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  • @TheLux008
    @TheLux0086 жыл бұрын

    I think giants in the earth are just their way of referring to seismic activity. When there's an earthquake it really does feel like giants below you are moving around, waking up.

  • @asharadaynedragonblood1803

    @asharadaynedragonblood1803

    6 жыл бұрын

    TheLux008 ...and Dragons in the sky are meteor showers. The Doom was a meteor impact, the Long Night followed, as the sky turned dark of smoke and blocked the sun. The atmosphere cooled and winter came.

  • @23uncbball

    @23uncbball

    5 жыл бұрын

    I always liked the theory their was a second Moon and it blocked out the sun before it was destroyed. The lack of the second Moon could be why the seasons got screwed. Maybe we should call pain from Naruto to fix it using plantery devastation lol

  • @post-leftluddite

    @post-leftluddite

    5 жыл бұрын

    The doom of valyria happened long after the long night, many thousands of years after....in fact, the Valyrian freehold didn't even exist when the Long Night occurred

  • @asharadaynedragonblood1803

    @asharadaynedragonblood1803

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@post-leftluddite I was referring to the Long Night 1.0, not the Doom of Valyria. I think we can state it fact that dragons existed long before Valyria even existed. So my guess is: dragons were around in the Dawn Age when LN1.0 happened. Perhaps the "falling star" was a dragon?! Maybe, maybe it was a fallen star literally.

  • @k-la-k6828

    @k-la-k6828

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like Attack on Titan

  • @TomDean3004
    @TomDean30046 жыл бұрын

    The Others would be ice giants from the Children of the Forest’s point of view

  • @FirCorred

    @FirCorred

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tom Dean - ok, that's got me thinking. Song is about different viewpoints/perspectives, right? Anyway, why does no one ever mention the Heart of Winter? It's not a question of why the Others came back, they've been around all along, if we believe the Free Folk... Question is, what makes them step forward now? In Bran's flying dream, he sees the reason why he must live and change, waiting at the Heart of Winter, beyond the aurea borealis of the Ice+FireWorld. Description sounds-to me-like it's the northern pole, the strongest force there would be magnetism... Hell, I'm sorry, was just thinking out loud. That's what you get for making me think (:

  • @silentgunshotgonzalez7551
    @silentgunshotgonzalez75516 жыл бұрын

    Children of the forest : THE WAR IS WON !!!! PRAISE THE OLD GODS !!! First men : Hold my beer .....

  • @gilbertoignacioaguirrevarg4550

    @gilbertoignacioaguirrevarg4550

    4 жыл бұрын

    Actually, the old gods became old when westeros adopted the seven, si technicaly, it's just the gods...

  • @leonthecool123
    @leonthecool1236 жыл бұрын

    George RR Martin probably watch this channel and thinks” well they figured out everything, I don’t need to release anymore books

  • @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    6 жыл бұрын

    hahaha...I'd settle for learning he's heard of us

  • @undarkwin

    @undarkwin

    6 жыл бұрын

    them and freaking Preston!😂😂😂 They enterteined us while GRRM hasn't published books but at the same time they are the very reason GRRM no longer writes, lol Sounds like something GRRM would do/write

  • @sophiawilson8696

    @sophiawilson8696

    6 жыл бұрын

    LOL

  • @cbob213

    @cbob213

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Order of the Green Hand did you get Greenhand gold from somewhere? His official coin maker or something?

  • @jasonhowell7601
    @jasonhowell76015 жыл бұрын

    I hope the books to come do the others/white walkers more justice than that sorry excuse of a finale season, on the show we learned next to nothing, I am sure GRRM will do much, much, better, if he ever finishes the books of course. Thanks for your insightful take on this from the books, keep up the good work.

  • @johnathankinne3998
    @johnathankinne39986 жыл бұрын

    Even the hammer of the waters would be an effect of seismic activity. An earthquake under the fourteen flames would easily result in the Doom. "Giants in the earth". This is why I love this channel. I think the "horn of Joramun " was actually a ritual, with a name that when interpreted literal, leads one to think this was an actual horn, and maybe blowing a horn is part of the ritual. Waking the Others as a result makes so much sense as well.

  • @kianaingram657
    @kianaingram6576 жыл бұрын

    Lady Green Hand: SO, let’s do THIS! ME: *SCREAMS*

  • @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    6 жыл бұрын

    hahaha! love this!

