I explain how datums and the datum reference frame work.
Жүктеу.....
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@cncdude9680 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the great content! I've been watching all of your videos for the last few months as I was promoted from Machinist to CMM Programmer. I always find myself referring back to your videos whenever I have a question. You have helped me more than you know!
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Hi! Thanks so much! I am trying to create a metrology/CMM “micro-credential” at the college I teach at for the exact situation you have achieved. I’m thrilled my videos have been helpful in your career. Please feel free to send any questions my way via comment or email.
@MrAkosFintor
10 ай бұрын
Hey there, I'm a machinist but starting a job in inspection and would like to program CMM's . Wrote some programs in Mastercam as a machinist. How is programming CMM compares to CNC? thanks
@vythinathanduraiswamy3430 Жыл бұрын
👍Excellent introductory video on Datums! Very much to the point and very comprehensible. Thank you.
@MrAkosFintor10 ай бұрын
Dean, I'm blown away by these videos! Thank you
@RDeanOdell
10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@martincacer70332 жыл бұрын
Great subjet, upgraded, expanded, and give me more vision of GD&T watching your videos. I appreciate your time and dedication.
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I always appreciate your comments.
@bobmrcs Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these videos available! I've been a student of GD&T for 40 plus years and appreciate your professionalism and getting your perspective and insight.... Great job!
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I really appreciate your feedback. I try to present the material in my own way.
@jephcatacutan25712 жыл бұрын
Thank you for what you do Dean! I learned a lot from your videos! keep it up!
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thanks so much.
@connorjones72027 ай бұрын
Just adding a comment to make sure you know your video is out here helping people become better. Thank you for your expertise.
@vor6126 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always Dean, keep up the great uploads !
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton!
@alexandersomera9974 Жыл бұрын
Dude. You are awesome. I was dreading going back and watching a year's worth of metrology courses from college to prep for an interview and you have encapsulated all the most important stuff in a night's worth of content. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and utilizing your pedagogical talents to help people learn 🙏
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks! Glad my videos were helpful!
@brytonheiselt1915 Жыл бұрын
I feel like more of a genius every new video
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thanks so much!
@akilanm559211 ай бұрын
This stuff give me hope and confidence.Thanks a lot man🙏
@user-xv7ts4jr8o4 ай бұрын
As a student who is confused and has a test tomorrow morning this is amazing help
@RDeanOdell
4 ай бұрын
Happy to help, what school are you attending?
@shankar5542 жыл бұрын
Watched few of your videos.. love it. Keep coming!
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@harwellmejia64656 ай бұрын
Excellent ! Thanks a lot, professor. This is really helpful.
@user-lx2mx6hh7d6 ай бұрын
Explained very neatly and in easy way. Thank you
@pochtronvirelune25 Жыл бұрын
Always the perfect content! Thanks a lot
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome, thanks for watching & commenting!
@AccentonComedy Жыл бұрын
Hey, great Lessons, will watch as much videos from this channel as I can throughout this month! Hope this videos will be great jumping board for learning about quality measurement.
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! Thanks so much, I think I have about 100 videos on GD&T & QC
@AccentonComedy
Жыл бұрын
@@RDeanOdell You have more than enough ;)
@nikunjkumarbhatt59042 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your contribution for the betterment of industry.
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@MukeshRajasekar Жыл бұрын
Thankyou so much enjoyed the session throughout
@joshgworks Жыл бұрын
Great video, this is super useful to bringing beginners up to speed.
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thanks!
@janardhanduda92242 жыл бұрын
Great explanation,Thank you so much. Please make more videos on gd&t.
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am working on more videos presently.
@ronconovoa75663 ай бұрын
so much info here thank you
@RDeanOdell
3 ай бұрын
Welcome!
@a.c.estudio2432 Жыл бұрын
thanks again Dr
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@nicodeusvillafranca80518 күн бұрын
This is really helpful
@richp50602 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy learning from your videos. Maybe you could make one on measuring tubes with multiple bends. I always struggle aligning tubing on my CMM with intersection points for XYZ.
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! In the next few months I will be updating my CMM videos. Can you provide any information on the parts you are measuring?
