Well, she wasn’t lying, she broke the wheel and the cart and the horse and the driver and the driver’s family and anyone else in the immediate vicinity

@amanshanker359

Жыл бұрын

you made me laugh uncontrollably for 10 mins damn straight

@PhongTran-km1mx

Жыл бұрын

She even targeted the fucking wheelmaker and their family, pets and neighborhood

@Not-Ap

Жыл бұрын

She didn't break anything. Slavers Bay returned to it's old ways. The slave holding free cities remained the slave holding free cities. Westeros got a God king who spies on everyone that no one choose. The lords kept all there power and influence. Political arranged marriages continued to be a thing. Serfs remained serfs. Just because one city was sacked and destroyed doesn't mean the whole system collapses. It would have if she were allowed to break the wheel at the cost of those who refused to let go of unjust power, but like the high sparrow, nobody willing would subject themselves to that kind of justice. The small folk who she was really fighting for remained small because the person flighting for them was not strong or smart enough to help them.

@andrewlevin6331

Жыл бұрын

@@Not-Ap I think you’re missing the joke here.

@Not-Ap

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewlevin6331 I got it but I just think her story is so sad in the book and show. She ultimately broke under the weight of her own ideals and people around were all to happy too let it happen because they didn't like implications of her beliefs. Had she had better advisors like Olenna or Randal Tarly if he wasn't so bigoted she could be a great ruler. To many people were happy to see her fail though because of what her success would mean for them personally.

You know it's really a shame that they never did any more seasons after 5, I would've liked to know how the story ended

@123456789danz

Жыл бұрын

Is this a joke?

@RedViper9

Жыл бұрын

@@123456789danz Obviously mate, I was going to insult you but im trying to change and be a better person. It was an obvious joke :) Good day

@brettsnyder5858

Жыл бұрын

lolololololol

@Go-Go-Guts

Жыл бұрын

Season 5 ruined the story with the butchering of the Dorne plot line, of Stannis's plotline, of Arya's plotline, Tyrion, Varys, and Littlefinger going from the most intelligent characters in the show to the exact opposite. If you think all of that is acceptable then you deserved to get screwed over with a lackluster ending

@jfjvmdvbdcndkj

Жыл бұрын

Bruh, season 6 was way better than season 5. Battle of the Bastards alone beats season 5

When dany said "I'm going to break the wheel." I was expecting to see Tyrion's reaction to it, whether he believes she is capable of doing it or not. That might have added more to the scene. But for now she is just words, I guess. :D

@Lexyvil

9 жыл бұрын

artallie I know :( Missed opportunity right there, eh?

@phantasia5179

9 жыл бұрын

artallie oh yaeh absolutly, I wish they had shown us this. It was a great scene, great speech and seeing Tyrion's reaction would had been the best part.

@Lexyvil

9 жыл бұрын

***** Oo don't woorie, I'm not talkin' aboot anytin'.eh. Only aboot how great Jorah Mormont is and how unfortunate of a character he ended up bein'. He needs and deserves a beer for all that's been happenin' to him lately yah knoh?

@CheerfullyCynical829

Жыл бұрын

"Breaking the wheel" with dragonfire is fun and exciting. REBUILDING a new prosperous world after that is extremely difficult, tedious, exhausting, boring, un-exciting, and takes decades. That's what she never understood. She was a conqueror, not a governor. Tywin and Tyrion were governors.........and Tywin was a conqueror too.

@meengla

Ай бұрын

@almierae4914: Your comment was made 8 years ago!! Much happened in that series since then. Perhaps you'd post a new one here based on how the series ended. It's always fascinating to read Before and After or Hindsight 2020 like contexts. BTW, not saying you didn't make a good comment.

Tyrion finally got his wine!

@MsLm97

9 жыл бұрын

Noel Aranda cheers to that ;P

@viking-goblin

9 жыл бұрын

Noel Aranda and then she took it from him, lol

@MattiK2609

3 ай бұрын

Alcohol withdrawal treatment - how to do it the Targaryen way 😂

The sadness in Tyrions tone and eyes when he here's she won't kill him is the reason I love the Dinklages performance, a complex role done brillantly. Tyrion has nothing left to live for and I think if she had decided to kill him he would've welcomed it to some degree.

@Ariana-wv4pf

15 күн бұрын

Yeah, he's depressed. He loved his family. They hated him all but one (Jaime). And he loved Cersei and Tywin.

I really loved the back and forth of this conversation, it was great to see the two minds at work together. I don't know where they're going to go with it though because obviously this doesn't happen in the books.

