Gear for Dirty Kanza. What worked. What sucked.

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  • @noegarcia7358
    @noegarcia73586 жыл бұрын

    I watched your journey from the beginning all the way to the DK. I was also going couch to Kanza! I was 330lbs in January when I got the email. I rode and rode and rode... You guys were an inspiration as I trained. It was the hardest thing Inhave ever done. The DK200 is no joke. It took me 20 hours and 42 minutes.... But I did it! Thank you for your videos and hope to see you there next year.

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    Congrats!

  • @tahntalus

    @tahntalus

    5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!! Congrats!! What was your weight when you lined up at the scratch line? Any advice for a new clydesdale rider?

  • @radagastbrown9001

    @radagastbrown9001

    5 жыл бұрын

    Amazing! !!! Congratulations! !!!

  • @MarkRyanAB
    @MarkRyanAB6 жыл бұрын

    I switched from a Garmin 520 to Wahoo Bolt and never looked back. It's stable, menus are intuitive, and does everything I need.

  • @jessa.4529
    @jessa.45296 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your willingness to be honest abt how gear performs even when it's a sponsor. That's real dude

  • @Slappywag69
    @Slappywag696 жыл бұрын

    I did the 100, and during the second 50 Miles I drank 3 water bottles full of electrolyte drink and a full 2L hydration bladder of water, still finished a little dehydrated...the heat and humidity is for real! For navigation, here’s what I’ve done for the past 3 years at the DK100: I use ridewithgps and my iPhone...I pay the $3.99 (week subscribe) fee to get “premium” features, primarily so I can download the race map to have access offline (which allows my navigation to work when cell phone coverage is sketchy). I put my iPhone in a top tube bag, connected to a portable usb battery pack which extends the battery life well longer than I need for the race.

  • @OneLessCar
    @OneLessCar6 жыл бұрын

    Great round up. I just got back from Sweden and riding the 300km Vätternrundan, an awesome event, you'd love it. There's depots every 40km or so with food and drink (mechanics and drop offs too). The roads are fantastic, I think I hit 2 bumps the whole ride. And the locals come out to cheer on the 27000 riders who leave in waves every 2 minutes from 7pm until 7am. An amazingly well organised event I can't recommend enough. (I'll have videos out this week 😊)

  • @radagastbrown9001

    @radagastbrown9001

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sounds great! !!!

  • @WildlandExplorer
    @WildlandExplorer6 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why people don't use elastic straps around their bottle cages to pull bottles close to the frame. They cost nothing, weigh nothing and keep your bottles from launching out on washboard, etc.

  • @ovejanegra2998
    @ovejanegra29985 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the shout out!

  • @robertbonner5973
    @robertbonner59736 жыл бұрын

    Great video, the information you provide is always helpful to me. As far as the bottle cage goes , I’ve had no problems since I switched to the Arundel bottle cage.

  • @cjdaking
    @cjdaking6 жыл бұрын

    That's a lot of extra weight. You could slim down to 40c tires and ditch half of the gear you brought next time. Being clever with gear, spares, food, and layers in your drop bags can reduce how much weight you have to lug. Basically plan for 4 50-mile rides. Something else to consider regarding clothing is wicking - if your shirt and shorts can't quickly move moisture out and away from your body, the heat has trouble dissipating. Maybe a long-sleeve running top and a good pair of bibs would be a good alternative, especially if you encounter heat like we had this year.

  • @lorenzsiggel1515

    @lorenzsiggel1515

    6 жыл бұрын

    Some thoughts: I use garmin gps units (an Oregon 450 and edge 520plus) and what I don’t like is generating a route on the Mac in basecamp and the unit recalculates it with some interesting deviations...unless there are enough key waypoints. I agree with the comment of transfer them as tracks. Otherwise no real complaints other than garmin gets easily confused when you leave the track/route...yeah, it’s really annoying. Clothing: a good jersey is better for heat management and saves energy (perhaps just a mental block on your end not wanting to look like a roadie?😜). Tighter clothing does save energy, which can be important over 200 miles(320km). Your feet also swell in other shoes...do you just retie looser? You can do that with mtb shoes after a couple hours too. Clipless are better in my opinion in a direct comparison. Training for 300km events for a geezer like me (62years old and I do “stupid” stuff each year, according to my wife, no one in their right mind rides 300km at a stretch without an ebike😂) involves plenty of shorter rides with long climbs to develop strength and increase the anaerobic threshold (or whatever...train harder than the ride). Power is a cubic function of speed (or so I recall from physics courses in the ‘70s) so doubling your speed requires 8 times the energy...train hard and the slower event pace is easier to maintain for the longer duration. Registering for an event like this requires commitment in training...it is boring, it will hurt...so embrace it for success. Wow, more words than expected. Sorry. Next year I will put my name in the dk200 lottery hat. None-the-less the honesty in your videos is refreshing and I enjoy my subscription. The DK200 is definitely NOT part of the supple life. Keep the supple side down you two!

