Diddy giving artist back their publishing LONG, LONG, LONG after all the millions of dollars has dried up has got to be by far the most disrespectful thing I've seen a black person do to another black person in ages. Dude was eating off of everybody else's plates for years and now he thinks he's doing "something" throwing them back scraps is straight trash...🤬🤬🤬🤬

@Mone333Williams

8 ай бұрын

Then offered 8)900$... 900$! For their publishings and to sign NDA to not speak bad about puff after yrs of silencing them and stealing their money. That's just beyond words. 900$ after making millions...there's nothing left. He remixed those song so much it's nothing left to refurbish

@lovelivelaugh4542

8 ай бұрын

if diddy was around during slavery time he would of been a black slave master....they had a few...

@ryand4533

7 ай бұрын

He knows exactly what he’s doing don’t give him that out. He knows it’s worthless he also knows most of the artist don’t. He wants as many ex employees to sign NDAs as possible. He knows more lawsuits are coming he’s just trying to protect his own neck.

Puffy the kind of person to leave a sip of Kool Aid in the pitcher and yell out, yo I left you something in the fridge.

@yrnx9334

11 ай бұрын

Type of nigga to leave one chip in the bag 😂

@briannajones6427

10 ай бұрын

😂😂

@lawrenceoscar8191

10 ай бұрын

On God😂😂😂😂

@Dredugz

10 ай бұрын

Better not drink anything Diddy hands you if you didn't see him pour it... he going to be running all up in ya

@zaytime4156

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

Gene is straight to the point!❤Love Him!

A devil referring to himself as love is insane 😂

@MONEYAINTATHANG100

11 ай бұрын

🐉

@gb901head8

11 ай бұрын

Love backwards is evil or evol. It's right in our face

@poster242

11 ай бұрын

Real comment

@donnieloupo

11 ай бұрын

It’s obvious u can’t spell

@freddy8479

11 ай бұрын

😞😞😞😞😞😂😂

Never forget, Biggie's daughter was selling Big Poppa T shirts to survive in college. Missing you my ass😂

@theofreemanjr4415

11 ай бұрын

Wrong biggie daughter net worth is 110 million bc of biggie and biggie son net worth is 50 million do you research first and you will see she’s opening up her own business up for her father legacy that’s what biggie wanted and his son done the same thing

@mr._sharpe

11 ай бұрын

Yea puffy a snake

@airiq29

11 ай бұрын

@@fakethuglifenaw. But I remember yours. Gargle peanut butter like no other 🐐

@user-wq2tl1uv8g

11 ай бұрын

🤣

@johns5263

11 ай бұрын

@@airiq29 💀💀

Facts! I know someone personally who is a executive in the music publishing industry; and according to this executive; the only artist catalogs worth anything is Mary J. Blige and Biggies! Gene Deal always speaking logical and intellectual truth! Gene said: "Bad boy; We" No! "Bad boy; You!

@PositiveBrothaHakeem

8 ай бұрын

...And Mary didn't write or produce any of her music, so multiple people & their descendants will always eat off of her catalog. '...(The only thing Mary achieved is that) She's still being ran by these niggas 25-30 years later!' --Jaguar Wright (paraphrased)

I always thought Puffy was a very shady person. The more I learn about him, the more my initial suspicions are being confirmed

@100timessquare

11 ай бұрын

Your actually not learning anything about Puff. Your only hearing what a lying POS is SAYING about Puff.

@horlinlacombe9658

8 ай бұрын

I'm curious why do you say that? I am so confused about P Diddy.

@rkk578

8 ай бұрын

@@horlinlacombe9658 It is enough if you check out his career beginnings. Not to mention that after he got fired because people died he created a record company out of the blue...

@user-ji5dq7qj3p

8 ай бұрын

@@horlinlacombe9658how are you confused do you not know how to do your own research?

This guy is one of the realist dude’s that I seen on a KZread interview, you can just tell dude ain’t lying about nun he say.

@Jcrow21

10 ай бұрын

He definitely lying about 90 percent

@user-se7hf3vm3v

5 ай бұрын

​@@Jcrow21but yet you were here 😂😂😂😂

Imagine selling your home to someone and then demanding the new owner give back the property you sold to them years ago.🤦

@RedStl

11 ай бұрын

BARS!

@donnieloupo

11 ай бұрын

Imagine firing someone for obviously insubordination 20 yrs ago and they job is getting on blogs talking about you

@LickyTee

10 ай бұрын

lease

The point he’s making and that Mark Curry made (and that a lot of people are missing because they are arguing against them) is that he’s giving it back AFTER it’s been milked to death. He had ownership when the publishing was super ripe and the industry was fruitful, it’s not like that anymore. The artist MIGHT make a dollar or two if they’re lucky but the millions they could’ve made went to P and his family. So basically it’s worthless unless they just want to be able to say “I own my words again”. Also it could’ve been done quietly but that’s not how he operates when he’s trying to look good to the public.

