Great review! Seems like a cool product, will definitely be adding this to my wish list of future home equipment!

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

I currently have a Schwinn 800ic and have been using it for the last few months. I really liked it so far (especially using magnetic resistance) and it led me to start road cycling(I bought an old carbon bike with di2). But it does not cover my Zwift rides completely and I especially hate manually adjusting resistance while breathing from my *ss. And this bike exactly covers what is missing from my current one. auto-adjusting resistance with the app, ability to shift gears, I can stop pedaling for a moment (peloton bikes are not really preventing, it forces your foot to move on), auto-adjust fan to my upper body (I am using a normal fan and it keeps my feet cold and makes too cold while warmup and not enough cold while pushing). Basically, this will be my next big purchase definitely.

Can you do a review on the ENGO 2 sunglasses? I really enjoy your reviews and I would like your perspective on these sunglasses for cycling and running.

Now we just need them to reduce the price

@_trust9994

Жыл бұрын

Neo is $1.5k

@John-dh1gh

5 ай бұрын

That pink light is what makes it expensive 🤣

Looks like a great exercise bike to have for those with spare cash and room. I wonder does bikes like these start to creak eventually for heavier riders? BTW Des, you know tons of bodybuilders are going to hate you and possibly unsubscribe because you actually have calf muscles? :D great review as always 👍

Wow, thanks. I didn't know Garmin made exercise equipment

@dzikoo

Жыл бұрын

They did not until recently. Tacx used to be an independent company, but they were acquired by Garmin in 2019.

Super nice bike. I have used it for a week now and I'm super happy with it. The only thing missing is the chance to implement gearing options for 2 separate riders. Me and my wife we both use the Neo bike but our real bikes gearing setup is different. I use SRAM 2x12 and she's using 1x12. It would be super helpful if it would be possible to save these ifferences in the phone app and overwrite/sync them before every ride. At the moment the only option is to enter the sprocket sizes every time by hand.

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

Great suggestion!

@sitarkhani

Жыл бұрын

You have the Plus? Does road feel work with Zwift due to it being a new version of Bluetooth? Thx

Love the robotic film work here 🙌 Ok, where is the DesMusic channel. 🎸 Just wondering because I'm itching to sub. I'm also a pretty strong cyclists and can hold 11 to 12 watt sprints as well. . . oh you said 1100. Forget I said anything. One of these days, a company is going to come up with an electric setting for 2-3 different positions. It'd be amazing for couples that share these very expensive indoor bikes. Amazing review as always Des! 👏

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

My guitar skills aren’t quite up to snuff yet for public consumption. 😉 Totally agree that a bike with electronic fit settings would be amazing. Thanks Matt!

I bought the old version a month ago (at 20% discount I couldn't leave it there 🙂). The first thing I had to complain about was the adjustment levers. That was crazy-stupid engineering. My two sons are also using it and adjusting the height is inconvenient to say the least. Glad to see that Tacx recognized it too and improved on it. (costs nothing). None of us have problem with rubbing the frame. The erg mode really sucks. My 12+ old Tunturi ergometer is doing a better job holding set power. And it was mentioned in all previous reviews. I wonder why Tacx can't make it better. As for that skip, what DP Lama complained about in his review, I haven't experienced it. Maybe, because I don't push so hard, started only base training and me not being a real pro cyclist can't even reach that power level. As of now I'm happy with the bike and the improvements are in the good direction. There are still some room.

We got a peloton last Christmas and I love it. But now I want this thing

Great review.👍🏽

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Hi - so, will road feel work with this version of Bluetooth and Zwift? Don’t want to buy it then wait for who knows how long for an update from Zwift. Thanks, and I like your videos. Well done.

I have just subscribed to your channel and I have a question for you. I know you said that you do not need a tablet for this bike, but if you want to use Zwift or any of the other bike apps I would need to add the cost getting a new tablet as mine packed up over 2 years ago. Doing so means that it brings my total cost to that of the Technogym Ride. Should I just go for the Technogym Ride? What do you think?

Super job on a comprehensive and balanced review. I’ve been riding the Neo 2t smart trainer for a couple years so I’m used to the feel of the Garmin ERG mode. Are you suggesting the Plus ERG experience is less than Neo 2T?

Right on time Des! Would you say the grade change on the wahoo is just a cool gimick or actually increases the fun factor? I heard the wobble could be problematic.

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

I didn't necessarily find it to be problematic and it's fun at first but can certainly wear off over time. The issue I ran into though with the KICKR bike is that it could develop creaks over time since there are so many junctures with all the different components and you'd have to track those down and tighten them at times to solve them.

@Witcherworks

Жыл бұрын

@@DesFit if you had to pick one over the other what would your choice be?

Great review, thanks! I noticed when you were riding that your iPad was jiggling. I would think that would be bothersome when riding. Is there any way to solid that up any, or is it just the trainer itself moving back and forth? Thanks again.

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

The jiggling is just from the piece that attaches to the LCD display to hold the iPad. It's not all that bothersome and usually only happens on harder efforts. Just riding along it seems to be pretty stable. Thanks!

