My left ear loved this video 😁

@TheMindUnlocked

Ай бұрын

Loool i had thought was a glitch at first but yuuup ; it got all the attention for sure 😂

@somebrains5431

Ай бұрын

Must have the Gosports editor working for him.

180r vs Geo 5 vs CS3🎉🎉🎉 I'm fully convinced the 180r is King

@sneezeguard117

24 күн бұрын

I plan on using my 180r for the next 5 years or longer. Absolutely no need to get anything else as it performs just as good as any other marker on the market without dropping nearly 2k for it brand new

@austinogg

24 күн бұрын

@@sneezeguard117 seriously this gun will age like a 98 custom

The GR core is just an updated IV core. Still vents to fire, still has an SFR, etc...looks like they took some design cues from the Dye DSR+. If we are calling the OP core in the CS3 a Gamma, we can call the GR core an IV. Makes sense that it looks a lot like the CS3, they have a lot of part commonalities. Grip frame, ASA, etc... I don't hate it though! Now I wonder what private label versions are going to come out.... Also, I am just calling these a Geo 5....R5 just trips me up.

@aidanafshar8744

Ай бұрын

Moving the sfr adjustment into the grip definitely cleans up the frame, I know some people like being able to adjust it on the fly, though. Granted, it only takes a few seconds to remove the grips.

This is why I love old guns. They had character.

I shot one of these R5s. While im not huge on the hype that goes on with markers, i must say, this thing shot like BUTTER!! It had a signature that reminds me of a dsr+. Super smooth, soft, and quiet. It had me speechless.

I still like the sound of the Geo 4

I just bought a 180R and it’s great! And it’s still similar to the “highest” end PE guns.

@chasenicholson237

Ай бұрын

Yeah dude I’ve shot one since release. I’ve shot lv2s and cs3s. Seeing this video made me even happier that I bought the 180 and not bs like this R5. My gun shoots ropes and is so soft shooting

@BAGofTALENT

Ай бұрын

It's the best gun on the market if you include price , it's has all the features of CS 3 except tooless grips (who cares ) for like $600 less . The only thing mid about the so call " mid " tier guns is price the performance is equal to the high end guns .

@axledog7297

Ай бұрын

@@chasenicholson237 ​ Why is a new IV Core-based Geo "BS?" Hating on options, even if they're over your budget, is so ignorant. The 180R is an amazing marker at its pricepoint, just as the 170R and 160R were before it. And similarly to your argument, you can go and buy a used marker for less than half the price of a new 180R that will perform just as well as it does. That doesn't make the 180R BS. If PE didn't produce "BS", they likely would've gone out of business years ago. This is a tiny industry with a shrinking player base and profits. Companies have to utilize what many view as "boring" or "repetitive" strategies in order to remain afloat and profitable. So, why is the R5 BS?

For some reason when i watch your videos with headphones it only plays out of the left ear bud and all other youtube vids play through both

the Geo Ry internally seems to be a clone of the Macdev Infinity Drive.

5:55 drivetrain is term you looking for for bolt cores.

The only thing you can do is change milling and body style with guns , the evolution of paintball has peaked, you have all the features you could ever need and there isn't really anything to improve on. Im ok with it because guns just work now and have everything, especially planet guns

@vijilant

Ай бұрын

Hot take: there's plenty to improve on, but the market has shrunk so it's not worth the RnD to do anything radical.

@BAGofTALENT

Ай бұрын

@@vijilant I honestly can't think of a single thing that could be done that would make me say " wow that's crazy " .....air efficiency is great no need to really improve unless it gets me a extra 500 shots per fill and as far as features are concerned what else could you need that a gun like the CS3 or Luxe idol doesn't have ? It's basically make a cool body and nice feeling gun at this point

Etha 3. All you need bro. 😎

And I'm over here still perfectly content with my Gmek from, like, 2018.

@axledog7297

Ай бұрын

I guess companies should have just stopped design/manufacturing in 2018 then, right?

@dopemopey

Ай бұрын

@@axledog7297 Yes. That's exactly what I was trying to say. Thank you for simplifying it. 🙄 I was actually trying to give PE some praise. I was an Automag guy from the late 90s until I got my Gmek. They built a marker that's so nice to shoot that I've basically abandoned my other markers, and am still more than happy with it 6 years later.

@axledog7297

Ай бұрын

@@dopemopey no argument there. PE initiated their "modern architecture" a couple years prior in 2016 with the CS1. They've only pushed out excellent products since.

Gr Core was developed in partnership with Toyota and Gazoo Racing. It just wants to go fast give it a break!

The R5 color ways are complete 🗑

@axledog7297

Ай бұрын

Outside of midnight having to exist, I completely agree with this. This is the fairest PE criticism I've seen in all of these comments.

I'm mixed on it. I own a Geo4 and think the 4 looks so much better milling wise. I also don't like the name, just call it the Geo 5 and roll with it. The colors are kinda meh too. Price is far too close to the top dog CS3. I would have liked to have seen this down around 1500 or even 1499 just to say they were lower. I have seen so many reviews of it now but I am still on the fence here. Like meh?

I think after the release of the CS1, Planet has been in an identity crisis with their high-end Spool. Especially since people are still shooting their IV Core 3.5s to this day.

@aidanafshar8744

Ай бұрын

The players on Leverage shoot everything from the Geo 3 with IV core to the CS3 and everything in between.

@axledog7297

Ай бұрын

@damianculley67, the release of the CS1 introduced PE's modern architecture and design strategy, which they haven't strayed from. This is a good thing, not a crisis.

@Damitsall

Ай бұрын

Exactly, as someone who's been in and out of paintball the past 10 years (been playing over 20), I never understood why they even introduced the CS line. Now they have made it even more confusing by continuing the Geo line and CS line with not much difference.

