It’s been 6 years, but this is still my favorite theory MatPat’s ever done.

@MacenW

4 жыл бұрын

Ayy

@DreamcastFarm

4 жыл бұрын

Not sure if it’s my absolute favorite but definitely one of them

@charadreemurr909

4 жыл бұрын

Hah

@aaronjoshua5211

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@samuellohnas900

4 жыл бұрын

I really wish he'd do more like this.

You missed one. Since you mentioned "Waters become wormwood and bitter". In the Ioka village, (prehistoric) there is a hut, where your HP/MP is restored, by a chick offering you "sweet water". After Lavos enters the scene, she says. "No more sweet water".

@rookyofficial

5 жыл бұрын

‼️😲 even more reason for this to be my favorite game of all time!!

@sparkythemanectric8751

5 жыл бұрын

@@rookyofficial times*

@Sansmemelordover

4 жыл бұрын

In the DS version it’s called happy water.

@LuckyOwI777

4 жыл бұрын

@@sparkythemanectric8751 ...what? Time is correct. "times" makes literally no sense. You tried to correct something, that wasn't even wrong. Oof.

@sparkythemanectric8751

4 жыл бұрын

@@LuckyOwI777 it was a joke about how chrono was time traveling, also that comment is over a year haha

Watching this in 2016. Matpat's microphones have gotten so much better

@SebasSant87

7 жыл бұрын

Same here! WTF!

@blank5480

7 жыл бұрын

SebasSant87

@real.chaos0720

7 жыл бұрын

I don't think his voice necessarily got higher.. I think his voice is just more natural now rather than 3 years ago when he was trying to use his 'radio voice'. Lol. But hey... that's just a theory, a .... oh wait, that's not my line. :D

@hamsty9582

7 жыл бұрын

José Jorge Matute Watching this in 2017

@captaincatgirl9294

7 жыл бұрын

Hamsty 95 same here

Chrono's magic wasn't light/thunder in Japan: it was "Ten" which translates into Heaven. Chrono had Heaven magic

@ajrances8708

2 жыл бұрын

天気 (tenki) isnt it?

@serath78

2 жыл бұрын

He's a saint/paladin that performs miracles

@lostonessoul5154

2 жыл бұрын

HOW DO YOU HAVE MAGIC BASED ON HEAVEN!?

@serath78

2 жыл бұрын

@@lostonessoul5154 By having God and his angels in speed dial.

@lostonessoul5154

2 жыл бұрын

@@serath78 ......O....K? *Is processing*

Just a note, in the Japanese version, the lightning element is called the Holy element. Bada-boom.

@kaiserfranzvonlappen3950

6 жыл бұрын

You pudding spoiled brat, how dare you make fun of my desert.

@RabblesTheBinx

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Lyons how does Crono having Holy magic *not* support the Jesus parallels?

@zimvgiguolivich1937

2 жыл бұрын

yet he equips demonic weapons...

I'm gonna include a bit of knowledge to episode. Once Lavos hit the Earth, you could no longer drink the "Happy Water" that the guy in one of the huts gives you. Similar to how the water was turned to wormwood and made bitter.

RIP Akira Toriyama 1955-2024

@jrloulanza6534

4 ай бұрын

What do you mean???

I'm a big Christian and I honestly love when the bible stories can actually inspire people to make story plots. It's very interesting and cool.

@lugiagalaxy3849

7 жыл бұрын

Definitely :)

@liamshine4863

7 жыл бұрын

That1 Tristen yeah I know it's awesome

@Ralkila

7 жыл бұрын

All religions are ridiculous.

@fuckitweballin759

7 жыл бұрын

I agree with you man.

@liamshine4863

7 жыл бұрын

ScioN y tho

So...does this mean I can consider my love for Chrono Trigger religious?

@unixone7558

8 жыл бұрын

+The Helmaroc King Not exactly.

@oneevidence5153

6 жыл бұрын

I guess...

@Enby_Wendigo

4 жыл бұрын

The Helmaroc King absolutely

@sloggnznorgin6285

4 жыл бұрын

Square-Enix does. ChronoTrigger is their holy grail. They won’t even touch it.

@kolorless-cat

3 жыл бұрын

It was religious before knowing this theory.

As a Christian, this video made me enjoy Chrono Trigger more than I did before. Oh, and thanks for the bible lesson on Revelations. It's been a while since i read it, and my knowledge of it was getting rusty. God bless you, sir.

@goomychrist1984

10 жыл бұрын

Same Here Dont have Everyday To Read Verses.

@OmegaChase1002

10 жыл бұрын

You have time now.

@misterfox7210

2 жыл бұрын

To you as well sibling

@Cyzure

2 жыл бұрын

you are blinded. chrono is satan. this game is mockery

@josephb.4640

Жыл бұрын

AMEN!

Still angry about Crono not being in Super Smash Bros.

@FirstNameLastName-oz5ij

4 жыл бұрын

No Crono in Smash but instead we have yet another Fe character XD *internal crying*

@TheEnigmaticBM39

3 жыл бұрын

@@swishbomb3889 if anything...DQ deserves it

@silentlamb21

2 жыл бұрын

Well, who has the Chrono rights right now? Still Square I guess?

@milesregal4610

2 жыл бұрын

@@silentlamb21 Yeah, Square's always had the rights.

I love coming back to MatPat's older videos. Its nice to see how his channel started!

Guys... Chrono is not God... Chrono is Goku. Look at dragonball, goku beats up dinosaurs What is chrono doing originally, he is finding time rifts (dragonballs) with the help of Lucca (Bulma) who luckily has the gate key (dragonball radar) which is able of opening the rifts. Next, Magus is Vegeta, prince of a foreign race that attempts to eliminate humanity but in reality is trying to defeat the monster destroying the universe, Lavos (Freeza). Magus is defeated by a swordsman who is very out of place, Frog. (Yajirobe) Ayla = Yamcha because wolf fang fist and he helped goku way back in dragon ball when goku was fighting dinosaurs. Robo = Trunks, a defeated character from the future who has experienced the extinction of humanity and their slavery under ROBOTS!! Lastly, the person Chrono marries at the end, Marle! Guess who Marle is! She's ChiChi, the daughter of a king. (Chichi is the daughter of the Ox King.) The Mammoth Machine represents who Freeza was. The final form was the time traveling android that was influenced by everybody's powers Cell! Cell is the final form of Lavos. PS: Gaspar is Kami and where the God of War is, that's the hyperbolic time chamber. It's why you got so strong in a few minutes real time. Chrono Trigger is Dragon Ball through DragonBall Z!!!

@alvinchimp1392

9 жыл бұрын

I kinda think that Marle looks more like Bulma?

@Th3Sh1n1gam1

9 жыл бұрын

Well, if you look at their hair styles, Bulma and Lucca share a similar hairstyle and Chichi and Marle share the longer ponytail.

@greywolf1632

9 жыл бұрын

That's very interesting indeed. Knowing that Akira Toriyama was on the development team, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the result of his influence on the game's story.

