i go offshore weekly, perfect fixture on my boat.

Thank you, super-helpful! Garmin sure-as-hell makes things complex, and that doesn’t seem to be changing much.

I love my Messenger. Been using it for my section hikes on the CT. It has everything I need.

@Zerdiox

5 күн бұрын

Can you extract the hike you did from the Messenger? I'm really only interested in logging my hike and getting the SOS possibility.

I’m considering getting two for me and the wife. In light of the recent AT&T outage I realized that staying in contact is vital! This unit can at least keep the lines of communication and help open if the cell towers ever get attacked.

Great content as always. Thank you Hiking Guy!

wow, very helpful. 👍

Amazing performance, amazing piece from Garmin. After 6 months, no regrets, must be honest never used the "SOS" however it's there. I am using quite regularly the "preset" messages, just to check-in. Always with me when I get out for running. Very stable, very smart device, infinte battery. Great compatibility with Fenix 7. Still need to find a nice case.

Another fantastic review and video. Super helpful for a very confusing space and product line.

Great video! Thx

Great review - it helped me understand the technical details of the device. I carry the messenger vertically in a pocket on my backpack strap, and it works well, with long battery life. I used it on Kilimanjaro recently and set up the online tracking for family, and got very fast response for messaging and weather (I used my Garmin Epix for navigation).

Switched from the Mini 1 to the Messenger. As a LD-hiker most of the time I don't need to do a lot of navigation and the battery life sold it for me. Thanks for the tipp with the tactical cigarette pack.

I will be riding trails on dirtbikes where cell service is nonexistent so this will be perfect if there is an accident and need help or need to let may family know where i am at. Thank you!

Still love my Zoleo. I think it’s the best deal out there with great functionality!

Great review. One question: does the Messenger support inReach Remote with a GPSMAP 67 (non inReach version)? And if it does, what inReach functions will work via inReach remote?

Can you please do a review of the tread XL ? I am planning on taking a trip to Alaska next year with my family and camping in off grid areas and there is not much information on it. Thank you.

I just bought the messenger, I already have a Garmin Fenix 6 which will connect directly. Though I have a live track it still does not allow me to do Satellite communication and update messages. So that's worth noting for anyone who has a Garmin Watch that it does allow you to use those features directly from your watch like SOS.

I had no problems using the app on my android phone

The Messenger app sounds complex but I like it. It means only people who you want to message you can and it stops using up message limits in lower tier subscriptions... It operates basically the same as the zoleo just requires others to get the app. Otherwise you'd have to hand out a second set of details which (could) be confusing too.

I got SPAM messages when I had the Zoleo so not necessarily a fan of the unique phone number feature ;) I traded it in for the Messenger but I wonder if the Mini 2 would be the better choice. I navigate with paper and the phone but having it on the device might be nice. As I learned recently relying on the phone can be an issue. Also the Messenger screen is small for my aging eyes. I do carry reading glasses in my pack though! The reason I first traded in the Zoleo though was because me and my bro couldn't reliably communicate with each other (he has the Mini). In fact he received zero messages from me on the mountain. That's why I got the Messenger. I realized later that being able to text directly from the device is very important as well. Thanks for the review!

@outsidewithmike

5 ай бұрын

Just a follow up - the text isn't easier to read on the Mini 2 like I tought it would be. The longer battery life in the messenger serves my needs better for backpacking so I will stick with that. I don't care about the navigation features.

Thank you for such a detailed description of Garmin messaging mess. The entire review sounds like what Garmin is not 😅. I will keep my Zoleo, thank you very much

@outsidewithmike

6 ай бұрын

Me and my bro rescued some people who had a Zoleo but their phone was dead so they couldn't message search and rescue. Our Garmin literally saved their lives while their Zoleo blinked virtually uselessly on a rock. You need a device you can msg from directly. Previous Zoleo owner here.

A very important feature if you ride offroad motorbike is the 'Incident Detection' that Garmin has made the Epix capable of, but it seems they did not connect their dots yet.. say you have a Epix and a InReach device, if the Epix on your wirst detects a fall and there's no cellular connection, will it say to Messenger or Mini 2 "hey the guy has fallen, better ask for help via Satellite" ?

Super helpful and a great recap. Based on your previous advice and this new video I think we will upgrade from our mini ones to a mini 2 and 67i, as always thanks and stay safe

@bilaltahir9978

7 ай бұрын

Why would you upgrade to the mini 2 and not the messenger?

Agree a lot with the conclusion - between iPhone 14 (or later), Fenix and Mini 2, three navigation devices, two of which have satelite capability. It feels like living in the future!

@sergioc404

7 ай бұрын

I’m actually confused by this. I have a Garmin watch an iPhone 15 and I’m considering getting a satellite messenger device. Based on the advantages mentioned in the video for the Messenger, I would’ve imagined this would’ve replaced the Mini 2. Unless the goal is to have 3 navigation devices rather than 2.

@IustinPop

7 ай бұрын

@@sergioc404 I think the point is that he values more a device with navigation, rather than increased transmit power. IDK.

