Your beard is out of gauge for the beard as it should appear on July 28th 1983 in Knobjocketsley Colliery shunters' bothy near Kendal.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Pinned comment😂😂😂

@alanwagstaff16

5 ай бұрын

And his cap is the wrong shade of brown 😂

@andrewcalladine2507

5 ай бұрын

Lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@sparkshot

5 ай бұрын

😆👍

@nigelericogden3200

5 ай бұрын

I noticed that too

Railway modelling is a hobby done for enjoyment and relaxation so the old saying "my railway my rules" is something we should all respect. So refreshing, you have given me a great big smile!!!

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Exactly mate, a well made model is one thing, a thing to be appreciated but, not at the cost of enjoyment! Thanks for watching!

@SpringCottageModelRailway

5 ай бұрын

I even saw a comment that rule 1 is just an excuse for mistakes! 🤦🏼‍♂️ I hope it was tongue-in-check but you never know…

@michaelquinones-lx6ks

4 ай бұрын

@@IronHorseRailways DITTO! I SECOND THAT! And, greetings from the U.S.A.

The best piece of advice I was ever given related to model railways was "ignore the rivet counters, the only person who has to like your layout is you". They don't have to look at it, you do, so do what makes you happy. And if you want to have a model railway that runs American, Aussie, British, German, Japanese and anything else that makes you happy... do it! And if you do want to shut the rivet counters up, it's easy "I'm modelling a fictional railway preservation museum, so what relevance does the prototype have to this?"

Totally agree about gatekeepers. I had a train set when I was younger but had a dream of building a layout. Now I am a pensioner that's what I am doing. It so far has grown from a table top to spare bedroom and is moving into the loft! It's going to be good enough for me and my grandchildren to enjoy. It's fun! The rivet counting purists have their place but I won't be joining them as I will be too busy playing trains!

I had this feeling many years ago, over 30 to be honest, pre internet. I joined a club because I wanted to be a part of something, to be able to share, except some of the members would only build brass kits locomotives and stock, EM or S4/P4 gauge, at the time I was on a budget, a young family so couldn’t afford such luxury modelling. My own buildings were budget, mostly scratch built from raw, simply because I couldn’t afford it. In the club time, it felt elitist, as if only a few particular modellers could actually build something that was going to go on the layout, plus the atmosphere felt cliquey. I only lasted a few visits, and never bothered again. As someone on this thread said, RMweb is full of gatekeepers, and the feeling came back to me in an instant. Sometimes, I want to run my Triang Dock shunter, the one that never existed, I remember getting mocked for fitting finer scale wheels on a Jinty, but I wanted to run that old loco on modern track (at that time) the model slowly morphed over the years anyway, it did become a nicely detailed Johnson 1f.

@colinhenry3551

5 ай бұрын

I went through exactly the same thing many years ago ,thought I would join the local model railway club and felt very alienated,and as you say there was a definite clique,after a couple of weeks I stopped going ,as a beginner I felt completely out of my depth, I am retired now and want to start my first railway ,I think I will manage on my own through watching KZread channels,even though there is a club not far away from me , And honestly ! ,the individuals on line who put down everything people do just get a kick out of it I think,they probably haven't even got a model railway or the skills involved to make anything except bad remarks, I have had various hobbies in my life time and you always get someone who has done it all and actually done nothing ,

@jetmec

4 ай бұрын

I fitted a Dcc chip and added a driver to my dockyard shunter, I would be running it now, but it blew its chip and being overseas It's hard to get a replacement chip, so it may get put back to DC operation

@krazytroutcatcher

4 ай бұрын

@@colinhenry3551 I can understand various perspectives of a clique, one where you see an established group of modellers, maybe having known each other for decades, with a newcomer seeing them as intimidating, maybe with a little of an inferiority complex, maybe a little anxious, nobody wants to learn anything when there’s an element of snobbery there. It makes me wonder if model Railway clubs should do some kind of tutorials, not necessarily working on their layouts, but maybe where a complete novice could build a railway related diorama, or structure of their own choosing, with assistance and advice. All I have ever experienced, and like you, is alienation. At the moment I have no layout, just a test track, a small 18” square diorama, and built, finished detailed models waiting placement on a layout, and display cases with OO gauge locos and stock. I’ve had a 20 year gap, I tried getting into 18.83 gauge, but found it extremely time consuming, temperamental too, difficult to get good running.

@leschapman3268

4 ай бұрын

Very similar experiance to my own! I left a local club after only a few visits, and don't really have much contact with any one within our fantastic hobby. Lets not forget that the "Rivet counting" experts are the ones pushing the realism levels for new models to a price beyond many peoples pocket!

@MrStabby19812

4 ай бұрын

Run what you want. I'd hate to hear what people think of my Ex Burlington Northern Stock Running in BR Rail Freight livery lol.

A while back, on a forum, the suggestion was that models might come in three 'levels' (kind of like Hornby's Railroad range), something like 'Standard', 'Enhanced Detail' and 'Super Detail'. Instantly people claimed that the highest level of detail should be labelled "Expert" - but what is "Expert" about having more money than someone else, there's no expertise involved in spending money! There lies the crux of the matter - egos.

@cyberdonblue4413

5 ай бұрын

In this day and age, as soon as I hear something like, "Experts have said..." or "According to experts..." I turn round and look the other way. Most of these so called experts haven't got a clue about reality.

@countottovanshanoo822

5 ай бұрын

@@cyberdonblue4413I'd not go quite that far, I think the issue is more to do with them not being self-aware enough to know what actually matters and what doesn't, and where to draw the line.

@sparkshot

5 ай бұрын

You can't diss experts, they have PHD's n shit! Man made thumbs up papers that tell everyone you're uber clever n correct. Doesn't matter that these experts disagree with ther experts on the same subject - conveniently ignore that. They got PHD's n shit...so they must be right...always. ... 💩

@modelrailfan37

5 ай бұрын

Calling it expert is just rude 😡

@ianturvey3894

5 ай бұрын

I was once told that the definition of expert is; ex is a has been and spert (I know, spurt) is a drip under pressure 😂.

