Fusion in Space: New Plasma Thruster Tested Successfully

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Last week I saw a lot of headlines about a space propulsion system that uses nuclear fusion. The news comes from a company by name RocketStar Inc. which announced in a press release that they have “reinvented” spacecraft by releasing the “world’s first fusion-enhanced space thruster, the FireStar™ Fusion Drive. They claim that the FireStar TM Fusion Drive improves their water powered pulsed plasma thruster by harnessing aneutronic nuclear fusion by 50%. In this video I explain what this all means.
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  • @barryon8706
    @barryon8706Ай бұрын

    Einstein already has a unit named for him. Ein Stein = 1 mug of beer.

  • @MarvinMcDougle3

    @MarvinMcDougle3

    Ай бұрын

    I think i have just witnessed my first German Dad joke. I'll be stealing this if it ever comes up in conversation.

  • @Reignspike

    @Reignspike

    Ай бұрын

    You win the internet for the day! :D

  • @michaelotoole1807

    @michaelotoole1807

    Ай бұрын

    bravo!

  • @anthonyshiels9273

    @anthonyshiels9273

    Ай бұрын

    Ampère, Newton, Tesla and Volta have SI units named after them. "Bertie" does not.

  • @jwessel1969

    @jwessel1969

    Ай бұрын

    @@anthonyshiels9273 On the other hand, he does have an element named after him.

  • @cajun70122
    @cajun70122Ай бұрын

    "The concept of riding on shock waves became the founding principle of social media"! (6:40) How very true!

  • @joachimkeinert3202

    @joachimkeinert3202

    Ай бұрын

    🤣

  • @mikebarushok5361

    @mikebarushok5361

    Ай бұрын

    Wondering if that was a reference to "Shockwave Rider" by John Brunner?

  • @tsamuel6224

    @tsamuel6224

    Ай бұрын

    I do love this girl's sense of humor.

  • @PluetoeInc.

    @PluetoeInc.

    Ай бұрын

    @@tsamuel6224 damn u must be very old to say this girl instead of this woman .

  • @MrGrumblier

    @MrGrumblier

    24 күн бұрын

    The deadpan deliver killed me.

  • @tedarcher9120
    @tedarcher9120Ай бұрын

    Boron fusion makes more sense for a rocket than for a powerplant. On a powerplant you need to have energy output to be bigger than input. In a plasma thruster you spend energy to throw away propellent anyway, so if some of that propellent fuses, that's free energy right there. Same thing works with regular rocket engines, they can fly by just pumping fuel out very fast without ever igniting, but it is way less efficient than burning all the fuel

  • @FredPlanatia

    @FredPlanatia

    Ай бұрын

    How does the fusion generate thrust? I assume the decay products (3xHe4) are thrown off in random directions with high energy meaning velocity). Those thrown off in the direction of the nozzle exit would add to thrust, but those thrown off in the opposite direction would do the opposite.

  • @zimriel

    @zimriel

    Ай бұрын

    @@FredPlanatia that is why a thruster has a shell, to bounce propellant into the direction we want.

  • @mitseraffej5812

    @mitseraffej5812

    Ай бұрын

    Burning the fuel / propellant is just the source of energy. Ion thrusters so common on satellites for orbit adjustments use solar generated electricity as the source of energy.

  • @xxlvulkann6743

    @xxlvulkann6743

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@FredPlanatiathose thrown in the direction of the rocket are the ones that contribute to thrust. The ones that go directly through the exit are wasted energy. The fusion products can only propel the rocket, not drag it

  • @leerman22

    @leerman22

    Ай бұрын

    @@FredPlanatia Sure they just interact with the magnetic conduit the plasma already runs through. Those helium nuclei are already charged alpha particles, you can do the same with fission products in a magnetic field.

  • @FrDismasSayreOP
    @FrDismasSayreOPАй бұрын

    I humbly propose an Einstein as a unit of a misattributed quotation. "His history paper has 2.5 Einsteins per page."

  • @leacher79511
    @leacher79511Ай бұрын

    "Alien Pan Dealer" lol 😂

  • @heisag

    @heisag

    Ай бұрын

    Well, life in plastic. It's fantastic.

  • @jamessotherden5909

    @jamessotherden5909

    Ай бұрын

    I broke out laughing at that one.

