Garmin Epix Gen 2 - Long Term Real Life Battery Experience... Does it hold up?!

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00:00 - Intro / Overview
01:56 - My Typical Use Case
02:30 - Gesture Mode vs Always On
03:18 - GPS Activity Battery Specs
03:41 - Real Life Battery Experience
07:04 - Downloadable Battery Widget

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  • @Max.527
    @Max.5272 жыл бұрын

    Just sold my kidney! Can't wait to buy the epix!

  • @dominicfernandez2695

    @dominicfernandez2695

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s not worth it. Just get a fenix 7. I tried them all. 7x, 7s and Epix. 7x too big for all day wear that it actually hurts my wrist. 7s is good in terms of HR accuracy and being light but it screams attention. The way it feels on my wrist. With Epix, although the screen is gorgeous, I can’t see it lasting 2 years with gesture mode. Will have screen burn in and battery life. Went back to Polar Vantage V2. Simple running watch. No gimmick and better sleep tracking with recovery tool.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Might be able to just sell one? 😉

  • @rafael6693

    @rafael6693

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dominicfernandez2695 it won’t have screen burn it this new epix 2 have a different amoled to prevent those situations

  • @imaXkillXya

    @imaXkillXya

    2 жыл бұрын

    You could have save those Trump Tokens and Biden Bucks lol

  • @kjhman

    @kjhman

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh cmon. That’s not a bad price for a high quality watch. Plus you can get it for 20% off easily anyway.

  • @tested211
    @tested2112 жыл бұрын

    I've had an Epix 2 for about a month and my experience (with similar levels of activity) is pretty much the same. Always on: around 6-7 days, Gesture / sleep mode: around 13-15 days. That's really very, very good for an AMOLED screen. I find gesture mode fine, as said here, it comes on almost instantly. It's also brilliant for night rides / runs where a tilt of the wrist will let me see pace or my route in the dark without having to press a button. Bigger battery drains are GPS with map onscreen and streaming music, but you'd expect that. The screen really is great. I need to wear reading glasses for most text these days but the Epix screen is so bright and sharp that I can read all of the data fields (and even some street names on the navigation map) without them, which is fantastic.

  • @caferacer99

    @caferacer99

    Жыл бұрын

    Your comment about being able to read the screen without reading glasses was extremely valuable to me. It's the thing that has kept me from getting one of these watches... Thanks!

  • @tested211

    @tested211

    Жыл бұрын

    @@caferacer99 Glad it helped, thank you!

  • @TheZanshen

    @TheZanshen

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes mate I purchased the fenix 7x sapphire solar and returned straight away due to the display. Got the epix and no problem reading with out reading glasses.

  • @maranr

    @maranr

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheZanshen Yes, I am finding that now as well after a year with my 7S. Annoying when doing exercises without glasses and wanting to go to a new set or check something, but alas, I can't return it. Still very happy since it is better for my smaller wrist and for sleeping with it.

  • @fitgearhunter
    @fitgearhunter2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome man. I’ve been getting over 6 days w always on - Low brightness - wrist gesture on - and pulse ox off during sleep or otherwise. Excellent work on Garmin’s behalf. Great video.

  • @craigthorp4913
    @craigthorp4913 Жыл бұрын

    I've had my Epix for 12 months now and cannot rate it highly enough. Good battery life and the screen is divine. I either mountain bike or long walk on alternate days and find this watch to be superb.

  • @eduardoespiritosanto8333
    @eduardoespiritosanto8333 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. This is the primer question for a Epix x Fenix buying decision.

  • @2seeatnite42
    @2seeatnite422 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate your insight and thoughts. Great video!

  • @evillamaria
    @evillamaria2 жыл бұрын

    Great video, Dave. Got my Epix

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good point about the notifications and battery drain! thanks for sharing!

  • @teroreinikainen3020

    @teroreinikainen3020

    2 жыл бұрын

    Im pretty sure you can do this on garmin connect that which apps sends the notifications on your watch

  • @evillamaria

    @evillamaria

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@teroreinikainen3020 Yeah figured it out! (Buried a bit like everything else ;) Still loving it...

  • @EmilWisekal

    @EmilWisekal

    Жыл бұрын

    Edward, if you have an iPhone, it allows users to customize "per app" push notifications. This would only help if that customization matches your needs for both the Phone and Garmin EPIX 2. I compromised and made them agree :-)

  • @eraser465
    @eraser465 Жыл бұрын

    I'm used to charging my Samsung every day so this is more than acceptable for me. Glad I bought this over the Fenix 7

  • @theredskin100
    @theredskin1002 жыл бұрын

    I love this watch. A fan from Belgium, great and useful videos.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoy it!

  • @UTubeSL
    @UTubeSL Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Very helpful and good detail. Thanks!

  • @alakeli
    @alakeli Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. This information is just what is was seeking.

  • @scottash393
    @scottash39311 ай бұрын

    Good stuff. Thanks for all the details. This Epex gen 2 makes all my others hand me downs....lol. Kids are happy

  • @aerobrain2001
    @aerobrain2001 Жыл бұрын

    That’s definitely acceptable! I’d want as a minimum two things: 1) Able to record an essentially all day activity (eg an ultra marathon or Ironman etc) and 2) last at least a week in general 24/7 wear plus normal training. So sounds like that’s pretty comfortable for this watch with the gesture mode

  • @abosworth
    @abosworth2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tip on the battery widget. I downloaded it and am looking forward to checking it out once it starts collecting some data. As for battery life, I use mine in AOD mode and I have consistently gotten 6 days out of it with no problems. I run about 30 miles a week so I'm GPS tracking 5 days a week. I'm super impressed with battery life on such a beautiful screen with AOD.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's solid! Good to hear you're getting 6 days with that much activity!

