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@ryvyr

3 ай бұрын

I have cherished Wisecrack's videos over the years, and would stretch my dollars thinner if it meant non-adsense reels were placed with mutual consideration at very front/back/both rather than interrupting the flow, where I would gladly watch them :(

@WisecrackEDU

3 ай бұрын

Good note and we'll try to incorporate it. I promise we're trying to use the least amount of ads while making enough to stay afloat. We'll try to hit a better balance. @@ryvyr

@ryvyr

3 ай бұрын

@@WisecrackEDU It is verily appreciated, and I am overly sympathetic to the plight of fulltime creators with how Google keeps cutting adsense pay. Their C-suite is starving for yahts after all. They lean on people using sponsors who themselves circumstantially dictate placement window in videos. I would be angry but avarice is a pittiable illness.

@lobiqpidol818

3 ай бұрын

Keep this video up so in a few years you can come back and remember supporting this atrocity. Genital mutilation isn't a mental health treatment.

@MarcillaSmith

3 ай бұрын

​@@WisecrackEDUthank you for the subject matter. Something that confuses me - here and elsewhere - is how every "trans 101" talk from 15+ years ago knew that "gender" was an umbrella term that covered many things including not just gender expression, but also gender identity, biological sex, physical morphology, etc., but more recently, everything I see has reverted to a more basic "gender is just this and sex is just that" way of speaking. Adding to my confusion is that it's part of the same talk that says, "it's not a binary."

For some strange reason, people seem to take offense when they meet other people who they can’t relate to. I’m from the mountains, you’re from the coast, but instead of appreciating the two unique experiences each of have and the information that can be gained and exchanged between us, we’re more likely to argue with each other about who’s area was better.

@septanine5936

3 ай бұрын

I think it stems form how people often want to think of themselves and others as part of a binary, based on perceived similarities and differences. because then they can say one is right and one is wrong, one is good and one is bad. and all of that is much simpler than the nuance of life and experiences, where one is forced to acknowledge that things are complex, and maybe they're not always right or good.

@HylianFox3

3 ай бұрын

Tribalism is a thing that goes waaaaaay back

@MirdjanHyle

3 ай бұрын

Here's a way I personally like to conceptualise it: people sometimes tie their identity to their ideas, and when that happens a disagreement may feel like an attack on one's own identity. People also sometimes suffer from a combination of a thing called "Just World Fallacy" (which is when we think that bad things happen to bad people) and "The Halo Effect" (being correct, being intelligent and being a good person are all connected). So being contradicted on one's own core identity feels like an attack on our intelligence and mortality. On top of it, social media amplifies the loudest voices so when someone isn't particularly attached to a certain idea we don't notice because they tend to stay silent.

@felixcarrier943

3 ай бұрын

@@MirdjanHyle This is interesting in the context of the video because those who are most set in their anti-queerness are also often the most adamant that it has nothing to do with *them* ; that is doesn't challenge *their* identity in any way. This seems to happen over and over. When it came to debates regarding marriage equality, they'd admit that a gay couple getting married didn't affect *them* in any material way, but they *still* opposed it as though it did, as though their marriage was somehow made lesser by others also having the same opportunity and legal recognition. So it did affect their identity in at least some way; it meant that they were now on equal footing in respect of it to those that they considered lesser.

@MirdjanHyle

3 ай бұрын

@@felixcarrier943 Yeah, I noticed! I am Non Binary, and every time someone try to debate me out of my own existence they keep constantly repeating that "everyone is free to do what they want, BUT..." In your specific example I think that's related to the fact that when we are experiencing anxiety we tend to cling to simple ideas that can explain our place in the world. We are bombarded with ads that try to sell us a better life than the one we have, and this creates in us artificial insecurity about our place in the world, and our very meaning in it. The same people who are selling us this insecurity are also selling us solutions that are clear, simple and wrong. In that headspace, nuance becomes a threat, because it can imply that those simple ideas we're so desperately clinging to may not be the sturdy foundation we thought they would be.

What Wisecrack fails to realize when they say their lack of patreon support proves they don't have the influence to change their viewers' gender, what they fail to realize is I am far more protective of my money than I am of my gender identity

@nikolaibuscho5881

3 ай бұрын

Same. But now I don't have a gender to protect...

@mitchelljones4843

3 ай бұрын

I don’t really have much of either is my problem… 😅

@Matty002

3 ай бұрын

@@nikolaibuscho5881 🤝

@CaptPeon

3 ай бұрын

​@@mitchelljones4843but you have my support... for whatever that's worth

@popejaimie

3 ай бұрын

Wise

"A tickle from Hitler's mustache" rivaled the level of discomfort it was describing.

Hearing you say “if you’re in a state that allows you to teach that” really sounds so fucked hearing it from outside of the states

@WisecrackEDU

3 ай бұрын

Things are getting real out here.

@matthewgilbert9881

3 ай бұрын

Trust me, it sounds no less fucked up from within one of those states.

@ChrisMaverick

3 ай бұрын

and it sounds SUPER fucked when you live in a state where you can teach it.... and DO teach it because of your job... and are really worried that at a moments notice you can lose that because of one bad election... (or just maybe a random overstep by a lifetime court appointee)

@CaptPeon

3 ай бұрын

Living in one of those states and having a trans child... the teachers and I are trying our best! It's an unnecessary and precarious situation for those that actually care about individuals being themselves... the best anyone can possibly be!

@matthewgilbert9881

3 ай бұрын

@@CaptPeonyeah, I’m a school psychologist in Texas, and I’ve had counseling with gay adolescents in rural areas, it is so frustrating and sad not having real resources and support to direct them to within their community.

Leave it to Beaver is the prequel to Angry Beavers, where Norbert gets married and promptly divorces, and is then thrown in jail for a few months after being framed for fraud. In season 5, while Norbert is hospitalized after a riot in prison, we see Daggett thrown out of his apartment in the city, forced to return to the creek.

@johnnygoodman2003

3 ай бұрын

Gravity Falls is the animated biography for the band Gravity Kills.

@marnenotmarnie259

3 ай бұрын

I FORGOT ABOUT ANGRY BEAVERS

@grammarmaid

3 ай бұрын

*Slow clap.* Excellent. No notes.

@SellamAbraham

3 ай бұрын

What in the hell are you lunatics talking about?

Leave it to Beaver is a crossover show between HGTV and The Animal Planet about beavers building homes for the poor.

Leave it to Beaver is a show about a group of activists protesting construction of manmade dams while establishing a workers union to fight for equal rights and fair work for beavers around the world. “Leave it to the beavers!” Is their motto but they thought it wasn’t catchy enough for the title of the show. It’s a docuseries

@WisecrackEDU

3 ай бұрын

Very good.

@bunk95

3 ай бұрын

When thought of as a tv show?

@Nibiru3600X

3 ай бұрын

I want to watch this!

@pmcmanus420

3 ай бұрын

Number 1 show in Canada for 11 seasons.

Leave it to Beaver had the dirtiest line ever uttered on TV to that point on it: "Ward, I think you were a little hard on the beaver last night."

@mrsloan7361

3 ай бұрын

And then they fist bump.

@eric2500

3 ай бұрын

😋😋😂😂

@MSHNKTRL

3 ай бұрын

I think Wally said "Aw Heck" once.

As a redhead, my favorite gender fun fact is that there’s the same percentage of intersex people in the world as ginger people in the world.