  • @ericpmoss

    @ericpmoss

    6 жыл бұрын

    The one thing I didn't get is why he kept a dark t-shirt on underneath his long-sleeve shirt. Two layers would kill me. Other weighty objects aside, being overheated makes the excess weight 5x as hard to deal with. Oh, and a cap under the helmet??? Or am I imagining I saw him in that?

  • @tcy2112

    @tcy2112

    5 жыл бұрын

    Chris, I like where you're going on tire size. A 40c tire on the Cutthroat might mess with the bike's geometry and drop the bottom bracket a bit low for clearance purposes. However, I rode 45's on my old Fargo (which has a very similar geometry to the Cutthroat) and was happy with the results--A nice balance of speed and cush. From personal observations in past Kanzas, bigger tires tend to yield fewer flats. Saw a lot of cross tires bit it. Some gravel tire would flat but never saw anyone flat on MTB tires. Again, 45's on a Cutthroat would be worth considering. I go back and forth on clothing. I understand that tight clothing can be hot and uncomfortable but wonder if a wicking mountain jersey would be a happy medium. PLP, you do you. I hope you get another chance next year.

  • @TarmacSkin

    @TarmacSkin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thats more of touring set up. DK is fast. Being slow on a ride like that is torture. Flannel is absolutely too hot. I use white and thin jerseys. Under layer for uv protection.

  • @Larpy1933
    @Larpy19332 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Kudos for telling it like it is with your Garmin device.

  • @LarryMullins111
    @LarryMullins1116 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos!! Great info!!!

  • @rabbitruck
    @rabbitruck5 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree with your comments on the Redshift Shockstop stem. I put one on my Willard last year and it has to be the best money I've spent on a bike part/accessory in a long time. The naysayers, as you mention, are missing out.

  • @merchantcycles
    @merchantcycles4 жыл бұрын

    Love the video and gravel content. Keep it up.

  • @WildOutdoorLiving
    @WildOutdoorLiving6 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear that the Riddlers held up, I recently got some for my bike so that's reassuring. It's maybe important to note that the Riddlers are not skinwalls. According to WTB their tanwall tires are identical to their black wall tires with coloring being the only difference. They do use the light and fast casing though so you're still living on the edge either way haha.

  • @TheCatAteMyShoe
    @TheCatAteMyShoe5 жыл бұрын

    I just got the Garmin Edge 830 this year and it worked flawlessly for DK200. I think all the xx30 series have been drastically updated. Also, they have an optional external battery that connects giving the Edges 20 more hours. So after DK, I still had over 50% battery life. It was great. Now, on to Gravel Worlds!

  • @johnbaca8692
    @johnbaca86925 жыл бұрын

    I haven't followed your DK series because I don't care about competitive sports. I do like bikes, componants and accessories! Thanks for the honest vid. I like that you rode the race your way, and as a couple. You guys are awesome.

  • @drouleau
    @drouleau5 жыл бұрын

    Garmin 1030 for the win - I did a 140 mile ride around Los Angeles with GPS turn-by-turn routing (no auto-rerouting) and in 105 degree temps, and still had 17% battery left when I finished (and was using a power meter and HRM too). The 1030 has an option to mount a spare battery underneath as well, which is pretty slick.

  • @bbbart6271
    @bbbart62714 жыл бұрын

    Flat pedals rocks! Good to see people gravel riding them

  • @Larpy1933
    @Larpy19332 жыл бұрын

    Tire sealant that doesn’t dry out: Slime brand (fluorescent green, widely available). Use lots and I mix it 2 + 1 motocross antifreeze. Bel-Ray and Moto Chill antifreezes are non-toxic. It makes the Slime less viscous, so it moves around better inside the tire. Slime brushed on the tire bead makes a great lube for fitting tubeless tires.

  • @BBQSKI
    @BBQSKI6 жыл бұрын

    I've had lots of bad luck with Garmin....finally got rid of my Edge 1000 to a Wahoo Element -- much happier

  • @alexball5907
    @alexball59076 жыл бұрын

    I've been using a Garmin Edge GPS system for a few years. It's pretty much faultless. It's also cheap. I'd recommend just uploading your routes as tracks and using it like that.

  • @rice_police88
    @rice_police885 жыл бұрын

    I have the Garmin Edge Explore 820 and I've been having the same issues Laura was having when navigating some gravel rides. I've been debating switching to the Wahoo Element Bolt. What do you think? Is it worth it?

  • @alutious
    @alutious4 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I am going with a 45mm riddler on the back. So I like that she used them. So all your tires were tubeless? I am going to use a 40mm wtb nanos, all i can fit on my fork. Should have the same sidewall as the riddler. thx. And without supplies how much do you think your bikes weighed?