@suric4828

11 ай бұрын

Facts

@jordanhtiffirg1990

11 ай бұрын

I hear that but what was on the contract before they signed it although I agree the music industry does take advantage of the ignorant which is morally wrong but me personally, I would take that as a lesson and find ways to make money from the publisihing

@BoujiHoodBaby

11 ай бұрын

@@jordanhtiffirg1990 I’m sure they’re going to try and make the best and I wish them luck

@tommygunn940

11 ай бұрын

Back then everyone was about the advance money. Remember when Rakim & Eric B signed that million dollar deal? That’s what everyone was trying to do after that. What they didn’t realize is they are paying that money back ten fold and all the recoup money they can kiss goodbye. I don’t even know if they were getting all their show money back then either. This was before 360 deals.

@bigchase1439

11 ай бұрын

The big catch is puff giving people publishing that ain’t even there’s…. Unless you rapped you got a free ride… the rappers had to write the verses but everything else puff paid for….. that’s the reason most didn’t have a career after him cause puff made they songs/ albums… besides cleaning up his image he ain’t got time to market the material the way the artists would…. I’m sure he still getting a percentage… the reason curry mad is cause he ain’t pop then and really not gonna now puff not involved and curry was nice he bodied the song he was on but puff didn’t really give him play

"Bruh, i ain't sayin nothin but drugs do some weird stuff to ya mind" 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@BlackBBQChicken1998

10 ай бұрын

4:04😂😂😂😂😂🎉

@BlackBBQChicken1998

10 ай бұрын

4:14🎉😂😂😂😂

@newflower8974

10 ай бұрын

Cocaine is a helluva drug lol

When billboard listed the city girls at the top influencers of hip-hop I knew everything had been fake because it is obvious that accolades and awards must be for sale 😡😊

@Icountdeadpeople

10 ай бұрын

Sad part is they probably are modern young women are hopeless & we can largely blame them, “peridot” lol

@newflower8974

10 ай бұрын

@@Icountdeadpeopleperiodt *

Spend the money & hire an ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER to review every word in a contract before signing ✍️... Better to pay upfront in the beginning than to get screwed on the back end 🚫🧢💯

@atomicpimp344

11 ай бұрын

It's not that smooth. Music game ain't like HR and cubicles. Even H.E.R. and a gang of artist all have this issue.

@ThurroAlexander

11 ай бұрын

@@atomicpimp344 THAT'S WHY YOU GET AN ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER!!! 🙄... I've actually been in the music industry (I used to work for one of Miami's most prominent recording studios) so I'm not just talking 🐂💩... LIKE YOU CLEARLY STATED, the music/entertainment industry is not smooth and has never been which is why YOU HIRE AN ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER and have them READ AND EXPLAIN everything in the contract! It's that simple! If there's something in the contract an artist does not like or agree with upon reading the contract BEFORE signing, at that point the artist can restructure/renegotiate the terms in the contract (including publishing rights, intellectual property, royalties, etc...). ITS UP TO THE ARTIST TO BE DILIGENT! 💯💯💯 Furthermore, if an artist has INVESTED in his or herself up to that point (studio time, EP's, marketing, a manager, etc.) and can't invest in an ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER, then they shouldn't become an artist 🤷🏾‍♂️💯...

@LalunatheRevolutionary

11 ай бұрын

​@@atomicpimp344Dumb a**, but if you reach your contract and you go to a lawyer outside of the music industry or just simply reading yourself, you can escape a lot..

@ericphillips1338

11 ай бұрын

💯

@comedicmood2729

11 ай бұрын

What's the point of saying this 20 years after they signed? You come off like an annoying 'I told you so' kid

This brother is making mad sense. We definetly need a Surviving P Diddy miniseries.

The publishing is worth noting now

@Jay.Lombardii

11 ай бұрын

Worth less than $50 a Month. #SAD

@Ms.Federally.Official-Matthews

11 ай бұрын

Nope, nothing, the artist can't even by nothing from the .99 cent store.

@michaelmassey3114

11 ай бұрын

The funny thing Gene is a expert on all things about puff 🤦🏾‍♂️

@Ms.Federally.Official-Matthews

11 ай бұрын

@michaelmassey3114 gene thinks he is an expert. All he just fluffy bodyguard what meeting did he go too. When did he go business or law school. Gene expertise is food. All things food!