@MrSaintSoulja

9 жыл бұрын

EggplantsGalore this is pretty much where the books were going though, wouldnt be surprised if tyrion becomes an adviser to dany before she goes to the seven kingdoms. Hes outside mereen with the second sons from what i remember

@EggplantsGalore

9 жыл бұрын

SaintSoulja yeah, do you think they'll do "for the watch" at the end of this season?

@MrSaintSoulja

9 жыл бұрын

i cant tell if im looking forward to it or not but im really sure they will

@trueloner1492

9 жыл бұрын

EggplantsGalore It hasn't happened in the books...yet. Tyrion was on his way to Dany in the last book and no doubt he'll get there in the next book. He's meant to. This is going down exactly how it's supposed to. GoT just sped things up a bit.

@Stakhanovites

9 жыл бұрын

SaintSoulja He practically convinces the second sons to turn their coats back to Daenerys in lieu of advising Daenarys to entertain the idea of claiming his "birthright"/get revenge on his family/pay his debts to the second sons.

Best episode of this season, and possibly the best finale of the series

@jonsnow8766

9 жыл бұрын

Its not the finale .....

@GreatConman

9 жыл бұрын

Jon snow I meant episode end

@jonsnow8766

9 жыл бұрын

Agree finally we seen the white walkers Fight & it was simply amazing :)

@GreatConman

9 жыл бұрын

Jon snow So glad they finally confirmed the Valyrian steel rumours too :)

@jonsnow8766

9 жыл бұрын

Yes ive never read the books so i honestly thought jon snow was going to die there was like 10000 of Them can't wait to see what happens next sunday !!!

“I am going to break the wheel” *ends up being another spoke, just like every other Targaryen given power*

@shayankhan8391

4 ай бұрын

There were some great Targaryen kings too. They just ruined the show and her character

@chaosapiant

4 ай бұрын

@@shayankhan8391 Not really. Her character's trajectory as a tyrant was always in the subtext, especially as she moved through Slaver's Bay, but the about-face she did was handled very poorly. There should've been more episodes so that the turn she made had an actual cause without seeming arbitrary.

@hellatze

3 ай бұрын

that ending not canon

Tyrion gave her the best piece of advice - do not seek the Iron throne, in Essos she had an entire empire and had the respect of others and could have been the greatest ruler but the pull was too strong.

@DrownedInExile

Жыл бұрын

If she'd stayed in Essos, the White Walkers would have destroyed Westeros. ...and I'm not sure that's a bad thing. All 3 Dragons would still be alive. Plus their rebirth might mean the Long Winter wouldn't come. Can White Walkers swim across the Narrow Sea? No? Then let them have Westeros, it's hardly the center of the universe.

@swigittyswooty6908

Жыл бұрын

@@DrownedInExile white walker is intelligent creature, is it impossible for them to sail with a boat across the sea?

@DrownedInExile

Жыл бұрын

@@swigittyswooty6908 Possible. Better question, can the WW's survive in the warmer climate of Essos? With the return of the Dragons, the Winter might be limited to Westeros. So Westeros might become like Northrend in World of Warcraft. A desolate ruined frozen wasteland ruled by the undead. Abandon all hope, all ye who enter. But in reverse, any Walkers who try to cross the sea, will quickly meet a fiery end. Dracarys!

@protectwhatisours6895

11 ай бұрын

@@DrownedInExilethey wouldn’t have, they needed a dragon to break the walls magic and tear it down.

@mappingshaman5280

11 ай бұрын

​@@protectwhatisours6895the walls magic was already broken when bran passed south of it, and as for getting passed it physically, they had many giants and probably mammoths and could have broken a gate. They could have also climbed on top of eachother like they did in the long night and world war z. The point is, the wall could not hold. I think the night king was a greenseer and saw that eventually he would get a dragon and so decided to wait north of the wall.

NO WINE ANYMORE! NO WINE FOR YOU TYRION!

@MsLm97

9 жыл бұрын

Tortóon De Magge a predominantly sober Tyrion...................that'll be interesting to watch

@MsxXtinaXx95

9 жыл бұрын

Tortóon De Magge And for Cersei!!!

All they need is Jon Snow and the three headed dragon will be complete

@fraustofrausto9480

9 жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@HotShame0

9 жыл бұрын

Manuel Gamer The Dwarf + Mother of Dragons + The Knight (Jorah) + The Bastard + The Young Assassin = best combo

@Mofriese

9 жыл бұрын

Hot Shame sounds like a rpg / dnd group.

