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@HH-hd7nd

Ай бұрын

What types of crests will be aquired in Delves? Ion said that the highest Delve difficulties will trop Heroic level gear so it should be the same level of crests.

Making crests harder to get is such a bad move. They changed the system to be easier and now slowly reverting it to the old system again

One massive class change for warrior I wish to see it the removal of the useless ability called Slam from the game.

As a casual player who has time to only main on class (shaman in my case), I desperately wish there would be a rework for shaman before the end of beta

@-.-Monster

Ай бұрын

As someone that wants to play a shaman but has no desire to play the current way enhancement is made; i agree :D

@kitcraft9516

Ай бұрын

I'm still waiting on my Shaman tank...

@benjaminhampson1670

Ай бұрын

​@@kitcraft9516 they'd prob do that before a sham rework

@Jinx1349

Ай бұрын

@@kitcraft9516 dont hold your breath.

@darcraven01

Ай бұрын

i wish they'd seperate the shaman specs by element and give 4 specs.. water healing, wind/lightning melee, fire ranged, and earth tank. sadly with the hero talent trees as they are it wont happen yet

Don't think making crests harder to obtain is a good idea, once you get to +8 and above you cut out a significant portion of the player base capable of doing that difficulty.

@stahliboi6249

Ай бұрын

Crests are already really boring to farm in my opinion, not happy they're making it harder

@Guitarman5705

Ай бұрын

@@stahliboi6249 yeah exactly I'd be more okay with increasing the amount of crests per dungeon to 15 at the very least so you can upgrade a piece per mythic you time. Instead of having to do a buffer dungeon for the next 4, feels weird to be that stingy with it.

@stahliboi6249

Ай бұрын

@@Guitarman5705 im 100% on board with.

@TE-eq1dc

Ай бұрын

Man they will never learn!!! Blizz wake up you are still catering to the high end 1% super meta gamers. You say that you are focused on the causal to mid player but then you make crests harder to get in M+???? If it’s not broke don’t fix it. Jesus that development time wasted on changing something that was fine could be used somewhere else to benefit players

@jessicahampton4581

Ай бұрын

As long as they drop from other sources I don't plan to play mythic plus at all!!! My main concentration will be delves.. and dungeons.

Thanks for the video

shaman changes: 10 seconds long XD

@JonpaulGee

Ай бұрын

Missing windfury, 3 broken talents, t-pose stormstrike, and more...

@TheMetrolux

Ай бұрын

Blizzard hates Shamans

@NoOne1x

Ай бұрын

Yeah my main class has zero changes xd

@cemyalcnkaya9267

Ай бұрын

guardian druids does not even exist in the changes :D

@NoOne1x

Ай бұрын

@@cemyalcnkaya9267 More classes will come later

Can you use chapters next time?

@milkaselnuss

Ай бұрын

There are timestamps in the infobox. Seems like youtube didn't pick them up somehow.

@Alesthes

Ай бұрын

And maybe, I don't know, add some relevant footage of the classes/abilities? I am pretty sure we are able to simply read patch notes on our own...

@heathmcrigsby

Ай бұрын

Or just not make a video where the patch notes are read to us

@burtonkevin32

Ай бұрын

My autistic as loves “watching” videos that read out the notes otherwise I can’t get myself to sit and read them all. To each their own.

@WarMonkeyPlays

Ай бұрын

Chapters have been added at this point. I've noticed many times that chapters don't get added until later. Not sure if that's YT just being a bit slow or creators forgetting and then going back.

Me: I like that some of the melee ranges feel various. It's nice to have a little diversity in melee positioning. Blizzard: We want all melee to stand in the same place.

and it will change as it gets closer to launch so i wouldnt put to much into this

I sure wish they would just let things stay in place for awhile. They don't have to destroy the class every weak.

I personally think ret is in a good position in its current state and really hope the reworks dont mess up the overall feel.