@kravan5063

3 ай бұрын

Intersex people suffer from genetic and physical deformities, and almost always heavily lean towards one camp, not directly 50/50. Ginger people have a mutation in their genetics that results in a hair colour change. Not really comparable.

@IamgladthatIamglad

2 ай бұрын

that is fun statsitic!

@Zanaki113

2 ай бұрын

imagine being both, gotta be rare rare

@billyalarie929

2 ай бұрын

That’s a pretty good fact, I like that

@NeatherTraveler

2 ай бұрын

And even less intersex ginger people

It's wild to me. Society generally didn't care about these social changes, or they generally accepted them during times of anything resembling economic stability, but, while not always, many of these moral panics generally seem to arise during times of economic depression and stagnation. Maybe these moral panics are manufactured to distract the wider public from something? Perhaps, from their homes being foreclosed and investors snatching them up to resell to the people with the biggest wallets? Or their wages and salaries not keeping up with prices being raised all of a sudden?

@Grassdia

3 ай бұрын

This is EXACTLY the issue imo people just don’t recognise it.

@50-50_Grind

3 ай бұрын

Look over there: a red herring! LOOK!

@DaughterofDiogenes

3 ай бұрын

Ding ding ding

@borjaslamic

3 ай бұрын

To be slightly paranoid: Divide et impera. The people with power pay media companies to sew discontent between groups of people, so that they don't focus their anger on them.

@kingarchlich5142

3 ай бұрын

Modern media is both a blessing and a curse. Ideas and ideals can be shared in a wider area to a wider audience. Its not that these are more commonplace than older times, at least in a general sense, but can get to a wider viewing space compared to older times.

“Leave It To Beaver” is about a married couple of French prostitutes who move to New York City in the late 1940s following WWII. It’s very artsy but also surprisingly funny

@WisecrackEDU

3 ай бұрын

This sounds like a fantastic new wave film.

@o1ecypher

3 ай бұрын

is it on Netfilx?

@CortexNewsService

3 ай бұрын

This is the best answer

@ggk9828

3 ай бұрын

Wait.... Is it?

@xXAkirhaXx

3 ай бұрын

The Beaver knows the way

Disagree with the French Revolution being the point where this strict binary was legally enforced. Peep the Code of Hammurabi from thousands of years prior BCE. Women were treated as property for dowries and expected to produce male offspring who could inherit farmland by law.

@lysanamcmillan7972

3 ай бұрын

You can't draw a firm line for when it started where, really. Some areas of the world lack a gender binary to this day. Some cultures refuse to use gender as a concept at all. In Western societal history, you hit it on the head. Rome and Greece were also very strict about gender roles. It's two ways of looking at the same issue when you realize the priestesses of Cybele, who mostly were AMAB people who would castrate themselves and sometimes drank the urine from pregnant mares to look more feminized, had different legal statuses in each empire. Greece was "anatomy is destiny" types and never allowed them to be legal women. Rome's attitude was "if you want to be the dregs of society so badly, we'll let you" and granted them legal gender changes. Meanwhile, the Talmud lists six genders. Two cis, four trans. The trans pairing that might not come to mind at first is AMAB or AFAB transitioning to having no gender at all. As one who has no gender, I read the specific passage in translation and felt like I'd been seen by a priest I'd never meet.

@aymanzeroual6615

2 ай бұрын

i think he meant when it began on bigger scale and in within the modern era hence why it was transported to the usa by European colonialism

Without searching, I would imagine it to be a David Crockett type show where he shows you how to hunt and prepare beavers

@mattvonwenden5405

3 ай бұрын

I recall I once ate beaver as imported from Russia. I recall finding it decently good; though it also had 'woody' qualities to it. Perhaps not much a surprise. There was also some bear meat that was imported; I recall it having ham qualities regarding texture; didn't like it too much.

When I was in elementary school in the late1960s in Southern California, schools still required girls to wear dresses. We were only allowed to wear pants on very cold or rainy days. As I grew I rode my bike a lot more and dresses too often got caught in the chain, so I started wearing pants much more. One spring day, the school actually took me out of class and called my mother because it wasn't cold enough in their estimation for me to be allowed to wear pants. My amazing Mom tore into the principal for arbitrarily deciding what days girls were allowed to wear trousers, and the rule changed that day. By third grade all girls could wear pants or dresses as they chose, although shorts were still considered "play clothes" and not "school clothes" so they were not allowed.

Also, the line "You're not a bigot, you're a SCIENTIST" Ho-leeeee shit! Where were you sixteen years ago when I needed to hear those exact words spoken to me in that exact tone?

@HylianFox3

3 ай бұрын

How many times have I heard people unironically say "I'm not a bigot, I'm just stating facts!" Few things are worse than people who try to dress up their hatred and ignorance in a guise of respectability...

@FiercelyGold

3 ай бұрын

​@@HylianFox3well if they actually believed in facts most of the time... but if they normally believe in an imaginary friend that judges them and grants them an afterlife then why are they suddenly pretending they care about facts? Like, pick ONE reason to feel superior to others.

@QwertyCaesar

3 ай бұрын

For further reading on the subject I recommend Zinnia Jones' "Atheist Transphobia: Superstition Over Science" which is available to read on her site (just Google it) and is presented here on KZread under that title. It also touches more broadly on homophobia among people whose hate doesn't come from some sort of religious fundamentalism. The essay is also really great at revealing how a lot of people who become atheists don't drop their previous assumptions that they held for religious reasons and instead hold the same belief but assert it's not backed by science rather than God.

@Xanthelei

3 ай бұрын

@@FiercelyGold That's a false dichotomy. There are plenty of religious scientists out there who both have a belief in something unexplained by science and also in scientific facts. The problem is not both holding a faith and acknowledging facts at the same time, it's hiding behind a faith to ignore facts. When someone says they're "just stating facts," they're actively trying to lessen the cognitive dissonance of being presented with reality while clinging to their incorrect ideas, and should be treated as deeply unserious in that moment for that thing. Don't write people off wholesale, it's not helpful.

@Mastikator

2 ай бұрын

They say the same thing when those same people try to ban education of evolution.

It doesn't surprise me that much that people forget the ideals of gender have always been shifting and changing. In ancient Greco-Roman society, the ideal man was a dominant bisexual hero and conqueror. In Arthurian times, the ideal man was a chivalrous, chaste Christian knight of virtue. In the 18th to 19th century, the Fop/Dandy, with his high heels and effete mannerism, was the ideal man of fashion and wit. The woman ideal in ancient society was either like Penelope (chaste but clever and ladylike) or she had a high libido (the ancients to medieval people saw women as highly promiscuous, up until the Victorian era when society started seeing women as these asexual Angels in the House with no desires of her own other than to please her husband and raise children). Gender constructs and concepts have always changed.

@Based_Gigachad_001

3 ай бұрын

Okay I agree with this.

@AimaCox-Zucker

3 ай бұрын

peak european masculinity in 1750 was a lace gown, wig, and high heels 👠👠

@heavenhostage6860

3 ай бұрын

Yet In your example I only see two genders, sexual orientation and the beauty standards.

@sammyvictors2603

3 ай бұрын

@@heavenhostage6860 well there are stories and myths of people changing to different genders. Some even historical like Chevalier d'Eon. In Albania, there was the role of Sworn Virgin, women who dressed and lived socially as men. We even had intersex and nonbinary deities like Hermaphroditus.