Once again Craig you raise so many vaild points. The hobby has always had a elitism problem, that mainly stemmed from model railway clubs & Railway Modeller / Model Railway Constructor magazine. The hobby via its press has always only celebrated one end of the spectrum, i once asked Chris Leigh why they never showcased peoples layouts at home & his reply was that the magazines had to be aspirational, the layouts shown where something to apsire to. Then when Model Rail was launched they started with the layouts that never leave home section, & again it followed the well worn path of model railway club modelling but just in peoples houses etc , again pushing only the stuff that was deemed aspirational. In essence the model press only really serves about 5% of the hobby. Whats ruining the hobby now weve entered the age of social media? no 1 - 'Detail' , the most overused word in existence. For years & years in the 80's / early 90's the cry was why cant we have models as good as the stuff made in HO for continental europe , 2 reasons why not , Hornby had no money & Riko Int who specified Limas range said the UK market would not stomach the considerably higher prices & so the duopoly of basic gear continued. Then Bachmann entered the fray taking up where Mainline left off utilising the cheaper labour costs & far east tooling innovations, that said the Germans & Austrians still produce better models on mainland europe. So the arms race began , starting the process of cramming as much onto models as humanly possible & with it aiming for older / wealthier clients & here we are with a new arms race of the new entrants & the new gods of dcc - automation / sound / museum quality & weathering., the latest one is the ever increasing use of magnets. A new facet also appearing of sacking P4 & EM gauge off & reworking the track by respacing the sleepers. As Pete Watermann stated you dont need to bother doing the models up because theyre that good , so you spend all your time instead building a layout to run them on & a new elitism has taken hold on social media with this approach. While all the while, a underground movement is taking hold thats a standing rebuke to this , running anything & everything & putting some fun back into the hobby. As the costs of the new models has risen , people turning to the older offerings to satisty their wishes. The model press blind to it , facebook etc split into distinct camps of 'serious modellers' & those that buy what they like & to hell with it. You are seeing the elitism in full play with Bachmann , how all the features / gimmicks are only on the hi spec models , the classic line of Rolls Royce models at Rolls Royce prices. Doesnt get more elitist than that, same with Hornbys reimagined dublo range. I have read & heard some pearlers over the years. When Bachmann announced the new class 47 retool, one person said that these models would appeal only to serious modellers, i asked him what constitutes a serious modeller, the reply being those who have exhibition layouts. One prominent youtuber proclaiming that his layout demanded only the best models could be used on it , again we get back to this notion of aspiration, driven by detail , setting the standard, that only the top end gear is worthy to run on their layouts. As youve probaly noticed with the fanfare with the Cavalex class 56 & the resultant adoration , its like anyone who has the Hornby or Mainline one is now a social outcast. Had this with the Accurascale class 37 & again we get to another big issue with the hobby 'Hype'. Never have we been so bombarded with hype , the 3d cad renders , the engineering protoype, the production sample, the decorated samples, the magazine youtube waffle love in's again breeds the elitism / apsiration fed by detail & hype of how detailed the detail is. Which of course soon means nothing when the loco wont stay on the rails or the motors jacked it in. The Gatekeeping of knowledge, funny one is that. I suppose back in the 70's, 80's & 90's we where blessed by so many great books, as a modern image modeller , the Janes Rail portfolio series , BR colour album / BR in colour where just the best resource, buying books was a integral part of the hobby, be it the BR Fleet survey series by Brian Haresnape, C J Marsdens traction guides, The David Gibbons stockspot feature from BR's Railnews magazine that Ian Allan published into 2 fantastic books, i still have them all , the OPC Profile books of the deltics, class 50's etc, some of my favourites to read was O S Nocks 'Two Miles A Minute' , Brian Haresnapes BR: A Journey By Design 1948-1983, the book on class 47 diesels, the fantastic hand drawn cut aways / engineering drawings which i used to try & copy as a boy & which led me to becoming a technical illustrator albeit on CAD. Is buying railway books still a big thing, do modellers have librairies at home to call upon anymore? Again is that a elitist thing? Got to say KZread & google images are a godsend these days for new projects to research etc, I dont get to travel about by rail much these days , in years gone by i was never off the railways , the photography , models & books just went hand in hand in building up the knowledge base. Have we all got lazier - unintentionally dumbed down?

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

It's all on the internet now mate, well,.mostly anyway!

'Detail'. And there it is the single most reason why the hobby is going south. More detail, more cost. I run N gauge...why on earth do I need micro detailing in my rolling stock...I cant even see it! madness.

@sparkshot

5 ай бұрын

"Detail deaill detail!" 🫨 .... "Affordability affordablity affordabiity" options requred.

@raymondleggs5508

4 ай бұрын

Buy a microscope! 😜

Trouble with gatekeepers/rivet counters is they hide behind their keyboards. Same in nearly every hobby these days and if you were to confront them one to one, watch them fill underpants.

@AussiePom

3 ай бұрын

These people use the anonymity of the internet to "stab" other people and their creations whilst all the while not revealing who they are or where they're located. They're cowards in reality for they'd never have the "balls" to confront someone and say to their face what they write via their keyboard.

I've had exactly the same problem in my profession. I'm a professional jazz musician, but when I was growing up in the 80's I was told by the older blokes on the local amateur scene that "You weren't there with us in the 50's, so you don't know what you're talking about." One of them even told me that "It's our music, and it'll die with us!". That mentality beggars belief.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Yeah see, that's hard core gatekeeping, elitist bollywollocks!!

Having indulged myself in a number of hobbies over the years .... Railways, shooting, angling, historical re-enactment (especially bad for this), caving, playing jazz, I've discovered these people to be present in all of them, particularly over aspects of equipment. "Equipment snobbery" I call it.

I live in Malta. We have no trains on the island as you may be aware. I model British locomotives and wagons/coaches. The layout looks nothing like anything in the UK. All my buildings have flat roofs, just like the ones we have here yet someone insisted on telling me that if it rains, that roof would flood in real life! You can imagine how hard I laughed at the person's comment and moved on. Most of these rivet counters are not worth answering their badly intended comments! Well said!! Rule #1 😀 As for my layout has been a work in progress for nearly 5 years, and I only just started with some landscaping. I enjoy the journey and love sharing my ideas through my blog and KZread channel. Not many may agree with my ideas, but I am not usually the one that handles that 🤭

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

British Malta railways, I love it mate 😂

My Railway, My rules, rivet count your own railway as you'll find your one missing!

GWR in Scotland? Ohhhh talk about poking the tiger! 😬😬😬😬 1. Don’t like gate keepers 2. Don’t like click baiters 3. Don’t like content pinchers 1. Do like iron horses party hat

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Can't beat the ranting cap!😎

@hamshackleton

5 ай бұрын

@@IronHorseRailways Rating - or ranting? 🙂

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

@@hamshackleton autocorrect is a curse on humanity

I've never seen your content before, but what a place to start! Well said sir. I watch Sams Trains, Oscar Paisley, and Everard Junction, amongst others, for the variety. Be or old time Tri-Ang, and Hornby Dublo, or a review on what a youngster's train set looks like, or a scale single era layout. I can appreciate what you do for what you do. Never has you do you been more appropriate. There is never a need for gate keeping. My N gauge layout is firmly early mid sixties in a fictional notrh east Midlands area and that's fine by me, but I won't denigrate anyone else for their modern image or toy train layouts, as I said you do you, you want to run Stephensons Rocket between the Flying Scotsman and a class 66 Freightliner, you do you and have fun with it. By the way I may be 27 in my head but I actually turn 60 next month.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Never too old mate, and the attitude is right! Which is why I said it's not everyone of a certain age! Because it's Clearly NOT! Keep rocking Richard!👍

As for gatekeeping, yes... My club does indeed, unfortunately, have those individuals who are like "This layout has a setting, you can't run that on here, it's out of era/region"... But for every one of those, there are two who would run whatever they can on that layout during an open day specifically just to annoy the gatekeepers. It's a wonder a brawl hasn't actually kicked off yet... Pretty much why whenever someone asks me what era/setting my own layout is, my response is "It's fictional". Nice easy response giving myself a free pass to run whatever I want on it. One word that seemingly absolves you of all the rules...

