him

@mattlance5208

2 ай бұрын

@@ivblizzard3616 a full octave higher ? You're a soprano tho ahahahah you don't know what you're talking about 😂

@ivblizzard3616

2 ай бұрын

@@mattlance5208 im speaking at C3-D4

@alexkarlsson660

12 күн бұрын

A bass-baritone IS a "full" bass. Just one with a high enough tessitura to sing some baritone arias.

@mattlance5208

12 күн бұрын

@@alexkarlsson660 no, a bass Baritone has a lighter timbre than a full bass..

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