@HotShame0

9 жыл бұрын

Arya Stark ofcourse

@SmearedBlackInk2003

9 жыл бұрын

Manuel Gamer "The dragon has three heads"

Back when characters had dialogue and logical discussions .

One of the best scenes in one of the best episode. Tyrion is testing Dany as much as she is testing him. I hated how the books dragged out their possible meeting too far

@lurrielee2755

Жыл бұрын

Your issue was the books dragging things out, well thank goodness they addressed that in seasons 7 and 8.

@ianvera4299

Жыл бұрын

@@lurrielee2755 Thank goodness S7&8 did what the books could not, finish on time.

@ianvera4299

9 ай бұрын

@@nimnio "lol" ha

@phillipivey4833

8 ай бұрын

@@ianvera4299 IF you like terrible storytelling sure.

@11hunter22

7 ай бұрын

@@ianvera4299 finish? More like throwing a former masterpiece into the dirt.

Dany: "You're going to advise me...while you can still talk in complete sentences." Tyrion: "Advise you on what?" Not a complete sentence, well played Tyrion

Still, one of my favorites scenes. In fact, most of Daenerys & Tyrion's scenes are very memorable for me! I loved every one of them!

best episode of the series, Jon Snow is azor ahai confirmed. series is spoiling books. Tyrion meets Dany. Damn. Lets go to the Summer Isles my friends

@jtiss_1023

9 жыл бұрын

jo el Not really spoiling, the Jon and Night King staring intimately at each other could mean anything really. But for sure best episode

@supershinigami1

9 жыл бұрын

jo el spoiling books? More like ruining them

@SyllyNL

9 жыл бұрын

jo el how do you conclude jon is azor ahai? That he killed the WW with his sword? Could just have been Valyrian Steel

@Jomshof88

9 жыл бұрын

the teasing both in books and series is huge, c'mon man

@jtiss_1023

9 жыл бұрын

jo el idk not seeign it being too huge, nothing major has been spoiled. everyone suspected jons specialness, other than that no massive spoilers. I mean heaps has changed from the books but you cant really call that a spoiler.

its interesting that D&D practically hinted that Tyrion was actually testing Dany's resolve about going to Westeros in the last part of this conversation. according to them, Tyrion has his own plans and goals that he wants to accomplish in Westeros and this was a chance for him to see that he and Dany agree on views of Westeros..i feel like this whole conversation was both Dany and Tyrion testing each other out

@NtoTheM

Жыл бұрын

Fuck D&D. Speaking as someone 7 years later.

@hellatze

3 ай бұрын

D&D hint nothing.

@yevgeniyaleshchenko849

15 күн бұрын

@@NtoTheM Stop pouting, speaking 2 years later

@yevgeniyaleshchenko849

15 күн бұрын

....or maybe he told her the truth - stay where you are, avoid bloodshed, enjoy the rule where you're loved instead of becoming the invader.

@NtoTheM

15 күн бұрын

@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 Shut your trap, mo ron. The fact you jump in to defend these 2 incompetent degenerates is telling of what you are.

Tyrion: "We're speaking metaphorically here, Your Grace. Stopping it and breaking it are the same thing."

@hunterwhitley8972

9 жыл бұрын

Stopping it allows an opportunity for it to start again, just like how slavery slowly comes back. Breaking it allows no further option for it to start again and more importantly allows her to build anew.

@FoxxxyLadyy

9 жыл бұрын

SpydeyDan Stop th wheel when one family is on top and you crush the others beneath (or some at sides if u want to get geometrically correct, which might mean to ally with the top family). Break the wheel so you change this system and build anew.

@FoxxxyLadyy

9 жыл бұрын

***** Yes that is what this speech smells like and I'm curious to see where it will go. We went through the same steps; did we not? Did we not gain our freedoms and democracy against monarchy, or equal rights in society against other groups after wars, civil uprisings and chaos? Was it also not considered as just a dream, a fantasy? But it got real did it not? I just can't believe how some people are such big fans of kings and monarchy when been born into free societies, like they only play along with the game of thrones and can't think big.

@FoxxxyLadyy

9 жыл бұрын

***** You got me a bit wrong there (unless I am getting you wrong now). I did not mean we went through the same by letting one person change our destinies. There is the will, perhaps unspoken of due to the fear of those in power, and usually some people take a leading role to make that will come true. Once people see that they are not alone and there are others who back them up, they too start showing their will and it turns into a mass resistance. Martin Luther King, Jr said "I have a dream" and that dream came true. You might say now "of course all people, regardless of their colours, are equal. But if you said this at his time many people would also say this was a fantasy. Like him or not, he inspired masses. The famous French Revolution was a huge step against monarchy, even though certain outcomes might be debated nobody can deny the contributions it made to modern Europe. And Jean-Jacques Rousseau is probably the name that many remember to be the most influential on the revolution. I think you take the matter literal. Dany is a queen so you compare her to other kings in history, but I see her as an influential leader to start a civil uprising against inequalities. Things can go in a different direction of course, but this is what I am hoping to see since nobody else in GoT gave more shits to commoners than she did.

