GC Battle Explodes In High Mountains Of The Queen Stage! | Tour De France 2023 Highlights - Stage 17
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Highlights from stage 17 of the Tour de France 2023. A brutal day in the Alps with over 5000m of elevation gain across 165.7km of racing. The Col des Saisies, Cormet de Roselend and Côte de Longefoy precede the Col de la Loze (28.1km at 6%) - the highest point of this year's race - before a 6km descent and short 18% rise to the line at Courchevel altiport.
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Jonas is just unstoppable this TDF. (They still have to do something to regulate the crowds, idiotic they haven’t done something yet.)
@dorseykindler9544
11 ай бұрын
I was cheering on the side of Alpe d’Huez in ‘04. It was crazy, but nobody ran out in the road and actively blocked the riders. What a mess.
@davidfernandez9791
11 ай бұрын
People are 🐒🐒🐒
@cancerparty
11 ай бұрын
They've never needed controls before. Crowds used to respect the riders. Now it's all about them (spectators).
@xcountrykid
11 ай бұрын
Only regular issues I’ve seen have been all the motos and cars on the road. Don’t block fans access just so unnecessary vehicles can clog the roads.
@daviddwight5745
11 ай бұрын
Put a group b rally car through first😜
As a Dane I’m rooting for Vingegaard, but heartbreaking to see Pogacar’s meltdown today.. He is such a likable person, and love the close competition between these two rivals .. Hope he will come back strong next year for some more close action 🤞
@birthekristensen813
11 ай бұрын
Enig 💛💛
@theRealDavidn
11 ай бұрын
100%
@lllaxemenlll
11 ай бұрын
The disruption to preparation the last two years is probably frustrating. Hopefully we get to see them go head to head next year, both in amazing form.
@martinf213
11 ай бұрын
@@lllaxemenlllincl Evenepoel
@charlesfosterkane8034
11 ай бұрын
He didn't know which bicycle to ride n the ITT. Hopefully, he will get more serious.
Felix Gall really deserved that stage win. Great job
They really need to start cracking down on crowd interference at the Tour. As long as they keep tolerating it, it's only a matter of time until teams start using it at a "tactic"
@LednacekZ
11 ай бұрын
i suggest a snow plow. that would split the crowd
@henkkoonstra4014
11 ай бұрын
scythed motars
@xcountrykid
11 ай бұрын
I only saw moto and car interference today. Maybe you want the whole race to be sterilized like Puy De Dome? No thanks.
@brianstockwell4069
11 ай бұрын
Bradley tank..........
@steveeb9567
11 ай бұрын
Water cannon.
Gall and Zimmermann are my heroes. I am curious about their development the next years. Pogi, great sportsmanship and much sympathie like always.
@monkey2.092
11 ай бұрын
Pogacar vs. Gall vs. Cano vs. Skjelmose There are some really good young riders. They will be fun to watch in future Tours.
@hurricanehorst2266
11 ай бұрын
@@monkey2.092Hopefully
@Fyr35555
11 ай бұрын
Lots of names potentially able to step up. Gall Cano Skjelmose as already mentioned, at UAE there is not only Pogacar but also Juan Ayuso. Riccitello and Brenner two names worth keeping on your radar, Lenny Martinez already seems to be stepping up and I expect Uitjdebroecks to do the same. If Pidcock continues his progression and figures out his feeding issues then he can be a big feature of GC battles too!
@seacactus1346
11 ай бұрын
@@Fyr35555 Lenny Martinez is very underrated, he's gonna do big things the way he's progressing
Vingegård was asked on the Danish news whether he understood the social media questioning his performance in regard to doping. His answer was pretty straight ;- Yes, he understood it well and feels that people should continue to question the performances of any rider in the future to come. He clearly stated that he wasn´t on any illegal substances and believed the tour to be "clean" this year, one shouldn´t however be naive enough to think that doping is solely a thing of the past.
