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@mitcoes

2 ай бұрын

EXoDOS, with QEMU and MS WOS install as Launchbox has no Li(g)nux version, the patch for Linux is still not available, and it does not work well yet with wine. BUT, you can use part of their games just with DOSBOX or use other launcher, without the goodies of the database.

@patryn36

2 ай бұрын

That rise of legends error you got is the same one i am getting trying to run diablo 2 resurrected, diablo 3 and both starcrafts work on my ubuntu, i am not linux savy by any means.

"Serial key verification?? Ughh, those are the worse" *DRM rootkits enter the chat*

@alvallac2171

2 ай бұрын

*worst (opposite of "best") worse = opposite of "better"

Black and white actually is the perfect game to be remade / convert into VR game

@Denis-Maldonado

2 ай бұрын

Yes please!

@xinaesthetic

2 ай бұрын

I’ve been thinking about this for years…

@jaymondo

2 ай бұрын

Been a gamer for 40 years, I've never played it😮

@UltimateGattai

2 ай бұрын

I'm honestly surprised it hasn't happened, even more surprised that no one has made a spiritual successor to the franchise.

I saw a documentary on GoG that was like a year old I think, but in it they were talking about how they were trying to get the rights to sell B&W 1+2. They are trying. Though I saw something saying GoG wasn't what it used to be.

You definitely unlocked a core memory showing me black-and-white again. I used to love that back in the day. 😢

CD based installations is something i wish Wine and/or Lutris were better at handling

@gardiner_bryant

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. Haha

Good news is Simcity 3000 does work on steam deck, you need to install cnc-ddraw (you just need the dll and maybe it's config file) and it works. I tested it with the steam version on the deck and it works fine

@gardiner_bryant

2 ай бұрын

I'm going to follow up on this in a future video! Thank you!

@GamerAnime200

2 ай бұрын

@gardiner_bryant Hello, um, I was wondering if you could make a tutorial on how to download games using fitgirl Repack on the steam deck, please 🙏?

@morobest5351

2 ай бұрын

Game work fine used proton experimental thet games work fine no needed for mod recommend play it on pc keyboard and mouse game mod used if what fixed bug only

For a Big Box game to try to install I'll go with one that is highly requested by people on GOG, No One Lives Forever. When GOG got Alpha Protocol RE-listed on there store a lot of people were begging for them to go after NOLF next.

@alvallac2171

2 ай бұрын

*their store (possessive) they're = contraction of "THEY aRE" there: for all other uses

Wait wait wait waitwaitwaitwaitwait you were HOW OLD when you left your parents' house and was working full time?!?!?!

@imperialcitizen4811

2 ай бұрын

Seconding this.

@gardiner_bryant

2 ай бұрын

I was 15 or 16. It was late 2005 and I was in a pretty abusive, fundamentalist home. I had no choice but to find a job working under the table. And when I told my parents I left the church, they told me I could never come home. So my grandparents let me stay at their home while they were in Florida. Quickly thereafter I got my first apartment at 17.

@wikwayer

2 ай бұрын

​@@gardiner_bryantthat ROF man 😢

@FakeMichau

2 ай бұрын

@@gardiner_bryant wild, i'm happy it all worked out for you

@rexwilliams7643

2 ай бұрын

Glad everything worked out for you, can't understand how any parent could do that but religion can do that to people.

stagger at 1:28 when talking about optical drives is gold

That was a halfway decent Homestar Runner impression.

@gardiner_bryant

2 ай бұрын

It was a bad one by my standards haha

@MarceldeJong

2 ай бұрын

@@gardiner_bryantit was a great strongbad though

@NightSprinter

2 ай бұрын

@@gardiner_bryant was quite a STRONG bad, if'n you know what I mean. Now the big question is: what is the ONE game you've played on the Deck that gave you the jibblies?

Loved the homestar runner references in this episode 😂

I remember this rabbit hole from a couple of years ago. I have 2 "retro" machines running windows XP just for this and thought maybe Linux was the answer to playing retro games on a modern machine, After spending a hour or so banging my head against the wall I just went back to Windows XP. I had thought it would be fun to have a dedicated linux gaming machine just for retro games but it didn't work out. I might give it another try something when I feel like messing with retro stuff again because its been 3 or 4 years since I last tried and my linux knowledge has grown and a lot of work has been done to making things compatible.