@zacharybosley1935

3 ай бұрын

​@heavenhostage6860 it's a little western, yes. There's no mention of Eunuchs being historically recognized as a third gender, or two-souled native American people, or the entire library of research on Trans people and gender-nonconformity that went up in smoke during the 1940s...

14:50 As a former evangelical and bisexual person, I once became convinced of the idea that I had autogynophelia. “How is it possible,” I wondered, “that I can truly love sex with women but also feel a pull toward sex with men?” To a large extent, I wanted my preferences to be a pathology because it’s less embarrassing to have a pathology than it is to just have a preference.

@CyberChrist

Ай бұрын

As most things in the mental health realm, it's defined as a pathology when it significantly hampers your functioning.

Its weird how the parents rights movement always seems to be "I don't want my child to be educated about anything I don't already know and understand."

@valeoncat13

3 ай бұрын

That's because good parents tend to understand that their children are also human beings capable of complex thought and also understand that being uncomfortable is a part of learning in life. And when they have questions or something comes up... you talk to your kids and grow with them in the process.

@Uarehere

3 ай бұрын

Parents understand biology...that tends to be how they become parents in the first place. I dare say they are experts on the subject!

@elKinesis

3 ай бұрын

Exactly! It's regressive, or at least stagnant. You bring up a good point. Imagine if the people who hold these values extended them to other disciplines. "My child came home with a physics textbook, and I don't understand this "conservation of energy". I saw a youtuber make free energy from a salt crystal, and that looks legit. Ban all physics textbooks!"

@elKinesis

3 ай бұрын

@@UarehereThere are a lot of people who become parents because they don't understand the basics of biology, mostly because they grew up somewhere that didn't teach comprehensive sex ed (or their parents didn't sign a waiver), and then got down without knowing the potential consequences.

@Michaelalovespandas

3 ай бұрын

They seem to forget that children have rights too. Your right to share your beliefs with your kid does not override their right to an education

I have nothing to say but I wanna help out this video, so I will just leave a comment quoting a fragment of the 1989 Belgian techno anthem Pump Up The Jam. "Pump up the jam Pump it up While your feet are stompin' And the jam is pumpin' Look at here the crowd is jumpin' Pump it up a little more Get the party going on the dance floor See, cause that's where the party's at And you'd find out if you do that"

@WisecrackEDU

3 ай бұрын

YOU ARE CURRENTLY WINNING THE COMMENT AWARDS.

@umbomb

2 ай бұрын

Philomena Cunk @@WisecrackEDU

Afab. Growing up, I was treated so different than my brother or male friends. Once I hit puberty, my dad all but disowned me because periods, boobs, anything feminine made him uncomfortable. I saw in media that the only point of "female" was to be an object to change a man's life or to be assaulted and abused. I did not want to be female. I still to this day am unlearning how much I hate being female. That being said, as much as I know being male would be so much easier- I am female. If being trans was a choice, I would much rather be a man, but I'm just NOT. Male is not my identity, it's societys portrayal of female that I hate, not my body. If that much pressure can't change my identity, then under funded schools and other people's existence isn't going to change kids minds either. Trans isn't taught. It's lived! Trans people and other genders and identities are none of our business! The only policing of people's bodies/private life that we should be doing is "was it consensual adults? Yes? Then it's none of my business"

@HeortirtheWoodwarden

3 ай бұрын

Transgenderism is the recontextualization of someone's angst by blaming it on this weird, esoteric concept of "gender", and offers a solution to that angst, that can be at most a placebo, a long-term goal for that person to strive towards to give them meaning, and a cult-like community that gives them a sense of belonging. If you want to go down that road that's up to you, but society shouldn't be forced to go along with your delusions and maladaptive coping mechanisms. None of this gives you the right to intrude in the other sex's spaces or have your beliefs be memetically spread through society by our institutions. Children can't consent to your group's harmful practices, and doctors shouldn't have the right to profoundly and permanently harm you to fulfill your ritualistic rebirth.

@djkori5521

3 ай бұрын

Yeah totally being a man is great *wants to kill myself & no one gives a shit about me at all time lol. Nice story tho fr, but as a man of about 30 now. Yeah no. I really wish we werent seen as so disposable

@ailo4x4

3 ай бұрын

Hi, and thanks for being so open about your experience. Can I ask a question for clarity on your position? (I'm not arguing, just trying to understand better) If I understand you correctly you are saying that identifying as male, for you, is not who you are but for others in your situation it can be? I've known many women who were absolutely furious at the way they are treated by society because of their sex and are very happy in their skin. I've known others, male and female, who were furious at their own bodies (for biological reasons, not sociological ones) and felt they naturally existed in the opposite sex. Are you saying that both are valid? I personally think so but I just wanted to understand you better. Many thanks!

@VoidicHerald

3 ай бұрын

Pretty based ngl❤️

@Ford_prefect_42

3 ай бұрын

@@ailo4x4 that's a good way to put it. Like my frustration with my gender identity had nothing to do with my body and everything to do with society. However my trans friend felt that same frustration towards society but also his body. He knew he was in the wrong body. I knew I was in the right one. I'm proud of him for realizing that and knowing that about himself.

It is sad seeing how difficult people make just living for queer people. I wish critical thinking was taught in schools so that people learn to question their beliefs instead of blindly defending them and seeing a threat in disagreements

@nivoset

3 ай бұрын

Oddly my weird ass elementary school taught that. Along with a vague how to look things up... which was much more Dewey decimal orientated but started me on my love to learn

@danielkjm

3 ай бұрын

You are the ones making it harder... When you do weird crap people will find you strange and the human response is always distrust and fear.

@ari_40ari_40

3 ай бұрын

​@@danielkjmmid bait right here 😬

@CyberChrist

3 ай бұрын

Living is one thing, trying to force people to play along is another.

@AssasinZorro

3 ай бұрын

@@CyberChrist You are correct. Sad thing is, the conservatives are trying to force everyone to play along.

On the subject of detransition, if you're AMAB and you transition to female, and then later come out as nonbinary, the study would count that as "detransition" even though no nonbinary person would conceive of it that way. Its not a back and forth thing, its more of a sideways transition

@irradiatedPirateBooty

3 ай бұрын

isnt that also applicable to afab individuals too? some trans men have realized theyre non-binary after a full transition too. or are trans men left out of the study? (genuine question, not being a smartass ahaha, im a trans man myself and i know we're often excluded)

@NTA_Luciana

3 ай бұрын

@@irradiatedPirateBooty exactly right, the sword cuts both ways

@danielkjm

3 ай бұрын

Cosplay has gone too far.

@NTA_Luciana

3 ай бұрын

@@danielkjm you look like you use linux

@irradiatedPirateBooty

3 ай бұрын

@dragonclaw9000 damn, was hoping I was wrong to an extent, but I'm also not surprised. We're left out of so many studies and forgotten about in general. On one hand, yea most of the anti-trans attacks are towards transwomen who have to brave the front of it, but on the other, we often get cast aside, forgotten about, and so our fellow trans brothers have no resources to turn to

I've always found it super interesting that most of the debate is around transwomen. I rarely hear any complaints about transmen. Anyone else noticed this and have an idea about it? Im going to wager that it probably has something to do with the objectification of women mixed with a deep sense of homophobia, but Im sure Im missing something.