@dhanyrafael
11 ай бұрын
Doping evolves with technology/// We will find about today's methods in the next 5 to 10 years///
Jonas is honestly on a whole other level this year.
@nem3th
11 ай бұрын
Jonas getting better stage by stage, while others are empty.
@neilberry1552
11 ай бұрын
💉💉
@BMK84
11 ай бұрын
@@neilberry1552 On stage 15 Pogi broke Froom's record from 2015 on Le Bettex. Did you cry "💉💉" that day too? I guess not. Stop being a fanboy.. Jonas is getting tested every day. People like you don't know anything, but spread evil rumors just because the one you are cheering for, isn't in the lead... Its sad.
@Cubeforc3
11 ай бұрын
He's found another gear
@odessaibanez230
11 ай бұрын
he's incredible
Gutted for Tadej! Jonas is on another level! Come back stronger Tadej! 💪
@mrsportschampion5796
11 ай бұрын
Jonas is on another dope.
@OleJacobsen-jh6qt
11 ай бұрын
@@mrsportschampion5796idiot
@PopCykolMotoPH
11 ай бұрын
@@mrsportschampion5796 mount ventoux saw a glimpse how jonas will dominate the next two years when he crack tadej on climb but lost on descent..
"I'm gone.I'm dead." that was hearthbreaking one.
@CaminoCarpet
11 ай бұрын
For only some fans, elation for other fans
@AnonymousCezzar
11 ай бұрын
@@CaminoCarpet Actually I'm not a fan of TP or JV but I wish their rivalry lasted longer.
@MrBasjunk
11 ай бұрын
@@CaminoCarpet no, Im danish so I cheer for Vinegaard obviously. But I still like Pog and everybody does. The danish commentators also said during the race "this is heartbreaking" Pog is a great champion and has a great personality.
@christophermatarese4982
11 ай бұрын
@@CaminoCarpet I'm a big JV fan, but still heartbreaking to hear those words. Definitely not elation. While I was rooting against TP, I wasn't rooting for an injury or total collapse. I was rooting for nother Stage 16 outcome, where JV blows TP away, but TP still but on an amazing performance.
@otteottema6839
11 ай бұрын
Tadej is a great cyclist. In the TT he was more than 1:30 faster than all the rest but Jonas. I thank both for the exiting time they gave us.
I was rooting for Jonas, but did not like how this tour ended with Tadej collapsing completely. I wanted a close race until Saturday with Jonas winning by a few seconds. Tadej is a super cool guy, and did not deserve to go down this way.
@chelsm90
11 ай бұрын
Usually happens at some point just happened a few stages later then it usually does with T trying to break J. J letting T spend all his energy so T ran out of steam
@dennisdevelin
11 ай бұрын
But that is the name of the game in every TDF..... The one that is the strongest over 3 weeks will win! We have just had the best tour for decades. All hail thís years king Vingo! And sallute to Poggi for the ride of the ages! Next year these two beast will stunn us all again!
@simonjrgensen6761
11 ай бұрын
Jonas destroyed him. Quite literally.
@theRealDavidn
11 ай бұрын
Same here - Both riders are great guys. Hope Pogi comes back stronger next year
@Stuy_B
11 ай бұрын
Pog not had the racing foundation as jonas did and also off bike with broken wrist ...it is what it is...he would've been better targeting the veulta
😭 As a Pogačar fan, this stage stole my soul.
@esbentronstrm4154
11 ай бұрын
He aint the Best sorry to say i love the fight these 2 have but , when poggy gets stressed for weeks his form decline , for that i Think he might fo for a Giro and Vuelta , And making the tdf borring again
@JJ_Photo
11 ай бұрын
He will be back. But he is - as he said it - dead, for now. Normally I would say Pog is a better rider than Jonas overall. But Jonas just handles heat and long pressure so much better right now. And the time trial showed also a better technique. He stayed on the TT bike. He was not flying around on the bike uphill. And downhill - never seen a rider with this technique. The way he took the corners. The way he placed himself on the road. Perfection. I think this surprised Pog more than we know.... And today he just gave up. It happens.... Next year will maybe be totally different. But what a TdF this year!
