Interesting spreadsheet of functionality here! About the only things it's missing from the Flydigi Vader 3 Pro is the extra buttons.

Welp i already bought it but this was such an honest and detailed review thank you for this 👍

Is this controller better than the 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth for pc and yuzu ? 🙏

Great and deep review! What's the name and brand of the "Rainbow" controller you mention in the last part? And.. have you tested the 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth and the Vader 3 pro?

@RetroBreezeYT

8 ай бұрын

1. BigBigWon Rainbow 2 Pro 2. 🙈 it is the Vader 3 Pro, I said 2 by mistake. It's fantastic! 3. I have not tested the 8bitdo Ultimate yet but I want to!

This or easysmx 9124 pro? What is better? Or are there any other budget controller, that are better? Besides the expensive 8bitdo?

Damn, that was a GREAT review. Most reviews i watched about this controller looked like from people that used the controller for only 15 minutes. Really appreciate that you showed how the DPAD is bad, and how the sticks have friction with the plastic. I think i will pay a little more and get the 8bitdo ultimate blutooth. I wish you had reviewed that one too haha but seens like a good controller

@RetroBreezeYT

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I always intricately test my controllers before a review! Definitely planning to review the 8BitDo Ultimate soon!

I like the T4 Kaleid design. The clear case and RGB is so nice.

How bizarre that they've messed this up so much after doing the T4 Kaleid, but thanks for doing a detailed review of it

but can you put anti friction rings on the cyclone pro?

I WAS going to buy this controller until seeing this. I have changed my order now to the T4 Kaleid. Thank you.

@regwatson2017

8 сағат бұрын

Exactly same here. What a shame they just didn't make Kaleid wireless.

Bro theres a new update for miyoo mini. What are your thoughts about the pico8 addition?

@RetroBreezeYT

8 ай бұрын

I'm swamped so I haven't had time to check it out, but what I've seen looks fantastic!

After using the Gamesir G7 SE, I wanted a similar controller, but one that has mechanical face buttons, hall effect sticks and trigger vibration. I'm a fan of strong haptic feedback, I've found the haptics in the G7 SE to be too weak unless you sync the trigger vibration with the grip vibration. So I was worried the Kaleid wouldn't have strong haptic feedback so I decided to go with the Cyclone Pro, and I'm enjoying it so far. I dont notice the grinding sticks and I dont really use the D-pad for anything other than navigating menus, so for my own personal use case, it's a fine controller.

Thank you

Gosh, I never thought it had so many negative points... I'd better stick with my g7 se, I know it works great.. btw wich are the best hall effect joystick so far now ? i have pc

@zed2860

7 ай бұрын

but it's wired....

@stevensv4864

7 ай бұрын

yes but 1000hz poling rate@@zed2860

Seems like this controller don't have a turbo function, which is a bummer. Do you people know a controller who mimics the "dualsense" vibrations and a turbo function? I could swear these new Gamesir PC controllers had turbo function through software, but doesn't seem to be the case

Lol. "This is the worst Dpad I've seen on anything ever!" I have to love your polarising statements... I never do this in my videos... 😏

@RetroBreezeYT

8 ай бұрын

I'm always cautious to be so dramatic, but I tried removing ego from my videos a few back and it came off stale. I'd prefer to share my candid thoughts, but I do tend to lean into extremes I guess. Just my personality I suppose!

using the dongle that comes with the controller, the vibration of the triggers does not work on the pc

@RetroBreezeYT

8 ай бұрын

It works on mine, but requires the sketchy app to activate them

@prengolengos

8 ай бұрын

but did your controller connect in xinput blue mode using the dongle that comes with it?

Just my own experience here but I don't think the hall effect stick modules on the Cyclone are that good, to be honest. They don't feel as smooth as others on other controllers I own. And yes, the d-pad on the Cyclone is very bad. GameSir should've spent those extra 10 cents on a better d-pad.

@RetroBreezeYT

8 ай бұрын

You may well be right. And either way the modules are wasted.

@Po7ent

8 ай бұрын

What’s a better option

@aweigh1010

8 ай бұрын

@@Po7entAt the same price range? Flydigi Direwolf is an excellent controller.