  • @thepatternforms859

    @thepatternforms859

    2 жыл бұрын

    Turn your brightness down to the lowest setting and use gesture mode. You will easily double or triple battery life

  • @abosworth

    @abosworth

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thepatternforms859 6 days is fine for me. I like having AOD on. For me, I think you should be able to see the time on a watch at all times without having to touch or use a gesture.

  • @thepatternforms859

    @thepatternforms859

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@abosworth in order to look at the time you must rotate your wrist there is always a gesture. 99.9% of the time

  • @abosworth

    @abosworth

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thepatternforms859 I know exactly how it works. I'm no stranger to smart/fitness watches. I've had several. I always prefer to have AOD so I don't have to worry about the gesture and since this watch easily gets 6 days for me with AOD, I'm totally fine with it. I don't need it to last 16 days, I'm perfectly happy with 6 days on this beautiful OLED screen.

  • @barmun
    @barmun2 жыл бұрын

    Great recommendation on the battery widget. I think a video on cool garmin widgets and apps would be very useful!

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the idea!

  • @Goffas_and_gumpys
    @Goffas_and_gumpys2 жыл бұрын

    Had mine since public release, updated to 8.15 beta yesterday and have NEVER regretted this purchase. Easily get nearly 6 days on a charge with everything on. The only thing I don't like is the very hard to remove, if at all, springbars. Don't know why Garmin did that but never mind. Love the OLED display and coming from a lot of previous Fenix watches there is no change to button muscle memory. I still haven't turned touch screen on yet due to prior button ease of use.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Thanks for sharing!

  • @djzrobzombie2813

    @djzrobzombie2813

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@ChaseTheSummit😂

  • @juhaloukaja5078
    @juhaloukaja5078 Жыл бұрын

    I'm waiting for my Epix, due tomorrow. I was (and still am) very torn between Fenix 7X and Epix 2 but ultimately, I went with Epix 2 because the battery life argument, in my use case, will be a non-issue. The same reason that I didn't go for the Apple Watch 7, that thing has to be charged every freaking day. Can't handle that, but even once a week with E2 will be much better. The higher resolution also played a factor, although, I wish they'd have it in the 51mm size...

  • @renevh2832
    @renevh28322 жыл бұрын

    A tip for active people looking to stretch battery life: charge it while you take a shower! The running channel also gave this advice a while ago. I wear my epix 24/7 except for my shower time. run almost every day, most of times with music, earbuds, stryd and hrm tri connected. On other days I plat squash. Every morning and after every exercise I take a shower and charge. Keeps you clean and the battery sufficiently loaded for a long time

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    For sure, I also tend to charge mine when I'm driving to/from work. The 15 minutes in the car is enough to get a couple of extra days!

  • @ManuelAMartinez

    @ManuelAMartinez

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is what I do and my battery life last forever. 🤗

  • @Ted038

    @Ted038

    2 жыл бұрын

    The connection on watch will wear a bit with each use, so charging it daily will theoretically make the connection wear more / faster.... (but then again, if the connection now fails within guarantee instead of out of warrantee.... )

  • @christophercarpunky6322

    @christophercarpunky6322

    Жыл бұрын

    Does it hurt the battery by recharging it so frequently? Your not supposed to let it drain down? Not sure if all the Garmin people know everything and are consistent but I had asked them a few weeks ago regarding the Fenix 7 and they told me I should let it drain lower until recharging it again to save on cycles.

  • @renevh2832

    @renevh2832

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christophercarpunky6322 I followed the same approach with my previous fenix 5 plus and have not noticed a difference in battery and no connector issues either after 3 years of 24/7 usage

  • @outdoorcinema7
    @outdoorcinema7 Жыл бұрын

    Great information! I ordered Epix 2 and hope it will be good choice for me. I don't need heart rate sensor and similar sensors so battery life must to be little bit better...

  • @CuongLe-cm9rv
    @CuongLe-cm9rv2 жыл бұрын

    Jumped from suunto 7 to epix gen 2 after seeing this. Good review, tk Des

  • @gingleb3792
    @gingleb37922 жыл бұрын

    I was lucky enough to be given a fenix 7 whilst waiting for my epix. I have to say I was a little hesitant with battery life predictions moving over to the epix. In the few days I've had it I literally can't understand what voodoo magic is making it last so long. Out of the box it had 85% I use it in gesture mode and I've been on two runs and regularly do circuits classes. 4 days in it is still showing 10 days left. And that screen is absolutely gorgeous. I would highly recommend this watch

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @paulthehammer7633
    @paulthehammer76332 жыл бұрын

    I’m getting about 8-9 days from my Epix, gesture mode is just fine and super responsive, also don’t have it at full brightness unless during activity and use the sleep mode, going on my daily run of around an 45/50 mins and using music and GPS im going through about 6% of battery, the old 745 would go through about 15% during that run and I was charging that every 3 to 4 days!!! I also use other activity features regularly, mainly gym classes or Yoga but no music or GPS with those so battery drains a lot less. Overall though more than happy with the battery life.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing! It seems most are satisfied with the battery life!