  • @FLPhotoCatcher

    @FLPhotoCatcher

    Ай бұрын

    @@heisag What's not fantastic is the toxisity of Teflon. I really hope that Teflon is never used in earth's atmosphere.

  • @curtisblake261
    @curtisblake261Ай бұрын

    Lol at shockwaves and social media. Also boron isn't boring. Also, efficiency, German.

  • @visvivalaw
    @visvivalawАй бұрын

    It's important to remember Orion was abandoned for political reasons, not any technical issues. A model (called the Hot Rod) using chemical explosives successfully flew and now sits in the Air and Space museum.

  • @melgross

    @melgross

    Ай бұрын

    It really wasn’t practical.

  • @visvivalaw

    @visvivalaw

    Ай бұрын

    @@melgross For political reasons, primarily the nuclear test ban treaty. In terms of engineering it was perfectly workable.

  • @chriswhite3692

    @chriswhite3692

    23 күн бұрын

    @@melgross It wasn't practical? By what standards? It could theoretically make it up to .1c. Nothing we have ever built has ever come close to what amounts to interstellar velocities like that.

  • @MrRolnicek
    @MrRolnicekАй бұрын

    Energy efficiency is usually not an issue in space applications as long as you don't want to fly further away from the Sun than Mars. If you stay withing Mars orbit you have (usually) all the power you need from just a solar panel, often times more than 23 hours of sunlight per day with no weather to get in the way ever. So the only thing that matters is fuel efficiency. If you can get extra 50% efficiency, meaning you get 50% hotter exhaust at the cost of increasing your power consumption by 100%, you go for it, It's worth doing because you're saving fuel by spending electricity. Electricity recharges but fuel does not.

  • @leerman22

    @leerman22

    Ай бұрын

    Plasma thrusters also make lots more waste heat than ion thrusters since you don't have to heat your propellant with a lossy magnetron. Having some amount of fusion going on in your plasma can make up for some of the waste heat, or we can continue have burn times longer than transit times with plasma.

  • @blacknoir2404

    @blacknoir2404

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah but what about during night time? Just kidding

  • @robert5

    @robert5

    17 күн бұрын

    Plus there are much more efficient solar panels then what is offered to the public to put on your roof.

  • @chrishall5283
    @chrishall5283Ай бұрын

    As someone else has mentioned, "energy efficiency" is not the issue for thrusters. Mass, density, storage and specific impulse (ISP) are the more important metrics. For most Hall effect thrusters, they already have good ISP, but thrust is low. A favored thrust propellant is xenon, which trades off lower ISP for better thrust. It's easily storeable, dense, and isn't corrosive. However, xenon is incredibly expensive, which is why Starlink switched to krypton as a propellant. The fusion enhanced thruster mentioned here would be a welcome step forward because it adds extra energy at just the right time and place to get a relatively low mass (high ISP) propellant to exit at a significantly higher velocity, hence higher thrust. There have also been studies looking at fission/fusion hybrids that use the high energy density of fission reactors plus some of their neutrons to drive fusion reactions in propellants. The fusion reactions are not used as an energy source, but they are used to increase thrust and ISP for your propellant mass.

  • @dylant0000

    @dylant0000

    Ай бұрын

    aren't Starlinks using argon Hall thrusters these days?

  • @chrishall5283

    @chrishall5283

    Ай бұрын

    @@dylant0000 You might be right. I know the early ones used Kr, but Ar is dirt cheap, which is a consideration when you have to launch such a huge number of satellites with a relatively short life span. I believe they are ~6000 or so right now.

  • @ericlipps9459

    @ericlipps9459

    Ай бұрын

    Another problem is that an Orion-style spacecraft is essentially a flying stockpile of tactical nuclear bombs, making it politically, er, radioactive.

  • @frgv4060

    @frgv4060

    Ай бұрын

    @@ericlipps9459 Yeah. That is the main reason why nuclear powered propulsion sits on a folder whereas rtgs are launched no problem. Sigh.

  • @VenturiLife

    @VenturiLife

    Ай бұрын

    @@dylant0000 Yes they are switching to that apparently from Krypton.

