Im a college professor and I am fine with this. We have trades and need workers in those fields. University isn't for everyone. A plumber makes more than I do with my doctorate. I just don't have a mind for plumbing. I think folks should go into fields that they are passionate about.

@semiotik

2 ай бұрын

Nobody is passionate about plumbing. Telling people to follow their passions creates an endless supply of exploitable adjuncts who serve you but will never get tenure. I suspect you're part of the problem.

@polydex108

2 ай бұрын

Damn ​@@semiotik. Little harsh, but you are probably right about following passion.

@BabyBang17datruth

2 ай бұрын

At the end of day, people look at job security. People can have passions but it doesn’t necessarily lead to financial stability.

@maxx_thedragondominator

2 ай бұрын

@@semiotikspeak for yourself. A lot of people find passion in plumbing and fixing problems. But like all manual labor jobs, they do take a toll on your body.

Millennial here with a Master's degree, and process improvement & business analytics certifications, getting ZERO interest from employers despite applying for jobs for MONTHS (one serious interview that I didn't get to round 2, ghosted a few times; ZERO job offers). Go for trade certifications & apprenticeships, because trying to break through in the white collar side is getting depressing.

@MrTweej

2 ай бұрын

Last time I changed jobs as a diesel mechanic I sent out 6 resumes on a Wednesday morning, had my first interview at 1 pm Wednesday afternoon, got my first of 3 job offers the following Monday. 2 weeks later I started my new job.

@piccalillipit9211

2 ай бұрын

@@MrTweej 1988 I applied for two jobs as an 18-year-old - my first job. 1) commission only telesales for a newspaper 2) trainee Diesel mechanic on tractors I got both jobs and took the telesales one. In 1988 this was definitely the right decision - but I would advise any kid today to make the other choice. Its going to be a very long time before diesels are phased out "Diesel fuel has a 11.84Kwh per litre" its just physics.

Our 48 year old daughter is a schoolteacher (8 to 10 year olds). She has just completed a retraining course to become an electrician. This is not common in France at the moment, but it is not unusual. I hope she succeeds and will be happy in this transition.

Became a elevator mechanic after the military.... best decision ever!!

@D12345

2 ай бұрын

Good trade moneywise.

I'm a pastry chef, which is considered a trade, but it wasn't until I had 10 years under my belt that my pay went up in any meaningful way.

@rolfkrajewski4975

2 ай бұрын

Well, it's not exactly an industry that's worth billions

@Horticarter41

2 ай бұрын

@@rolfkrajewski4975lol, I can't breathe. Dude, I work in a private community with 3 restaurants and 2 ball rooms where the last condo sold for 3.5 million dollars and the monthly costs can be upwards of 60k. The food service industry is worth billions upon billions. The reason it takes time to work up to a good wage is there are mostly undermanagement positions available and very few lead positions per establishment. And haute cuisine is not something available in rural areas unless it is a tourist destination or spa cuisine. The prevalence of culinary schools in the lower 48 spiked in the early 2000s which flooded the market with graduates all clamoring for an already sparse number of jobs.

@Horticarter41

2 ай бұрын

@@rolfkrajewski4975 though it occurs to me you may have been being facetious and if so, Bravo 👏

These jobs offer respect, good pay, and one can work up to their own business. And......no colossal debt.

I'm an electrician. I dropped out of school in eighth grade. I'm a felon and inspent my highschool years partying. I make about $100k a year. With overtime, i can hit $150k easy. When i want to move to a new city, i just show up with whatever money i uave on hand and whatever fits in my vehicle. Did that so many times. I rent a hotel for a month and jo job hunting. By the time that hotel rental is up, i always have a fulltime job and a lease on an apartment. Within six months, i have a fully furnished apartment. Everybody told me i was waisting my life and i wouldnt be shit in life. Those same people have a mountain of student loan debt and make about $30k less than me a year. One of em was working at a gas station I went to and he looked super embarrassed.

A friend explained why she left an art museum career to work on aircraft construction and maintenance because the dirt washed off at the end of the day!

My warehouse job left me in a wheelchair

@ribbrascal1065

2 ай бұрын

What were the OSHA violations that led to your injury?

@sswwooppee

2 ай бұрын

Warehouse work isn’t trade work, but I’m still sorry that happened to you.

I became a RN after years as a teacher. Loved changing my careers and they can't get rid of you. I'm a boomer and owed lots of money. But I could pay for Nursing school as I went. Didn't owe money. I was 43 when I became a RN. I just retired out of Nursing at 70

@rolfkrajewski4975

2 ай бұрын

Nursing isn't a trade

@rlabzsc

2 ай бұрын

It can be done in a Community College in 2 to 3 years. It was considered a Trade in the early 70's when I started college. Granted it has a 4 year degree, which I have. But I could work as a RN after receiving an ADN with the same amount of base rate pay as my BSN counterpart. Once I received my BSN, I received a few dollars more per hour. It's a very flexible job. My daughter has her Masters in Nursing Education.

