Gas pump shut off early? SOLVED! Entire evap system explained & troubleshoot on 2005 Chevy Suburban
Part 1 of 4 videos on fixing the gas pump shut off early problem. Likely there is a problem with the "evap" system which commonly fails on Chevy Tahoe and Suburban from 1997-2006. Check engine lights and issues putting gas into the tank where the pump clicks and won't allow any more gas are common symptoms of an evap system issue. My vehicle is a 2005 Chevy Suburban LTZ, 5.3L Flex fuel, 2WD.
Links to parts in this video:
* ACDelco 22963841 Vapor Canister (amzn.to/2BptRP9)
* ACDelco 214-2149 Vapor Canister Vent Solenoid (amzn.to/2Zt9ZTa)
* ACDelco 214-1105 Vapor Canister Purge Valve (amzn.to/31xsk44)
Evap system fix videos:
Part 1: Entire evap system explained & troubleshooting ( • Gas pump shut off earl... )
Part 2: How to replace vapor canister ( • Replace vapor canister... )
Part 3: How to replace vapor canister vent solenoid ( • Install vapor canister... )
Part 4: How to replace vapor canister purge valve ( • Replace vapor canister... )
This may also apply to the Chevy Tahoe, GMC Yukon, GMC Yukon XL.
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Brother this is the only video I could find like this. I really needed this info. You have no idea how much this simple information helped. Can't thank you enough
@shopwarrior1835
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! Welcome!
@HanzelFonferek
2 жыл бұрын
Same! Thanks so much!
Thanks for the video! I replaced the canister first, clogging continued. Replaced the Canister switch, clogging continued! Thanks to your great description of the system, I was able to unclog the vent line from the tank. The vent line is the long one with the white connectors that is connected to the white fitting on top of the tank. I did not drop the fuel tank. I just disconnected the connector from the charcoal cannister, inserted a smaller hose attached to my shop vacuum and started sucking the charcoal bits ( about a cup of charcoal). Used my leaf blower to blow air into the tank thru the fuel filler as suggested by another viewer. Took me about 2 hours to remove the charcoal and clear the vent.
@donaldbradford2442
17 күн бұрын
I'm fixing to do mine, thank you both for the info
@HOSER227
17 күн бұрын
@@donaldbradford2442 I replaced the vapor canister vent valve. The check fuel cap warning kept coming on, so I replaced the front purge solenoid valve which was full of the charcoal pellets. Worked fine for a while until the fuel cap warning came on again. Removed the purge solenoid valve to remove more pellets. The line that attaches to the purge valve was full of charcoal. Was able to clear it with the shop vac and a wire to push the charcoal clogs (another cup of charcoal pellets)! Good luck!
Dude, that video is exactly what I've been needing! Thank you so much. I haven't been able to find an in-depth video on this issue breaking down the entire system like you did.
@shopwarrior1835
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
I have a 2007 JKU. I spend 20+ .minutes filling my tank. I have taken it in multiple times and not ONE mechanic EVER told me about this damn canister. I have rebuilt motors and transmissions, I've never before had issues putting fuel in my vehicles. Thank you soo much for this video.
Dude, you are a LIFE SAVER!!!! 🤩😍🤩 I had never dropped a gas tank before, but thanks to your videos I was able to drop it and clear all of the evap lines and put it back together, and now I can pump gas into my 2005 Suburban Z71 5.3 Flex 😁 I am so frickin happy 😅 Thank you so much!!!!
Wow brother thank you so much for this video. I bypassed the canister and vent valve, by disconnecting the lines and went to the gas station and still had the same issue. Your video just confirmed my suspicion about those little bits I saw when I disconnected the big line Thank you for this. I feel 100% more confident in what I’m doing and what I have to do next. 👍🏽
@shopwarrior1835
2 жыл бұрын
So glad it helped!
This is the only video and source of info I have found on a PO449 problem.Thanks dude you saved me half a headache.