  • @kennethferland5579
    @kennethferland5579Ай бұрын

    Speaking of 'Efficiency' in a rocket engine is a tricky thing, the most literal measure would be how much energy that is liberated IN the device becomes kinetic energy in the expelled propellant in the desired direction which is what actually gives you the thrust. In this regard Chemical rocket engines are actually far more efficient as they reach something like 98% efficiency, while conversly Ion engines expend large amounts of energy to first ionize atoms and THEN accelerate them, the ionization step is a pure loss, in addition their are a lot of ions physically coliding with the walls of these devices which both wear away the walls and represent a loss, lastly magnetic nozzles use curving magnetic field lines which can never be fully parrelel, thus a lot of the ejected ions move out in a cone with some of their kinetic energy orthogonal to the desired thrust which is likewise a waste called cosine loss. All in All an electrical ion type thruster will have efficiency down in the 50-60% range. What IS much higher for the Ion engine is its Specific Impulse, the amount of thrust produced per unit of propellet mass expelled, becasuse they throw that material so much faster, basically they maximize A in F=MA. This measure is often called 'Efficiency' of a rocket engine but this is slopy use of language and should be avoided. It is like conflating the energy density of Uranium and Coal with a powerplants Efficiency, A Nuclear powerplay is going to use fewer kg of fuel to make the same MWh of electricity, but the THERMAL efficiency, aka heat to electricity conversion of a nuclear powerplant is typically lower then a coal powerplant (30% vs 50%).

  • @benjaminhampel8640
    @benjaminhampel8640Ай бұрын

    Hello Sabine, There is already a unit called Einstein and named after Albert Einstein. One difinition of this unit reflects the number of light quanta, i.e. photons, that are absorbed or emitted, e.g. in chemical or biological processes. One Einstein corresponds to one mole and is therefore nothing other than the numerical value of Avogadro's constant in mol−1, i.e. approximately 1 E = 6.022 ⋅ 10 ^23 photons. An second, conflicting, difinition of this unit is the energy in one mole of photons, i.e. 1 E = 1 mol × L x h x f = 1 mol × 6.02214076×1023 mol^−1 × 6.62607015×10^−34 J s × f = 3.9903127128934321×10^−10 J s × f, where L is the Avogadro constant, h is the Planck constant, and f is the frequency. I first saw this unit in an older patent (US 3749679) on a light-emitting chemical reaction. In this patent it was used to indicate the quatum yield in the form E/mol However, the Einstein is not an SI unit and obsolete.

  • @chaosopher23

    @chaosopher23

    Ай бұрын

    The fun part: The size of a mole of photons can be the same size as just one. Pauli doesn't count here. But that one spot will get real hot, real fast.

  • @davidconner-shover51

    @davidconner-shover51

    Ай бұрын

    I thought I remembered seeing this unit in some rather aged textbooks

  • @FredPlanatia

    @FredPlanatia

    Ай бұрын

    @@chaosopher23what do you mean 'the size of the photon'? Do you mean its energy? According to the OP, the Einstein is always a mole of photons. The amount of energy just depends on their frequency. So you could imagine an Einstein of photons of a low frequency (say radiowave photons) having the same energy as a single photon of much higher frequency (say a cosmic gamma ray).

  • @chaosopher23

    @chaosopher23

    Ай бұрын

    @@FredPlanatia Its physical size. A mole must have more energy than one, but one can be a gamma.

  • @FredPlanatia

    @FredPlanatia

    Ай бұрын

    @@chaosopher23 photons do not get bigger when they have more energy. What you say though is correct (and its exactly what i said in my last comment). One photon of a high frequency like a gamma ray can have as much energy as a whole mole of radio wave photons (which have very low frequency and therefore each carries a tiny amount of energy.

  • @TrueThanny
    @TrueThannyАй бұрын

    It's important to note that Orion was abandoned not because it wouldn't work, but because treaties prevented blowing up nuclear bombs in space. It's also worth noting that the most revolutionary possible propulsion would be one that required only energy as an input. Getting energy isn't difficult in space. It's carrying all the mass that you need to chuck out the back that's difficult. There's no currently known way to convert energy into net propulsion, however. It will require something fundamentally new.

  • @mikereid1195

    @mikereid1195

    Ай бұрын

    There's a possibility of just that, just read about it...Charles Buhler apparently is working on an asymmetric electric drive....

  • @TrueThanny

    @TrueThanny

    Ай бұрын

    @@mikereid1195 No, he just believes he is. It's a complete dead end.

  • @skynet5828

    @skynet5828

    Ай бұрын

    Laser propulsion is your friend.

