Who woulda thought that Zach would be the one to cause the most drama on his season.

@thehousespouse

Жыл бұрын

Plot twist: Zach isn’t against drama. He just won’t tolerate anyone else steeling his thunder

@anita7486

Жыл бұрын

Ariel respected that Zack said no sex. She is stunning and could have used her beauty to seduce and she didn't. Obviously the conversation was great,and they stuck to exploring their possible future. Gabby has zero respect for the other women & Zero respect for Zack. She was 1st and not 2nd in the sex category, so she 'won' Funny how now she uses guilt & blame & zero responsibility. Gabby's father was awesome. He knew his wife was the won when he first saw her.31+ years later...still married.

@ThatGmoney

Жыл бұрын

This is the thing. You can say one thing and do another. It’s like people are holding pitch forks that this guy is cheating on them when the game show format is built on 30women to one man. Ya, give the guy a hard time when he paraded “no sex” at the same time. Are you in contract, committed relationship? Let’s break that down. There’s so much pressure for a human being to be perfect. That’s not right. Relationships, the strong and healthy ones are built upon interaction and interaction. Now, if the interactions AFTER Zach admitting and being honest he was upfront and yes, be upset. Don’t dismiss your feelings and Zach better not dismiss those feelings either. After filming, this is where you need to take that huge step back and really take the relationship slow. If Zach or yourself (OR ANY COUPLE) have issues like poor attachment or that addiction to honeymoon phases “limerance” get help (therapy) and work it through but also be aware you don’t enable each other. Even if both parties don’t see eye-to-eye, you have to give it your all, your best to out I. That effort so you can see why it did fall apart OR it did succeed. WB horizon might have the perfect format to PERFECT what this game show is, but amazing relationships don’t start off “after the final rose” probably like five years AFTER the final rose.

@ThatGmoney

Жыл бұрын

@@anita7486 also, having a dad as a hopeless romantic. You’re teaching your kid to have relationship addiction. It’s like watching Rachel from Gabby’s season.

@nicholasgarrick8855

Жыл бұрын

Zach seemed proud of being able to nip drama in the bud with the girls on his season ,but he really was no match for the producers. They got him good😂.

The biggest plot twist of the season was that the drama that Zach was avoiding all season was himself all along.

@barbararivera5160

Жыл бұрын

😂

@daisylucy2

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!! He should have kept his mouth SHUT.

@kohlinoor

Жыл бұрын

The call was coming from inside the house, who'd have thunk....

@ladyshakespeare286

Жыл бұрын

RIGHTTTTTT

@ccondotta9630

Жыл бұрын

It me, hi, I’m the problem it’s me. 🎶

Ariel left like the queen she is with not a single tear shed She's gonna be a hot commodity in paradise.

@azplaysgames7837

Жыл бұрын

💯

@abovewater6918

Жыл бұрын

I don't think she was very invested in the relationship haha

@xxmakeuplover05xx

Жыл бұрын

She's too good for the men that would be in paradise.

@inhaleexhale

Жыл бұрын

I'd much rather see her get her own season as The Bachelorette.

@dmnicmos3100

Жыл бұрын

@@xxmakeuplover05xx She's too good for Zach.

I literally didn’t know she was Canadian until she said “surry” 20 times in a row

@bethsiler2023

Жыл бұрын

lol

@Userhandleidk

Жыл бұрын

I physically cringed

No one wins on the Bachelor. It seems to me that Ariel was the lucky one.

@kittyhazes5741

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!!!

@kparsa1

Жыл бұрын

Ariel is better off being let go so she can be the next bachelorette. Maybe have some fun in mexico as well.

@kparsa1

Жыл бұрын

@@countessofmontecristo3849 I didn't mean this season but possible in the future. What do you mean by you people? (jk)

@juliecopelandbarrows2971

Жыл бұрын

Ariel is the most amazing woman. I pray she finds her Prince, someone worthy of her love.

ZACHS FACE WHEN GABI SAID “I DIDNT REALIZE YOU WERE SO BOTHERED “ 😂😂

BY FAR one of the most awkward Bachelor episodes I have ever watched. Zach kinda just threw everyone’s feelings in a blender this episode, and it was a mess. I don’t know if it’s as rough as Clayton saying he’s in love with 3 women but it was definitely spoiled his record for saying no to drama. I guess self control IS dead on the bachelor.

@DottieMinerva

Жыл бұрын

Not to be too judgmental (lol who am I kidding) but he’s come across as a little self centered the entire season. I get he’s the bachelor but the women are real people, not side characters to his story.

@pamroberts340

Жыл бұрын

Probably in the minority here, but I seem to be picking up a Clayton vibe from Zach. I also don't like the way he felt the need to share his bedroom 'hijinks' with the world 😮

@Jessica-yd3ld

Жыл бұрын

@@DottieMinerva totally agreed!

@roxannecoffey5428

Жыл бұрын

Speaking of awkward -- Zach couldn't even say what they did when he was talking to Gabi -- maybe he didn't want to call it "making love" but jeez Louise if you can't say what you did, maybe you shouldn't have done it.....

@oscarmasias7616

Жыл бұрын

@@DottieMinerva exactly👍 his last season I couldn't tell if he was just really nervous or really fake & (not to be mean) this season cleared that up.. his actions tell us all we need to know about what he thinks & how he thinks - and what he wants

So after Gabi tearfully explained to Zack how much being "second choice" worried her, he has sex with her and then at the rose ceremony gives her the Second rose!!!! Are you kidding me!!!!

@ms.blingthang755

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! And he wouldn’t even look at her at the rose ceremony. Just kept looking at Kaity.

@kayallan5191

Жыл бұрын

He is a misogynist

If i were gabi I would send myself home. It’s SO obvious he prioritizes kaity and her feelings and not gabi’s. Even she can tell. She’s setting herself up for heartbreak

@vanessahobbes3072

Жыл бұрын

I hope she does. I feel like that would make this finale epic. Also I really just don’t want to see her get sent home (even though I like Katie and think that’s who will end up with). The “second thing” has my heart breaking a little for her.

@misosoup846

Жыл бұрын

@@vanessahobbes3072 exactly! Her not being chosen at the end would mean again that she was chosen second. Zach couldn’t have at least handed out the first rose to her? It would’ve showed that he heard her and values how she felt.