Would like Death Knight Death Coil to be one shotter, as in use ase all Runic Power with one hit. The melee attacks are smaller ones. All classes and specs should have one similar spell that uses the power, or rage, or mana at one big hit.

@Ben-iv4yb

Ай бұрын

No

Thanks as always

daaaamn unholy DK looks like something i could enjoy after years

I'm still hoping for an elemental shaman rework.

@Akihito_Kanbara

29 күн бұрын

But it doesn't need a rework? What do you consider the problem with ele?

@MrTreefrog98

28 күн бұрын

Man... they nerfed lava surge to 15% back in the day. Lightning bolt and chain lightning are so underpowered outside cooldowns. Earthquake and earth shock feel useless - but elemental blast feels awful to use. Crit doesn't scale with lava burst. I love the mastery but it often ignored (except this lava burst season). Also, the core of the class has not been changed since vanilla - [same with resto]. Also also, blizzard treats us like a neglected stepson. Also also also, playing cata classic made me realize how much better the animations feel. They feel CHUNKY, not like a little static shock that is lightning bolt on retail . What do you think?@@Akihito_Kanbara

It was kind of annoying having to do M0 to get drake crests. I assume +2 and +3 will drop “runed” crests, and it’s just an oversight that it seemingly says nothing will drop from +2/+3.

Well so much for the fun with alts like in dragonflight this xpac looks like a huge step back wtg blizzard...

Skelemage is back without the skin :)

*Making crests harder to obtain it going to put off a portion of casual players or those with limited time they can spend per day bothering with the xpac.* Vintage Blizzard 😂😂

The issue is the healer trinkets are almost always garbage

I like STOCKADE style dungeons, simple and clean, cant fk around with special routes. Would need to clear all rooms before advancing.

@Akihito_Kanbara

29 күн бұрын

God yes. In fact, I wish they made it so every dungeon had forced encounters. People will spend minutes trying to do some weird crap to avoid a trash pull that would have taken 10 seconds.

@mazz85-

29 күн бұрын

@@Akihito_Kanbara Yea, longer route to avoid one or two extra kills, is like wtf ?

Item diversity is almost as important as class diversity when we don't have bullions. Good change!

So does ret pally lose all the range on there abilities aswell? They practically a ranged class at this point

@RyanofAndor

Ай бұрын

Only crusader strike.

love how basically they went backwards on the "we want people to do all keystone levels" excuse lol

They need to leave the crest thing alone ! Making it harder to get them will just ruin the game , why so many people came back to play dragonflight it was fun and leveling up your gear makes it fun ,if you can't get new gear and upgrade it why play ? So I hope blizzard leaves it the way it is , its hard enough for most people now

Army reduced to 3 min is not a massive change, that is the normal coldown of the ability if you play the class , now its 3 min base coldown and the cdr componet of it its gone...

Blizz is coooooookin. Except for the crests. That's an insane L, wtf are they thinking? So what? I'll get Myth gear in the vault BEFORE I can even fully upgrade Hero gear? Blizz. Don't. Alienate. Your. Playerbase.

@justinsouthwick4181

Ай бұрын

Been playing too much MoP remix. Read this as “Blizz is Ookin”

@godlike69r

Ай бұрын

not really keys are so easy +10 s4 was easy day 1 wont be much different with +9s even if your not a good player 2 weeks max and you will outgear it then they will be a breeze

@Nor-87

29 күн бұрын

nha i dont think so. if u struggle with 9's then u need some practise and its not ment to be handouts. gotta work a lil for it at least