@throwdown1776

9 жыл бұрын

Th3Sh1n1gam1 MIND......BLOOOOOOOOOWN

@jamhamtime1878

9 жыл бұрын

Th3Sh1n1gam1 Dude, It's Too Obvious. You Can Just See Their Hairstyle, Body Color And Eye Style. It's Made Exactly Like Dragonball Z (Akira Toriyama Was There). But Chrono Trigger Is Still Based On Bible. Plus, It Was Made By SquareSoft. They Always Make Games Based On Religions (F.F. 1 - F.F. 12, Except F.F 8).

I the bible, Mammon is aramaic for wealth and greed,. The mammon machine is obviously a referencing Queen Zeal's greed for power and immortality. It's was also considered one of the seven princes of Hell and one of the seven deadly sins.

Chrono Trigger is, in my opinion, the best video game ever made.

@Brismo7

6 жыл бұрын

Its based on the Adventures of Jesus.

@jessthemsy7916

6 жыл бұрын

William McCormick what about Portal 2?

@wonderlustking1306

6 жыл бұрын

It’s definitely amazing. But borderlands 2 is better

@MissKinaMina

6 жыл бұрын

It's pretty grand that Lavos replied to this. Hahaha

@robotslayer9690

5 жыл бұрын

@Lavos O h h e c c

Ah, back when Game Theorists was about game theories for all games and not just FNAF or Undertale or whatever indie game is popular at the time. Simpler, better days.

@jackreaper1873

3 жыл бұрын

@Sarah Collins I mean you need to do popular things nowdays so people watch your videos

A game based purely off the Bible would be more brutal than almost every game now. IF you have read it, you will know what I mean.

@Almost8bitGaming

10 жыл бұрын

It depends on what part you're reading.

@rkshireygames

10 жыл бұрын

Almost 8-bit Gaming Not really. It can all be pretty crazy. Especially the 1st testament.

@Almost8bitGaming

10 жыл бұрын

rkshireygames While the Old Testament does have some odd or "brutal" things, some parts of both Testaments also have some "not as brutal" things, such as the many miracles performed by Jesus in the New Testament.

@rkshireygames

10 жыл бұрын

Almost 8-bit Gaming Even what is not brutal could be pretty darn epic.

@CrunchyDark

10 жыл бұрын

A game off the bible would be a fucking porno made with 14 year old girls, slavery, no fucking logic, and you would probably stop playing it less than 2% in to the game before you go trade it in for something a bit more entertaining like a...rock.

Actually, in Japan the three Wise Men in Chrono Trigger are named Gash, Hash, and Bosch.

@UltimaOmegaZero

10 жыл бұрын

-_-

@Natashina01

10 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking the same. That was all on Ted Woosely, who translated the game.

@grimbean4787

10 жыл бұрын

Natashina01 yeah I think translation from Japanese to english can be a fatal flaw for all the video, still there are coincidences that can be taken seriously

@Urthor1996

10 жыл бұрын

Karlos Rodriguez If you think english is fatal... then you don`t know much... english does at least contain the sense... but german translations sometimes change the whole plot -_- English translations are fairly decent compared to others if you were to ask me^^

A guy from the future is going to play Chrono Trigger and will go back in the past to write the Bible

@imminentlitch9267

3 жыл бұрын

So can I play Chrono Trigger instead of going to church???

This has been my favorite Game Theory video for ten years

Before Lavos falls you can talk to a girl in Ayla's village. She gives you some sacred water which heals you. After Lavos falls she no longer gives you this boon and tells you that it's gone. I believe another villager mentions that the water has gone bad or doesn't taste right. The passage that Matpat read says that Wyrmwood, our parallel for Lavos here, poisoned the water. Something that minute and specific is very hard to claim as coincidence. It just strikes me as odd because most other Square RPGs are firmly anti-religion, using Christ imagery in the role of villain and ending with you killing god.

@peloconchafreeman2835

10 жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same and I think there is a villager that says that they didnt have sacred water after lavos fall. I must say Im not convinced at all after watching the video, but great video anyway.

@After4th

10 жыл бұрын

I always thought because of the results of climate change. The world is becoming colder and the dinosaurs were killed off.

@Joshmanfang

10 жыл бұрын

I don't think this was anti-christ imagery. In fact, lavos is synonymous with the beast

@DoctorLazers

9 жыл бұрын

JayDox That's what I said. Chrono Trigger is NOT using anti-religious themes, what with a Jesus parallel in the lead role. But most other Square RPGs (Final Fantasy most notably) do.

@META_mahn

9 жыл бұрын

Being a christian and knowing the book of Revalations incredibly well (not sure why, maybe cause I am kind of shit) this blew my mind. If anything, what is happening in Chrono Trigger is Judgement day, paralleling the Book of Revelations and this alternate world together.

I believe after Lavos arrives on Earth, the sweet water that you can drink in Ayla's village to replenish your HP/MP is no longer available as well, much like the biblical reference. However, a major dispute of difference is that you can actually finish CT without Chronos being revived.

@kobaliter8692

8 жыл бұрын

Goku create all the universe... wait ...chrono realy looks like him

@robertovizcarrondo1340

8 жыл бұрын

But if you dont revive chrono in the game he'll be revived regardless at the ending of the game with the reunion ending I think

@savagebeast5483

8 жыл бұрын

+kobaliter tf

@munkeemojo

8 жыл бұрын

+kobaliter Well Akira Toriyama did the art work after all.

@dudeistpreist5721

8 жыл бұрын

well in Japan Christianity is popular for decor and story telling, it's popular to wear cross earing as a fashion trend even if they arnt Christian

Goku has been turning into ssjG since 1995

@meowster2103

7 жыл бұрын

welcome to the party?

@manz7860

7 жыл бұрын

those2vgplayers yeah chrono trigger art sucks, uninspired copy/paste trunks and belma

@proksy24

7 жыл бұрын

Manz Spartan IV Ace9 you do know toriyama made the designs

@xcaluhbration

7 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there.

And now I have to break out the SNES emulator

@ghostnike901

8 жыл бұрын

It might be but I can't find it for less than $30 and thats for a used one

@ghostnike901

8 жыл бұрын

good point. I just never thought about doing that since I actually own one

You think the rivers poisoned with Wormwood are bitter, take a look at this comments section!

@chetmanly9496

9 жыл бұрын

Slow class

@alexr6705

9 жыл бұрын

U are correct and that is funny. Ha ha

@at6774

9 жыл бұрын

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@SQGReviewShow

9 жыл бұрын

Kyle Oppenheimer Lol. Glad I gave you 545 lines worth of laughter :) I mean, just look at the comments section. So many people either threatening Matpat or promoting atheism. It's like geez, separation of church and state much? I belive in God and all but unchangeable ideas are not worth fighting over.

@Loveskyflutter

9 жыл бұрын

How many lol?

Chrono Trigger does not retell the Bible, The Bible foretells the coming of Chrono Trigger.

@ashleylau7728

9 жыл бұрын

Lol

@supergoron1

9 жыл бұрын

Mind f**king blown.

@geo7803

9 жыл бұрын

***** he deserves mine as well

@aeoninfinity247

5 жыл бұрын

Because that game is nothing below a blessing.

@jjbailey01

4 жыл бұрын

5 years later, you should still be winning the internet.