These jobs will require a highly educated work force strong computer skills , we need young people in the trade industry I wanna retire

I'am a 34yo concrete finisher and I am one of the youngest guys on the crew. It's nice to see that the younger generation is moving towards skill trades! But be weary, there are a ton of racist far right people in the trades, and a bunch of alpha males.. That's the biggest issue that I deal with. Past that I love my job

@zachaddington5264

2 ай бұрын

Trump supporters work those jobs blue collar

@ribbrascal1065

2 ай бұрын

What racist things do they say?

@sswwooppee

2 ай бұрын

There’s no shortage of racists, sexists and douchebags in offices and boardrooms either.

@Indrid__Cold

2 ай бұрын

Ah, the "asshole factor" is well known. It haunts every field where seniority and nepotism exist.

Union apprenticeship is definitely the way to go.

"Mainstream media 5 years from now* Breaking: America faces a shortage of Doctors.

@johnjo516

2 ай бұрын

Already a shortage …Doctors are getting squeezed on all sides …insurance rates go up and up forever…private equity firms running hospitals …it’s insane …American healthcare is a mess and is getting worse

@Indrid__Cold

2 ай бұрын

AI is going to satisfy the need for GP and radiology positions. Medicine is the field that is ripe for any automation you can throw at it. Literally TONS of available investment capital.

Don't forget that the previous generation got scammed with the promise that a college degree is a guaranteed path into the middle only to end up in massive debt and barely earning enough to stay above water so watching that happen surely has an effect

As a Quality Inspector, I'm glad about this, the trades markets need more, machinests, welders, etc

I'm doing this at 53. Should've done it 30 years ago.

@theheadmessage2934

2 ай бұрын

Congrats bro I’m proud of you👍

Blindly following the trend is the worst thing you can do. Yes, University is not for everyone but trade school is not for everyone either, not everyone likes to get their hands dirty. University and trade school are not the only options available, if you are a risk taker you can start a small business. Know your comfort level, strengths and weaknesses and choose your career path accordingly. Some people learn about their comfort level, strengths and weaknesses early in their life while others learn about it after making a few mistakes.

College has become not only too expensive but no longer is it seen as a guaranteed success, NOR is it considered *required* as much as it was 10 years ago. 10 years ago, and in some polices today, you couldn't even get an interview without a BA or above. That's not necessary anymore, so why would you take on 100k in debt if you didn't need to?

Yes! I am a woman who has been a construction project manager for a long time. There is a desperate need for kids going into the trades. Especially plumbers! All the guys I work with are close to retiring and there aren't enough people replacing them. Carpenters are making 75 an hour, plumbers and electricians 125+. Those hourly rates are going to go up as demand outpaces workers. My 16 year old brother is in trade school. The demand is so overwhelming the kids in his school are building another school! And every other week he does a coop and is making 500 bucks a week...in high school. It's wonderful :)

@gab1172

2 ай бұрын

Cool

@ismaelamaro7728

2 ай бұрын

When you say 125/hr, is that on the check, or all benefits included?

@Indrid__Cold

2 ай бұрын

The trades take a very real toll on the body, and there is always the risk of a disabling accident.

@ismaelamaro7728

2 ай бұрын

@@Indrid__Cold Life itself takes a toll on the body. Office drones are hardly the paragons of health, and there's something to be said for a career that keeps you physically active and incentivizes fitness.

I know from experience that most of these trades are brutal work that requires you to be very strong and physically fit, and food and supplements are expensive. The jobs offered are often not steady 40 hr full time jobs, they try to make you work as a contractor or pay you by commission. Definitely do lots of research before thinking about doing this,

@teddybruscie

2 ай бұрын

Yea there's a lot of misleading information about the trades. They don't pay well in the first couple years generally. It takes a while to be self sufficient.

@roninbushito

2 ай бұрын

Yup lots of misleading info first of all u gotta cut it to be a good worker unions are picky they want the best workers, if your a shitty worker you won’t last. In other words you gotta really love the trades. Also the pay is low pre journeymen phase. It’s hard on the body. Too much politics in unions also. I work in tech making triple income

@Indrid__Cold

2 ай бұрын

Safety is another issue in and of itself. Not at all uncommon to meet a guy or gal missing an eye, scars from a serious burn, or a career changing amputation. Robotics will take care of some of this, but there's always a bastard Forman who wants you to "just get over there right now and give it a quick fix!"

Universities/Colleges cost a arm and leg. Can't blame them

The trades rule,without the skilled workers we’d have nothing!!!

It worked for me . I started as an apprentice at 18 ,had a 35 year career, and was able to retire at 53 with full pension as a union electrician working for the government

@Zeegoner

2 ай бұрын

What are you packin?

@JAYY_JAYY

2 ай бұрын

I am union electrician and have never heard of a Government agency where you can retire at 53 ?

@jgreat8582

2 ай бұрын

@JAYY_JAYY try working for the City they gave me matching funds with pension contributions and social security and full medical and dental for life. I was under a old plan where you work 5 years and age 50. These programs are now time and age have to equal 85 now

The college industry is not going to be cool with this trend.

*TOTAL SUPPORT FOR GEN Z* doing this - in 2002 I was at a loose end so I started up as an "Odd Job Man" weeding gardens, painting fences, cleaning gutters, mending gates, etc It was one of the most enjoyable things I have ever done - it paid £20 an hour which is about $55 today US. Different job, different locations every day. The mistake I made was turning it into a "proper job" by making it a construction company for garden buildings - 2008 crash wiped that out instantly.