  • @jabba0975
    @jabba09755 жыл бұрын

    "Dude, want to go for a ride today?" "Wish I could, but I crashed yesterday and garmined my wrist. Have to get an x-ray." "Cool new bike." "Yeah, my other one garmined at the bottom bracket." You come upon a crashed mountain biker: "Are you OK?" "Yeah, my front wheel garmined on that bump."

  • @jeffbrunton3291
    @jeffbrunton32916 жыл бұрын

    My garmin works fine but will hang and need a total reset if you try to alter anything mid ride eg turn off BT / HR etc. Best not to fiddle with it too much. I now run an old edge 200 as back up just to record the ride in case my 810 runs out our battery

  • @scrooge1913
    @scrooge19136 жыл бұрын

    I want to echo the sentiment on charging the lights. Mine went out around somewhere around mile 190. Make sure to charge and have a backup if possible. If another rider hadn't have spotted me a headlight, I wouldn't have finished.

  • @alcowan7163
    @alcowan71636 жыл бұрын

    Your gear choices sound great, mine would be nearly identical, I do all my big rides in a shirt and sneakers, lycra and cleats are never essential. The best navigation set up i've found is an old smart phone, on week long rides ill carry two charged iphone 5's and a quadlock case both with an app called mapout, and the route .gpx saved, with offline maps and in aeroplane mode they can go for a whole day. They're also far better if you need to go off route for any reason. The only problem really, is water proofing, but ziplock bags or a newer phone will pretty much solve it. Bad luck you didnt clock the ride, those rides are never the most fun anyway.

  • @porkchop2723
    @porkchop27236 жыл бұрын

    I have the same shoes and agree they are very grippy and comfortable. A bit weird coming off clipless road pedals for first few miles.

  • @johncockburn6517
    @johncockburn65175 жыл бұрын

    Wondering if you would use the Breadwinner G-Road for the DK and how you think it compares to the Cutthroat and Waroad for this type of ride? Thanks.

  • @dwaynepedals
    @dwaynepedals4 жыл бұрын

    Good video. I like that you were rocking a flannel at the start line. Question about your gearing, what ratio were you in for the front chainring and rear cassette?

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    4 жыл бұрын

    I had a 11-40 rear and 38t front.

  • @chrisyanda8884
    @chrisyanda88845 жыл бұрын

    Titanium bottle cages are the best for keeping bottles from ejecting since they are so stiff, carbon cages are useless for that type of riding for sure. Ti cages with skateboard grip tape cut into thin strips on the interfacing surfaces keep the race bikes I work on from dropping any bottles. Interesting that in only a week you had issues with sealant drying up but not unheard of, at least with stans sealant. Switched to orange endurance formula about 2 years ago and have had great results.

  • @77bassett77
    @77bassett776 жыл бұрын

    I just installed Finnish lines new sealant it is suppose to never dry out and work as well as any other sealant on the market . So far so good but it's to early to tell on the never dry out claims I will say that it has outlasted the same amount of orange seal in the same tire and same conditions

  • @DarthJabba504
    @DarthJabba5046 жыл бұрын

    Sunblock cooling arm sleeves...try em and love em

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    Have used sun sleeves. They work better but still get icky sticking to the skin after a while.

  • @MAGAIVER
    @MAGAIVER6 жыл бұрын

    I would hate to do such a long ride without a jersey with pockets. And I feel your Garmin pains, I've had my fair share of issues with my Edge 810, it'll randomly freeze and once I hard reboot it all ride data is gone.

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Missed the pockets, but we had a ton of accessible storage on the bike.

  • @johnbouttell5827
    @johnbouttell58276 жыл бұрын

    Garmin's Law: if something can go wrong, it will go wrong.

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ha. Like that.

  • @johnhayes1641

    @johnhayes1641

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wahoo FTW!

  • @invishand3
    @invishand34 жыл бұрын

    how much electrolyte/water/food did you go thru in liters (ounces) each 50mi? i would love to do DK but have no idea what i am getting into. Ive done 100mi levee rides (here in South FL) i am used to the heat, wind, and terrible unavoidable 4" tall embedded coral-rock speed-bumps but no hills. I welcome any wisdom. My norm down here is approx 2 bottles 24oz (.7liters) per hour. But i have never done 200mi... recommend any good endurance nutrition plans or websites? One more comment/Q: i take at least 5days off before any 100mile or hard rides on the bike. I only do short easy rides to stay loose, thats it. race day i feel very fresh. The days off increase my pain threshold dramatically. It also lets my muscles store fast, ready to use energy locally in each muscle (this takes days). Did you guys give your bodies time to recover from your tough training before your 2018 ride?

  • @gardnercalibuso
    @gardnercalibuso4 жыл бұрын

    You and I wears same type of clothing. Jersey okay, but i love loose fitting ... Nice informative video bro, i plan DK 200 some day when i get stronger

  • @richardhopkins6911
    @richardhopkins69116 жыл бұрын

    I believe in an earlier video you were concerned about the stock gearing on the Cutthroats. Any issues? Would you change gearing for next year...?

