Gary’s mic was messed up for the first 2 minutes. Micheal fixed it right away, so you might notice Gary’s sound change in the first 2 minutes of the audio. Sorry about that!

Great intro. My son just applied to 208. He is excited as he should be. Completed test and waiting for interview. The financial sacrifice for first couple of years was definately a discussion. I introduced him to a couple of 208 members who I worked with on my jobsite (Im a BAS electrician). They were very encouraging to him. Now a position just needs to open up.

The pension is one of the greatest things that the United Association offers. My Financial Advisor said there is hardly anyway a 401k offered what my pensions does. A worker would have to have about 1.2 million in a 401k saved to equal what my pension pays. Not sure how many trade workers retire with over a million dollars in a 401k. Keep up the great work brother Gary.

Awesome interview; tons of info for any young kids looking for a high paying exciting job. Gary was very impressive with his display of deep and helpful information from his years of experience in the field.

I came up with a bad idea about unions but what I can say is the the training and education that 208 provides is top notch. A trade school does not turn out experts like the apprenticeship does. In addition, I have had experiences and exposure to things I otherwise wouldn’t have. I’ve worked on liquid cooled supercomputers for the government. I’ve worked on environmental chambers that test equipment before it goes into space for a major aerospace company, I’ve worked on MRI machines, microscopes and telescopes… Opportunity is available, the rest is what you choose to do with it!

Awesome episode! Provides a ton of insight.

Great interview!

Jeremiah this is good I remember you as an apprentice and as my boss I hope I didn't treat you too bad 😂

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And I remember Gary as an apprentice And now he is my business manager good job to both of you

Another interesting episode. The training program really exposes how overpriced the current university programs are.