  • @TrueThanny

    @TrueThanny

    Ай бұрын

    @@skynet5828 That will work fine when the lasers are on Earth and the collection areas are on the spacecraft. As soon as you put the laser on the spacecraft, the effects cancel out, and you get no propulsion.

  • @skynet5828

    @skynet5828

    Ай бұрын

    @@TrueThanny Don't bother with Lasers on Earth. Build them directly in space.

  • @VRietySociety
    @VRietySocietyАй бұрын

    the dry humor hidden in the videos...🤣 social media will never be the same again

  • @thingsiplay

    @thingsiplay

    Ай бұрын

    Now I understand what social media is all about.

  • @verlax8956

    @verlax8956

    Ай бұрын

    the funniest thing was her opera ad

  • @mrkillp0p321
    @mrkillp0p321Ай бұрын

    "Alien pan dealer" - absolutely love your comedy, Sabine. 😂

  • @AU-hs6zw
    @AU-hs6zwАй бұрын

    Nice explanation, thanks!

  • @Thomas-gk42
    @Thomas-gk42Ай бұрын

    Wonderful explanation. Don't you need a Newton bobblehead now?

  • @geirmyrvagnes8718

    @geirmyrvagnes8718

    Ай бұрын

    Haha, she should have quite a few of them. Bonus for a Musk bobblehead, since he doesn't call that often these days...

  • @adrianclarke7935

    @adrianclarke7935

    Ай бұрын

    Sabine could have bobble-heads of all the famous physicists on a time line, then we could see how old/new the ideas are.

  • @Thomas-gk42

    @Thomas-gk42

    Ай бұрын

    @@geirmyrvagnes8718 Perhaps Musk is busy to liquid the money to fund Sabine´s research on "indefinfte causal structure" stuff (measurement problem)

  • @cmilkau
    @cmilkauАй бұрын

    For electric thrusters, energy efficiency is usually not the most pressing issue as these are usually intended to be fed by solar panels, and energy supply considered virtually infinite. The more pressing issues are thrust-to-weight ratio and/or specific impulse. Plasma thrusters seem to target a regime between high TWR chemical and high ISP ion thrusters (which are technically also ejecting plasma but I didnt choose the names). So more thrust is virtuous on its own, since the gap between chemical and plasma is still so large. It would be interesting if they could also increase power-to-weight ratio, as this seems to have reached a ceiling across all technologies.

  • @WernerEngel1
    @WernerEngel1Ай бұрын

    We devloped the FEEP-Ion Thruster technology here in Austria - so we have some knowledge about this. We always get questions about fusion in space - and yes it would be nice. But to really harness the power of fusion energy you also need a method to transform this enormous amount of heat into electricity with almost no losses - otherwise you have to get rid of these losses - which is very hard in space as there is no medium for cooling. And if people talk about fusion the usually talk about MW and GW - so with the actual technology I see no way to get rid of this amount of "heat" ... Please be carefull with fusion in space! Another question for any kind of alpha particle related thrusters: How many do you need and how do you guid their thrust in one direction in a cheap and realistic way?

  • @hiddentruth1982

    @hiddentruth1982

    Ай бұрын

    I would think you would need at least 2 engines that swivel 180 degrees unless you used some sort of vent system that could open and close paths. My min concern would be the reaction speed of the engines as the produce very low thrust. If it took a bit for the thrust to alter the course you would need to know far in advance to alter it. I am also concerned that they wouldn't be able to overcome gravity. One thing I have learned from these videos is most of them are pipe dreams. Like the ones on cold fusion. Great on paper but no way to put them in practice.

  • @nitroxide17

    @nitroxide17

    Ай бұрын

    They are using energy from the fusion process to boost thrust directly it seems

  • @MattNolanCustom

    @MattNolanCustom

    Ай бұрын

    I guess you have to hope that as the heat is mostly in the KE of the alpha particles and you are throwing them out the back, the only heat left to deal with is how much heat the alpha particles which were not already going backwards (50% of them, I'd say) impart onto the "engine bell" surfaces as they bounce off them. In traditional rocket engines, the bell is kept sufficiently cool by running the cryogenic temperature fuel through it before you burn it. In a big ion thruster, you'd probably have to use a dedicated coolant loop running to radiator panels to lose the heat - like the ISS has.