South Park talked about this too. When voice assitants made people less knowledgeable about fixing things, all the skilled workers got rich and demanded more money. This is a real shift.

@champsammy13

2 ай бұрын

South Park is always ahead of the curve.

@D12345

2 ай бұрын

Except it usually isn't the skilled worker that is rich ( baring limited positions) its the person that runs the company that the skilled worker works at that is rich.

@TheCloveart

2 ай бұрын

@@D12345 That can be true. But if that is the case, some of these workers can start their own businesses. Where they are the sole employee or they hire a few people and the cycle starts over again. It makes sense. I was actually jealous of some of my high school classmates who went into learning trades and bought homes and started families in their mid to late 20s. It makes sense. It’s easy to save and spend more without six figures of debt holding you back.

This is good news, I am a plumber and see there’s a great need of qualified crews in this and other construction area,

@twelvenation6393

2 ай бұрын

Trade jobs are a joke, they wanna pay me $14 an hour to use nail guns, grinders, drills, saws, lofty heavy stuff, breathing In chemical lol and they want you to buy and drive your own vehicle out to who knows where. It’s a joke. The only person making money is the overweight owner that has no business owning a business

I worked at UCLA Extension a few years ago, which has the distinction of being the first college program to offer online credentials and courses, back in 1998, and extension courses in general for over 100 years. We saw this writing on the wall a decade ago. Why spend money on a degree in person when it's far more economical to do a trade and then add in the credentials or degrees that you might require later, online. The days of brick and stone colleges are quickly coming to an end.

@brianburgess3231

2 ай бұрын

exactly .. be sure to mix in some arts courses .. they train you how to think as opposed to what to think

@sidadams7394

2 ай бұрын

Extension schools are a scam. People get Extension degrees from schools such as Harvard then work abroad and since someone outside the US wouldn't know Harvard extension isn't the same thing as a regular Harvard degree, this person got promoted and hired fast due in an elite Big 4 multinational consultancy/professional services firm to the name on the resume, even over a full Harvard alum lol. this REALLY happens. Perception and Optics are the TRUE reality sadly sometimes.

Every time a college goes bankrupt, an angel grows its wings

I say this is a win win. We have a shortage of skilled, hands-on workers. That's part of why the housing crisis is a thing. And these kids get a well paying job without student loan debt. On average, college-educated workers are gonna make more, and we need doctors, scientists, engineers, and similar professions. But college isn't for everyone. We need a system like the German system, which puts "A" students on a college track by high school and "C" students on a trades track by high school.

@sswwooppee

2 ай бұрын

The German system can’t work in the USA which is mercilessly exploitative of workers. The regulatory state in Germany is very strong which even Democrats in the US would fight to the death.

@ismaelamaro7728

2 ай бұрын

Why assume that academically gifted people won't or shouldn't enter the trades? I was a great student but felt drawn to the trades and don't regret it.

@vanyac6448

Ай бұрын

@@ismaelamaro7728 It's not so much that academically gifted people won't or shouldn't enter trades, it's that strong academic performance is prerequisite for an academic track. If you're not academically gifted, you'll either have to work really hard to get the necessary grades or drop the academic track.

Housing market being what it is, Millennials are more likely to build their own house than buy one. Gte a bunch of friends in college: a carpenter, an electrician, a plumber, and an architect, and you're good to go. (Maybe a stonemason, and or landscaper).

A lot of art schools are over 150k in tuition....talk about a no win situation.

But on the other hand this could be a good thing, because it will eventually force Universities to change their policies and offer the trades as apart of their curriculum as well. I’m pretty sure they will incorporate this method also..

@shaunmc013

2 ай бұрын

@@P.90.603 not just the work environment but in the world in general. I think the mistake we’re making is constantly tying college to a job. That’s not the original purpose of college.

@shaunmc013

2 ай бұрын

@@P.90.603 got you - well internships, apprenticeships, colleges could aid in creating more paid research and apprenticeships. Teachers and Advisors could be resourceful, admission counselors also. But I think they kind of stick the concept of education, because they’re not employment recruiters. For them, I think talking about how you can land jobs from getting an education with them, is just marketing for their school, honestly bro.

I'm an instructor for an IBEW (union) electrical apprenticeship and it's just great for these young people. Great benefits. Great retirement. No student debt work with your mind and your hands and make really good money compared to your peers. Some of my students finish at 23 and they're making 100K a year and that's really good for here in Kentucky.

A generation of Americans with practical skills is nothing but positive. These young people will be in a position to go to college without assuming life changing debt should they want later.

Trades often require a lot of travel and time away from home.

@ismaelamaro7728

2 ай бұрын

Not always true. If you're outside a major city, maybe, and depends on if you're doing new construction or not. If service, then you're usually pretty local.