@GaryOPostle

3 ай бұрын

they like to frame trans men as misguided and manipulated victims which I think also feels misogynistic

@saiyamoru

3 ай бұрын

It's the sports thing. And the assault/SA statistics re: AMAB offenders and AFAB victims. Transmen are not viewed as a threat to the AMAB population in the same way the AFAB population (especially trauma survivors) may view transwomen. I genuinely think there's some element of PTSD involved when it comes to radfem/TERF motivations.

@septanine5936

3 ай бұрын

I think it's because society views women and the associated femininity as 'precious' and 'in need of protection' like it does children, because it wasn't long ago that people thought women were less intelligent, immature, and childlike, and some still believe that to some degree. so when you have 'men pretending to be women', it's a threat to the 'precious' women, and so they get fired up. and maybe it's not the same for trans men because men aren't perceived that way.

@nivoset

3 ай бұрын

I do feel for the men and women who get abused. I also wonder how much of this is from people who were abused themselves in some way.

@felixcarrier943

3 ай бұрын

The transphobic rhetoric around them often infantilises them; they are seen as "lost" and easily susceptible to the manipulation of others, if not outright incapable of making decisions for themselves. In other words, they are also targeted, but the transphobia they face often seeks to cast them as too stupid to know what they're doing, even as adults.

Leave it to beaver is an iconic Canadian show about a lesbian named Anne who lived in a house with green gables

I’m so grateful wisecrack has a video on this topic now! As a trans person I’m always weary of the content providers I watch on yt. While I always assumed Michael and the team were pro trans-rights, it’s really nice to have solid confirmation of this. Love ur stuff, and getting paid to watch it at my 9-5 lol…

@WisecrackEDU

3 ай бұрын

We love nothing more than our trans homies stealing time from their bosses to watch our content.

@CorwinFound

3 ай бұрын

I feel the same. Until a creator outright comes out as pro-trans I always feel like I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop.

@nivoset

3 ай бұрын

It is nice. I did have to start the episode slightly worried overall. But yay. Let people be themselves and enjoy life.

@Valleybucker

3 ай бұрын

@@WisecrackEDUbased as fuck

@randee4550

3 ай бұрын

​@@WisecrackEDUwho the fuck has "trans homies"????? This is the weirdest shit I've read, in a minute.

Leave it to Beaver is clearly a kids show about a beaver named Beaver who likes to help a cast of colourful characters with whatever problems they're having that week.

One thing that I didn't see mentioned a lot in the video is that gender roles are used to define the ideals of the society. What is a perfect person? Someone who does a good job at fulfilling their gender role. And so when someone comes along and defies gender roles, people who can't reflect beyond the standards they're taught will dismiss them as failures who aren't even trying to be "good". In my opinion, just this bias alone is enough for cult builders to see queer people as easy scapegoats to build their fear campaigns on.

Fungi can have thousands of sexes? At some point it has to stop being fun and just becomes a chore

@WisecrackEDU

3 ай бұрын

A guy I knew in his school swore that at summer camp he had thousands of sexes but honestly I think he might have been lying.

@Stryfe52

3 ай бұрын

No fair, why can’t I get that much sex?

I think Leave It To Beaver would follow a beaver-themed superhero with beaver superheroes, after defeating his supervillains, where he tries to find a job but his powers prevents him from staying in a stable job.

Medications used as puberty blockers have side effects that are not entirely reversible. Lupron particularly has been part of multiple lawsuits because their manufacturer unreported issues including young adults who had been treated for precocious puberty years before ending up with severe osteoporosis linked to Lupron use that they knew was a possibility. Like all medications, it's a balance of benefits and risks, but we don't do anyone any benefit to dismiss that there are risks. There is enough ignoring medication side effects for vulnerable populations.

@LuluTheCorgi

3 күн бұрын

That's why your bone density regularily gets tested when you are on puberty blockers

RIP Nex Benedict

@jooseppielleese7156

3 ай бұрын

an hero

@MarcLL

Ай бұрын

The girl who killed herself after starting a fight in a bathroom?

Yall should put your sources in the description or comments or something cuz I wanna be able to cite more this video

@Sara3346

2 ай бұрын

You are not alone in wanting this.

"Sex is determined by your chromosomes" is the human biology equivalent of Newtonian mechanics

@levibee9451

3 ай бұрын

How many people have even seen their chromosomes?

@chronometer9931

3 ай бұрын

​@@levibee9451You don't need to see the chromosomes, the reality is that they are what they are and you can't change that no matter how much you want to

@levibee9451

3 ай бұрын

@@chronometer9931 I don't want to change them, what would the point be since no one can see them and I don't even know what they are to begin with?

@darkira2129

3 ай бұрын

We can't change it, yet... Who know what we able to do in next 100 years

@groggod666

3 ай бұрын

@@chronometer9931 no one wants to change their chromosomes, they do no matter at all and most of humanity did not know about chromosomes until the 20th century, no one ever utilized them to dictate someone's gender.

"Leave It To Beaver" is a romantic comedy starring Justin Beaver, and it follows his exploits in his way to find love and the meaning of life. Starring by Joe Jonas as Justin Beaver and Justin Beaver plays his best friend. Also, Jack Black makes a cameo as Karl Marx and inspires Justin to bring about the revolution.

Colouring outside the lines of the traditional hierarchy. Makes people ask why they need to stay inside the lines in the first place..

One thing I don’t think I heard mentioned but I assume plays an impactful role and influences the politics of all of this is religion. I grew up in an extremely religious family and as the general population seemed to almost becoming more accepting of being gay - those with religious beliefs seemed to see this as the start of being more “blatant” about our “sin”. So as the topic of transgender became more common place the religious voices started to become louder as well.

@felixcarrier943

3 ай бұрын

Zoe Bee has an interesting video related to this topic; in particular, the right-wing attacks on public education, which are largely driven by dominionism and Christian nationalism, which has shifted from stoking fear about "CRT" to demonising queer people, particularly in the context of young people's education.

@MarcLL

Ай бұрын

"Transgender" itself is a religion. It relies on the belief of a soul that is separate from the body and can only be perceived by one's self. This magic soul is labeled "gender identity" and is completely unfalsifiable. The believer is then obliged to ritualistically change one's body to match the "gender" of his or her own soul.

11:00 Ive never watched a full episode of leave it to beaver but the part of an episode i watched was at work (i work in elder care we let the residents watch shows from thier childhoods) The episode in question had the family driving to the lake for a picnic, the father pulls over to talk to a little neighborhood girl, invite her to join the picnic, and since all the seats were filled the father had the girl sit on his lap. Watching this all i could think is "wheres Benson and stabler when we need them"

@FiercelyGold

3 ай бұрын

Wow. That gave me chills

"Because you're not a bigot, you're a scientist!" Hahahaha im dying 😂.

@PizzaForkCooking

3 ай бұрын

The UK just banned puberty blockers after doing a systematic review of the evidence, following Sweden and Norway... But I guess they're just bigots?

@erich930

3 ай бұрын

If by "scientist" you mean you barely passed 8th grade biology

I was always told that growing up I was never allowed to like a man as another man. I was told only women liked men so in my head I must be a woman because only women can like men. Now those same people are saying that me being a woman is just as bad if not worse than me just being gay and it makes me sad that I am just not allowed to be happy all because of dumb gender rules that they drilled into my head for years and years. I've started to transition now to be happier with myself and I am feeling so much better not having to hide myself from the world like I used to when I was younger. I just wish the world was more accepting of people wanting to be happy without hurting anyone else.