@lseguy

11 ай бұрын

Wrong. The entire catalogue is worth $100 million

Gene Deal - Sean Combs ChokeNoJoke - Jay Z MoB James - SUGE Knight NA/CubanLink CharlieRockLD- Fat Joe Spider Loc - 50cent Ali - Nelly GangstaWilliams - CashMoney DTay - Young Buck KShine - URL

@benjaminbreeze3652

11 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@TosereOjeme

11 ай бұрын

Reggie Wright Jr - Snoop dogg Don’t forget that one

@MichOfg1123

11 ай бұрын

K shine - url 😂😂😂😂 don demarco!!!

Finally BIG Gene is back!!

@Ms.Federally.Official-Matthews

11 ай бұрын

Everything Gene says isn't always fact. All he did was bodyguard Fluffy. Where did he go to business or law school. I agree that the publishing was worth nothing. All the artist can do is shoot at the .99 cent store.

Honestly, I haven’t thought of Bad Boy Records in years But I still be listening to Motown artists… This guy knows what he’s talking about

"Its like when you order 5 chicken wings and they only give you 3 wings!" LMAO!

@blachubear

11 ай бұрын

I would had said "It's like going to McDonalds or Burger King, grabbed your bag of food, drove away from the drive thru, open the bag and noticed they forget to put your fries in there".

@sickinthehead7507

11 ай бұрын

It's like going to a movie 🎦 theater and you get a ticket 🎫 for it and when you get a seat there is no movie playing.😂

I am a Gene DEAL fan from the beginning. He's honest and spits the truth! 💯Facts!

Bad Boy “We”… No it’s Bad Boy “You”😂 -Gene Deal

Gene is so articulate love his analogies

Glad to see the request has happened...Next we need Kirk Burrows and Ma$e 🙏🏿

@uploadvidz4490

11 ай бұрын

​@dondada6152 he did Gillie and Wallo's podcast, so who knows

Gene the real deal. Just appreciate how he explains it like he see it. Simple explanations that anyone can understand. Big up Gene #salutethe man

This was Epic ....Gene said nothing but FACT!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

His kids doing more living off the label then the artist that was on the label

@Jcrow21

10 ай бұрын

No

I totally get Gene's point. Diddy might have leveraged their catalogs to get certain deals. It would have been ideal to have the publishing when those songs were selling in record stores or when they were getting considerable airplay. Now many of those songs aren't selling or going to get played on radio to generate significant royalties. But the good thing about getting it back is you never know which song a music supervisor might want for a television/movie scene and if you own the publishing, you're getting paid. Also, many young producers (some who are signed to major labels), sample songs from the 90's that may not be getting consistent radio play anymore. But if it gets sampled, now the publisher is getting paid based on how the new song is doing. So if the new song is a hit and you're getting paid good! A few examples of this in recent years are Lil Nas X "Old Town Road" sampling Nine Inch Nails "34 Ghosts IV"; Tyler the Creator "Wusyaname" sampling H-Town "Backseat (Wit No Sheets)"; and Drake "Nonstop" sampling Mack Daddy Ju "My Head is Spinnin".

@giovannifitzpatrick1987

11 ай бұрын

To your last part, exactly. Not to mention the fact they can remix their own songs and not have to worry about cutting in anybody else that doesn't have a writing or production credit. That alone is a big deal, especially if the original song is a strong enough foundation on its own. This is one of those situations where the artists, especially if they don't have a lot of residual income, have the responsibility of doing something with their previously released music. You can't expect Puff (or anyone) to cut you a big check solely because you were a part of a big song almost 30 years ago. Shop the song around, remix it, and so forth.

@kelvinmanley6166

11 ай бұрын

Most of the songs are samples tho

@elcemuziq8514

11 ай бұрын

@@kelvinmanley6166- Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the writers would still get publishing. The composition would go to the original copywriter/publishing

@kelvinmanley6166

11 ай бұрын

@@elcemuziq8514 think it depends on the owner of the song could be wrong tho hell if it's 50% which sounds reasonable and it's three writes that ain't much

@abc876

11 ай бұрын

​@@giovannifitzpatrick1987y would they remix a 20-30 yr old song. And would it even get play like that?

I figured it was a publicity stunt to make his "Love" rebrand more believable. The music is worth what you make it. There are plenty of ways to capitalize off a record when you own your publishing; They could license it for movies, tv shows and commercials because they now own the rights. And with all these new artists remixing songs from the 90's, they could make money if their lyrics or song melody is sampled... and they'll make chump change from streaming. I wouldn't say it's worth "nothing" and either way you look at it, it's a win for the artist because (1) they have full control and (2) Puffy no longer eats off their pub.