"Now, and at the hour of Game Over. Amen." as a Catholic, I'm not even mad, that's funny!

@termsofresistance

7 жыл бұрын

Wow I thought I was the only Catholic left on the interweb. So much hate...

@CroatiaGamingHD

7 жыл бұрын

Realistically,I don't know why.90% of all people have a belief in deity,and somehow on KZread you can't find them anywhere.Most of the comments related to the religion are the hate ones.I guess the fools always stand out.I am pretty much disappointed how many atheists know nothing about world biggest religions,at least for general culture.BTW, Amen is translated to ,,that's how it is'' or something similar.

@b1gb4d_w0lf_5

7 жыл бұрын

Croatia Gaming HD I'm an apatheist but I read Bible because it has great stories(also I'm a former muslim).

@CroatiaGamingHD

7 жыл бұрын

B1gB4d _W0Lf_ Yea,it presents a big part in human history,not only for christians,but also literature and history wise.There are lot of stories which have good point and can help in life.I don't understand hate between two religions,they just believe in what they think is right.I read Kuran and holy books from couple of other religions because I'm interested in what other people believe,and also for learning other cultures.You are one of the small amount of people which don't insult other religions or the principle of religion.Congratulations and have a good life

@Idiot_Lawnmower

7 жыл бұрын

yup

Also in Chrono Cross there's the Sea of Eden which reference the Garden of Eden.

@xxn00bslayerxx91

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t the Sea of Eden from Earthbound?

@themoocow7718

5 ай бұрын

@@xxn00bslayerxx91Apparently it’s from both.

Nah, I'm pretty sure that The Bible is a retelling of Chrono Trigger.

@DragonDDark

9 жыл бұрын

nutella4eva umm, you know that the bible is 2000+ years old right?

@Baalorg

9 жыл бұрын

dragonddarkPSN Dear Sheldon cooper , if you don't understand irony, humor or non serious comment, don't go to youtube comment section. It's a dangerous place for your mind.

@DragonDDark

9 жыл бұрын

Antonin Tron-Lozai The fuck is sheldon cooper? and i thought he was being serious.

@Baalorg

9 жыл бұрын

dragonddarkPSN Some character in a show that don't understand Irony and shit like this.And plz man, how can you think he was serious... like REALLY ? I give up x)

@DragonDDark

9 жыл бұрын

Antonin Tron-Lozai well, you'd be surprised on how people act in the internet.

of course he is, hes a super saiyan god

@brandonthompson8640

8 жыл бұрын

+Misha he does look like a red haired Goku doesnt he

@Excalibur5k

8 жыл бұрын

+Brandon Thompson he kind of looks like teen gohan tbh but of course he does toriyama drew him.

@unsubme2157

8 жыл бұрын

+Brandon Thompson no, red haired goku looks like him. chrono came first by a long shot

@thomaswhite7874

8 жыл бұрын

GODAMMIT I WAS ABOUT TO MAKE THAT JOKE

@rcarfang2

7 жыл бұрын

In DB Xenoverse 2, I created a Chrono character and made him a Saiyain!

Another awesome episode! As a Christian I can especially appreciate this one. By the way, MatPat, great referencing! Game just earned a spot on my "to be played" list!

@Card_Man_Dan

Жыл бұрын

HAVE YOU PLAYED IT YET?

@alexferrrnadas1410

Жыл бұрын

HAVE YOU PLAYED IT YET???

@flyingsquadron

8 ай бұрын

HAVE YOU PLAYED IT YET?!

I came back after years of looking for this yet i'm back.

Wow. The bible sounds so EPIC! I mean just wow, this is just wow.

@pianistofthemosthigh

9 жыл бұрын

There are plenty of great accounts and stories in the bible! Try it! It's a giant love story, filled with adventure and morality. The fall and the redemption! Forgiveness and victory! A great book! :)

@catch3588

9 жыл бұрын

I think I will

@pianistofthemosthigh

9 жыл бұрын

***** All due respect, but to me, I believe in the entire Bible, and take it all literally because I feel that's how it's intended to be read. I don't like to pick and choose. This kind of comment is a bit insulting. He says that he wants to read it so let him read and choose for himself what he wishes to believe. It isn't right to tell him what to, and what not to believe. Let him read and enjoy himself :)

@goldenmrj1

9 жыл бұрын

***** incorrect, that is just your interpretation of it. Many religious people take their own interpretations of what the divine truth is and make it coincide with what the bible says. Or Quran. Or Book of Gilgamesh. Some chistians believe its supposed to all be taken literally, which imo is the most insane view of the bible. Some pick and choose which parts to take figuratively and literally, depending on the individual. So who is telling the TRUTH? We'll never know. Bible is bullshit anyways.

@catch3588

9 жыл бұрын

Jesus was a real guy who used to be a carpenter. It's completely up to you whether or whether not you believe in what he has done...same as Buddhism or Judaism or anything really. Just depends.

Well, couple of interesting facts. Crono feeding soldiers on the bridge may sound pretty unconvincing. But remember - in 2300 A.D. Crono found a colony of people, starving to death, and retrieved for them some seeds to grow. And that was referred to as a miracle. Yep. Another one. In prehistoric times one of Ayla's tribesman can heal you for free using "Sweet Water". But try to visit him after Lavos' fall and he will mention that there is "no more Sweet Water". See the connection to the Bible with this water becoming bitter?

The Theorist Channels have grown so much, it's cool to see the evolution from Original Game Theory to where the Channel(s) are now. Still occasionally come back to this one, being my introduction to GT.

It's been said that religious stories are unconsciously retold throughout time in different forms. The evolutionary purpose being that it increases the reach of the stories. An example is marvel retelling the same archetypical story over and over and people gobble them up.

Damn it still feels like this theory is new, over 2 years old

@unixone7558

8 жыл бұрын

+Lorcan the "normal" guy who plays video games. Being a Christian myself, this theory makes me REALLY want to play ChronoTrigger now.

@Bodge18

8 жыл бұрын

Unix One I'm not Christian but I feel the same

Woah. I'm Christian and I have played this before. I loved this game and a lot of it seemed familiar. I wondered why it was so familiar....

As a christian (and a big fan of CT), I think that your theory was actually quite acurate, and you seems to have a quite good acknoledge of the Bible. Maybe some things doen't seems right, but for the major part, I can agree with this theory. There are too much elements to think it as a simple coïncidence. I wonder if Squaresoft actually use the Bible as a reference to this story :-)

@hiokiryuuhei4714

8 жыл бұрын

Ok thanks for it, i'll try to watch it someday ;-)

@poopiterlikejupiter2706

7 жыл бұрын

most of these are easily explained through english names and tranlastions from japanese...like the jerky. the plot stuff is all vague nonsense from revelations with the sole purpose of being able to connect it to anything. lavos, the queen, the time gates, all of it is deeply explained in the texts of the game. lavos is not anything like any biblical demon. zeal is unlike any biblical queen. lavos is an alien parasite that reproduces asexually with the energy it absorbs from dying planets. during the absorbtion process, it releases energy into the planet as well, altering, or intelligently controlling the evolution of that planet. hence magic exists, and the powers of the red rocks from his shell also exist. when he absorbs enough energy, he releases it. destroying the planet, and spawning baby lavos, which will fly into space when the planet is fully obliterated, continuing the process. this is all facts from dialouge in the game itself...not vague interpretations from ancient glorified poets. talk to the gurus, find the hidden areas of zeal, beat the game with every character in your party, do the forest sidequest, its all there. not the bible.