Bottles is a curious piece of software. I've found that it adds the game's recently installed executable shortcuts to the list of launch executables ONLY AFTER leaving the particular bottle page and clicking back into it. I too tried manually adding the "desktop shortcuts" or their direct executables and LOL'd when I learned it did this itself the next time I opened Bottles!

@Redmage913

2 ай бұрын

This can be game-specific too. Some games open up a splash window by default and requires setting the game EXE regardless. Example: Star Trek Armada defaults to a splash window.

I think this is the first video that I actually really liked and it was very very interesting. And I want to thanks for it.

Black and white 2 was brilliant just no skirmish that pissed me off. I still got it somewhere in the house. Thank u for the flash back

Battlefield 1942. There is a Steam Community post that takes you through the steps of getting it to run on Windows 10 and how to connect to community driven servers. It even points you to a website where to download the game. The Anthology version is fully patched and runs on modrrn Windows, out of the gate. Haven't tried it on Steamdeck, though.

Love your vid, have you tried Warcraft 3 from the boxed copy? I have my original boxed copy of WC3 and havent been able to install it. Would love to see a video of that :)

Interesting info! Thanks for the video!

GE-proton 9.1 works for me on every game 👍

I tried to play PS2 games using an external DVD drive on Steam Deck. Works like a charm!

@eivis13

2 ай бұрын

Did it give you the "Insert cartridge 3" achievement? Because that's basically what you did. It's has far less steps involved than what is being described in the video.

Now if only we could get MechCommander 1, Gold, and 2 working like this, then we'd have something going on!

I went down this rabbit hole on the steam deck about a year ago. In a lot of cases the disc swapping issue can be resolved by changing the drive letter from the default assigned by wine. My memory isn't very good, but I feel like a lot of older games expect to be mounted on the E:/ drive.

I've installed and played a few games from CDs/DVDs with lutris in the last year/months since I own a Steam Deck. In fact, that's my preferred way. I've installed and still play the original GTA Trilogy for example with this. Some games I played were on disks from a german pc magazine "Computer Bild Spiele". This includes Sudeki, Midnight Nowhere, Knight Rider 1 and 2 and Emergancy 1 to 4 with expansions. Other games like Radio Control Racers Deluxe, Sims 1 Complete Edition, Silent Hill 2 to 4, Chaser, Unreal and System Shock 2 work aswell the same way. Sometimes it's so frustrating and time consuming to debug what a game is missing or why it crashes (i.e. the game Gene Troopers). Most of the time you'll have to install dependencies like the indeo video codec, lavfilters, dsound or other directx components through winetricks. And copy protection needs some...workarounds from the internet. But when it works - oh boy what a feeling! 😊

Nice Homestar Runner and Strong Bad e-mail voices. 🙂

Love Black and White! That game was something new. My favourite games from that era were Oni, MDK2, Giants: Citizen Kabuto and Messiah (Shiny Entertainment will always have a special place in my heart ), Heavy Metal fakk 2

Tf was that spot on Strongbad voice?! Homestar wasn't bad either 😆

I'm actually curious if you could manage to get any of the Knowledge Adventure games working on SD, more specifically 3D Dinosaur Adventure. That was my favorite game ever as a kid and it would be amazing to be able to replay them whenever and wherever.

I'm pretty sure you can find both versions of Black and White available for download since they're technically abandonware.

Idk why you needed a disc drive to do any of this, but i love the weirdness

I would love to see how i can run my old amiga 500 games on the steam deck. I would love to play bubble booble with a friend on one or even two different steam decks so I might finally reach the endgame lvl 100.

Heroic launcher now has a feature that allows to add custom games by simply running the installer. It also crashed way less than lutris for gog and epic games in my experience. Also btw StarCraft Remastered is pretty good

I was thinking about playing some old stuff I used to play as a kid on the Deck. Late 90s, early 2000s games, mostly RTS, with a couple shooters and of course, Worms Armageddon. Still haven't got to it, but maybe I try after watching your video. By the way, Valve has recently updated Proton with better support for some really old titles. As for your external drive, I have the same drive from Amazon in a different case, got it for burning Lightscribe CDs. Lack of native USB-C is expected as this is a noname product. But if you can live with the limitations, it does the job. The case also has slots for SD cards which is a great bonus for me who often flashes microSDs for the likes of Raspberry Pi.