  • @user-pu2ho4ip3d

    @user-pu2ho4ip3d

    Ай бұрын

    Instead of thrusting... How about pulling..? Like a light Is magnetic rail.You will follow the path that is mapped without hitting anything. Reverse thinking..?

  • @MattNolanCustom

    @MattNolanCustom

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-pu2ho4ip3d did you just invent the sail-boat with a fan on the deck pointing at the sails?

  • @hamishfox
    @hamishfoxАй бұрын

    3:49 missed an opportunity to call it an alien pan handler..

  • @davidconner-shover51

    @davidconner-shover51

    Ай бұрын

    but they just be looking for fuel themselves

  • @StylishHobo
    @StylishHoboАй бұрын

    Have you not heard of Einsteinium?

  • @nosekills

    @nosekills

    Ай бұрын

    I believe in German the element is succinctly called Dermannderdieallgemeinerelativitätstheorieerfandium

  • @tedarcher9120

    @tedarcher9120

    Ай бұрын

    It doesn't exist anymore tho

  • @thomasdowe5274

    @thomasdowe5274

    Ай бұрын

    @tedarcher9120 Once was enough...:)

  • @stickpictures

    @stickpictures

    Ай бұрын

    That's an element, not a unit of measure.

  • @repairstudio4940

    @repairstudio4940

    Ай бұрын

    😁👍🏻

  • @bencav1342
    @bencav1342Ай бұрын

    Love your videos subscribed and watching all of them👍👍

  • @axle.student
    @axle.studentАй бұрын

    Thanks for the Video Sabine :) I think non chemical propulsion is a great idea, but I always become a little skeptical when overture is suggested and there are hints of a hidden battery lol

  • @tumbleweedjoe
    @tumbleweedjoe15 күн бұрын

    You are such a good teacher

  • @RobinWood-it6id
    @RobinWood-it6idАй бұрын

    Thanks Sabine, you're the best 😊

  • @eonasjohn
    @eonasjohnАй бұрын

    Thank you very much for the video.

  • @buckets3628
    @buckets3628Ай бұрын

    As someone who just yesterday through a random KZread video, learned the basics of fusion and fusion experimentation on Earth... This is amazing news!

  • @TheTikiMan
    @TheTikiManАй бұрын

    Hands down the best science communicator alive.

  • @grum5776
    @grum5776Ай бұрын

    I forget when but.... but I thought of this concept briefly in a fit of tiredness, comparing it to similar concepts using normal hypergolic propellant's. i remember being amazed at the possibility, especially in outter space because of the Shear amount of energy density of nuclear reactions.. im truly amazed that people has actually went with the concept and already gotten something that is even testable WOW!.. this kind of ''Marrying'' of different technologies might just get us out of our issues, truly a prospect to behold..

  • @Frazec_Atsjenkov
    @Frazec_Atsjenkov3 күн бұрын

    6:19 Project Daedalus was the most famous study that proposed using a fusion drive. Orion was a fission drive.

  • @RocRocket-cl3vc
    @RocRocket-cl3vcАй бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @luminiferous1960
    @luminiferous1960Ай бұрын

    The einstein (symbol E) is an obsolete unit with two conflicting definitions. It was originally defined as the energy in one mole of photons (6.022E23 photons). Because energy is inversely proportional to wavelength, the unit is frequency dependent. This unit is not part of the International System of Units (SI) and is redundant with the joule. Later, the unit was used differently in studies of photosynthesis to mean one mole of photons, rather than the energy in one mole of photons. Photosynthetically active radiation (PAR) was formerly often reported in microeinsteins per second per square meter (μE m−2 s−1). This usage is also not part of the SI and when used this way it is redundant with the mole. Since the unit does not have a standard definition and is not part of the SI system, it has long been considered obsolete.