@jld4870

Жыл бұрын

Has there ever been any previews with Gabi meeting Zach’s fam?

@AnaPie896

Жыл бұрын

@@misosoup846 I fully feel like he did that on purpose and that if he hadn’t slept with her she woulda gone home instead of Ariel. It would have been better if Zach just saw how each date went with each individual woman instead, like Hannah Brown did on her season

@fluffytail6355

Жыл бұрын

Both those chicks should leave

I can't fault Gabby for wanting their decision to be a mutual decision made in private and not a unilateral decision Zach made on camera under duress from the producers.

@B_Bodziak

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. For him to tell Katie at the beginning of their date when she was clear she didn't want to know shows his emotional maturity is that of a prepubescent boy. Then, he goes and tells her which woman he was intimate with! Gabby needs to work on her self-esteem but Zach STILL doesn't deserve her. Katie showed her true colors when she made her snide-y remark to Gabby after the rose ceremony following the fantasy dates. Katie isn't the sweet young lady she (and producers/editing) has tried to portray herself as being.

@jenny_447

Жыл бұрын

i’m honesty surprised as many people are supporting her. knowing that she is the second date and saying he’s not test driving cause he knows he wants a porsche…then saying “zach and i are very…excited😏he’s says he’s not going to have sex, but idk…maybe he will” all with a smirk. if a guy said all that about the bachelorette, bachelor nation would be chewing him up.

@NathanMellor

Жыл бұрын

@@jenny_447 Maybe not everyone is believing her edit - the sound bytes the producers are putting together to make her look like a villain.

@samanthashea6359

Жыл бұрын

Naaaaah. Zach set a boundary, she made it very clear she intended to push said boundary - then was upset that Zach was upset when the boundary was crossed. She really shot herself in the foot there. I have zero sympathy for her.

@justme7255

Жыл бұрын

If Zach had a boundary it's no one's business other than the person he told it to. It's always a choice between both parties and for both to agree or not to discuss it. if you can't handle what this last few episodes of this show is about you don't need to be there.

It’s SO frankenbitten when Gabi says “Zach says he’s not having sex” off face, and then “maybe we will” on face. They clearly got the itm footage before he told her and are using it to make her look manipulative! That is gross!

@mamiej8481

Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU for putting this out here! Close-listeners of this show would be able to pick this out. Production often frankenbites ITM's to fit their narrative so often and it can be unnecessarily damaging. I feel so terrible for Gabi and I hope she is doing okay.

Shouldn’t he have gone to Ariel and apologized to her first? Kaity knew absolutely nothing of his original plan and now her feelings were hurt for no reason and date ruined, wow

@bt2598

Жыл бұрын

Exactly - I believe Ariel has confirmed she didn’t know as she has been leaving shady comments like “downvote” on pictures of her and Zach.

@kohlinoor

Жыл бұрын

That's the weird thing... I guess he showed his cards as to who he cares for most/wants to hurt the least... Sadly, Ariel had to be blindsided but the final rose decision and some later nasty surprises.

@emilyhess323

Жыл бұрын

i don't think he felt the need to do that as he knew from the start that he wouldn't be giving Ariel a rose at the end of the week. he only went to explain it to kaity because he knew it would come back up at some point.

@jdoe754

Жыл бұрын

I think his best move would have been to, later that night when they were alone, explain to her that he thought he had one expectation for the week but understands that he’s realized it might be something she needs to continue exploring and furthering their relationship and wants to respect how she feels and would like to openly discuss intimacy with her to make the best decision for them. From there he should have had a one on one convo with Ariel and apologize for his unrealistic expectation and probably shouldn’t have put her through a rose ceremony.🤷🏻‍♀️

@xxmakeuplover05xx

Жыл бұрын

Seriously! Where was Ariel's FORMAL apology???

If Zach really does pick Kaity,then this is just going to be awful for Gabbi because she has said many times she’s been chosen 2nd before.

@AP-vo2mp

Жыл бұрын

It might hurt initially, but she will know the truth in her heart that she deserves to be #1.

@fluffytail6355

Жыл бұрын

She should be used to 2nd place by now. She needs therapy more than she needs a man. What a head case.

@kellsjoy3078

Жыл бұрын

And she will be famous for being the only one to "give in". However, her own statement before hand suggested that his mind was going to be changed.

@B_Bodziak

Жыл бұрын

@@kellsjoy3078 He STILL should not have told Katie he slept with Gabby nevermind millions of viewers. Gabby needs to work on her self esteem but she's still too good for him.

I’m so glad Katie said exactly what I was thinking. Intimacy is a known factor of this week and it didn’t need to be talked about because that just makes it all worse.

@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343

Жыл бұрын

And what bothers me about it is that Kaity has openly talked about loyalty and the difficulties with that in her past relationships. And now she has to deal with Zach telling her to her face that he broke his promise of no sex and with that all over again.

@laurieemme1534

Жыл бұрын

FACTS.

@jdoe754

Жыл бұрын

@@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 I think his best move would have been to, later that night when they were alone, explain to her that he thought he had one expectation for the week but understands that he’s realized it might be something she needs to continue exploring and furthering their relationship and wants to respect how she feels and would like to openly discuss intimacy with her to make the best decision for them. From there he should have had a one on one convo with Ariel and apologize for his unrealistic expectation and probably shouldn’t have put her through a rose ceremony.🤷🏻‍♀️

@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343

Жыл бұрын

@@jdoe754 I agree. That to me would have handled the situation in a way that put the decision and power into her hands without totally crossing the line with Gabi.

@thatgirlinautumn5995

Жыл бұрын

I mostly feel bad for Gabi. She most definitely is going to get the brunt of the s***-shaming when he could have dealt with all of that in private (because, you know, fantasy suites and all). Feel like she didn’t get much of a say in that

I might be alone in this but I feel so bad for Gabi. They shared an intimate night and it seems like they had agreed to keep it secret and then he just told the entire nation plus the other girls without running it by her FIRST. He did this solely to save his own ass and sacrificed Gabi‘s feelings in the process. It’s honestly really messed up. I would feel beyond betrayed and angry if my business was put on blast like that

@kaileim970

Жыл бұрын

I thought he did have a conversation with Gabi before his date with Kaity and told her he would be disclosing?

@Scrappicat

Жыл бұрын

@@kaileim970 He did.