Truly a return to old blizzard with the trinket changes, instead of addressing the reason for the demand on dps trinkets they just nerf them for non dps specs. I swear balancing around M+ has been the worst thing blizzard has done for the game in a long time, and they don't even get it right which is the problem. Blizzard hyper fixates on healing output for healers and then thinks that is fine but then ignores the fact that this entire xpack disc and holy priest both have needed to use tank trinkets and many other healing specs require dps trinkets to keep up with the damage checks needed. This will be the second season where im opting for fyrakks rage heart and a stat stick over any healer trinkets (outside of ward in like one dungeon) and this will still continue into the next xpack because healer trinkets almost always are horrible hybrid damage and healing ones or just objectively worse then defensive options of a tank trinket or offenses of a dps trinket. The bullion system should literally just be a mainstay for every season just cap it 2 items and you get them week 4 and 6 of the season. "They stop needing those trinkets in a tanking or healing environment" Yes because healer trinkets are terrible or insanely niche and tanks at the start of dragonflight where complaining so much about not feeling "tanky" that blizzard made almost every tank unkillable, which btw is why every single dungeon has a million random aoe blasts that nuke the parties hp because tanks literally don't need healing until world first lvl keys or progression raiding. Yes keeping them in dedicated lanes would be good, if blizzard didn't make one of the most popular modes in the game entirely around going fast which forces tanks and healers into needing to do damage. Nobody is going to opt for a trinket that provides 1% of your healing over something that can provide you 20-30% increase in your overall damage done inside a key the only people who will likely don't realize that healers and tanks are vastly overtuned that the only way people should be dyeing is lack of defensive usage or oneshots through defensives.

As a monk main when I logged into the Beta and saw the new tree I had such a headache. Edit: I love how people are trying to chew me out. Never said I didn't like it. It's a lot changing so it gave me a headache to keep track of.

@TheBulge

Ай бұрын

That's you, as another monk main I had an extreme sigh of relief after seeing brewmaster changes.

@user-le4jt9ne2f

Ай бұрын

What do you mean im a monk main since mop and all the spec's rework/talent tree's is the best thing they could have done now! So much bs talents i was forced to take is gone now and i can play so much better talents/builds now its perfect

More casual focused would be nice for us aging peeps that have been here since the start lol!

Blizzard, shooting themselves in the foot since 2004

First, what is that flying mount in the opening? I don’t recognize it.

@grantx6

Ай бұрын

Looks like he's riding a flight path in the new expansion

@grantx6

Ай бұрын

Might b unreleased ^

I think the way crests are now is just right, cant se how its a bad thing, how it is

No survival changes 😢

@Naeinsengimnida

Ай бұрын

No Survival for Hunters...

Forced spec check should be a thing: You que as tank, you play as tank, you que as dps you play as dps, you que as healer you play as healer. Couse this is open for abuse, and we see many que as healer to get in faster and then they just troll around as dps. This needs fixing.

@Boss-ot1iy

Ай бұрын

If they're over geared what's the issue? Seems you wanna complain just to complain

@Akihito_Kanbara

29 күн бұрын

​@@Boss-ot1iy who said anything about being over geared? People do this and then take loot that the people who actually queued as DPS should have got instead. Something tells me you're one of the people who do this all the time.

@Boss-ot1iy

29 күн бұрын

@Akihito_Kanbara No one, but who's gonna join undergeared for tanking as a dps? No one, since they'll get 1 shotted. Logically (if you have any logic), most people queueing as tanks and then switching to dps tend to be overgeared

@mazz85-

28 күн бұрын

@@Boss-ot1iy You cant be undergeared, there is a minimum entry ilevel.

@mazz85-

28 күн бұрын

@@Boss-ot1iy Game is meant to be played with all roles, not just the tank, is why they have 3 choises. They need to add barriers room by room, so it cant be speeded or abused anymore.

I skipped to the the Shaman changes and bust out laughing 😂

@TheCruelbeans

Ай бұрын

Oh god...I'm a shaman healer and this made me feel bad.

@TheCruelbeans

Ай бұрын

I just saw it....wtf

I think its funny that wow wants tanks using tank trinkets and not dps because they are supposed to be tanks.. though every tank has so much self heal that healers are irrelevant for highend content and swapped for dps... maybe remove a shitton of selfheal from all tanks?!

Heroic raid (at least the later half) should drop aspect crests then.... all heroic raid gear requires them to upgrade. Nobody without is downing mythic bosses before their hero gear is close to max lol shit some people are still struggling with their final boss on heroic with maxed hero gear lol they taking myth gear out of vault drops from M+?

