GAS LENS VS DIFFUSER-Which tig welding setup WINS?

Which tig welding setup is BETTER? Let's put them head to head today and compare the differences to see which one does the NICER work, and I think you'll be surprised at the results!
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  • @PacificArcTigWelding
    @PacificArcTigWelding6 ай бұрын

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  • @chuckpeterson478
    @chuckpeterson4786 ай бұрын

    35 cfh through a 6 cup? Maybe 15-20? Having the same gas flow through two wildly different cup sizes is no equal comparison!

  • @VictorMPR

    @VictorMPR

    6 ай бұрын

    I thought the same. Maybe if he used a #6 cup on a gas lens to match the #6 with diffuser would have been a better comparison.

  • @taylorhudson166

    @taylorhudson166

    5 ай бұрын

    I came here to ask this. No way he’s flowing 35 cfh through a 6? I can’t imagine the weld would look as nice flowing so much turbulent gas through a six?

  • @J.T323
    @J.T3236 ай бұрын

    Why didn't you use the same cup sizes?

  • @retel8r
    @retel8r3 ай бұрын

    Virtually never welded in my life, just bought a Unimig viper 195 here in Aus & first sampled with some stainless welds & with clear cup & gas lens i got some beautiful colours & great results considering a first timer, technology is always changing, sure there are those who will stick to what they know after many moons of welding their style but gas lenses i see are a vast improvement. Just saying! Great vids as always thanks bro 😎

  • @gangleweed
    @gangleweed2 ай бұрын

    Welding is a process that if you get enough weld material on you can grind it off to make the joint presentable......that's my way and it works..........I use a plasma welder mostly and tig for odd jobs..

  • @ronmarshall725
    @ronmarshall7256 ай бұрын

    Love watching your videos! BUT, I think we have some parts definition problems here. I believe you are calling a "collet body" a "diffuser". A "diffuser" is the screen piece in the large glass cups. The piece with the "gas holes" is a "collet body". The "gas lens" is the piece that replaces the "collet body" that has the diffuser screens built in.

  • @willwatlington6750
    @willwatlington67506 ай бұрын

    Stupid question, but is a “gas saver lens” & a “gas lens” the same thing?

  • @davidcashin9194
    @davidcashin91946 ай бұрын

    The setup I use is a stubby gas lens with a Jazzy 12 cup with 12 litres per min gas flow and I get great results on stainless, my machine is an Everlast 210EXT.

  • @HochstartHarry

    @HochstartHarry

    6 ай бұрын

    You could go with less argon.. ive experimented and ive been able to weld my 12 with as little as 3l per minute.. obviusly not outside corners.. but i never run more than 12l per min and i ussally use a size 25 glass cup...

  • @gregwilkins7649
    @gregwilkins76496 ай бұрын

    The arc shots in this video look amazing. Great video qualit.

  • @davidhutchings8679
    @davidhutchings86796 ай бұрын

    All my work is now through a gas lens. I have been TIG welding for 30 years and only in the last two changed to a Furick gas lens setup. I weld all materials including Aluminium. Love your videos dude

  • @highpsiguy4085

    @highpsiguy4085

    3 ай бұрын

    Do you notice a benefit to a gas lens setup with alu? I've heard so many people say stay away from a lens on alu. The only answer I've heard as to why was because "it's not necessary". But I've never heard anything more in depth as to why. I've spent years watching Jody on KZread like everyone else. And he's always said there's no need. I'm more interested in if there's a BENEFIT that's noticeable

  • @vehdynam
    @vehdynam6 ай бұрын

    Thank you , very informative as always.

  • @danshafer4979
    @danshafer49796 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Dusty. Great video, I like using a gas lens. I'm new to tig welding I need to practice way more though 😊

  • @ChrisHTW
    @ChrisHTW5 ай бұрын

    I appreciate your channel. I find your information to be spot on and very helpful to every welder from the novice to the professionals like myself. There are many ways to get get from A to Z in the welding profession, and I find your informational help to be very real and helpful to everyone. Thank you. Chris Razor HITWI

  • @chriswoods2263
    @chriswoods22636 ай бұрын

    Great video. My pick that I use is a standard collet on non-reactive materials like ally, and a gas lens for mild steel, Chromoly steel and stainless steel, the big advantage with the gas lens is stickout for reaching harder to get at spots

  • @larrymoore5394
    @larrymoore53946 ай бұрын

    I use #12 glass lens and it works great 😊

  • @user-pg1oq7xo7x
    @user-pg1oq7xo7x6 ай бұрын

    I have been tig welding for about 7 years now mostly stainless steel when i first started my company provides standard diffusers and number 5 cups on our miller stl 160's about 4 years ago i decided to buy a gas lens setup to try and the change in qaulity of welds i laid amazed me so i now provide them for my crew and i use them at home as well on my projects with stainless steel mild steel and aluminum

  • @teddyroweshow5643
    @teddyroweshow56436 ай бұрын

    Gas lens. I still struggle with diffusers. Awesome video.