@shankar5542 жыл бұрын
In the last example you gave will it be alright to have open dim B/W datum B & D along with removing the profile control frame for datum D surface?
@itziksh3272 Жыл бұрын
Nice !
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@hann9630 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your great videos! I have a question: At the pattern example the A datum confuses me, how can it be used for position of the hole pattern if A datum is the flat base as shown on your board?
@davidraj_2129 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation sir..Thank u
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@anthonybailey65942 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@a.c.estudio24322 жыл бұрын
nice sir, thanks for the knowledge 👍
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@eartheartbaratheon791 Жыл бұрын
14:00 does the MMC need to be applied always when we're specifing a geometric tolerance to a FOS? And if not, how does it change the message?
@user-br1ob2nf1x Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video over the terminology of which datums control what? For example, if a profile can control location, size, form, and orientation, and a call out has three datums, does the primary datum control the location and orientation, the secondary controls form, and what does the tertiary control? Or if it only had two datums called out, what does it mean to the machinist or manufacturer as to what is "more important" to the designer? Form and orientation and disregard location and size? Thank you for these videos!
@alanchang0118 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your clear explanation. I think datum reference frame is the most important chapter in GD&T. I have a question about setting hole pattern as datum. As you mentioned, the measurement origin is the center of those four holes. How can I determine the orientation of this Datum Reference Frame on CMM? Can I choose any one of these holes for alignment?
@Pkstoic2 жыл бұрын
Very nice sir
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kalimuthuselvaraj88364 ай бұрын
❤
@user-ct6ot2dk9w5 ай бұрын
I have a question that can be datum located at id dimensioning, for hollow tube thanks.
@anncharlottemurigi13978 ай бұрын
At @22:15, can we say datum B is an axis at the center of the part or datum B is a mid plane in the indicated hole
@mustafahayriatl2723 Жыл бұрын
niceeee
@QwertyCanada2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, last one about multiple datums frames was a great example! I also got a question about where you talked about the pattern and how we need to use the position instead of perpendicularity for datum B, which makes sense. However how do we tell manufacturer the actual position of the pattern itself (the relative location of holes in the pattern is clear and identified, but how do we specify how much the pattern should be up and down, and do we need another DRF to make that clear to machinist?) Kind of similar question to this is figure 4.9 of 2009 standard, it's not clear where datum B is, again relative positions are specified, but how does machinist know where to drill hole B to begin with, they only know it should be perpendicular to A. Thanks, and sorry for very long question 😅
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, great question! The short answer is to think of all the of the features being relative to the pattern of holes serving as a datum. Often this is a profile with a wide tolerance for areas that mate to air. Does this help?
@QwertyCanada
2 жыл бұрын
@@RDeanOdell Yes! I Guess my conventional tolerancing mind was so used to drawings with part outside edges as datum; it makes sense now, thanks!
@nekomatajs2 жыл бұрын
Great info .Could you do one on measuring perpendicularity? Thanks
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I actually have a video about that already: GD&T Inspection: Flatness, Parallelism and Profile kzread.info/dash/bejne/daR4t5mHks7Tcrw.html
@tomascancelliere4348 Жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused. In a different datum video, you said we can't use flatness as a datum feature of size, but in this one, it is shown as an example for the middle depiction. Am I misinterpeting something? Or is there a rule that allows it?
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Hi, it the other video I was showing ways to apply datum feature symbols to indicate the datum is a surface. A flatness applied to a DMP can be used as a datum, but it is not common. It is not ideal as a primary datum, it is difficult to simulate.
@tomascancelliere4348
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Your videos are a great source of knowledge. Thank you for all your insight and explanations!!
@mathewjadamec4868 Жыл бұрын
12:45? A flatness on a feature of size? This seems more like an application for straightness. How do I inspect the flatness as you've drawn? Thanks
@learnthrivecompassion422 Жыл бұрын
Is GD&T required for CAD product design? At what stage of product design would GD&T be most useful?
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Hi, it’s not required. Some companies don’t use it at all. The thing is, the companies that do use it make it very important. It is used during the early design process in modeling parts, then in the drawing phase to document the design intent.