@josephine108

Жыл бұрын

​@@kaileim970 It's the fact that Zach revealed it in front of cameras in THAT conversation that upset Gabi in the first place. She had no clue he was going to talk about it with her one on one, in front of the cameras. Watching it back, I'm sure it might be a bit more mortifying for her to know now he shared out loud even before this conversation, with Jesse when he left her in the morning.

@angelapolly1

Жыл бұрын

You’re not alone.

@angelapolly1

Жыл бұрын

@@kaileim970 too late at that point! The cameras were already rolling.

If you would've told me Zach's "Mold Wine" moment was from The Office, I absolutely would've believed you.

If you’re a week away from an engagement , you shouldn’t be having sex with anyone but the one you’re getting engaged to, unless you’re a serial cheater …

@bt2598

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Makes total sense

@abandonablesnowman

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think it’s wrong for the lead to sleep with the final two, because in real life you’re also not going on dates with multiple people. The sex is just an extension of these parallel relationships. I do think the lead should send home their #3 pick though, if they already know that’s the plan

@kittyhazes5741

Жыл бұрын

He will probably pick Gabbi

@lunarsugar

Жыл бұрын

Maybe this isn't the show for you then?

@sbusisiweshaba1715

Жыл бұрын

@@abandonablesnowman What's the importance in sleeping with the final two? I don't get it.

I think you hit the nail on the head when you said Zach may have decided to be intimate with Gabi to comfort and make her feel special. But as soon as he did that AND confessed to Kaity for forgiveness it was doomed. Either his choice is G, and K will have been forced to listen to his confession and put a lot of effort in forgiving him for nothing, OR his choice is K and then she'll have to deal with his betrayal, while G will have been used and picked second after being so vulnerable.

@CC12203

Жыл бұрын

I think the way he handled the conversations shows he will pick Kaity and you make such good points here. It is probably going to end badly for Gabbi and if it continues going the way it is, this will all just validate her worst fears and insecurities. I feel for her but maybe she will self eliminate and tell him off. I just don’t know how it will happen. The way they marketed the season to us as having a love story and finally getting back to the roots of the show…um…if Gabbi is completely devastated, not sure how everyone will be fully happy for Kaity and Zack.

@fluffytail6355

Жыл бұрын

@@CC12203 both of those chicks should leave him. Kaity is still pissed - even though she said she forgives him, she won’t forget. Gabi is always 2nd place even after having seggs with him. Why don’t both of these dummies leave him there?

@blueshoes915

Жыл бұрын

To be fair though, he stated to Gabi he did not want to have sex and she basically took it as a challenge instead of respecting it and helping him keep that commitment. Which is definitely not ok.

@Miranda-gi9fx

Жыл бұрын

​@@blueshoes915 She did not force herself on him either. He could have turn her down and he didn't.

@maryfischer875

Жыл бұрын

She did not give him a pill and render him unconscious. He was a consenting participant.

Did anyone else notice that Zach made THE FACE when Gabi shared her doubts on the beach? He almost sent her home right there and then, but then she said it wasn't about him and reaffirmed her affection, so instead he slept with her. Then Kaity obviously was very unhappy and concerned, but when she told him he was worth it, it was all good again!

@bt2598

Жыл бұрын

A mess!

@joshsinglefooter

Жыл бұрын

Zach is a simp. She pulled away from him at that point by telling her he has to tell everyone. Not masculine at all.

@lexigraham4600

Жыл бұрын

No not at all, he seemed to really care what she was saying and look concerned ab how she felt

@mochalatte8202

Жыл бұрын

Omg I didn't see your comment before I commented on someone else's post. But I saw it!!! The look he gave her was the same exact look he gave other women the second he lost interest because they were unagreeable or "drama" and then sent them home. When Gabi brought that up he immediately got defensive and upset and had that dumb look. If I was Gabi I wouldn't even show up to the final rose. He didn't even look at her at the end of this episode.

@mochalatte8202

Жыл бұрын

​@Lexi graham I was shocked at how he reacted when she brought that up honestly. I feel like if he cared about how she was feeling, he wouldn't have gotten so defensive in the moment. The way he came across was def like he did with women in the past where he sent them home right then and there. It's like he didn't want to be the one to blame and if she was blaming him then f her. >that's just the vibes I got from his defensiveness. But now I need to rewatch that scene in full

I believe everyone should be able to have their own opinion about how important sex is in a relationship. I am a little shocked by the women’s response to Zach because if the roles were reversed everyone would be up in arms if a man responded to a woman this way about sex. “If you set a standard of no sex then you are probably going to.” “Looks like we are not going to have sex…or are we?” I just didn’t expect them to not immediately respect Zach’s boundaries he set. That’s what the men would be expected to do if it was a bachelorette. It’s just a little surprising.

@TheFrenchiecb

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was shocked by that too - Gabby kinda disappointed me with that because if my partner said sex was off the table, I'd honour that with no questions asked. But it seemed she went into that night with no intention of honouring his commitment, and that was really off-putting to see.

@DottieMinerva

Жыл бұрын

It’s weird to me because why would they want to have sex if that meant he was going to be having sex with the other two back to back? That’s really not intimate at all and I’d rather wait.

@jpFlorida

Жыл бұрын

It was SO crazy! I just watched back Tyler Camerons episode with Hannah and it was so easy to do it the right way "hey I respect you as a person and if you don't want to do that I want to honor and respect that"

@grizzlygoldman

Жыл бұрын

OH MY GOD THANK YOU YOU’RE THE FIRST PERSON IVE SEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS and I was SO upset about it watching last night! It’s just so disrespectful

@grizzlygoldman

Жыл бұрын

Also thank you to everyone else in this thread I hadnt noticed all the other soul-affirming comments before shouting my thanks lol

There’s nothing that’s a bigger turnoff than a man who grovels and apologizes over and over again for doing something he wanted to do. He should be apologizing to Gabi, but instead he keeps calling it a mistake that he had sex with her. That’s way worse than just owning it and saying it’s what he wanted to do.

@abandonablesnowman

Жыл бұрын

When he said to Kaity that things have “evolved” since then 😂😂

@CC12203

Жыл бұрын

If he were going to pick Gabbi, he would not be calling it a mistake.