I guess you could that Jesus was Chrono Cross'd

@sabotabo7476

8 жыл бұрын

*applause*

@labcatdog00000

8 жыл бұрын

Chrono Triggered

@TheBrutalSax

8 жыл бұрын

Chrono... Goddamnit square. why isn't there another game???

@bluesnowdrop1439

7 жыл бұрын

:P

@MALEMization

7 жыл бұрын

The cancelled game: CHRONO RESSURECTED!

To be fair, the three gurus only got their Biblical names in the translation because Ted Woolsey thought that the original Japanese names weren't very interesting.

@rexbrutis4261

10 жыл бұрын

That's the biggest load of heresay I've ever heard.

@ClassicToonFan64

10 жыл бұрын

BLASPHEMY!!! I mean, uh, what an interesting coincidence!

@Drigger95

10 жыл бұрын

LMAO that destroys this theory.

@BowserStrange

10 жыл бұрын

I can't w8 till he comes and take every last of ya'll!!! No not God ya'll maker Satan!...I mean uh, God loves you all and he has a wonderful plan for your life...*cheesy 70s smile*

@ubiquitouspanda4466

10 жыл бұрын

to be fair, ROMANS killed jesus not Jews NO RACIS PLEASE (from duchy haters)

Maybe the writers of the bible time traveled to the future, played CT, and then based the bible on CT?

@SeismicDragon

8 жыл бұрын

Also, I think I finally get the connection between Easter eggs and the resurrection. ChronoJesus was resurrected thanks to the Time Egg. Still working on the rabbit connection though.

@therapeface4153

8 жыл бұрын

+Rob Porritt Or Enix read the Bible and beased it off that.

@therapeface4153

8 жыл бұрын

Martin Cao jk. trolling was obvious

@Jakethemaker37

8 жыл бұрын

but hey, that's just a theory, a religion theory

@Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman

8 жыл бұрын

As a Christian this sounds reasonable

Just finished Chugga's LP.

After re watching this years later I realised something MattPat probably Accidentally made some underground religion

Okay it's official. If I get Chrono Trigger I am naming Crono Jesus.

@Katherine_The_Okay

9 жыл бұрын

ShyFilip omfg, now i have to replay the whole game just to have Chrono named Jesus and the others named after other new testament figures. i'd facepalm, but I'm overdue for a replay :D

@AnalyticalReckoner

9 жыл бұрын

+ShyFilip Totally going to steal this idea! I have to remember where the rename guy is though...

@choppergamer

9 жыл бұрын

+ShyFilip It's Jesus Time!!!!!!!*Darude Sandstorm plays* does anyone get this joke ^

@Nookiezilla

9 жыл бұрын

+Kat K *FacePsalm Hail Crono Jesus!

@Katherine_The_Okay

9 жыл бұрын

+Nookiezilla lmfao. that is so terrible, yet so wonderful :D I am filled with shame that I did not come up with the term "facepsalm" first in this context. well played ;)

the sad thing is youve officially read more bible than some christians

@TEEBOxZIECON1

10 жыл бұрын

wouldn't say it any better.......

@beyondinfiniti54

10 жыл бұрын

As a Christian, I concur

Everything's started from Nu and end's with Nu. You was borm from dust then you'll return to dust.

As a fellow Ohio native, and someone who actually played football against Medina High School, I love the fact you pimp your hometown. Respect.

@freakmonger6927

5 ай бұрын

he retired

10:30 That face in the corner scared the crap out of me.

@123crafter123

10 жыл бұрын

Fuck you, now I can't sleep. I went to look it and it scared me.

@Maplestarknight

10 жыл бұрын

MrMix3 Yesss.... mwahaha

I don't even want to think about how many times I played through this game, Chrono Trigger still stands as my favorite RPG of all time!

This makes so much sense, I'm sad I'm 7 years late for the discussion

i just finished chrono trigger, never heard about this game before until some weeks ago. and i can say that this is the best game i already played. i almost killed lavos without reviving chrono, just when i got to his second form, it appeared a portal and had the chance to get the true ending in my opinion. the music is just awesome and the characters too.

@louigel017

8 жыл бұрын

best music in games

@JamilJslibi

8 жыл бұрын

louigel017 ikr

@wvmcc82

8 жыл бұрын

It's one of the few roleplaying games with great replay value

@cassandraort6614

7 жыл бұрын

William McCormick ikr

But did everyone get drunk and pass out during Jesus's last supper

@shweenerdog

8 жыл бұрын

Some of em

@bryanhadley937

8 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure most of them did until Judas came along

@jamesbrady9790

8 жыл бұрын

+Josh Parr No one would have passed out drunk at Yeshua's pesach seder. But few people want to know Yeshua of Nazareth who walked the Earth.

@TheInsatiableDrBoom

8 жыл бұрын

+James Brady And now... going full circle we realize, much like the game creators Jesus makes a terrible video game protagonist and we'd much rather play a thinly veiled metaphor with mythology amped up and the judgement toned down. See if I were to have Jesus featured in a game I'd pick him as a beer pong partner for all the obvious reasons.

@Epsilonsama

8 жыл бұрын

Everyone except Judas and Jesus ended drunk in the last supper. Jesus admonished his disciples for not being able to handle their drinks when he went to talk with the Father.

"There sat a seven headed beast (ten horns raised from his head), symbolic woman sits on his throne, but he just strips her and leaves her naked. The beast and the harlot." Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Also Scarlet is "Scharlach" in German. "Women in purple and scarlet"? Hmm :)

Very awesome theory, I want to add something to the bit especially about Lavos and Revelation. In the dialogue at the beginning of Lavos' final form, depending on who is in your party, it is heavily suggested that Lavos is in fact the hyperintelligent creator of the in-game universe, and did so not for any great purpose, but only for its own selfish exploitation. This reminds me a lot of the démiurge of Gnostic Christians, a group largely wiped out by the mainstream church in the middle ages but having a small revival today. They believe that the demiurge is a deaf-blind crafter spirit/angel who physically pieced the universe together, and thinks himself Supreme God. The Gnostics identified the demiurge with the Old Testament God. Jesus on the other hand, they believed was the incarnation of the Highest God, not the one who built things and made rules, but the God of Eternal Love, the source of all energy including that of the demiurge. Gnostic Christianity was very dualistic, and believed that the inherently wicked (or just false) material world of the demiurge and the spiritual world of the real God were constantly at odds, just like Lavos and Cronos.

@bigfloyd8888

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, you get it

@GODZILLA2915

2 жыл бұрын

There is another RPG that has the exact inspiration, saying which game is end-game spoilers:

Here's another hint; The writer of Chrono Trigger was also the co-writer on Xenogears, a game deeply influenced by Christian mythology. Not to mention that Xenogears' lead writer and director also worked on Chrono Trigger.

