Hey, this is a wonderful video and I want to thank you for making it. I'm going to start recommending it in the descriptions of my videos. That being said, I do have some small notes, mostly just for background info. 09:55 You can minimize the visible interlacing artifacts by adjusting the LCD potentionmeter on the back of the GBA mainboard. Using the "AGS Aging" test patterns on screen is extremely helpful in getting the calibration dialed in perfectly and quickly. 11:49 The tearing on the funnyplaying version in particular seems to happen about 60 frames after a LCD reset command and then there are no tears after that from what I can see. At least until the next reset anyway. Like you said at 20:40, this is because the screen is turning off. 12:34 This was true of the early unbranded kits but I believe it's been resolved in the current ones. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell if you are getting an old stock old cable or a new stock new cable. In the unbranded vendor sector, the only "v2" designation that is actually meaningful is the DMG RIPS kit. The rest of the kits have "v2" tacked on for marketing purposes (because of the funnyplaying GBA v2 IPS kit). If we paid attention to the actual versions, this kit would be anywhere from v4 to v12. 12:57 The unbranded kits have switched vendors to a new LCD supplier. Funnyplaying is still using LG screens but the unbranded kits (who I usually refer to as "one chip" because that seems to be the only consistent "branding" that they do have) have started using Toppoly LCD screens. Older kits may still use LG stock, especially the GBC kits. 20:01 This issue fixed was for audio related issues on some motherboard variants. 20:29 Yeah, this appears to the be same issue that Link's Awakening DX has in certain areas. The fence in the beginning one scree over from the chain chomp house displays the same issue. 23:26 I wonder if it's related to running the screen at a non-native refresh. Otherwise, I find it bizarre that both kits using completely differnt hardware to do the conversion would have behave similarly. 26:30 You should do yourself a favor and check out funnyplayings new IPS ready AGB housings and replacement buttons. It will change your mind on aftermarket buttons and shells. Unfortunately, only AGB has gotten this treatment so far but I've been told more systems are coming. 35:18 On the first GBA, a little bit of heat (like a hairdryer on high or a heatgun on low) will soften the adhesive and allow you to remove the lens with relative ease. Since you have a retrosix shell, adhesives have a hard time sticking to that coating and tend to not grab as strongly. It should be pretty painless to get that lens swapped out. The second GBA, you have a clearance issue or have cranked the screws down way too tight. A metal screwdriver is not the correct tool for removing these lenses, glass or plastic. A plastic spudger is better but a suction cup is best.

@mylifeingaming

3 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] Thanks for watching! I was actually considering reaching out to you for info, and it's clear that I should have! You've filled in a few gaps in knowledge for me here. Regarding the tearing on the GBC screens, I came to that conclusion as well - I was playing some game (can't remember for sure which one) where I was seeing more tearing than usual. When I was playing another later, I had the revelation that hey, wait - the screen turns WHITE during transitions even though WHITE isn't in the color palette I'm using! But for some reason, I wasn't getting tearing in some of the other games I was trying after those transitions. So I didn't manage to capture it, and I didn't want to say it was definitely because of the screen resetting because I couldn't recreate it. If I'd spent more time with it (and driven myself more insane) I could've probably done this, but I was feeling pretty done with all the new revelations I kept having, which kept causing my script to expand! VERY interesting that the issue FunnyPlaying was talking about was audio. I figured by "noise" they meant visual noise of some kind. That's deeply disappointing... if the dots issue were fixed, I'd definitely be tempted to get my own FunnyPlaying GBP. Sounds like I should wait a while to see what comes along though. I know it doesn't appear in very many games, but the fact that it occurs at all bothers me. Like, notice how the dots move with the logo as it appears. It feels like it's doing something unwholesome to the video generation rather than just displaying what it's told to display.

@TheRetroFuture

3 жыл бұрын

You can always trust Makho.

@sockatume

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting this! So few people know about the trimming pot and it can need adjusting throughout a GBA’s lifespan, and in my experience whenever a GBA SP’s battery is replaced. (It’s related to LCD depolarisation, IIRC?)

@makho

3 жыл бұрын

@Ulic Lon Dindong uhh, what?

@Lost_Kappa

3 жыл бұрын

Makho is the king of GB mods.

"We're by no means experts here." _Proceeds to explicitly explain, and troubleshoot 25 different forms of LCD Screen features, and issues using all of the required vocabulary._

@PUDINHED

3 жыл бұрын

It is a fair warning though, the market for these kits and components is constantly changing, it's hard to keep up the status of Expert for these things.

@gamingblowsofficial

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@waldineytorres8578

3 жыл бұрын

Try is truly humble.

@spragzpc1

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣😂

In this episode: Try slowly loses his mind

@SIKIZE

3 жыл бұрын

You say that as if he hasn't already

@dookie_12

3 жыл бұрын

Speck of dust: 1 Try: 0

@notNajimi

3 жыл бұрын

Isn’t that every RGB episode

@QuestForTori

3 жыл бұрын

@@theglowcloud2215 what the hell is the matter with you?