  • @ehosey2
    @ehosey22 жыл бұрын

    Excellent videos regarding real usage. I am so excited to get my Epix Gen 2. Taking forever to arrive unfortunately. Ordered a black titanium sapphire edition on March 23 and Garmin emailed me an estimated Mid-May ship date. I did get mine for $800.00 though so it'll be worth it.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to hear that! They're hard to get for sure!

  • @TheBl4zon

    @TheBl4zon

    2 жыл бұрын

    March 12 and still waiting 🙄

  • @slraja83

    @slraja83

    2 жыл бұрын

    @ehosey2 - great price.. may i know which site you ordered ?

  • @ehosey2

    @ehosey2

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@slraja83 I bought it direct from Garmin. I had a 20% off code. KZread took down my previous post. Apparently I wasn't allowed to say what App I used that gave me the code. It took a month to receive. Got it on April 25.

  • @aaaxxx520
    @aaaxxx5202 жыл бұрын

    i had my epix gen2 with always on during activity for 5 hours trail running with all function ON, battery drops 20% from 85 to 65. Similar result as yours.

  • @chrisdavies6175
    @chrisdavies61752 жыл бұрын

    Hi Dave. Another really useful video! What really interests me is how the battery performs during a 100 mile technical (say 30 hour) ultra on those settings. My guess is that it hasn’t quite got enough to be confident your going to get to the end. So OK for 24 hour ‘easy’ ones but not for the knarly ones (without a cable). I guess though that is classic 7 territory - but it is a shame to sacrifice the lovely screen….

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think you could pull off a 30 hour ultra but yeah... it might be close. These are default settings results if you tweaked the brightness down to the lowest setting and disabled the Heart Rate sensor it would last a 100 miler easy.

  • @blueraiden6617
    @blueraiden66172 жыл бұрын

    Sold out everywhere! I snuck an order in on amazon at msrp 3 weeks out.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hard to get for sure. Check out PlayBetter (links in description). They're on pre-order but they have a big shipment coming in within a few days.

  • @TONYREYES53

    @TONYREYES53

    2 жыл бұрын

    Buy a Garmin D2 Mach 1 better looking watch and all the same features got mine in 3 days

  • @tamonyanagimoto9218
    @tamonyanagimoto92182 жыл бұрын

    love your videos! Thanks for this!!!

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @carminered3229
    @carminered32292 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the amazing review. Is the rise to wake feature faster on the forerunner 965 vs epix 2nd gen? Just returned the forerunner due to wanting a more durable body and am missing the screen size of the forerunner and I wonder if the rise to wake was quicker on the forerunner. What is your experience? Thank you!

  • @PetoGee
    @PetoGee2 жыл бұрын

    Yes 15 days with gesture mode.... But gesture mode is something I can't accept. I like my watch always on and not glowing like my phone. That's why I bought Fenix 7 Sapphire Solar instead.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's the right choice if you value battery life AND don't like gesture mode. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Aphony66
    @Aphony66 Жыл бұрын

    So my choice between the Fenix 7 and Epix is related to 3 things: battery life, watch size (51mm only), and no solar charge ability. The main thing for me was the fact that the 47mm Fenix 7 fitted my wrist size. Same price for both.

  • @agusbal9367
    @agusbal93672 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the witched!

  • @igoranisimov6549
    @igoranisimov65492 жыл бұрын

    I minimized the time that the screen is on in settings. I made it gesture mode during activities, and normally the screen is off. Also I set the sleap mode.. That resulted in 14 days between charges. I exercise 4 days per week about 1 hour or more.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's great! Thanks for sharing.

  • @MrHenkfromHolland
    @MrHenkfromHolland2 жыл бұрын

    De battery life depends if you use GPS or Glosnass outside activities Or the interval from the GPS monitoring on my Suunto sports watch. Or the interval from the hart rate monitor You have to play with it

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lots of variables yes. In this video I just wanted to try to explain what my use has been like with default settings.

  • @Foxtrot254
    @Foxtrot2542 жыл бұрын

    Keep them spicy videos coming

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    🔥

  • @benjaminmuradyan3185
    @benjaminmuradyan31852 жыл бұрын

    Next one: how well does the solar work on the fenix 7 vs Fenix 6…to see if the solar has improved as much as garmin says it has :)

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'll see what I can do!

  • @justinhongphotography
    @justinhongphotography5 ай бұрын

    I was wondering how the battery life would last with navigation on? Would you say it could last around 30 hours if I occasionally check maps for navigation and swipe away from that data screen to avoid constant refreshing? Also with other battery saving tactics like dimming the screen, gesture to wake, etc…? Thank you for any feedback! No one is really talking about battery life while navigating

  • @amshaq007CR7
    @amshaq007CR72 жыл бұрын

    Thanks chase

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    You bet!

  • @curtisgoodwin8962
    @curtisgoodwin89622 жыл бұрын

    Great video Dave. I bit the bullet 3 weeks ago on the non sapphire epix (sapphire not in Canada yet) and am getting the exact same battery life results as you describe. I’ve switched from being an AW user for 6 years because of battery life and wanting to be in one ecosystem as I have Garmin Edge bike computers. However I’m a klutz with this watch! I’m always banging it into things & remember a few years ago you did a video about switching to a Felix 6S - I have the same size wrist as you and my question is … what is your daily driver Garmin now? A Felix 7S perhaps? I’m thinking of switching to the F7S. Thanks

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    The size takes some getting used to for sure! Lately I've been wearing the Epix most days but also the Tactix 7. I swap them out often for the sake of this channel lol.