I'm sick and tired of other people telling young adults which path in life they should take. The way I look at it, if you're 18 do whatever makes you happy or satisfied in life as long as it's legal. College, trade school, military, advance in your current job, start your own business etc. Cool! Just do you! Like why does it matter to other people what YOU do with your own life? You're an adult. Make your own decisions and nevermind what other people say or do and yes that includes your own parents. Everyone carves their own path in life. The only thing that matters is if what you're doing makes you happy and if you make good money doing it then all the better

People who are in the business of building homes will never be out of work no matter what happens with AI

@xethier

2 ай бұрын

3d printing and some robotics and you could reduce that workforce considerably. No we aren't there yet... but how much longer will that be? Think something like that is going to reduce the cost of homes? I certainly don't... not after all the examples of the last 40 years.

@twelvenation6393

2 ай бұрын

Lol who cares when the business owner pays you trash. Just quit a construction job putting up walls. Using nail guns, grinders, saws, drills, breathing In chemicals, for $14 an hour lol driving anywhere from 30-1 hour. These jobs are a joke

@twelvenation6393

2 ай бұрын

These terrible jobs are going nowhere! There I fixed it

Getting a college degree is not an expectation. That is a projection. Yes, more Gen Z are going into trades...because it is where the money is, and where job security its. THAT is why.

They need to make sure they get good short term/long term disability policies in case their bodies fail them.

There is absolutely satisfaction in doing building trades. You can stand back and say - I sided that old looking house and it looks Brand New .

5 years from now, the cost of a trade school will be tripple.

The price of college is probably a large part of the reason. Over here the government is trying to encourage people to consider these kind of jobs. Only a few days ago I read an article that stated that a child of doctors will hardly ever consider becoming a carpenter or such. Personally I have several different level degrees in social jobs, and my eldest daughter is now studying for speech therapist. No idea whether that had an effect.

Supposedly, four areas of employment will always be in demand. 1) Food Service (restaurants and groceries) because people will always need to eat. 2) Law enforcement because there will always be crime. 3) Healthcare because people will always get sick or injured, and 4) Education (at least K-8 because people will always need to be able to read, write, and calculate at functional levels. AI could make today's lucrative fields like writing, singing, acting, less lucrative (or at least require fewer people to do them).

They're gonna have a rude awakening when they realize what a toxic work environment a lot of trades are, especially welding, and the high rates of bodily injuries and alcoholism and drug use. There's a reason why the trades have shortages and personally I don't think this uptick in admission is gonna last long once word about the struggle gets out on places like tiktok.

@jgbcreations9368

2 ай бұрын

That's not in every case though. Plus every job field has vices associated with it. Trades aren't any different.

@rolfkrajewski4975

2 ай бұрын

@jgbcreations9368 Well, I guess they're gonna find out that blue collar work culture is VASTLY different than white collar, ESPECIALLY for women. Lots of crude lockeroom talk that would get you fired or sent to HR in an office job in a heartbeat.

@ribbrascal1065

2 ай бұрын

Okay beta /in welding school

@orlock20

2 ай бұрын

Toxic work environments are found everywhere. All my schools and different jobs were toxic.

Boomers will still call us lazy though when we put in 80 hours 😒

This is good. As a Millenial I hope they turn it around. These Gen Z kids doing this might actually end up resetting the labor market. Us Millenials all went white collar and got our Bachelors and Masters Degrees. Which is cool, not gonna lie. I’m in a pretty secure white collar profession. But I’ve seen how lack of skilled labor has negatively affected everything. With young Gen Z kids choosing these careers, they are gonna require more pay, the demographics of manual labor will shift to American va Foreign, and let’s be honest. The customer service when we need something fixed is gonna be better. I’m tired of calling a trade company and some grumpy 60 yr old shows up. I hope more Gen Z’ers and even the younger Millenials get more into skilled labor. Ironically, my son who’s 12 told me today that he heard plumbers make a lot of money. I told him they do, and if he wanted to that instead of college I’d support that. Ana made a good point about ppl loving their AC’s. These blue collar (skilled trade) folks are gonna make a killing over the next 2-3 decades, then the tide will slowly shift and in about 60 years college will be the in thing again. But trades are honestly, pending some extremely bad luck as close to a sure thing as a person can get. Shout out to Gen Z man 4 real.

I installed windows and siding and never went without work .

This video is not accurate, people want to get out of the skilled trades because of low pay and lack of work life balance

@MattBuild4

2 ай бұрын

What? What skilled trade today is low pay compared to national average?

@jackeagleeye3453

2 ай бұрын

@@MattBuild4 in comparison to white collar jobs, almost all of them, and with blue collar jobs you get way more wear on your body and less of a work life balance

@MattBuild4

2 ай бұрын

@@jackeagleeye3453 Oh Im well aware, but you arent making low pay for it.

@jackeagleeye3453

2 ай бұрын

@@MattBuild4 the pay isn't necessarily low but it's not better than a lot of white collar jobs

@MattBuild4

2 ай бұрын

@@jackeagleeye3453 Fair, but its not lower than the average pay in the US

The youth of today are looking for meaningful jobs, jobs that aren't just bullshit jobs, jobs that contribute to society, good on them 👏

@thewandererIRL

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. unlike those Nurses and Doctors, Physicists, Engineers, Virologists, Scientists, or Teachers who contribute absolutely nothing to society.

Some will be fine, some will regret it. Took me 20 years to realize the only way to make any resl money in the trades is to own the company. Good luck young people.