"I'm sorry I just made you notice." Bro that is the most real sentence for obsessive hobbyists that I've ever heard.

@eymed2023

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sorry. I'm THANKFUL someone opened my eyes. It's exciting how good you can make older games look with the right equipment.

9:55 To fix the interlaced effect on the AGS 101 screen (and any other Nintendo screen), there is a potentiometer screw you need to adjust. I can confirm this is found in every single GBA, GBA sp, NDS, NDS lite, DSi and DSi xl. It's also most likely found on the Gameboy, Gameboy Color, 3DS and 2DS, but I haven't checked/don't own these consoles to verify. When you turn this screw, it adjusts the voltage going to the screen to sync up the refresh (which causes the pseudo interlacing). It may take some trial and error, so I recommend adjusting it while the console is on to check. On the SP and DSi you can access the screw from the battery bay, and I assume all other models are the same. (Source: I fixed my OEM GBA SP 001 and DSi screens this way).

@RedSoul001

3 жыл бұрын

^this needs more likes

@longhairddingus6970

3 жыл бұрын

thank you!!!!

@badreality2

3 жыл бұрын

No way. So it's just a poorly set potentiometer?

@Brodensson

3 жыл бұрын

@@badreality2 Most likely. There are always exceptions, but 99.99% of the time this is the problem. You may even have to adjust it over time, as while it may start off okay, changes in the console (such as a battery change) can cause it to de-sync and require adjustment.

@badnewsjones

3 жыл бұрын

This has also been my experience. I had an original sp 101 and got an ags 101 from eBay, so I’m not sure of the screen’s origin. The eBay one displayed the interlacing issue and was fixed by adjusting the potentiometer, so now it looks exactly like my original sp 101 with no issues.

23:17 That IPS glitch is caused by overdrive trying to improve pixel response time by overcorrecting. There are LTT videos about it

@FoxbatStargazer

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed, see blurbusters for more explanation: blurbusters.com/faq/lcd-overdrive-artifacts/ Most flat panel computer monitors let you adjust this setting too.

@theIpatix

3 жыл бұрын

What suprises me though is the trailing effect stays quite a long time, so I doubt that is regular LCD overdrive. At least most LCD overdrives I have seen do not oscillate and stay for longer. My guess is that this is some kind of anti flicker circuitry (inside or the LCD or on the cable) which causes this.

@LawrenceJohnYoung

3 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't a pixel overdrive result in corona artifacts as the pixels overshoot their mark. They would also show up on any dark to light areas uniformly and not be triggered exclusively by specific game behaviors

@EGOS42

3 жыл бұрын

Thumbs up. I saw overdrive in action too. As some have stated there could also be anti-flicker in play. Perhaps identifying what's happening is muddied by multiple factors.

@3amsleep

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. This looks like overdrive

I can see myself playing Pokémon Emerald on the Gameboy Advance. That ips screen looks so beautiful on the GBA.

@kingarthur7255

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve got 3 funnyplayin kits and a one chip kit all v2 kits and they are all amazing worth every penny and so fun to install you won’t regret it they also look amazing even better in person

@dodongmanoy6653

2 жыл бұрын

Emulator is the best gba mods

Embedded software engineer here: I have this feeling that the artifacts are either related to a frame buffering gone wrong or there is a software error in the upscaling, that kind of artifact it's not LCD technology related, It's difficult to guess the refresh direction of a LCD but being a smartphone LCD I would wildly guess that is rotated 90 degree on the mounted axis, that mean that what we perceive as left to right artifact could be a temporal artifact up to down which seems consistent with a possible termporal buffer (you store 3 frames, the previus, the atcual and the next one and interpolate between them to avoid shimmering ).

Extremely thorough! I'm not interested in playing games portably because I usually get neck and/or upper back cramps looking down at the screen, but the way you presented the subject here kept me interested and I was fascinated throughout with your findings.

@mylifeingaming

3 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] Glad you enjoyed it! I was thought you'd never forgive me for the mixture of 30fps and 60fps camera footage (I didn't like it either), but felt it was necessary for an episode all about screen performance.

@videogameobsession

3 жыл бұрын

Joe, I find that playing my portables while laying in bed, so I'm "looking up" at them, can help quite a bit. I can still get some hand cramps though. It also sucks getting old.. my hyperopia (farsightedness) and astigmatism has become much more obvious to me when I hit 45. I have some prescription reading glasses on the way, but I'm not sure how much they will help with portable gaming. It's part of the reason I ordered an Analogue Pocket, I figure this way, if it's too hard to play on the portable screen, and I connect it to an external display.

@kaitlyn__L

3 жыл бұрын

@@videogameobsession oh dear :( I'm extremely myopic instead so I can't see more than two inches in front of me without glasses but that still accommodates using phones or consoles in bed without glasses on...