@belindacarter6872

Жыл бұрын

How hurtful that tirade about the mistake he made must have felt to Gabi - I’m disgusted

@TheMadisonFields

Жыл бұрын

Can he b cancelled this is ridiculous goodbye ! Those women need to leave his sorry butt

@mrfake675

Жыл бұрын

It's a mistake that no one wants to hear about because it makes them uncomfortable.

Kaity's lips don't move for "I know you were the only on,' Gaby intentionally puts the rose in front of her mouth so you can't see what she's saying, and then Kaity looks directly at the camera. They're so uncomfortable, so aware of being recorded. LADIES, BLINK TWICE IF YOU NEED HELP.

Honestly thought that Gabi would be the final pick but after this week I think it’s Kaity. I don’t think Zach would’ve risked hurting gabi if he really loved her/saw a future with her. He knew the consequences of having sex during fantasy suites and did it anyways with her. Not the most loving choice if he really wanted to preserve their relationship

@josephine108

Жыл бұрын

I think when he told Gabi he was falling in love with her in that one on one conversation it was a genuine expression, you could see it on his face, but after he told Kaity about that night and she didn't have a favorable reaction like he thought, he might've lost that feeling for Gabi a bit because he was caring a lot about Kaity in her distress. So, he called Kaity up first and Gabi second at the rose ceremony.

@adventurousethiopianwoman6998

Жыл бұрын

I would be sooooo surprised and soooo happy if he pick Kaity after watching this episode. I feel like he really is falling for Gabi. Kaity seems very mature. I don’t think he deserves her but still I would love to see them together. 🤷‍♀️

@aliciaspadaccino5338

Жыл бұрын

@@rachelkessinger2295 NO SPOILERS 🫣

@maryjogreen1706

Жыл бұрын

It takes two to tango and gabi wasn’t happy about not having sex ....... That being said Ariel was disappointed too but she’s classy n probably respected his boundaries!

@John-kv7jo

Жыл бұрын

I actually think he'll pick Gabi as now he is one flesh with her. Also note that Gabi is the only person he has said he is falling in love with.

Rlly weird how Zach just announced to Gabby he was going to talk about their fantasy suite instead of asking her if that is okay

@vanillaghetto

Жыл бұрын

And he announced it after the fact. He *had* already talked about it in front or Jesse, the crew, producers, and the camera...FFS! And he THINKS he is this nice, decent, gentleman.

Anyone else freaked out by the "maybe he will" comment? Like, maybe she was just saying it to the cameras to try make herself feel cute, but I don't like that message.

@alexandrav7739

Жыл бұрын

That, the comment on "I can't wait for him to watch my skin care, the bed with the "activities", she heard his boundaries and thought "challenge accepted, how can I push" rather than respecting his No enough not to push. Personally, I really have a problem with that but I don't know her, so... Trying not to judge.

@abandonablesnowman

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I think it was mostly her insecurities about her appearance surfacing. Obviously it’s never okay to give a pressuring vibe around sex, but I think it’s more of a symptom of her needing to love herself more and seeking outward validation

Timing of the truth is as important as the truth. There's a time and place and the date with Katie wasn't it. Also, Gabi deserved to be told first-- before Jesse Palmer. He seemed in such a hurry to clear his conscious that he didn't show care for others involved.

@roxannecoffey5428

Жыл бұрын

Whether or not Gabi was insecure or pressured him--- and I can see she may have-- that's certainly the edit-- he was a willing participant. That he felt guilty later and regrets it seems clear. Being on this show, I don't think anyone can expect privacy since production will push for details. I just find it unfair of him to tell TVland first then Gabi.

@jdoe754

Жыл бұрын

I think his best move would have been to, later that night when they were alone, explain to her that he thought he had one expectation for the week but understands that he’s realized it might be something she needs to continue exploring and furthering their relationship and wants to respect how she feels and would like to openly discuss intimacy with her to make the best decision for them. From there he should have had a one on one convo with Ariel and apologize for his unrealistic expectation and probably shouldn’t have put her through a rose ceremony.🤷🏻‍♀️

@roxannecoffey5428

Жыл бұрын

@@jdoe754 exactly. It was true but it sure wasn't kind.... to either woman.

@blueshoes915

Жыл бұрын

@@roxannecoffey5428 If Gabi pressured him into having sex, then he wasn’t a “willing participant”.

@vanillaghetto

Жыл бұрын

@@roxannecoffey5428 I would never get it on in the fantasy suite. I bet production has bugs, if not hidden cameras in there.

Ariel should have been The Bachelorette. The way she carries herself is astounding. She has so much class and confidence.

@highway2heaven91

Жыл бұрын

I was rooting for Charity but now I’m bummed it’s not Ariel.

@vanessahobbes3072

Жыл бұрын

I wonder why they don’t wait until atfr to announce it like they used to?

@anniefenter8697

Жыл бұрын

True, Ariel is so classy ❤

@Userhandleidk

Жыл бұрын

@@vanessahobbes3072 I think it’s so we don’t forget about charity

@lunarsugar

Жыл бұрын

Charity's voice annoys me, I'm not looking forward to this season

It was NO MISTAKE that Zach picked Gabi second after her meltdown about being 2nd. I think he won’t pick her because of her insecurities.

@zakluck1686

Жыл бұрын

Bruh I didn't even think about that!!!

@savannahrains8187

Жыл бұрын

@@zakluck1686 go back and watch Gabi’s face, she is PISSED

@daisylucy2

Жыл бұрын

I saw her face. She was NOT happy!!

@NathanMellor

Жыл бұрын

@@savannahrains8187 And Zach's face when he gave the rose to Gabi was somewhere in between sleepy and grumpy.

@lexigraham4600

Жыл бұрын

He doesn’t chose the order. The producers do for drama

Kaity was not moving her lips when she said "you were the only one" at the rose ceremony.

Zach was selfish and went back on his word. And then he slept with Gabi and then told everyone, instead of keeping it private. And then threw it in front of Kaity so he could get rid of his guilt and so that he could test her to see if they could work through it. Zach is a hot mess express. I feel bad for the women.

@TrustJesus333

Жыл бұрын

I think the women are great…Zach, not so much.

@juliusyang1118

Жыл бұрын

i feel like them being intimate would have been more gabj initiating it though, since she expressed how important intimacy was for her to even think about becoming engaged.

@vanillaghetto

Жыл бұрын

@@juliusyang1118 So. You know how many guys "initiate" it that I hold my ground and turn down. Very sexist.