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Spot on mate, nothing wrong with having a time table or era or what have you, I just believe that being so precious and restrictive is inimical. Pete Waterman has said something similar too I believe!

@modelrailfan37

5 ай бұрын

Sorry your club is like that. That’s so unfair…

Absolutely right Craig, there is elitism in many hobbies and Model Railways is no different, but people should be open minded and welcome new ways of thinking. We need more diversity in the hobby as well, more women and girls and people from my diverse backgrounds.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Can't argue mate

Congratulations you have said what a lot of us feel. To me the worst ones are the people who go out of their way to nitpick others layouts or running sessions + the big headed bar stewards who think they are the best. Be yourself. Stephen

Absolutely flippin awesome fella! I have been involved in this hobby for just over 2 years now, starting at the young ol age of 64 in retirement and needing a hobby through the winter time and a reason to get out of the wife's way! I know nothing about railways, but grew up around them in South Wales. I have a small garden shed in which I squirrel myself away and am now on my second layout as I learnt so much from the mistakes I did on the first one, revamped it and am enjoy myself immensely. I have always welcomed any comments and a lot have helped me develop the layout but if any of these gatekeepers / rivet counters looked at how I do my layout they would probably end up in a cardiac ward! Basically its MY money, MY hobby and MY enjoyment that counts, and if you got a problem - DON't watch it! Well done on the shout out! Regards Steve

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Well said mate, you keep it up! Enjoyment is the main thing! Anyone who tries to tarnish or punch down on your work or efforts is a selfish negative vibe merchant!

Hi Craig. With you 100%. Just had someone tell tell me rule 1 is for people that make mistakes, I said that's ok than because I make loads. Some have a pop about my American water tower and trains running in the wrong direction, Err my layout I'll do what I want. Thanks buddy. DELPH JUNCTION (Pete)

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

What sad act had actually said that about rule 1?😂 See! They're bloody everywhere! Snobby little nuggets!!!

@modelrailfan37

5 ай бұрын

Whoever told you that is making a mistake by saying something like that in the first place 😂

@delphjunction1168

5 ай бұрын

@@modelrailfan37 Hi ya. Yeah this person goes out of his way to upset people.

They way I see it there are two types of modeller. The serious who cares about authenticity and period dates, the other like me who doesn't. When I started buying I had no idea about eras and what type of stock goes with which locos, I still don't. I will always be forever grateful to a member of staff I spoke with in Rails of Sheffield around 12 years ago. I went in to the shop to buy some models and I was umming and arring about what I should buy. He asked me what the problem was? I explained that I was just starting and I hadn't a clue on what to buy. He asked if I had a layout yet, I said no. He then said about the serious and not so serious aspect and ended up saying why don't you buy what you want and run your layout as a preserved railway i.e. all manner of traction and coaches irrespective of era, he said you could even have period and modern road vehicles if you did. That's what I've done ever since, it makes things so much easier.

I love this video! ❤❤❤❤❤ The Harold Road channel introduced me to your channel. I'm from the St Louis, Missouri, area in the United States. My approach to giving criticism about anything is to lead with compliments, doing at least a 2:1 ratio to criticism, and to phrase them in questions: "have you considered ... ?" or "I've been looking for a reliable color reference for Yak Blue - might I inquire what your reference sources are?" As for receiving criticism... if they aren't being polite, then feel free to be blunt: "That's nice!" and post the video of Mrs Brown explaining why she says that. 😉 Again, great video, mate! ❤

I run my Era 1 Hornby Stepehensons Rocket and 3 coach pack on a 1980's CIE Irish Rail Layout. Sorry if I hurt Era 1 afionadoes present!

I’m with you on this Craig. My late father was a fireman on the footplate back in the 1950’s. I learnt everything from him but I certainly don’t think of myself as an expert on railway operations etc. I’m always learning from others. It’s the best way to move forward in the hobby. After all, we’re big kids playing with our trains. So let’s enjoy the hobby for what it is, a hobby!

You described RMWeb brilliantly

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

This isn't the first time I've been told this 😂

I agree with your comments Craig. Yes I am i my 70's and I am a bit of a "gatekeeper" but only in my shed. Yes I try and keep my locos in 1948-56 era Great Western and my BR vans , like the Scarab with a "W" on the door. Why because its the fun for me of the chase to find them. I don't preach it to anyone else. I hate the "timetable" layouts at exhibitions etc. I volunteer at Locomotion in Shildon and we get lots of young School children visiting. when they look at our models and see the cost I try and guide them into the "cheap" side of the hobby to start and encourage them to start small. Also explaining that they can become "artists", "Electricians", "Carpenters", "Mechanics" and " Computer experts" all by learning through the hobby. I hope that i pass on my thoughts about the hobby to them by showing what they can achieve. One more thing, don't think its Model railways that is the bastion of the "Gatekeepers. I have worked on a preserved railway as well and boy, do you get some "Rivet Counters" telling you what you should have done when you rebuilt the Loco that is pulling the train for their enjoyment. Rant Over, catch up on the circuit somewhere.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say you're gate keeping at all David, far from it by the sounds of things! If anything, you're on our side :) keep volunteering!

I attempted to step back into model railwaying going to a layout with my favorite rake. A Triang Johnson 3F I'd restored from non running, a 6 wheel milk van, a teak clerestory brake coach, and a set of 3 of those hornby recent 6 wheel coaches, the LNWR livery. Each piece had a personal story attached, and a history. After that experience, I didnt WANT to go back. Sneers at my locomotive, comments on being 'incorrect' for the time, not so politely being asked to not run on their layout, one even saying 'You're not running that' and I wont use the word he said because KZread will get mad at me. All the best to those who want to stay, and to those like yourself with open minds, but it soured the experience too much for me.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Thats unfortunate, hopefully you've not fully been discouraged

I worked on the footplate for over 30 years (retired, ill health like many railwaymen of my age) but I've never been a railway modeller. I had a trainset as a child (1950s - early 60s) but that's as far as it went. I suppose being a railwayman from the 1970s onwards working horrendous hours didn't help. I do, however, love to see the fantastic output on display on KZread - whatever the level of accuracy or otherwise. I must say though that I understand fully why some (probably including myself here too) might be less than keen to give it a go. Some of the these old "Gatekeepers", as you call them, can behave like very stern old headmasters from what I've seen around the internet. I find it highly amusing though when some old boy gives us, "the benefit of his modelling experience" when displaying a layout from the old semaphore days. Many of the modern day (boil in the bag) drivers still find semaphore signalling confusing but some of these occasional expert modelling geriatrics claim to know it all inside out. Examining their layouts they clearly don't. You have a wonderful community that could be a source of great encouragement and knowledge that already produces some breathtaking work. Show the Gatekeepers to the door and ask them not to slam it on the way out. They'll soon get the message.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

It's always nice to have little details accurate to the real railways, but does it really need to be so 100% accurate? I don't think so, and it's not great when certain members insist on punching down on other modellers - well said comment mate!