@retrogameroom9019

3 жыл бұрын

But where's dave

@nathanmilnthorpe11

3 жыл бұрын

I Find the Same thing with Neck/Back Pains and it sucks because most of the Handhelds have Awesome Games. Handheld Systems i Break my Rule of Emulation for this Reason, The Games Libraries Available are too good to Miss Sometimes!

I love these videos because they're so intensive that 95% of the audience wouldn't even notice or care about their findings. It took me a while to even notice the GBA Super Mario fading pixels. And even then, I don't see what the big deal is. I do appreciate you really doing a deep dive on these and hopefully one day you'll collab with one of these makers to make a perfect display.

@BLAZENYCBLACKOPS

3 жыл бұрын

Super Nicktendo lol, I was beginning to think I needed glasses because I really couldn’t see anything wrong, but the guy wearing glasses could.

@alistairblaire6001

3 жыл бұрын

It somehow seems trivial in the video but in real life it's really noticeable. Luckily I only see it in very specific situations and honestly it doesn't bother me. But it's definitely there, when I first noticed the weird dots and trails I thought I botched the install or damaged the ribbon. The thing is, these modern panels look so good compared to the older tech that it's totally worth the trade-off.

I really appreciate that - in the 'build section of the video - you were unafraid to show all the different types of problems you can - and many will - run into when putting together a custom Game Boy. The first time I put one together was an hour long affair, and you rarely see where things can go wrong on the typical build video since recording would tend to happen after nailing down the process, and when things just don't seem to be matching whatever video you're watching, it's easy to start to panic (especially when you start thinking of the investment in one of these projects). Assembling these custom Game Boy systems has been a lot of fun, but I can certainly see why someone would just want to buy a pre-modded unit to skip the trial and error, or to have a finished product without niggling cosmetic issues. This was a great and informative video on the entire subject, and one I have been eagerly awaiting since its mention on the GBA live stream. Thanks as always for a well researched and fantastic video!

Really enjoying this so far! Makes me so happy to see the f-zero “issue” that I would bet I was the first to encounter first in my video on the subject was picked up on by funny playing, and now by yourselves as such a big channel! I wish I had the time to produce such quality content! The GBA screens at least were originally created by funny playing, which were then cloned by others. Funny playing had posted proof of concept on their DMG concept first, but it seems they were beaten to it by others. I’m not sure if they just sell their product to be sold under different names, who knows. I cannot say for sure about anything though.

I've been watching these videos constantly over the last few months, and the comment section is always one of the most useful places on the internet. Your production quality is top notch!

This video was worth the wait! Thank you. I can also confirm what some other users said about turning a potentiometer to fix the "interlacing" problem when installing the AGS 101 screen mod. A life saver

When I installed an AGS-101 screen in my AGB, back when there were no IPS-kits, it also had this "interlacing" effect. I later learned, that this was caused by me using the wrong ribbon cable. I searched for a fix and found a scary one, that had you remove some resistors from the GBA board. I actually did that and now, the only issue I have left is the usual slow pixel response of 101 screens.

@Brodensson

3 жыл бұрын

Probably wasn't the ribbon cable, there is a potentiometer screw to adjust screen voltage, a few turns probably would've fixed it.

@seseiSeki

3 жыл бұрын

@@Brodensson Nope. I had already adjusted it. There's AGS-101-A screens and AGS-101-B screens. I had an A screen and a B ribbon cable.

@mylifeingaming

3 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] Yeah I decided to not get into the potentiometer stuff since it doesn't seem to be a factor with the new IPS kits, and that's the main subject. My understanding is that there are some AGS-101 screens that simply have this issue worse than others,even if you adjust the potentiometer.. I'll be curious to hear if Coury has good luck adjusting his, but it looks pretty extreme there. You can't see it on mine, so I have one of the good ones, it seems.

@Brodensson

3 жыл бұрын

@@seseiSeki I'm amazed it worked at all! I'm glad you fixed it though!

@DisneyTLK110

3 жыл бұрын

@@mylifeingaming I want to chip in and say the potentiometer is your friend here. It's extremely hard to adjust though, since even the slightest movement will change the voltage. Those lines will go away but only at one specific position, and it's very hard to hit it just right, since even when you remove the screwdriver from the pot, that'll change the value. The "B-type" ribbon cables do not let you adjust the potentiometer on the board, it instead uses fixed values on the ribbon itself. That's why I opted for the A-type ribbon cable, since I was having the interlacing issue with the B-cable. I found the easiest way to adjust this is to walk up and down in Pokemon ruby/sapphire while looking at a dark entrance, using a screwdriver through the hole behind the model-sticker on the back of the console, turning it every so slightly (the "sweet spot" is so small you have to basically stop moving the screwdriver to find it, it's that sensitive lol)

Tito's channel is always interesting to watch, he's a nice bloke and makes modding look easier than it actually is!

What a perfect summary! Thanks for discovering all off these imperfections. I'm sure it will be picked up by professionals and/or companies to make these screens more perfect

You guys really got into the nitty gritty with this one. Appreciate all the details. I recently picked up some IPS gameboys and I love them but they definitely aren’t perfect.