@abandonablesnowman

Жыл бұрын

@@vanillaghetto Idk if that’s sexist lol I think it’s making an assumption

Ariel exited like the queen she is. I'm thrilled Charity is the next Bachelorette, but I'd love to see Ariel have her own season as The Bachelorette. Ariel would be awesome on Bachelor of Paradise, but I can't help but hope we see her in a future season of The Bachelorette. 😊

No one: Zach: “Hi. It’s me. I’m the problem. It’s me”

Lesson for next bachelor: don't talk about sex. Don't share what you did, didn't do and want/don't want to do in front of the camera. Let it go...

Alternate perspective, if I as a woman had expressed to a guy that I don’t want to have sex, and then he heard that as “maybe we will, maybe we won’t” I would feel a little taken advantage of. Whether or not we “agreed” or “both wanted to”, I had expressly said I didn’t want to and I’d feel like that boundary wasn’t honored. I don’t see how their relationship survives this.

@jocelynkatz9033

Жыл бұрын

i interpreted that to be something that may naturally happen from both parties and not one party enforcing it on another

@leannewheeler5351

Жыл бұрын

Unless the situation turned into force. You changing your mind is your choice. I don't think Gabby forced him. He said they talked and BOTH AGREED " they had a moment". We can't take it as any more than what he says it is.

@jocelynkatz9033

Жыл бұрын

@@leannewheeler5351 Exactly. we also dont know what happened behind closed doors so lets leave it alone

I think if Zach was really truly serious about no sex he should have told them as a group. Like at the last rosé ceremony he should have addressed all three women and said “in honor of respecting you and you respecting each other, I am Making a vow to not be intimate during fantasy week”. That way it’s done and clear that’s his boundary. Choosing to do it individually to each women then causing all the drama def is a lil childish of him

I didn’t think he could mess it up this bad omg

In the remote past related to fantasy suites, whatever happened in the fantasy suites was each couple's private business. I really do not think that everyone everywhere has to put honesty before privacy, respect, and integrity. Disclosing whether each couple was intimate or not is the issue that is causing all the drama. This goes back to Clayton's season as well. In the past it is expected that the couple may or may not be intimate. It should be left as that.

@vanillaghetto

Жыл бұрын

He honesty could have kept his mouth shut.

I wait for this every week as I can’t stand to waste 2 hours any more 😂 I just need the point

@DottieMinerva

Жыл бұрын

Me too! I want to know who is going to paradise too. The show is way too long for me and it’s so dry compared to bachelor fantake.

@inhaleexhale

Жыл бұрын

This episode was way worth watching, though. Utter train wreck.

@emmasurf8768

Жыл бұрын

TV stations have been out due to the weather so I see I didn't miss anything anyway

@lorildiamond4987

Жыл бұрын

@@emmasurf8768 most of the recaps are better than the show. Not just informative, but so much more entertaining. Unfortunately this has become a Brand like the Kardashians, but it's not what the fans wanted. After the DISASTEROUS Rachel/Gabby debacle, they were really under the gun to come up with something new. They were in too deep and came up short. Many of us have lost respect and would rather watch The Women Tell All (w/o) Jesse P. Who is as drab as the show. Bachelor Fantake and the likes are a very popular welcomed relief for this drudgery that has lost its charm and become derivative. This ship is sinking.

@delwynjenkins3581

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the Fantake recap is all we need !

This episode was genuinely one of the best bachelor / Bachelorette episode in years!.

Say what you want about this season and/or Zach, but I really like the final three. They feel very authentic and self-reflected to me

@sarahpollock9385

Жыл бұрын

It's so nice to have people that actually seem real!

@thatgirlinautumn5995

Жыл бұрын

@@sarahpollock9385 Exactly! Wouldn’t mind a bachelorette season with any of them 😌

@lucbordage7291

Жыл бұрын

Even stretching it to the final4. Charity will be a terrific bachelorette. Also glad that they went back to just one contestant. The Gabi/Rachel duo clearly didn"t work. Zach made a mistake by not picking Ariel.

@xxmakeuplover05xx

Жыл бұрын

Nope. Gabi's an emotional child.

@inhaleexhale

Жыл бұрын

Gabi is too insecure. She should not have been on this show.

"Things that are meant to be private and are instead shared with everybody" this is the core of the franchise. Zach once again thinks and does what's best for him and not for the others. He could have talked with Katie before, as Bachelor Fantake has pointed out or when the cameras were off, but he chose to be "honest" at the cost of making Katie enjoy the date and to feel special... And she can't not even be the bachelorette...

What happens in the fantasy suites should stay in the fantasy suites -- for everyone's sake.

Even though I've been enjoying the light back-to-basics feel of this season, after multiple seasons crippled by Victorias, Shanaes and serious heavy drama, I will say that I'm glad that we finally got some really juicy drama!

To anyone reading this I just want you to know: If you tell someone you don’t want to have sex with them, and they respond with anything other than “oh well then absolutely that’s ok!” then that’s not respect for your choices. I can’t imagine a bachelorette telling the men she didn’t want to have sex with them and them saying to the camera that maybe she’ll change her mind. All of bachelor nation would be uncomfortable with that response. We don’t need to demonize anyone to point out that it is NEVER ok to hope behind your partner’s back that they’ll defy their convictions so that you can have sex with them. Whatever your reasoning for wanting the sex is. That’s valuing physicality more than support.

@TrustJesus333

Жыл бұрын

Again, he said he chose to have sex with Gabi to further their relationship. He also told her that he is falling in love with her, twice. Many on here are either not watching/listening, or have decided to write their own story. It is amazing to me the amount of people that believe they were in the Fantasy Suite with them. We do not have any idea about all that transpired between them.

@nasecoo

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! If someone says their intention is not to have sex, respect that wholeheartedly. It’s not a challenge to see if you can get them to change their mind.

@abandonablesnowman

Жыл бұрын

@@TrustJesus333 Yeah, it feels a little fuzzy at this point on how everything happened, how comfortable Zach felt, but I definitely didn’t like Gabi’s response when he first brought it up

@leannewheeler5351

Жыл бұрын

He said that had a special moment and they both agreed. We don't know what the conversation was. Gabby initial response doesn't mean she coerced him.