  • @jhherkert
    @jhherkert6 жыл бұрын

    "The Ice Dragon" = The Others, "The Shadow Cat" = Lion of Night, "The Moonmaid" = Maiden Made of Light, and "The Sword of the Morning" = The First King

  • @shavedata5436
    @shavedata54366 жыл бұрын

    I don't really see the connection between the doom and the breaking, and the relevance to Bran's dream. The one word you're hinging on to make it work is the mention of "blood" in Bran's dream and the doom passage, where in the doom it was "the blood of demons", as in fiery volcanic meteors, while in Bran's dream it was "thick black [faceless] blood" which could be connected to Qyburn and Gregor/Robert Strong or Faceless Men, but not Valyria. That doesn't mean the Faceless men didn't cause the doom, but I question it's connection to the breaking.

  • @brandonjeffi5976

    @brandonjeffi5976

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did you watch the video? They outline several other similarities before mentioning the blood

  • @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195

    @hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@brandonjeffi5976 They are not saying that they don't see the connection between the doom and the h.o.w., but the connection with those two AND Bran's dream. The all three, not just the two.

  • @itsnotatoober

    @itsnotatoober

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @Jockeylotforfun
    @Jockeylotforfun6 жыл бұрын

    There definitely seems to be an undercurrent within the story of "elementals", Fire, Ice, Water, Forests, Sky or stars, and possibly more, being the old Gods "beyond counting". I'd love to know where Grrm is taking us. Come on Winds of winter! Great job Love QOT.🌹 😊

  • @ReignofIndepence
    @ReignofIndepence6 жыл бұрын

    I am so enthralled with the way you guys pointed out just how good a fighter Mance is whilst being glammared as The Lord of Bones. Mance has not once been renowned as such a skilled warrior once until he easily beat a battle hardened Lord Snow

  • @gabriellaminerva1
    @gabriellaminerva16 жыл бұрын

    Yaaassss!!!!!! I have been itching for you guys to drop another video. How awesome is it that you mentioned King Hoare and his link to black blood. IIRC, one of the Maesters (cant remember who) mentioned the Hoare line descended from the Andals which created a line of black haired, black eyed and black hearted kings. Which immediately makes me think of Euron and his black hair and one great black eye, and how spooky is it that he has a underling named Harran Half-Hoare. I think Euron is Harren the Black come again with his slave blood sacrifices, only his version of Harrenhall is the Silence on the Sea. I'll be re-watching this video until the next one drops. Awesome job Greenhand!! Love you guys!!

  • @SuperClassics101
    @SuperClassics1016 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos! My favorite one is still the one dissing the whole Rheagar and Lyanna thing. I was laughing hysterically throughout the whole thing.

  • @alanl.4252
    @alanl.42526 жыл бұрын

    This is a little off topic, but when watching your dorne and aegon videos it crossed my mind that the stories of Aegon and Nymeria are strikingly similar to one another. Both figures go and conquer divided kingdoms after the destruction of their homeland and create their own unified kingdoms out of the chaos. Aegon witnesses the destruction of the Freehold during the Doom, Nymeria witnesses the destruction of the Rhoynar at the hands of the dragon lords. Aegon went on to unify a divided Westeros while we see Nymeria unify a divided Dorne. Just thought it was a neat coincidence is all.

  • @wolfsbanealphas617

    @wolfsbanealphas617

    6 жыл бұрын

    Francis Ivan Xavier7vs13 it’s sad that their raves could never get along they could’ve counqured the world I also feel like the wrong people were born at the wrong time if she had been born then they might have gotten along since polygamy is a thing in their society

  • @mvalthegamer2450

    @mvalthegamer2450

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, Aegon was born almost a hundred years after the doom

  • @brawleyk4530
    @brawleyk45306 жыл бұрын

    Was starting to think the others took you! Looking forward to quality production as usual!

  • @booknerdlover3675
    @booknerdlover36756 жыл бұрын

    After a long, hot day at a job with no air conditioning, it's soooo nice to come home and see a new video! Let's do this!!!

  • @kwgrid
    @kwgrid6 жыл бұрын

    Old Valyria sounds like Atlantis.