There's something pretty cool about the way you and Tito talk about retro hardware, and how Mahko muses/vents about it. Wish there was a convention for this sort of thing.

Fantastic video. I love the honesty. I’ve done a few she’ll swaps with really busted up systems all the way up to GBA SP. I haven’t done any soldering as of yet. So I really appreciate your honesty about this whole process from a novice view. When looking online a lot of people are almost chastising about people who are nervous about making such mods. I have so many GBA systems that I think I may give it a try to mod one. If I screw up, it won’t be as costly. Thanks so much!

I installed a TFT LCD in a GBC just a few weeks ago, gave it a custom matte white shell with all white buttons and d-pad and it's glorious and beautiful. I'm a modding noob, but the instructions were fairly straightforward. I'm very proud of the end product nonetheless! Great video, btw, and thanks for collabing with Macho Nacho! Now I have another channel to sink a ton of time into!

@mylifeingaming

3 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] His channel is filled with videos that will give you lots more fun mod ideas! I'll admit I'm tempted to try a "Game Boy Macro" sometime... but yeah, I'd be curious to try another panel type mod and see if I prefer it to these IPS ones.

Best content from this channel in months maybe all year. Back to your roots goodness. Need more and more often.

This was amazingly thorough bringing up things that no other reviewer has even touched. Thanks for all your work guys.

Really amazing camera and lighting work in this video. Showing the visible reality of the handheld screens is a tricky thing and this does it brilliantly.

I've never understood how this channel doesn't have a million subs. I've been watching for years. And find my self rewatching some videos multiple times

I have been watching Macho Nacho, the quality and presentation is great, deserves way more subscribers

@HamstarTG

3 жыл бұрын

Same! Glad to see they collaborated.

Oh, I’ve been waiting for this episode. Thanks guys.

Great episode, I love those close ups especially on the GBC. Was super weird to see no Retro Future in a Game Boy modding episode, who is a very prominent Modder / KZreadr on this scene.

Wow, this is extremely thorough! Was looking into modding my GBA, so the timing of this video is perfect!

This video is great. When I bought a replacement IPS screen a while ago most video reviews were like "this screen is absolutely great" even though there was visible tearing and dropped frames.

The "interlaced" look in some AGS 101 screens simply require a slight adjustment using the potentiometer of the GBA. At least, this is what solved the issue for all the times I've encountered it, and is a suggestion I often see in the internet community as well.

Talk about coincidence! I was in the process of refurbishing my own 30 year old Game Boy with a new shell and IPS screen when you published this video. Results are fantastic!!

The Game Boy scene is not my jam, but I LOVE how deep you guys get in your videos. Always excited whenever you release a new vid.

That was a really great video. I loved your perspective as open and honest on your experience with doing the mods. I now understand that I will not be doing it myself, which I am very grateful for! Maybe one day, but I think my lack of willingness to cut into any of my original hardware would be one of many issues.

Hey just to be clear. The funnyplaying ips screen is the exact same LCD as the generic ones (sold by retrosix). The LCD they use comes from an old blackberry, you can check the model numbers on the back. The screen are cheap and cost about $10. The only differences are the ribbon cables which house the brightness, color coordination, power, response and frame rates. Funnyplaying is by far the king

As you said, some of these issues happen aswel on regular screens but we were not able to notice them because the screens were not lit and the colors were not as crisp. Now that I’m older I notice some screen tearing and weird flicker on regular unmoded gameboys (mostly GBC and GBA)

Great video! The thing with most of the built-in flicker is that in especially early GBA games (sometimes on the GB too, though it was more common that devs would slow down the game to avoid ghosting), devs would abuse the qualities of the screen to create transparency effects. It's to the point that LCD ghosting is available on a couple of emulators now (and others "fix" it somehow). If you see something flicker like F-Zero's map or the slightly flickering effects in Golden Sun (which also used this quality on the World Map to make a sort of AA effect), it's supposed to be transparent. It's kinda sorta similar to the Sega Genesis's waterfall effects that involve certain TV setups.

@override7486

4 ай бұрын

No. It's not similar whatsoever. Two entirely different things and topics.

Thank you for doing the leg work on this. Wow, this hole goes much deeper than I ever thought.

I've recently done the IPS mod on a GameBoy Pocket, Colour and OG DMG. Fantastic bits of kit! They allowed me to revive two otherwsie completely broken Game Boys from parts I had laying around which only added to the joy of having done this. I've one more DMG I plan to IPS mod from parts as well :) So these mods are saving Game Boys everywhere!

What an incredible timing : I was about to buy this week a GBA Prestige Edition from Retrosix hoping to get the best picture quality I could get... and now I learn it's not perfect with artefacts I know I would be bothered with. Ok, I'll wait a little more. Thanks a lot !!

@RoyalFizzbin

3 жыл бұрын

I think I am going to hold out for the Analogue Pocket. It’ll probably be a few months until it’s available.

Awesome video! Apparently you also live in my town because Video Game World in Huntersville is my local retro game store.