If I'm a healer that is expected to also do damage then the trinkets are ummmm. ??

I'm really thinking of switching from DH to Hunter but damn Hunter is one of the few classes even more neglected! It just really blows my mind why some classes get so much work and others so little, it's not good for the game!

im a new player but I even I knew that shaman would be ignored lmao

The Feral Mastery... Isn't changed at all? Hasn't it always been bleed damage since like, Cata?

@Nightritual1332

Ай бұрын

Druids bleeds got nerfed or changed awhile ago. Now it's been ferocious bite for main DMG. Unless its changed again

@ragethebeast

Ай бұрын

Feral mastery was only bleed increased. Now its bleed and other periodic effects AKA moonfire / sunfire for Owlweaving

@kungjocke9446

28 күн бұрын

@@ragethebeast ah yeah right, makes sense. Except for the sunfire/owlweaving part lol. Aint gonna happen.

I don’t think I can play normal wow anymore after playing remix

Yall got any of those…beta codes? *scratches neck*

@jessicahampton4581

Ай бұрын

There coming if you bought the 20th anniversary edition which I did so patiently waiting for mine.

why don't you use chapters in your videos??

why blizz why.... smh. I gotta try out Baldur's gate 3....

16:07 he stops talk about class changes

They said they didn't want the Emblem system, yet this is exactly the same but with harder names to remember. "Let's confuse them" - Blizzard

I mean these can't be classified as buffs or nerfs honestly. There's a lot changing and you don't really have a baseline to compare to be calling them buffs or nerfs.

What this is all old news

Bleh, I like DPS trinkets on my tank and Healer trinkets on my ranged dps. And no DK or Druid on the new race? Guess I'll level one and never use it, lol.

Seems like the classes are reworked, so just start any class because they're all new again. Worse than when we started Legion. Or, am I overthinking.

Tanks: highest mobility in the game. Highest defense in the game. Highest healing in the game. Strongest DPS trinkets in the game. Also tanks: omggggg stop taking everything awayy from usssss 😭😭😭😭

So glad for the trinket change. It really grinds my gears that so many tanks or healers were using Beacon and taking it from dps. It's an unarguable fact that a tank with beacon tanks worse than one using a tank trinket, so why did we let assholes keep doing it? It should be a kickable offense to purposely use trinkets that make you worse at your role. it's fine in meme quick runs you don't need to work at, but often I saw idiots doing it during progression for actually no good reason other than to feel like a big man with one big number every 3 minutes...

well Tauren paladin makes 0 sense and we got it , so why not nelf pala which would be exactly the same as having tauren pala. I dont mind them scrapping any " have to make sense " and give all races all classes.

I just will just be around to check the changes in the first season to see if they did the same mistake they did with DF, which was massive reworks on failed attempts, really bad talents trees which still seem bad (current ones and to a lesser extend TWW) which should never be on live otherwise why would you be paying to basically beta test in the live version because DF was rushed af and it seems TWW is getting rush as as well. See ya in S3 i guess, not falling for the same stupid trap again.

I loved going for higher dps as tank and dmg items as a minigame. And I could play dd specc more easily. I do not like this change. It minimizes player choice. Do more dps trinkets and not tank trinkets that no one wants.

Just let me tank as survival hunter 😭 and unprune og pet talents plz

@pet4pr4nk

Ай бұрын

first survival change shoud be a rename to not survival since its one of the squishyest specs out there

Don't care what the Hunter changes are if they get rid of that awful Gear appearance

I don't get the crest change. Nothing is stopping raiders from also running Mythics, so why does it matter how the upgrades are obtained? There is no exclusivity preventing them from going the "easy route" to improve their gear while making the Mythic raid easier between lockouts. Sounds like a change that only benefits a small percentage of the player base, and a return to the age of elitism. In simpler words; a dumb change.