@76rwk

10 жыл бұрын

Mythology? I wouldn't call it Mythology...More like Actuality.

@DarkMProductions

10 жыл бұрын

76rwk Look up the definition of myth, and the Bible, whether you believe in it or not, fits that term.

@josephb.4640

Жыл бұрын

@@DarkMProductions - The way the Bible way written doesn't fit the genre of myth, hence why the authors called it an eyewitness account (see: Luke 1). There's also a TON of archeological evidence for it. I would suggest this scholarly playlist: kzread.info/head/PL1mr9ZTZb3TUqxi2svB3PUHvj-9io2RL5

In the beginning i was like... lolwtf In the end i was like... omglolwtfhow

@QuangTran27

10 жыл бұрын

And then the next morning, I was like....omfgrofllawllulzgtfostfudafuqwtfhow.

@BowserStrange

10 жыл бұрын

QuangTran27 HTP!! My google translated this to I ate cat food...

Your rebuses never get old.

8 years, still my favorite theory. Gonna start praying to video game characters.

So, obviously this video started "debates" on religious beliefs. But for those of you willing to give an honest (and hopefully kind response) I have a question: Is it strange that I believe in evolution and such, but also believe in an afterlife? I wouldn't necessarily say I believe in a God, but I want to think SOMETHING happens to us, or our spiritual selves when we die. But on the other hand, after learning about the big bang and evolution and such, and seeing the evidence that supports those theories, I strongly believe in and support them. I also get sort of uncomfortable when I hear other people mentioning religion. What I mean is if some one says to me "Hey, Jesus loves you" or, "God has taken them up to his kingdom" I get uncomfortable. Because I think something happens when we die, but I also support the science that disproves this. Just thought I would add my thoughts to this. Thanks for commenting in advance.

@ChrisJohnson-gb8xs

9 жыл бұрын

Nothing strange about it. Beliefs and feelings are a personal thing and, in my opinion, forged from our experiences both remembered and not.

@OMGitsTerasu

9 жыл бұрын

man aint nothing wrong with that. we evolved. we die. we ascend on into another life.

@carlossoto4896

9 жыл бұрын

like you said you WANT to believe theres something out there. seems to mel ike you are more afraid of there not being an afterlife than actually believing there is

@kyleanderson1630

9 жыл бұрын

carlos soto I suppose. I mean, if we die, and there is no afterlife. What happens? Do we come back in another body? Do we remember our past lives? Its all so confusing. And causes too many arguments IMO

@ChrisJohnson-gb8xs

9 жыл бұрын

HCG Kyle If it helps at all, I struggled with such thoughts many years ago. Now I simply don't worry about it. Think of it this way - death isn't some abnormal state. It's actually a regular part of the life cycle for everything. Once you really begin to realize and accept that, you see that the fear and uncertainty of it all comes from our built in biological imperatives to survive, nothing more.

Being a man of faith, I'm highly impressed in the waaay too coincidental links you brought forth. Great job!

Now that Matt Pat has retired from game theory I came here to the video that started it all for me and got me into the channel in the first place

I'm just glad that there aren't any athiests raging on this video. It's annoying as heck to see them rage on these types of videos where they either reference or tell about religious things, or at least mention Him or God

@DARE0451

10 жыл бұрын

I'm an atheist, and I have NEVER seen that. Ever. Now, I have seen some debunking of the claims of some idiots (note : by idiots I mean a select few people, not all religious people), but never "YOU MENTIONED GAWD HOWCOULDYOU"? -EDIT Not to even mention that MatPat has admitted to evolution being a fact and in this video he is talking about the stories of the Bible, and not calling it fact.

@sdgundum990

10 жыл бұрын

I'm an atheist, but while I don't believe in a bronze age bed time story I understand that the dudes who wrote Chrono Trigger were still geniuses and what geniuses in history haven't taken liberties with the bible. It's easily the most recognizable reference anyone could make.

@circusmaximus3467

10 жыл бұрын

I'm an atheist. Why would this video make me rage? It said that Chrono Trigger borrows a lot of characters and themes from the bible. Cool! Atheists believe that GODS don't exist...not that STORY BOOKS don't exist. This video could state that Chrono Trigger borrowed a lot from Peter Pan and I would feel the same way. I would feel nothing. PS: Chrono Trigger > Bible :)

@DeathsHood

10 жыл бұрын

Ohyoupokedme As someone who made the transition from irreligious to Atheist mostly because of the internet and the information I found on it, I agree that there are a goodly amount of Atheists essentially 'trolling' religious videos, and it always pisses me off when that happens. I can also say, however, that I've seen a great deal *more* religious people actively search out the videos of Atheists specifically to laugh at and make fun of (or damn to Hell) the Atheist who made the video, or the viewers; Atheist or not. I've been called so many different names by religious people trolling KZread I literally can't recall half of them. Also: 1) Calling the Bible a 'story book' is offensive only to fundamentalists or overly sensitive persons, as the majority of Christians understand that the tales within are not literal, historical accounts of what happened, and 2) No more so than any other religion in the world. Telling people to watch what they say for fear of possibly offending someone is ludicrous, especially since you just said that The Atheist Experience channel is "dedicated to downgrading Christianity. The Atheist Experience, basically throwing all other beliefs on the ground and stomping on them, then making themselves the "Master Religion'" which is not only extremely offensive to *anyone* involved in, or fond of, the show; but it's also patently and absurdly false. The show is based in Texas, which is overwhelmingly Christian, hence the focus therein, and the vast majority of callers are Christians, ergo the focus there. Even a large number of the hosts and co-hosts are ex-Christian, making it their specialty. Don't tell someone to be careful what they say after already insulting not just one person, but an entire demographic based on religious bias. You're free to believe whatever you want, and until such time as you are *forbidden* to do so, you have no right to claim such absurdities as"making themselves the Master Religion".

@DARE0451

10 жыл бұрын

Ohyoupokedme Well first of all, I am a big fan of The Atheist Experience. People call in and they debunk their claims. If people don't want a discussion, they don't have to call. Second, atheism is not a religion. It is a lack thereof. Atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby. Third, I know I have seen a few immature atheists who go to videos and spout nonsense about magical sky daddies, but you and Megasoniczone need to stop acting like they are the majority.

I want to thank you for not showing any bias in this video. I'm a christian and I could easily see how some of those things seem irrational, but I really applaud you on your effort to point out the facts and get out easily, you could easily have taken a side in this video, but you didn't, and that's really cool of you.

Wow bro, this is such an interesting video. I grew up playing Chrono Trigger and I am not speaking lightly when I say that I have always held it in high regards. I’m no stranger to theology and I just wanted to tell you that this is an extremely in-depth theory. I really liked this video

I've re-watched and re-played Chrono Trigger roughly 8 times in 3 years now and I have to tap out and admit defeat. First, I have to say, I thought I was on to something when you mentioned "Betrayed by a friend" and then I realized that when you go to the dinosaur era for the first time and party with the locals, you are in fact, betrayed by Ayla's closest tribemate whom takes your belongings and allows the Reptites to invade/pillage the village. Well done, sir. Your video is, as I'm finally willing to admit.. As flawless as Chrono Trigger itself.