  • @StevenVacher
    @StevenVacher2 жыл бұрын

    Wow 😮 I have gesture and sleep modes on. I typically do a 1 hour walk with GPS each day. I'm only getting 4-5 days from a full charge. I am using the 'Data lover' watch face but this is the one I had on my Fenix6Pro with no battery issues. I don't use it for music on my walks. My 4-5 days sounds dreadful.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    4-5 days isn't bad if you're getting the most from the watch! Thanks for sharing.

  • @StevenVacher

    @StevenVacher

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit don’t get me wrong, I’m loving the watch but the battery 🪫 length is an issue especially when coming from a 6 Pro.

  • @jimmylavoie94
    @jimmylavoie942 жыл бұрын

    Have you heard about a epix smaller like a fenix 7s? I tried the garmin epix 2 and I really loved it but had the return it because the watch is really too big for my wrist.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nope, but I wouldn't be surprised if we see something like that down the road. Have you checked out the Venu 2? It's similar to the Epix display but in a smaller form factor. Less expensive, and missing a lot of the training tools but otherwise it's a great watch!

  • @TJFNixon
    @TJFNixon Жыл бұрын

    Very useful video. Thanks. How long did it talk to fully charge the watch?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    Жыл бұрын

    It takes around 90 minutes for a full charge.

  • @TJFNixon

    @TJFNixon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit ok. Thanks. I like the 15 min charge whilst in the shower every day idea! Unless there’s some shower metrics? 🧐

  • @taylordoingstuff
    @taylordoingstuff2 жыл бұрын

    I consistently get two weeks with gesture mode. I feel that is great, especially compared to my old Apple Watch.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's great!

  • @ronjeremy8
    @ronjeremy82 ай бұрын

    During your runs, did you also use bluetooth for music playback on your watch? At the beginning of the video you are wearing earpods during your run. I am asking this because music playback via bluetooth has a major impact on battery life. Thanks.

  • @RumbleBack-iz3tl

    @RumbleBack-iz3tl

    2 ай бұрын

    It has even more impact than on any Apple Watch. I only get 8h with running. Minimal GPS settings. You have to turn off oxygen measurements to. And the always on display. Man. The battery life is really NOT great

  • @rafalkonieczny
    @rafalkonieczny2 жыл бұрын

    Impressive, I get less with Fenix 7 (although I always go outdoors. And I actually cancelled Epic order and switched to Fenix. Would be great if you can plan screen burn-in test after 2 years (if you keep it that long).

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'll have it until whatever comes next. Burn in is something I'm keeping my eye on but I haven't heard any complaints yet.

  • @rafael6693

    @rafael6693

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have read that this new amoled is not the same as older oled’s of garmin whatches so it won’t burn, they changed the technology of the first oleds that used to burn. I think it was on reddit i saw that. A guy mailed garmin and they mailed him back with this info

  • @petercollins8649
    @petercollins86492 ай бұрын

    Does the watches alarm work when not connected to the phone like a standalone watch

  • @MuratBALIAN
    @MuratBALIAN2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, thank you for the videos, have you had any amoled burn-in problem with the screen or have you heard about that?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not so far. I've been wearing it daily and it still looks great.

  • @stevepodraza6363
    @stevepodraza6363 Жыл бұрын

    Now to chose this or the enduro 2! I care more about the size. I have the 6x pro and had the 5x so I’m use to the 51mm size. Not sure if I could go to 47mm. Tough choice

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep! Unfortunately there's no 51mm version of the Epix... that would be cool though!

  • @user-pc1zu4uz2c
    @user-pc1zu4uz2c Жыл бұрын

    Hey, thank you for the videos. I am struggling about buying the Epix2 or the Fenix7X. battery is not the issue, but the screen size 1.3" vs 1.4". from your experience, does it matter? specially when using the maps to view a trail run route during the run.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    Жыл бұрын

    The larger screen on the Fenix 7X is nice but the OLED display on the Epix has higher resolution so it can fit more on a smaller display.

  • @eriktred
    @eriktred2 жыл бұрын

    The estimated battery life always shrinks rapidly after multiple long runs. The psychology of seeing “5 days” then “2 days” after a 2-3 hour long run bums me out. However, the screen is phenomenal. Thus I continue to enjoy this beast.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    I tend to ignore the estimated time remaining and look at the percentage lol.

  • @eriktred

    @eriktred

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit % is a lot less psychologically impacting than seeing “5 days” drop to “2 days”

  • @dimav83
    @dimav83 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! How does the coating on bezel (DLC) holds, are scratches too visible?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    Жыл бұрын

    It's more scratch resistant than the standard finish but it's not scratch proof.

  • @deeearnshaw9551
    @deeearnshaw95512 жыл бұрын

    Great summary- Thank you. How would you say that the Epix 2 compares with a 47mm Fenix (I have 6 pro and also use gesture to better read indoor)

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    They're the exact same watch it really just boils down to battery life and what type of display you prefer.