Well said Craig. One of my (many) reasons for watching your channel is your honesty and sense of fairness. Yes, there are some people who want to leave a legacy, but there are others, like you say, that look down on certain questions. They know more about how the actual railway used to work, it gives them license to spout utter nonsense. Ask them about the Train Operating Systems, Train controller, NCE Power Cab etc. see how some of them will recoil. The modelling world needs younger people to keep it going, also to inject new ideas and technologies. Anyway, that's my rant over, all the best. Ian

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Youngsters are out there for sure, not as prolific as they once were but they definitely are out there! Cheers Ian!

I am mondeling USA Z-scale. To me it is all about the overall impression that counts for what is created, not how close one can get a 1:1 copy of the real thing. Just use your 'modelers license' and have fun!

I'm not a nodel railway enthusiast my things model engineering and live steam but anyway, I totally agree with you. A hobby is a personnel thing it's an escape so each individual should do what pleases them. You tube is a wonderful comunication tool, for whatever hobby your intersted in, thanks always enjoy your upfront comments.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Martyn, live steam is excellent!❤️

I regularly anger gatekeepers at shows with my fictional layouts. I often built around my own world building alternative history setting, definitely angers them, but it is great fun to design and work with.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with that, it's artwork pure and simple, a beautiful layout doesn't have to be 100% accurate, and it NOT being 100% accurate also doesn't make it a lesser model!

@modelrailfan37

5 ай бұрын

Keep doing it, those layouts are some of my favourite!! You can do anything and make it exactly the way you want it!

@tophatdalekthetophatteddal7402

5 ай бұрын

@@IronHorseRailways exactly the point I make at my local clubs meetings. Its all about creativity and expressing what you want to through that medium. Its as I said great fun. Must say your video hit the nail on the head with the hobby, even at clubs you find people gatekeeping knowledge. As a railway historian by career, I personally dont gatekeep the knowledge, nor go around pointing out inaccuracies in peoples hard work. I am a firm believer that models express lived experiences and personal feelings and imagination over hyper realistic exact recreations, even as realistic a recreation as it is, there is still emotion expressed.

@modelrailfan37

4 ай бұрын

@@gppsoftware fair enough. People need to stop putting the work of others down though is my main point, and if the layout is modelled well then it looks like something that COULD exist which is one of the best parts of modelling

Bollywollocks? 😮I’ll have that thank you! 😂😂😂

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

😂

I like the text intro! 🙂 - - - Us and Them syndrome. What a lot of these 'keep it 100% realistic' bods forget is when they have gone, so has their knowledge, unless they are prepared to share it - but without being dogmatic on the fine details. "It would be better if you did (xxx)" is a lot better for everyone than "You cannot do that, you have to do this - or go away" as some clubs and groups seem to do/say. Look at the 'real' railway. Right now, they are running HST power-cars on freight trains, test trains, etc, and why not? Towards the end of steam, passenger express loco's were used to haul freight. Every form of traction slowly migrates down, as better machines come along. Look at 12" to the foot heritage lines, they run a right hodge-podge of stock behind whatever traction they have available. Nobody shouts that a Scots steam loco cannot tow Southern electric coaching stock - or "That SECR tank loco would never have been seen shunting in Bury or Carnforth." Gates are for keeping livestock in, and people out - or vice-versa - and have no place in a hobby that anyone can enjoy in their own way.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Well bloody said Eric!

Extremely well said! I’m modelling on a bit of a budget, and I don’t care about masses of detail and absolute accuracy, so I have a lot of older models. I also don’t care that much about era, if there’s a loco or wagon I want and it doesn’t fit in for me, then why should I be worried about that? If you enjoy something, then do it, don’t let rude arrogant people stop you from doing what you want. And I know this sounds harsh, but to those who pick on others and put their layouts down for absolutely no reason, get a life, make your own layout, and don’t bully others…

I had a guy going on about the size of a brick , on a museum quality building that I did. the only take away that he had of this complete structure ,was that my bricks were 0.2 mm too large. I don't think he is aware of the fact that there is different sizes of bricks in the real world. I went to his page and had a look at the structures that he manufactures and sell and could only smile at the "quality" of it. Yes, they are everywhere

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

What an absolute "brick" 😂 See, little things like that, don't matter - totally skipping over the whole structure to come up with "well that brick is too big by microns"...

@tonyrobinson362

5 ай бұрын

I do believe Pete built his its fab.

I ran my titfield thunder bolt with some mk3s shock horror but my grandson loved it 😊

My advice to anyone in the hobby is just have fun, do what you feel makes you happy and sod the rest. No one tells me what to do. I am with you on this one mate.

Mate, spot on. I'm getting back into the hobby just now, after 40 years away, and this kind of gate keeping - let's call it what it is, snobbery and petty bullsh*t from entitled, small minded people with little or no sense of respect or wonder left in them - makes me grind my teeth. I also build model aircraft, and paint figures, vehicles and scenery for historical and sci-fi 28mm gaming, and let me tell you, it exists there, too.Boy, does it ever... Anyway. Your good self and the guys at Budget Model Railways are a breath of fresh air. I want to use my old layout baseboard - in two bits in the loft - to make a simple little Inglenook for whatever 00 gauge stuff I can salvage, and a runabout for N or OO9. My 83 year old Dad is recovering from a stroke and wants a shelf layout for his mantle piece, too. I'm going to set them in whatever grimy, working setting I feel like, and run what I want and can afford/kit bash. After all, when I was a kid, my old Lima type 35 Hymek used to pull a short based Caledonian coach, a break van and a Smith's Crisps vent van. Often in that order. As for 53 year old me, I just want to play with trains again! Cheers, thanks once more - I've liked and subscribed. Hope you go huge.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Hope your dad recovers soon and can join you in the hobby mate, keep it going! Glad to have your support!

Agreed, the 'monetisation' is just a bit sad, the 'gatekeeping' is rather missing the point. I have helped a couple of youngsters build layouts (my own never got finished due to repeated house moves). I ended up with a collection of odds and ends and when an older chap decided he was finally old enough for a train set I put them together for him. For the details of how all the odd bits got incorporated google for Outline history of the Great Grand Fenwick Railway (and Sons) - The 'trinket smugglers' became a bit of a 'thing', all rather gratifying. These days it's the cost that puts me off, and getting reliable running is still difficult for a youngster (the old Hornby 3-rail stuff just 'worked') but with the Kato pocket-line stuff now available and some 3D printed loco bodies I might give it another go myself.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

There's a definite freelance layout in the pipe works, designed to run mostly US and European stock, anything but British really - some great models out there!