@ZipplyZane

3 ай бұрын

I grew up believing that homosexuality was wrong because of (what I was taught about) the Bible. But I never thought transgenderism was wrong. No, I thought that trans women were the honest people who would go all the way. Because the Bible doesn't say anything about trans people at all. I no longer believe any of that, now that I'm more informed. But the anger at transgenderism makes no sense to me as any sort of religious thing, and thus I use that to argue it really isn't. It's more political fearmongering taking advantage of the merger of politics and American Evangelicalism.

@danielkjm

3 ай бұрын

Yo cosplay all you want, but you cant force people to be ok with that.

@ZipplyZane

3 ай бұрын

@@danielkjm Force you? No. But expect it? We very much can. You were raised better. You, like everyone else, were taught that it's okay for people to be different. No one has ever been able to force good manners or general politeness. No one has ever been able to force tolerance. But we can expect it, and call you out when Mr Rogers would be disappointed in you.

@danielkjm

3 ай бұрын

@@ZipplyZane Dont you force people to use your right roleplay gender? Dont you force places to have Unisex bathrooms? Dont you force to "teach" Kids and Teens aboth your roleplay? He honest for once.

@ZipplyZane

3 ай бұрын

@@danielkjm No. I don't. I expect you to treat people with basic respect, which includes calling them what they want to be called. I can't make you do it. Trans people are not advocating for unisex bathrooms. But, even if they were, no one is being forced to add them. And I expect that teachers should not be censored by the government. I expect that kids will be taught the actual science and facts on a topic. The government should not be able to decide--the teachers and educators should. I also expect they will be taught basic respect and compassion for their fellow students. I expect them to be taught to accept that people are different. I can't force this, but I can stand up for the Constitution and American principles. I can vote against those who would be so un-American as to ban thing they don't like. ---- So, again, no. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I'm just here defend a stranger from someone who seems to hate them for no reason, and is attacking them and blaming them for things they have no part in. All they expect is basic respect and basic compassion. Not attacking them because some angry guy in a video told you to. A minority that makes up 5-10% of the population has no power to force you to do anything. At least, not unless they are rich and can ignore the laws.

Honestly, the strict definitions of gender roles and acceptable behavior has felt like a real drag (pun intended).

'Leave it to beaver' is a film noir style show about a beaver who's a washed up private investigator. His slogan is "Need some help, leave it to beaver".

“you’re not a bigot, you’re a scientist” had me dead 😭😭

Son, I used to watch Leave it to Beaver (in syndication, I'm not that old) 11:53

@karakask5488

3 ай бұрын

Nick at Nite ftw

11:05 well, you asked for it... I was just thinking of that angry bevers cartoon from cartoon network back in the day.... But my mind right now is best described as: "a monkey, smacking two cymbals together" on account of just finishing my workweek. xD

Morals be damned. So long as all participating parties consent, do whatever you want. Nothing anyone does is anyone else's business until they're harmed. People will always do weird shit, and the shit you do is weird to someone else. Therefore, trying to control weird shit is objectively stupid.

@Mastikator

2 ай бұрын

Consent is morals. Everything else is peer pressure.

man to me people should have the freedom to do what they want . doesn't bother me personally someone being gay or changing sexes , if that makes them happy

@danielkjm

3 ай бұрын

The problem is when they want to force you to roleplay along.

@clintstewart5545

3 ай бұрын

@@danielkjm then you should have the choice to refuse , if they force someone than its fck up

Two things: 1. First I think it’s really great you defined your terms in the beginning of the video, I think a lot of these conversations struggle because we aren’t clear on the language we use. However, right after you define your terms (sex v.s. gender) you conflate them when saying “most people view GENDER as a binary, we’re born male or female…” and then go on to discuss sex variations found in nature (2:38). I think saying “most people view SEX as a binary, we’re born make or female…” would have been more consistent with your definitions. 2. I think that the conversation on bio-power and medicalization of homosexuality is very interesting. I understand there may not be a direct comparison here, however I can’t help but wonder if medicalization of transpeople is ‘solving’ gender non-comformity in the same way. Instead of being a super feminine boy or a super masculine girl (or anything in-between) and just allowing people to behave and present in whatever way makes them feel most comfortable, doctors will ‘change your sex’ with treatments like hormones so that you actually appear more gender conforming. Just a thought, I can’t help but notice the similarities. Have always enjoyed the content you guys put out, “Show Me The Meaning” was the reason I got into philosophy. Interested to hear what you think.

@bunnygirllori4156

3 ай бұрын

For your second point, I think the difference between the medicalization of homosexuality, and the medicalization of trans people, is that we trans people are usually the ones who are actually asking for hormones as a medical treatment, so that our bodies will better fit our self-image. Often we have to fight the medical system or go to entirely private practitioners just to get those treatments, rather than it being a case of doctors forcing it on us to make us more conforming. Part of the struggle for transgender rights over the years has been a struggle to get and keep access to hormone treatments and cosmetic surgeries. I don't 'pass' for AFAB and never will, I am very visibly trans and lean into that with pride pins and a more tomboyish fashion sense, but feminizing hormones have changed and improved my life in ways that aren't just making my body look more feminine. The goal of hormones for me isn't to appear more gender conforming, it's to shape my body into one that I feel comfortable in.

@genezysgoncalves5937

3 ай бұрын

This comparison doesn't make sense. Lol. Homossexuals can only lose their sexual urges entirely or keep being homossexuals. There is no medicine that changes your sexual orientation. It only acts as castration.

@WingTzu343

3 ай бұрын

@@bunnygirllori4156 For your first point, I'm honestly not convinced most people view sex as binary instead of gender. I think most people conflate gender and sex at least in some regard anyway which in turn makes it hard for many to accept non-binary gender, and I think that was the point they were getting at.

@lillywho

3 ай бұрын

> I can’t help but wonder if medicalization of transpeople is ‘solving’ gender non-comformity in the same way. Instead of being a super feminine boy or a super masculine girl (or anything in-between) and just allowing people to behave and present in whatever way makes them feel most comfortable, doctors will ‘change your sex’ with treatments like hormones so that you actually appear more gender conforming. Just a thought, I can’t help but notice the similarities. Except people can be trans and still present gender nonconforming for their _chosen_ gender, and nobody is forcing any medical measures on anyone, especially not doctors. If anything, gatekeeping is rampant and trans people who do want and often even *vitally require* various medical steps, are often denied healthcare until they've fulfilled some arbitrary goals set by the healthcare professionals.