@FoxxxyLadyy

9 жыл бұрын

Well ok, Robb and Stannis are good men and they certainly care for their people in their way. Robb was my favourite until he died. He wasn't a power lusty person and I had my other reasons to like him too :) I did not want to undermine them. However I think you would agree that their stories don't make an arc with their care for common people. If Dany, after getting her army in Astapor, left Essos then I wouldn't say what I said. But remember she said she had 200 000 reasons to take Yunkai, referring to the number of slaves in the city. She did not know she would get a bonus with the Second Sons, her motivation was to help the slaves. With the same reasons she went to and stayed in Meereen. I was pissed off to see she would stay there and not go play the game of thrones in Westeros, but I came to realize that her decision was a hard one and even a brave one in my eyes. Other characters might feel a lot of things, but we are limited to what we read/watch and can only base our opinions on what we hear about them. Other than that I am glad we now understand each other better.

The game of thrones crew surely likes this "im going to break the wheel" line..

@MsLm97

9 жыл бұрын

bakfiets imam the editors sure do lol

The Night's King has already started "breaking the wheel"...

Best episode so far this season!

What an unbelievable episode.. IMO this is the best thing TV has ever and will ever produce for the following reasons: 1) The great script writing for this episode .. the atmosphere they created by this outrageously brilliant script. 2) The unreachable class of directing and the cinematography is absolutely outstanding and probably one of the best things I have ever witnessed in the whole Cinema/TV thing. 3) The stunningly immense acting from Peter Dinklage, Lena Headey, Kit Harington and of course Iain Glen who is the most underrated actor of the lot and IMO at least deserves an Emmy or a Golden Globe so does the other Actors I had mentioned. 

@ThomasM936

9 жыл бұрын

Peter Dinklage and Lena are Emmy winners

@IneshKhanal

2 жыл бұрын

Sigh

@ErimlRGG

8 ай бұрын

And now basically no one talks about this series because they screwed it so hard it tainted the good seasons. How sad

@ShivanshSharma-yz9bk

2 ай бұрын

@@ErimlRGG Stop lying Everyone talks about it HOTD is most anticipated show .

I loved this scene. All I can say is...Hell Yes! :D Tyrion is right where he needs to be and Dany has one of the best minds on her side now. Now all that needs to happen to make this absolutely perfect is for Varys to show up as well. :D And I'm hoping he will, very soon.

@sarimanne6204

Жыл бұрын

This did not age well lol

@sebastienmccarthy1483

Жыл бұрын

Oh woof. This comment hurts

@ashdude3058

Жыл бұрын

Oh sweet summer child

They NAILED it. Awesome meeting, awesome conversations.

What about the Martells, Tyrion?

@basboosa2812

9 жыл бұрын

Raphael Isnard he purposely left them out because hes trying to test Dany's resolve to go to Westeros.

@insaneapples1559

9 жыл бұрын

Raphael Isnard The Dornish are unique out of any of the other kingdoms and never swore fealty to any king after Robert's rebellion. Hence why they still use titles such as "Prince". They are part of the 7 kingdoms and swore to declare no king of their own, but were more of an alliance with the Targaryens rather then subjects to the Iron Throne. However through the power of marriage the Targaryens and Martells became closer then any other houses and the fact they weren't mentioned in this scene is probably leaving room for a surprise later on...

@Nuclearcx

9 жыл бұрын

basboosa And more importantly her knowledge about the basic political landscape of a country she claims to be the Rightful Ruler of. Tyrion is playing a game of "two truths and a lie" almost all through the conversation anyway, and Dany is falling right into his traps. I doubt his advice will benefit Daenerys at all. Tyrion is too much of a playah

@yuyuteama

9 жыл бұрын

Raphael Isnard I thought that too! They would totally back Danny.

@Gumden

9 жыл бұрын

insaneapples you're wrong. You know nothing

God, I loved this scene. It was everything I wanted it to be. Dany and Tyrion are going to be really fun to watch.

@theironknight2544

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this was my second favorite scene in this episode

@alexdobma4694

8 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry your hopes and dreams were crushed, just like ours.