@NosyNorseman
11 ай бұрын
Even a guy from Denmark felt sad about Pogi… but he’s not all in on the TDF as Jonas.. he peaks twice (classics) and jonas once TDF.
@esbentronstrm4154
11 ай бұрын
@@NosyNorseman why i Think he might Got for Giro Vuelta and Making the tdf borring again
@perhaar
11 ай бұрын
@@NosyNorseman I guess Pogi did not peak in TDF 2022/23
As a Dane I support Vingegaard but Pogačar is such a trooper. I really respect the honorable fight he put up. Vingegaard is just on another level. The TT yesterday was a mind blowing demonstration of power. I have never seen anything like it.
Jonas just showed us who is boss on this TDF he is on another level this year.....Congratulations..💪👏
Jonas is tops and he is to be champion - I'd be celebrating. Little bit sad for pogacar, it was such a close match just stage 16 did him. He could try to retain second spot as he seems a bit demoralised. Adam yates has a chance on no 2.
Thanks for this - watched the stage live but its nice to have a good summary
What a fighter Pogacar !! Takes a lot to admit that he didn’t have anything left and couldn’t pedal anymore. I hope he comes back with a vengeance hard and strong next year.
@krellejenbo
11 ай бұрын
What Else would he have said?
@SrBlackJack
11 ай бұрын
What else is he supposed to say, everyone could see it lmao too much dick riding
@khalenarizabal3552
11 ай бұрын
Not yet done! they will cracked Jonas the last 4 stages
@POS36
11 ай бұрын
@@krellejenbo he could have blame the crash, blame the weather, blame his team mates but he didn’t. Took it like a real man and admitted during the race “I’m gone, I’m dead”
@POS36
11 ай бұрын
@@khalenarizabal3552 I hope so too, but a 7+min lead is equivalent to a 3seconds gap during a 100m track sprint. We need to be realistic.
Jumbo Visma, what a team!!
Vingegaard is just an Alien 💪🔥
Proper Terminator vibes from Vingegaard this tour. Utterly inevitable.
the gaps in top ten are ridiculous
@kgarg92
11 ай бұрын
It was worse last year and a year before that
@neilberry1552
11 ай бұрын
Something going on and not just training methods
@claybishop3791
11 ай бұрын
Some have better chefs. 😅
@willekewk
11 ай бұрын
@@kgarg92maybe but maybe some are just better
@davemathew
11 ай бұрын
The superior cervelo aerodynamics?😅
The brutality of cycling ❤
What a thrashing. Jonas well and truly has Tadej's number.
Another motorbike in the way, what a surprise
Felix Gall did a great job today!!!!
Thank you for the extended highlights!!
I'm not a huge Vingegaard fan, however, you can't help but respect the guy after yesterday and today's stages.
@eliasbergman7961
11 ай бұрын
Whhyyyy not
good win. congratulations Jonas
Also with all the motorbike issues drones might be a good idea for these mountain stages.
@mracer8
11 ай бұрын
Without the motorbike. What is going to try and keep the crowd on the side of the mountain top from getting even worst? Predator Drone?
@martinsmith3354
11 ай бұрын
@@mracer8 It'd be a start👍
@robinbeckford
11 ай бұрын
@@mracer8 Commisaire's cars stay just ahead of groups of riders - with wide bull bars!
@metamon2704
11 ай бұрын
never going to happen the motorbikes will always be there, there is no other solution other than not allowing the spectators on the road.
@mracer8
11 ай бұрын
@@metamon2704 shut down and put 3000km of barrier on public road might be a bridge too far
The TDF needs to ger these fans in check. God damn. Yellow Jersey just in a stand still during a climb is outrageous. But congarts to Jonas on the probable win. Pogi fought well tho.
@epincion
11 ай бұрын
The standstill was due to a stalled moto which then fell over on its side which in turn blocked the referee's car and all on a narrow single lane wide road. It was not really due to the crowds.