@learnthrivecompassion422
Жыл бұрын
The drawing phase is not preceeded by the modeling parts phase? And by modeling parts, are you referring to creating them in a CAD program typically? I ask because I want to get into product , part design in CAD, particularly Solidworks but I want to approach learning the skill methodically and systemically without jumping ahead.
@charitharanwala3 ай бұрын
How datum B became a center plane at @5.46 , it just the other surface ?
@charitharanwala
3 ай бұрын
he explained it later.@ 10.48
@godspeed11482 жыл бұрын
Can we call a datum to dimension of a hole directly.(so that the axis of the hole is the datum)
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Yes, an internal or external cylinder can be a datum feature. The axis of the actual mating envelope is the datum axis.
@godspeed1148
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and please make the video on position tolerance....
@shankar5542 жыл бұрын
Suggested topic from my side for your future videos...Let us say I have a rectangular part with a large 45 deg chamfer on one edge through which a hole is drilled. If that 45 deg(45 deg to horizontal) surface becomes my primary datum for the hole then how will my cartesian co-ordinates change & how will the basic dimension be used to locate the hole etc. Please amuse me by answering this Q.
@shankar554
2 жыл бұрын
Please do not ask me to put basic angle B/W axis of datum & the horizontal plane & provide angular geometric tolerance. I want to make sure that the chamfered surface is my primary datum for the hole so that I can ensure that hole is perpendicular to this surface.
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I would make that chamfer surface the primary datum for whatever features exist there. So you would need more than one DRF. I’ll see what I can do about a video covering multiple DRFs.
@shankar554
2 жыл бұрын
@@RDeanOdell Thank you. Will look forward for the video.
@shankar554
2 жыл бұрын
@@RDeanOdell Great! After u make the chamfered surface as your primary datum could you please locate the feature on that surface with basic dimensions. Asking this as once primary datum is set the secondary & tertiary datums are at 90 degree to it. And we provide basic dim from datums and not datum features. Please show with an example if possible.
@hemendrasharnagat5534 Жыл бұрын
Hello Sir, I have Some questions, could you please clarify it. 1. Can it is compulsory to Show secondary and Territory Datum ? when we use to show Primary Datum ? 2. Can it is compulsory to show Feature Control Frame with Datums ? 3. Why we use Datum? can tolerance on dimension only can work ? 4. The Difference of AMSE vs ISO Standard for GD&T looking forward to hear from you. Thank you!
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for your question. I ask that you watch this video first, and then let me know if there are still areas you are unclear about. Applying GD&T: 3 Basic Steps kzread.info/dash/bejne/fp51paaQnLHTYJc.html
@amolaegade542810 ай бұрын
Dear sir I also want to gain knowledge like you in the field of GD&T and become like you.....what should I do to achieve that?
@aniketshelke8796 Жыл бұрын
Your voice is same as in the max payne game
@jamestrank592822 күн бұрын
4:02 You didnt draw it on the wrong side. You position the piece backwards
@siljoshajan585027 күн бұрын
chooper
@ryaneb137010 ай бұрын
I'm still so confused. I hate adhd.
@mattadams55416 ай бұрын
Your practice part is from the Israeli Iron Dome. 😎
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Thank you for all the great content! I've been watching all of your videos for the last few months as I was promoted from Machinist to CMM Programmer. I always find myself referring back to your videos whenever I have a question. You have helped me more than you know!
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Hi! Thanks so much! I am trying to create a metrology/CMM “micro-credential” at the college I teach at for the exact situation you have achieved. I’m thrilled my videos have been helpful in your career. Please feel free to send any questions my way via comment or email.
@MrAkosFintor
10 ай бұрын
Hey there, I'm a machinist but starting a job in inspection and would like to program CMM's . Wrote some programs in Mastercam as a machinist. How is programming CMM compares to CNC? thanks
👍Excellent introductory video on Datums! Very much to the point and very comprehensible. Thank you.
Dean, I'm blown away by these videos! Thank you
@RDeanOdell
10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
Great subjet, upgraded, expanded, and give me more vision of GD&T watching your videos. I appreciate your time and dedication.
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I always appreciate your comments.
Thank you for making these videos available! I've been a student of GD&T for 40 plus years and appreciate your professionalism and getting your perspective and insight.... Great job!