@nasecoo

Жыл бұрын

@@leannewheeler5351 Nobody here said she coerced him. We are not speculating about what we did not see. We are however criticising her initial response when he voiced his intentions to not have sex.

I haven't watched a single season/episode, but from your recap of Zack being sent home I was just WAITING FOR HIM TO BE THE DRAMA THAT HE TRULY IS. Like did everyone forget how he went home???? He made sure him leaving made noise... i was just waiting for him to start drama and chaos and blaming everyone but him

@mochalatte8202

Жыл бұрын

He switched on Rachel as quickly as he got the ick for women on his season. Maybe he doesn't like women with opinions and can't handle having an opposing opinion. We'll never know what happened in that fantasy suite. But we've seen him all season long make rash decisions and get rid of anyone who's not agreeable.

@inhaleexhale

Жыл бұрын

Which episode of Rachel's season was that? I'd like to watch it again.

@abandonablesnowman

Жыл бұрын

Omg the way he threw Rachel under the bus in this episode 💀 I definitely got the feeling that she got the ick from him first that night and he’s just rewriting the narrative

@Finnegan1018

Жыл бұрын

...he should be sent home now 🤦‍♀️

Didn't imagine if Zach broke his vow, it would be with Gabby.

This is some hbo level intrigue and im here for it, also Ariel is a goddess

@belindacarter6872

Жыл бұрын

She really is!!

I feel like he only blabbed about it because he already knew he’d choose kaity, and didn’t want to risk gabby saying it at the reunion and making him look bad. I feel like otherwise he could’ve just so easily kept that between him and gabby and never mentioned the “no sex” thing again.

I have so much more respect for how Kaity handled the situation. Didn't just make it about her hurt feelings and issues with men leaving and betraying her. So mature.

Ariel reminds me of Amal Clooney. She’s too good for Zach.

@quanahedwards2778

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. And he knows that too. He wouldn’t have even approached Ariel in real life. He would be intimidated.

I thought the same thing with Katie saying sorry lmao

So he airs out the details of his fantasy suite date with Gabi but he still can’t tell us what happened with Rachel? Sounds like he’s the problem here.

@tyrabandz2845

Жыл бұрын

that’s what I had thought when that episode first aired. the way rachel turned cold to him didn’t seem like it was just for no reason to me

@bt2598

Жыл бұрын

100%!!!

@joshsinglefooter

Жыл бұрын

Thats the mark of a simp.

@lexigraham4600

Жыл бұрын

Bc not saying what happened between him and Rachel caused no harm. But let’s say he were to pick kaity. When she watches back engaged that he made a promise and went back on it, she might not even want to be with him. He wanted to be honest. Ik I would want to know.

@fluffytail6355

Жыл бұрын

Hi, it’s me, I’m the problem, it’s me

To be diplomatic, I'm going to avoid commenting on Zack. I will only say that I am in 100% agreement with Gabi at 7:53.

Ariel would have been an amazing Bachelorette, She's uniquely stunning, So Classy, her culture & Fun...BNation screwed up big time!

@SarahGrace221

Жыл бұрын

That's how I felt when they picked Zach. But, I'm really happy with Charity as the Bachelorette

@amandalidey329

Жыл бұрын

I'm just seeing Ariel for the first time & she's very pretty.

It was so weird the edit that Gabi got. think it was lowkey villainish. Like she was trying to make Zach keep the secret.

@savannahrains8187

Жыл бұрын

I got bad vibes from her this EP

@mamiej8481

Жыл бұрын

TPTB have a hand in editing ITMs to villainize people. We never know the true order of/context of all things said often times on this show. I hope Gabi is doing okay!

@DottieMinerva

Жыл бұрын

@@mamiej8481 what do these abbreviations mean?

@mamiej8481

Жыл бұрын

@@DottieMinerva "The Powers That Be," it's a term used for the producers/makers running the show.

@highway2heaven91

Жыл бұрын

@@DottieMinerva The Powers that Be or The Producers of the Bachelor

Anyone who has watched a season of the Bachelor or Bachelorette knows what could potentially happen in the fantasy suites. In fact, all 3 women were eagerly anticipating the chance to be intimate with Zach. He should have kept his mouth closed. The only person he was lying to was himself. By broadcasting the details of his night with Gabi, he betrayed her trust and then ended up hurting the other women as well. He would have faired better if he had kept his plans to himself or shared them after he was alone with the women instead in front of the cameras.

@abandonablesnowman

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Honestly if I were a contestant on this show, I’d tell the lead in advance that if they do sleep with other people it’s cool, but don’t tell me

@vanillaghetto

Жыл бұрын

Or kept his pants on.

He was wrong telling her just to ease his guilt! I really like Kaity and Gabi. He did both of WRONG!!

@houddythequeen

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he's not wrong for having had sex with one of the three, he hasn't technically committed to any of them yet and sex is part of a long, loving relationship for many people. Shit happens when two hot people are locked overnight in a room together with booze and mood lighting. Where he went horribly wrong was telling Kaity at the mid-ish point of their date. WTF?!??!?! 1. While yes, you are dating Kaity and before sleeping with her it would be good to let her know you just slept with someone else, but wait until the fantasy suite, when the cameras are off and 1) you aren't airing your and Gabi's personal matters on national television and 2) Kaity can have an honest reaction rather than having to worry about how her reaction will look to the nation. Whichever woman gets the final rose, RUN!!!!!! This guy is all about himself. Both women deserve better.

The way he said I love you to Gaby make me think that he does not mean it and I don’t believe it 🤷‍♀️ Gaby knows 🚩

@CC12203

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I felt like the I am falling in love with you was him planning to go to Kaity and pull a Clayton saying “I love you more” to her. The falling in love line to Gabbi seemed like he’s trying to validate that he cares for her and that they were justified in being intimate, but ultimately I believe he knew in that moment that he would be picking Kaity.

There are few worse feelings in the world than a man dumping you after the first time you have sex and have finally trusted him enough to be your most vulnerable and intimate with him. If he doesn't choose Gabbi, this could create scars that could take a VERY long time to heal. Yikes!!

@vanillaghetto

Жыл бұрын

Uh, not to mention having it happen on TV makes it exponentially worse. But if she was smart, she wouldn't have put herself in that position.