The Tour De France organisation needs to get their s*** together. There are so much Chaos with cars, spectators and motorbikes. Luckily a incident like that has not decided the tour, but it is only a matter of time..
Excellent pronunciation. Vingegaard (aa=å). 👌💪
@johnvanhal2450
11 ай бұрын
Very rare, yes. While it isn't a great effort to prepare yourself properly , yet very few seem to have any interest.
@user-pe3bp2fb9z
11 ай бұрын
Pogacar is young.He will come stronger next year. Vingegaard feel it.
@swagbag1835
11 ай бұрын
Like good cheese and wine. Takes time. 😇 Crazy few months Gall is having since the tour de suisse. Vingegaard wanted it all today, but it proved too costly and he wisely "settled".. Nobody was catching Gall at that point.
@Fyr35555
11 ай бұрын
Rob Hatch is generally the best commentator for those listening into the English broadcast when it comes to pronouncing names imo, although he does over-pronounce sometimes.
Congratulations Jonas for winning the Tour de France 2023! He executed his strategy to perfection. He wisely conserved his energy for two weeks, doing just enough to keep ahead of Tadej. Jonas waited patiently for Tadej to eat into his slim lead advantage, just sticking to Tadej during races. After luring Tadej with a false sense of hope that the rivalry is closely matched, Jonas finally fired his big guns with a dominating time trial and a massive climbing effort in stage 17, ending up with a 7-minute advantage. What a tactical battle this tour has been, Jumbo-Visma executing their team strategy to perfection. Jonas playing the long strategy to the end when it really mattered. He indeed showed he is the strongest rider of them all, a worthy champion and a sign of things to come.
@CaminoCarpet
11 ай бұрын
Tadej spent too much energy yapping and teasing his opponents and other riders with his mouth :-)
@Fyr35555
11 ай бұрын
Energy conservation definitely has played a part but I would not rule off illness / lack of preparation due to his injury as the decisive factor in the last couple of stages. Then again Vingegaard just seems to be on another level regardless, maybe it wouldn't have mattered either way...
@davidfernandez9791
11 ай бұрын
I had that sensation after yesterday stage. He always said the team had a plan. They played the tactic to perfection.
Gostaria de saber qual critério é usado para dispor as equipes para a etapa?
Felix Gall ✌👍
Pas de spectateurs ivres sur la chaussée *s'il vous plaît*
Boom
Remember this kid underwent surgery just 3 months ago. To be within a minute till week 3 is amazing. Tough dude.
Excellent first time/stage win Felix
In two days we went from a rare close gap between top 2 to a unusually big one. Not even Froome's boring wins had such a margin. Amazing.
@donnastoner7010
11 ай бұрын
Boring wins!!! Right??!!!!! Ugh! Thanks to Sagan for making it interesting through that time. I loved the time Froome and Sagan went ahead and Froome tryed to out sprint him at the end. Sagan.... nope!
BREAKING NEWS: Tadej Pogačar revealed to be human
@fabricebar5036
11 ай бұрын
Not vingegaard!😁
@xkingofnuthinx
11 ай бұрын
@@fabricebar5036 Vinge is juiced AF
@setlhabanesquiremoseamo1719
11 ай бұрын
@@xkingofnuthinxWhy do you say that?
@simonjrgensen6761
11 ай бұрын
@@setlhabanesquiremoseamo1719 Because he is a Pogacar fanboy cry baby
@nomdaploom
11 ай бұрын
@@setlhabanesquiremoseamo1719 Probably because the sport of pro-cycling has multiple instances of just that over many, many years?
Nice my idol vinge💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Team Jumbo Visma had an effective strategy and Vinny is proving that he is the greatest rider in Tour de France for 2 years in a row. I love Pog and I feel bad for him, I want him to win but Jonas is the man. The crowd control though, we are on 109th year of the race, yet the organizer still fail to control those euphoric and ecstatic fans(but not all behave well and intelligently) that causes accidents resulting in minor to race-abandoning injuries to the poor riders.