  • @raktoda707
    @raktoda707Ай бұрын

    Brilliant suggestion for name of new unit of measurement

  • @hpgla
    @hpglaАй бұрын

    Love the new unit of measurement ❤

  • @trescatorce9497
    @trescatorce9497Ай бұрын

    a) the second equation in the video is 250% stronger than the H-B reaction. it's the one that gave the Castle Bravo detonation its bad rep. the neutrons generated should not be a problem due to the axis of reaction, which should be at least 45 degrees away from the spaceship, so all neutrons "should" add to the thrust. b) the H-Li7 reaction is twice as strong as the H-B11 albeit with a lower cross section, so a compromise using lithium borohydride LiBH4, using the Li6 and the H and deuterium isotopes should enhance the yield. c) then again, to rain on the parade, a solar sail gives 7-9 micronewtons per sq. meter, so 1 sq.km. will give 7-9 newtons of thrust, 500 times the power of the ion one and cheaper to build

  • @jlfqam
    @jlfqamАй бұрын

    Aneutronic fusion was also "achieved", at small scale, by the "cold fusion" experiments Heavy Metal elements in the catalysts composing the electrolytic cells absorbed protons and released subatomic particles.

  • @ro4eva
    @ro4evaАй бұрын

    Sabine, I love your sense of humor 😄

  • @supersmily5811
    @supersmily5811Ай бұрын

    6:37 Well THAT caught me off guard.

  • @thingsiplay

    @thingsiplay

    Ай бұрын

    Someone should clip it and share on social media.

  • @justink6513
    @justink6513Ай бұрын

    Brilliant! The best part of this video for me is your idea of measuring ingenuity. 1 Einstein (E) = 1 unit of innovative problem-solving

  • @EinsteinsHair

    @EinsteinsHair

    Ай бұрын

    But, not all problems are the same. If 1 Einstein is the amount of problem solving required to invent General Relativity, then most people are operating at the level of milliEinsteins.

  • @benjaminhampel8640

    @benjaminhampel8640

    Ай бұрын

    There is already a unit called Einstein and named after Albert Einstein. One difinition of this unit reflects the number of light quanta, i.e. photons, that are absorbed or emitted, e.g. in chemical or biological processes. One Einstein corresponds to one mole and is therefore nothing other than the numerical value of Avogadro's constant in mol−1, i.e. approximately 1 E = 6.022 ⋅ 10 ^23 photons. An second, conflicting, difinition of this unit is the energy in one mole of photons, i.e. 1 E = 1 mol × L x h x f = 1 mol × 6.02214076×1023 mol^−1 × 6.62607015×10^−34 J s × f = 3.9903127128934321×10^−10 J s × f, where L is the Avogadro constant, h is the Planck constant, and f is the frequency. I first saw this unit in an older patent (US 3749679) on a light-emitting chemical reaction. In this patent it was used to indicate the quatum yield in the form E/mol However, the Einstein is not an SI unit and obsolete.

  • @mofik26
    @mofik26Ай бұрын

    I love the Albert figure in these videos

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreationsАй бұрын

    Fascinating indeed... I'm not superstitious, but I'm crossing my fingers. 😊 Thanks, Sabine! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @jeddaniels2283
    @jeddaniels2283Ай бұрын

    I have never known anyone so obsessed then Sabine. Her devotion to mentioning the Isles is becoming legendary.

  • @MatthewSuffidy
    @MatthewSuffidyАй бұрын

    Ion drives are interesting because it is like the fuel is partially solar for example that gets added to the acceleration. So it kind of relies on the magnitudes of electrical power vs physical acceleration. Also you have reduced launch mass. Also I think they pulse it because it raises the electrical potential for the particle, which get fired then overall for a longer duration. My understanding it that basically in orbital transfers, you can add thrust as slowly as you want and you get the same result. For direct body escape, you want as much thrust as quickly as possible.

  • @myfriendscat
    @myfriendscatАй бұрын

    I like your Einsteinian scale. Makes for a good grounding in reality.

  • @procerusgigas

    @procerusgigas

    Ай бұрын

    Its kinda relative though...

  • @SkyenNovaA

    @SkyenNovaA

    Ай бұрын

    @@procerusgigas I like this guy

  • @DoctorOnkelap
    @DoctorOnkelapАй бұрын

    love the swipe at social media

  • @KevinCGleason
    @KevinCGleasonАй бұрын

    One must pay close attention to get your very dry humor. I think I love you.

  • @alanbarnett718
    @alanbarnett718Ай бұрын

    Shockwave Rider... was that a John Brunner reference?

  • @jimdigriz3436
    @jimdigriz34369 күн бұрын

    Oh, please. Even with huge earth based fusion reactors, we haven’t reached breakeven, using electricity from the Grid. Add generating the power to a spacecraft, and you might as well advocate unicorns and butterflies for thrust.