Had the same problem where I couldn't fuel my Yukon. Started by disconnected the EVAP canister and all the little carbon pellets fell out. So, I dropped the tank, cleared all the lines w compressed air and replaced the canister and canister vent solenoid. With all that done I can now fill up the Yukon perfectly. No more shut off issues.
There were some problems with the wind and the sound, but I like the way you laid everything out so we could see the whole system. I'm facing the same problem and am about to get started on the tear down. Thanks again for the video.
@shopwarrior1835
3 жыл бұрын
Ya, the wind is always a challenge! Good luck with your tear down.
Good luck finding a better video than this one! This is really good, great job!
Best video I have seen showing every part in the system. Now i understand how each part works and know what to look for when the CEL pops up.
I ran into this video, AFTER, I did this task. Took me about 6 hours because some of the hoses have their special way of disconnecting.
@jbod9426
23 күн бұрын
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If you live on dirt roads or very dusty environment go with the vent solenoid relocation option. Otherwise you’ll just keep replacing it. Other option is to wrap in with extra filter material and zip tie it around it. Then just replace that filter every so often.
i replaced all 3 and still got the code, now i've dropped the tank and going to replace all the vent lines, 2006 suburban 4x4 z71. i'll let you know if it fixes it. great video by the way. was getting sick of seeing all the other trouble shooting done with a $3000 scan tool
@gidnndhfh
10 ай бұрын
And?????😂😂
I have this exact problem with a 2007 Chevy Tahoe 5.3L . I don't get why some gas station pumps it will pump fine every time I gas up and there's some stations pumps where it does it every time. I would think that it would do it at every gas station. Awesome video...very detailed and informative!!!
Did the holy trinity!! And it finally worked! Check engine light reset and the gas fills... lol mostly.... occasionally clicks off but I read unless you change all hoses it probably always will! Good video my guy!!
@shopwarrior1835
3 жыл бұрын
Holy trinity! Hahaaaa. Welcome sir!
Fantastic! The best explanation I've seen of this super annoying problem on my 05 Yukon (an otherwise great vehicle) Thanks and have an upvote from a new subscriber!
Seriously been looking for a video like this for over a year thank you sir!
Damn dude you’re awesome! You’re the only guy that has videos like this!
I don't know everything! BUT the anti-siphon valve where the filler neck meets the tank is spring loaded and was preventing me from filling up my tank at full force. When I dropped the tank to replace the fuel pump at 160,000 miles I tapped the anti-siphon spring and plastic holder into the tank and retrieved it from the fuel pump hole. I was SO happy when I returned to the filling station and could then fill my tank with the nozzle at full blast. Before this I had to hold the damn nozzle barely open to prevent it from shutting off automatically as the filler neck backed up with fuel. I hope this helps someone. Send me a digital thank you if it does, it would make my day.
@brandonhines1613
2 жыл бұрын
This may be my problem. I've replaced everything but the gas tank???
@MW-sl9lv
Жыл бұрын
I was contemplating the same thing, that there was a similar device in the filler neck area that could be causing this issue. Maybe They (GM) designed that spring a little too strong. I have a 2011 Cadillac Escalade with the same problem. That makes more sense, but I won’t rule out replacing the evap system components as well. Great insight all around.
@qwerty6464
Жыл бұрын
@@MW-sl9lv I think the spring is probably ok - my observation is the plastic part the spring pushed on didn't always slide smoothly, and appeared to tilt and bind instead. If it binds when fuel hits it from the top instead of compressing the spring and flowing into the tank, that would surely slow down the flow of fuel.
@qwerty6464
Жыл бұрын
@@brandonhines1613 Just knock out that anti-siphon valve after dropping the tank (when empty of fuel). Then retrieve the part and spring from the fuel pump hole. I suppose a person could leave them in there as they are way too large for the fuel pump to attempt to pick up. They'd just be permanent residents of the tank lol.
OMG Make a video like this for ever system on ever vehicle... mechanics will be out of a job!!! YOUR AMAZING!!!