@ElevationNationCONVERSATIONS

11 ай бұрын

your WRONG !!!! noone is licensing that music because most of it is NOT MARKETABLE for commercials or tv shows movies etc....... that music is too negative n ghetto..... so it really cant be used for much

@rillaaa5740

11 ай бұрын

facts and the way even old songs go viral on platforms like tik tok and all the dancing these kids be doing theres a lot of creative ways to bring life to old songs. but these artist are old man when i saw mark curry i couldnt believe it he was completely gray you give a guy his publishing at 50 that you took when he was 25 at this point these artist need people to help them find opportunites to bring life back into those records

@machoboyrandyandsavage3439

11 ай бұрын

The music is like fruit. All wrinkled and rotten now. Had they had it when it was all fresh and ripe then they would have lived very comfortable for the rest of their lives. Puffy is a weak ass bitch and the world knows it!

@Passport_Sho

11 ай бұрын

If giving away 200 million dollars worth of publishing is a publicity stunt, then he deserves all the publicity he can get. The only other big music executive to do such a thing, was Michael Jackson, when he gave Little Richard and all the other black artist their publishing back that had been taken from them back in the 50’s 60’ and 70’s.

@mspennyisaac

11 ай бұрын

@@rillaaa5740 Yeah, it definitely all about finding opportunity. Someone may be working on a 90’s period piece and may want to license the songs. Literally anything can happen. It’s just funny to me because this is a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” kind of situation. If he would’ve held onto their publishing for 20 more years, they’d complain too.

It’s the “MASTERS” that’s the real bag $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

@columbusohio72

11 ай бұрын

No its the publishing. Wtf you smoking?

@victorlofton4381

11 ай бұрын

Both the masters and the publishing is where the money is. But the ownership of the masters is where the real money and control comes. The label makes more off the licensing of the master recording than the artist makes off the publishing of that licensed recording. So imagine how much you make when you own both the publishing and masters.

@MsLady9991

11 ай бұрын

@@victorlofton4381 agreed!!!!!

Wow! Such a great analogy! Giving me back my car with nothing in the tank, that’s brilliant, and an excellent way to describe the situation!!!

He’s made the bulk of the money from their publishing, giving it back at this point is charity.

Yes sirrrrr we needed another Gene Deal pod, listening to his stories is so entertaining

If these publishings are worthless, I am first in line to buy them from whoever is selling. The worst thing that could happen is they go back and sell to diddy at his price. Being broke is a curse and I’m not talking financially broken

@jayc5756

11 ай бұрын

It's not worthless. Classic songs always spin, so they gonna Always make money. But it probably made more money before is what he's saying.

@michaelalexander4205

11 ай бұрын

@@jayc5756 Definitely not worthless. The newly reinstated owners just have to go out and breathe new life into their product. What is even more priceless, is to be able to say “I own my shit”

@marlonthemightysmith7836

11 ай бұрын

​@@jayc5756may be a few thousand. A year thats it

Puff is the only one came out on top in the east/ west coast beef.

@KingDizzleLTDinc.

11 ай бұрын

Snoop and Dre as well

@Shayzar1

11 ай бұрын

thats cause they moved earlier out of the beef before it beame fatal.... @@KingDizzleLTDinc.

@TRILLTALKTV

11 ай бұрын

suge became a legend. name is still ringing in jail

@joel8692

11 ай бұрын

​@@TRILLTALKTVwhat lol? He's broke and in jail for the rest of his life. "Name still riddin I jail " lmaooo

@TRILLTALKTV

11 ай бұрын

@@joel8692 i meant while he's still in jail he's more talked about than puff maybe more popular too

This is business. Why do people pretend to be naive. Wake up brothers and sisters. Love from 🇿🇼

@Shayzar1

11 ай бұрын

cause you guys used to rigging elections hahaha

@myernyanwleh2119

11 ай бұрын

If and when one swindles another person in any kind of business, it's still called swindle. It's greed and indifferent towards your own kind, it's not business.

@ILoveTheAllCreator

11 ай бұрын

We are not even from Africa, those are YT mayo lies.. 🤣 Most Brown Foundation Americans are Native Indos from Asia that migrated to North, South america, and West India. America is literally a sansrkit name, Amaraka: Land of the Immortals.. YT mayos don't want you to know they committed genocide against 100 million Indos... 🤦🏾

@BTman58

11 ай бұрын

​@myernyanwleh2119 So, how did Diddy swindle his artist?

@myernyanwleh2119

11 ай бұрын

@@BTman58 Haven't you listen to his artists? They have all cried about Diddy it. Mase said it himself.

"Who is we"? I cracked up on that part of the video. So poignant. The rest of it is pretty good as well. I had the same idea about this "I am giving back the publishing" saga.