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I really appreciate your feedback. I try to present the material in my own way.
Thank you for what you do Dean! I learned a lot from your videos! keep it up!
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thanks so much.
Just adding a comment to make sure you know your video is out here helping people become better. Thank you for your expertise.
Amazing video as always Dean, keep up the great uploads !
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton!
Dude. You are awesome. I was dreading going back and watching a year's worth of metrology courses from college to prep for an interview and you have encapsulated all the most important stuff in a night's worth of content. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and utilizing your pedagogical talents to help people learn 🙏
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks! Glad my videos were helpful!
I feel like more of a genius every new video
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thanks so much!
This stuff give me hope and confidence.Thanks a lot man🙏
As a student who is confused and has a test tomorrow morning this is amazing help
@RDeanOdell
4 ай бұрын
Happy to help, what school are you attending?
Watched few of your videos.. love it. Keep coming!
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
Excellent ! Thanks a lot, professor. This is really helpful.
Explained very neatly and in easy way. Thank you
Always the perfect content! Thanks a lot
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome, thanks for watching & commenting!
Hey, great Lessons, will watch as much videos from this channel as I can throughout this month! Hope this videos will be great jumping board for learning about quality measurement.
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! Thanks so much, I think I have about 100 videos on GD&T & QC
@AccentonComedy
Жыл бұрын
@@RDeanOdell You have more than enough ;)
Thank you very much for your contribution for the betterment of industry.
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
Thankyou so much enjoyed the session throughout
Great video, this is super useful to bringing beginners up to speed.
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thanks!
Great explanation,Thank you so much. Please make more videos on gd&t.
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am working on more videos presently.
so much info here thank you
@RDeanOdell
3 ай бұрын
Welcome!
thanks again Dr
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
This is really helpful
I really enjoy learning from your videos. Maybe you could make one on measuring tubes with multiple bends. I always struggle aligning tubing on my CMM with intersection points for XYZ.
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! In the next few months I will be updating my CMM videos. Can you provide any information on the parts you are measuring?
In the last example you gave will it be alright to have open dim B/W datum B & D along with removing the profile control frame for datum D surface?
Nice !
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Thanks for your great videos! I have a question: At the pattern example the A datum confuses me, how can it be used for position of the hole pattern if A datum is the flat base as shown on your board?
Great explanation sir..Thank u
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
Thanks for the info.
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
nice sir, thanks for the knowledge 👍
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
14:00 does the MMC need to be applied always when we're specifing a geometric tolerance to a FOS? And if not, how does it change the message?
Can you make a video over the terminology of which datums control what? For example, if a profile can control location, size, form, and orientation, and a call out has three datums, does the primary datum control the location and orientation, the secondary controls form, and what does the tertiary control? Or if it only had two datums called out, what does it mean to the machinist or manufacturer as to what is "more important" to the designer? Form and orientation and disregard location and size? Thank you for these videos!
Thanks for your clear explanation. I think datum reference frame is the most important chapter in GD&T. I have a question about setting hole pattern as datum. As you mentioned, the measurement origin is the center of those four holes. How can I determine the orientation of this Datum Reference Frame on CMM? Can I choose any one of these holes for alignment?
Very nice sir
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
❤
I have a question that can be datum located at id dimensioning, for hollow tube thanks.
At @22:15, can we say datum B is an axis at the center of the part or datum B is a mid plane in the indicated hole
niceeee
Thanks, last one about multiple datums frames was a great example! I also got a question about where you talked about the pattern and how we need to use the position instead of perpendicularity for datum B, which makes sense. However how do we tell manufacturer the actual position of the pattern itself (the relative location of holes in the pattern is clear and identified, but how do we specify how much the pattern should be up and down, and do we need another DRF to make that clear to machinist?) Kind of similar question to this is figure 4.9 of 2009 standard, it's not clear where datum B is, again relative positions are specified, but how does machinist know where to drill hole B to begin with, they only know it should be perpendicular to A. Thanks, and sorry for very long question 😅
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, great question! The short answer is to think of all the of the features being relative to the pattern of holes serving as a datum. Often this is a profile with a wide tolerance for areas that mate to air. Does this help?
