I know I'm years late to the party here, but still wanted to put my thoughts out there.

@carastone3473

5 ай бұрын

I was just going to say that this show ended FIVE years ago and, at SOME point, we’re gonna have to stop whining about hating the way D&D ended it. It is what it is….

@ExploringFiction

5 ай бұрын

@@carastone3473 True. This is all just new to me as I only watched the show last year.

@carastone3473

5 ай бұрын

@@ExploringFiction - Have you read the books?

@ExploringFiction

5 ай бұрын

@@carastone3473 Yes, I love the books. They've been the main focus of my channel lately

I feel like In the show it was Arya who was more distrustful of Sansa than the other way around. Arya went on a whole monologue about how Sansa sucks because she served the Lannisters even though that’s exactly what Arya did at Harrenhall with Tywin. Arya was also acting really weird and sinister. From the perspective of the audience and Sansa, it looked like Arya was planning to kill her sister. I feel like the contrived tension between them in Season 7 does more damage to the character of Arya than Sansa. I feel like the issue with Sansa is that they do the trope of “Soft woman goes through is trauma and that made her lose all of her compassion and empathy to become a badass or girl boss”.

@markanthony1004

5 ай бұрын

Had Arya actually convinced herself that Sansa with Littlefinger was a threat and actually tried to take her out would’ve been a better plot line than what we got

How did grey worm get his way? Missandei got beheaded in front of him and the queen he swore his life to died. I feel like the most out of character thing they do with grey worm, is have him not kill Jon Snow, the guy who killed his queen. Grey worm committing mass murder on a foreign city because the queen who saved him from slavery is doing it, makes sense. The Lannister army had a notoriously brutal sack on kings landing and they were from Westeros. Danny’s unsullied and Dothraki blood-riders not killing Jon Snow immediately is what kind of ruins them.

Isn't the entire point of the Grey Worm love story that he's capable of love, desire, and sex despite what his slave holders did to him. Sex scene was meant to be the two of them taking ownership of the bodiesthat had previously been property of others. I thought that aspect was cool. Agree on the Dany stuff with GW though.

One thing I find strange is that most people don’t seem to realize the writing took a nosedive as early as season 5. the contrast in quality between the near-perfect 4th season and S5 is huuge. This is where the writing started becoming boring, predictable and worst of all: wrapping up story arcs in a very rushed way just for the sake of it

@K.C-2049

5 ай бұрын

I noped out of GoT in season 3 (it was the weird shoehorned sexual violence for me) and I happened to watch an episode in I think season 6 and I was like "wtf is this?" I watched season 8 with a group for the lolz and as an English lit nerd I was personally offended by how bad it was lol

@ExploringFiction

5 ай бұрын

There are individual episodes I like from Seasons 5 and 6, but overall I would tend to agree

"Why would there possibly be a love story involving a eunuch soldier trained to feel nothing since he was a boy?" Really? My dude, that is a KILLER concept for a story. A man "incapable of love" in every way, finding it in spite of everything? That's great! That's a headliner story, and it's really wasted in story about "What if the War of the Roses had dragons?"

Deanerys Targaryen going mad and burning kings landing is not compelling and will propably not happen in the books(Cercei Lannister or Jon Connington are way way more likely to do it)

@ethanhandel1001

5 ай бұрын

I disagree that she won't go mad and burn King's Landing but I think it will be better done. More likely to be collateral damage from wildfire or potentially just the killing of thousands that Cersei uses as human shields in the Red Keep

@OverkillNu

5 ай бұрын

I think Book Euron might do it if he successfully bound a dragon under his influence with the “dragonbinder” horn

Arya and Sanza, were not truly suspicious of each other. They figured out the ploy of Little Finger. Sanza wasn't so much jealous, she had become power hungry. She even said it just prior to executing Little Finger, when she told him she had kearned what he was teaching all toi well. So like Little Finger she became just about power. I will agree that season 8 was terrible, yes Jon Snow was to be a great hero, a true leader, someone willing to give everything to protect his people. They should have let Jon kill Gray worn. So that everything that was Danny's was dead or gone from the 7 kingdoms. Taking the ubsullied to the wall to defend the wall, since fighting was the only thing they knew. Bran should have changed the rules that those at the wall followed. Season 8 was a quick finish

As a man who’s read the books (that are out so far) I have to say that watching this season was by far the most infuriating and depressing experience I have had with the story of a song of ice and fire. It wasn’t just an absolute disgrace to television in general, it completely ruined a brilliant story that has been masterfully crafted since it popped into GRRM’s head. Speaking of George tho, how many other people reading this are waiting for TWOW??🤣🤣

Mybe DnD gave the Night king kill to Arya since they expected a Disney deal afterwards and wanted to appease Disney executives by putting in more girlboss power; ofc it didnt work and thank god they lost that deal. Imagine these two fools were allowed to continue making millions after their butchery of this great material..