Maravilhoso. Pena que acabou cedo demais !
@claudiaionescu1661
11 ай бұрын
😍 😌 RESPECT...... ✨✨✨✨✨.... 🕊️💪🕊️
We were there! I like to think my yelling COME ON YATESY helped Simon with his p4 overall. He did a double take when he heard my Brit accent 😂
Sepp Kuss broke that race wide open at 3:13. That move broke Pogacar. I hope he gets a GC ride. Well done young man, well done!
That is the name of the game in every TDF..... The one that is the strongest over all 3 weeks will win! We have just had the best tour for decades. All hail to thís years king Vingo! A nd sallute to Poggi for the ride of the ages! Next year these two beast will stunn us all again!
Jonas you done it you do your job very very well quitelly killing your rival 😂😂😂God job jonay
gli unici a non accorgersi dei campanelli di allarme che annunciavano la debacle di pogacar sono stati i vari telecronisti. la crisi di pogacar era nell'aria già prima della crono ad un paio di tappe. nella crono si è manifestata che però vista la brevità della tappa 22Km ha tamponato il problema. oggi è arrivata la crisi in tutta la sua potenza.
sad to annually see these comments doubting a champion's integrity and honor, accusing one of cheating for the fact they are winning.
@epincion
11 ай бұрын
Its comments by the usual list of losers
@DarylGriffiths
11 ай бұрын
I've not seen a single comment doing that.
@seacactus1346
11 ай бұрын
@@DarylGriffiths it's really bad on the tour de France accounts Instagram posts, guess all the keyboard warriors moved over there
@johnwestwell2241
11 ай бұрын
Have a look at yesterday’s post-stage comments.
@KnowIt74
11 ай бұрын
I agree. They are not aware that Jonas as a junior rider was a very special rider.
Vingegaard 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
Tks BigFan
Hats off to Pogi, clear now he had nowhere near enough preparation to win this year. He could've rolled round and gone for stages yet the racer in him just wanted to push for final victory ✌️
Felix Gall das erste mal bei der tour und schon einmal Träger des Bergjersy und jetzt sogar die Etappe gewonnen 🫵💪👍sehr Gail
I love Pogi, but congratz to Jonas !
wow
Pogi has a cold sore at the edge of his mouth. That could indicate that his immune system is way down. It could also indicate that Pogi may suffer from a virus or other infection which, if getting worse, could result in him having to abandon the race. Hopefully, that will not be the case, but Pogi is definitely not his usual self at the moment. I cannot recall that Pogi has collapsed so seriously before. Jonas seems to be on a different level this year.
@SteveNinetyski
11 ай бұрын
He's been nobbing the Romanian hotel girls after the stages probably and got a bout of the old herpes. He's only young so can't blame him.
@kasperrieberg3495
11 ай бұрын
Pogi is not ill
What’s the bike trainer used by Alpecin? Any lead is greatly appreciated
Terbaik lah Jonas, Bagi Poggy kipidap dongibab
It would've been an insult to cycling had Pogacar won the TdF this year. Already peaking in the early season in march at Paris Nice and destroying MvdP and WvA in RvV, casually grabbing AGR and LFW on the way to LBL. Breaking his wrist and having a limited preparation to the TdF. Just, no. Stop the bullshit claims that Vingegaard is doping. There's no way Jumbo Visma would fall in the same trap again after Rasmussen. Jonas dedicates his cycling season to be in peak form at the TdF. Tadej doesn't.
@otto0363
11 ай бұрын
You’re one of the only sensible people I’ve seen on social media past two days, god bless you sir
@dannydefe
11 ай бұрын
Yes you 're a believer!!!
@ClayCourtGuy
11 ай бұрын
Agreed. It was a breath of fresh air when Floyd Landis destroyed Lance.
@generynkewicz4871
11 ай бұрын
He's on something for sure. Not even tired at the end of the TT and this stage. It's clearly not normal. He's so far ahead of everyone, just like Lance was. So.......................