Hi, I totally agree with you about the model railway police try to tell you what’s right and what’s wrong for you, people should do what they want on their railways, we certainly don’t live in a perfect world, the manufacturers don’t really help with what they do for example Accurascale producing an exclusive run of an item that would sell very well and not get another run is bad for the hobby! Hornby moved the goalpost on the purple Queen Elizabeth loco a few years ago, they stated 1000 units then produced 1500! Please correct me if I’m wrong but the point is more modellers got to have one along with the muppets who got them then tried to sell them for a king’s ransom on DreamBay, at least Bachmann produce enough of their products so a huge percentage of modellers can get a model, they have the collectors club to unleash the rare items onto modellers with extra deep pockets, thanks for sharing.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Eyup Stormy, glad to hear from you bud, hope you're well and thanks for watching!

@StormmyStormmy

5 ай бұрын

@@IronHorseRailways Hi, I enjoy your channel because you tell it as it is, only genuine people do that, our hobby is unique in my opinion but we are treated like sheep by some of the manufacturers, it’s like a Jedi mind trick……they don’t produce enough of the great items but they over produce the not so good stuff, their marketing strategies are woeful, Accurascale are the biggest tease merchants in the hobby and I’m seriously going off them with their limited run crap! So are there only 400 to 500 railway modellers out there! Quite a few of the exclusive models they produce are sold to muppets who want to make big money out of real modellers buy selling the models they get on Greedbay! Shocking state of affairs in my opinion, then there’s the classic saying’ first come first served’ well they can stick that up their arse as far as I’m concerned!

Just watched your vid and totally agree, theres a lot of youtubers with big audiences that could put their knowledge to good use and don't! Just enjoy what you do I say, "Rule 1" & big ups to people like you that keep this shizzle real!! MR X at Burton Central

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Cheers my friend, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

On the subject of sharing a build journey, I'm about to start a new project. It's currently in the planning stages. A new N gauge layout, aiming for exhibition quality, but with a twist: Disassembled, it'll fit in a travel luggage case! My local club has been invited to a show in Euskirchen, Germany for December but since Brexit getting big layouts from the UK to Germany has been too much faf and too expensive, so we had an idea to build traveling layouts we can simply take with us as we go to Germany by train! I'll be documenting the entire build on my model railway Discord channel, and I've been considering documenting it on youtube as well...

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Id say go for it mate, it's always nice seeing progress

I'm having great fun watching my almost 20 year old bachmann class 66 in GBRF pulling a rake of mk1s in intercity livery 😊😊

What you're saying makes a lot of sence, I heard someone well respected saying you're not a modeler if it's not an actual specific location you're modeling or comisioning someone else to model. People who say such things make me not want to discus what interest me or ask them for advice. I will never bad mouth someone elses work, they are enjoying themselves and if I don't like it' I'll move along. I've seen people ask questions on forums only to be confronted by "why do you want to do that" and the string of abuse, I feel like jumping in and say just answer the damn question or shut it. I could go on now you stirred my kettle up lol. Anyway Subscribed and liked.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Can't please everyone mate, thankfully most of us are sensible enough not to try! Cheers!❤️

I railway model to one rule which is 'Do what you want with what you want the way you want!'. Run any loco with any stock on any layout style you want. From the simplest layout to the most exact and complex. We are all in it to enjoy the hobby. Don't listen to people who are only there to stomp on and criticize none exacting modelling. I can guarantee that if you take a close look at their layouts you can pick out inconsistencies!

I am fortunate enough to come from an area, where there are lots of old railwaymen, from all parts of the BR i.e. Driver Super-intendants, drivers second men, guards, signalmen and permanent way lads. They are all extremely helpful on the history and running of the railway when we still had proper rail-freight and loco hauled passenger trains. They are also a very good source of photos from the 1950's to the modern day, which give a really good insight for modelling.

I agree totally Craig these people look to show their so called superiority and will belittle anyone they do not think are up to their standards. I post on Facebook groups that are supportive and encouraging and are happy to see my modest , but self built , layout. I watched with humour a heated debate as to whether the roof of one of the Cavelex 56s was the correct shade of blue and you could just imagine them being the pub bores !! It is the same group that if you said I run Hornby RailRoad with Bluetooth decoders you would be subject to ridicule , Lets fight back against these people and remember they are the minority . Cheers Kev

Yes Craig,”bollywollocks”coins it in one,in addition the following comes to mind,”Codswallop and Poppycock”. I have lived and worked here in Japan for 25 years,six years ago I returned to railway modeling after a break of 60 years. Railway modeling here is 70% - 80% N scale due to limited available space in most homes,about 10% Ho (USA and Japanese rolling stock). My layout is British Railways (1940-1970’s)here in Japan and it’s OO !! .So as an scale outcast I totally enjoy building my new large layout with scenery encompassing both UK and Japanese scenes. Here in Japan the knowledgeable mostly share their expertise and don’t “self annoint”themselves or place themselves on a lofty pedestal!. Greatly appreciate your informative and straightforward approach to railway modeling.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Michael, It's good to know I've not upset everyone today 😂

Thankyou for talking about this problem. It is about time we started fighting back.

The great thing about model railways is that you have a blank canvas to do whatever you want. If sharing how you did something helps someone out or inspires someone, even if its just one person, that's well worth the effort and far more important than likes, views or making a few quid from monetization. A lot of people aren't in a position to run their own model railway or get to exhibitions, so running sessions and seeing different trains run on layouts on KZread makes them happy. We should be encouraging that all the time. A lot of the problems you see on Facebook and forums stems from people with commercial interests. Some of those new channels that seem to come out of nowhere with professional looking layouts are quite often managed directly or indirectly by corporate media teams. It still seems crazy to me that people are willing to sign NDAs and give away some of their independence for a few free items, or getting access to something before a rival channel. The hobby needs less drama, more modeling and focusing on making the hobby accessible to everyone.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Some good points were raised there, thanks for watching!

Following the advice that 'anything is better than nothing' I've been using a class 37 to push plank wagons around on an Inglenook layout. Im really tempted to post a video of it now just to see how many rivet counters I can upset!

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with that, I'm sure a class 37 did that at some stage anyway 😎

@philipstokes2824

5 ай бұрын

I say go for it and don't forget to involve the "hand of God" on your video and put some funny trinkets in your trucks instead of "proper" loads, I'll like it just to enjoy them cry!!

@christopherstubbs8130

4 ай бұрын

@philipstokes2824 I'm a fully paid up member of the 'hand of God complete with a bent paperclip' method when it comes to uncoupling.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

@@christopherstubbs8130 it's done by hand in real life anyway! So technically it's the right way!😂😂

I've done my bit to stir your Gatekeepers as on a UK forum I saw someone posting about an upcoming anniversary of the first exhibition OO layout: A.R Walkley’s Portable Goods Yard, I saw that track plan and went I can build that and quickly built the baseboards to T-Trak-HO standards (double-straight modules) and put some track down, to their shock & horror as I used Kato HO unitrack, with DCC. Then topped their horror by using Victorian Railways diesel locomotives & rollingstock. The only reason why I’ve not done much with it in awhile, is that I’m stuck on how to landscape it and how to design the fiddle yard. For landscaping I’ve been bouncing around Walthers Cornerstone Buildings placed around the layout and a large semi-scratchbuild building trains pull into using the Auhagen modular building system, something not readily available in Australia. I know I’ve bought out both the European Train specialist stores stock of some elements with a near-zero chance of them restocking.