Bad Boy is on the level of Motown , Puff had decades on the radio

@gmain1977

11 ай бұрын

No not the same at all. Motown was so big it is ita own genre of music

@blessedbetit665

11 ай бұрын

Are you aware, Diddy is an artist signed to Motown Records? How are they on the same level if the Boss of Bad Boy is signed as an artist to Motown?

@_2LiveQ

10 ай бұрын

Hell no 🤣

“Bad Boy we…no, its Bad Boy you”- Big Gene Deal 😂😂😂

love seeing gene in hear he keeps it all the way real 🔮

@fakethuglife

11 ай бұрын

To beat off to him too

@Silkysmooth-qk5nc

11 ай бұрын

It’s “here” If I don’t correct you, you will never know

This is why I never thought puffy had a change of heart or anything, because other than biggie smalls the rest of those artist, their music was only worth something when it came out. They could’ve made a couple million back in the day but it’s not like any of those songs were legendary. Biggie is the only one from bad boy that has music that can be used for soundtracks, commercials, etc. I I’m not saying he’s the only one that can be used because of anything legal I’m saying he’s the only one that has music that’s going to get use because he’s looked at as a legendary artist today and everyone knows his songs. If you go back and you look at the other artist that got their publishing back you can’t seriously say that you think Warner Bros. Or Paramount are really going to pay any money for any of those songs to be used in a movie trailer coming out? I’m not seeing nobody remembers it, but I’m just saying there’s not enough people there other than songs that biggie did. If her feet really wanted to look out for them, he would pay them the money that he made off those songs 25 years ago. He can afford it now it’s not like any of those songs individually made millions. Everyone of those songs by themselves probably made a couple million and that would honestly change the life of everyone that got robbed of their money back then.

@LanceG007

9 ай бұрын

That’s not Puffs problem

Puff hasn't done anything any other record label owner hasn't done. He gave you your publishing back, “Take that.”

@PhoenixRising82672

11 ай бұрын

Exactly This isn't charity

@marquiesosborne2869

11 ай бұрын

We know that’s who he get it from

@darrenmcgregor4943

11 ай бұрын

Shitty diddy

@tonytucker8651

11 ай бұрын

@@marquiesosborne2869 What was he supposed to do? Cut his funds short and give them part of his profits

@bayo625

11 ай бұрын

@@tonytucker8651 🤓Mark Curry stated Puff should have offered $1, 000, 000 instead. Mark would have cried for more like Oliver Twist if Puffy did that.

Ive been listening to Gene for about 2 years. He's been on point on everything he has said about Puffy

@100timessquare

11 ай бұрын

Right, because you know Puff personality....😂😂😂😂

@JamesJohnson-lu5kk

11 ай бұрын

Gene knows he can make money off y'all Puffy hating asses. Lol

Just here reading the comments with people talking about “Gene lost Credibility” HE NEVER HAD CREDIBILITY. Some of you think liars can’t maintain the same story every time they tell it, then you haven’t met lawyers or had lawyers before. 😂😂😂

@taytayrazors9033

11 ай бұрын

Have you read Reggie wright Jr comments? Or Have He Block you Again.

@Ms.Federally.Official-Matthews

11 ай бұрын

I agree with actually, you can tell a lie so much you began to believe it. That's actually what makes a great liar

@TosereOjeme

11 ай бұрын

@@taytayrazors9033 Reggie never blocked me, it was John. I know you love Gene so I’d be careful today what I say lol

@TosereOjeme

11 ай бұрын

@@Ms.Federally.Official-Matthews exactly

@taytayrazors9033

11 ай бұрын

@@TosereOjeme ☺️Yes I love 💕 Big Gene 💯 Don't Hate. Lol

The Vast Majority of artists back then, regardless of the label they were on signed a "Standard" Record Contract and didn't get their publishing. What Puffy did is extremely rare.

@jayc5756

11 ай бұрын

True

The up most respects to gene for risking his life talking about a guy down with the dark side

All Facts.. If you look at most of his artist, how they doing to date. Smh

I’m saddened by all of this. What happens in the dark comes to light.

Big Gene stories has never changed since 1997, Facts 💯

@movingforward-fc4lg

11 ай бұрын

Exactly

Big Gene. The most honest and truthful person on KZread. Awesome dude, awesome mindset, awesome personality. Love Big Gene.

Cam'ron actually mentioned it on his IG page. Cam was talking about his and Mase's deal for their show and Cam said Mase got his publishing back too. So I knew about it before Puffy made the announcement.

@Ivanblock757

11 ай бұрын

Shyne and Loon always had thier publishing

@abc876

11 ай бұрын

Y you ain't tell us?