In my experience with Lutris, installing games from local install files (or network share like you did) is the main way of installing games, and using their online installer scripts is for special cases

Dungeon Siege 2 is a candidate for me on this issue. Which is why I own two version of the game my original physical copy + expansion and the digital versions on GOG & Steam. But due to some BS they left out the Expansion on the digital versions so I had no choice but too get a third version without DRM to circumvent problems. I have it backed up so when I finish installing everything to my now off of Windows because win 10 decided that secure boot is not active when it was blue screen crashing randomly on a clean fresh install. This is why I keep three to four Linux distros on USBs on all times. Fresh copy of Linux Mint, Now only thing needed is to replace the fans on my 1070 mini or get another GPU & repair it later, I just repasted it yesterday. Temps went down at least 20*C on idle. I always enjoy watching your videos, I just realized KZread unsubbed me so resub instantly when I saw the two of the three games you were installing.

That was fun ;) I'm a wing commander man. You should try getting all the game sin the series working. After solving problems with video playback, the main issue is joystick control isnt great

Did you try any of the games you had problems with through proton in steam? I got SimCity 2000 working off my original install cd's (copied over) by adding the installer to steam, then setting it to use proton, and installing it. After install I changed the steam entry to point to the simcity 2000 exe and it mostly worked. The sound wasn't working and I found that I had to install some other thing for midi sound, but after that it worked perfect! Proton is kind of amazing!

nice Strongbad impression at 6:13 and homestar at 6:28

Ive learned something about cd installs. thank you

Strongbad and Homestar! Can you do the KoT?

good to see black and white works, really wish gog was able to remaster both games, do u happen to have a copy of gothos from 1997 curious if it works if it does ill get buy a cd player for it.

Next up: external floppy drive for DOS games?

Rise of Legends was so much fun. The campaign was really good. It's a shame we never got an extended edition of it like we did RoN.

i had a very similar issue with a USB 3½" floppy drive. It worked but only just, it wasn't as reliable as a proper 3½" floppy drive in my old Pentium back in the day. I had to constantly unplug the drive and plug it back in to read a dksk. Sure some disks didn't read since they are like 20 years old but still I had more reliability with an actual floppy drive in an old 90's era PC. This must be why retro gamers still keep 90s (and older) era PCs around.

For Need for Speed Most Wanted 2005 since I couldn't figure out how to install from multiple discs I installed it on my Windows computer and just copied them to my steam deck which worked perfectly fine for me. Still trying to figure out how to get the steering to work properly though, It's either no turn or max turn. Edit: Maybe a short tutorial for how to install multi disc games because im lazy?

SC broodwar is free on Blizzard or if you have it installed on your pc copy/paste the game folder to you Steam Deck SD Card, (i created a games folder) add exe to non steam games, Set proton comp to Experimental, add suffix on Shortcut tab Launch Options "-launch" the game will not require Blizz app after that. Set desired hotkeys and play :D This also works for Diablo II: Lord of Destruction (2000-01). Great Vid BLACK AND WHITE 2 NEEDS TO COME TO GOG OR STEAM soo much nostalgia with that game.

Love the Migs and Megs homestar reference @6:13

@gardiner_bryant

2 ай бұрын

I was worried nobody would get the reference. I know it's from H*R but I can't remember exactly which Sbemail it's from. Do you know?

@sfrogley1906

2 ай бұрын

@@gardiner_bryant it’s this one kzread.info/dash/bejne/hGZm3LWroMi5cZc.htmlsi=xr_BYCDzW3EnKljm Such a classic

@sfrogley1906

2 ай бұрын

@@gardiner_bryant it’s the video games sbemail

You can often try adding dgvoodoo2 dll files for these games to work. I made sims1 work on Linux with that one for example (yes, the full one with all expansions).

So there isn't any way to "mount" iso to make it detectable by games? Ivguess there should be some workarounds that do not require cracks but I might be wrong

Have you considered dumping all the disk files to a single iso file and mounting the iso file in the wine/bottles/steam and running it that way?

@gardiner_bryant

2 ай бұрын

What would that do?