@neilberry1552
11 ай бұрын
@@generynkewicz4871agree 100% along with pogacar. Its not training been ahead of everyone that much
When the ear-piece comes out, you've cracked big time.
When the elastic snaps, it snaps big.
Jeez- I’ve never seen anything like this.
Smartphones an Social Media are what's causing the crowd to behave like this! If you have been to a concert, used public transport or people walking their dog lately you know what I mean!
Julian Alaphilippe hasn’t had any tactical nouse this TDF. He has made attempts at breakaways but it’s though he’s thinking “if I’m on tv that’s enough”. Not sure if it will endear him to Patrick Lefevere or secure his contract.
@johnwestwell2241
11 ай бұрын
He’s rumoured to be moving to Total Energies, replacing Peter Sagan. You’d hope he does a bit more than Sagan for the team.
Feels like TP already hit his limit while jones still improving
Tadej might be sick. That fall off of performance is not normal.
@sutsut5157
11 ай бұрын
He is clearly isn't ready for this TDF because he suffered an injury prior to TDF. He is on top form but Jonas is another level.
@SrBlackJack
11 ай бұрын
Jonas proved to be more resilient
@westboundbadger
11 ай бұрын
@@sutsut5157 His performance is also not normal.
@k4z1m.ogm3n
11 ай бұрын
Good point because I ve realised he had a cold sore on his upper lip suggesting herpes virus ( not dormant anymore) situation.. In other words, his immune system not great at the moment.
@darkiee69
11 ай бұрын
@@k4z1m.ogm3n That goes for every rider in TdF right now. You don't punish yourself like that without consequences. Their bodies are breaking down from repeated strain.
Shame to see Pog blow up on that last climb. Lack of prep has finally caught up with him
I'm selling my Colnago for Cervelo. Lol!
Wow
gall will be like jonas in years to come
Hebat 👍
shoudl just have a lead car with a battering ram attached to it at this point. ridiculous crowd behavior
Go Pog ❤
Oh my god the spectators were obnoxious… they SAW the riders stop and continued to surge forward to block their ways. Wtf is wrong with them.
Jonas is the fastest two legged race horse... and a phenomenal climber 🏇🚴♂️🦵🦵
3:47 OMG!
Congratulations, Gall! Congratulations, Vingegaard! Pogicar broke. I can't believe it. Pogicar had such a successful season before this race, he has no reason to feel down about anything. I like it when racing is more competitive like this.
@cuebj
11 ай бұрын
The very active and successful early season ending in a broken wrist is the reason he can't match Jonas. He could beat all other riders (he is doing so as he is still 2nd) but Jonas is too good a GT rider for Pog to continue having fun in other races. Pog still best all round road racer in world but Vin not distracted by lesser races (TdF represents vast proportion of global cycling awareness and income)
@bikeyclown4669
11 ай бұрын
@@cuebj That's a great summary of Pogicar's current circumstances. If he hadn't broken his wrist, he might have won this Tour, but I'm not totally certain. Vingegaard has had superb form. That time trial was a brilliant display of superior power. It has been fun to watch them scrap with each other.
Jonas (veni,vidi,vici) Vinegaard 👊🤛🤜👊🤛✊️✊️🤜.
What's all this "queen stage" stuff? We started watching the tour back in 1997 and we were talking about this whilst watching the itv highlights last night; neither of us can remember ever hearing reference to it before...
Well guess Tadej went flat out yesterday in the TT and he had nothing left in the tank for today’s stage. Still kudos to him for making this TDF exciting. Respect.
@cuebj
11 ай бұрын
No. He's looked unnaturally pale for several days. The effects of the broken wrist are catching up in lost resilience for a 3-week slugfest. Two years ago he could ride with carefree abandoned win one-day races and TdF. Last year, Jonas appeared and the became focused on TdF. Pog could beat everyone else in GT while also doing the other races. Vin (who doesn't do the other stuff) is his match at GT, especially with the emphasis on monster mountains. So Pog will have to reign in his non-GT racing for fun if he wants to beat Vin at GT
Can gall tt?