Let's not forget George was in blatant breach of his contract by not publishing WoW by the time HBO finished filming season 4 so he has just as much blame as D&D who wrote shlock because they had nothing to go on and had nothing to go on because George said fuck a contract I'll never have to publish anything in the main GoT story again.

If one thinks about how Sansa wanting to be a separate kingdom made more sense than the rest of the other decisions made at meeting of the other great houses. The strategy behind Arya killing kinda makes sense. The night kings focus would be on Jon , Bran and Danny not a little girl. Gray Worm and Mesandea’s relationship was beautiful, proving intimacy is more than the physical aspect of love. As for him getting his way concerning Jon he didn’t get his way. He wanted Jon dead. I agree D&D got lazy and greedy.

Worst crime in TV history? …Have you seen CopRock? Bing it

The one event in pop culture that compares to GoT Season 8 was The Phantom Menace. Season 8 is worse than what happened to Star Wars, but for the expectations vs what we got at the time, it was really similar.

I agree with you the Jaime's character was assassinated, but sleeping with Brienne was part of that assassination. There is no world in which I believe Jaime Lannister would develop romantic feelings towards her. Respect and even platonic/familial love absolutely, but not romantic. And I think it would be mutual from Brienne's side. The two of them having a one night stand was a part of each of their characters being ruined by the end (though Jamie far worse than Brienne). Edit: I'll leave this up because I don't believe in just erasing evidence of prior mistakes. But, I went back and watched.. there are more signs than I remembered so point conceded. This take was my bad.

@plasmiusphantom

5 ай бұрын

I definitely disagree about the romance. It feels inevitable, especially in the books. Jamie is attracted to Brienne, and it confuses him. He covers it up with some insults, but he even has to hide his surprise boner in the bath they have together, and that’s before he dreamed of her.

@25Ghosts

5 ай бұрын

Before I read the books I thought that Jamie’s arc was ruined in the books because he went back with Cersei. I’m about 1/4th into A Storm of Swords and I’m realizing… Jamie was never going to choose anyone but Cersei. Jamie could have had ANY girl he ever wanted. But he chooses to only ever be with Cersei, never had sex with any one else. Since it’s so deep seeded in Jamie it makes sense for him to want to get back to Cersei. I’m very curious how they handle that story line in the books

@plasmiusphantom

5 ай бұрын

@@25Ghosts Ohh keep going lol

@plasmiusphantom

5 ай бұрын

No spoilers... but yeah. You might change that stance after A Feast for Crows

@aminaa5824

5 ай бұрын

…I can’t believe there are people who think Jaime and brienne aren’t a romantic relationship, they are literally so in love, Idk if you’ve read the books but it’s made very clear in both books and show so, grrm has literally talked about them as “beauty and the beast” and he refers to them in a romantic sense every time he’s asked about them, even told us that the bath scene was inspired by the story of how he met his wife

Let’s not pretend that seasons 6 and 7 were some great high standard episodes either. Hell season 5 at best was a 6/10 season. That’s what happens when you outpace the source material. They could’ve gone 10 Great seasons and introduced new plots and intrigue. HBO was happy to do just that especially considering they knew they’d have HBO Max out sooner than the series ended but idk. And yes I’m a book reader since 2002 or 2003 can’t remember. Yes it graded on me how bad they screwed things up

@ExploringFiction

5 ай бұрын

I don't completely disagree. After season 4, most seasons had a few great episodes that made everyone forget about the mediocre ones. Definitely happened to me

My question to them is why not milk the franchise?

@ExploringFiction

5 ай бұрын

Seems like it's happening to every other franchise that still has any worth left...

@fletcherw32

5 ай бұрын

I’m sorry, what do you think House of the Dragon is my man? It’s quite literally the plot of the first four ASOIAF Books, just with the houses swapped about. George even compiled it in a frenzy before Winds of Winter so they could make an entirely new show, involving the same plot.

It was almost 5 years ago let it go

@ExploringFiction

5 ай бұрын

Again, as I noted in my pinned comment, I'm well aware I am late to the party here. Just wanted to put my thoughts out there in video format.

@drbrunch

5 ай бұрын

Never. The North Remembers.

Ngl never would have read the books if yall show watchers hadn’t had the rug pulled on you. I laughed. And laughed. And laughed. Everyone had tried to get me to watch it for years and I was all “nah, I’m cool” so when the ending failed I had no context to laugh at this monstrosity of television. So I started looking up context lore videos and then it spiraled out of control when I found the order of the greenhand and I had to read it for myself 😅 ngl tho I still like to have a chuckle about season 8 from time to time 😂