Blizzard way of thinking, "oh it ain't broke, let's utterly destroy it and piss off as many players as possible while we're at it". They won't be happy until they kill the game and run everyone off.

the trinket change is bad nobody wants the tank/healer ones because you outscale the need for them.

Been subscribed to warcraft since vanilla , paid thousands of pounds, never been given beta . Fast enough tho to email me to buy stuff from blizzard, not to quick on giving loyal subscribers anything apart from asking for more money....

@ZackNeill

Ай бұрын

You get beta access if you get the Epic edition. Surely a few more pounds is nothing for a dedicated player

It is a shame that the devs always change classes instead of creating new things to do! You would think after 20 years the classes and how they play could be set and an expansion would really be a real expansion vice a few weeks or less of things to do.

@Turbotef

Ай бұрын

Speak for yourself, I've enjoyed all of the class changes over the years and appreciate finding new ways or interesting buffs to my class to keep it fresh after playing for nearly 20 years.

The current talent tree is kinda stupid, you are forced to take the first ones to get to the middle, so how is it really a talent tree then ???... I liked how it was in Shadowlands that we dragged the spells in order of my choosing to make the talent tree, but did not like that we had to loot them as randoms, NEY for rng ! Have them spells all listed, and i wil drag or activate the ones i like to use, depending if i do; pvp/pve/questing/warmode. For arena it might wana take strong single target and survival spells.

Please let them be not shut decisions

Beta? More like Alpha, some of the bugs are just unbelieveable, the Warbands bank for example was most definately not tested at all before they put that in the "Beta".

Why can’t they buff the first mage more it’s the weakest mage even fully geared smh

I think aspect and mythic vault should only be for 10+

I feel great about the trinket change..they need to keep it..DPS can finally get our trinkets we need. Instead of tanks stealing our trinkets..

Oh noe, not mandatory flying in raids ??? That just creates more toxic players to make these special routes, and if you dont know the route you be kicked out or cant simply find the route and cant join. Tanks skipp patrols is the issue.

How come you didn't say anything about demon hunters? Maybe no change but, you went in to hunters and they didn't get changes.. not even a mention for dh? Guess not a real favorite class? Just a noticeable omission..

Don't forget that new hc dungeons are the same as M0 before. People are used to reaching max level, instantly queueing for hc dungeons like in old expansions and gearing. Many super casual players would find themselves getting smashed by sudden M0 difficulty especially with their low ilvl. Imagine queueing for hc in the first week and being unable to clear the dungeon because 3/5 people are insanely casual and can't do it. This way is way better, it's literally the same as M0 before.

@frozby5973

29 күн бұрын

Well it will depend on the strength of leveling gear. Cleared all +8s in thr first week of S4 with S3 gear so idk it felt quite a bit easier than previous seasons jumps. We might just end up being completely overpowered and unchallenged in normal dungeons and have nothing to do until the season drops which would kinda suck wouldnt it

Honestly, I'm getting tired of Blizzard trying to tell me how to enjoy their game.

nerfing melee range why not just buff melee range

I'm not farming crests with these stupid affixes again.

Gear upgrades harder for m+?. Sheesh guess ill just level and quit again 😂. Theres not enough fun in the game anymore

well rip how i play i play tank with meta dps trinkets also demonhunter needs more races please

nerf heroic dungeon (remove group finder) nerf loot, nerf weapon-tinkets and etc for tanks... "fun police" by blizzard strikes again

These are all old news

i hate doom.. its redesign doesnt help. i barely remember to use it. just feels like a novelty ability and i kinda wish they'd remove it and give back nether portal

No Hunter changes 😂

@AugieK

Ай бұрын

Thanks for saving me 25 min

@Leucienfireweaver

Ай бұрын

@@AugieK Hunter rework bulk is arriving next tuesday, and will kick off their month of focused work.

Good on crest maybe it will stop the b.s. farming by people who was carried to extreme levels

First ! So excited for this expansion

They should stop this shitty upgradable gear.