@zacharymyers6392

3 ай бұрын

To the second point, I suspect there's a percentage (maybe in excess of 20%? maybe more?) of trans people who would feel no dysphoria if there were no such thing as gender expression. If we all wore the same clothes and participated in the same roles regardless of sex, gender might not inflame the dysphoria and prompt as many requests for reassignment. THAT BEING SAID, pure speculation and impossible to confirm as we'll probably always have gendered expression for as long as sexes exist. However, I do think the complicating adjacent topic of "non-binary" gender identity seems superfluous in a society that already tolerates androgynous (if only one-way) gender expression. To the first point, I think a lot of this genetic "sex is a spectrum" discussion ignores the fact that we categorize a person's sex based on phenotypes (gene expression), and not microscopic cellular variations. i.e. the freckle on your left forearm can be as female as it wants but if you have male physiology, your sex is considered male. Intersex topics are often brought into both non-binary and transgender discussions, but I don't think they should be. While there is some correlation between natal misgendering and transgenderism, I don't think all transgender people are intersex or necessarily need genetic anomalies to be transgender. So if your goal is to engender support for transgender issues, including intersex genetics as evidence just answers a question that wasn't asked and won't achieve that goal. To make anything understood, communicating its nuance is important, and I think gender discourse suffers greatly from not clearly qualifying "transgender, intersex, non-binary". Expectations of an all-or-nothing consensus produce predictable results ("all" and "nothing").

thank you for making this

I grew up watching Leave it to Beaver. It's kind of exactly what you think a old black and white family sitcom is.

My wife and I started watching "I Love Lucy." And there are sometimes things that cringe, and while they did try to sell "traditional" American gender roles. As we watch through, we've noticed that Lucy is constantly rebelling against her lot in life. Plus she's hilarious.

@jennydean7571

3 ай бұрын

She also got Star Trek ("it's so woke these days") off the ground, so she's cool.

I think its interesting how we think that discussing transness will make us question other binaries, but like, how many others binaries are really left to discuss? Kind of seems like we are really running out of things to talk about

@WisecrackEDU

3 ай бұрын

In the US at least, the political binary is pretty real, and dominates many aspects of society.

@sboinkthelegday3892

3 ай бұрын

Binary code is not a reductive pile of "ones there, zeroes there". That would be same as two-bit 01 with NO function, but that is EXACTLY what progressive stack means, that every pile comes in order, no overlapping your "privileged position". Adding any input would be mansplaining. You can't even use the term "binary" except by the double-think of TOTAL OPPOSITE defintions. That's why your "non-binary" is a faulty code, in every sense of the word. That was NEVER what "binary" of men and women meant, that they're the opposite SIDES of an axis. The axis is nothing, the axis on a graph is just a picture. You can only use REAL HUMAN BEINGS as your archetypical "man and woman" starting point, if you have zero ability to distinguish reality. You pretend they're not ON the graph, but just the pointers at the sides of it. And that's the only way to invent these "non-binary" people, by reversing the ACTUAL defintion of "binary" that ALREADY WAS diverse. in 1000010100100010 zeroes are all in their comfy women's locker rooms huddled together, but that is FUNCTIONAL.

@ChrisMaverick

3 ай бұрын

politics. Race. Religion. Abortion Stance, Gaza/Israel, Russia/Ukraine, Climate change, Socialism, welfare, political opponents, border policy... even in places where there are OBVIOUSLY more than two choices (like religion) Western countries ESPECIALLY America are really good at reducing it to simple binaries in order to argue about them and denigrate the Other

@felixcarrier943

3 ай бұрын

@@sboinkthelegday3892 Struggling to make sense of your comment, but if you're saying what I think you're saying, then yes, challenging the binary is about acknowledging the diversity of sexuality and gender that exists.

There is one misconception in the video. Puberty blockers are not completely reversible. Sure, puberty will resume, but it can impact the ability to reproduce, orgasm, and it can lead to lower muscle mass and bone density. Also, the evidence for puberty blockers and hormone therapy having an effect on mental health is not scientifically backed up, as the studies that showed impact lacked controls. That said, I suspect they do work, but if you want to create rigorous evidence for the right, (show them the science), then you need to do the studies with controls. This is what the Ohio governor suggested when he vetoed anti-trans bills (he’s a Republican, and he said he would defer to the doctors, though more studies need to be conducted).

@LuluTheCorgi

3 күн бұрын

Nothing you said is correct Sad

@alexandermcmiller6175

2 күн бұрын

@@LuluTheCorgiwhat exactly is wrong about what I said. Europe, where these ideas started, is going back on the gender affirming care until more data is gathered. Have you read the papers that these results come from, because I have.

Leave it to Beaver is the double prequel of the life of the beaver from Lady and the Tramp when they still lived in the same forest as Bambi. They specialize in culling trees

Why has the religious factor been left out? Seems an oversight or maybe left out on purpose...

Great video, do you post a bibliography anywhere? I went looking through the description for your sources and was sad to see nothing there.

@Shadowmanchronicles

3 ай бұрын

Its religion disguised as a scientific theory

"We must protect our children!" "How about we start by providing free meals and quality education for all children?" "No, no that"

@levibee9451

3 ай бұрын

"Yes let's save them! From gun violence." "No wait..." "And homelessness" "No, you've got it all wrong..." "And poor nutrition" "No those aren't the real threats" "Ok, what about environmental pollution?" "No, that stuff is all fine. Drag queens reading books is the real danger!"

@jennydean7571

3 ай бұрын

Or, as the narrator said, gun laws, healthcare etc.

Intro had me laughing in elder emo 😂 Excellent vid, needed this history lesson today ❤

@harrybottero6756

3 ай бұрын

Go away

0:41 never i thought i would see a drag race clip (even more an all stars 6 drag race clip) in a wisecrack video, and I'm not mad at it

The "what do you think a show called 'Leave It To Beaver' is about?" Is definitely my favorite call to action this channel has done, and might possibly be my favorite call to action of all time.

Some of the largest lawsuits ever in human history related to permanent body harm. Tens of thousands of people who were affirmed for no reason other than politics, now suing for the obvious abuse done to them. Odd to ignore..

It's nigh impossible to treat this topic without vitriol when peoples lives are at stake.

Has anyone ever thought about how much more lucrative the make up industry could be if we got men on board with it too?

@albertfralinger2711

Ай бұрын

How do you propose this could happen? Why would men see value in this?

@LuluTheCorgi

3 күн бұрын

​@@albertfralinger2711you do know that literally every successful high value man already uses makeup right? Especially foundation? Especially in Hollywood and such?

@albertfralinger2711

2 күн бұрын

@@LuluTheCorgi Do you have anything to back up this extreme claim? I've met hundreds of successful high value men and not a single one wears make up. I'm sure some actors wear make up off the job, but even then its likely not the majority.

I think it’s important to specify gender identity vs gender roles, gender roles are a social performance, not gender itself. Gender identity is biological as it’s your neurological response to societal gender roles and internal feelings and your biological sex… therefore also the distinction between sex and gender is not that sex is “biological, while gender is everything else,” but rather that sex is physiological, while gender (made up of gender identity and gender roles) has social and biological (neurological) components @WisecrackEDU

Leave it to Beaver is a Hanna Barbera cartoon where all the other animals want to get Beaver to build them stuff, but he's only good at dams, so things keep going wrong in hilarious ways.

"Leave it to Beaver" is about a gay man and a lesbian in a marriage of convenience and the lesbian is the unquestioned head of household

As a fluid bean, thanks for the representations in history, and a calm explanation with underlying sources i can refer people to. You actually covered a lot of stuff i have to explain to people on a weekly basis

It somehow only dawned on me just *now*, but if "trad wife" is a gender role, isn't it still open to use by non-cis folks? A good friend of mine growing up from my high school theatre days married dentist. They are biologically male homo-sexuals, so put it technically. Even though they are both caring, sensitive individuals (and therefore GREAT friends), the individual I grew up with has taken a more domestic role, with his teaching career (when lack of bigotry allows) more of a supplement to their household (and his sense of individual accomplishment) and his husband continues to the the "Trad Husband" by earning the big-bux as a successful dentist. So, is Trad-wife just another term for... what what called *something else* in the queer community until now?