  • @AWW8472
    @AWW84726 жыл бұрын

    If the same kind of magic that destroyed Valyria was used on the Arm of Dorne long before the Doom, I think it wasn't the Children of the Forest who broke the Arm. I think the First Men did it. If they were fleeing from the evils brought on by the Blood Betrayal they might want the added protection of the Narrow Sea, which would include the deities known to live there.The Lion of Night and his demons would have to contend with the Mother Royne and her children before they made theIr way to the Stepstones after crossing the Bones, if they were so inclined. I mean why would the Lion of Night stop at the Great Empire of the Dawn? Unless something or someone prevented him from spreading his wrath westward toward the Narrow Sea and into Westeros? Also, why do we believe the version of the Breaking recorded by the Maesters in the WOIAF? Perhaps Brandon the Builder went east after building the Wall and helped beat back the forces of the Lion of Night and then built the Five Forts? The legends say the Last Hero treated with the Children of the Forest, but that could have happened in Essos with the Ifequevron or Wood-walkers.

  • @genesismarcum1395
    @genesismarcum13956 жыл бұрын

    You’re back! Love your vids. Hope all is better with you and yours!

  • @justchris1155
    @justchris11556 жыл бұрын

    You guys are still rocking the theories, absolutely eye opening. Hbo should hire you as researchers.

  • @MsCastle1996
    @MsCastle19966 жыл бұрын

    God I love these theories. You don't mind if I binge watch all of them? Again Best. ASOIAF. Theories. Ever Now feed me more of that high quality content

  • @l2i2algonquin80

    @l2i2algonquin80

    6 жыл бұрын

    MsCastle Preston Jacobs eats these theories for breakfast then pulls a Tywin and shits them out gold.

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly19976 жыл бұрын

    The theories claim that Bran's birth awoke them in the current story. Even though they were active long before even Rickard Stark was born

  • @radude83

    @radude83

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jggh

  • @ChuckECheeez

    @ChuckECheeez

    5 жыл бұрын

    Awoke when Varys was cut

  • @obsidian00
    @obsidian006 жыл бұрын

    Another great vid...you two seem to be the only ones giving some real thought to this masterpiece!

  • @Cronoo
    @Cronoo6 жыл бұрын

    Why you do that? Get me hooked on the cliff hanger, and make me wait. MOAR! haha

  • @molly-zx9cr
    @molly-zx9cr6 жыл бұрын

    Blood and corpses were also described as black in Old Norse texts. It’s usually referring to it being dark and related to death and not so much their actual color

  • @treehouse318
    @treehouse3186 жыл бұрын

    i just love you guys so much. thank you for another awesome video!😊

  • @alienazed
    @alienazed6 жыл бұрын

    FINALLY! i was doing a marathon your vids again and again this week!

  • @morellanaghenz778
    @morellanaghenz7786 жыл бұрын

    As always, amazing work! This theory is way better than the show version of children of the forest stabbing one guy to make the “night king” and that is it. There’s similarities between the two ideas, but yours is much more developed

  • @skylersd
    @skylersd6 жыл бұрын

    Whenever the Others appear, they always seem to come during great times of turmoil, when Westeros is least prepared and already at war. The first time being the war with the First Men against the Children of The Forest and the Giants. Now, with the War of the Five Kings along with Daenerys' invasion, which seems to correspond with the First Men's invasion.

  • @ReignofIndepence
    @ReignofIndepence6 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos. I'm hooked. Love the Arthur Dayne theory too.

  • @gavomorg2948
    @gavomorg29486 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant as always guys

  • @gokbay3057
    @gokbay30576 жыл бұрын

    Why can't the stone giant be Gregor? "A giant made of stone". Half (or a third) of the Titan is made of copper (iirc) and Gregor Clegane is the mountain that rides. And mountains are made of stone. It makes sense in the context of the scene with Bran talking about the King's party, Sandor ("with the face of a hound") and Jaime ("golden and beautiful" just as Bran describes him in his dreams of being pushed from the tower "things I do for love"). Also about the "black blood of demons" it could be tar or something a volcanic matter.

  • @ShadeStormXD

    @ShadeStormXD

    2 жыл бұрын

    this is how i read it as well, just fits too perfectly rather than the titan which requires a lot more argument, guesswork and stretching

  • @tracywhitlock5395
    @tracywhitlock53956 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always guys!!! It must take forever to make, record and edit these videos...your time and energy is much appreciated!!