I'm 68 now and have been a railway modeller on and off since I was a young lad. I totally agree with your comments about gatekeeping, I've been a member of several clubs over the years and have found most of them had their little elitist cliques. it was same in a photography club I used to go too. Since the advent of the internet the amount of information available is phenomenal, but the rise of the keyboard warrior is the downside. I hope it's ok with you, Craig, but I would like to pass on the name of a group of railway modellers who are very helpful, friendly, non judgemental and supportive of whatever standard you work to. It's the Railway Modellers Club, part of the Scale Model Scenery company. There are experienced modellers right through to beginners who are willing to help with advice when or where needed. I have no affiliation with the RMC other than as a member who thinks knowledge is better shared so that everyone can improve their game, or not if you don't want to. Have a look, it doesn't cost anything and you might just find it a refreshing change to the usual facebook clans.

As someone new to the hobby, one of the most fascinating aspects is how each individual approaches the task of building a layout. It starts with a love for trains, and our cumulative life experiences with trains which vary from Individual to individual. Then a desire to model these experiences and impressions. So many decisions must be made! And that's the point. I consider the layouts I've seen to be nothing less than an art form; windows to a rail man's soul.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

That's a very valid point - we must remember that this hobby, overall else -, IS an art form - everyone of us an artist in their own right

I am shocked at the level of ‘unpleasantness’ that bubbles away in the hobby. I know YT is driven by negativity and click bait but when it seeps into a creative and enjoyable hobby there is something wrong with society. Those of us who dared to join the TT:120 modelling scene have seen a lot of bile being vented from people who ‘claim’ some higher position in the model railway community and as for the rivet counters, ‘whateva’ I subscribe to the ‘impressionist/inspired by/what if’ school of model railways. Information is of no use until it is shared, so l will keep doing my low production value videos and watching those that entertain me with superb dialogue…. BollyWollocks …. Reet proper that lad.. 😂

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Good point mate, there is such a nasty undertone at times and it's awful, and I'm glad that I'm not the only person seeing it and being bothered by it, it's super damaging - who'd want to be a part of something like that? And I'm glad you like the bollywollocks 😂

Hi Iron Horse, just liked and subbed, completely agree with what you're saying, I've been a railway modeller for 40 years now (never got it right yet), but I know that we need to get the message out there that this hobby is open to everyone,I'm just starting my next layout,it won't be brilliant, but, hopefully,it will be fun, and that's what it's all about,anyway,thanks for sharing,take care,all the best from Scotland,Stephen.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

If you enjoy it man, that's all that matters and F***k the haters and nay sayers! Model where what and how you want, belittle no one and don't nit pick their work I say! Cheers for the support Ste!😁

There's another British modeller of OO 1970's western era models who did a video Rivett Counters and he said of one modeller well known on Rmweb and looked upon as a sort of modelling guru on that forum and he wrote an article in the mag Railway Modeller. "platforms too high so that coach doors can't open to non working signals and signals incorrectly sighted to buffet cars in the middle of non gang wayed trains. The other YT bloke said "oh for heaven sakes get a life!!" These sort of people are the ones who at model railway exhibitions that love to point out things that no one else gives a toss about like "I say that Deltic never ran with that head code in Scotland". I'd love to be standing next to one and then when he whips out his camera (never a phone) to film a layout that does come up to his ultra high self important standards and he starts recording, I'd say in a loud voice "choo choo choo choo choo toot toooooooooooot!". If they ever exhibited a layout be it in P4 or EM it would be nice to tell them that they have such lovely toy trains but where's Thomas the tank engine.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Oath mate! There's so many people finally coming out about this quite toxic attitude, and it's actually good to see it as it means, we're not alone. There's NOTHING wrong with a super detailed Accurate layout, it can take years to perfect it - but that doesn't mean you get to tell others they're wrong, or don't matter - that's arsehole territory! Thanks for watching!

@AussiePom

3 ай бұрын

@@IronHorseRailways I hope you don't mind but here's a link to the video that Charlie Bishop of Chadwick Model Railway YT Channel did on Rivet Counters. He names the so called "modelling guru". kzread.info/dash/bejne/intsqq-rlM3Hc6Q.htmlsi=saBeDupA-cgaldYa

Seeing a Class 37 running in Dubai.... Now that is something I do want to see! 😂😂 But well said. There are people who do talk down on people think they all high and mighty but at the end of the day, I say ignore then and run whatever you want. The Making Tracks layout were running Thomas the Tank Engine and saw Thomas pulling their Milton Keynes Central Station and was lovely to see. Then there was a pre-grouping Midland Railway Layout at Model Rail Scotland and someone ran Thomas the Tank Engine into the station, really enjoyed seeing it.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Pete has his head on tight mate, he knows the score, and has himself said that too many modellers are too precious about their hobby ! Cheers mate!

What a sensible man you are a model railway is What you want it to be not what others think it should be. I am 73 and like you my dad was at railway man which led me into the hobby. My railway is entirely fictional and painted in my own livery, locos go from lord of the isles to class 66 diesel's and any one who does not like this can just Go and find something else to watch. I havs subscribed to your channel and wait for more of your down to earth views, all the best andy.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Andy thank you sir, I appreciate the support and kind words! I do love a class 66, has to be said!😁😁

I once had someone belittle me because I dared to say I wanted more modern trains on the market like the Class 377 and Class 465. It’s a reason why I downsized from OO to N scale, the other being cost

@beanie.royalstar

4 ай бұрын

i too want moden loco''s, i'm getting really peeved with the manufacturers that they think we stiil want remakes of 100 year old steam trains, they need to get up to date loco's built so the new blood can associate with what they see in real life to what is being modelled.

Thanks for this! Though I confess to some feelings of imposter syndrome at times with my own wee channel, but am the first to admit that I love model railways and know next to nothing at all about actual railways!! Keep it up!

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Imposter syndrome is something I get a lot of mate, so I can relate to that!

Hi Iron Horse i have enjoyed the video i'm new to model railway modeling starting out at 60 yes i enjoy it. I have built a 00 gauge layout but new i'm taking down as i'm into N Gauge so much my first n gauge was a 2 x4 for the grandsons. My next is going to be a 3 x 6 or 4 x 8 not sure yet. But ill make it my way and ill run what i like when i like so i don't care what others say. Keep up the good work.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Cheers grumpy!😄

@grumpystrainset-4357

4 ай бұрын

@@IronHorseRailways so if you can give me any tips it would be grateful

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

@@grumpystrainset-4357 I'm not great at tips mate, but you're welcome to look through my back videos! Ive done all sorts over the years ☺️😁

Bang on, modelling, whatever it is, is a hobby, a personal thing, there are many ways to skin a cat as the saying goes, all that matters is we're having fun, that's what a hobby is. Of course some folk have more experience and knowledge, but that should be asked for, not rammed down other people's throats.