"a tickle from hitlers moustache" cracked me up SO hard. lolol

I really love how almost all these backlashes to modern progressive politics comes from: Well, thinking about this might make me feel different so I'm not gonna do that

@mithramusic5909

3 ай бұрын

And the crazy thing is thinking about it makes you feel NEUTRAL OR BETTER. If you're comfortable and confident with the identity that matched your upbringing, then by changing your thoughts on gender, nothing changes for you. Except maybe your social life since you understand other people a little better. If not, then thinking about gender FREES you.

@kravan5063

3 ай бұрын

What an insanely dumb take

@mithramusic5909

3 ай бұрын

@@kravan5063 the input dictates the output. It's dumb because it's realistic, and reality is dumb right now

@kravan5063

2 ай бұрын

@@mithramusic5909 No it's dumb because its overly simplistic and a complete misrepresentation of people who oppose gender theory. The OP clearly doesn't understand or cares to understand oppositions reasoning for being against it.

I've never felt gender, although I have always seen people acting it out. They play certain characteristic up or down to fit in and seem so miserable for it. Unfortunately I feel like the only way I identify as a woman is in the ways I've felt pain, either through menses, birth, or violence against me. But pain isn't inherent to feminine or masculine identity, so even then, it's only the socially constructed ideas about the pain that I experience. It's always been so obvious that the gender binary is a farce to divide and control people, so the back lash to non conformity makes sense (from the pov of the status quo). Men and women are only different because we act like they are. I wish I'd known about all those philosophers growing up, then I wouldn't have felt so disconnected. I appreciate this video so much. Thank you wise crack.

I think this and so many other problems in society come from people's tendency to not anchor their views in evidence, but instead go with intuitions or gut feelings... even about things that impact other people's lives

Would be interested in your take of how culture war distracts us to the real issues that people in power use to oppres society.

Yeah actually a lot of jobs in the 50's were just as humdrum and boring as being a housewife, or worse,if repetitive factory work . But boring workplaces run on the social interaction in those places, which you could not get at home alone in a 50's nuclear family without community in the neighborhood.

it would have been nice if at least one sentence was included to explain why autogynophilia is complete and utter rubbish. I feel like that should be included any time that ridiculous "hypothesis" is mentioned.

@CyberChrist

Ай бұрын

It's the Voldemort in the room.

I'm a GenX guy and this really helped me to understand the current views on gender so much better. I've always tried to be supportive, but I have to confess that I really didn't understand gender and just wanted to be kind. Now I feel like I can discuss the topic from an informed point of view. It really was enlightening and was presented well. In fact I just linked here from a Twitter (I WILL NEVER CALL IT X!!!) post on gender. I hope more people my age will watch this. Thanks for such a great presentation!

@greatestaxolotl4933

2 ай бұрын

call me bigoted but im forever deadnaming twitter

Are we so far beyond that people nowadays have never seen Leave It to Beaver on TV Land? (Or more like their parents never forced them to sit through it?)

I’m pretty sure other cultures than just Europeans had gender roles. People realize there have been plenty of other oppressive societies prior to renaissance/enlightenment age exploration right?

@jennydean7571

3 ай бұрын

You missed the part about other cultures recognising non-binary identities?

Greeting fellow Wisefam fans!! Let’s be quite civil and amicable yeah?

Knee surgery recovery HURTS, it might or might not hurt more than before, and it takes forever to get back on your feet and have a normal or normalish mobility again.

"Deviated Septum" would be an awesome band name.

The Human Biodiversity Institute didn't come up with the term "autogynephilia", it was coined by Ray Blanchard in the 80s; before the institute was formed in the late 90s. Ray Blanchard is however associated with the institute and their theories were repopularised in the 2003 book 'The Man Who Would Be Queen' which was supported by many members of th Human Biodiversity Institute.

@jennydean7571

3 ай бұрын

I came here to say this. Ray Blanchard's hypothesis was debunked by his own profession. The only people who perpetuate it are transphobes.

It's the second lavender scare, baby!

@levibee9451

3 ай бұрын

I read this in Abigail Thorn's voice

One of the interesting things about being trans is watching how my doctors have documented my sex (not gender) through the years. Started female, then coded as intersex due to the effects of testosterone and surgery, then male (post-bottom surgery, I’m effectively more male than anything else from a doctor’s point of view). (They still have the trans stuff in the chart)

@Eagle3302PL

3 ай бұрын

Because no matter how much you modify yourself you still have fundamentally female genetics and that comes with predispositions to certain forms of disease or cancer. Doctors need to keep track of that stuff.

@danielkjm

3 ай бұрын

Bros really trying to force their cosplay/roleplay to doctors...

@levibee9451

3 ай бұрын

​@@Eagle3302PLhealthcare professional here. Very few disease factors are as affected by chromosomal sex as they are by things like endocrinological levels. Someone with a testosterone-dominant body, regardless of how they got that way, will be evaluated against male reference ranges for nearly all lab tests and such. Of course an accurate medical history is always important when investigating new symptoms but chromosomal sex is rarely the biggest factor and in fact many people go through life without ever actually having their chromosomes tested so they don't even know if the sex they were assigned at birth corresponds to what one might assume based on karyotyping.

@tankerbruja

3 ай бұрын

@@danielkjm bro really being a transphobe after wisecrack JUST SAID, 'hey don't do that in the comments'

@LuluTheCorgi

3 күн бұрын

​@@Eagle3302PLexcept that's false Breast cancer risk is determined by your exposure to estrogen, not your genetics, same with other cancers related to testosterone levels

I actually loved Leave it to Beaver as a kid. Watched it a lot with my dad. So imagine my shock when I was snooping through my parents’ closet in like 1995 or something and saw a VHS labeled “Leave it to Beaver” and popped that bad boy in. It wasn’t Leave it to Beaver, suffice it to say.

Leave to beaver sounds like a puppet show where a family asks a beaver regarding issues like ALF

one of my best friends is a trans man and i've always supported him. I'm cis male and i just wish people would let people be themselves.

@CyberChrist

Ай бұрын

Trans people are the ones not letting themselves be themselves. Nobody would care if they didn't demand everyone to play along with them, or else...

I agree with some parts of this vid, yet other parts are wildly cherry picked. As someone who is mega straight but wears makeup and "feminine" clothing, I see no concept of intrinsic genderdness, we have bowie and Depp after all

@LuluTheCorgi

3 күн бұрын

Yeah that's because you are cis lol That's his point, you still feel like a guy even in feminine clothing

Leave it to Beaver is a dark, gritty, horror comedy from the 80s in the tromaverse. A bus full of cheerleaders crash into a toxic waste spill between a forested river bed and train tracks in New Jersey. The cheerleaders mutate into trash talking, flip flop wearing, human/beaver hybrid environmental justice warriors. The main antagonist is Sleeze Inc. and CEO Mr. Cleaver, whose tag line throughout the movie is, "Damn, those Beavers!"

Interesting video, not really sure what to comment about. I did watch two episodes of "Leave it to Beaver" going up. I truly don't remember much of the setup aside from it was an American family and in black and white film.