  • @bigbucketbrucey2479
    @bigbucketbrucey24796 жыл бұрын

    Thanks guys for the great vids, always times up with work here in Aus so make the day better

  • @jennyr4057
    @jennyr40575 жыл бұрын

    great video! subscribed!

  • @liamlepocher7540
    @liamlepocher75406 жыл бұрын

    Thank god they're back! more videos plz

  • @debodatta7398
    @debodatta73986 жыл бұрын

    Been waiting for this all week!

  • @jadendred5448
    @jadendred54486 жыл бұрын

    Ahh that ending. So good! Speaking of a massive tidal wave in one of the Victorian chapters when he is waiting for the lost iron fleet ships in the island of monkeys and stocking on pork it mentions that when the doom happened a massive wave broke all the trees when it passed so that pretty much confirms there was a tsunami in one thus both of those instances. Perhaps a linear/ circular path from the Valeria to that island would yield interesting observations on how truly devastating the doom was. What I'm most interested is if the wave reached that island did it reach Dorne? And is there a subtle mention of it? Might explain those caves...

  • @cmschmidt
    @cmschmidt6 жыл бұрын

    I find the Iron Born and the Drowned God fascinating and I can’t wait for those videos. This is a really interesting theory. The greatest threat to the living was sort of an oopsie side effect of some hard core magic. Really reinforces the fact that all magic has a price that is paid by the ones wielding it.

  • @deserttortoise6077
    @deserttortoise60776 жыл бұрын

    You guys are the best fan theory channel on KZread.

  • @jimboy3625
    @jimboy36256 жыл бұрын

    I think the tidal wave associated with Jorumans Horn taking the wall down would be the wall itself, it's a giant frozen wave that would crash down. Great video as always!

  • @Allconjecture
    @Allconjecture6 жыл бұрын

    This is why yours is The Only Game of Thrones content I recommend to people

  • @liv9589

    @liv9589

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kvothe I'd also recommend Preston Jacobs

  • @dustinsmith2021
    @dustinsmith20216 жыл бұрын

    I needed this. Thank you so much for your hard work.

  • @MrScottie301
    @MrScottie3016 жыл бұрын

    You two need to stop making me rethink things every time I watch your video!! Great stuff

  • @tylerbarrett6652
    @tylerbarrett6652 Жыл бұрын

    You know... considering the yin/yang thing, I have to wonder if there might be some pendulum effect going on here. The idea is to try to achieve a balance... but when the pendulum swings too far into darkness, it's swing back to the light is inevitable... isn't it? The farther it swings into darkness, the farther that pendulum is going to swing back into the light. So... perhaps we could consider that the Hammer of the Waters was a swing one way... and the doom of Valeria was a swing back the other way - though one's cause was frozen fire and the other fire... with the goal being a natural balance. I mean... it's hard for me to put the children on one side and the realm of men on another - because they are both living realms, and we are led to believe that this ultimate battle is between life and death. It's just confusing to try to keep everything straight, but I'm pretty sure we are looking for the Goldy Locks world... not too much magic, not too little.... not too much light, not too much darkness... not too much fire, not too much ice... The answer is to balance chaos and order... not for one to dominate the other... isn't it?

  • @thisguy8106
    @thisguy81066 жыл бұрын

    So good. So damn good. Thank y'all!

  • @Mantorch
    @Mantorch6 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to see what you'll amaze us with this time!

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    @RevealTheStyle6 жыл бұрын

    Long availed video! Thank you, The Order of the Green Hand! Lots of love from Belarus 🇧🇾❤️

  • @paulkuch420
    @paulkuch4206 жыл бұрын

    YEAH YEAH! THANX FOR ALL UR VIDS

  • @matthewbroestl3635
    @matthewbroestl36356 жыл бұрын

    Just found you guys randomly and so happy I did! Great video, I subscribed and looking forward to more 😃

  • @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much

  • @Maibuwolf

    @Maibuwolf

    6 жыл бұрын

    They are one of the few GoT related channels on youtube that are not just vomiting out the most popular reddit theories to try and get views. It is quite refreshing. Even if all of their theories end up being wrong i still find it more enjoyable than listening to a video about some shit i have already heard 1000 times.

  • @scottmerryman
    @scottmerryman6 жыл бұрын

    YES. Thank you again m'lord and m'lady!!!!