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    Would prob go for a double.

  • @Telukin
    @Telukin5 жыл бұрын

    My Garmin 1030 did this recently! I went very slightly off-route, and it beeped every 10 seconds or so telling me to make weird turns to get back on track - I couldn't disable the alerts easily on the move either!

  • @jacquesconnard
    @jacquesconnard6 жыл бұрын

    Based on your recommendation and review ONLY... I have the RedShift ShockStop Stem. It's great!

  • @rotaerc4114
    @rotaerc411411 ай бұрын

    Slow leak in the back no good. 😅 I've learned that bigger(2.2"+) tire meant more air, seal .no problems. smaller tire(under 55mm) less air less time to seal, had to do more walking after I went skinnier. I'm was also running tubes

  • @RedNoah001
    @RedNoah0014 жыл бұрын

    How would Schwalbe Marathon plus tour tyres fare on the DK?

  • @fireroadie6654
    @fireroadie66546 жыл бұрын

    Love love u guys. U need a SAG. I say this with only good intentions. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER 11th hour. I have told hundreds of cycling friends over the years to never make change at the last minute and when ever they do something goes wrong. Now back to SAG if u had your own SAG u could setup gear at different checkpoints like the lights and battery charger. I ride with my wife And I have shone her how to take just what u need. Thank you for sharing your story with us. Best of luck next year 🍀🍀🍀

  • @irideaduck939

    @irideaduck939

    6 жыл бұрын

    The third time he said "changed at the 11th hour" I gave up listening. Everything leading up to the event is the preparation, the event is just the execution time.

  • @fireroadie6654

    @fireroadie6654

    6 жыл бұрын

    iride aduck Well said

  • @thatguyonabicycleofconsurv3908

    @thatguyonabicycleofconsurv3908

    6 жыл бұрын

    Fireroadie : that defeats the idea of doing this all on your own it just creates more of the character that it takes to do something like this without a sag

  • @fireroadie6654

    @fireroadie6654

    6 жыл бұрын

    I can respect that 👍

  • @phxrsx

    @phxrsx

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is an unsupported event.

  • @denniscanon1558
    @denniscanon15586 жыл бұрын

    How did you guys get back to where the race started?

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hitched a ride in with a friend of the support crew.

  • @woody65536
    @woody655365 жыл бұрын

    I just discovered the Dirty Kanza over the weekend online. I'm just a few hours away in Missouri! Are you planning on going back?

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not this year. But leaving it open for the future.

  • @thatguyonabicycleofconsurv3908
    @thatguyonabicycleofconsurv39086 жыл бұрын

    Can you give me some advice on what I should do to be able to train for this I know ride ride ride but I mean is there a training videos that they have for this type of race also my question to you is I am thinking about buying a long-haul trucker could that be converted to which means the tires and wheels 2A endurance race like this let me know I've done mountain bike racing but I no longer have a mountain bike and so I want to go with a touring bike like the Surly Long haul trucker so let me know any advice you can give me so I can do my homework so I can start the process for next year thank you very much great videos always informational and how many people actually set their bike up for bikepacking on this race

  • @noegarcia7358

    @noegarcia7358

    6 жыл бұрын

    I used the DK training guide sold on the DK site.. I also used core training along with kickboxing to help with weight loss as I am a bigger guy. I rode a Lynskey GR PRO With a 50/34 compact and a 11-36 cassette. Helped a fat guy up the hills. lol Its a mental game.. Yes training is important but I was 305lbs when I crossed the finish line, I believed I could .. so i did, just keep pedaling!

  • @_kowono
    @_kowono6 жыл бұрын

    Can't see how the sealant dried out unless it had a leak somewhere and was exposed to air. My sealant lasts 6 months (admittedly, generally colder conditions). Enjoying the Vids on DK. 👍

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    It was pretty much on a back of a van for a week in hot weather as we drove to KS from MT.

  • @TimTheMusicMan
    @TimTheMusicMan5 жыл бұрын

    Why don't you have links to all the gear you speak of ?????

  • @lawrencerose509
    @lawrencerose5095 жыл бұрын

    Hi Russ, I know this is somewhat outdated, but I recently picked up a Salsa Cutthroat Apex build at my LBS. It came with the Mavic IKON 29 x 2.2 tire. As you've said in your review, it's a very mountain bikey feel. I took it on a gravel ride yesterday, where the hills were washboarded up. I had a hard time controlling it on the downhills, bouncing all over the place with my hands slipping. Pretty scary. I had to slow way down whenever I hit the descents. Then, when I got back to pavement, particularly heading up steep climbs, it felt like I was dragging a heavy weight with those wide, nubby tires. I'm wondering if I should switch to narrower, less nubby tires, and perhaps add something like the Redshift Suspension Stem? What do you think? Thanks. Larry

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    5 жыл бұрын

    Larry, yes definitely! The stock tires are pretty heavy feeling and we ditched them pretty quickly for the sort of riding in our area. The Soma Cazaderos or something like the new Compass Antelopes would be a good replacement tire. The Redshift stem also goes a long way in making the bike more manageable on rougher terrain.