6:15 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Jesus was sentenced to be crucified by the Romans who were concerned about his following, not by a group of Jewish people.

@katiafenton618

10 жыл бұрын

You are right I've read that part of the bible multiple times and they say I'm pretty sure it was romans

@De10re

10 жыл бұрын

Katia Fenton It was the Jewish peoples who were upset that Jesus wasn't a "Warrior" leader that they wanted to 'lead' them out of the repression of the Romans. So that why they incited the Romans to take action against Jesus and you know the rest of the story...

@SonicManEXE

10 жыл бұрын

De10re I did learn what I know through Hebrew School while I was in elementary school, so it doesn't seem out of the ordinary to me that they would take out something that could put Jews in a bad light. Thanks!

@pageclayton6850

10 жыл бұрын

De10re they also were angry with jesus for saying he was "king of the jews"

@legacylegend1931

10 жыл бұрын

Page Clayton jesus was tried by the romans, at the behest of the jews and was found guitly by them, the roman court was a trial by peers much like it is today in america and other contries, we based our system off theirs

pretty well reasoned argument, it's entirely possible that the game was written to reflect certain biblical events, although the wise men were never actually named in the Bible, and we can't be certain for sure how many of them there were, as the Bible doesn't say anything about their numbers either, other than speaking of them in the plural form, which means it had to have been at least two the idea of three wise men most likely came from the three gifts, because back when the idea came about, people probably didn't really give more than one thing as a gift

@theleafeon1

10 жыл бұрын

I caught onto that as well. I don't know where the names came from o.o But most people think its 3 men and the game has 3, so...

@MINECRAFTNINJAHD1

10 жыл бұрын

well ertain versions of the bible say there were three but a lot deny it beause of the jewish religon so

@Haiddon

10 жыл бұрын

those certain version added stuff that wasn't in the original texts that were translated

At least we know matpat believes in God that’s a relief

This was the first video i watched from this channel the memories came flooding back in, Thank you for everything matpat

The problem is, Christ is modeled off a handful of messiahs in other religions. For all we know, Chrono Trigger could have been modeled off Egypt's Book of the Dead, for example. Further to that, the story of a messiah isn't the only allegory contained in Chrono Trigger. Zeal is Atlantis, destroyed by its own zeal (great work on the subtlety, Nintendo!).

@johnrockwell5834

10 жыл бұрын

Demonstrate.

@johnrockwell5834

10 жыл бұрын

John rockwell Search tektontv videos about the comparisons. And come back.

@joshf2218

10 жыл бұрын

Historically dishonest and intellectually bankrupt.

@JimmyHelp

10 жыл бұрын

I don't wanna say this, and I don't have to, but I am: What if messiahs in other religions were based off Jesus?

@Meroth33

10 жыл бұрын

CursedTrinz Actually it's true. If you look at the timeline to other religions compared to Christianity, Christianity was one of the last religions to truly arise. A lot of Christ comes from the other symbols of other religions, and a lot of the devils and HIS symbols come from religions that Christians didn't like.

Purple clothing(capes) in ancient cultures especially Africa (which the Romans and Greeks copied) used that color to represent royalty. Most of the stories in Chrono Trigger come from cultures around the world. Their legends. Ayla's story comes from the movie 65 million B.C. It is mentioned (or hinted at) somewhere in the game that Chrono's father did go off as a soldier to go fight off in some distant war. Marle/Chrono's story is classic royalty sneaking off prince/princess to shrug royal responsibility. Lavo's story is based on the theory that the Earth is pregnant/living. Gaea Theory. The names of the "three wisemen" as you call them, had had their names changed like others in the game to something that "Westerners" would recognize. Saying that. Weren't they all the same guy? It's been about two years since i've played. The Masamune come directly out of Japanese samurai cultural history. Frog is out of English history, the night who failed to save the princess and cannot return until he atones. Chrono Trigger uses a lot of world cultural and mythological history and then modern day theories about what may have happened in prehistory and what may happen in the future if we continue down our path. But i don't recall anything that relates to the bibble.

@darthtokah

10 жыл бұрын

"Africa (which the Romans and Greeks copied)" you sound like an idiot

@MultiAbstrak

10 жыл бұрын

darthtokah go read a history book.

@darthtokah

10 жыл бұрын

Africa didn't create everything.

@FirstNameLastName-oz5ij

4 жыл бұрын

Actually the Masamune is called “Grandleon” in the Japanese version, which is a more appropriate name for the legendary European-based broadsword that Frog wields. I don’t know why the Japanese version has a western name for the sword, but the Western localization changed it to a Japanese name.

Don't mean to poke at errors, but: The Bible retells Chrono Trigger, not vice versa.

man the bible has pretty good lore

There's only one story ever been told. It's still unfolding and is near its end now. You cannot deny, they just retell the same stories, with different details. There's nothing new under the sun.

@chumpchangechamp3643

Жыл бұрын

I have been saying there has only ever been one thing said on Earth. There is only one story told endless ways... I would love to chat with you.

(I am an atheist who just knows about religion) The bible says nothing about how many wise men there were, just that the wise men brought 3 gifts. There could have been 2-200 wise men, but no one would ever know because the bible never gives a specific number of men.

@emmettchan5545

9 жыл бұрын

Well, while this is true, in modern society most people agree on there having been 3.

@Longueuil450

9 жыл бұрын

***** Why do you not respect atheists in general?

@BIKarus

9 жыл бұрын

Olivier Blanchet i believe he is referring to the athiests that only try to argue. i don't like those kinds of Christians either because they are doing the complete opposite of what their bible tells them to do (which is to teach in love and not through hate)

@emmettchan5545

9 жыл бұрын

alexander estornell​ Atheists do not have a bible *facepalm* (Reread comment, noticed mistake. Oops.)

@Longueuil450

9 жыл бұрын

Emmett Chan to that I answer, we do not need a Bible. I believe the dogma taught in the Bible is mind-binding and makes one a little less able to think for himself as a rationnal being. I do not despise religion, quite the contrary, because they are extremely rich of wisdom. I simply believe the Bible's message has been bent far to much through the ages to be representative of its true purpose: Peace.

Me on 2020: this is channel has come a very very long way

Something worth noting (from me as a practicing Catholic): Melchior, Gaspar and Balthazar are traditional names for the 3 wise men. These names are not found in the Bible.

@adamnielson42

4 жыл бұрын

I had been taught that there weren't even necessarily 3 of them.

@Miraihi

4 жыл бұрын

Astonishingly - they indeed bring the gifts to Crono. Masamune from Melchior, Time Egg from Gaspar, and Epoch from Balthazar.

Without even getting 30seconds in to the vid you have made a new religion. XD

@AMillionClues

10 жыл бұрын

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@GreedyBaconGaming

10 жыл бұрын

Redstone King Yeaaaah....he's not REALLY part of the Yogscast.