@tonyamati96

11 ай бұрын

@@abc876 😆

Another one keep ‘em coming been watching this channel since 2015 or 2016 let’s continue

Big Unc never lies !! 🙌🎯 Been tuning in to Big Gene for years , he always speaks from the heart

@user-bz8xb4jy2u

11 ай бұрын

​​@@iatlapparel9894you wasn't there!!!He was internet goon behind a smart ph go to bed kid

I heard lots of commercials with 90s hip hop on tv lately. That publishing is going to feed a lot of people. By law artists get their publishing back in 30 years. Thats why he did it.

Lord protect Gene 🙏🏽❤

Gene said " i aint hating on dude" thats the funniest thing ive heard all year 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@amanithurman8950

11 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 Gene deal need to stop eating too much nachos and French toast

It’s About time you brought Gene on. Puffy ain’t nothing God don’t like ugly HE GOT IT COMING.💪🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

This all strikes me as true,,,

Its definitely worth something if you market it correctly. These days their are so many outlets where you can markey your music for free or very little money

Gene a real one

Gives a new meaning to “take that take that”.

Shouts to all the artist that made their own bread afterwards.

You always have to read the fine print 😂

If he was really trying to do right he would have just sold all the masters for a 100Mill or better then hit everybody off wit some real paper

"Tell em why you mad, son! Tell em why you mad!"

And they have to sign a contract that includes they will never talk bad about puffy,Janice combs,his mother and his son.

Read Mark Curry's book , Dancing with the Devil 🔥

@ms.niecey2953

11 ай бұрын

Good book

Definitely worth something, Diddy was offered a lot for Bad Boys catalog but he decided to give it back. I’m sure they can sell it individually.

@msmayor34

11 ай бұрын

💯

@tahjzus837

11 ай бұрын

Y’all idiots 😂🤦🏾‍♂️

A lot of people commenting don’t understand why he’s saying the publishing really isn’t worth anything now, & think that he’s lying, but he’s actually telling the truth. You see, what makes an artists’ publishing valuable is how often it’s played on the radio, downloaded & used in commercials or movies. Bad Boy artists’ music was hot back in the 90’s & early 2000’s, but it’s not hot anymore today. Think about it. How often do you hear their music played on the radio, or in movies or commercials? Not too many artists are popular enough for their music to remain popular decade after decade. Now, artists such as Prince & Michael Jackson, their publishing is very valuable because their music is still played on the radio, downloaded & used in commercials & movies. That’s the difference & what Gene is talking about. Puffy kept their publishing while their music was hot & only gave it back to them because their music is no longer popular

@Garcian_Smith

11 ай бұрын

Be careful those Diddy bots don't wanna hear the common sense you spittin at them.

@patrices8895

8 ай бұрын

Yep

Give puff some credit at least he gave ur publishing back he didn’t have to do that , now you do something with it

@antoniolewis

11 ай бұрын

Exactly

@user-bz8xb4jy2u

11 ай бұрын

too who?????? lil baby rob wave doja cat ain't on Bad Boy label its over

Mack & Rob needed their Publishing almost a Decade ago… 🤡 #ClownPuff

@Ms.Federally.Official-Matthews

11 ай бұрын

Fluffy let those men die on his watch. Both died broke!

@telepathic759

11 ай бұрын

It's not worth anything now. You can't even pay a light bill with it. Lol

@Ms.Federally.Official-Matthews

11 ай бұрын

@@telepathic759 light bill, you can't even get nothing from the dollar store.

@jeffdavis8704

11 ай бұрын

@@telepathic759so why was someone offering 200 million for it?

@jeffdavis8704

11 ай бұрын

@@Ms.Federally.Official-Matthewsso it’s his fault they signed a bad deal and didn’t do right by the money they did make?

Everyone forgets the fact that mase got a couple million advance to make his second album, that he never ended up making so he actually owes puff that money. Puff could've sued him for it if he wanted but never did

@meladgoat

11 ай бұрын

no one forgets, it's just that 2 mill isn't even close to how much puff owes mase. mase wrote many of those major hits for puff, many hits for others, and all the songs for himself. he was also not getting paid on the tour with puff. basically working for free. Do you think i would sue you for a few thousand bucks knowing i owe you millions? makes no sense. everyone said the same thing about puff. everyone ain't lying

@joshculver

11 ай бұрын

Millions, is you dumb. None of them has millions!

@user-bz8xb4jy2u

11 ай бұрын

​@@meladgoatright these weirdos are lost and clueless💆🏾

@robertpitts8161

11 ай бұрын

SMMH 😆

@slickdawg5976

11 ай бұрын

@@meladgoat Mr. Combs as with the case of any business owner only owes the employee (artist) whats contractually obligated. Hence Im certain as to why there is rarely any successful civil litigation brought forth by former Bad Boy artist against the label or Mr. Comes. As a result former Bad Boy artist routinely resort to internet BS, accusations and empty rhetoric. it called the musicBUSINESS for a reason. Contracts are legally binding agreements, if you dont agree to the terms within the document simply refrain from signing. In my opinion you should NEVER relinquish an asset. (Puff Shouldnt have relinquished S#!t)

Just FYI: the ONLY reason why Cream Puff gave everybody their “publishing”, is because too many people have TOO MUCH INFORMATION on him, going ALLLL the way back to Biggie days. Cream Puff CANNOT AFFORD to lose EVERYTHING.