@al-khwarizmi769

2 ай бұрын

Regrets happen for most degrees, too.

@Joy-zh9fq

2 ай бұрын

This is exactly why I left my trade as a millennial. I worked hard and was extremely underpaid. I went back to school for my bachelors and now make $93K a year, but it’s still not enough to raise children. Constantly feel like I’m on to a new opportunity to try and make more money but it’s never enough

@jonbeltrami6616

2 ай бұрын

@@Joy-zh9fq life crushed me into it being enough. I have kids, we go on a couple vacations a year, and they have what they need. Good enough for now. Oldest got a college scholarship, whew!!!! Next 3???? Who knows.

@brentharrington9235

2 ай бұрын

@@Joy-zh9fq If 90k isn't enough to have kids, 900k won't be either.

Both my boys had to postpone their careers due to COVID and all the other reasons your mention, Also, here in Australia, tradies earn more money than traditional careers and are in incredibly high demand

We went so hard towards University / College that we now have a massive deficit in trades personnel. A lot of opportunities out there right now if you are willing to work hard. Plus you start off with zero debt and actually start making money.

@D12345

2 ай бұрын

Trade schools cost money? Maybe you start off with zero debt if you able to pay thosands off hand or qualify for max financial aid. Many people will have some debt less than a top uni though. Plus dont know if certs and room and board qualify through financial aid.

My friend graduated college with a business degree. He went into construction just as a way to make money while he was looking for a job. Eight years later he’s now a construction superintendent with a carpentry license. He says it’s an incredibly physically demanding and exhausting job, but the pay is good enough and now he’s basically his own boss. In his opinion the main reason people don’t take these jobs is because as a society we’ve been conditioned to see them as inferior, not to mention just how physically demanding they are. But by his own estimates in 10 years there will be so few construction workers and even few with specific licenses that soon they’ll be able to charge their clients whatever they want because there just won’t be any other options.

@nurlindafsihotang49

2 ай бұрын

Except AI+ automation

@thewandererIRL

2 ай бұрын

At the end of the day, the winners are the ones who look at job security over pay or prestige. Find something you like that will likely still be around in 30+ years.

As a former career counselor… youth need to know that not all trades are blue collar Any job training program outside of traditional college is technically a “trade” That includes court reporting, federal court reporters make excellent income. Also Tech bootcamps are exploding

Careful with this trend....since vocational schools or community college are cheap, requires less time in schooling, low bar to entry, I see trades getting easily flooded and driving down wages REALLY FAST. Then there are those who will say to join a trade union, well good luck with that too as these trade unions are rare and hard to get into. People with marketable college degrees will be fine and will likely get higher salaries as they face less competition.

@MrDisgruntledGamer1

2 ай бұрын

Wrong again, companies are engaging in frequent layoffs and even filing fake job offers because they want to employ less and less people. Add the fact that tons of company mergers have been occurring which cause massive layoffs that even high degrees are pretty hard to get jobs with people looking for a year or two for a job after hundreds of resumes. Competition even for white collar jobs has become as fierce as ever.

Im a mechanical engineer who left the desk and went into a very niche trade. I make a little more and am a lot more happy.

As a millenial who went into trades and say at least 20 of his classmaters - classes of 30 - not able to find any work. I hope they have a better outcome then I did. Trades isn't a uniform thing. What's popular one decade may be dead the next, and expect every trade school to lie to you every day about what's popular and gaslight you massively. Now working in automotive and kicking myself for not going into tech.

@mojrimibnharb4584

2 ай бұрын

Which trade?

@jojomakes

2 ай бұрын

Never too late for a career change unless ur only a few years away from retirement

@necessities-1235

2 ай бұрын

You will only find work if you want it. There is always a company that needs help work which is just training for you. Went into trade school 3 years ago and it changed my life around. I’m a field service specialist for HVAC/Refrigeration and cooking equipment for an amazing company it’s possible fellas!!!!

@johndor7793

2 ай бұрын

Whats so bad about automotive exactly?

@necessities-1235

2 ай бұрын

@@johndor7793nothing it’s a great trade

Even with a college degree, it's not about WHAT you know that lands you a job but WHO you know. With trade school certification, whether you're an electrician, plumber, HVAC worker, etc....they always need jobs.

I did construction work for 18 years and I can tell you right now, that line of work, especially here in Oklahoma, is heavily occupied by migrant workers. They work long hours for pennies on the dollar. Unless you work for someone who is bias toward American workers, these guys will get the contract. Homeowners want cheap labor and employers want less liability.

@mugwump242

2 ай бұрын

Being in a union is important. It's not a fix-all (God knows, organized labor is far from perfect) but a union member likely has more protections from being screwed over so hard (by their employer and also by effed-up characteristics of the prevailing, overall job market).

@WallaceAhtone-sq6ty

2 ай бұрын

@@mugwump242Unions are very rare here in Oklahoma, but I knew a journeyman election who used to be in a union. He had nothing but good things to say about it. It did offer a lot more protection than the private guys. There is a reason why Republicans hate unions so much, they want the average person to be as vulnerable as possible.