@spiritwolf963

10 жыл бұрын

a fair warning to you: yogscast is a company and can as such sue you for using the name without there consent... it's been done before

@jayparrish1

10 жыл бұрын

FearNotThisNight "Yogscaster" isn't a licensed name nor is it a name that any of the company's associates use. Funny how one or two letters can make something legal. ALSO... He couldn't be sued for using "Yogscast" anyway. Stop being so dramatic.

@spiritwolf963

10 жыл бұрын

Jay Parrish first: huh guess i wasn't paying to much attention to the actual name, second: I can't say i'm an expert on it, but i have seen Hanna (a.k.a yogscast 2) threaten to sue a guy who was using there name on his account and using it to lure subscribers

The characters of Chrono Trigger were designed by Akira Toriyama based on sketches from the story planner Masato Kato. The development team wanted a diverse cast to reflect the various eras visited by the player; while working on the in-battle actions of the game, they decided to include a playable character that was neither human nor robot. Kato drew sketches for a cast of eight playable characters, comprising a male protagonist, the daughter of a fairy king, a tin robot, a monster man, an inventor girl, a demon king, a primitive girl, and an old sage. Pig and monkey characters were also considered. Six of the initial ideas were reworked by Toriyama, while the old sage character was scrapped and the monster man replaced with Toriyama's own frog man design. In addition to the artwork for the main cast, Toriyama designed the non-playable characters and the monsters of the game, though Hironobu Sakaguchi contributed the idea of the singing robot Gato. The development staff studied all the drawings Toriyama made for the game and tried to be as faithful to his lighthearted style as possible. In particular, humorous names were chosen for several characters. The staff noted that this kind of humor would have been impossible in the Final Fantasy series. Some of the names used in the English localization of the game were INSPIRED by Biblical characters, including Belthasar, Gaspar, Melchior, and Simon Magus. However, Kato did not especially have the Bible in mind when writing the story and was not aware of the names created by the translator Ted Woolsey. Crono’s resurrection, furthermore, does not come from his own power but by the rest of the party members. In combination with the time egg, they don’t so much “resurrect” Crono as “yank Crono out of the exact moment where Lavos causes him to disintegrate out of existence On this point, then, it’s a figurative resurrection rather than (as in the Bible) a literal one. On that note, does Jesus travel through time and space to help the Crusaders in the Crusades? Any of the Crusades? Well, no, not really. In fact, not much of anything religious happened, moreso that the fighting took precedence over genuine expressions of faith So how else can we connect Jesus to Crono? Not in many solid ways, unfortunately. Thus, Crono doesn’t carry a whole pack worth of food, merely a bag. The developers can’t waste their time devoting precious sprite art to food products (much cooler battle animations are better), so they use your brain’s ability to recognize the symbol for food as a way to make it realistic without all that extra work. The life spell and light magic hate to say but all the the protagonists in most JRPGs (I’m thinking Cecil, off the top of my head), and so can other party members (Marle comes to mind off the top of my head). In a similar way, Crono not having a father also doesn’t necessarily connect our spiky-headed friend to Jesus Christ. Again, how many protagonists in JRPGs are either 1. special magic children 2. have no parents 3. have just one parent? A lot. The trial’s fixed, sure, but other media fixate on the idea of fixed trials for innocent men, and it’s not as if Chrono Trigger never borrows from a huge well of well-known action-adventure tropes. The third angel sounded, and a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of waters. 11 The name of the star is called Wormwood; and a third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the waters, because they were made bitter. Chapter 8 describes the judgments of the seventh seal through the seven trumpets being sounded. Some destroy plant life, others destroy all sea life (through a meteor), and the third referenced above causes one third of the world’s water to become undrinkable. So what is Lavos here, and why does he not seem to fit into any of these interpretive frameworks? He’s a positive judgment, or Allah, or evil, or good, or something. All of these references make for an incredibly poor retelling of the Bible story, at the very least! It’s hard to fit Lavos into any of these, because he’s a giant amoral space parasite; “good” or “evil” are only applicable in human terms. The woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a gold cup full of abominations and of the unclean things of her immorality… Schala was not Scarlet Schala doesn’t really fit the profile of the Whore of Babylon And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness; and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns…The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits, 10 and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. 11 The beast which was and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction. 12 The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. 13 These have one purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast a simple glance at the Official Nintendo Player’s Guide fixed the problem. In phase 1 of the Lavos final boss battle, the beast copies 9 bosses for their “temporary reigns”. Just short of the 10 we’d need to make that connection more solid Both of these verses cited are really problematic from default as the Game Theorist emphasizes the words of English translations rather than the original Koine Greek text. What a confusing morass of claims! directly the parallels do not work

@dukelorange748

10 жыл бұрын

there’s no sorts of references at all in 65,000,000 BC.If anything, we can say Japanese pop culture analysis is entirely confusing with a solid basis for what constitutes evidence and what doesn’t. There was no betrayal and no last supper. It's all in your head

@TestSubjectMacHoshi

10 жыл бұрын

....how long did you sit there and type that...?

@techhydra2527

10 жыл бұрын

I KNEW IT!!!!! Akira Toriyama made the dragon ball z series AND THATS WHY THE TWO ANIME( dragon ball z and chrono trigger anime) LOOK SIMILAR I also have a theory that maybe he's similar To a super saiyan god. If watched battle of gods and, I remember them talking about a legend about the first super saiyan god maybe chrono is a god? plz reply if you hv anything to say

@lucienlachance2476

10 жыл бұрын

TL;DR

@dukelorange748

10 жыл бұрын

Lucien LaChance i knew you were lazy I didnt know you had ADD and were blind too or istit that you want to keep your minds as shallow as to make you head think that hes the right one

Lmao I love how baby Pat begins to casually Rickroll us halfway into the video xD

8:01 MatPat: "If that doesn't make you a BELIEVER, I don't know what will." Coincidence? I THINK NOT.

There's so much more to Chrono Trigger than meets the eye. I'm doing my very first play through of it and god is this game incredible. It doesn't just parallel the bible in terms of the flooding and the mythos, and extermination of humanity, but it questions the very nature of time and destiny itself. In a scene during a sidequest they realize that something else is controlling the time gates. This brings about the question, who's really in control of time? Were your characters ever really changing or history? Or was history already written out that way? Lavos was bound to the same changes you make throughout your journey, so what is Lavos really? If its bound to these same chains of time, what greater purpose does your journey really serve if at the end all of these time lines are erased and changed and undone? Chrono Trigger is one of the few games that manages to do something few games do. It becomes bigger than itself. It becomes instead of a question about your journey, to a question of the nature of time and the role it plays and the impact we have on the world and that our actions may actually serve some greater unknown purpose far beyond what any of us comprehend. Is it one giant time paradox? If that's the case, and man was meant to eventually discover time travel, does that mean we're all one giant time paradox as well?

@ZeroX7649

10 жыл бұрын

I think when it comes to Chrono Trigger it did one thing for me I never counted on. I always used to believe in the multiverse theory, and that the grandfather clause was bullshit, but Chrono Trigger pointed out to me that in actuality the three main theories of time travel ALL have to coexist with each other. Otherwise they don't make any sense.

@ZeroX7649

10 жыл бұрын

ChaoticDarkShadow I would say your biggest evidence of this is Lavos' final form, which is almost humanoid in appearance. I only point this out though because the game goes out of its way to point out this trait.