I was wondering what "Usual" AOD was coming to interview yet. Puff's number basher BIG Gen Deal. This channel is how Vlad used to be

Its still worth something if its still playing today...which it is, cause a lot of them made classics. But yeah, Puff made a ton from it already, so yeah.

It’s ashame cuz ppl will still support puffy cuz they’re enchanted by the success and celebrity. Instead of holding him accountable of all the grimy shyt he’s done to his artists. #BadBoy4Life

@slickdawg5976

11 ай бұрын

its called the musicBUSINESS...Dont sign the contract if you dont like the terms outlined within it.

@Jaystarski

10 ай бұрын

@@slickdawg5976 Here we go with a conservative ass music exec wannabe 🙄.

For the average artist, these publishings mostly follow an exponential decay type of curve: they bring in a lot of money when the albums first come out but quickly decrease. Of course, there is always the possibility of having one or two major hits that catch on and end up being used for commercials, movies, etc., but that’s rare. With the exception of 112 and Mase, what bad boy artists have long lasting hits?

He got videos attacking Puff for owning their publishing, not he criticizing him for giving it to them. Find any photo of gene deal with Puff, he always smiling from ear to ear. He enjoyed the ride as long as he was getting a Bad Boy Check

Go get his book y’all! 💯🔥

St. Louis is representing-Love Gene!!! He speaks facts all the time!!!!💯💯💯Shout out to my city birthing a real one!!!💯💯💯

@high_maintenance

11 ай бұрын

Same! I’m from stl and lived in nyc since graduating undergrad! I love Big Gene and 19Keys they speak facts

@MyMsVTV

11 ай бұрын

@@high_maintenance 💯💯💯

Love the empty gas tank example. Gene should be a professor, his delivery and analysis is above par!

Black people expect the business men in their community to be Santa Claus. Develop a hustler's mindset and you don't have to worry and hope someone will give you more than what the contract you signed says. Being signed by Diddy was an opportunity that took you out of being a everyday regular person that you are supposed to take and flip to the next opportunity, not just sit on that one opportunity and hope Daddy Diddy takes care of you for life.

I was about to say the same thing. Since streaming, publishing ain't worth nothing. 😂 One million streams is barely $6K. 😂

@MarcusStinney

11 ай бұрын

Wrong, it's still means a lot.

@telepathic759

11 ай бұрын

@@MarcusStinney you couldn't even pay a light bill for one month with a black rob publishing. Let alone a 112 publishing. 😂

@GHOST91141

11 ай бұрын

​@@telepathic759Black Rob Whoa can't even keep the lights on every month 😂😂

@pedrogates3189

11 ай бұрын

You’re wrong if the artist owned their publishing they’d make much more than what they’re getting y’all need to do ya homework instead of listening to these old niggas in a podcast that are bitter

@antobyrne5944

11 ай бұрын

​@@telepathic759😂 best comment

Bad boy is on the level of Motown.. Berry Gordy did the same thing... Marvin Gay died broke... living with moms and pops..pops killed him for not washing the dishes 😮

@zaytime4156

10 ай бұрын

Lol wtf😮

All those artists should get together and put out an album. Independant. A physical old school album. They will sell millions and make a killing. Any surviving people getting their rights back unite man. Old school fans will love it.

@bryanveney2652

11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately it wouldn’t even sell 10k 😢. But wishful thinking

@brianforgie7724

11 ай бұрын

@@bryanveney2652 you be surprised man. Lots of people have a soft spot for people associated with puffy and bad deals. They won't be any worse then the shit thats out there now.

@bryanveney2652

11 ай бұрын

@@brianforgie7724 there wouldn’t be no big machine behind them for marketing so the old school fan wouldn’t know the album exist to buy. Then younger generation don’t buy anything they just stream. It would be a waste of time. Only way they can get something out of it is if Diddy does a versus and brings out some of the older bad boy artist. Maybe then people will stream it again

@user-bz8xb4jy2u

11 ай бұрын

too late. older generation don't stream

@brianforgie7724

11 ай бұрын

@@user-bz8xb4jy2u no man put out a physical vinyl album. Only way to make money off recorded music. Independent release all the money is yours and you control shit. I am 60 so I am in that non streaming group but I do buy vinyl older vinyl ( before the 2000's). Those guys appeal to my age group and believe me vinyl is big. We like physical media, records, books etc. I got lots of cool albums, real music not auto tuned, pro tooled to death. I would buy it and I don't even listen too those dudes.