  • @lawrencerose509

    @lawrencerose509

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Russ. On the Cazaderos, would you suggest the 50's or the 42's? And what's the difference between skin wall and black wall? Is it just esthetics?

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lawrence Rose I would recommend the 50s. I'm actually haven't had a chance to test the skin wall and black version side by side. I went with the skin wall because I knew it would be pretty pliable and supple. Not sure if the black versions are the same.

  • @lawrencerose509

    @lawrencerose509

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @rrrseajay
    @rrrseajay6 жыл бұрын

    Not a recommendation to Change what works but ClubRide makes a button down commuter/casual shirt designed around cycling. Might be a good compromise.

  • @miporsche
    @miporsche6 жыл бұрын

    Respectfully, I'm still not sure why you wouldn't want to dress like the riders who finish (why give up watts in baggy clothing?). I'd try to find wind cheating clothing that are still comfortable, since even a tiny wattage loss over 18 or 20 hours is going to be important. Why not use cue cards with a bike computer, totally reliable, and use the GPS as back up? I would skip the peripherals, like HR monitors or power meters. Training, OK, but what good are they for us amateurs on the day of the event? Why not use a Camelbak for water?--wind cheating and holds plenty. I'd say it's well documented what most of the finishers do for this event. Next year, I'm using a light-weight bike (probably my Diverge), tight clothes (jersey and lycra shorts, with planned changed of clothes at checkpoints), camelbak (3.5L) plus frame cage bottles, cue card navigation, with gps as backup only, normal spd clipless pedals in comfortable mtn biking shoes for good power transfer, a high-powered pre-charged headlamp and a lighter weight battery-powered reserve headlight. I am with you on going tubeless. Just my 2 cents. I could be wrong. I'm wrong a lot. Geoff

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    I know what works for me personally. I would cook in a jersey. That’s just how my body works. I know that at about 8 hours my feet swell and I waste more time unclippjng trying to get them to not hurt than any gains in power transfer. I dont like anything on my back when riding and I’m a terrible navigator. Basically I know what works for me and what works for others and am trying to find a balance.

  • @SzalonyKucharz

    @SzalonyKucharz

    6 жыл бұрын

    Proper mesh base-layer wife beater underneath the jersey would certainly help with heat transfer and excessive moisture. And there are bum bags hydration systems worth checking out.

  • @scrooge1913

    @scrooge1913

    6 жыл бұрын

    There was a guy who finished in cargo shorts this year.

  • @Asimplecraftsman

    @Asimplecraftsman

    6 жыл бұрын

    Huh? Dude calm down. Everyone is different and he can do whatever he wants. There is no requirement that he accept your or anyone opinions. I wear Nike clothing that's primarily used for basketball and gym clothes. I personally don't care about breaking any world records, I'm sure PLP doesn't either. Biking isn't all about speed for most people its the effort and experience.

  • @Asimplecraftsman

    @Asimplecraftsman

    6 жыл бұрын

    Do you really think he was going there to actually place tho? There are many running "races" that people walk. Some people don't care about "racing" to win more of a "race to complete". Jeff I hear you as well.

  • @ABobroff
    @ABobroff6 жыл бұрын

    U sat flat pedals were a good choice but didn’t Laura have foot cramps during the DK? As someone who rides flats for mtb and road clips for road, I know after long rides my feet will hurt in flats because flats don’t have a carbon sole to support your foot. Flats have to be slightly flex in order for them to be walkable. Additionally flat pedals don’t cover the whole sole so there are lots of parts that are unsupported.

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    They were a good choice. I didn’t have any foot pain like I did with clips. Laura has always ridden in flats and usually doesn’t have any problems. It was probably more from the heat and humidity than anything.

  • @manilafixedgear2312
    @manilafixedgear23125 жыл бұрын

    I still use a EDGE 800, and every time I end up in a country for cycle training or a tour there is that doubt in my mind if the thing will work. I have had maps and routes totally delete without warning hence I always carry a spare micro sd with the data loaded. Whilst many people say the EDGE 800 was the last decent EDGE before poor battery life and software issues hit the model it has served me well all be it with a DIY screen replacement as the original died but I certainly will not be buying another Garmin unit. Every person that I know who made the switch to Wahoo has said the same.

  • @miked6706
    @miked67066 жыл бұрын

    what bar tape did yall run and did you double wrap.