I'm a boomer who graduated from a Vocational school and was the 1st graduating class from that school in the mid 70's

We need people in trade schools, sure. But I see Boomers telling people who've already been through college to just go to trade school, and that's how you get rid of your student debt, and I think they might have needed actual college to see why their solution requires a time machine.

Now remember, if you're going blue collar don't forget to join a union, I have health,vision,dental plus a pension and a secondary retirement annuity and our contractors pay for every penny of it 👍

Just don't forgot the physical toll (& danger) many trades have on the body, especially once you get to middle-age & beyond.

@keithspernak6456

2 ай бұрын

Good time to get into a kinesiology program and start a career as an Physical Therapist for all the future Elbow, Back, and Knee issues. Lots of PT will be needed for all the Necks and Wrists from people starring at their phones all day also...

@johndor7793

2 ай бұрын

what kind of trades you know of that degrade the body?

*I love the grounded reality of this channel!!!* Retirement took a toll on my finances, but with my involvement in the digital market, $27,000 weekly returns has been life changing. AWESOME GOD❤️ 🎉🎉😊

@ElizabethManassi

2 ай бұрын

I'm in a similar situation where should I look to increase income? Do you have any advice? What did you do ? Thank you

@Cathyhins

2 ай бұрын

Thanks to my co-worker (Alex) who suggested Ms Maria Angelina Alexander.

@Cathyhins

2 ай бұрын

She's a licensed broker in the states 🇺🇸

@AvaH746

2 ай бұрын

Wow...I know her too she is a licensed broker and a FINRA agent she is popular in US and Canada she is really amazing woman with good skills and experience.

@AvaH746

2 ай бұрын

After I raised up to £228k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧🇬🇧 also paid for my son's surgery (Oscar). Glory to God.shalom.

Worked in field service and maintenance for most of my life. I'm retired now, but I wouldn't trade it for anything. I'd do it again, no problem.

Unlike the bull**** "service" jobs, you can actually learn useful things from a trade.

Trades literally pay better than every white collar job except STEM, and even some STEM jobs tbh

@twelvenation6393

2 ай бұрын

No they don’t, they pay dirt. You spend 20+ years getting maybe $30+ and your body is dead. Stop lying to people. Here in florida they slave you for cheap labor and they lay everyone off every 6 months or so

@TL-rh1lf

2 ай бұрын

When I applied to an electrical apprentice, they let you know it's a seasonal job 8-9 months of the year.. factor that into your earnings.

From Canada here -- We have a major shortage of labour for trades and we're actually encouraging immigration to fill the jobs. Trades are great careers, very well-paid, and I suspect this will only improve over time.

@rolfkrajewski4975

2 ай бұрын

The problem is that employers aren't willing to hire/train brand new apprentices without prior experience.

@MsDragonbal776

2 ай бұрын

Idk how people don't see it, but eventually, this mindset will lead to an overabundance of people with trades skills and we'll be back at the same problems we have right now

@rolfkrajewski4975

2 ай бұрын

​@MsDragonbal776 exactly, we already have a huge shortage of Healthcare workers.

@MattBuild4

2 ай бұрын

@@rolfkrajewski4975 If your talking healthcare employers have a legal requirement to not hire and have unqualified people performing health procedures on the public - shocker....

@MsDragonbal776

2 ай бұрын

@@MattBuild4 Jesus Christ, that wasn't his point at all. You must've just come here looking for a fight didn't you??

*I WENT TO CHURCH THIS WEEK* and I'm not even religious - I just needed to get away from the digital world and it was the ONLY place I could think of where I would NOT see a person using a phone... I had reached "DIGITAL MAXIMUM" - and you know what - it really helped - I slept a lot better, I was calmer. Stil not religious but Ill deffo go again.

@piccalillipit9211

2 ай бұрын

@Kuro-Aruu - I live in a city - weirdly my city has meadows and little woodlands in it cos its a '15 minute" communist-era city in Eastern Europe - they are really nice, but there is always someone answering a phone or 10 teenage girls making tic tok videos.

Trade jobs are probably more stable long term so I don’t blame them, plus you make money immediately instead of waiting 4 years to graduate. Not for everyone but not a bad deal if you want to live a comfortable life. Unfortunately, it’s very hard to get wealthy in blue collar jobs unless you own a company so wages stagnate eventually. However, that applies to a lot of white collar workers too.

@brentharrington9235

2 ай бұрын

Define wealthy.

@Boris80b

2 ай бұрын

Correct!

A young person of my acquaintance didn’t win the literal lottery to get one of the absurdly few places in a local (Northern California) nursing school, so went out of state. My impression is that for other occupations, there may be even scarcer availability of training. Going back to medieval guilds, providing that has been part of what labor unions did. I see job training, though, as only part of what education is for. Community colleges tend to be good resources for expanding horizons. Public libraries also often host opportunities for learning.

It's pretty simple math. Vocational schools cost a fraction as much, and (average) starting salary is higher for a certified tradesman - and that salary goes even further since you don't have to pay back a mortgage worth of student loans. BUT Part of the reason for the better pay is the supply/demand of the labor market. If too many go towards trades, then employers won't need to pay as much, while employers looking for college educated employees will have to start paying more due to lower supply and that could easily flip the dynamic. I for one am glad to see it though. I've been saying for 15 years that unless you have your heart set on a particular field that requires a particular degree, you'd have to be an idiot to pay for college at these tuition rates unless somebody else is paying the bill.