  • @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your patience

  • @scottmerryman

    @scottmerryman

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Order of the Green Hand happy to wait. Waiting on pins and needles for the ironborn

  • @thisguy8106
    @thisguy81066 жыл бұрын

    I've been holding my breath waiting for this video!.. So now I'm watching through the weirwood net. Lol

  • @nickgreen9080
    @nickgreen90806 жыл бұрын

    They woke to stop catelyn

  • @HebrewsElevenTwentyFive

    @HebrewsElevenTwentyFive

    6 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant 😂

  • @darylchurch2115

    @darylchurch2115

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Stoneheart must be stopped! ÒwÓ

  • @itaipee
    @itaipee6 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Can't wait to your podcast with PJ..

  • @LaurensCorner
    @LaurensCorner6 жыл бұрын

    As always, well worth the wait. Green Hand for eternity

  • @SofiaBorbolet
    @SofiaBorbolet6 жыл бұрын

    You seem to have cold I hope you feel better soon. Really like your videos. Thank you

  • @davewdriscoll
    @davewdriscoll6 жыл бұрын

    The Breaking of The Doom down! Nice work..

  • @benagaran20
    @benagaran205 жыл бұрын

    The Others were woken by Hot Pie discovering the secret of browning the butter first. It smelled damn good and now they are heading to the Inn at the crossroads to get themselves some pies.

  • @pankratos5017

    @pankratos5017

    8 ай бұрын

    This would certainly be the story's plot if it had been written by Terry Pratchett!

  • @RobbyH94
    @RobbyH944 жыл бұрын

    I'm new to the channel, but I'm super impressed by the level of detail in the videos I've seen so far.

  • @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    4 жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @malmorbidus2788
    @malmorbidus27886 жыл бұрын

    maybe the old gods are similar to those native american lore, where they are literally part of the flora and fauna, the earth. and so clearing it all away in the name of some gods from another place woke up an ancient power within it all. it's protecting itself.

  • @jjvoity7797
    @jjvoity77976 жыл бұрын

    Have you read "The Ice Dragon" by GRRM? It pre-dates anything written about SoIaF, and the battling kingdoms in it cannot be placed. You have to uncomfortably shoehorn the setting in. But there are huge, huge, huge similarities that really jump out at you such that it looks very much like a proto-Westeros, I won't spoil the story for you and any other reader except one little facet. Anyway, my point, during winter, the Ice Dragon appears and it is much bigger than any dragon the King's riders' have. But the Ice Dragon only comes in Winter. Here's the spoiler part: the enemy kingdom's dragons are winning the war and come to the girl's village, the Ice Dragon she is connected to comes to save her. But this occurs in the middle of summer, until then, she's never seen him in summer. It's clearly only come to save her as it senses that she is in extreme danger. The Ice dragon in summer is still quite strong and powerful to be sure but is much smaller, less grand, is constantly melting, and is far, far weaker than it is in winter.

  • @TurinInquisitor
    @TurinInquisitor5 жыл бұрын

    TO SHOW YOU THE POWER OF FLEX TAPE I CRACKED THIS HORN IN HALF. gl sounding it Sam!

  • @pallerdog
    @pallerdog6 жыл бұрын

    Using my geologic comprehension: the giants caused a MASSIVE claw impact UNDERNEATH the crust of the planet causing the claw-shaped set of islands where the land bridge once was. The planet is just one large dragon egg. Except a claw of a dragon to dwarf the size of the wall when it returns to set the planet back on course.

  • @bbunnyscribe
    @bbunnyscribe5 жыл бұрын

    This is why I am so excited for Fire & Blood to come out because I honestly feel like there is information contained within that is pertinent to the main series. We all know George's world has gotten so expansive that he probably needed to take a step back and write more history just to fill in gaps that he wouldn't sufficiently be able to do within the last two books. It's short-sighted of people to get angry about Fire & Blood coming out before TWOW, imo.