  • @deeearnshaw9551

    @deeearnshaw9551

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry- I meant battery life specifically- Epix vs Fenix, real world comparison- in your experience

  • @christophercarpunky6322

    @christophercarpunky6322

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit It also depends if you have the standard Fenix 7 for $699. The Epix 2 is also available in sapphire and has a titanium body as opposed to the standard Fenix 7 (besides the better screen). You have to get a $899 sapphire solar Fenix 7 to compare the Epix 2. Then the decision is for $100 more if you want a better screen on the Epix or longer battery life on the Fenix 7 sapphire with solar for $100 less. That is a hard decision.

  • @marcojm9
    @marcojm92 жыл бұрын

    With the Epix 2 I just got to 8 days with Gesture mode, 1.5 to 2 hrs of indoor and GPS activities per day. I did have to keep baby sitting it by reducing the screen brightness, and using GPS Only mode. Returned it and got the fenix 7X instead and getting 2 weeks of battery life without having to baby sit it, happy with the f7X choice.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @mrdad272
    @mrdad2722 жыл бұрын

    Come on guys ! 18K views and less than 1000 likes … Great work as usual !

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Much appreciated!

  • @LoftechUK
    @LoftechUK2 жыл бұрын

    Im still choosing. I have a Fenix 5X plus. Sapphire 51 mm and love it. I’m going to be torn to separate from such a device.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice! That's still a great watch.

  • @renevh2832

    @renevh2832

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Andrew, I moved from a Fenix 5 plus sapphire black to the epix sapphire black. Huge step up in functionality and processor, not to mention the screen, 13 iso 12 inch and amoled. Will be similar for you although design wise it is smaller than your 5x

  • @bieganieigory
    @bieganieigory2 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a reference for a maximum battery time in GPS only mode, OHR on - a typical setting for a long ultra ? How long the battery would last in that case ?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    42 hours if you're using gesture mode. You can increase these a bit by turning down your backlight / timeout settings or disabling the OHR sensor.

  • @osmirod1
    @osmirod1 Жыл бұрын

    This is AMAZING!! -I always run with music on and use my Apple Watch series 4 for it but I want to switch to Garmin for the battery. How long does the battery last for WITH music playing + factory settings set to watch mode display and NOT always on?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    Жыл бұрын

    All Satellite Systems + Music: Up to 10 hours (9 hours always-on)

  • @osmirod1

    @osmirod1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit I found it on the Garmin website. Thank you

  • @HunterSol
    @HunterSol Жыл бұрын

    How was the glass/sapphire after your long term review? I've just got a Sapphire Epix, coming from a Vivoactive 4 and wondering if I need to bother getting a screen protector for it?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    Жыл бұрын

    With sapphire I wouldn't bother. I have some Sapphire Fenix 5's kicking around in a draw that still look new!

  • @HunterSol

    @HunterSol

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit Amazing, thank you! 😊

  • @Skystar777
    @Skystar777 Жыл бұрын

    My Fenix 3 HR lasted a month but took at least 4 hours to charge. So long I would charge it over night. The epix 2 takes 1 hour a week so I charge it when I awake while I shower and have breakfast. For me same charge time as my old watch.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    Жыл бұрын

    Your 3 HR lasted a month? That's a lot longer than mine lasted!

  • @markobebek1614
    @markobebek16142 жыл бұрын

    Chase, you mentioned music so I was wondering if you had any connectivity issue (breaking Bluetooth connection) between the Epix and ur head/earphones? Also, do u use iOS or Android when paired with your phone?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm primarily an IOS user. In terms of earbuds it seems like some work great and others have issues. As an example, I haven't really had issues with my Jaybird Vista 1 or 2's but I've read comments of people having drops with the same earbuds.

  • @tested211

    @tested211

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have an Epix 2. I got some Jabra Elite 75T and they took a long time to connect and cut out intermitentently when running outdoors (when my body is between the watch and right ear piece, which is the main receiver) that's quite a common problem apparently - can be solved by wearing the watch on your right wrist if that suits you. However, I just got some Bose quietcomfort ear buds and they work perfectly with the Epix - connection is MUCH faster and they don't cut out at all whilst running outdoors. They aren't the sports version but they're very comfortable and very secure. I can't imagine they'd ever fall out. Hope that helps. (I'm on ios but just use the watch paired to the earbuds for music)

  • @AbyArakkal

    @AbyArakkal

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tested211 i read in earlier comments that you get 6-7 days with always on. Did that include Bluetooth headset and chest hr or just the watch? Also if i may ask if you use multi GNSS or regular GPS? Thanks in advance

  • @tested211

    @tested211

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AbyArakkal Hi, 6-7 days with always on was with nothing else attached (no music, no chest strap). I did some (gps tracked) exercise every day (maybe 40 minutes avg) and probably messing about with the watch a fair bit which would have used a bit more power as it was new and I was playing with watch faces, maps etc. Streaming music to bluetooth ear buds definitely uses a lot of power but if you're just doing that when exercising I don't think you'd find it too bad. Maybe 4-5 days? Next time I do a solo run I'll stick some music on and try to check exactly how much power it uses. I have a chest strap from my old watch but haven't tried it with the Epix, since the wrist HR seems to work really well for me - not completely perfect but good enough for my needs (very happy about that!) For GPS it's on the default, which is the multi / everything setting I think. There are a lot of options for different ways of saving power, though. You could make 2 different run settings, 1 which used everything and 1 which used only GPS, turned the screen off etc. It's pretty well thought out on this front. My only concern at all with the watch / battery is how charge cycles affect lifespan. The battery is great now but in a few years, when the battery has done many charge cycles and needs replacing are Garmin going to change the battery for a reasonable fee? Or will they price the change so high that these watches go into landfill?