Best meet up ever in the serie

I think what Tyrion says here is the most logical thing Dany has heard in ages. I think her conquest of Westeros would be doomed to failure, mainly because 1) I don't think such an intricate and amazing story will end with the most obvious victor coming out on top (it's just too simple) 2) She doesn't understand how the politics works, Tyrion can help her but right now she's a little out of depth. 3) So she's going to break the wheel. What does that mean? Is she going to try and take down all the big main families? Lannister, Tyrell, Martell, Aryn, Stark, Lannister, Greyjoy, Baratheon. Why? She needs the support of someone in Westeros with an army, she needs support of lords and ladies who the commoners respect. PLUS, isn't she part of the wheel? I mean, she's proclaiming to be the queen, she's like top of the wheel! Seems a bit hypocritical. I honestly think she may have more to gain by never going to Westeros (we shall see). Also, on a side note, I couldn't help but feel really sad for Tommen this episode, I mean we didn't see him but he's had the two women he loves ripped away from him and imprisoned. It was bad enough with just Margaery locked away, now his mum? Poor him :( Luckily, Kevan is on the job.

@razgaros

9 жыл бұрын

LaughterInportable He is such a weak king tought :(.

@2211gk

9 жыл бұрын

LaughterInportable I think she just said a bit more than that... Did not you notice? She INCLUDED herself in the wheel - Lannister, TARGERYEN....

@WILTALK

9 жыл бұрын

LaughterInportable Dany has the vision. Tyron has the practicality to make that vision take form. That is the way things always happen. Causes need also need to be approached in a practical manner without losing the vision that inspired it. That is why Dany and Tyron make a good team. They complement each other.

@basboosa2812

9 жыл бұрын

LaughterInportable no..she included all houses vying for power including her own house. what shes saying is that she will destroy the social and ruling system that has been governing Westeros for thousands of years.. that system has caused nothing but chaos and let the big rich houses step all over the common people while they waged petty wars. the fact that she included herself in this speech indicate that shes planning to either remove the monarchy as a whole or create a more liberal sort of government where the common people, who are also the majority, have equal rights and say in the governance. Shes not going to be killing the rich but i suspect that she is planning to decrease the power they have over ruling the realm by giving a voice to the commoners as well.

@WILTALK

9 жыл бұрын

basboosa You make very good points. People that have a vision do not always get the full vision from the beginning. It sometimes formulates itself as they reach different goals along their path. She might have not even realized what she was going to do until she articulated it to Tyrion.

I can't put my feelings into words in this scene. Ahhhhhh love them both Go Dany and Tyrion!!!!

"The common people will support me..." "Why? There's no slaves to free on Westeros, you have to give them something different."

@jjh2456

Жыл бұрын

And that is the issue. She had no purpose in Westeros. Being a dragon rider whilst cool looking wasn’t going to work in Westeros.

Despite Tyrion failing her every step of the way, he was right here. Maybe Essos was her home. Maybe she could create a new wheel

@mellemadswoestenburg1296

10 ай бұрын

In the books Daenerys wants a home, family and peace more than literally anything else. What Tyrion suggested there would have done so much for her. A really good quote from a Season 8 rewrite i saw once perfectly drives that home. "What do you do if you don't have a home? You build a new one."

One of the best episodes by far, probably in the whole series, so far anyway...

Poor Greyjoy. No one ever mentioned about them. The Stark were nearly wiped out, but at least many recognized this house.

awesome episode, one of the best in the 5 seasons

Can't wait for the next episode

The worst and dumbest thing Daenerys did up until this point. Everything else aside why on earth make a Lannister (the family who completely betrayed and murdered her father and niece and nephew) her hand of the queen.

He gave her the best advice she could've heard. Rule here and leave westeros alone.

I remember this sound byte being the preview teaser of the season. Probably the last show I ever anticipated for and watched live.

Spoiler maybe... Am I the only one who thinks when Melisandre talks about the power of a Kings blood, she is talking about Targaryen blood. One of Stannis' grandparents was a Targaryen. Targaryens are of the blood of old Valyria and has close connections to dragons and magic. Not unlikely that their own blood has magic probaties. (Sorry for butchering English)

@herbapou

9 жыл бұрын

***** because he is...

This is for sure one of the best franchises ever. I wonder if Daenerys will come to Westeros with the intention of conquering only to change her mind and help Westeros fight back against the White Walkers with her Dragons. That would indeed be epic as hell. And I wonder what Bran's part will be in all of this if so. Will he warg into one of her dragons to better control them?