I would like to point something out. As a practicing Catholic, I understand that some people disagree with our beliefs, and as such know little about it. I would like to just say that when you address Christ's divine powers as "magical" you are blaspheming. You are, of course, not responsible for this sin, as you are acquitted due to your ignorance, but "magic" is a satanic power used to lure people into performing acts of evil. The miracles that Christ performed throughout His life are of divine nature, and as such need no illusion, or trickery, as is involved in magic. I would finally like to say that I realize that a vast majority of those reading this comment are going to be Atheist, Agnostic, Muslim, Jewish or some other faith. I respect that you have different beliefs than me, and I will not insult your religion, or lack thereof, so please do not insult mine.

@cosmicasian

10 жыл бұрын

it's a.... we'll thought out comment..... on youtube....... OMFG!!!!!!!1111!!!!!1!!!!! ITS THE END OF THE WORLD RUN 4 YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!1111

@kuzunohaxiv7912

9 жыл бұрын

No! The dude is magical.... End of the story and I'm Christian as hell

@ConvexFever5

9 жыл бұрын

naim romero That, again, is fully dependent on what type of Christianity you practice. I'm not going to sit here and pretend to know everything about all 30,000 branches of Christianity, but in Roman Catholicism, magic is evil.

@ConvexFever5

9 жыл бұрын

damon pio I'm glad you think my comment was well thought out.

Thanks and goodbye, MatPat.

The Book of Revelations "Wormwood" reference gives me serious Name of the Star feels XD

We should make a gaming bible.

@rubengomez4985

10 жыл бұрын

and at the end of our prayers we should replace Amen with 8Bit

@Psych5051

10 жыл бұрын

Ruben Gomez Now we're thinking! Come on guys!

@luksports555

10 жыл бұрын

Psych of Minecraftia! But who would be the God of Gaming?

@Psych5051

10 жыл бұрын

Thee SpongeSir SophisticatedPants The most popular characters in gaming. Mario, Sonic, Pikachu, anymore ideas?

@sweeney1323

10 жыл бұрын

I'm fine with Mario being the G O single D.

this is probably one of his most interesting and one of my favorites episodes.

Tribulation is 7 years. I think we can all say Chrono Trigger story took some time. More than we could interpret just playing it. And Matt, did you see the scriptures in our Bible? It's legit going down THIS APRIL... Love yall.

maybe the bible was written after chrono trigger

@sabotabo7476

8 жыл бұрын

The Order knows.

@jxmp8625

8 жыл бұрын

Do not talk about Christ like that

@Salvador-312

8 жыл бұрын

Your an idiot

@jedmunro6524

7 жыл бұрын

jmp coolcuber give me one scientific peice of proof that your god exists

@jxmp8625

7 жыл бұрын

I have faith

Here's my question: Why is Christianity hated on so much but other religions don't get any hate? I'm not trying to incite a big argument here, because I'm just wondering.

@GlobalWarmingSkeptic

10 жыл бұрын

***** Actually, there is a lot more hatred toward Christianity than toward Islam. I don't think you truly understand how many Christians are murdered around the world for their religious views alone. The death toll is in the tens of millions in the last century alone.

@dondingleberries4716

10 жыл бұрын

Well I was talking about the Internet, because I've actually never seen that form of hate towards Islam here.

@jaredlong2335

10 жыл бұрын

Don Dingleberries Language. It's because the vast majority of Western Christians speak English, and the vast majority of people who don't like religion also speak English. The Arabic speaking world is almost entirely Muslim and so everyone who speaks Arabic is generally supportive of Islam. There's no point bashing on someone when they have no idea what you're saying, so it just doesn't happen very much.

@Anghellik9

10 жыл бұрын

Don Dingleberries I agree with what Jared Long said, but I would also add that most English speakers have far more familiarity with Christianity than they do with Islam. I'd feel pretty safe in assuming that more people in this comments section are familiar with Jesus turning water into wine than they would by with the night journey of Muhammad.

@fredshewmake7560

10 жыл бұрын

Not only what these guys said, but Jesus said repeatedly in the gospels that those who follow him will be persecuted and hated by many, but comforted because the world hated me also. Although sometimes its some Christians bring it on themselves for being mean and obnoxious and hypocritical to people. I as a follower of Christ am not in your face about it or smack you over the head with a Bible. If only more could be of that type.

Are the dudes responsible for DBZ responsible for Crono? The animation looks exactly alike.

@vegapo1

10 жыл бұрын

yup, they are

@osamazafar6264

10 жыл бұрын

actually yes,the creator of DBZ did the artwork for crono trigger.

@shadowdramon01

10 жыл бұрын

Akira Toriyama was the games lead artist and character designer and a lot of characters looks just like DB/DBZ characters.

@TheNewEmphinix

10 жыл бұрын

***** Shoot! I was about to say that. Oh well! Maybe next time.

@PrimeGamator

10 жыл бұрын

finally i get that question answered, it's been bugging me since the first time i played the game and couldn't find the pattern, thanks

Can we get a continuation? I love the bliblical connections you make in this one. Would love some more!

In the book of revalations there are two beasts mentioned. One that comes from the abyss that is all powerful and one that comes from the earth that encourages praise of the first beast. Lavos raises from the ocean and Is described by Magus as being all powerful and Queen Zeal, the second beast, encourages praise for the Lavos because he is the source of their immortality. Lavos and Zeal I believe are the symbolic beasts of of Chrono Trigger

chrono is special because he's a sayan/saian. sayans could be portraid as gods. and he was never mentioned beause he went back home. just some food for thought.

I'm sure this is has been said, but...Just to be sure, Chrono doesn't revive, they merely replaced him before lavos kills him with a doll to maintain space-time continuing or some sh*t :P

@SoraJustSora

10 жыл бұрын

Don't you know that's how Jesus did it?! Come on now! :3 lmao

@abonynge

10 жыл бұрын

Blake Bodin It was Singed the whole time.

It's coincidental. Back in the September 13th 2002 issue of Gamepro, there was an interview with head writer Masato Kato asking about the biblical connections. It turns out the writers were not thinking of the bible, and the references from it were fairly random; possibly suggestions from Tanaka and Takahashi, Xenogears team members who worked on the game who had much larger interests in religion. A lot of the references are not specific to the bible either, but in a wide variety of cultures and stories.

@Ralkila

7 жыл бұрын

sectarians will never hear to the actual fact, they prefer to ignore and remain mindless. although nice info, Xenogears was a good game for smart people.

@jekblom123

7 жыл бұрын

I don't know, it all seems REALLY convenient.

@Kentama

7 жыл бұрын

Japanese creators in interviews are often purposefully vague and even outright lie in order to save face for their company and avoid controversy. If Kato did use Christianity as a base for the story, you would probably never know unless you were a close family member.

"One Hour" One of the last chapters is called "The Fated Hour"

This falls back to my statement on Final Fantasy hating religion. Squenix just really likes to use religious elements because they conjure the most emotion. Yup

@megamanpwn3dmario

10 жыл бұрын

you know he did a video about that too right? you probably did, but meh.