@princess_maya_

Жыл бұрын

@vanillaghetto to be fair, she didn't know she would be put in that situation because plenty of other bachelors before Zach respected the women enough to keep what they did in the suites private! Zach did NOT follow protocol lol

@abandonablesnowman

Жыл бұрын

@@vanillaghetto There’s nothing weird about sleeping with someone you have deep feelings for and expecting them to not share it with the whole world, mainly so the person they actually like doesn’t leave. I mean, he told her he was in love with her. In her mind he was a safe person

@vanillaghetto

Жыл бұрын

@@princess_maya_ To be fair, there has been plenty of blabbing over the years. Perhaps you missed Alex Michel and Trista, Andi Dorfman and Nick Viall, Hannah and Peter, Clayton and his ladies, to name but a few.

@vanillaghetto

Жыл бұрын

@@abandonablesnowman Your strawman holds no interest or merit with me.

6:16 I will never get tired of this scene from The Office. It works so well in this recap. 😊

Zach constantly lives down to my expectations! 🙄

It rubs me the wrong way that Gabi’s response to him expressing not wanting sex was essentially “we’ll see about that” she had no respect for his opinion/thoughts. I get it was consensual but like I said, rubs me the wrong way

@ruthiehaworth3124

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and then she’s upset he feels bad about it and tries to smooth it over with Katy. Like sis you basically caused this 😂 I’m not putting all the blame on her, obviously it was consensual sex by both parties, but, it is kind of funny that she’s upset about the ramifications of having sex when they could’ve just NOT like they were supposed to.

@zakluck1686

Жыл бұрын

Tbh alot of the stuff that Gabi said during the episode rubbed me the wrong way

@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but at the same time, Zach is a grown man and he made his own decision to be physically intimate with her. He did not stick to his boundary. It is unfair to cast Gabi into the persona of a supposed siren when Zach is the one who decided to have sex with her.

@tigerroselili5765

Жыл бұрын

Her saying completely nulls Zack’s promise. It’s obviously all her fault the poor weak man caved. Obviously he had no other choice or a mind of his own

@tigerroselili5765

Жыл бұрын

Btw is that what she said?

This episode felt like watching a murder mystery 💀

Your edits are absolutely spot on every time 😂😂 never stop posting please you are the best part of this show

You missed an opportunity to use the "Sex, we had sex." clip from The Office season 3 when Michael and Jan come back from Jamaica. 😆

Your edits are amazing , fantake !! I think its cruel for the lead ( Zach) to tell someone ( Gabi) they dont pick that theyre falling in love with them. Poor Gabs. She deserves better. Ultimate plot twist if he picks Gabi, though.

Regardless, the women's reactions were red flag material, like, "Oh you set a boundary? Well let's see about that." At the end of the day, sex the choice of both parties and I don't like that he went back on his word. Major ick. But the ladies making light of his boundaries? Also major ick.

Would it be possible to turn on captions for the video, please (or future videos)? I know a lot of people rely on them. Always love the content! ❤

@DottieMinerva

Жыл бұрын

They should be on now!

Of all the amazing clips you find for this great channel, I never expected a This is the End clip. As always, flawless editing and summary.

You are THE BEST at these recaps. So clever and funny and better than the actual show.

Am I the only one who also thinks Gabi is also in the wrong here?? Like obviously Zach is an adult and should be able to stick to the boundaries he had for himself but I feel like he genuinely felt bad about the fact that he didn't and he was trying to own up and take responsibility for it. I'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong but Gabi is ALSO an adult and should be able to respect basic physical boundaries that Zach communicated. The fact that she was say "he doesn't want to have sex but we'll see" is SUPER messed up. And also when he talks to her the next day clearly upset she says "I didn't realize you were so bothered" that's also super invalidating to the fact that he's clearly upset. I'm not saying it was just her fault or she's like evil but also I think there was parts they are both responsible for.

@KristinaNorman

Жыл бұрын

I think you are forgetting that fact that Zach indeed decided to have sex with Gabi too. Did he say no? Clearly not. These are two ADULTS who had sex and who clearly both enjoyed it. While blaming the woman is clearly your agenda here....Zach exploiting what he did in private with Gabi without her permission makes Zach wrong.

@jpFlorida

Жыл бұрын

@@KristinaNorman no I for sure think Zach is in the wrong. He should have either 1. Held to the boundary HE himself created or 2. Handled the consequences privately. He didn’t do either of those and he’s in the wrong. The only reason anyone but Gabi would need to to know about that incident is if he picks Kaity and she wants to know AFTER the show. But it can also be true that a person shouldn’t say “we’ll see” after someone shares a physical boundary with them even though they BOTH make that choice

@faithstrickland350

Жыл бұрын

AGREED

@57andstillkicking

Жыл бұрын

@@KristinaNorman It is still true that Gabi didn’t respect Zach’s boundaries. She spoke that for us all to hear.

@KristinaNorman

Жыл бұрын

@@57andstillkicking but also Zach didn’t respect his own boundaries and kept his pants zipped. He coulda said no…. Yo.. no one is to be blamed here. They had sex and there’s nothing wrong with it.

Great recap!!! Love your videos.

WHY AM I SMACKING EVERYTHING AS I LAUGH MANIACALLY? I just keep screaming OMG! OMG?! He dug this hole for himself OMG!

@abandonablesnowman

Жыл бұрын

@Eric 😂😂

@melabear13241

Жыл бұрын

lmao it is- but my brain is chaotic af. I just really wasn't ready for this one....haha

@melabear13241

Жыл бұрын

@@nafisadodi YESSS!!! OMG lmaooo. My husband does not like/watch the bachelor at all but I HAD to show him this video- he was cringing the whole time lmao

I'm just here to say: ARIEL for the next (after Charity) BACHELORETTE! Ariel is stunning, intelligent, articulate, fun, witty, her season would definitely NOT be boring ... AND ... first Jewish Bachelorette!!! You listening, powers-that-be? (*edit - my bad; I spaced Andi's season.)

@MrMsDingdingding

Жыл бұрын

Andi Dorfmann is jewish, so Ariel wouldn't be the first though... But I too really want to see Ariel as the bachelorette!

@AlexandraK1

Жыл бұрын

They've gone woke, so they chose Charity.

@Mimiscellaneous

Жыл бұрын

@@AlexandraK1What do you mean by that?

