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@brusselssprouts560

16 күн бұрын

I had a BOSSME-80 but the tones weren't quite there, so I bought a VOX MV50 preamp to put at the end of the signal chain (I play straight into PA), and that changed the game in completely the right direction, but it failed after 18 months. I now have a BOSS ME-90 which has a few more "modellers" and "pedals" including their clone of a Big-Muff, but I would welcome your advice on how to get closer to the tone I had which was similar to yours. If I remember right, DG used fuzz at varying levels, and sometimes with OD/DS pedals as he felt it gave a warmness that the guitar and amp alone couldn't. Am I right do you think?

one of the best Gilmour guitar channels on KZread, period. GREAT WORK!!!

@marekbilek1703

17 күн бұрын

On the world 😉

@vrayonet

17 күн бұрын

The best one. Period.

@ubiratanguimaraes6996

17 күн бұрын

The best

@mustyguitar

16 күн бұрын

you guys spoil me, thanks!! I don't know about that though..

Great comparison! Great playing as always. Fuzz on Echoes Pompei is Sick!! Fuzz for earlier PF and muff for later PF!

Great sounding video! Got my headphones out for it. Damn dood.

The Muff. Anytime

@roscius6204

17 күн бұрын

I'm in the Fuzz camp. 🤗 Wondering which era is your preference, I'm definitely early.

Great work, as always Musty.

honestly fuzz face is much cooler, you can use it as heavy fuzz and overdrive and it sounds amazing, big muff is just kinda smoother, works well with couple of Davids sounds, he didnt use it everywhere. with fuzz face you can cover early years much closer, obscured by clouds meddle tdsotm. fuzz face got that sweet treble voice

I love this video! Both of these are awesome sounds! I think I prefer the FF mostly because of the Echoes tone

Hey! I’m that dude with the Green Russian Big Muff and Overdrive from Boss GT-1. Honestly it sounds great but it’s just a bit too noisy so I have to work on it. Thanks a bunch for helping me on my guitar tone journey!

@mustyguitar

16 күн бұрын

you got it!

Better than Netflix, very entertaining!

You have become the greatest expert on Gilmour's tones and playing on the KZread, for sure. Thank you for the stuff you do! As for the unusual low gain settings for Big Muff, I love how that sounds on bridge pickup. It was amazing to see you using it for AHM funky part and that early Floyd stuff, because I had an experience playing those songs live with the same 'not appropriate' gear and settings.

@mustyguitar

16 күн бұрын

I don't know about that, thank you for your lovely comment!

@tymanngruter1808

16 күн бұрын

You are! ​@@mustyguitar

This comparison is tremendous! Thank you for showing the differences with so many examples (loved that you included Possible Pasts), excellent playing too! 🎸 The only conclusion is to have both? 😎

@mustyguitar

16 күн бұрын

I'd have both :)

Always been a fan of the Muff

Great vid. Like the Fuzz.

cool video ...maybe you should check the great eastern fx focus fuzz ...incredible fuzz! ;)

Great content as always! I have Fender Pro Junior tweed 15 wat with 10 inch jensen speaker. What Big Muff would you recommend?

Both have their place in Gilmour tones. The muff is usually, with overdrive, smoother. I personally use a germanium fuzz face. I don't have a big muff yet.

I don't have a problem with the Ram's Head being muddy, but I turn the sustain way down and the tone and volume way up, and raise the gain of the amp to compensate for the lower sustain setting.

Love your channel bro. The Lunar Module isn’t exactly a Fuzz Face ! Whilst parts of the circuit are similar to a FF, lots are not. It’s a super versatile pedal, I make a version of it, but it’s not a fuzz face.

Thank you. But I'm confused. What about the Colorsound on the Hipower pedal. How and where does that fit in here? Because that sounds awesome too.