Sumo Fighter for the gameboy! I love it! That was one of three games I had when I was a kid, and played the heck out of it!! Great video!!

i have been waiting for you guys to cover the gameboy, i am so happy

This was so great watching this video and seeing some gamers not take themselves too seriously. Made my night!

Thank you for this video. There are plenty of how-tos out there. I’m more interested in the differences between all these different screens

Yes! I'm so happy this video exists, I recently got into gameboy modding. These videos are so informative and entertaining ❤ Edit: I love that you collaborated with Macho Nacho Productions great to see two channels I love working together!

ooooh thank you for going back to the original intro theme! I heard a different one a few videos back and almost cried, lol!

@mylifeingaming

3 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] Analog Frontiers uses a different theme (from the same composer!) but we have no intention to change the theme of our regular episodes.

Read the description and found out your P.O. Box is in Indian Trail. And because of that, I’d like to extend my salutations from Matthews. That’s it. Also, great video.

I would love to get my GBC backlight modded in the future, but I’m not at all confident in my ability to do it myself. Even without soldering. Everything I touch breaks. Also congrats on the Skillshare sponsorship!

@anonymousidea9119

3 жыл бұрын

Gameboy Colors are (in my opinion) the easiest system from the gameboy line to completely disassemble besides maybe the original GBA (they're basically tied). Also, if you want an easier kit the easiest would probably be the latest BennVenn kit as you don't even need to modify the shell, although it might not be the best possible screen for you and you still would have to solder if you wanted to change the brightness.

Excellent video! I'm personally fine with the even brighter GBA SP model. Still looks good to this day

EXCELLENT video, wow, just thank you! Such a good overview of these screens!

I find it funny cause i love these reflective screens of the original, cause i like playing them in direct sunlight, in which most other screens are really quite dark.

Great video. I'd been considering a screen earlier this year but I hadn't heard about any of these issues

modded my gbc with an IPS screen some month ago and I LOVE it :)

Woohoo a new MLiG! And on a Sunday as well! Thanks for these absolute quality content videos guys.

Just an FYI, those "generic/unbranded" "1-chip" GBA kits that supposedly have the screen tearing issues, have been fixed for a while now. All the GBA kits perform pretty much identically now. The differences in the screen brightness etc, is down to the LCD panel they use. The "1-chip" kits use a cheaper panel by a company called "Toppoly" while the FunnyPlaying kits use LG panels.

@-Gothicgirl-

3 жыл бұрын

The 1 chip use less power then funny playing. FP drain immense power on full light

@Finnishmanni

3 жыл бұрын

so which are better? The toppoly's or FunnyPlaying's?

@-Gothicgirl-

3 жыл бұрын

@@Finnishmanni when I look at the Videos from mahko then the non fp is a bit better and less faulty

@AndehX

3 жыл бұрын

@@Finnishmanni the funnyplaying kit comes with the LG screen which is better

@oasdfe1691

3 жыл бұрын

Not actually correct. I've bought both kits and the model number for the LCDs were the same, both sceens used in blackberry phones

I have a backlit screen from Midwest Embedded, bought it a year ago. I'm REALLY happy with it. It's mostly the same as the BenVenn and McWill ones, but the shell is painted black, so it's not really SO important to get a new front glass to hide it.

I love your criticism and honesty here about who started producing these kits first.

Extensive review, liked it a lot. Would have loved a battery life comparison though...

Yay, Brand new RGB...and it’s on my favorite thing; Game boy mods. I need to watch the full thing to give full feedback, but based on your reputation, I know this will be really well done.

I really want you to try the ITA GBA. I think you'll be blown away by how amazing it is

I got an IPS screen cause this episode and I have LOVED IT! I always use CRT shaders for retro games, and for emulated handheld I love using the GB/C/A matrix overlays, and I have an AGB-101 with an amazing 101 backlit screen, I thought I'd prefer it do to the more "pixel" look, but I am using the IPS more honestly.

Great video! Nice attentiion to detail there - you've put me off getting an IPS screen lol.

@thiefrules

3 жыл бұрын

honestly, I'd still get one. i haven't noticed any of the issues he's pointed out to be honest, and the pixel grid on my 101 is so fatiguing to my eyes I go to my IPS GBA most of the time, even though I dislike the buttons on it.

Great video, love seeing all of these options. Think it’s time I get the Funny for my original GBA

Try's dog jumping on him to express his concern was the best part of the video...

This video hit at the perfect time for me. I ended up seeking out a good condition DSi XL so I could replay my favorite DS games on IPS panels and I was so satisfied with it I started to consider modding a GBA to experience similar. This does a lot to set my expectations of the final result, but ultimately I think I'll still do it! It sounds fun and I don't think the retention issues will bother me as much as the overall response. 👍

@mylifeingaming

3 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] I think that's a good choice! Expectations have a lot more to do with the opinions we form than I think people would like to admit. Had I known about all these issues before getting into it, I wouldn't have been as disappointed when I saw them. When you play a game that was good, but not as amazing as you were hoping for, you might have a poorer opinion of it than a very average game that turned out to be more fun than you were expecting. That happens to me, at least.