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    I used the stock Salsa tape. Laura used this: tasisbikes.com/products/fatwrap

  • @gordonra17
    @gordonra174 жыл бұрын

    Just a heads up - in 2018 DK actually rerouted us the morning of and obviously couldn't send out a new route. So we were supposed to turn left early on in the day, and instead they had people flagging us to go straight for longer, and then make a left, and then we eventually got back on the route. So her garmin beeping at her was actually legit. They definitely can be finicky devices and require a bit of patience. I had my 1030 plugged into a small lipstick size external battery at the beginning. It eventually drained that and went on it's own power, finishing with over 70%. On a separate note, from a bike fitter's perspective, clipping in can be around 30% more efficient. 30% over 200 miles is huge. The amount of pedaling at Kanza is significant - there isn't a lot of coasting. So with the proper shoe fit, and making sure your cleat/pedal interface and knee tracking are dialed, clipping in becomes a significant advantage in time savings and imo, comfort. Getting to the start line at DK is a big deal. Do you think you'll try it again?

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don't think so. It was actually a rather traumatic experience looking back. Not so much the failing to complete but the constant criticisms about how we were dressed incorrectly, eating the wrong food, training wrong etc., It put in sharp relief why we like cycling (exploring and travel) and what aspects we don't (training, conforming to others view of how we should ride a bike). If anything the whole DK experience showed me how poorly represented the cycling experience is. Nearly all content and marketing is focused on competition and very few on the simple joy of riding a bike and using the bike as a means of exploring. KZread and cycling media doesn't need another person training for an event. It does need more people riding however they want to ride and being perfectly ok with it.

  • @gordonra17

    @gordonra17

    4 жыл бұрын

    ​@@PathLessPedaledTV - In looking further into the comments (never read the comments! oh wait, you're a youtube'r - you have to read and reply to play the system!) I can see your post event experience is very traumatic. I'm sorry DK has left this mark, and apologies if my comment further proved that. As a bike fitter, my job is to make people comfortable and efficient, so it "pains" me to see people in pain. Or when an individual tells me that they just thought riding wasn't supposed to be comfortable. As a woman in the industry, I've had my unfair share of mansplaining, so I apologize if that turned into womansplaining.

  • @MrSfhill
    @MrSfhill6 жыл бұрын

    What did your external GPS battery setup look like?

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    We used this Anker battery (amzn.to/2JM0BEq) and put it in the top tube bag with a short USB cable to the GPS device. Some people tape it to the bottom of their handlebars.

  • @MrJgibo1
    @MrJgibo16 жыл бұрын

    I almost got the Touring model but waited for the Edge 1030. Has been good and already got map updates. Did the heart rate show connected but no data? This has happened to me. Is related to high winds and or static build up according to their website. Got some gel and no problems anymore. I've read the human body can only process a certain amount of water an hour. On these hot days we will sweat more than we can drink. I will sweat 2 bottles an hour but only process one. So I drink when my mouth is dry or when my Garmin reminds me every 10 minutes.

  • @Thomas-fy9yc
    @Thomas-fy9yc4 жыл бұрын

    Do you need map data that badly? Is the course not marked well? I done done a couple big events, some last several days and the tech stuff was always the biggest drag, dead phones, dead lights, dead Apple watches.

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s barely marked on the course.

  • @mumtaznajeeb7200
    @mumtaznajeeb72006 жыл бұрын

    My advice for Garmin is to use it to show the route on the map. Don't use the turn by turn feature..

  • @cameratool

    @cameratool

    6 жыл бұрын

    Turning off recalculation will help Garmin stability.

  • @yellowfinendurance
    @yellowfinendurance4 жыл бұрын

    would you say DK is worth the expense of travel, hotel, etc...

  • @hardmtnbiker
    @hardmtnbiker5 жыл бұрын

    Shirts are better than jerseys, especially the thin wool shirts. I like Patagonia, Smartwool,Chrome.Kitsbow and OR.

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah not a fan of jerseys.

  • @racerx8410712
    @racerx84107124 жыл бұрын

    A friend of mine Ben Doom placed 3rd in the XL. JP placed 1st. Hes nuts.

  • @whygoogle5051
    @whygoogle50515 жыл бұрын

    My experience with Garmin is that their hardware is great -- physically, the materials, build quality, durability, etc. great; their software is anything but, though. Always been wonky with directions; I swear all they use is A* for navigation.

  • @tedder42
    @tedder426 жыл бұрын

    I've had the "tri drink holder" fall off on a paved downhill. I don't use it often, just when I need 3-4 bottles, which is rare. Love how the ELEMNT has "software crash detection" and tries to rebuild the previous ride. In the past when I've had real headaches with power on long rides I would merge the Garmin Touring data with the Wahoo RFLKT to make a full route, even if I missed some sensor data. github.com/tedder/strava-garmin-file-mergers

  • @phxrsx
    @phxrsx5 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious as to how people complete the 200 and the 350 event in one day? Shouldn't it be a multi day event with some sleeping?