Excellent, informative review! Do the quality of pedals matter on a trainer bike (Shimano 105 vs Ultegra vs DuraAce)? Or just get the least expensive that have same basic characteristics as my regular road bike? I’d rather not spend the extra money if it makes little to no difference (weight doesn’t seem to be an issue with a stationary bike). Thanks!

@DesFit

6 ай бұрын

Nope, no difference. Just which ever ones provide the engagement that you prefer.

I bought the previous model just 1-2 months ago and I'm very happy with it. Silence is golden! The changes are nice. but I don't regret that I have the old model. Also a big plus: I could do a comfortable bike fit, time and time again. Never felt that good on my tri bars (glad I could put them on the Neo). Now I know that my next road bike will be a size bigger than the old one.

@_trust9994

Жыл бұрын

You might have a loose left crank issue (do not panick); it's a well known issue and can be solved.

Bit of a weird question, are the gears limited to ones you could get in real life? For example of course a 2x12 setup is completely normal, but could you instead have a 1x18 or something ridiculous like that? Just curious because it seems easier to just have one massive virtual cassette and only have to bother changing up and down on the rear, rather than having to bother with changing at the front 🤷‍♂

Any comment on this relative to the Kickr bike (v1 or2). Debating between race and Kickr - for multiple users (one with SRAM trap 2x12 and me with Shimano 2x11… does the Kickr offer profiles for different users?

How do you feel about the static nature of a smart bike vs a trainer with your own frame (esp. one like the 3M that allows movement front-back and side-to-side? Other reviewers say they find themselves wanting to get off the bike occasionally bc of it’s lack of movement. This is what the first release should have been and at the $2799 price! Great review, thanks!

@DesFit

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! I tend to prefer more movement when riding indoors, so trainers like the new Neo 3M are great for that kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6Gs0bCEmrmfcto.htmlsi=0vmTH3MkzatXybln

@scottintexas

6 ай бұрын

Do you think something like the motion plates would work on this bike (that is, one designed for this bike)?

@DesFit

6 ай бұрын

Unsure. It would have to be something specifically designed to support the bike’s weight.

It's not clear that this is really a good value at all when you look at the price compared to say the Stages which is onsale now. Plus the issues seen - GPLama mentions. Yes, it's an incremental improvement and good to see progress there. But I'd be hard pressed to buy something like this.

Did you like the Garmin neo plus better than the Wahoo shift?

hi, is it easily adaptable for a 2 meters tall guy?

When you hit 34km/h, I almost felt the burn. 😉

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

Ludicrous speed! 😄

Hey Des, are you aware of any apps that you can snap a pic of your road bike's set up for transfer to the Neo Smart Bike?

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I don't there is

Hi DesFit. Did you test this bike using an iPad? In the video it shows you are using a tablet but I could not identify. I'm asking because I got this bike and I'm having issues riding zwift workouts using an iPad or Apple TV.

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

I was using an iPad Pro. Ensure that the bike isn't paired via bluetooth to another device like your phone. A simple toggle of bluetooth off on your phone would do the trick if that's the culprit. Hope that works for you.

@humbertoleandro896

Жыл бұрын

@@DesFit Thanks. The bike is definitively connected to the iPad, the issue I'm having during workouts is the bike is the power demand not changing from high to low power during a sequence of overs and under for example, I have to turn ERG off to get out of the high power output interval and turn it on again. Have you experienced a similar issue?

Do you know whether the new handelbar and gear change/brakes can be purchased separately and added to the older Smart Bike?

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

No current plans at this point according to Garmin.

Does anyone know if it works with the Peloton app?

How does this compare to the Stages SB20? Which do you prefer?

@Robin_S78

Ай бұрын

SB20 hands down. More quiet, more robust and a durable drivetrain. I owned 2 Neo bikes, but was fed up with the repairs. My SB20 is now almost 3 years old and does the job perfeclty.

price?

Can you please add chapters to your videos?

what differences does it have neo bike?

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

Biggest differences are new shifters/brake levers, adjustment handles, and cranks.

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@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

🙌

My elite xdr is $500 and does a great job measuring the power, same as my favero pedals. I just wonder why a $4000 bike can't do something that $500 gears can do so well 🤔

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

The price comparison may be a little skewed because we are talking about an entire bike vs an individual component or a trainer. Not saying there isn’t some work to be done with ERG mode but getting one component correct vs the complexity of an entire bike can be different.

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A very positive review , when compared with Mr. Lama review that sounds extremely negative and factious towards stage and Wahoo

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

While our final takes are different, there are also some things in common such as the ERG mode experience which needs improvement. It's good to watch plenty of reviews to get different takes and Shane puts out good content.

dedicated trainer bike is cheaper...better..

As a neo owner I found nothing really interesting enough to upgrade.

No quieter than the Kickr bike. Road feel is a gimmick. Price not justified at all.

All that talking and no mention of prices 😒 😕

Maybe you could talk a little slower. You are not CNN :-)

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

The funny part is, this was actually slower than usual 😬 I try to slow down with every video but it somehow speeds up as the video progresses. Sorry about that but I appreciate you tuning in!

@tellef70

Жыл бұрын

You can reduce the speed on the video to 0.75 if you wish

Thanks for the great review. And I really like that chair also.

@DesFit

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!