@karbonythe

2 жыл бұрын

Well, that didn't age well my friend

@aerystargaryenii2565

Жыл бұрын

​@@karbonythe none of them did

@WalkerChristopher11

11 ай бұрын

Well my friend here we are years later...what do you think?? How about that brand part especially??

emilia is the greatest. remarkable woman, remarkable role model! love her so much !!!!!!!!!

I actually liked this conversation more than the battle at the end.

Daenerys: If I wanted jokes I'd get a propper fool. Also, I'm going to break the wheel. Tyrion: Well, you won't have to look far to find that fool. *eye-rolls*

Anyone else remember when this show was good?

After the fact, it's not clear to me how her vision of breaking the wheel differed significantly from stopping the wheel with her on top.

@titealicia0108

Жыл бұрын

If the wheel is stopped, the other powerful houses are still key players (people at her council, who had money and influence). If she breaks the wheel, she's the only player and all the other houses are gone or clearly under her power. She always said she wants to be the one with absolue power, people just heared what they want. She's a Queen living in a pyramid in a great city she took, she would never have want to take westeros and have less power than in Meereen.

Damn! Few words have ever been spoken on television that are as powerful as the concluding remark "I not am going to stop the wheel. I am going to break the wheel!" If someone were not acquainted with Game of Thrones, and needed convincing to watch, I would have them watch this segment, just for the sheer power of the dialog.

they saved season 5 with this episode awesome!!!

I have been waiting for these two to meet. I am over the moon happy :D

Oh se lucieron con este ultimo capitulo, el final va a ser espectacular me imagino. Después a esperar un año a que vuelvan.

This was an awesome scene. Too bad overshadowed by the glorious white walker scenes.

@basboosa2812

9 жыл бұрын

mrKpooper4 i agree..it should have happened in the last episode..they lost a big opportunity there

Not that damn "Wheel speech" again, don't get me wrong, I loved Dany at season 1-3 / book 1-3. But now I hate her. Hopefully she becomes the main antagonist in the future because her winning in the end seems too cliche.

@owen4075

9 жыл бұрын

You have the Plannis

@ihavenousernamelol2

9 жыл бұрын

Stannis The Mannis again? i don't remember her giving this speech before

@twstyshaft2592

9 жыл бұрын

Stannis The Mannis IT was from the trailer... she hasn't said it before..

@brianl569

9 жыл бұрын

Stannis The Mannis Fake

@cecessqt

9 жыл бұрын

The main antagonist? Ha! Compared to what? The motherfucking ice zombies out to kill them all? You wish.

I am a massive fan of the books, and I couldn´t be happier about how this turned out. I loved the dynamic, and those were just two scenes. I´m looking forward to seeing how this will develop.

@valkyriesardo278

9 жыл бұрын

Emiliano Rodriguez I wish, but I liked other Tyrion pairings better with people that could match him with witty repartee or substance, Bronn, Varys, Baelish, Shae, Tywin, Jaime, Jeffrey, Jorah, Cersei. Poor Daenerys has a one track mind with precious little knowledge or life experience. Tabula rasa. Since you are a fan of the books does it mention anywhere that she can read and write? I measure her by successful rulers of real world history. She does not reflect their traits. Unruly dragons and a spiffy throne room don't impress me.

@javier30049

9 жыл бұрын

Valkyrie Sardo of course she can read, she speak like 4 languages or more! The common language of westeros, valyrian, dothraki...

@basboosa2812

9 жыл бұрын

Valkyrie Sardo she knows how to read and write well, but she knows nothing of dragon tales or histories of the seven kingdoms so u cant really expect her to know how to train dragons! they are dragons for goodness sake not dogs. how would u know what to do with 3 dragons when u have no knowledge or books on them since they have been extinct for many years and all those around u are just as shocked by them as u are?? oh and btw shes 12-14 years old in the actual books. she has done incredible things for her age and shows a great visionary mind, and her mistakes can easily be attributed to her age and lack of experience. Viserys taught her to read and write, but nothing else of the histories since he barely knew them himself. Dany at this point resembles Elizabeth I the most. Elizabeth was also taken advantage off at the beginning and her initial years were extremely unstable. She sent an army of children and young inexperienced men on a war that failed miserably and she became the laughingstock of the whole of Europe. she had great visionary mind but those around her were traditionalists and refused to listen to her. she too had many assassination attempts made on her and was almost forced into marriages she didnt want by other European monarchs and her own government. if it wasnt for Walsingham (her primary adviser who ironically was much like Tyrion) she wouldn't have survived the throne for a year.

@zachryder3150

Жыл бұрын

Whoops

This episode is the best one of all 5 seasons. Unreal

This was such a promising first conversation. Still angry at how D&D destroyed these characters with subpar writing.