@shopwarrior1835
3 жыл бұрын
Haha! Maybe one day! Thanks Blake.
What a gift! thank you for the thorough explanation. I feel equipped to address my problem thanks to you.
That is a very well-thought-of and detailed process you just showed us
@shopwarrior1835
2 жыл бұрын
Good! Glad to hear that!
While I don't doubt this might work for me. Turning the gas pump handle upside down as I'm filling up works to and is easier so i'll probably do that. It's worth a shot if anyone out there is still having this problem.
This was awesome in delivery and informative and very thorough and exact. Kudos to you!!!
I just subscribed ….your channel is a no brainer ….best mechanic video I have ever seen
Thanks for the video, although the orientation is different on the trucks compared to the SUV's, this still gave me an idea on how it all worked and did help me fix and diagnose my truck.
I have the same problem and I just changed the solenoid system. The gas pump clicks off so I use a home made aperatus. That's how it is when buying a used car. I will save your video for reference.
This is my next project. My car is hesitating at startup when parked for a while. It's also difficult to fuel. Sometimes it's also smell like gas.
I unhooked the lines and stuck a leaf blower in my gas inlet and blew all the bits out. Saved me from dropping fuel tank.
@crazygorillabear
2 жыл бұрын
@@dh6984 no, I didnt let the fuel out. The vent line is at the top. You will just be pushing air through it out to the lines you disconnected
@crazygorillabear
2 жыл бұрын
@@dh6984 yes, where you put the gas in.
@DJKadilac
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, so let me get this straight. You disconnected the lines to the vapor canister, then opened up the gas cap and blew air from a leaf blower into the gas filler neck?
@brettb2951
Жыл бұрын
Where did you unhook the lines? At the canister filter?
@letstryit6248
Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure this is pure genius.
This is the video to watch if your having fill up problems. 😊
@couchrider6228
3 жыл бұрын
@A Nonymuss u r a fuelish commenter.
If you've had carbon into the evap lines...you have to completely blow all lines out before replacing the components. Carbon bits get stuck in the lines particularly above the tank. Works best if dropping tank , remove lines and tap while blowing both directions
This is one of the best damn How To/DIY videos!!!! Got right to it!!!
I just fixe this on my daughter's corolla. It was a spider's nest in the vent output hose from the canister. It's open to atmosphere and just hangs below the canister. I dug the nest out and now it fills with no problems. Check this hose first before ripping into your system. This is a common cause.
This happened to me, so... I did all the things you said, it's a lot of work, but it does fill up normally now. Literally pellets everywhere.
I have a 2011 Suburban. You can hear the air coming up the filler neck and turning off the fuel nozzle. I can get around a gallon if each click of the nozzle. Where do you think my problem is? Valve at the engine? Or the EVAP at the fuel tank?
Well done video and series. Extremely informative and precise.
@shopwarrior1835
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
Bro i have question i just bought a brand new car like 4 months ago.,, everytime i gas up usually overfill my gas tank, like 5 times already did. Im worried that my evap or canister is affected..are my evap system still safe? Swear il never overfill it again. Im just worried.
best video i've seen on this, thanks so much.
@shopwarrior1835
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
I changed all 3 of those components and I didn't see any carbon bits coming out of any of the lines or components and I'm still having the same issues (evap code and issues putting gas in my 09 Avalanche) any other suggestions?
I had the same problem with my truck kicking off the fill nozzle every time I try to fill the tank but found my canister was not plugged. The little carbon BBs inside the canister had gone down the tank vent tube and plugged it up at the point where it attaches to the tank. I had to vacuum the BBs out of the tube and the problem is now solved.
bro you just fixed this issue for me and it worked
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!! For breaking down each line
Having replaced my 2003 yukons fuel pump twice, I cut a hole in my floor below my rear seat. (cut 3 sides of a rectangle and bent it back) I did that to replace my tank pressure sensor. I've already replaced that charcoal canister and everything else and I'm still getting the evap performance code. I thinl this might be the issue. Pretty sure I can blow everything out without dropping the tank. Thanks for the video
@jedarramorriss7064
5 ай бұрын
Were you able to blow out the lines without dropping the tank? I just finished after dropping the gas tank and I had to really shake out the lines by hand to get all of the pellets out. It did work though.