It's a reasonable decision and I hope it works out for them as individuals, but it's a result of at least 40 to 50 years of bad policy(running public education like a business). It will also be detrimental to the future of the country, a generation that opts out of higher education won't be able to compete with China and India in the global economy.

Wages in trades have gone way up.

So many comments… Still, gotta say. After over 20 yrs working in higher ed, I have serious thoughts. First, college is mentally and even physically tough, and not for the faint of heart. You have to want to go, and be ready. It’s a brilliant choice if you’re ready and really want it. Even if you have no life plan. In college, you can often find one. It’s everything for those folks, of any background, who are truly curious. Anyone can afford it if they are pretty well prepared. Don’t let anyone tell you no. Do community college, take out loans for public university, just do it if it fits you. You’ll be truly amazed. But nothing at all is sadder than trying over many times and failing, if it’s not right for you. (I know, I failed my first attempt many times, until I was older and ready) If you feel pushed, if you don’t feel up for it, that’s fine. Pick something else, at least for now. Second, vocational school is SO important and so useful. Perfect for many folks who will be very very happy with it. I wish there were more options! To me it all depends how happy you are at the end of each day. (Enough sad tired lawyers out there, not everyone wants that.) My advice is try to find your best happiest daily thing if you possibly can (obvs not everyone can) and go with that. Nothing wrong with either direction, only if you feel really out of place either way. Still, worth taking a college class here & there if you enjoy that. Keeps the brain going! I know plenty of construction workers & etc who love taking classes or watching history vids. We’re all working together here.

The bottom half of colleges shouldn't exist.

@piccalillipit9211

2 ай бұрын

It sounds brutal - but its true. Its not helping them and its harming the top 50% who should be there

@brentharrington9235

2 ай бұрын

The bottom 2/3 of students shouldn't be in college to begin with.

As someone that has worked in a University for the last 14 years and is well aware at how oversold they are. My advice to people is, unless you are 100% sure on the job you want and it NEEDS a degree... don't go. You'll get so much more out of picking up a trade. Once you have your ticket and some experience, you will never be out of work. No matter where you go, you will be needed. Look at all the countries that are chomping at the bit to import tradies. Just don't stay at the offsider (sh*t kicker) level. Get your core trade ticket, then move on to either self employment or as the tradie. Specialize as you feel is needed for extra opportunities and pay. I have deep regrets I didn't do it while I was young.

As a Gen Z, i work as a private PCA, and i am working while taking classes online for my associates degree in my local community college.

Trade is not bad I done the H.V.A.C environment. My father was an electrician So then he taught it as a teacher. There's not a thing wrong with these types of jobs Now I do light construction.

@brianburgess3231

2 ай бұрын

Most of my family too .. and although we were able to attain a electrician licence .. they were never an election

@NeccoWecco

2 ай бұрын

Do you mean.. electrician?

@greenjayltd736

2 ай бұрын

@@NeccoWecco Thank you. Made the correction 😌

@brianburgess3231

2 ай бұрын

@@NeccoWecco neither of these licenses are all that easy to get to begin with

Trade jobs = failing body/health by 55 (if you’re lucky)

@spinninsessions9626

2 ай бұрын

College = Student Loan Debt in the $100K

@coryluke12

2 ай бұрын

@@spinninsessions9626No.

@nurlindafsihotang49

2 ай бұрын

As if college and graduate school does not make you bursting veins and dying in your 40s

@PNHassett

2 ай бұрын

Fire Fighters and Police have a mandatory retirement at 55 years old. Apparently there's something about 55 that makes you phucked.

@brentharrington9235

2 ай бұрын

You don't know many electricians, plumbers or welders do you?

My Masters is in Career & Tech Ed, or Vocational Education. I applaud this movement. Not everyone belongs in a four-year college / university. Which goes against the talking points of the 90s.

My gen Z kid makes more money managing a Jimmy John's than I did when I graduated with my masters degree in social work. And by more money I mean twice as much. It's a great company he has mentors there that help him as a general manager and he really enjoys it. Also I'm 47 and still paying off my student loans.

@caradevino2533

2 ай бұрын

It's notoriously a terrible company to work for. Glad he's happy.

@cominroitover80

2 ай бұрын

It's an awful company and your son is a modern day slavedriver and most likely a terrible person but whatever keeps you shitting in silk depends grandpa

@susie_rigas

2 ай бұрын

@@caradevino2533 me too. I've certainly worked for my share of crappy corporations. In my world though most of them were non-profits that took advantage of their workers.

@mojrimibnharb4584

2 ай бұрын

Who paid you to write this?

@susie_rigas

2 ай бұрын

@@mojrimibnharb4584 I wish!

Good! College is not worth it. I make more money at my skilled trade job than at my job that uses my degrees. Go to trade school and join a union.

@ismaelamaro7728

2 ай бұрын

There are plenty of professions that require a degree and are well-paying. In that case, it's worth it. Lets not make this a black and white issue.