  • @roccosfondo8748
    @roccosfondo8748Ай бұрын

    Hello Sabine and thanks for the excellent video! Talking about propulsion, I'm looking forward to hear your take about the exodus drive. If you ask me, it doesn't work but I'd like to know your opinion.

  • @konstantinos777
    @konstantinos777Ай бұрын

    I like it. Einstein means "one stone", so one einstein is one one stone, two einsteins is two one stones, three would be three one stones and so on.

  • @liem107
    @liem107Ай бұрын

    Boron + H aneutronic fusion: isn’t it the same, as what Dr Lerner has been pursuing for years with his Dense Plasma Focus Fusion device? His approach in using plasma instability/collapse to compress the fusion material is quite unique.

  • @danielj.m5478
    @danielj.m5478Ай бұрын

    I have no clue what you said but this sounds pretty revolutionary 😂❤️

  • @grokeffer6226
    @grokeffer6226Ай бұрын

    Interesting stuff.

  • @rpstoval2328
    @rpstoval2328Ай бұрын

    Hello, thank you for all of your sharing. Could you please let me know, if there is a quantized world, what are between the spaces of the quanta? Is it mycelium-like?

  • @3zdayz
    @3zdayzАй бұрын

    That still looks like fission to me. Since your final product is 3 helium

  • @SabineHossenfelder

    @SabineHossenfelder

    Ай бұрын

    Well it's proton capture followed by a decay. So you can either call the proton capture "fusion" or call the decay "fission" or both?

  • @sdfsfmnsdkfsfdsfsldmfl

    @sdfsfmnsdkfsfdsfsldmfl

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@SabineHossenfelderFussion

  • @spaceman081447

    @spaceman081447

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@SabineHossenfelder Somewhat off topic, but when you were promoting your sponsor Opera web browser, the way that you pronounced it sounded like "Oprah." Not criticism, just an observation.

  • @SireJoe

    @SireJoe

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@spaceman081447What? You don't browse the internet with Oprah? 😉

  • @__christopher__

    @__christopher__

    Ай бұрын

    @@SabineHossenfelder Fission in a standard nuclear reactor is neutron capture followed by a decay. I don't think anyone calls that neutron capture fusion. So what's the difference?

  • @sgtcarnage2772
    @sgtcarnage2772Ай бұрын

    This is pretty cool to hear! Especially these days..

  • @frankhoffman3566
    @frankhoffman356627 күн бұрын

    I'm glad this research is moving forward, but the hype about it moves ahead so much faster.

  • @jtasakorn
    @jtasakorn24 күн бұрын

    Not mentioned was also the plasma temperature used to support the tests thus far. A fan of VASIMR, I was rooting for some sort of 'afterburner' to enable it as a fusion drive. The plasma production stage using RF (microwave) excitation looks similar. VASIMR developed thus far needs 200 kW power (via in space kilopower nuclear fission generators) to target 5 N of thrust. Mars in 39 days needs 200 MW; so if fusion drives provide a gain of 1000 times over such systems, it'd be worth it.

  • @rjjames9336
    @rjjames9336Ай бұрын

    I ove your information

  • @antonisgratsias5371
    @antonisgratsias5371Ай бұрын

    Sabine you gooood!

  • @michaelblacktree
    @michaelblacktreeАй бұрын

    Opera, not to be confused with Oprah. 😛

  • @Diogenes76
    @Diogenes76Ай бұрын

    Totally digging those Iron Man like animations. I need that as my screensaver / background.

  • @JAGFG42
    @JAGFG42Ай бұрын

    If you did it in a continuous pulse yet rotated the emitter, at a certain rpm, I’m sure you would get a water wheel effect that would propel you some what efficiently

  • @Prometheus7272
    @Prometheus7272Ай бұрын

    Having a small nuclear reactor to power giant high thrust ion engines would be the best option for long efficient space travel, it could also power the life support and spacecraft systems too. It’s also completely doable with modern technology too. Really technology that has existed for at least 30 years.

  • @hiddensquid42069
    @hiddensquid42069Ай бұрын

    With the show, 3 body problem and others exploring the possibility of nuclear propulsion in other space, a video on the different modes of outer-space transportation and their pros and cons might be a good topic to cover next( ie nuclear solar sail vs project orion shock-wave )

  • @kbejustervesenet7261
    @kbejustervesenet7261Ай бұрын

    I think, Sabina that the point is how much trust you get from the MASS, not the energy you throw at it. You have alot of Solar energy available, but just not so much mass.