  • @scottie16976
    @scottie169766 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Looking forward to the Ironborn video. Noticed you tacked on a pic of Harwyn Hoare near the end. In Brans falling vision when he sees the giant armored in stone with black blood. The "armored in stone" part always made me think of the Titan of Braavos. But the black blood makes me think of House Hoare. Harren and his sons in Harrenhall, the black blood of House Hoare, was armored in stone. There is a line in the world book when Aegon and Harren the Black parley outside Harrenhal," Yield now," Aegon began, "and you may remain as Lord of the Iron Islands. Yield now, and your sons will live to rule after you. I have eight thousand men outside your walls." "What is outside my walls is of no concern to me," said Harren. "Those walls are strong and thick." "But not so high as to keep out dragons. Dragons fly." "I built in stone," said Harren. "Stone does not burn." To which Aegon said, "When the sun sets, your line shall end." Is this giant some descendant? I know Harren's brother was Lord commander at the Wall at that time. The building and destruction of Harrenhal (to me anyway) is like a mini doom of Valyria. thousands of captives/slaves died to build a great monument to a proud King These captives/slaves must have prayed for death like the slaves in the Valyrian mines. The Children must have been angered by the destruction of the weirwods to make the rafters and beams, and all this on the shores of the Gods Eye in full view of the isle of Faces. Could the CotF have somehow influenced Aegon to come to Westeros to bring an end to this?

  • @ShadeStormXD

    @ShadeStormXD

    2 жыл бұрын

    tbh i read it as bran seeing the hound, jamie and lastly the undead mountain, since his head was sent to appease dorne. so when he lifts his visor theres nothing underneath, other than whatever bile and blood qyburns experiments left behind

  • @scottie16976

    @scottie16976

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ShadeStormXD Hope you're having a merry christmas. The scene reads like it's the Mountain(I agree) and it probably is but this was a Greenhand vid so your always looking for that alternative explanation. The thing about this scene (IMO)is that everything that Bran sees is happening at that moment(more or less). It doesn't read like a prediction of the future. The 'storm' ahead of Cat and ser Rodrick could be the drama they're heading into in Kings Landing but in the next Cat chapter she recalls a storm they hit off Dragonstone. In my own personal head canon(at the moment lol) the stone giant is Littlefinger (Titan of Braavos Baelish sigil). Who knows? It could just be as simple as you say and it's the Mountain.

  • @popalupa4844
    @popalupa48445 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like Bran's falling dream is referencing Gregor Clegane, rather than the Titan of Braavos.

  • @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    5 жыл бұрын

    a lot of people think that, but I don't understand why the Mountain would be there looming over everyone, from a literal or symbolic standpoint

  • @popalupa4844

    @popalupa4844

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Order of the Green Hand I always got the impression that it was because the Mountain represents the brutal reality of knighthood. He is standing over the golden knight and the knight of flowers to show show how the institution of knighthood is tainted by that brutality, as well as to juxtapose it with common perceptions of knights.

  • @leiflohne3096
    @leiflohne30966 жыл бұрын

    WOW!! This is one great channel!! I'm so gonna watch a lot during the summer!!!

  • @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @leiflohne3096

    @leiflohne3096

    6 жыл бұрын

    I subscribe! I am blown away! And you guys have great voices!!

  • @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I just got over the flu so I’m glad it wasn’t too noticeable

  • @SvenTuSventu
    @SvenTuSventu6 жыл бұрын

    So Jenny of old stones and the blood of nearly all the royals at summer hall is the REAL reason. I know you didn't say that but you made me think it.

  • @nohashtagshere4116
    @nohashtagshere41166 жыл бұрын

    Finally the ironborn!!!

  • @MrFirextinguisher
    @MrFirextinguisher6 жыл бұрын

    Let’s do this! Hope you guys add having a great summer, when’s the royal wedding?

  • @daisyvision
    @daisyvision6 жыл бұрын

    What springs to mind is Macumber from the show, and Oberyn's line "Some believe the sky is blue because we live inside the eye of a blue-eyed giant." Makes you wonder!

  • @Biderbeck
    @Biderbeck6 жыл бұрын

    nice work

  • @a.j.stringfellow8989
    @a.j.stringfellow89896 жыл бұрын

    Wow you guys are smart. I’ve been reading asoiaf lore for years and never put the doom and creation of the stepstones together

  • @TonyTheProphecy
    @TonyTheProphecy6 жыл бұрын

    I'm late... but i'm here let's do this 🤓👂

  • @dratheart
    @dratheart6 жыл бұрын

    PS- Guys, I believe some of the German Nazis spoke of "the giants" that would join them in The Reich but to them "the giants" merely represented "the supermen", giants of power and "purity of blood" I believe - it doesn't actually mean giants as creatures of incredible size but incredible power instead. How can we be sure that GRRM didn't mean "giants" in that usage rather than the common parlance?