Love your rants IHR 😀 And I've experienced just what you're describing too! As many I am sure, I don't just do railway modelling and it's prevalent in other spheres too (try doing anything in military modelling and Warhammer - its off the scale there!).

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Ranting and raving and carrying on as usual lad ..😂

I think u are spot on with your thoughts my thoughts are as follows my layout my rules my fun n bugger to those who are rivet counting. If you don’t have anything nice to say don’t talk is my mind set.

I personally know someone who’s a rivet counter but he doesn’t have any problem with nitpicking, most of the time. As someone who models Thomas the Tank Engine in a semi-realistic way, what I do with my stock is my own tastes. It always seems the minority who have to be realistic to the point of over obsessing over every little detail no matter what. Even into the mid 1950’s there still were a minority of locos in grouping liveries, so what? It’s different and interesting.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Aah Thomas modelling 😎😎❤️

I've stopped attending model shows because so many exhibitors run to accurate timetables so if you miss the GWR 14xx with autocoach, it'll be another 2 hours before it comes past again. Then there're the elasticated trouser -wearers with their backpacks, stinking of salt and vinegar crisps that stand and bore all and sundry with their criticisms...Don't start me on those who cry out "don't touch" when a child points to something and asks about it..

Basically just describing RMWeb 😂

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Ooofff!!! Shots fired 😂

I have to say it's not just gate keepers or the dreaded rivet counters. I often see a kind of pecking order where some people whose layouts are nowhere near the level of some still picking holes in those they feel are below them - which sometimes they aren't - or picking on their style of presentation. They help no one and sometimes make me wonder what attracted them to the hobby in the first place as they show no joy in anyone else's work.

And don't forget the idiots that rip on someone, because they bought a model train that was made in china (where 95% of mainstream model train products are made today) . I cannot stand the gatekeepers. This hobby is all about having fun. The gatekeepers are kind of like those "Armchair generals", that speak a big game, but are no more than braggers.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Good point, always baffles me to be fair!

I've always thought one of the best things about railway modelling is its wide spectrum. Anything from an out-of-the-box set up with little scenery and basic buildings to highly detailed exact scale reproductions. All are perfectly valid. One of the silliest things I have ever seen was when two exact scale societies had a big argument. A notice at an exhibition stand of one of them declared members of the other society would not be served.

"Its...Bolly-Wollocks" 😄 Not heard that one lol. I agree with the research and drive for rivet counting accuracy, I don't agree with it being pushed as the standard or only way. I nodel in P4 sometimes yet I also model in 00 n N, pro's n con's. Old 'expert' fuddy duddies need to calm a bit yep.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

P4 is fantastic, it's not for me though, but that doesn't make it any less valid! And I wouldn't tarnish anyone for wanting to take that route - it's not unreasonable to expect the same for the opposite is it mate?

@sparkshot

5 ай бұрын

@@IronHorseRailways - of course! I love P4 although I've had to after aroynd 7 years of modelling it settle on 00 for the loft layout I have video's on. Reason was mainly cus tbe features I want to model in sequence require tight curves so my hand was forced. A 00 advantage though is quicker n easier n tighter curves. I'm still muffed I had to settle back on 00 but never mind, pro's n con's! Can always do another small P4 layout, ended up trashing it. You can see it on my J1 complete vid and also TRoS Episode 9. See what think, also my Out n Aboit Norramby video's in N might interest you hopefully. I need to pull my phynger out on the layouts though, life takes up other things!

Well said Sir!! I've not even started building my layout, still working out best use of the space in my cellar. But when I do build it, it will cover post grouping to late 80's, and I'll run whatever I like!! My railway, my rules. The rivet counters can p&££ off in my humble opinion. I might even deliberately post videos of mismatched locos and rolling stock just to get their blood pressure up!! Good rant, well ranted!! (3rd of June 1974 was a Monday not a Thursday though) L.O.L.

@eddiegalashan

5 ай бұрын

That was meant to read "post NATIONALISATION, not post Grouping, Doh!!!!

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

I can't even get dates right man 😂😂

Craig, keep the rants coming! The comments you provoke are always enlightening so something is working and you are not a teasing click baiter! I avoid much of this unhelpful stuff by being selective in my use of social media and limited forum searches. I suspected clubs operate the way many commenters have mentioned so have not joined one either. YT at least seems to be a relatable informative source from the channels I do follow so this works for me. Keep that ranting hat busy!, 😂

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

I've got a second one to keep the wear and tear down on it 😂 Cheers Andy!

@andydavidson9440

4 ай бұрын

Wow you must be like two jags Prescott!!

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

@@andydavidson9440 😂😂

I WILL run what ever I want, when I want. ItS MY LAYOUT

Its not just model railways, many hobbies are suffering from the same problem, I'm sixty eight and it annoys me when people my age talk down to others. Hobbies are just that, they should be FUN there is no right way. Many years ago I read a book on model railways by an American author and he wrote when a hobby becomes a chore its time to do something else. I totally agree with with what you have said.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

It's a shame they have to rain down to get any enjoyment from anything!

Right on brother but remember we must have something to aim for and there standards do help with models produced being better usually so let’s just get on with what we like 👍 cheers

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Absolutely man, standards are important!

As i stated on my heartfelt video on Sunday, rivet counting will destroy the hobby and these poor individuals who are hiding underground who love model railways ...thankfully since i posted my video it has had nearly 10k views, 500+ likes and over 300 positive comments and funny enough the stupid comments have stopped....i had to do it as it was getting silly with stupid comments and those elitist 100 percenters, i almost nearly quit posting online for a while as was effecting my mood within the hobby , but the Harold Road community is so strong and suportive...as i said on my video, i could run Thomas on a rake of MGR wagons or have Jurrasic Park in the corner with out of scale Dinosours...its rule 1..and its time for a rebellion.....before the hobby dies, and no blood will come through, regards John (Harold Road) 😊

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Never stop posting mate, I've a lot of time for you and your work John, I've had this video in the barrel for a while and I was glad to see you post one on the subject too. There's been grumbling from the stuck up lot already, ironically proving our collective points! Never give it up mate, keep it going! Glad my video found it's way to you anyway! Cheers!