@aidanafshar8744

Ай бұрын

@@Damitsall They do it because they know the paintball community will spend money on it. For example, the CS2 & CS2 Pro...like wtf.

I'm loving the look. And the eye update is much needed puts it on par with those cs guns. No mech frame is a serious bummer. I won't be selling my geo 4 thats for sure.

@axledog7297

Ай бұрын

Mech-ing an IV Core would require a more complex mech valve and would offer no advantage over the existing mechanical options. It makes all the sense in the world not to do this.

Is this same criticism levied at luxe?

Why is it in mono mode sound

@RuinedClips

Ай бұрын

New software I screwed up. Plug your right ear you won’t notice. 😀

Looks like a nice etha

Markers have officially peaked...

I mean how much can you do to em now days

@axledog7297

Ай бұрын

Plenty. You just have to judge a book by more than its cover.

It's like they took mixed the shocker frame with the cs3 grips. I like the look of the R5 better the the cs3. Because it's more slim and stream line.

Are people that picky about everything

The PE CS3 and R5 situation is similar to the Dye M3+ vs. the Dye DLS. PE want to have a reliable flagship (CS3) and additionally this other product with a USP that is just abstract enough to make people curious and get it (R5). Didn’t work for Dye the DLS, but I trust PE not to make the same mistakes as Dye. Also, it’s another 2000€ marker that people can buy as a third backup.. just in case..

@fusefire8200

Ай бұрын

The DLS was a soup cannon they sold out immediately.

@somebrains5431

Ай бұрын

@@fusefire8200They ran away from the DLS. What an utter pos and customer service debacle.

@stephenzuckerman4689

Ай бұрын

The DLS is a limited run with the paragon core - it’s absolutely Not an m3+

@axledog7297

Ай бұрын

@Nein.. I don't really agree, and I worked very closely with the DLS project. I could write a book but to keep it short and sweet, the DLS was a limited edition passion project between John Chambers (Dye's engineer behind the M3 and DSR) and Ryan Kenaley (Lurker) to bring the unique concepts introduced by the Paragon into production. Both of these cats are highly intelligent beasts of engineers (I'm saying that as an engineer, myself) with incredible resumes...the DLS was not designed by some idiot in his mom's basement like so many seem to think. It was a big, painful lesson in design, respecting the design intent throughout the manufacturing process and field beta and validation testing. PE does this better than *anyone* in the industry. Thanks to a number of errors that resulted primarily due to miscommunication between design and manufacturing, the DLS released with a few separate issues that combined to create a major issue - poor paint handling. The DLS also uses multiple concepts that have NEVER been used in paintball. The Geo R5, on the other hand, uses known, proven concepts and parts, is not a limited edition marker, and went through heavy field testing even though it didn't really need to (refer back to using known, proven concepts and parts). In terms of pricing and product placement, it makes perfect sense from a business perspective. Utilize parts commonality (economies of scale), known concepts and provide enough changes/improvements over the previous iteration to give the high end buyer a choice between two excellent products, just different enough (I appreciate the "abstract" portion of your comment) to likely result in him purchasing both. Two things are true: 1) This is an excellent product that will sell very well and 2) The ignorant people in this industry will bitch about its existence, price, and similarities to the CS3.

@Nein..

Ай бұрын

@@axledog7297 I really appreciate the insights! My comment was not about the technical side, but about how the markers are communicated to players.

I’ve got an Etek 5 that still rips. I don’t get why people are paying this much money for the same markers year after year.

@projectvictory8150

Ай бұрын

….but it’s new!

@somebrains5431

Ай бұрын

If you call the IV core something else people might lose their minds and throw their money at it.

@anarchyamp

Ай бұрын

This

@axledog7297

Ай бұрын

Are you really bitching about a company offering choices just because you either choose to continue to use your Etek 5 or can't afford to spend $1600 on a new marker?

I have a geo4 and lv2 and want a mech frame for something rip hah

@mramseyISU

Ай бұрын

Get a dsr+ if you want a space mech.

call me crazy but sticking with my 170r and geo 4..ftw

@josephgrisafe9140

Ай бұрын

Why do you have both? What difference do you get from your 170 over the geo or vice versa?

@axledog7297

Ай бұрын

@@josephgrisafe9140 Speaking for myself, a mech 170R and a Geo 4 make for a great combo. Why not?

Man I really like Planet Eclipse but all of their markers look the same the past 3 years it's the same marker ! Everyone save your money get the Etha 3 it's the same marker for less. That marker is so underrated it's not funny. Get that an a barrel kit and your set.

@anarchyamp

Ай бұрын

This

@axledog7297

Ай бұрын

The result of parts commonality, utilizing a consistent design strategy and platform architecture. It's smart business from every angle but I guess it's boring to some.

That's it. Getting a 180R. I've seen it all

@sneezeguard117

24 күн бұрын

Smart man

Yes it looks almost identical. Let’s just talk about the dangerous power guns for an hour next time

@anarchyamp

Ай бұрын

Dp G5 is slept on

Aside from the long awaited LV2 everything the last 5 years from eclipse is just 🥱 boring and lame it's becoming like taco bell it's all the same just named different. And I say this as huge P.E fan

@axledog7297

Ай бұрын

@diesel7842 do you understand *WHY* that is?

@diesel7842

Ай бұрын

@@axledog7297 because they have reached the limit in innovation and creativity.

I suspect this will plummet in value once people quickly realize the CS is a superior platform.

@axledog7297

Ай бұрын

Why is the "CS" a superior platform?

New markers really dont change much these days and only out preform the mid range markers by a small amount. Some people like expensive toys though