@QwertyCanada
2 жыл бұрын
@@RDeanOdell Yes! I Guess my conventional tolerancing mind was so used to drawings with part outside edges as datum; it makes sense now, thanks!
Great info .Could you do one on measuring perpendicularity? Thanks
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I actually have a video about that already: GD&T Inspection: Flatness, Parallelism and Profile kzread.info/dash/bejne/daR4t5mHks7Tcrw.html
I'm a bit confused. In a different datum video, you said we can't use flatness as a datum feature of size, but in this one, it is shown as an example for the middle depiction. Am I misinterpeting something? Or is there a rule that allows it?
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Hi, it the other video I was showing ways to apply datum feature symbols to indicate the datum is a surface. A flatness applied to a DMP can be used as a datum, but it is not common. It is not ideal as a primary datum, it is difficult to simulate.
@tomascancelliere4348
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Your videos are a great source of knowledge. Thank you for all your insight and explanations!!
12:45? A flatness on a feature of size? This seems more like an application for straightness. How do I inspect the flatness as you've drawn? Thanks
Is GD&T required for CAD product design? At what stage of product design would GD&T be most useful?
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Hi, it’s not required. Some companies don’t use it at all. The thing is, the companies that do use it make it very important. It is used during the early design process in modeling parts, then in the drawing phase to document the design intent.
@learnthrivecompassion422
Жыл бұрын
The drawing phase is not preceeded by the modeling parts phase? And by modeling parts, are you referring to creating them in a CAD program typically? I ask because I want to get into product , part design in CAD, particularly Solidworks but I want to approach learning the skill methodically and systemically without jumping ahead.
How datum B became a center plane at @5.46 , it just the other surface ?
@charitharanwala
3 ай бұрын
he explained it later.@ 10.48
Can we call a datum to dimension of a hole directly.(so that the axis of the hole is the datum)
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Yes, an internal or external cylinder can be a datum feature. The axis of the actual mating envelope is the datum axis.
@godspeed1148
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and please make the video on position tolerance....
Suggested topic from my side for your future videos...Let us say I have a rectangular part with a large 45 deg chamfer on one edge through which a hole is drilled. If that 45 deg(45 deg to horizontal) surface becomes my primary datum for the hole then how will my cartesian co-ordinates change & how will the basic dimension be used to locate the hole etc. Please amuse me by answering this Q.
@shankar554
2 жыл бұрын
Please do not ask me to put basic angle B/W axis of datum & the horizontal plane & provide angular geometric tolerance. I want to make sure that the chamfered surface is my primary datum for the hole so that I can ensure that hole is perpendicular to this surface.
@RDeanOdell
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I would make that chamfer surface the primary datum for whatever features exist there. So you would need more than one DRF. I’ll see what I can do about a video covering multiple DRFs.
@shankar554
2 жыл бұрын
@@RDeanOdell Thank you. Will look forward for the video.
@shankar554
2 жыл бұрын
@@RDeanOdell Great! After u make the chamfered surface as your primary datum could you please locate the feature on that surface with basic dimensions. Asking this as once primary datum is set the secondary & tertiary datums are at 90 degree to it. And we provide basic dim from datums and not datum features. Please show with an example if possible.
Hello Sir, I have Some questions, could you please clarify it. 1. Can it is compulsory to Show secondary and Territory Datum ? when we use to show Primary Datum ? 2. Can it is compulsory to show Feature Control Frame with Datums ? 3. Why we use Datum? can tolerance on dimension only can work ? 4. The Difference of AMSE vs ISO Standard for GD&T looking forward to hear from you. Thank you!
@RDeanOdell
Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for your question. I ask that you watch this video first, and then let me know if there are still areas you are unclear about. Applying GD&T: 3 Basic Steps kzread.info/dash/bejne/fp51paaQnLHTYJc.html
Dear sir I also want to gain knowledge like you in the field of GD&T and become like you.....what should I do to achieve that?
Your voice is same as in the max payne game
4:02 You didnt draw it on the wrong side. You position the piece backwards
chooper
I'm still so confused. I hate adhd.
Your practice part is from the Israeli Iron Dome. 😎