It would be great to know if there is a legit work around to getting the Steam releases of Rise of Nations and SimCity 3000 working in Proton, since the ProtonDB page doesn't provide the right information needed to get them working on Steam Deck. I currently have the GOG version of SimCity 3000 instead of the Steam version, but I can still get it to run in Proton using Lutris and Heroic Game Launcher.

I’ve experimented with this too, and had mixed results. No-name DVD drives are a horror story, and if you’re looking for a cheap option, I’d recommend the slim external drives sold by Dell as a low-cost alternative. I would say, for Steam, it’s best to save yourself the trouble of Lutris in most cases and work entirely in Proton. Many more things will just work, and you’ll spend less time fighting with programs that refuse to load. (Plus, you’ll be fully playable in handheld mode from the get-go with controller configs.) Just run the .EXE from the disc as a Non-Steam Game, then point the executable to the game’s .EXE. Reliability can be mixed, there, but it comes with some great, reliable features There are also quite a few titles which, while you can get them working on the Deck, are best played with their PlayStation 2 console ports instead. No One Lives Forever is a prime example of this, as the PC port is a pain in the butt to get configured while the PS2 version runs perfectly with EmuDeck & PCSX2.

This is cool! Although for StarCraft at least you can get it running just fine on battle net, but it was too small so I uninstalled it pretty quickly

I have been wanting to play zoo tycoon 2 on linux for years. I have managed to get zoo tycoon 1 cc running, but not 2. Does anyone know how to get this gem of a game to run?

so retro!

Ah, that reminds me I still haven't installed Claw from Monolith Games on my Deck.

I have a question, I have a non steam game that works but it kind of runs improperly. Like the framerate is all over the place and issues with resolution. Should I just run that game off lutris or bottles instead and test it that way?

For Rise of Legends... I'd try getting DX8 dlls installed in the bottle, maybe directsound, directmusic, or WMP would be needed with some of those old games. some of the msxml packages help with some old games of that time too. I'd try but I don't have the game. Sometimes I swap the wined3d driver so its using OpenGL instead of Vulkan when seeing graphics errors... sometimes works.

the only thing i know about b&w is the dancing bear winamp plugin it sadly doesnt work on w10

9:01 - I'd buy that for a dollar! Ah ha ha ha ha!

Oh man, I’ve been replaying SC3000 lately and it’s such a vibe I know it makes no sense but I still like it more than SimCity 4, it just feels like SC2000 with updated graphics - it’s that Goldie locks territory between too little simulation and too much simulation that hits the spot for chill city building for me

Now the real task is to get black on my one with the expansion, pack creature island to work on the steam deck

this might be Home star runner

I installed an ancient Tetris for PC on my Deck (Tetris Elements), realized how bad it was, and then bought Tetris Effect 🤣

I've successfully installed Need For Speed Underground II on my Steam Deck in bottles, after a bit of fiddling and I had to use No-CD Crack and some patches for widescreen.

C'mon.. at least a 1/5 for the Ninja Turtle shell case.

Nice

OMG I've been wanting to play rise of legends for so long. Haven't gotten it working on linux either 😢

I did play back Giants Citizen Kabuto on my Steam Deck

@chanwooksook

2 ай бұрын

Wow. I have just left a comment about Giants. One of the best games I ever played

Oh God, no. I own that same drive and I'm about to do a project. I'm doomed.

You can use Ghidra or IDA to reverse engineer the game executable. Search for the string in the graphics stuff error message and then check the addresses from where the string is called. You'll usually find some conditional jumps there and if you're lazy and don't want to do the hard work of finding out all of the things they do just try inverting the condition (JZ=>JNZ; JE=>JNE; etc.) and see if it brings you further. It helps if you have some basic understanding of x86 disassembly

How can you maintain 300+ APM in Brood War on the Steam Deck???

Have you actually played any of those games after you installed them? I used to do the same with GTA VC and other old games, and after the installation and initial run, I have never played them again😅😅.

@gardiner_bryant

2 ай бұрын

I've played StarCraft and B&W2 for a few hours each. Haha

You could have created .isos from the disks and mounted ?

@gardiner_bryant

2 ай бұрын

I tried that at first. But it made things overly complicated, honestly. I just copied the files off the disk.

Sees the setup at 1:38 ... audible: "Jebus H Christ" ... Edit: I used to play the heck out of Sim Ant

I put Diablo 1 on my Steamdeck but with the Devilution X engine that was easy mode.