  • @SimbaCortez1320
    @SimbaCortez13206 ай бұрын

    Do aluminum next Diffuser vs gas lens 5 vs 8

  • @patricksalmon3494
    @patricksalmon34946 ай бұрын

    Super comparaison entre le diffuseur normal et le diffuseur à lentille Merci Dusti

  • @1959BB
    @1959BB6 ай бұрын

    I use a diffuser, but that's mainly because I do general welding on ali, steel, stainless and cast iron. When I do Stainless its usually for an exhaust where access is important and the smaller diameter diffuser helps that over a honking great gas lens.

  • @peatergriffin
    @peatergriffin6 ай бұрын

    I use a 10 or 12 on stainless, a 10 or 8 on steel and I switch between a short standard 5 and a gas lens 5 or 6 for Aluminium. Most are from a big Furick kit I bought with my welder but the small gas lenses are just cheap glass 5 and 6 from somewhere but I really like them.

  • @drew9808
    @drew98085 ай бұрын

    One of the best uses of a gas lens is they afford a much longer stick out of tungsten for those hard to reach areas. Almost an inch in some setups.

  • @michaelszczys8316
    @michaelszczys8316Ай бұрын

    Where i work they just got me a new inverter welder with gas lens gun. The old transformer welder had a diffuser gun setup. For the junk i weld they both work fine except some of the junk i have to ' repair ' requires going over welds made by plasma welding machines and going over those welds they ' pop ' and ' spit ' and gunk up my electrodes real fast and on the new gas lens gun it gunks up the little screen. Not all tig welders get to make nice pretty dime stacks all day. Some of us have to use a nice pretty machine and all the talent we can muster to weld crappy material that makes us look like we cant weld in the first place. Life in the real world.

  • @T7ZIAN
    @T7ZIAN6 ай бұрын

    I always use a Gas Lens. Jazzy 10 for Steel/Stainless. BBW for Titanium. 20Style Diffusor with Number 5 Cup for Aluminium.

  • @ChrisHTW
    @ChrisHTW5 ай бұрын

    I take the gas defuser and drilled .040 diameter holes in between the existing holes and found the gas flow to be similar to using a gas lens without the cost of the gas lens defuser and the gas lens cup. It's about slowing down the gas existing the defuser to steady the flow of gas surrounding the weld puddle. There is still enough crossection of the defuser to conduct the current in the defuser to the tungsten. I use a #6 nozzle and 3/32 2% thoriated tungsten. Preflow and postflow are the same. Chris Razor HTWI

  • @Bulldog_65_2
    @Bulldog_65_26 ай бұрын

    I use a EDGE #12 for normal stainless. #15 for art , #8-10 for mild, and I can't do aluminum but if I could probably #6ish

  • @user-kh2yl6nn3l
    @user-kh2yl6nn3l6 ай бұрын

    Surprised what the standard cup turned out like . But it took some serious gas flow . But I use a standard #5 for al. and Furick #10 on up for everything else . :)

  • @neilf.7222
    @neilf.72226 ай бұрын

    I use gas lens when I’ve got lots of room, but will use diffusers when in tight spaces or in the field. Diffusers are pretty durable and less expensive.

  • @devynselnes4282
    @devynselnes42826 ай бұрын

    "carbide precipitation" is what that oxide is called 🎉🎉🎉

  • @trevordeemie674
    @trevordeemie6746 ай бұрын

    I do environmental work for a living... I'm licensed and under a full medical surveillance program... That half face respirator is a standard HEPA that is rated for dust and debris... You want a Organic Vapor Cartridge... you always give great information... Please pass this information on so people don't see that your wearing a standard P100 half face and think that it's safe, because it's not...

  • @dack42

    @dack42

    6 ай бұрын

    What organic vapors would be present here? My understanding is that P100 filters are standard practice for welders, and particulates are the primary hazard. I would expect metal particulates, but I don't see any source for organic vapors when it's all clean metal. Ozone should also be minimal, since the arc is shielded with argon.

  • @vernhood4568

    @vernhood4568

    6 ай бұрын

    @@dack42 www.osha.gov/hexavalent-chromium

  • @tomthompson7400
    @tomthompson74006 ай бұрын

    cut the gas flow by 1/3 and see how the lens performs , ie will it pay for its self .

  • @georgeanet411
    @georgeanet4116 ай бұрын

    I am not judging your job or opinion but hey man what kind of a comparison is this 35cfh to the 6🥳? Or even better why you didn’t just compare the 2 of them with the same number of cup Again not trying to be the smart here but it’s just simple math

  • @phillipmitchell184
    @phillipmitchell1844 ай бұрын

    I use a size ten diffuser set up For .9mm up to 2mm stainless steel with gas on regulator range from 12 to 24 and size 5 diffuser on .9mm mirror stainless steel with gas on regulator at 30 up to 45 lots of gas and short runs LET IT COOL DOWN BRO NO RUSH !

  • @jefflowrythor
    @jefflowrythor6 ай бұрын

    Do you have or have you used any of HTP/Stel welding machines? I would be interested in seeing their use in your demonstrations.