@mustyguitar

16 күн бұрын

that's an overdrive actually. it's different category. fuzz is fuzz and big muff is actually a fuzz too. we can compare something like tube driver and colorsound, or, pastfx td-y (tube driver clone) and hi-power (powerboost clone) in another video. how and where does colorsound fit? well, if you want to play sheep, pigs (rhythm parts, not solo. solo is big muff), shine on, have a cigar etc. you should get a colorsound.

@douginny

16 күн бұрын

@@mustyguitar Thank you so much for all of your work. Great info because we are about to add Pigs to our set. Your tutorial was great.

Pure Gilmour, no effects at all please! 🙏

I like my Skreddy Earnie fuzz. I can clear it up by dialing it down. My Wampler Triple Wreck will get close to the same sound, but with more mid range,while also being able to transition into overdrive, depending on the settings. Lastly, I have a modded tube screamer that when paired on the left side (down signal) with my modded Metal Zone can get a crunchier clearer Fuzz with good sustain. I can't say one is better than another. They are just subtly different.

It simply depends on the era you are in the most. If you split gilmour's career in two big groups (pre animlas - post animals, in order to simplify things) it's one (fuzz) or another (big muff). If you're into less complex rigs and more "raw" sound go for the fuzz face. If you like a more articulated sound go for the big muff. It's a matter of flavours rather then right or wrong.

The Muff has always felt like a very “precise” fuzz to me. Its sound is very focused and much less spitty when compared to a classic fuzz. A classic fuzz is just way more versatile imo, the ability to clean up so well makes it so powerful. The Big Muff has one massive advantage though, it does one thing and it does it REALLY well, be a Big Muff. You simply can’t recreate that with a classic Fuzz.

The Big Muff really improves dramatically with the Rotary after it. There's more clarity and less 'muff' to it, does it change the EQ? but the Fuzz's harmonics are still a tad better..

@mustyguitar

16 күн бұрын

I couldn't agree more. big muff is beautiful with rotary

I have always like the Fuzz Face for anything up to DSOTM. I think the solos from “Time” and “Money” just sound better on a Fuzz Face. Plus, it does that cool trick where it can be an overdrive when you roll your guitar volume down. From “Animals” on (I don’t think WYWH had any fuzz on it… maybe on the last track in small doses), it’s a Big Muff of one kind or another. At that point, I think it’s more of a question of “which Muff?”. It all depends on the tones you’re going for, which album or tour, etc.

I've tried, but I can't make Muffs work for me. It just disappears in the mix. I've tried boosters and other things, but they either don't work for me or they change the sound of the Muff too much. I'm usually playing in a two guitar band though. You're not using boosts at all though. Any tips?

@mustyguitar

16 күн бұрын

Well, boosters don't add much to the eq board if any. you can try using an overdrive before or after, but honestly, if one big muff doesn't work for you, you should try another. I recommend a mid boosted big muff like green russian.

Both sound great and if you were in a Pink Floyd tribute band you'd have both. Personally I prefer the edginess of the fuzz Nice comparison video BTW

what's the cheapest but good muff pedal?

@mustyguitar

15 күн бұрын

Ehx Green Russian big muff

Fuzz Face was gradually removed from his pedalboard for Big Muff. So… Most of the High gain sounds between 1977 and now are from Big Muff and Tube Driver

@roscius6204

17 күн бұрын

Does the Tube Driver give the Muff the clarity, that's missing by itself? Before or after, most pics seem to suggest before but that's a physical signal flow impression. He's also be pretty keen on EQ's and I wonder if that comes into play

@mustyguitar

16 күн бұрын

tube driver is gilmour's toy from 1993 till now. from 1977 to 1979, he used colorsound for overdrive and series of different overdrives till he landed on tube driver. he used tc electronic booster, he used proco rat, he used boss sd-1...

@mustyguitar

16 күн бұрын

here's a great video about big muff boosting: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mY6n0cOfYJXThs4.html you'll learn how boosting sounds before and after. and EQ is one of the most important elements. I'll do a video about EQ too.