Black and white 2 is abandonware and can be downloaded for free on the abandonware site

Ok to get rise of legends to work you need to use port proton this gives you choices others don’t usualy give :) and will allow you to play the game and tweek the in game menu to fine tune it :)

Loving all the H*R voice references!

2:05 aren't these scripts editable?

Take it apart you can change the usb cable and its just a laptop drive missing the top cover.

I know this was for games, but I bought a portable blu-ray player thinking I could watch stuff on Steam Deck. Nope, I could only find information on ripping blu-rays and watching them like that. Such a pain

@Cyanwasserstoff

2 ай бұрын

You need extra software. Makemkv (paid version), vlc and vlc makemkv plugin work for me. All available as Flatpaks

@alvallac2171

2 ай бұрын

VLC can play Blu-rays if you set it up with the necessary files to handle the decryption for the AACS DRM that commercial Blu-rays use..You won't be able to see the interactive menu screen designed by the disc's creator, but from the VLC menubar, you will be able to blindly select titles and chapters (with generic names like Title 1, Title 2, etc. so you just have to try them and see what they are). Note that I've only done this with HD Blu-Rays. 4K Blu-ray uses a stronger version of AACS DRM that might make this more difficult, but I've never a 4K Blu-ray drive so I can't say for sure. On the MakeMKV forum, I've seen something about a certain drive firmware that helps with 4K Blu-rays.

@Punmaster9001

2 ай бұрын

@@alvallac2171 I know, but I couldn't get it to work on my Steam Deck, and some of the options required doing stuff I'm not familiar with and wasn't comfortable with attempting

@Cyanwasserstoff

2 ай бұрын

@@Punmaster9001 you need to install VLC, makemkv (+ license) and makemkv vlc plugin. That would decode the Blu-ray disc in VLC

Proton tricks try that

launch Starcraft off Steam via proton - this is how i have been playing my starcraft copy XD

uhm, I don't have a drive can I rip the disc to ISO file and run it?

@gardiner_bryant

2 ай бұрын

That was what I tried first. You don't need an ISO for most games. You can just copy the files off the disk.

@denmaakujin9161

2 ай бұрын

@@gardiner_bryant tried to install "Pink Panther", copied files from the iso, got to installation part by using the lutris script and it won't start. Also tried manually just starting the exe files. Not worth the trouble 😜

I have one thing to say: cnc-ddraw

@gardiner_bryant

2 ай бұрын

I'm probably going to do a follow up video. So this will be something I touch on for sure

@Winnetou17

2 ай бұрын

Command and conquer direct draw ???

@olnnn

2 ай бұрын

@@Winnetou17 It seems the 2d command and comquer games is what it was first developed for judging by the original git repository but it's something useful for many old directdraw games on both modern windows and wine

To be far, playing old games is hard on windows a lot of times also. The older, the more difficult.

Lutris install scripts have never once worked for me.

Terran #2, KMart Music?! HOW DARE YOU SIR!

I always felt original black and white was superior to the sequel, played the hell out of it and the creature isle expansion pack. My 500mhz pentium used to struggle

Yeah the installation is the worst part sometimes I just install the game inside the vm and copy the files to host

Warcraft 1+2+3!

My copy of spore is a dvd, and i still play it regularly on my Linux pc. Bottles ftw 💪

Rise of Nations mentioned let's gooo 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

@gardiner_bryant

2 ай бұрын

I love Rise of Nations

@reiniermoreno1653

2 ай бұрын

@@gardiner_bryant is a very difficult game to find unless you buy the remastered version on steam

I think I want 7:32 on my headstone...

If you could get Star Trek : Birth of the Federation working on Deck you would be a GOD! pls do a video :)

cnc collection seems to run like renegade

I wish the steam deck would let me play splinter cell conviction on linux

If you get the right drive you can rip PS3 games without the console and backup Blu-ray disks with makemkv and handbrake.

@aftonstjarna4530

2 ай бұрын

There's a list of drives on the rpcs3 site

Kind of bummed out that I can't get C&C Generals to run on Steam even though it shows it should run on Linux. Bought that bundle but then again, it's EA that released them so should've known they wouldn't patch or fix anything for modern resolutions.