@fastj1962
5 ай бұрын
@@jedarramorriss7064 I haven’t done it yet but I did check my old canister and nothing came out
What the line that goes up with the fuel filler neck? Thats a vent too right but why they need that one ? For venting fueling up i assume but does that one vent to atmosphere ?
Hey, I have a 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan rt, and it has a fueling problem, every time I go to the gas station and start fueling, it stop at $10 and then stops every $0.10 to $0.50 cents. I think it has something to do with the charcoal canister. But no one was able to understand. I’m in Springfield IL. Where can I go to fix this and what is the problem. Also do you have any suggestions on what to purchase for a fuel efficient car, and under 110k miles and under $14k.
If my charcoal canister had gas in it ( came out the large port next to the solenoid port), do I need to drop tank and blow out lines. No carbon bits. 2005 Chevy Tahoe with 240k miles! Solenoid was full of road dust, since I like to take the backroads.
This is a great breakdown of the system. Thank you!!
What other symptoms would this issue cause? Any driving issues like a loss of power?
Great video. I can only put in like $8 before gas spills out. The gas station pump nozzle not clicking. But I don't know why my gas tank is refusing to accept more fuel? I've checked all hoses and charcoal canister. Everything is intact. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
I have a 2005 Yukon XL Denali with this problem. It is not a “flex fuel” model. Are the parts all the same for regular gas systems?
I have the same issue, Is this set up the same a 03 Chevy trailblazer LT 4.2L ?
The small evap line, next to where you fill up gas, should that line have gas in it? Disconnected that line and some gas came out of it. I have an issue with some gas spilling when refueling.
Does evap cause terrible gas mileage?
Well they sure did make a fuel tank into a monstrosity all because of fumes and the damned ozone.
Codes coming up? If you suddenly have codes popping up, ask yourself this. "Has my battery gone completely dead recently or did I change the battery myself" If yes, drive your car through the manufacturer specific, driving recycling procedure to re-boot your computer. A lot of things can be fixed by just idling from a cold start for a few minutes while turning on every electricity item in the car. AC, rear defroster, radio, lights, etc.
What if I did all the steps from blowing out the lines and replacing all three parts and it still clicks when I try to fuel up. Do you know what else it can be?
@moeelissa2981
2 жыл бұрын
Fuel tank
When you’re talking the “tubes” that connect the different parts…can I clean these or do I need to replace them as well?
@shopwarrior1835
2 жыл бұрын
Cleaning the lines/tubes should be sufficient. But, definitely check for any cracks or holes in the lines while cleaning. I didn't replace any of mine.
we did all this and when blowed lines nothing came out but still problems filling, i suspect that big line has a problem where the small lines merge, a friend said he had to change that big line where they merge and fixed it , anybody else had to go that far?
@DrunkPisces
3 жыл бұрын
If your going to go through the effort of lowering the fuel tank to remove the line assembly off the top you might as well use hot soapy water to fill the lines let them soak and then blow it out with an air compressor. I've used simple Green and hot water in a trash can overnight. And had great results. My other suggestion would be stopped buying all these replacement parts and just replace the internal filters. The solenoid valve has a pop top. Replacement filter source any high-density foam cut to fit. The charcoal canister has a pop top. Dispose of the fuel soaked charcoal. Go to the pet store and buy the pre-bagged charcoal filters. Fill the canister with the charcoal. Use a little RTV sealant to ensure that you don't have an air leak when you place the lid back on top. Do you not top off your tank ever again. Problem solved.
Thank you very much for being so informative.