  • @jamesdaleb6966
    @jamesdaleb69665 ай бұрын

    Gas lens looks like more amp a more compatible test would have amperage sent on panel of course speed in travel will also change

  • @runifuceeme406
    @runifuceeme4066 ай бұрын

    HOW DO YOU FILM YOUR WELDS AS YOU WELD CLOSE UP?.. HOW DO YOU MAKE A WELDING CAMERA?

  • @HochstartHarry
    @HochstartHarry6 ай бұрын

    I do most my tig work in my shop, so i naturally use a lens.. i learned on diffusors and bought a pack of stubby gas lens ceramic cups on ebay for like 20€.. tried them and im never going back. I have a huge 25 glass cup for most my tig stuff, and will only use smaller stuff when i need to, i can weld 1mm stainless without any discoloration on an outside corner... that is impossible with a Diffusor.

  • @pull5034
    @pull50346 ай бұрын

    With the gas lens can you drop the cfh ?

  • @coreyandnathanielchartier3749
    @coreyandnathanielchartier37495 ай бұрын

    Welding .035 4130 tubes with 35 amps on foot pedal, #6 diffuser 12cfh. Just bought the Prime Weld with pulse...seems to allow a thicker fillet with the same heat settings as straight amps. Also forgiving to my poor eyes and occasional shakey hands.

  • @trailerpark187
    @trailerpark1876 ай бұрын

    I love my pannoramaxx lens but the headgear pisses me off, lol. Never stays up and the knobs keep coming loose. #8 gas lens on almost everything i weld

  • @sailboattrash
    @sailboattrash6 ай бұрын

    using a different sized cup on a comparison? c'mon man. use a #8 gas lens and a #8 diffuser. FFS. so skewed.

  • @YT-User1013

    @YT-User1013

    6 ай бұрын

    I agree. The real comparison is in the Google image at 2:56

  • @highpsiguy4085

    @highpsiguy4085

    3 ай бұрын

    That's not 100% true.

  • @GregariousAntithesis
    @GregariousAntithesisАй бұрын

    Note, that is a dust mask zero good for fumes, you meed a actual respirator cartridge

  • @larrymoore5394
    @larrymoore53946 ай бұрын

    Good morning

  • @maxliptack5404
    @maxliptack54045 ай бұрын

    What respirator are you using?

  • @kinezongu2649
    @kinezongu26496 ай бұрын

    I’m getting a lot of porosity in my aluminium, I clean as much as possible but still get it , could you make a video on this brother , how to prevent this , thx . Loving all the videos btw , been a long term follower

  • @kinezongu2649

    @kinezongu2649

    6 ай бұрын

    And how to weld dirty aluminium, painted aluminium, cast aluminium, And how to to tie in’s . Thanks

  • @user-vc2ix6tc1i
    @user-vc2ix6tc1i6 ай бұрын

    Дасти спасибо за тот огромный труд который ты делаеш для нас. Спасибо за приглашение обучаться у тебя в школе. Но ты пойми что бы к тебе приехать для меня стоит дороже чем обучение. А так спасибо большое за твой труд в просторах интернета. Работа с нержавейкой для меня очень актуальна. С учетом на наш грязный аргон и китайские машины для тиг сварки, мы очень пытаемся сделать то о чем ты нам говориш. Иногда получается иногда не очень.С уважением С.Легаев.

  • @humourless682
    @humourless6825 ай бұрын

    Gas lens means far higher gas consumption, and less penetration on most welds. Good for pretty looking social media welds, but not a great idea for any sort of serious AL welding.

  • @petermuller161
    @petermuller161Ай бұрын

    I think I may be using 2x the needed amperage...

  • @ExpeditionTundraBeast
    @ExpeditionTundraBeast6 ай бұрын

    I hate dealing with gassholes.😂

  • @billyjarvis27
    @billyjarvis276 ай бұрын

    Use the same size cup and the correct cfh then that will be a correct comparison

  • @timboslice1984
    @timboslice1984Ай бұрын

    Some ac/dc tig torch vids need a display in video to show what actual output amp the user is demanding from pedal. @pacificarcwelding

  • @SalMolinare
    @SalMolinare4 ай бұрын

    Gas lens all day everyday.

  • @GregariousAntithesis
    @GregariousAntithesisАй бұрын

    Nice converse welding boots, you need a lab coat.

  • @leewelbanks6366
    @leewelbanks63663 ай бұрын

    This is not a good sample test, the gas through that # 6 is much too high, no wonder the arc is all over the place.

  • @jacobwells618
    @jacobwells6186 ай бұрын

    🪙🪙💙👍🙏

  • @robertoviana514
    @robertoviana5146 ай бұрын

    I would not call that a comparison. And you know that! It was a deceitful sales pitch.😮 two thumbs down. Show some integrity and compare the two using the same size lenses on Both. You just lost a subscriber .

  • @dougtenney1029

    @dougtenney1029

    6 ай бұрын

    Hmmm, yeah.