@vladg5216

3 жыл бұрын

You can play the entire GBA library on your gorgeous DSI XL if you simply mod it. The DSI plays GBA games natively, it just doesn't have a physical game slot. With a mod, you can play the entire library off an SD card.

@AngryGhost114

3 жыл бұрын

@@vladg5216 Thanks for the tip! I looked into it and although my original want was to use actual carts, it's always good to have options! I just tried it out for a few, and there's some compatibility issues and sound issues on some games, but when a game works it looks great! Now I get to ponder why in the hell they decided to leave the gba slot out of the DSi in the first place... Such a shame. :(

Your mannerisms are like Marshall on How I Met Your Mother. I love it :)

Such a passionate, honest and genuine host along with entertaining content. I am glad I came across this video. *Subscribed*

As someone who just started going down the rabbit hole that are game boy mods, I thank you, sir.

I’ve done a few of these ips screens for my different gameboy and gbas. For me I enjoy the tinkering side of things and it’s really not that difficult to do but I do recommend using a reproduction precut shell to save time, frustration and to ensure a better fit for the ips screen

Oh man I’m so excited for this!!!

I really adore your vids! For an older gamer like me ( almost 50 ) this is really an essential channel. Would love to see more collaboration with Digital Foundry ( John ). That would be really awesome 😎

I've spent a lot of quarantine learning mods. It can be frustrating, but that feeling when you actually get it to work (and not have any dust) is such an amazing feeling. I do need to warn about repro buttons on the GBC and GBA, there's an imperfection on some that make it so you can press down all the D-pad buttons at once and causes problems. You need to make sure it has a rounded bottom not a flat bottom.

I've always wanted to modify some of my old handhelds like this. After being an IT tech for so long, I at least have the basic skill I'm sure. Thanks for the video! Loved the content. Subscribing for sure.

Super cool! I'd love to have a backlit screen on a Game Boy! I skipped getting a Game Boy back in the day because it didn't have a backlit screen. I did get a Game Boy Advance, but the store I got it from packed in a light that clamped to the top of the GBA. I might be tempted to get a pre-modded Game Boy from someone. Not sure if I want to try to do it myself. I like to tinker with hardware, but on a much larger scale in PC cases.

I imagine this has lead to Try being put into a padded room while wearing a straight jacket muttering to himself "image retention, image retention" over and over. Seriously through, this was very helpful information. I had plans on upgrading my original DMG but think I'll wait for now. Thanks the stellar content guys!

@mylifeingaming

3 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] You're closer to the truth than you might think! I really was driven mad by this video! You know the "Tetris effect" where people keep seeing Tetris blocks after playing Tetris for a long time? Well, the image retention segment was the last part of the video I finished, and I kid you not, last night I was seeing flicker and ghosted objects in my peripheral vision on my computer monitors and TV. Trying to understand how all of it behaved made me feel a bit unwell! I was actually considering tacking on a a hastily shot cell phone video at the end, me sitting dejectedly in the corner, staring into the distance lifelessly, muttering about flicker, retention, ghosting...

Thank you so much. I was so close to ordering all the parts from Handhald Legends, but now I'm convinced I need to wait a little while longer. €100 saved. Also, thanks for addressing the issue that non-original membranes and buttons can make the haptics feel off. I was afraid of exactly that happening.

@mylifeingaming

3 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] I think this still will hopefully be in a much better state within a couple or years, but yeah, I'd hold off! I don't know a ton about choosing parts... I'm sure there is some good repro stuff out there. That metal shell and buttons are pretty awesome! I forget if Tito said whether the GBC used the original membranes or not. Obviously those can wear out (some SNES ones of mine went bad), but for the most part I've not had bad ones. I did buy replacement SNES ones, and I liked them at first (even said so in a video) but after further use, I'm not satisfied. The diagonals work very poorly, so now I always check a Contra game when testing a new controller to see if I can comfortably hold diagonal shots, or if diagonals are triggered too easily when I meant to hold up/down/left/right instead. It's a weirdly fine line on that stuff, and amazing that so much thought was put into the original controllers so that they feel good to aim in every direction.

Awesome! I would like to see how you display your gameboy, color, and gba games. I see you have something new.

@mylifeingaming

3 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] The new shelves for my Game Boy games are these, but I had to modify them. Had to add boards in the middle and felt strips in the front so the games would be able to lean back and not slide out. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZ8Q78N/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I installed a FunnyPlaying V2 screen into an original GBA using a replacement shell molded to fit them w/o modding. Looks fantastic and haven't noticed any issues aside from a tiny amount of light bleed from outer edge of the lens due to using a clear smoke shell after a month of regular use. I definitely prefer the new IPS to my old AGS-101 which had the flicker issue, and had awful ghosting.