  • @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    6 жыл бұрын

    That’s very close to where I was originally going with it until we remembered the legend of the ice giants

  • @adamantiiispencespence4012

    @adamantiiispencespence4012

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not necessarily Frederick the Great of Prussia was obsessed with the idea of having an army of giants. And to some extent he got one he had an entire regiment of the vertically. The shortest man in that regiment was 6'7 or 6'8.

  • @9trevor9
    @9trevor96 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the doom is the Summer equivelent of the long night.

  • @michelerowell3467
    @michelerowell34676 жыл бұрын

    Needed this in my life today!

  • @princeprocrastinate6485
    @princeprocrastinate64856 жыл бұрын

    I always thought the reference to giants waking in the Earth was a metaphor for earthquakes, that the Hammer of the Waters and the Horn of Joruman could cause massive amounts of seismic activity through some magical process. It's also worth noting that in the real world seismic activity does have a knock-on effect with volcanoes and can lead to eruptions. Interesting theories as always, great stuff.

  • @redcd3743
    @redcd37436 жыл бұрын

    i like the part with the faceless men's meddling (they're always involved when sh*t goes down), and the inference about the giant in Bran's dream being Littlefinger and not the mountain (#refreshing), but on the rest i failed to see the innovation (which is what i usually expect from your theories)... there are so many more factors to keep in mind: the andals, the pact(s), the previous long night(s) and its (their?) resolution(s), dragons in westeros, plus the fact that the doom was several hundreds of years past current events. And to add to the tinfoil: the night's king, the starks in winterfel, the sacrifices (tie queen Allysane), Craster sacrificing his boys for some decades, the "meeting" during Dany's wedding, the magic awakening and so on...

  • @commanderdanielcousland9981
    @commanderdanielcousland99815 жыл бұрын

    Current guess, Lord manderly, the Lord of old wyk, and our favorite Pentoshi Magister sat down at the same time a lot faster than anyone expected.

  • @serlawrenceharlem6715
    @serlawrenceharlem67156 жыл бұрын

    I needed some clarity.

  • @OscyJack-
    @OscyJack-6 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always, interested to see how this topic will shake up. I personally think that Giants of the Earth is more referring to a deity class (drowned god, , the great other, the guy hanging out in the caves in essos where no one goes and comes back, some fiery version. A class like tolkiens maiar/ainur. Ice/fire>water/earth>valyrians/children>men. I think that the children are able to call upon the Giants of the Earth in relation to the event of doom that occurs. IE, call upon the drowned god for the hammer of water, what fire giant there is for the doom of valyria. Call upon the giant of ice to create the others. A race perhaps that predates the children /valyrians that may be embodiments of ice/fire or still below the two main balancing forces. Sorry if that's abstract, keep up the good work

  • @tulkas42o22
    @tulkas42o226 жыл бұрын

    I've heard a theory that the whight viserion from the show isn't an ice dragon. It spews blue flame where as an ice dragon doesn't spew fire. I hope for this because I have zero faith in D&D seeing grr Martins vision all the way through. They already fucked it up with sansa unless Harry the heir turns out to be a sadist as well. Who else is rooting for an ice dragon. In the books that is. Rumor has it that in the show jon becomes king but abdicates once he is done with his "hour of the wolf". ;)

  • @serbowdster2311
    @serbowdster23116 жыл бұрын

    Lovin this vid guys.

  • @mickdundee364
    @mickdundee3646 жыл бұрын

    yay! you're back! pls don't leave me again lol

  • @MartinNagy_mnagy
    @MartinNagy_mnagy6 жыл бұрын

    Don't you think that "waking giants from the earth" is just a metaphor for earthquakes? It seems to me that for a medieval people, giants in the earth sounds like a great explanation for an earthquake.