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    5 жыл бұрын

    Everyone is pretty wrecked at the end for sure.

  • @radagastbrown9001

    @radagastbrown9001

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think 200 miles takes most people about 20 hours. I don't know of a 350 mile race but if it is off road it probably takes more than 24 hours for most

  • @PeerensClement
    @PeerensClement5 жыл бұрын

    Great videos, and I really enjoyed watching. Even though you didnt make it, at least you tried! Still inspiring for other people to go out and challenge themselves! I was surprised however how much conventional "wisdom" you threw out the window: in terms of clothing:a good quality, good fitting, cycling jersey will wick sweat away from your body and keep you cool. Its impossible that this is "hotter" as you say than a loose long sleeve shirt. Also the benefits of clipless pedals: i was not into them at first, but once you get the fit properly set up, you can be much more comfortable and climb easier with clipless pedals. Good luck for next time!

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    5 жыл бұрын

    All bodies are different. My body doesn't get on with jerseys.

  • @danielashleybaker
    @danielashleybaker6 жыл бұрын

    So about 100oz in 100 miles? We're you drinking water with some salt replacement?

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    I (Russ) personally went through about 200oz in the first 100 miles. I was using Tailwind. Laura was using Scratch. We were both using them at half doses.

  • @danielashleybaker

    @danielashleybaker

    6 жыл бұрын

    Path Less Pedaled In socal it goes from cool to crazy hot at some point. That first hot day is brutal. After one longish hot day I can personally get acclimated. My second day feels great. It's obviously more money/time, but some heat/humidity acclimation time would be ideal next time. 200oz sounds painful on the gut.

  • @phxrsx
    @phxrsx5 жыл бұрын

    I can't imagine trying to ride that distance without clipping in.

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's not as bad as you think. We actually toured 15k miles around the US in flats and survived :)

  • @smoothmoose
    @smoothmoose6 жыл бұрын

    I thought you normal ride 650b? Was 700c a last minute change?

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, prefer 650b but been training on the Cutthroat. Would have preferred a 650b bike but don’t have one that would have been suitable.

  • @bikebudha01
    @bikebudha016 жыл бұрын

    This is a great laundry list of 'what not to do' for a long ride. Non-clipless, non cycling gear, way way too much extra crap on strapped to the bike - no wonder you didn't finish...

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    You know. It is possible to go on long rides without clipless pedals and skinsuit. None of those is what did us in. Sorry if it’s different from what you would have done.

  • @cyclingnerddelux698
    @cyclingnerddelux6982 жыл бұрын

    Wow.

  • @troycarpenter3675
    @troycarpenter36753 жыл бұрын

    Dirty Kanza!

  • @lauraosinga5848
    @lauraosinga58486 жыл бұрын

    No jerseys? I've definitely found my people :-)

  • @RadioSnivins

    @RadioSnivins

    6 жыл бұрын

    I concur. Although, I do give loosey-goosey mountain bike jerseys a pass.

  • @Graptos

    @Graptos

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not a roadie shirt guy either, but I do like the looser fitting merino 👕 - fast trying, soft on the skin, and not nearly as stinky as some of those tech fibres.

  • @spektrumB

    @spektrumB

    6 жыл бұрын

    same here.

  • @davidruedeman9990
    @davidruedeman99906 жыл бұрын

    Shame that Garmin makes such crappy bike computers. Just sold my 820 as it had an almost unusable touch screen. In addition to all of its crashing and bugginess. However, I just ordered a 520 plus. “Some people never learn.”

  • @jmboag

    @jmboag

    6 жыл бұрын

    haha just sold my 820 too...piece of garbage, wahoo much better!

  • @thatguyonabicycleofconsurv3908
    @thatguyonabicycleofconsurv39086 жыл бұрын

    If you could have any GPS for this race what would you buy what did everybody else have what were the GPS set up that the top five winners the top five leaders what did they have for GPS

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    Many used the Wahoo or Lezyne.

  • @noegarcia7358

    @noegarcia7358

    6 жыл бұрын

    I used Wahoo Element and no problems, have had it for 6 months now and used in DK200 it worked great.

  • @dennisstempher9684
    @dennisstempher96846 жыл бұрын

    9:18 Seems like you didn't switch off the 'automatic recalculation' on the 'routing options'... rtfm ;-)

  • @StudQBeefpile

    @StudQBeefpile

    6 жыл бұрын

    I previously had the Garmin Edge Touring model, and had it set up properly, and followed every single turn prompt on the Garmin to the letter during the 2014 DK 100. Starting around ten miles after the middle checkpoint (60ish miles), it did the exact same thing to me, and started recommending turns at every single intersection. A reboot and restart of the unit and the route from where I was did nothing to eliminate the problem. I sold the Touring Plus and purchased a Garmin 820, which has been much better in general. Interestingly, around mile 65 of this year's (2018) DK 100, my 820 decided to stop providing any turn prompts as well as distances to the next turn. Garmin pushed out a firmware update the week before DK, coincidentally.