I always wanted to go into trades but was afraid of heights. I use to work as framer, drywaller and I had so much fun. I also did fences and deck but my favorite thing was welding but you don't make much in a shop compared to field work. Afraid of heights held me back.

Yeah…. College is unaffordable…..

College is unaffordable, that's why. Companies are pleased

Because they have to… most people don’t just want to go into a trade. They literally can’t afford to do anything else.

@somchai272

2 ай бұрын

As a property manager that often needs contractors, most enjoy their work. Especially the pay.

@StardustNMagic

2 ай бұрын

@@somchai272 I’m sure they do. But this story is implying that this shift in the workforce is due to Gen z simply wanting to go into a trade because it’s what they enjoy and not because the barrier of entrance to “white collar” jobs which is. College isn’t pricing them out

@StardustNMagic

2 ай бұрын

@@somchai272 I’m sure they do. But this story is implying that this shift in the workforce is due to Gen z simply wanting to go into a trade because it’s what they enjoy and not because the barrier of entrance to “white collar” jobs which is. College isn’t pricing them out

@somchai272

2 ай бұрын

@@StardustNMagic probably some truth in that. I'm trying to convince my son to join the military under the GI bill because I can't afford a 4 year university.

Fixing AC is a dangerous trade. You deal with chemicals and mold and what not and it seems like a good trade but when people figure out that it ruins their health they rightfully rethink that choice.

@danielmankinde1706

2 ай бұрын

so whos gonna fix it? entitled brat

@ribbrascal1065

2 ай бұрын

​@danielmankinde1706 You're talking to a noodly-armed betabro who would curl into a ball if he was attacked, especially by a black person

Flexible hours. No office. Less commute. No boss sometimes.

This is because the wage that SHOULD be earned by those with a college degree is FAR TOO LOW. Just look at what a teacher earns. Not saying that people shouldn't do trades. But people should go where their talents lead.

@charlotteinnocent8752

2 ай бұрын

@@minnmedia612 You think that's all they do? Hardly. You think they only work 9 months? You know nothing JS.

@timothyschwarz4028

2 ай бұрын

@@minnmedia612 You have to prepare classes, plan a year, make yourself familiar with changes to new contents, which is propably about half of a teachers work.

Job security - very important

One thing that the media doesn't discuss is the opportunity cost of college. 100k mutual fund bought at 21 and left in until 60 is millions. Thats the real reason the student loan program was created.

Iv been doing warehouse and trade jobs for over a decade. You will wish you went to school, don’t waste you time on these slave jobs

@AverageJoe483

2 ай бұрын

Car mechanic , plumber , electrician pay good money .

@Brassard1985

2 ай бұрын

@@AverageJoe483Yeah they pay well, but they come at a cost. It’s long hours doing physically demanding, backbreaking work.

@AverageJoe483

2 ай бұрын

@@Brassard1985 it’s not worse than I had in the military and it pays better .

@twelvenation6393

2 ай бұрын

@@AverageJoe483 I’m never slaving my body for trash wages. Even if they pay good they don’t pay for the journey to get their lol you are a slave for years then maybe get some crumbs. Hell I was doing plumbing back in 2016 they were paying me $9.50 and your while clean up guys would get $10 lol just cleaning lol I was don’t with it all when you watch the Forman do nothing for months and get payed 10x what you are being paid doing ALL the work! No way I’m doin that garbage again

@Brassard1985

2 ай бұрын

@@AverageJoe483 Than you had in the military? My guy, people destroy their bodies in the military… so that’s not really saying much.

Knee and back surgeries going to go up

@montanamountainmen6104

2 ай бұрын

Lifes a bitch huh?

@TL-rh1lf

2 ай бұрын

​@@montanamountainmen6104 not so much when you use your brain instead of your back

Given the exorbitant rates of university tuition, maybe when more members of Gen Z go the blue collar route, the university system will actually start to price their education what it is worth instead of trying to extract the maximum amount of money the can get from students, their families, and loaning programs. Its only because large swathes of the population were sold the bill of goods that a university education is the only way to ensure economic mobility that universities have been able to hold kids and their families hostage, essentially charging them what ever enormous price they wanted to. When I graduated from my university, over 24 years ago, the cost vs benefit analysis for college made sense. Now, with the exception of a few degrees, you don't get a return on investment by going to college the way you used to. To make matter worse, judging by my interaction with many college kids today, you don't even get particularly enlightened by going to college.

Nothing can replace Ana.

My husband and i own a welding company. We install handrails and stairs in commercial buildings. Any building that has an evevator must have a stair weather it's 2 story' or 20 stories. It's so hard to find employees. They use to offer the trades is public schools when i was growing up. It was called Votech. But not anymore. Ironwork is a dieing and retireing trade.

It's about time. We don't have anyone who can do anything anymore. And the "Boomers" would like to retire

@waspwrap1235

2 ай бұрын

And GenX too

@robl8285

2 ай бұрын

I wanna retire gen x

@barbarahasenauer2630

2 ай бұрын

@robl8285 there you go.. I'm glad to see trade schools coming back . They need to be back in all the high schools. The news reports on trade schools like they've never existed befor.. so sad