@Nikolaj11

Жыл бұрын

Reason why I won't give them money to watch HoD.

@DrownedInExile

Жыл бұрын

@@Nikolaj11 I hear you. I didn't want to return to the world of Westeros after that disasterous final season either. But my evil brother changed my mind. Plus a quick trip to the Wicked Wiki shows that TweedleDum and TweedleDee aren't involved in HotD. So far I'm liking it.

@sebastienmccarthy1483

Жыл бұрын

@@Nikolaj11 D&D have nothing to do with House of the Dragon

Really feels like she could have done better just ruling back in Essos, biding her time. At least in the show. It's not like the dragons actually ended up being useful in the war against the dead. Could have just shown up with her army at full strength, perched on top of the red keep and won.

0:40 Ya know in hindsight this ended being pretty darn good advice. Had she just stayed in Essos she would've still been alive. And the Night King would have no means of getting past the wall without an undead dragon unless we assume that he would.

Daenerys really needed to understand that you can’t win the game if you don’t want to play it. If she really wanted the Iron Throne she should have realized that she would have to play politics no matter how much she hated it.

Best fight or slaughter ever in all the seasons!!

Unbelievably, stunningly interesting.

I mean, all the clues were right there. The first super obvious hint that she would turn to a vilain was when she burned everyone and grabbed the unsullied. The problem with later season was not that she turned mad, itwas always the path of that character. The problem is how poorly it was executed.

“House Targaryen is gone.” 😢

@selenarodgers5667

Жыл бұрын

I will always feel bad for Dany 🥺❤️

Tyrion literally gave her the best advice to any ruler in history in his first real cogent moment. You've saved a ton of lives right here, right now. Maybe this is where you belong.

0:37 - 0:45 that was the best advise Tyrion gave Dany...she should had listened to him

He forgot martells

Why didn't Tyrion mention the Martells?

@jonno2324

9 жыл бұрын

Or grey joys lol

@cmdharris

9 жыл бұрын

martells shit on greyjoys

@MsLm97

9 жыл бұрын

Charlie Harris foreshadowing maybe.....................

@cmdharris

9 жыл бұрын

MsLm97 you just broke the wheel of my mind

@MsLm97

9 жыл бұрын

Charlie Harris LOL thank you, you should see my other comment on this video o_O

0:22 'Advise you on what?' I think Peter's Jersey accent slipped out on the what. 😁

And she did break the wheel. While also setting fire to the cart, road and entire city

@zachryder3150

Жыл бұрын

We did it, Patrick!

I love when she takes the wine off him, bff! I called it haha

Nice to have great writers.

"I'm going to break the wheel" Later when she's killing lords that wouldn't bend the knee, why was anyone surprised?

Here gentlemen , are some of the best dialogues in the series 💪

A ferocious despotism of a new and better kind, breaking the old wheel, inevitably raising a new class of powerful people, and building a shiny new wheel to grind the low and those who have fallen from on high alike. Aegon would be proud of his heiress, he only did it half way.

Dany kind of forgot about the common people of King's Landing.

Daenrys Targaryen: Queen of corny quotes and unrealistic goals in a world full of greed, betrayal and worst of all, zombies

@okanhinisli8993

9 жыл бұрын

agreed

@jamesturner1858

9 жыл бұрын

Jimwilleatyou thats a terribly corny KZread comment for someone complaining about corniness

@Jimwilleatyou

9 жыл бұрын

Haha, touché James Dormer

when it was Great !

This felt like a crossover between two separate shows. Surreal and momentous.

God, I wish we got this Danaerys in season 8

"You're going to advice me. .... While you can still speak in complete sentences."

"That leaves the Tyrells." Uh, and the Martells, and the remaining riverlords, all of whom aside from the Freys despise the Lannister dynasty, oh, and wars aren't won with only the Great Houses anyway. Every war in Westeros, houses turn on their nominal lords. Happened in Robert's Rebellion, happened like fifteen fucking times in the War of Five Kings. The Starks are gone, he said it himself. How did that happen again? I seem to recall shifting loyalties were involved. But, this is Plot Tyrion, who is conveniently an idiot when it would be a writing challenge for him not to be.

Lmao tyrion's like "why the hell is everyone trying to prevent me from getting drunk"

But her cycle was revenge and that would never stop either. Two wrongs don't make a right Great show.