Thankfully I now have experience with doing joycon shell replacements so this is up my alley

Definitely need to send you my CleanScreen TFT for GBA in a few weeks. Fixes all known issues including color, ghosting, tearing, response time, original screen size and more. Would be great to get your advanced breakdown and see if I did a good job or not.

I still have my AfterBurner frontlight modded GBA AGB-001. I had such a great time using it after playing a dark GBA for so long, as well as successfully installing it myself, even with the brightness settings, that I haven't had the heart to remove it. A few years ago I bought an AGS-101 modded GBA AGB-001, with replacement parts/glass lens model from China. It was only $68 shipped at the time, and looks/plays excellent. The screen looks nearly identical to the DS Lite, to me. The pixels look great to me, and I don't notice any weirdness, aside from a little noticeable audio buzz through the headphone jack, when the volume is turned up. Not too bad though.

Fire video man. Love this. I just finished mine and yeah the stress is real.

Great video, I just found out I have two GBA SPs so I might be looking into modding one of them for the fun of it.

In regards to the flickering retention, this doesn't happen on cycle-accurate emulators or consolizers/fpga/clones using modern IPS, TN, or VA panels. Furthermore, as you've seen, original hardware displays generally don't have this issue either. Mind you the implementations above might have a sync fix for these images, but more likely this is a result of some post-processing issues or very low quality displays being used in these kits. I'm going to bet on the latter, mostly because you've experienced severe ghosting mixed with inconstant redraw of the screens framebuffer.

The image on the gameboys are so clear, I thought it is edited. Major improvement for old handhelds.

Love the video! I been modding gameboys for awhile now.

Great video. After rummaging the idea I think I’ll wait. Green screen for now.

Nice video :) Great work as always :)

Lol cute dog, just wanted to make sure you weren't choking.

I have no intention of risking my original game consoles to mod their screens because it is irreversible and is not for me personally, also partly because I can play the games using a TV with original hardware. Definitely interesting to see a lot of work going into these modifications and still, great videos as usual!

@mylifeingaming

3 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] These mods are definitely reversible if you don't cut the original shell and use a reproduction shell instead.

Awesome video! I'd love to see a vid on Neo Geo Pocket system screen replacements

I bought a Game Kiddy, over other emulation handheld because the reviews found it to have the best screen. It has a 320x240 IPS screen, and Genesis games, CPS1, CPS2 games look so good. As well as other systems. You can still see the pixel dots, but that adds to it.

The ags-101 "interlace effect" is due to the potentiometer needing adjusting just behind the main sticker on the back of the original GBA. The reason factory/nintendo fitted ags-101's dont do this is because they are adjusted/calibrated at the factory when new. Obviously when you retro fit one into a GBA(especially the older model) the potentiometer is sometimes way out of whack. I adjusted mine manually as it was just like coreys...it took me 10 seconds to dial it in and completely eradicate this effect.

@JeffYPbPr

3 жыл бұрын

How do ya do that.

@totalprocall6894

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeffYPbPr Its a screwhole behind the main sticker on the back(far right of the sticker) and you simply take a screwdriver of the proper size(nothing out of the ordinary) and gently and slowly turn until you see the flicker/lines gone. Really easy but the only pain is you either have to leave a hole in the sticker or attempt to re-apply it. Alternatively just order a new sticker when done.

@JeffYPbPr

3 жыл бұрын

@@totalprocall6894 ok so it does not require removing the back shell?

@Brodensson

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeffYPbPr As long as you don't mind removing the sticker, no. But if you want to keep the sticker on, yes.

@Brodensson

3 жыл бұрын

I can also confirm this potentiometer is on every single Nintendo console from GBA - DSi XL, and most likely on all 3DS, GB and GBC consoles (but I can't confirm those consoles).

I love theses videos so much, I have been able to research and form my own opinion and learn so much from These video!

Is mild AGS-101 mod flickering(mostly only happens when the screen is moving, noticed it bad with my Suicune hunt in crystal) a symptom of incorrect voltage on the trimpot or my ags-101 screen just being a funny one?

Been watching for awhile now and am always hungry for more MLiG episodes but this one was uncharacteristically harsh. I think one of the important things to note about these mods is by and large they are a huge leap over the non-backlit OEM screens in that you can actually play your favorite games without being tethered to a light source and they aren't missing 15 lines of pixels. Now we would all love to have GBA consolizers (myself included) but the facts are those are near impossible to get. I've been trying and failing since they first started pre-orders and am I still angry about how limited they are. If you weren't lucky or prestigious enough to land one of those these IPS kits are the next best thing. The facts are the facts and you made some great observations, stuff I hadn't noticed logging hours on my own modded portables, but I feel you did give these kits an unfair grade in the end because you have other ways to play your favorite games on these systems. At least they are all integer scaled, sadly I can't say the same about the McWill kit I installed in my Game Gear. Despite all its flaws the McWill kit is still better than the OEM screen IMHO but I would love to see someone tackle an integer scaled screen for GG and would happily upgrade when/if they do.