  • @AbyArakkal

    @AbyArakkal

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tested211 super thanks for the detailed reply!

  • @loserpro43210
    @loserpro432102 жыл бұрын

    Did you have bluetooth/phone connection on during the test? What about smartphone notifications?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, default settings as mentioned in the video which means bluetooth on and all smart notifications on.

  • @gearstuffs8007
    @gearstuffs80073 ай бұрын

    Hi! May I know can we concurrently syn or connect 2 watches together? For example one for instinct & one for epix gen 2 at the same time...

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, you can pair multiple watches to the same Garmin Connect account. After that they will work collaboratively depending which one you wear.

  • @gearstuffs8007

    @gearstuffs8007

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit Thanks buddy! Really helpful!

  • @gearstuffs8007

    @gearstuffs8007

    3 ай бұрын

    Can I have one more question thanks, if lets say I do cycling then I change sports to mountain biking, so how does this work? I mean recording both activities or recorded?

  • @peakproofuk
    @peakproofuk2 жыл бұрын

    Worth mentioning (pedant style), there isn't a "backlight" with an OLED - each pixel is self illuminated. Great video though, the Epix is my perfect 'Fenix'!

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah of course. I'm just stuck in the habit of saying "backlight" when it comes to watches lol.

  • @peakproofuk

    @peakproofuk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit I’m just being a pedantic muppet

  • @marekkozub8957
    @marekkozub89572 жыл бұрын

    That means, Garmin is honest with advertising its products.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    For the most part yes. But battery life on the Epix is can fluctuate SO much depending on how its set up.

  • @user-wj6fn9do9w
    @user-wj6fn9do9w3 ай бұрын

    Should I buy epix 2 or should I wait for the epix 3 ??

  • @fc-8843
    @fc-8843 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve only had mine for a few days but after 1 day use with always on turned off, sleep mode at night, wifi off, no workouts, it was already down to 70%. Still playing around to get the best battery life out of it but not sure how this will get close to 6 days without charging especially once I start to use it for my runs and strength workouts.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    Жыл бұрын

    You may need a few charge cycles to see the battery stats stabilize.

  • @stephenlaney_bjj
    @stephenlaney_bjj2 жыл бұрын

    as someone who is training for my 1st 50 mile ultra, would you choose the epix2 or fenix 7. i currently have the fenix 5 x plus.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Both should easily get you through a 50 miler. I guess the question is do you plan on ever shooting for 100 miles or longer? At that point you're starting to push the limits of the battery life on the Epix unless you disable heart rate or tweak the settings where as the Fenix 7 should easily make it to the finish line. On the other hand, for the 99% of the time you're not racing the Epix display is much nicer to look at. Other than that... They're basically the same watch.

  • @stephenlaney_bjj

    @stephenlaney_bjj

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit thanks for the quick reply. Yeah the screen has been the only drawback from my 5. Might wait for the next tactix version to see what they might offer. Besides running I also hunt in the backcountry so 7 still more viable I think in that area. None of my local stores have either to look at which sucks. I’m in no rush yet so waiting for market to catch up with supply.. thanks again

  • @user-ru1yg2ig5y
    @user-ru1yg2ig5y2 жыл бұрын

    I want an always OFF display... No gesture, no nothing until I press a button or double tap the screen....does it have any of that? I don't like it to bright on my hand at involuntary moves

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can do that with the Epix and it will save a ton of battery life as well.

  • @user-ru1yg2ig5y

    @user-ru1yg2ig5y

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit Nobody has ever mention that setting in a video so I couldn't know it exists... Not even you... Everybody prefer to use the gesture And it lets you activate the screen with a double tap?

  • @adyahONS
    @adyahONS2 жыл бұрын

    Hi there ! What about SPO2 Sensor...did you turn it ON During Sleep ?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    As mentioned the watch was set to default settings so SpO2 was disabled and only updated if I manually took a measurement.

  • @adyahONS

    @adyahONS

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit Thanks for the Clarification 🙂

  • @zacharysverdrup8393
    @zacharysverdrup83932 жыл бұрын

    i love the "im not that fast comment" when talking about running 8 miles in a hour.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    🏃

  • @wouter7777
    @wouter77772 жыл бұрын

    Great video, you think the Fenix 6 is still a good option?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    At the current price? YES it's a fantastic value.

  • @wouter7777

    @wouter7777

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit Thanks for answering me, appreciate it!

  • @rhiannaheneghan6815
    @rhiannaheneghan6815 Жыл бұрын

    I'm having an issue with my epix gen 2 and my training peaks account, it's recording my tss score extremely high, its saying my 2.5k hill warmup had a TSS of 200!? Anyone know how to fix this

  • @ChiocciMicaele
    @ChiocciMicaele2 жыл бұрын

    I sended my Epix back and got the 7 Solar Titan/Sapphire. I have an AW Series 7 if i want a real good display for lifestyle.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    What didn't you like about the Epix that made you move to the Fenix?