@h8616

6 ай бұрын

@@cadremage8948well, i would argue that technically jon broke the wheel. even tho daenerys killed cersei and jaime and the other lords who were apart of the wheel were dead, she still was apart of the wheel since she committed a genocide and got the throne she always wanted but that still wasn’t enough for her since she wanted to rule not only westeros but essos too which proves how power hungry and tyrannical she became. she wasn’t going to let anything and anyone stop her from getting what she wanted and she was going to make sure that her house doesn’t get overthrown again. when jon killed her he killed the last player of the wheel thus ending the game of thrones and hereditary monarchy and established a new form of government and democracy where the citizens vote for their new king/queen instead after bran dies.

@h8616

6 ай бұрын

@@cadremage8948 if you haven’t already, i would recommend you watch this youtube video “Game of Thrones Ending Explained, Part 1: The Downfall of Daenerys Targaryen”. this video explains daenerys’s story and ending so perfectly. it made me realize what daenery’s character arc actually was instead of what i thought it was before.

Really liking the beard.

I was expecting her to say "I'm not going to stop the wheel, I'm going to burn the wheel" xD

1:45 Exactly what I did when she gave that cringy wheel speech.

love how he forgot Greyjoy, Arryn, Martell and Arryn when listing the Paramount Lords lol

@DomWeasel

28 күн бұрын

No one respects the Greyjoys. House Arryn is officially led by a boy. And the Martells were the only family to resist the Targaryens originally.

"I'm going to break the wheel." "okay.. that's a cool line, but how do you actually plan on doing that? what are you going to do?" "well... uh.... you see... the common people! and uh... the....my um home and my um... claim..."

Dany was deemed a foreigner by both the people of Essos and Westeros. I’d like to see a a scenario be played out in a story where to different groups of people who reject a person as one of their own actually engage in dialogue and argue with each other about who that rejected person rightfully belongs to.

@Not-Ap

Жыл бұрын

That happens all the time with mixed race people. More often than not the only thing they can agree on is that the people don't belong to either group and like Danerys they are forced to fight for there own existence sadly at the cost of those who refuse to accept them. The only other alternative is death and extinction. Only the most self loathing choose that option.

Dany should've listened to Tyrion in this scene or at least considered his advice to stay in Meeran. She had more support and respect and beloved in Merren than Westeros who nothing but bad memories and dislike of her infamous family.

Dany is so uptight now! I miss when she had emotion and was nice

Strangely enough, I feel like just a tiny alteration to that last line would have made it come off a lot stronger. "I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break it." Would have sounded a lot better imo.

One thing Tyrion got wrong was that having the Tyrells wasn't enough. The Reach army is 3 times the size of the North, Vale, Riverlands, and twice the size of the Westerlands army. The issue Tyrion might've been referring to is that because the entire Reach is so populated the lesser lords are extremely powerful even in their own right. Not only that but they have more noble blood than the Tyrells and don't listen to them sometimes.

'Only Targaryen' So are we ruling out Maester Aemon and Young Griff?

so is Varys is still going to meet Daenerys or is he going back to Kingslanding?? by now I think words of the chaos on Kingslanding and the arrest of Cersei and the Tyrells should've reached him. it'll be cool if Tyrion and Dany could get a hold of this information.

@maxrav1831

9 жыл бұрын

***** Varys is still on his way

@jtiss_1023

9 жыл бұрын

***** Who knows, maybe he went back to King's Landing and is going to kill Kevan Lannister and Grand Maester Pycelle like in the books

@cmdharris

9 жыл бұрын

It would be a shame if Kevan went now, we haven't seen much of him this season

@barnes92196

9 жыл бұрын

Jav Tiss Some people haven't read the books. The show may be spoiling parts for us still gives you no right to put spoilers out in the open.

@AbbieJolie

9 жыл бұрын

I assume Varys will continue his journey to meet her, and I haven't read the books.

Those are very necessary character according to me. Good characters.

What about the martels!!!!! They'd defiantly support her

Tyrion: I'd advise against crossing the Narrow Sea, it might be better to rule here. Besides we have enough wine to last a life-time. Daenerys: Actually our supply won't last through the winter. Tyrion:....... Daenerys:....... Tyrion: Well what are we waiting for, let's get plotting!!!

Too bad that she never realized, not did Tyrian apparently, that the problem with breaking a wheel.... and the spokes thereof.... is that there will always eventually be another wheel, so long as you wait long enough for it to happen.

Tyrion is the best!! I have been waiting for their meeting since the beginning. I think he can help her a lot, if she stops being a arrogant and listens to him

They are surprisingly good together. Had to roll my eyes when Dany done the whole 'break the wheel' speech though. 😌

Tyrion's face when she takes his wine. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