Unless you hike R2R in the Gran Canyon. Day 1 I was down to 60 percent. Day 2 I took of tracking yet by nightfall I was down to 37 percent. Thank goodness i brought a small charger as I charged it up to 80 percent then turned it off. Day 3 kept it off unless I sent a check in message to my family tho I found if I was close to the canyon wall no message could be sent at all which happened several times during my 3 days. I'm not mad as I was able to communicate to my family that I was fine, but I was highly shocked and disappointed with the battery life. I just returned so I haven't emailed Garmin yet to inquire, at the moment I'm assuming the Messenger was constantly trying to establish contact with a satellite (even when I turned tracking off) but couldn't so the battery drained super fast. Before I left I had it turned on at home for a week without much battery drain. I do want to use it again in a different area but I will be sure to keep it off at night and have a backup charger for it. This is just my one time experience but I thought I'd share it

@Hikingguy

7 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that - not sure what was going on but I don't think it's typical. The only time I've had it drain down very quickly was when it was inside overnight and I didn't shut it off. I assumed the "seamless messaging" functionality would know that I'm in cell / wifi range and stop checking the satellites. But it doesn't, the device still checks the sats every hour.

Hi - thanks for the review - quite good. Can I use the Messenger as a BlueTooth GPS without the Plans?

@Hikingguy

7 ай бұрын

You can just get the lat/lon but otherwise no functions I think

@74p

13 күн бұрын

@@Hikingguy , this IS a bit of a bummer, and makes me in doubt whether to get the Mini 2 or Messenger as a replacement for my older Delorme inReach Explorer which ... is getting worse and worse at both messaging and even getting a GPS fix.

@Hikingguy

13 күн бұрын

@@74p I like the Mini 2 since it has the navigation capabilities, which I use as a backup for my other nav - for the best all in one package, the GPSMAP 67i is great

I'm currently using a Zoleo and debating switching devices again. Problem with the Zoleo is the GPS receiver is mediocre at best. During two hour wooded trail walks I'll send a CheckIn to my wife only to find it didn't send my location. Normally it takes between 2-6 attempts to successfully send my location. Occasionally failing completely. My phone has no difficulty following my walks.

@Hikingguy

5 ай бұрын

This should work a bit better

Garmin’s echo system sure is a mess. Thanks for the video, always great stuff.

@Swimdeep

7 ай бұрын

What is Garmin’s “echo system?”

@Jonathan906

7 ай бұрын

@@Swimdeep Probably meant "ecosystem". I agree. It's confusing.

@Jonathan906

7 ай бұрын

It sure seems that way. Apparently the Messenger is not for navigation. But isn't navigation precisely the reason I would buy a GPS device to begin with?

@Swimdeep

7 ай бұрын

@@Jonathan906 It’s a satt system so the point for me is being able to contact someone-anyone, in an emergency when cell service isn’t available and you can’t get yourself out of whatever you’re in. For Nav, I always bring a paper map and a compass as back-up.

@Jonathan906

7 ай бұрын

@@Swimdeep This is the first review I've seen that says clearly that the Messenger device cannot be paired with the Garmin Explore app. That is a significant detail that Garmin should make clear on their website. Until watching this video, I had expected that I would be able to buy the device, pair it with my phone, and monitor my location using Garmin's app on the phone. If that's not easily possible, if the device really is only for messaging, then that makes my purchasing decision much easier and I should buy one of Garmin's other devices instead, like the Mini or the 67i. Because for me, if I buy a GPS device, of course I want to use it for navigation.

This is the only video Ive found rhat discusses sma vs. Messenger app vs. Zoleo. Ive been having a heck of a time deciding. Leaning towards messenger, but on the messenger and/or mini2 with messenger app, can you send to anyone in your contelacts, or do you have to "add" them to a list first? I know this used 2b a benefit of zoleo, i know messenger was supposed to compete with that, and didnt know if it changed for Mini2 when they added mess-app support. Do they all function the same for contacts that were not pre-added? Thanks!

Nice voice! You should make sth out of it - like radio or sth.!

@74p

13 күн бұрын

Maybe a ... KZread channel?

On the fence between the inreach mini 2 on the messenger for motorcycle travel. Do both basically provide you with the same user options?

@Hikingguy

6 ай бұрын

If you're just using it on the bike, the Messenger is prob the move since you don't need nav

@marcrobyn4844

6 ай бұрын

@@Hikingguy got it last night

Just discovered your website Cris 😁Wow, super info. I'd like recommendation for my situation and will describe here. late 60s, in great shape, day hiker only. Looking to upgrade my equipment for mapping, satellite, SOS etc. Have Apple 7+ phone, will get 15+ in a year. Use AllTrails but don't like how it sometimes simply stops recording in the app. I've seen your vids on Garmin Epix, Apple Ultra, and watched some comments on InReach2...If I want reliable navigation, backtracking, satellite for no-cell zones, and SOS system, and maybe(?) want to send a message occasionally - and have only the iPhone and AllTrails now - what would you recommend for me? (and yes I have plenty of small battery backups). THANK YOU!

@Hikingguy

4 ай бұрын

If the phone setup works for you, I'd probably go with an iPhone 15 + Gaia GPS + Motorola Defy. Otherwise if you want something for all conditions, the GPSMAP 67i does the trick.