  • @dylantucker1820
    @dylantucker18206 жыл бұрын

    Hey Russ! On a review note, I thought you might like this bike and maybe try to get your hands on one to review! It's called the Thunderhawk and the supple life is strong with this! bearclawbicycleco.com/thunderhawk

  • @RafySantiago
    @RafySantiago4 жыл бұрын

    If you are looking for new great content for your channel, do a review on the RideAlert.app. It's huge in Tulsa, Salina, DFW and Columbia gravel scenes.

  • @ROBinJVILLE
    @ROBinJVILLE6 жыл бұрын

    Link that stem

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    amzn.to/2JxVrfR

  • @jacquesconnard

    @jacquesconnard

    6 жыл бұрын

    redshiftsports.com/stem

  • @ROBinJVILLE

    @ROBinJVILLE

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @jacquesconnard

    @jacquesconnard

    6 жыл бұрын

    I concur with Russ' recommendation for RedShift Stem.

  • @GuyRWood
    @GuyRWood5 жыл бұрын

    I had the Garmin Edge Touring Plus - biggest pile of donkey w*nk I've ever wasted money on. It was utterly useless. I now have the Elemnt Bolt and it's been flawless.

  • @peterm.7497
    @peterm.74976 жыл бұрын

    I''m done with tubeless after a blowout b/c I didn't perform maintenance (so yes, I'm blaming myself). Rode it over 1000 miles before the "issue". I probably broke something on my body -- I'll pull the tube's weight for now on -- oh and I don't race but if I did -- I'd use tubulars or tubeless. Tubes are set it and forget it! I like riding hipster style but have tossed the cap and the long sleeves in lieu of heat dissipation and sleeveless. For an event, or group ride, lycra is okay. For myself, there is no debate, less clothing allows for more heat dissipation. I ride a lot in winter and as the layers come off -- pedaling becomes easier -- that tugging and pulling from clothes adds more than just weight. I definitely would have used the lightest pedal/clip setup. Oh, and the electronics -- for event's I avoid at all cost -- enjoy the day! Your experience was my experience -- for me, not worth it. The navigation might be needed but the HR and power -- I'll pass (unless of course I were racing).

  • @_kowono
    @_kowono6 жыл бұрын

    I'd also be sooo hot in the t-shirt/short combo!

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'd pretty much die like a grape on a vine in a jersey.

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hectorricardovega7090 I guess I’m just a special 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @jcsrst
    @jcsrst3 жыл бұрын

    GARMIN sucks. I listen to all the people in my club complain on EVERY ride about their garmins. I love my wahoo element bolt! It has never let me down in 2 years. Don't waste your money, even the more expensive models suck.

  • @GuapoVino
    @GuapoVino5 жыл бұрын

    People are so judgmental about fashion. It's just a shirt.

  • @velo1337
    @velo13376 жыл бұрын

    no way your baggie clothing is keeping you cooler than a real high quality skin fit jersey from likes of castelli or gore

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    6 жыл бұрын

    I have tried both and I literally cook in a poly jersey. Maybe it’s because I’m brown. I know for a fact when I ride with bare arms I overheat much quicker. Wear what you like but I know what works for me.

  • @MsRotorwings

    @MsRotorwings

    5 жыл бұрын

    Path Less Pedaled I use Eddie Bauer's Guide Long sleeve shirt as my Bike Jersey. I can't stand the standard tight fitting bike jersey. The Guide shirt keeps me cool and comfortable...of utmost importance when riding. So, I get why you make your choices regarding attire.

  • @mitoda
    @mitoda5 жыл бұрын

    Can't disagree more about the Redshift Stems, I could never tell any difference and those rubber cushion will eventually give up and turns back to a regular stem. Save your money and invest on better tires or a Lauf fork instead.

  • @radagastbrown9001
    @radagastbrown90015 жыл бұрын

    I just wanted to say you seem like a great guy, I love your demeanor. But come on, you should have known 200 miles through "Dirty" Kansas, at 10 miles an hour is for endurance freaks. Good job for trying, but you had to know, that was going to be nearly impossible.

  • @PathLessPedaledTV

    @PathLessPedaledTV

    5 жыл бұрын

    We got a coach. We trained. We changed our diet. We improved. Not at as fast as we would have liked. We tried to change to the 100 but missed the deadline so we did what we signed up for. We tried our best and ONLY rode 109 miles. We weren’t the only ones that didn’t meet their goals. So tired of explaining ourselves.

  • @NaeMuckle
    @NaeMuckle5 жыл бұрын

    Nobody in a cycling jersey ever looked cool.

  • @zacharyzenteno6439
    @zacharyzenteno64394 жыл бұрын

    Flat pedals gtfo