That last climb should be illegal, jeez 😱
Better Pogacar focus the 24 season on Le Tour of he wants to win it again. About this years, I think its clear Jumbo played with Pogacar for two weeks and then droped the hammer.
🇫🇷 ✌️👍🏼
How I can participate in tour de France
No explosion, that was yesterday. Today, just a deflation.
1:00 Background music anyone?
I have not been impressed with the behaviour of the crowds this year!
Courcheval??
You don't show the arrivings on the summits. Too bad .
This TdF is so brutal and cruel. Opening up with already gc contenders battle instead of nice sprinters stage, brutal 22km hilly TT, and a hellish mountain right after that? Damn
Why is Pogacar being counted out already at this stage? Is it because the next stages are mostly downhill/ flats?
Too bad about the crash...Pogi looking to feeling the earlier season crash too. Pity the GC race is over...
Bernal is riding in this tour?
@kasperrieberg3495
11 ай бұрын
Yes
History, before our eyes. Are we not entertained?😂🎉😮
@leonardo3399
11 ай бұрын
Huh?
Will be a Merckx type era final result sheet this Year .
@langsjoen
11 ай бұрын
more like Lance era
@sandydennylives1392
11 ай бұрын
Except that Pog was Merckx in the spring.
@JonathanvG-wj1ro
11 ай бұрын
@@langsjoen Go cry in a corner.
@MikeAG333
11 ай бұрын
@@langsjoen Is that an accusation of doping? If so, be man enough to come out and say so. Oh, and provide some evidence.
@justaguyonabike2055
11 ай бұрын
@@MikeAG333 Langsjoen doesn't have the balls :)
I'm gutted for pogacar his legs weren't there. Well done to Jonas though.
This is cycling guys. Whenever emotion gets the best of you, that's it.
To all the doubters and conspiracy theorists, Pogacar's VO2max is 89ml per kg. Miguel Indurain's was 95, Vingegaard's was 97 when he was just 17 years old. This is probably the highest level ever in cycling and may be even higher now he has developed more and just goes to show that Vingegaard is a pretty unique ''Unicorn'' specimen, not a product of doping. Pogacar himself is pretty unique in being able to win Grand tours, Monuments, Time Trials and Cyclocross and he is more explosive on steep ramps and a better sprinter than Vingegaard so it is not all one sided. Tadej has all the tools but is sometimes a little gung ho and tactically naive. Plus Jumbo are stronger and more disciplined than UAE at the moment. I am a massive fan of Tadej and believe that he will come back stronger and hopefully smarter and if so then this could be a new golden age like the Coppi / Bartali period. Vingegaard could be the spur that Pogacar needs to achieve true greatness. Vingegaard is not the new Merckx, lets hope Pogacar is not the new Poulidor. Just a shame that barring a disaster the tour is already decided and there's no Cav to win in Paris.
@jobserboy
11 ай бұрын
Where are you getting those vo2 numbers from
@hipster-somme977
11 ай бұрын
What, would that be the drugs cheat Merckx?
@briseboy
11 ай бұрын
Said any of you, swilling energy dtinks.
@neilparnell5712
11 ай бұрын
@@jobserboy Just google it and you can find them. I personally have followed cycling for a good while and have read these figures in articles over the years. I can't provide any proof they are correct, but Miguel, Jonas and Tadej's performances would suggest that they are outliers beyond even the already phenomenal level of most professional cyclists.
@neilparnell5712
11 ай бұрын
@@hipster-somme977 I am aware that Merckx failed drug tests - I think it was on 3 occasions.. I Hope that with all the testing going on that they are clean. Just that everyone young and spectacular is at some point touted as the ''New Merckx'' so I understand the veiled implication of drug use and this was the intention of the statement that he is not the new Merckx.
Tadej carshed in spring and missing some days of race. Simple as that. He'll be back next year.