@mylifeingaming

3 жыл бұрын

[Try4ce] I totally respect that. I was very curious to see the reactions here because I knew I was more negative in this episode that usual. I wasn't being negative just for the sake of it though, I mean, it's just how I felt. I was frustrated and disappointed. You're right, they are a heck of a lot more visible than the OEM screens, and that's really why I normally go to the AGS-101, it's just easier to play than a DMG or GBC. But I guess here's my point of view: if you're asking me to swap out the screen, I'd like it to be a straight upgrade in all regards. I'm the kind of guy who might play an RPG and if I see a piece of equipment that gives me +10 in one stat, but -3 in another... but another piece gives me only +5 in one stat, but no negatives... I'd go for the +5. It's a straight upgrade. No trade-offs. In other words, I'd have taken a screen with less good black levels than these screens and blur that's more comparable to AGS-101 if they didn't have those weird ghosting patterns or image retention. These screens are great and useful mods in a lot of ways, don't get me wrong. But no one is talking about some of the downsides, and I thought it was important to bring that to light, especially considering how surprised and bothered I was by some of them. But thankfully, a lot of people have said that they are still going to buy one, but are glad they know what to expect ahead of time. That's great! I just wanted to put something out there to help people manage expectations, because most people are saying they're perfect (which is fair, most people probably don't look at these things as obsessively as I do). But if people understand what they're paying for, and understand that it's not necessarily the Game Boy endgame for screen mods just yet, they'll probably appreciate the results more than I did!

@firebrand2.032

3 жыл бұрын

@@mylifeingaming I appreciate the response these are all good points and don't get me wrong the video was great and I agree with the observations and points you are making and always appreciate how thorough MLiG reviews are but I was a bit surprised. Surprised enough to have a knee jerk reaction as I typically don't take the time to debate this sort of stuff online. I have been modding for a long time and have a closet full of things like the GBA Afterburner that were disappointing to say the least so I definitely respect the fact that folks like yourself are putting this stuff out there but I also feel that for the first time we are seeing some pretty damn solid solutions to difficult problems that are finally worthy of people's time and money. The big players like Boxypixel, funnyplaying, and RetroSix have raised the bar substantially and their solutions are not only accessible but they won't break the bank unless you go all in. Believe me, I would drop the $170 on a GBA consolizer and the $400 on the analogue pocket tomorrow and call it a day if those were accessible solutions (I have already tried and failed) but the sad reality is they aren't, not even close. I lost a lot of respect for those folks especially Analogue after their hilariously limited pocket release so I decided to give these new IPS kits a go and have been impressed by the quality versus value. I certainly have not spent $570 on upgrading a GBC, GBA and GB but I hear ya and agree without a guide the road for first timers can be bumpy, disappointing and expensive. What warranted the response from me was the call at the end to sort of steer clear of these solutions for the time being and that sort of blew my mind. MLiG has been a game changer for me, without you guys I would have never gotten into the RGB scene. It certainly reignited my love for all of the old games and systems I grew up with but it wasn't perfect either. The point I guess I am trying to make is sometimes it is worth giving something a shot even if it isn't perfect because it may just ignite that fire and get you into a fun new hobby. Looking back, if someone had come along and discouraged you guys from getting into RGB when you did by saying, "just wait it is bound to get better" do you think it would have been worth waiting? If the solutions now are solid enough why wait? I watched a lot of great videos by Macho Nacho and This Does Not Compute but I had been waiting patiently for a response from MLiG and was honestly surprised it ended up being heavily focused on the negative points. If this had been a 2 hour special on IPS and general portable options I would have still watched it at least twice and enjoyed every second of it so don't think that just because everyone else has covered this stuff people won't watch. I'd rather watch you guys no matter the subject.

@firebrand2.032

3 жыл бұрын

@@mylifeingaming Sorry I am back, just wanted to point out that I got my GBA IPS kits from Console5 and ran the 240p tests and they do not exhibit the ghosting you discovered in your builds so maybe they aren't official funnyplaying kits? I am curious what is up and will some additional testing on my own but I won't bother you anymore. My GBC build is a funnyplaying IPS so I will test that as well.

What a coincidence, I'm waiting on a new backlit IPS screen for my GBA right now. Already got a new shell myself. This will be my first hardmod, aside from swapping Joy-Con sticks for a repair, or doing a new shell.

21:58 That is exactly what I see when i'm hatching eggs in Pokemon Emerald / Ruby / Sapphire. Because the fence that you ride by on the bike ghosts like that. It's really offputting lol

The flickering on de agb101 screens are due to the screen not receiving the right voltage, sometimes just whiring a cable to the ribbon to a specific part of the board to level the voltage can fix it other times just pray. The image retention on the ips kit noticeable on plain colors specially on Pokemon when you run, but those screens at least for me are much better than the original 101 screens. I've modded a lot of consoles includin installing chips on ps2 and the new modchip for the Switch wich you solder directly on de SOC of the console and still keeping dust getting inside when changing lenses or touchpanels are the hardest thing by far and one of the more frustrating things about changing screens on portables. Thank you for the effort and love you put on your videos.