@shopwarrior1835
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
I have had this problem for months. I replaced the carbon canister first; didn’t fix the problem. Replaced the fuel tank pressure sensor mounted into the top of the gas tank, but that didn’t fix the problem. Then I replaced the solenoid with the 2 hoses (1 going to charcoal canister and the other hose which is secured to the fill tube by zip ties). Still didn’t fix the problem. Please advise on any suggestions.
@jedarramorriss7064
5 ай бұрын
You'll need to drop the gas tank to remove the evap lines from the top of the tank and shake out all of the little charcoal pellets. I just finished the job and it worked immediately.
Thanks for the vid! Question, I've seen other videos where compressed air is just blown in the purge valve while the gas cap is off...is that sufficient?..or wreckless?..would it harm any other components, or lines?
My 07 tahoe is having the same problems. I have already replaced all 3 parts and I'm still having the same problems. Honestly it's gotten worse
@brandonhines1613
2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I've replaced everything but the gas tank.
also what is that tan colored valve that one of the line hook to ? can that cause it? rollover valve?
Helped out a lot, thank you!
My purge solenoid is clicking super fast when the engine is hot and it does all the time I changed all the components and still clicking like crazy and I don’t have any codes 🤷🏻♂️🤯🤯 also changed the solenoid with an ac Delco and is clicking too!! Help!!
One of the frustrating things that professionals have to deal with is cars that have already had multiple components replaced, yet the issue persists. Aftermarket components are usually inferior and sometimes bad, right out of the box! So a professional workflow takes a little bit more effort to verify which part is bad. If you choose to spend money up front and shoot the parts cannon, remember to hang on to and label your old parts so a pro can retrace the steps.
@shopwarrior1835
3 жыл бұрын
Good advice! Everyone take note. Also, I agree on the cheap parts. Having tried the cheap parts over the years, I no longer fool with them. I try to buy the best OEM parts I can, in this case AC Delco.
Anyway to clear lines without dropping the tank?
@ksmith3116
11 ай бұрын
Try a shop vac.
Will it keep your car getting gas to injester
Ok now I understand what I'm doing and how it works, thanks.
You think this would cause a misfire?
Awesome, so well done! Thank you! Question: Is there a sequence where I could disconnect a line from one of the components, turn the engine on, and effectively clear the line of carbon so that I don't have to drop the tank? Once the lines are cleared I would then replace the component in the engine compartment and the vapor canister, and finally the evap vent solenoid valve back by the tank. Your comments appreciated! Again, thank you!
What are the two lines that go up under the filler neck into a small square box
There is a God. Thanx
I've been driving mine for three years with the engine light on and the p0449 code. It hesitates a little bit of takeoffs other than that I don't see what the big deal is. I was told to check my gas cap it seems to be okay. Also I didn't see if you said anything about the top of the engine EVAP like I have seen on other KZreads.
Hi we have enjoyed your video very much here is our problem.... We have a 2005 suburban Z71 1500, our problem is the gas shuts off after s couple of seconds watching your video we had the vapor canister replaced along with the purge valve also the canister vent solenoid we also had all lines blown out..we still have the problem but not as severe what do you suggest at this point? What more can we do to remedy this problem your advice is much appreciated Thank you so much
Good afternoon sr There was allot of good n awesome info A little too much repetition over n over n other then the charcoal pebbles U also do a most important n jet simple step Put air into the line from the gas tank to the canister if it has a back blow "kick back" it's bad " This will keep u from putting ⛽ in N the vent valve remains open unless the computer is doing a pressure test while running can n simply blow into it🙈 N very rarely the valve inside the tank can go bad as well Not judging Just positive info Good luck.
Perfect video 😊 Thank You 👍
Yo thank you SO much for this video! 🙏🏽
Im having issues as well while fueling but mine is spilling out the vent solenoid and it recently started to over flow out the filler tube. I replaced the vent solenoid, charcoal canister, blew out the lines but I'm still having fueling issues. When I replaced the canister it fueled normal for about three fill ups and then started having issues again. I noticed fuel was going into the charcoal canister and also sending it to the purge valve which I also replaced on the engine side which was causing it to run rough and throw a P0300 code. I cleaned out the canister removed al the fuel inside and blew out the lines andit did help it for about a day with the running rough issue but it seems like it starting to push fuel again to the purge valve and causing it to run rough again. This is on a 2007 Silverado 1500 classic. Any suggestion on what I should do next or what it could be?