@davidplotkin5173

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for the quick reply. Another early bird like I am! In your recommended set up, what would be my back up for navigation in case my phone did die for some reason? I know you recommend a digital as well as a paper back up. And I’m just not sure I can shell out the money for the 67 I. Thank you again.

@Hikingguy

4 ай бұрын

@@davidplotkin5173 sorry just assumed you'd have paper - so final answer iPhone 15 + Gaia GPS + Motorola Defy + paper backup

@davidplotkin5173

4 ай бұрын

Thanks again! Maybe I'll see you out there sometime; I'm in Ventura County. @@Hikingguy

@davidplotkin5173

3 ай бұрын

@@HikingguyI did buy a defy and was able to get Amazon to return it because bullet went under. I think I will buy a messenger now since I do not need navigation on the device. What is the best way to attach the messenger to my backpack so it does not swing around like it might on a carabiner when I walk?

Does the inreach mini 2 work with the messenger app?

@BobbyWParkerJr

7 ай бұрын

Yes it does

Question, if you are in cell service why would you use this and get charged for text messages? I'm thinking you would disable the Bluetooth to use your data.

@Hikingguy

6 ай бұрын

If you text through the app It automatically sends via cell or wifi if available.

Do the family members have to have the app in order for us to message them?

@DeneyT16

6 ай бұрын

No, they do not. Having the app may make it more "seamless" for communicating with family members, but they can receive from and send back to, using the normal sms texting pathway as well.

If you have no cellular connection and you have not bought subscription for Inreach, can you buy a subscription and activate it using inreach?

@Hikingguy

6 ай бұрын

you need a data (wifi or cell) to activate

Does it send you location? On the website it says it can plot your progress and put a breadcrumb trail that can be uploaded in real-time to MapShare page with an active inReach subscription.

@Hikingguy

3 ай бұрын

You can include your location with a message

@tommyslavic898

3 ай бұрын

@@Hikingguy Its a shame subscription fees are so expensive. I'm a weekend warrior who might go bush 5-10 nights a year. It seems exorbitant to pay the fees even if it gives the family peace of mind. I wonder how much potential subscribers Garmin etc are missing out on because of that reason.

Can this device connect directly to Epix Gen2 watch for exchanging messages without using cell phone?

@Hikingguy

7 ай бұрын

Yes you can use a watch as a remote but it's all on sat - no seamless

@ermin3963

7 ай бұрын

@@Hikingguy thank you!

would this still work with a phone with no sim card? like let’s say if you had a phone with a text now number or something

@Hikingguy

3 ай бұрын

If the phone was connected to Wifi it would work

Does the guy receiving the satelite message needs phone reception in order to answer the message?

@Hikingguy

4 ай бұрын

If you send it to a phone yes, if you send it to another inReach, no

no way they really called a cigarette holder, 'tactical'

Your videos will play on a phone but not on the TV for some reason. All my other subscription videos play perfectly on the TV, but yours just will not play. Just thought you might want to know. Cheers!

How portable is the messenger vs mini 2?

@Hikingguy

7 ай бұрын

If you get a case or store it like I talk about in the video, about the same

@Jdub970

4 ай бұрын

@@Hikingguydoes storing it in a case worry you that it could come out snagging on brush. Vs it being clipped in with a clip/cord.

@Hikingguy

4 ай бұрын

@@Jdub970 I guess it could happen but I haven't had it happen - if you're doing some serious bushwacking I'd prob put it in the brain of my pack.

@Jdub970

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! I’m trying to decide between this and the zoleo messenger for backcountry day hikes for fishing. Which would you recommend?

@no.9516

3 ай бұрын

slap velcro to it. without it, its is basically a block compared to the inreaches carbiner and loop.

is this garmin's version of a BIVI STICK..?

@no.9516

3 ай бұрын

The bivy stick was bivys answer to garmin. So its more like the other way around.

You need to start out these videos, explaining or defining just what it is.. you talked about the antenna.. but not what it's function is.. Not many even have a clue.. please start out with the basics, define what it is because it is not a common item.. If you said it was a GPS locator, we would understand all the information that followed, but you said, "it does not have a GPS". So what the heck is it... ? i feel like i was tricked into an infomercial and still have no idea what it is.

@Hikingguy

7 ай бұрын

This video is a review, not a how-to. I think it might make sense to understand the basics of what a satellite communicator is before watching a review of one. There are lots of videos (like this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZWRrzY-tgtOxfrQ.html ) that may be helpful. I also have other videos on my channel explaining all the features of inReach, they may be helpful as well.

@du3223

3 ай бұрын

You were tricked by your own lack of effort in finding a video suitable to your level of knowledge (or lack thereof).

@svenschrecker

Ай бұрын

I came to get deeper insight into the Messenger. I don’t need to be spoon-fed a bunch of background I already know, and I don’t need to be entertained. I want a concise account specifically on how the InReach Messenger works. Ignore @rdkuless and the self-proclaimed clueless crowd who need an infomercial to substitute for their inability to comprehend the fundamentals of the content being presented.