  • @ChiocciMicaele

    @ChiocciMicaele

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit The idea of having to manage the battery was decisive for me. I like to look at my watch from the corner of my eye during the day to know the time, so the screen should be constantly turned on. With the oximeter for the night and always-On i arrived at four days of battery. This is not the idea I have of a sports watch. As mentioned, I have an Apple Watch 7 Series if I want a really fluid screen for everyday life.

  • @kevinhicks9447

    @kevinhicks9447

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChiocciMicaele I use my epic in AOD... 4-5 days because I have heavy amount of notifications with running about 45-60 minutes a day. Charges in pretty quickly. What kind of usuage are you doing on your watch?

  • @christophercarpunky6322

    @christophercarpunky6322

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChiocciMicaele This is why I am on the fence. I am a manager who is in a lot of meetings all day. I like to be able to glanced down at my watch.

  • @ianmandel352
    @ianmandel3529 ай бұрын

    awesome vid

  • @MindBendingStudio
    @MindBendingStudio2 жыл бұрын

    Would you say it is worth upgrading a 945 non LTE to the 7xSS?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    It depends, the 945 has better battery life. The Fenix 7s has more features and a smaller form factor along with more accurate GPS and heart rate sensors. What do you value more?

  • @atmamont
    @atmamont2 жыл бұрын

    the very last thing I'm worried about in my epix2 is battery life. I did even delete this plugin as it doesn't support touch screen and swipes.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's certainly not a concern once you own one. But, I made this video because it seems like a lot of people are scared away by the battery specs!

  • @camexplora9742
    @camexplora97422 жыл бұрын

    Was pulse ox on? Also, does it need to be on to use sleep tracking?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Default settings so PulseOx was disabled.

  • @ibby81ae
    @ibby81ae2 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any regrets not getting the the fenix 7 or are you still happy with the epix.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    I personally have both the Epix and Fenix 7. I'd say you can't really go wrong either way. Both have their pro's and cons and they're basically the same watch at the end of the day. One gets a nicer display, one gets slightly better battery life in most situations. The choice is yours!

  • @ZotmundSzele
    @ZotmundSzele2 жыл бұрын

    How about notifications? Did you ditch them on purpose? Just curious.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Notifications were turned on. As mentioned in the video this was using default settings with the exception of gesture mode. Hope that helps!

  • @ZotmundSzele

    @ZotmundSzele

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit Yeah, my bad. You said out of the box. My Fenix 7 sapphire solar hardly does 14 days with similar use and some notifications. Kinda weird but still testing.

  • @diogotravassos9734
    @diogotravassos97346 күн бұрын

    I only leave mine with heart rate on, gesture display, no notifications, no connections (Bluetooth and Wi-Fi)! I can't even spend 24 hours with him. Could there be a problem or is it normal?

  • @ManuelAMartinez
    @ManuelAMartinez2 жыл бұрын

    “8 miles in one hour. I’m not very fast”. Lol 😉

  • @frankysour
    @frankysour2 жыл бұрын

    Thankd for the video! Soooo there really is not a good reason to chose the Fenix 7 over the epix... Except... I can't stand a watch with a black face most of the time, and shining own light the rest of the time... Just looks unnatural to me... Guess I'm getting old, with my taste 😂

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well the Fenix 7X still has considerably longer battery life in both GPS and standby mode but for most the Epix is probably good enough. AMOLED is personal preference... it's not for everyone!

  • @danielmitchinson8503
    @danielmitchinson85032 жыл бұрын

    I dont care if you have to charge it after 3 days this watch is a beauty 😁its like people cant be arsed to take the watch off to charge these days

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol, thanks for sharing!

  • @dzhebe1
    @dzhebe1 Жыл бұрын

    why you need that watch if you turn off all external sensors? ? ??

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    Жыл бұрын

    I didn't turn off all of the external sensors.

  • @Catcrumbs
    @Catcrumbs2 жыл бұрын

    The Epix does not have a backlight. Also, unless there has been a change from the Fenix 6, you should be able to take screenshots by assigning a button or combination of buttons to that function in System > Hot Keys. Then again I guess it's simpler to snap a pic with a phone 🤷🏻‍♂

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Old habits die hard. I'll probably call AMOLED displays "Backlights" for the foreseeable future lol. Sure, I could screenshot the display but it's just easier for me to show the display on camera in real time. Thanks for watching.

  • @shannonyeo619
    @shannonyeo6192 жыл бұрын

    How many hours of GPS total was used during this single charge?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    I ran between 30 minutes to 1 hour a day during the 15 days of use. Looking at my strava it was 9 days outside with GPS and 6 days on the treadmill.

  • @shannonyeo619

    @shannonyeo619

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit that's killer. If anything it beats Garmins 16 day estimate because I assume that means watch only? Thanks for replying.

  • @BGRecon
    @BGRecon2 жыл бұрын

    Is that the Ethos mic I see/hear?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup!

  • @FPShkED
    @FPShkED Жыл бұрын

    If you're not spending weeks out in the wilderness, why do you even need a 30 day battery life? For any normal person it's easy, take off your watch during your shower and plug it in! lol Unlimited battery life right there.

  • @Montecitodesign
    @Montecitodesign Жыл бұрын

    Does this watch record sleep? If not, what’s the point of sleeping with the watch on your wrist?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes it does. Sleep data also plays a role in the body battery and recovery tools on the watch.