@naam4769

7 ай бұрын

Have you ever experienced 8bitdo d-pads or the one from T4 kaleid? I'm looking up for a precise- dpad with correct input for mostly 90s old school games. Yet, I only have experience with 3rd party cheap controllers. Would appreciate the help.

@stevensv4864

7 ай бұрын

so wich is the best on your opinion?

Which hall effect sensors are they using?

@RetroBreezeYT

2 ай бұрын

I believe they use K-Silver sticks

Does it support ps4?

gamesir G4 Pro is better?

@RetroBreezeYT

7 ай бұрын

I haven't tested that one myself unfortunately

The trigger vibration is amazing for example on Forza Motorsports. I can use teh vibration to feel the wheels locking up and have perfect braking without using in-game ABS. Regarding the stupidly annoying whine you get at half press, sorry to say you got a defective controller. My first one was like that, it's the electric motor getting stuck at "half" voltage for some reason. I returned it and got a second controller and its perfect now. Overall, great review :)

@NonsenseExe

6 ай бұрын

Does it feel like a stock xbox controller vibration?

vader 3 pro next? lets go

@RetroBreezeYT

8 ай бұрын

I reeeaaally gotta get to it 😅

Really well made review! I too prefer to not have RGB lights at all as it breaks immersion, and you are right to shame those bloatware apps, that should exist. I love how you can incense a company device and then properly destroy another device from the same company 😂 Joke aside it’s reassuring about your integrity. Would love your point of view on 8bitDo SN30 Pro/Pro 2 and Ultimate for sure, hope you can pull that out.

@RetroBreezeYT

8 ай бұрын

Ah yeah I should definitely check out the new 8BitDos. I have owned three in the past but I hold reservations because none of them have lasted more than a year before developing a game-breaking problem such a the wireless not working, or single buttons not working. I'll see if I can pick one up soon though!

Ooh, it looks cool but it’s a shame it’s not as good as the KALEID…

@RetroBreezeYT

8 ай бұрын

Yes, it is a real disappointment unfortunately!

I just got one and my sticks feel completely smooth even without anti-friction rings. Any controller reviewer worth his salt would tell you that anti-friction rings are useless 99% of the time anyway.

@RetroBreezeYT

5 ай бұрын

I completely disagree with that honestly. Almost all marketing for controllers is snake oil these days but a good stick shaft and anti friction ring makezls a massive difference in my opinion

IMHO, This controller is like Gulikit Kingkong 2 if they're follow wrong design direction.

Cyclone? More like recycled clone amirite But at least hall effects are normalising into the mainstream even among the worst.

@RetroBreezeYT

8 ай бұрын

Oh man I wish I had thought of that!

eh, so tired of controllers going "HEY LOOK! I HAVE EXTRA BUTTONS!"* *not actually extra inputs, only remap to other existing buttons on the controller, Knock it off. Give us extra inputs for real, i get the driver limitation for emulating an xbox gamepad on pc, but there are other input modes available, use them. give direct access to the gyros as their own axis, not remaps to an analog stick, etc.

@thesidneychan

8 ай бұрын

I have a razer sabretooth with extra triggers at the back that are just mirrored to the other existing buttons. A relatively expensive premium controller that couldn't be remapped. It's mind blowing how silly that is.

@RetroBreezeYT

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree! I want a controller with a CPU of its own that can handle stiff like this- - gyro to mouse - independent gyro axes - remappable buttons (including keyboard keys) Just like full QMK-like firmware.

@ferdgerbeler8494

8 ай бұрын

@@RetroBreezeYT And it's not like its a crazy request, with good controllers costing up towards $100 or more, there is plenty of room to work some more tech in there without eating the profit. Bout time for PC first controllers with console compatibility second instead of the other way around, it's not a small market, and PC gamers are fine with spending money on hardware.

@csolisr

8 ай бұрын

​@@RetroBreezeYTIf only I knew enough about reverse engineering, I'd take a shot at building a custom firmware for my Vader 3 Pro.

Advice, do not take it, as you will encounter problems. It is true that the company cared about the quality of the product, but they did not care about instructions. This means that you will not get clear instructions. If you encounter a problem, just how to connect it to the devices. I faced problems with the hand, and I did not find the company talking about it or in the user guide. Every time I have a problem, charge the hand even though it It is charged and the problem disappears. I do not recommend it. Take a reliable hand.