@laurentperez5229

16 күн бұрын

@@mustyguitar What I’m saying is that Gilmour used the FF for the first albums but changed for Big Muff for Animals. He boosted/EQ the BM with a Power Boost and after that with a TD. But there is a change from FF to Big Muff and he didn’t come back to FF after that.

@roscius6204

16 күн бұрын

@@mustyguitar Thanks, I had a look. I have an FZ5 on my board in an ES8 switcher, so I'm currently trying out every possible permutation available. The other drives and boosts are a Fulltone 2B, Compadre, Riverside, BluesBreaker a single loop side chain with a Klone, Argo, Tim, SD-1 and ODR-1.... Parallel with the Argo and levels/Eq tweaked by the Riverside gives some interesting variables. Midi really helps there. I was in the habit of dialing the fuzz at 12 but lately I've found it's best backed off.

If I had to choose one to use the rest of my life, it’d be the fuzz face. I can get overdrive and distortion just adjusting to guitar volume.

Fender Pelt fuzz pedal covers a lot of ground for me.

Fuzz, all the way!

If you want to dial in David’s tones from the last 30 years what you really need is a Chandler or BK Butler Tube Driver.

@mustyguitar

16 күн бұрын

very insightful. an overdrive is not a part of this video though.

@jeffreysoble5369

16 күн бұрын

@@mustyguitarUnderstood. And you absolutely do a great job capturing David’s original tones. They’re great! I’m only pointing out that for the vast majority of his current live tones, he uses the tube driver for both overdrive and distortion, then will sometimes accent it with a Muff (or a Pete Cornish Muff clone).

The Lunar Module fuzz is a bit more edgy. Not bad, but I like the 'cleaner' sound of the Big Muff.

youll hate what i have to say... cornish p-2 cleans up with guitar volume... or at least the echoline silicon high gain fuzz. but it has too much mid range and a flabby bass. so i wouldnt recommend it. i went back to using my va 73 rams head. also you should try the devtech gilmour muff. great video, i will say, i dont use fuzz (unless you consider muff to be fuzz, but i consider a muff to be a muff) i use my pastfx powerbooster for the fuzzy like overdrive stuff, and it works so good! i have 5 muffs, 2 of them i discredit because they arent that good, but the three that i switch between are triangle, patriarch, and 73 rams head. and they cover all my fuzz/muff needs.

@mustyguitar

16 күн бұрын

Yeah I heard that p-2 is very muddy.

For me it was easier to achive that tone with a Pro co rat than the Big Muff

Silicone Fuzz Face > literally can cover all tones from 68-74

Let's not forget that Gilmour used to boost Big Muff with other pedals, while fuzz is a bit picky and requires to work as a standalone pedal, comparison should take care of this.

@vinicmag

17 күн бұрын

I have a sunface and it works best with an OD after it thru a clean amp. that or the fuzz alone thru a dirty amp.

@mustyguitar

17 күн бұрын

That's not always correct. He did boost big muff sometimes. On studio recordings, there's only big muff. On Gdansk he used tube driver AFTER big muff. On PULSE, he used overdrive BEFORE big muff. on live at pompeii 2016, it's only big muff, not even compression. On delicate sound of thunder, no boost. I think we shouldn't confuse ourselves with additional info for now. There's a great video about big muff boost: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mY6n0cOfYJXThs4.html

@chrisradzion2148

17 күн бұрын

I used to think that. But it varies. He paired the FF with the PowerBoost, but the order wasn’t always the same. He paired the Muff and the PowerBoost and later the Tube Driver, but again, the order changes, and he had 2-3 Tube Drivers at times.

fuzz sounds better for time money and echoes IMO

@mustyguitar

16 күн бұрын

I'm with you

RAT! With the bridge pickup with the tone rolled all the way back and a little delay

@mustyguitar

16 күн бұрын

that's a way to go!