Everyone has one in the family, big Unc who keeps it a buck, that's Gene!

Gene goes from security to financial expert management services 🤔

@centurianrecords

11 ай бұрын

It's common sense dude

Great analogy with the car

If any of y'all remember the whole bru hah ha with the Lox and Puffy owning half of there publishing and them going off i would love to hear what they think.

Salute to gene he always speaks facts mase and the lox got the bag bag bag so they not worried about that

I’m so tired of hearing this story because truth be told they signed the contract and took the advance record company people are shady but you signed #facts

@Petitedelight87K

11 ай бұрын

Same here. Irv made a good point. Producers make their money from the publishing. The artist can still do shows for money. I’m probably not explaining it the best.

@movingforward-fc4lg

11 ай бұрын

Exactly that’s why you can’t be so quick to sign a contract

@M.Polo517

11 ай бұрын

@@Petitedelight87K facts

@jfen1494

11 ай бұрын

simple...stop listening

@Petitedelight87K

11 ай бұрын

@@M.Polo517 I think many get a raw deal but on the flip side many may not be deligent with their money. They ignore the business side until they’re broke. Furthermore, everyone first deal isn’t ideal bc of the risk.

Mase is the only bad boy artist that'll benefit from getting his publishing back

@jordanhtiffirg1990

11 ай бұрын

How so why can't the others benefit?

@timfwaygo2537

11 ай бұрын

@@jordanhtiffirg1990 lol mase literally was bad boys savior after biggie died and wrote all them hits for diddy and him

@jordanhtiffirg1990

11 ай бұрын

@timfwaygo2537 I agree but that's not to say that no one else can benefit from getting their publishing if they put the work in to market it correctly

Why Don't You Ask Why Was Amir Mohammed Walking Outside Of The Peterson Museum Garage Just Moments Before The Shots Were Fired On March 9 1997?

They say treat people good because when you come down everybody will remember.

I only have one question. If it’s worth nothing, why were ALL of them begging for their publishing?

@trinibaduk9012

11 ай бұрын

Because it’s there’s, wouldn’t you ask for your property when u see someone getting rich from it

@Shayzar1

11 ай бұрын

they sold it! @@trinibaduk9012

@frankstudent

11 ай бұрын

They were asking for it like twenty years ago.

@KrishnaSingh-ow1ie

11 ай бұрын

When you own your publishing you control the rights to your music. So anybody streaming your music. You get the revenue from it. But the thing is when years go on your music might not be hot no more and nomody is streaming it

@user-bz8xb4jy2u

11 ай бұрын

​@@KrishnaSingh-ow1ieBingo thats why he gave it back. Banks dried up streaming services aren't getting major requests for Bad Boy music

The only people that can benefit from the publishing is Biggie estate and maybe faith Evans. But for certainly biggie is music is timeless and people still play it. The rest of them artist are done for🤦🏽‍♂️‼️

I’ve been saying this for months , I didn’t even know gene did a video about it

Gene Deal isn't lying, Puffy robbed so many of his artists money lol. Dude talent level was insane, Puffy the type that will either help his artist rise to fame and then screw them over. Or when he's working on a new experience group of artists and when it doesn't pans out. He will leave them in the dust. That's why, I'm glad Biggie didn't signed Lil Kim/Cease to Bad Boy records. Puffy had: Craig Mack, Biggie, Total, 112, The Lox, Mary J Blige, Loon, Usher, Mase, Making The Band, Danity Cane, Shyne, Faith Evans, Black Rob, Carl Thomas, Boyz N Da Hood, Gorilla Zoe, Cassie ( he was messing around with) Young Joc, even Young Joc said in an interview on Vladtv. Puffy is a cool dude. But business wise, don't make those moves with him 😂

@justlurkin

11 ай бұрын

They always have the option to be regular people like you and me. People don't understand that business is about using someone else while they use you. Ya'll be wanting freebies and handouts when what you need is a strategic mind and hustle to turn nickels into dollars. Diddy went from an intern to a mogul doing just that. Not by telling his bosses they should give him things just because.

@adresebyndumthabasedgod1991

11 ай бұрын

Usher was never signed to bad boy

If people would pay attention puffy would have been in jail

Why is everybody acting like the record label isn't suppose to secure legacy? Because Puff is black? None of Puff artist would have been bigger without him. Including BIG.

Aubrey from Danity Kane said the SAME thing and is also alleging that something is about to come out about Diddy which may be motivating him to do this.