Crazy how kids are the most oppressed class in humanity

I think that the inherent element of the interpersonal in gender is what is at the root of such provocations. Sexual and familial intimacy are both very high stakes for all parties, and hierarchical control serves to displace risk onto inferiors: the security (absence of risk from hazard) of the superior is more important than the safety (absence of realization of hazard) of the inferior. We see this across the different relational bionaries. Children's actual needs are subordinated to the needs of "the family" as defined by the needs of the parent, same with women's needs being subordinate to men, and queers' being subordinate to straights'. It's worth noting that the status quo's fear of a "hostile takeover" of the current order by the underclass demonstrates no comprehension of the paradigm shift they're reacting against. While they might feel threatened by the destabilizing binary, they can't actually see that the binary itself isn't necessary. The only possible reason they can think of that someone would destable the binary is to seize the superior position. Non-hierarchy is quite literally unthinkable to the superior, and that is precisely why they hate it so much.

@felixcarrier943

3 ай бұрын

This is well said imo. You see this in a few different discourses as well. For instance, in a discussion regarding what's happening in Gaza, the person I was talking to was exasperated by the notion of queer people opposing the Israeli state in its current operations. His exasperation was premised on the idea that, if they were openly queer in Gaza, they would likely be mistreated. So it makes sense that they'd support the Israeli state in its actions-up to and including human rights violations-right? I tried suggesting that maybe their opposition was grounded in a deeper concern and not in making sure that the "right" people suffer, but that didn't seem to register. We apparently must choose only between rivalrous authoritarian systems, according to whichever best serves our interests, and not strike forward a path beyond them.

@f.n.8540

3 ай бұрын

there is no such thing as a world with no hiearchy

@FigureOnAStick

3 ай бұрын

@@f.n.8540 Hey look, it's one of those guys I was talking about ☝️

@f.n.8540

3 ай бұрын

@@FigureOnAStick people think it cause its right lol a world without hiearchy is at best metastable

@FigureOnAStick

3 ай бұрын

@@f.n.8540 ...yes, the metastability is the point

This is the most concise I’ve heard the concepts around gender. I’m going to save this video to play around a few people I’ve unsuccessfully debated these same ideas and see what buzzwords they try to throw around after. Not much room for thoughtlessness in your argument. Very well done

Leave it to Beaver is an early 2000s post-apocalyptic slasher romcom starring Freddy Prince Jr. and Shannon Elizabeth. The main characters are mauled by an extinct prehistoric Beaver and die in the first three minutes. The remaining 98 minutes of its runtime is a commercial for shave gel. Included with Prime with ads for Prime

"Fun guys have thousands of sexes" - Michael

16:04 "If anyone can be a woman, then no one is a woman." I had to pause and figure out why this struck me as both inherently incorrect and a reasonable assumption an underinformed person might make at the same time, and I came to the conclusion that it is the premise that is flawed. (As it usually is. Question your premises, people!) What does it mean to "be a woman"? I'll wager that if you ask a dozen people, you will get wildly different, potentially conflicting answers. There is and can be no universally agreed-upon consensus on what "being a woman" is or means, therefore arguing about it is pointless. Everyone is going to have a different perspective, some will even have an extreme perspective. (Bonus skippable anecdote) I remember as a child, being accused of being and/or acting "mannish" (primarily by my female cousins). I found this to be initially perplexing and eventually infuriating because I did not know what this meant. Was this supposed to be an insult or just an observation? Should I correct my behavior? If so, how? By the time I realized I couldn't glean the meaning on my own, I found that none of my (again, mostly female) relatives could or would explain what "being mannish" meant (and I wasn't about to potentially embarrass myself by asking a stranger). Sometimes I got a conspiratorial chuckle instead of an answer and to this day, I don't know what anyone was talking about back then, especially considering that many of the kids I went to school with seemed to think my behavior /mannerisms leaned heavily towards the feminine (this is how I found out what "switching" when one walks is). My ultimate conclusions are: a) Sometimes you don't have to be specific for an insult to have an impact. b) My cousins often talk out of their asses, neither meaning what they say, nor knowing what they mean. c) You don't have to be queer for gender-based harassment to happen to you.

@CyberChrist

Ай бұрын

People whose definition isn't based on "female adult human" is delusional, though.

I don't know that I understand what gender identity is at a personal level as in "feeling like" "or identifying as" a man or a woman as it's not something I've ever thought about on my own. What I do know is that, anecdotally, my experiences with transphobia have been deeply rooted in homophobia. For example, about a decade ago, I was out with a group of friends when we had to prevent a literal hate crime from a group of guys who were in incensed to the point of violence when they learned they had been dancing and flirting with trans women. Fortunately no physical violence came of it that night, but deluge of literally homophobic statements ("They're trying to turn us into f-----s!") that came out of those guys was intense. None of us were particularly what I've might call progressive at that point, but the encounter was eye-opening and certainly may have had a hand in us becoming more progressive over time. Experiencing the threat of violence queer folks face, even by proxy as we did that night, was formative to say the least. I now have a lot of trans friends in other circles (mostly online), and still don't know that I "get" it, but what I do get is the blowback they get for being different. I don't know why people feel the need to be involved in how other people's lives, but I do think it comes down to an internal fear that they will be "converted" somehow - literal phobia, not just hate. Yoda was right - fear does ultimately lead to hate, but what the fuck are y'all so afraid of?

@CorwinFound

3 ай бұрын

I like what your are saying. An important aspect of progressivism or you know, being a decent person, is accepting that you don't need to understand. I'm a white trans guy. I will never really understand the challenges that people of colour face. And that's okay. I don't need to understand the specific experiences to know that systemic racism happens, that it's wrong, and that I should do whatever I can to help deconstruct those systems. Most cis people will never get being trans. And I don't fault them for that. But lack of understanding is never an excuse to harm others or impress your beliefs on my basic rights. It would be like if I heard people speaking a language I don't understand and then trying to create laws saying that language isn't a "real" language and criminalizing speaking that language at all.

@danielkjm

3 ай бұрын

Cult or Roleplay?

What is the video that black of white clip is from around 25:00 in?

@kmanley29687

3 ай бұрын

It's called "The Trouble With Women," from around 1950. Rifftrax did a take on it (and quite a few of the old shorts that I've seen clips on here from lately) that is fantastic!

"... and then say 'No!'--and go inside--and take a bath". Wise words 😌 I live in the Southeast and it's actually crazy how much gender is socially regulated by religious and conservative culture itself. Even as a young adult my mom had my sister change the bag she put my present in because it looked effeminate and she didn't want to "confuse" me. As a 24-year-old adult, my parents told me to change the floral shirt I was wearing to my sister's wedding rehearsal as if they still have the right to regulate how their offspring present themselves. It's laughably petty how seriously people take this gender performance. I get repeated passive aggression for things that I wear and even my apparently effeminate mannerisms. I hardly have any interest in defining my gender for others--i simply dress and act how I like--but some family members seem to think I am "confused" and need nudges toward more pure masculinity, whatever that is. It's funny to see people like my parents feel insecure for me and project that onto me when I'm perfectly comfortable with my sex and gender, even if I don't strive after some Western Christian Platonic gender form (actually I don't pursue any form for gender because I don't think there are ideal forms)

15:11 I know I'll never be as cool as Abby Thorne. We all know we can't be as cool as Abby Thorne.