@drewbriggs6339
2 жыл бұрын
Did you fix it?
@crisgarcia6564
2 жыл бұрын
@@drewbriggs6339 naw man i havent. I just fill up slow and for the running rough issue all i did was disconnect the valve so it stays stuck closed. Plus i dont drive it a lot so i havent put too much time into it. It just seems the tank is holding pressure and it pushes the fuel out
@drewbriggs6339
2 жыл бұрын
@@crisgarcia6564 ended up drilling a hole in the top of the tank and tapping it with a hose and it works fine now
@crisgarcia6564
2 жыл бұрын
@@drewbriggs6339 you had the same issue? And yeah i thought about that too. Making a breather on top right? So it stops holding pressure in the tank
Hey I replace all those parts and clean all the hoses and still have problem I don’t know what to do next
1:09 mine is full of charcoal pellets is that normal??
Got 2007 tahoe just had shop replace fuel pump now i cant fill gas and befor i could. Any chance when they put tank back up they pinch vent hose? Wat should i try to fix? tried to blow out hoses and no charcoal bbs came out.
@highlifegoodlife5400
8 ай бұрын
Also I told the shop and I had warranty on parts and labor and they won't look at it again unless I pay for another diagnostic and I don't wanna give that place another dollar
Changed all the parts and still can’t pump gas! It still keeps clicking off
@truthhurts7869
2 жыл бұрын
Me to, must be pellets in the lines blocking like he said in the beginning,drop the tank an blow out the lines
I have p0443. Should I just replaced the three components? I just did the purge valve and the code just came back on.
@shopwarrior1835
3 жыл бұрын
I suggest replacing all the components. The two components near the gas tank will definitely fail at some point.
fuel pressure sensor is important also. can throw code po446.
Bro this is an amazing video 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯 finally just dropped my tank I'm unplugging all this shit I'll rip it all out and I'm not putting that carbon canister back in it has to be something else to replace that
The hose to the white plug is fuel return from engine.
Great video very informative! Do you know what the part number or name of the hose that’s attached to the tank that attaches to that white nipple and wraps around the tank?
I had a guy to change all the parts to the fuel system, but he didn't blow out the vent lines.
I was having trouble filling my 2013 Chevrolet 1500. It would take me 15 minutes or so to fill up my truck if it was under 1/4 tank. Replaced the vapor canister solenoid including the hoses and electrical connection. After spending $135 and 3 hours removing the old one and installing the new one, it did not solve my problem. I did a lot of research on this problem and just about all videos said to do what I did. Does anyone else have any suggestions.
@waynebell3452
3 жыл бұрын
@China Boss, I replaced it also. Didn’t help one little bit.
@fighthard21
3 жыл бұрын
I disconnected the system....the vapor canister is probably dead (cracked up/split). I went to the gas station and the gas flew into the tank. I'm thinking about not reconnecting it.
@dougmorgan510
3 жыл бұрын
Ive done the same stuff using all ac delco never solved my problem. Huge pain in the arse
@boominator64
3 жыл бұрын
@@fighthard21 has your vehicle passed a smog check with the unit unconnected?
@buckhutton3834
3 жыл бұрын
Thankfully I live in a state that does not do the smog test.
Have exact vehicle with 286,000 on the clock. Having same problems, and have all three parts already. What's the best way you found to removed the clipped hoses?
Thank you so much freaking awesome very informative bless day keep up the great videos
@shopwarrior1835
2 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
My 96 k2500 7.4 is totally different than yours gm really complicated it in later years.
You can use a vacuum to suck out the lines
Great video, thanks!
Does this work on any make and model?
Best example ever
I have a 2005 Yukon XL that is doing this.
Awesome video.......thank you so much