  • @protoncoccus3229
    @protoncoccus32293 жыл бұрын

    I love your theory videos ❤️💓

  • @krissaunders6418
    @krissaunders6418 Жыл бұрын

    This just occurred to me. The Breaking and the Dum were geological events. If both happened simultaneously, there could be enough volcanic ash to cause a global cooling event. If Winter hits at the same time, then the Long Night = A long Winter + Global Cooling by volcanos. Then there is the world getting darker due to the ash in the air. If the other grew in strength due to the mass sacrifice as well, causing the erratic winters in the first place. Then the world of ASoIaF is messed up due to the acts of men. Thus making it a metaphor for man-made climate change. A real-world example of this is The Great Collapse. It is thought that an Icelandic volcano erupted and its ash cloud hung over the Mediterranean and Middle east. Causing food shortages and eventually the collapse.

  • @michelerowell3467
    @michelerowell34676 жыл бұрын

    Love the quote as well. I've always thought that was a huge foreshadowed element in the saga.

  • @kylelouer4323
    @kylelouer43236 жыл бұрын

    Love the video. I just see the giant made of stone as a mountain, the Mountain. Looking over the Hound and Arya as they need to kill him together

  • @lesvosace602
    @lesvosace6026 жыл бұрын

    Nice work

  • @VanHonkerton
    @VanHonkerton6 жыл бұрын

    "One shadow was dark as ash, with the terrible face of a hound" is clearly Sandor, "Another was armored like the sun, golden and beautiful." is clearly Jamie and the third is The Mountain (zombie)

  • @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    6 жыл бұрын

    why would the Mountain have stone armor? it seems to me that the third shadow was a mystical being that was watching them...the Mountain wasn't there

  • @pankratos5017

    @pankratos5017

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@TheOrderoftheGreenhandBecause mountains are made of stone.

  • @johndaly5268
    @johndaly52686 жыл бұрын

    Fiiiiiiiiiiinaly!!!!!!! I hope lady greenhands mother is feeling better

  • @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sorry for the wait. And thank you so much. m’lady’s mother is making tremendous progress

  • @scottmerryman

    @scottmerryman

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear she's faring well!

  • @Jockeylotforfun

    @Jockeylotforfun

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Order of the Green Hand I'm delighted to hear that she's making progress. It's a difficult journey for the patient and family. I'll keep all of you in my prayers, love QOT.🌹

  • @johndaly5268

    @johndaly5268

    6 жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear she's doing better. Your iron born videos are going to be epic! That section of TWOIAF was one of the most interesting parts in my opinion

  • @bobbyritchie8031
    @bobbyritchie80316 жыл бұрын

    Super excited for your iron borne series!

  • @NegativePleasure
    @NegativePleasure6 жыл бұрын

    Is it wrong that I mostly use your videos to help me sleep? You two have really good narrative voices.

  • @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    6 жыл бұрын

    not at all...I guess we'd probably prefer that you were awake when you watched them, but we're in no position to be choosy...it still seems almost surreal that people actually click on our videos

  • @roxasdv6432
    @roxasdv64326 жыл бұрын

    My lord and lady of the green hand back at it again

  • @Tellemicus
    @Tellemicus6 жыл бұрын

    You know the tale about the Last Hero and how he enlisted the Children? What if all the different tales surrounding and the different heroes from different lands were true? They were a band of heroes who all fought against the dark and went in search of the Children, but tragically all but one died while on the journey? That is why he's called the 'last hero'!

  • @AWW8472

    @AWW8472

    6 жыл бұрын

    And why do we think the Last Hero treating with the Children of the Forest happened in Westeros? Woodwalkers in Essos...

  • @subarnosinha8042
    @subarnosinha80426 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely mind blowing! But the Titan of the Braavos has a face too, with fiery eyes, I think. I maybe wrong.

  • @mkaylor121
    @mkaylor1216 жыл бұрын

    The editor is amazing

  • @krakentacos
    @krakentacos6 жыл бұрын

    I'm subscribed and a patreon but I got no notice this was up.....Great video!!!..as usual.

  • @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    6 жыл бұрын

    We’ve been doing this for a while now and still don’t understand why some subs don’t get notifications sometimes. It doesn’t make sense to me but just about every time we release a video a few people tell us they didn’t get the notification

  • @ShaunshankRedemption

    @ShaunshankRedemption

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Order of the Green Hand i didnt get one either and im pretty sure it unsubbed me from notifications too

  • @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    @TheOrderoftheGreenhand

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don’t get it. At one point I was convinced that the notifications go out sporadically over the first week but I have no idea whether that’s correct either

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