Hunters aways the same shit

Second! I cant wait for this to come out

Removing shadowdance for outlaw is a huge L. That kills 20% of the spec burst...

sense? SENSE? you can be a Draenei WARLOCK and you talking about SENSE? Im shocked. F blizzard and wow.

Blizzard should just remove Mythic+ and replace them with something else, Mythic+ is just a lazy way for blizzard so they don't have to make new dungeons.

@nemojotun1284

Ай бұрын

Trash take

@lawrenceherman2961

Ай бұрын

M+ is extremely popular. More popular than Raiding.

"Gearing up will be harder", that's all I need to know to not purchase the expansion. THey tailor the game for people that can play 3+hours daily, good luck with them.

I play Shaman this expansion looks like trash so far ill probally skip it.

so bastion of light gets a really hard nerf as 5 double holy power vs 4 extra gcd is trash compared to 9 free holy power uses with no added gcd. light of the titans also seems like a massive nerf. and trhe wake of ashes camera thing is bulllshit. its making it less playable... when will blizz stop this crippling. it's why the whole evore is inplayable too some mechanics i cannot controll because of the way i plau (mainly mouse). make it a fucking OPTION why are people in life allergic to ffing options. Not everyone like this camera based shit. There seems to be a whole lot of nerfing in timers which with shit like a gcd is terrible we need longer durations not shorter. And the melee range just need to be hight by default then as frankly life as a melee with all the garbage on the ground is hard enough as it is. either that or dps needs a MASSIVE buff for all the time we cant do jack shit because we are forced out of range. this expansion liiks like a no buy so i can play other games for a few years. they seem to make a shitty expansion every 3rd or so.

i really dont get why people cover beta stuff... none of this matter and its all gonna change. i know you want views but comon

Dude ... Time Fucking Stamps.....

I am so tired of aeeing hunters get shat upon. I am already not excited for tww.

More over complicated BS? Are we gonna get an unf..ed Priest? I am sick of the way they treat priests in this game.

Why blizzard can't make tank real tanks? Stop giving tanks chance to doing 1st dps over and over. Give them trinkets to handle bosses and help raid. And god damn, make mythic also lfr... This flying is so annoying. Party leader should have an option to just choose which lvl he want to do and sign a group.

@pazzoaf

Ай бұрын

They need to balance utility across all tanks before they do anything else. Veng and prot pally bring soooo much utility to comps whereas blood and prot warr have been left far behind. Rally’s nice, and blood getting to spread its AMS is awesome. But the fact that something like veng can completely lock down whole packs on their own through 6 sigils is insane.

@s.r.1048

Ай бұрын

"this flying is annoying" it's an MMO, if everything had lfr queues then what's the point of having an open world, just queue straight to content from character page.

@ironsideeve2955

Ай бұрын

Dps : does dps Tank: has cc and does slightly less dps Healer: does bad dps

@dswan10

Ай бұрын

I think it’s best you don’t type again

@Painchiller

Ай бұрын

If ur tank is first in dps, I have bad news for your group

It is simply laughable how Blizzard NEVER learns. WHY in the name of... are you making gearing harder??? Still catering to the tryharding min-maxers. Sorry, I can't play this game more than 3-4 hours per day, so I probably will not play it at all. Gearing in DF was fine, many people liked it (if we exclude the stupid crest farming and crest caps). Yet instead, you again decide to make it unfriendly to the casual player. Not to mention that starting with TWW each xpac will last shorter - seasons will be shorter as well. This again makes no sense to me whatsoever.

@frozby5973

29 күн бұрын

I find shorter seasons to be a good thing people get bored after 2 months and have nothing really to do other than pushing m+ untill they cant no more. Adding 2 m+ levels to upgrade myth gear is seriously not such a big deal... many dont play more than 3-4 hours a day, i know i dont and ive been able to do +8s literally first week of S4. I doubt you will even feel a difference between a +6 and a +8... Alao if youre so casual crest caps wouldnt bother you at all...