@katlinataol

Жыл бұрын

​@@AlexandraK1 while I dont exactly agree with your word choice I do agree with what youre trying to say.. which only makes it seem like YET ANOTHER thing taken from Charity this season, this should be such a good thing for her but it also feels like they picked her as part of an agenda. I will watch Charity's season, but I would have loved to watch a season of Ariel, she's way too good for Paradise.

@zoeg3200

Жыл бұрын

@@AlexandraK1 choosing someone black isn't woke. Charity is perfect.

Thank you for another banger of a video Bachelor Fantake!

Awesome video Bachelor Fantake! Made me laugh out loud so many times

Poor Gabi, she said ‘second’ SO many times and now she’s prob going to be his second too! Poor girl. Not to mention they were clearly going to keep it between them bc she joked that they ‘had a great cuddle Sesh’ I feel like there’s no recovery from this for poor gabi ❤ Ps…. The office AND step brothers cuts?!?! Perfection 😂❤

@inhaleexhale

Жыл бұрын

It's hard for me to call her "poor Gabi" though, since it appears she's the one who initiated sex with Zach, as Zach has made his intentions of not having sex clear to her. She implies to the camera that she intends on changing his mind, which wouldn't be tolerated if it was in reverse and a bachelorette had stated she didn't want to have sex and a man was going to make her change her mind.

@abandonablesnowman

Жыл бұрын

@@inhaleexhale Agree with the premise of what you’re saying, but it is possible they had a long, mature talk about what they both wanted and went into it equally willing. I just don’t want to accuse Gabi of something that heavy when we didn’t see the whole conversation

@brittneybruin2566

Жыл бұрын

@@abandonablesnowman totally agree with your comment. We don’t know what happened between them. Best not to jump to assumptions, particularly with clever editing etc.

@abandonablesnowman

Жыл бұрын

@@brittneybruin2566 Also, if he told her he was in love with her knowing full well he was sending her home, that could mean she was sleeping with him under a false narrative, making him pretty terrible actually. We don’t know her life, maybe she only sleeps with someone after those things have been said

Seriously, Bachelor Fantake, by far one of your best, most amusing recaps EVER! The clips were so hilarious and apropos! Well done, sir

I love how you always find matching clips 😂😂😂

Ariel is too good for Zach!

@kaileim970

Жыл бұрын

I agree. She is stunning, classy and I like Zack but he isn't that. Just a good, sincere guy. Wish I had chosen one like him.

So it was just me in how Kaity said sorry too. I thought I was the only one hearing that.

Ohhh my god. The best way to go about fantasy suites week is not outright say for the cameras “no sex” or “definitely sex.” Like, keep it to yourself!! If you don’t want to have sex, tell them in private. Also if you did, tell the others in private if you feel that’s right. Even if they don’t watch the show they should know this is a PRIVATE and touchy (no pun intended) subject.

you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain....

@jocelynkatz9033

Жыл бұрын

or you are nether

@abandonablesnowman

Жыл бұрын

@@jocelynkatz9033 Fr Zach’s whole vibe 😂 I feel about him the same way I do toward a bowl of oatmeal. It’s fine, could burn if approached at the wrong time

Like always your clips crack me up

As soon as I finished this episode I RAN to youtube

I think it’s really important to look at Zach’s actions after the fantasy suite with Gabi. He chose Kaity FIRST at the rose ceremony, after Gabi spoke to him about feeling second and sleeping with him. He couldn’t go through the date with kaity without telling her what happened and Kaity accepted it. I can’t help but think Zach appreciates Kaitys acceptance and recognizes he can do/behave shitty and Kaity will still be there. That’s a really bad position Kaity has placed herself in.

I'm invested! Thank you 🎉

Bro your creativity with editing is second to none hahaha

And that’s why he should have stuck to his vow. He made more of a mess of things with that than if he had never said anything in the first place. Also, I agree that I never thought it would have been Gabi. I feel bad for all of the women.

Even though I watch the show, I look forward to hear your review. Love it. ❤🇯🇲

Great recap and you had me dying at the Austin Powers clips! 😁

I think the take away from this episode it to keep what happens in the fantasy suite private. Even if the lead decides to not have sex with anyone they should just tell the contestants when the cameras are gone telling everyone what happens in there never ends well.

By Zach’s logic of no secret telling, he should also be telling kaity that he told Gabi he was falling in love with her but he didn’t. He’s got some flawed logic! Should keep relationships in this show separate from each other because then people start comparing themselves which is just not right.

@TrustJesus333

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Thank you! Yes he told Gabi that he is falling in love with her, TWICE!

Dude you are the goat! Not only do you save me 45mins each week, you make the show way significantly more interesting to follow! The producers of Deadpool have to take you on full time as an advisor. The commentary + clips you insert are hilarious

Why did Gabi give off the vibe of “oh I’m going to change his mind, “I might try to seduce him.” Sounds very disrespectful and sketchy to me. Didn’t event try to respect his boundaries and you could tell during their dinner date that she was laughing on the inside as if it’s a joke.

@quanahedwards2778

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. If the roles were reversed, there would be outrage!

@sunnyflour4324

Жыл бұрын

@@quanahedwards2778 Exactly. If this was the bachelorette and a guy said those things like “Oh we’ll see,” people would have went OFF.

@nancyglezhdez

Жыл бұрын

Yes almost gave me rapey vibes. Like chill he said no . This really bothered me because it it were flipped people would be loosing their minds.,

@ilexevergreen5405

Жыл бұрын

Somebody said it's shady editing

This recap is painful to get through because Zach’s choices are astounding. Why talk about this at all with cameras and international TV? Intimacy is private between two people. Ugh

I honestly thought it would be Ariel and Kaity in the final two. It sucks that he ended up sleeping with Gabi, because I believe that sex DID end up clouding his judgement. I think he feels like he almost owes Gabi.

@vanillaghetto

Жыл бұрын

He's worried about looking like a cad on TV. Not worried about Gabi's feelings.

The Austin Powers clips 😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

This is turning out to be such a juicy season, I’m all in!

@quanahedwards2778

Жыл бұрын

Right! Lol I think it helps that the women are all great catches.

Idk why the hell he wanted to make the no sex thing public knowledge. Like just keep it to yourself!

@shaunduquette5992

Жыл бұрын

no miscommunications

@vanillaghetto

Жыл бұрын

Because he's Sean 2.0