@HaroldRoad

5 ай бұрын

@@IronHorseRailways it takes a brave man to sit in front of camera clearly on a downer as i was, because of constant rivet counting comments, it was becoming incessant, to the point that was effecting me...the comments were so stupid...example....'I noticed that a relay cabinet on Beeston Junction doesn't look 6 foot from the railhead, thus Network Rail would not allow a track worker to work there, as that cabinet is not in a position of safety, so it needs to be moved' or 'you state that Harold Road is present day in your description, well I noticed a figure without hi vis trousers on, so it's breaching H&S safety policies for trackworkers'.....that how bad it got...everyday for a month...it does effect you....but, mate I'm over it now...had my rant...felt better...move on

@highloughsdrifter1629

5 ай бұрын

My next layout (if I ever find time to build it) is going to be British preservation image set in Jurrasic World post Dominion. Preservation so I can run any model I like the look of, plus I've too many locos and my trains are always too short (like most model railways). Jurrasic World because dinosaurs. I'm planning forced perspective as well, tied to together by the "same" train going into a tunnel at the front in OO and reappearing along the back in T...

I was panicking that i had got a few pieces of ballast out of place. After watching and listening to your rant i have taken your advice on board and i am leaving everything as it is

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Ballasting is such a pain 😭😭

Thank you for making these videos. Im trying to do my homework, and this is helping to motivate me 😊

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Enjoy the studies 😁😁

@Gatherleymodeller.

4 ай бұрын

@@IronHorseRailways I'll try 🤔

Quite right. Unless you have unlimited funds, time, space, and necessary skills, everything is a compromise. I think the key for many of us is to have something that is faithful to the original, not an exact replica down to the last rivet. If it looks right and conveys the right atmosphere of the period, then that is good enough. Equally, if you want to run Thomas the Tank Engine with Mark 3 coaches that's just fine too.😊

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

I believe Charlie over at Chadwick once said - "something to hang the imagination on" And, I like that - it makes sense!

Modelling is a creative hobby, in others words, it's your little world. It's entirely your choice what locos, stock and layout you want. .

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Spot on Dave!

Great rant Craig! We need these gatekeeper types like we need a hole in the head! There is a saying- "knowledge is for sharing, not gathering dust somewhere.." I have come across these gatekeeping miseries before, it's one of the reasons I never joined a club. I will admit I try to run trains that are plausible on my freelance heritage railway, keeping it looking believable, but I'm not above a freelance livery or two.. If you don't like my black class 20 or large logo 31, then tough!!

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

Always the same story isn't it? Can't be reasoned with or anything!

@vickielawless

5 ай бұрын

@@IronHorseRailways My partner is planning an N gauge layout based on her favourite music video. It will feature zebras amongst other things. The rivet counters are gonna have a field day!!

'You could hide a badger in that beard!' - Bill Bailey

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

😂

Many years ago i tried a local club and was put off by the members ignorance towards new people...Someone asked me who i was and that was it!....Never went back...Now i've got more time to play i started again and thought i'de try a club again...Same story...Although 2 people said hi this time...To me its just club snobbery...I've always said there should be at least one really sociable guy who can chat away to the "New" member on his first visit...Then maybe they'de come back!

You're completely right about the gatekeeping. My layout wont suit the rivet counters as I run whatever I want but with a modern twist basically. As for the KZread channels etc, I'm probably slightly guilty! Not monetising or anything, not good enough for that! But my layout was probably around 1/2 "done" by the time i started to make the videos. Some older videos show the bits I've finished and now I'm starting to struggle for content as I've not really got much new things to show, except playing trains 😂 My Instagram is much the same, but i try and use tbat for photos/videos as thats part of the hobby I quite enjoy doing.

An excellent video with an interesting perception of “The new kid on the block”. Regards Charlie.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Charlie, pleased you liked the video, hopefully you were able to follow my rambling.... always a pleasure to hear from you - Hope you're well!😄 Cheers!

I do get the passion of people but agree the "that train would not be in that region in 1957". just enjoy it...and let others enjoy. Not everyone wants super realistic. Personally I fid shunting layouts dull, but still admire the craft and detail in them. (i better not tell them about my magic bridge that transports my trains from southish London to Sussex/Devon-ish countryside!)

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Gotta love a magic scenic bridge mate 😂 I like scenic layouts and shunting too!❤️

@bensalt1185

4 ай бұрын

@@IronHorseRailways Exactly or a tunnel...good work on getting the views out there that modelling needs to be more open sometimes. Its not all about accuracy!

Don't start qioting rule books either as rule books are always broken, usually by management. Finally Reference Photos Rule O.K. Yes those signal wires going under the Signal box ground floor door are correct!

I honestly agree with you about gatejeeping not having a place in the hobby, I think it's annoying when people are always having a go at you for getting some things wrong. Besides I think it can be fun to use your imagination and do something creative with your layouts, it doesn't all have to be aligned with reality.

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

I prefer being as thoroughly disjointed from reality as possible mate 😂

You will use all that PVA, I thought the same but half has gone since last July. It gets better as it ages as it thickens.😀

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

Like whiskey 😂

hahaha, that got quite dark towards the end. I have the benefit of ignorance when it comes to accuracy. I moved from Glasgow to Canada 11 years ago, and just started into the hobby last year. So not only do I not know much about British trains, I know even less about North American trains. I don't generally get bad comments, as how can I get offended with criticism when I don't know anything to argue back with, lol. So far I've only had great experiences in the hobby so far. Long may that continue.

Well said Craig i totally agree. Ive got east coast and west coast all running together. I dont care. If i like something and can justify (afford) it then I'll have it and run it with whatever. I actually love doing the scenics, i think the trains become secondary at times, so thats my passion. I enjoy the modelling whether i get it right or not and cant stand those that do no modelling but think they can criticise or just use the hobby as click bait. Keep on modelling atb Andy

@IronHorseRailways

5 ай бұрын

See, I really like the look of the Westerns, but they didn't run "up north" but then again, who really cares?😂 - sod it -, I'm getting westie!!

Yes I have seen it at the club. It can be very off putting

When I posted a FB photo of my repainted EFE rail 02 Calbourne into unlined olive I had a couple of gatekeepers commenting that it needed lining. I replied it didn't as it was representing how it looked during the early years of WW2. I then got the "please do your research" replies which dried up when I posted a photo of the reference book I was using.

@IronHorseRailways

4 ай бұрын

See that's the cure for the itch, show them they're talking wet 😂

Great Chesterford Junction is an Aussie youtuber, his layout is superb, set in Britain, he uses loads of older models and has some awesome features and he always shows how he does things, his train detection and magnetic 3 link couplings are good also his 3d backscences, point is, he shares all his tricks and techniques for free on his channel. He is definitely a benefit to the hobby, I've learned loads of cool things off Gormo

I have several hobbies, Model trains is one and one of the other hobby is flying RC planes. We have Rivet Counters in RC planes as well. They criticize how an out of the box plane is so incorrect. Don't even build one, you're the devil now. I say to them 10 feet down the runway or 50 feet in the air who can see it let alone who gives a rats a$$. The point is every hobby has trolls who think they are perfect and whatever they do is beyond perfect. Ask to see their work? Ummmm I don't have a way to take a picture or some other lame excuse. Thanks for the video!!!

This is absolutely spot on. I haven't been involved in railway modelling for about 14 years, but debating getting back into it. Scale modelling has similar issues

Well said, I model Z gauge, run a mix of national trains the same time, German, Japanese, my layout, my rules