  • @stuartmenzies3928
    @stuartmenzies3928 Жыл бұрын

    Ok We get it!!!! You run every day...Jesus! CHange the record

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    Жыл бұрын

    Did I mention I run EVERY DAY?

  • @TONYREYES53
    @TONYREYES532 жыл бұрын

    Where is the link to the battery widget

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Whoops, I forgot that. Adding it now!

  • @wkt3390
    @wkt3390 Жыл бұрын

    15 days battery go is good to go , with Amoled screen

  • @KomengDeBatiste
    @KomengDeBatiste2 жыл бұрын

    This is still in my Wish List...price still too much...in the mean time, I'm training with Huawei GT Runner...spec wise quite similar with the Epix2. Re: Epix2 real life battery life...that's really impressive!!!

  • @renevh2832

    @renevh2832

    2 жыл бұрын

    Spec wise similar, you mean it is also a round watch which has an amoled display. It would say spec wise totally different, which explains the price tag.

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's certainly not cheap! I've been trying to get my hands on a GT Runner how do you like it?

  • @KomengDeBatiste

    @KomengDeBatiste

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit loving it so far, been 2 weeks now. Tailored more towards road running, it's very light, battery life is acceptable, love the interactive watch faces, accurate HR, accurately tracks sleep and naps, and trying out the AI coach soon.

  • @KomengDeBatiste

    @KomengDeBatiste

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@renevh2832 amoled, dual band 5 system GNSS, SPO², 24/7 HR, stress, sleeps and naps tracking, BUT only bread crumbs nav.

  • @thewestdepererunner8423
    @thewestdepererunner84232 жыл бұрын

    This is off the topic of the video, but I was wondering if it is possible to edit the activity data screens of the Epix Gen 2 and the Fenix 7 via the Garmin Connect web portal? I know that you can through the phone app, but I was just curious because it would be nice to look at on a desktop. Thanks!

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately no, only through the app.

  • @silentwarrior2385
    @silentwarrior23852 жыл бұрын

    Its me again. I was stuck between the fenix 7 sapphire solar vs 945 but now I'm leaning towards the epix. Is it that much better than the fenix?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    They're the same watch just with different displays and battery life specs. Epix is OLED, Fenix is MIP.

  • @weekendpartier
    @weekendpartier Жыл бұрын

    so... it seems like the battery life is even better than my Fenix 5???!! Cuz, I charge my watch every six days... what am I doing wrong on my F5?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    Жыл бұрын

    Could be, the Fenix 5 is an older watch so the battery is likely degraded a bit since it was new. Try turning down your backlight setting and timeout.

  • @Marcins607
    @Marcins6072 жыл бұрын

    Is it worth switching from apple watch to garmin epix 2? can anyone comment and why? greetings

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    It depends. If you want more of a sports watch and less of a smartwatch along with WAY longer battery life the Epix 2 is worth it. On the other hand the Apple Watch is still a better smartwatch for daily use. Really depends on your use case.

  • @Marcins607

    @Marcins607

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit thanks I like the epix very much, at the moment I have an apple watch and I think it is a very well-functional watch, but it has a weak battery ... the choice is really difficult ... although I do not run, only a bicycle, swimming and gym are more recreational ...

  • @SirRasor
    @SirRasor2 жыл бұрын

    Hmm..this got me thinking: can I improve battery life by connecting an external HR sensor? Except from yoga, it will disable onboard HR measures, so that saves battery, but the ANT+ connection drains a bit...somebody actually tested this?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    The strange thing about Garmin's is that even with an external HR sensor paired the watch still pulses the LED's on the internal HR sensor (but doesn't use the data). So there's really not a HUGE leap in terms of battery life. However, if you actually go into your settings and DISABLE the built in OHR sensor you should see a significant bump.

  • @SirRasor

    @SirRasor

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit Nope, I checked accidentally, that's why I asked. So I was doing a bicycle ride with the Fenix 7s and a Kalenji HRB 500 arm band was connected to it via ANT+ and after I finished the ride and saved the activity, the HR on the watch showed nothing for 10-15 seconds. As if it was shut off completely. So I started another ride and raised the sensor a bit from my wrist and noticed that no light was coming out at all. Okay, let's look at while running: same thing. Strength exercise? Same. Yoga? okay, yoga uses the built in sensor, but maybe because of the breathing...or it is a bug :) Okay-okay, maybe this is only for the Fenix 7 series. I have a Venu SQ (And now a Forerunner 745, because I had to send back the Fenix 7s because of the weight and thickness) and it is the same on them!

  • @81artant
    @81artant2 жыл бұрын

    Any fr955 news?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nope

  • @paulski107
    @paulski107 Жыл бұрын

    "Backlight" LOL

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    Жыл бұрын

    Old habits die hard!

  • @Panagiotis-Skordilis
    @Panagiotis-Skordilis Жыл бұрын

    Which treadmill is that Dave ?

  • @ChaseTheSummit

    @ChaseTheSummit

    Жыл бұрын

    NordicTrack X11i

  • @Panagiotis-Skordilis

    @Panagiotis-Skordilis

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit Thanks

  • @Panagiotis-Skordilis

    @Panagiotis-Skordilis

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChaseTheSummit kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4BhsbGbaMe3h9I.html WOW what theeeeee fffffff

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