  • @nias2631
    @nias2631Ай бұрын

    I'd love to hear a comparison with Prof Ibrahimi's Alfvenic reconnection thruster idea at Princeton Plasma Physics Lab. Or some coverage of progress.

  • @TheGuyCalledX
    @TheGuyCalledXАй бұрын

    I don't think the goal is to minimize electricity or to be energy efficient, but to minimize fuel loss. Most orbiters have solar panels for electricity production. The problem is it's hard to refuel in outerspace, so you want to get as much thrust as possible for the amount of fuel you have.

  • @brianmcguinness9642
    @brianmcguinness9642Ай бұрын

    Wow. I used to play with water rockets when I was a kid, and now they're actually going to be used in space. :-)

  • @user-ce5sj1ds2r
    @user-ce5sj1ds2rАй бұрын

    I like that Einstein unit of measurement 😊

  • @Reignspike
    @ReignspikeАй бұрын

    Fascinated lay person here. You mention opposite and equal reactions and that F = MA, but I felt like there wasn't enough time spent on the beautiful simplicity of that equation. Particularly in space travel, where there are basically no other options, you really need 2 things to produce thrust: 1. particles to throw out the back, and 2. energy with which to throw those particles. Once you have those it's just a matter of balancing other variables, for example: how fast is the thrust, how much other resource(s) does it take, how heavy is it, how long can it last, how safe is it, how much does it cost. Chemical rockets are nice in that they provide both necessary items -- burning AND throwing the result out the back are both done in a simple "burn" or "explosion" reaction. Thus, energy source and particles are the same "fuel". Additionally, these reactions happen quite fast, so both the energy and the particles are provided quickly. These rockets' advantage is the large thrust produced, but their disadvantage is relatively low efficiency and thus high weight. These lead to not lasting terribly long and being darned expensive. As you mention, though, they're currently the only way to get enough thrust to actually leave Earth. If you can get your energy another way (say, solar), there are several other methods to produce thrust. This video is about plasma, and ion thrusters are very similar (or a subset?). In comparison to rockets, these throw the individual particles (fuel) much, much faster, spending more of the energy on less of the fuel. This means less fuel required and less weight, and therefore over a longer lifespan. But they lack (with present designs) any way to do this in high amounts quickly -- the number of particles thrown is orders of magnitude smaller for the same space & weight. For non-takeoff flight this isn't an issue, so they're usually better (at least in theory) than rockets, especially if you can use a fuel you can find in space (like water?). To get off the ground better than chemical rockets, we'll need to find a way to throw the particles faster and convert energy more quickly, in a lighter package, while still being somewhat safe (I don't think anyone wants a nuke hitting Cape Canaveral). That's kind of a tall order and is why it's still being used over 50 years since landing on the moon.

  • @InssiAjaton

    @InssiAjaton

    Ай бұрын

    All kinds of brain teasers offered in a single vide and comments to it! I would add one. Think why you pretty much cannot keep using liquid fuels, when you have got up to low or no gravity region (and additionally are past the acceleration provided gravity equivalent effect). Where does your fuel “settle” in the tank? How can you push or pump it to the “burner”? On the other hand, how do you get both positive and negative charged particles of the plasma mismash shoot out in the same direction? Or don’t you care, given the 1800x mass difference, as long as the negative ones are electrons (and not heavy ions). Just for funny thoughts…

  • @JohnMillerDesign
    @JohnMillerDesignАй бұрын

    More power to the Sabiton.

  • @Leonardo_A1
    @Leonardo_A1Ай бұрын

    Hi Sabine, das was wir brauchen ist ein Antrieb mit dunkler Materie mit negativer Gravitation Oder Alternati Vorschlag Materie Antimaterie Vernichter sollte echt effektiv sein. Klar wir brauch ordentlich Inovation cu from Germany down town.

  • @osmosisjones4912
    @osmosisjones4912Ай бұрын

    Why not Use both types of thrusters

  • @dustinswatsons9150
    @dustinswatsons9150Ай бұрын

    Can you possibly consider making a video related more in-depth to the reaction using boron and water.. also if it's not toxic could it be used to power devices

  • @GeneralEase
    @GeneralEaseАй бұрын

    i wonder if 0.1 einstines is a refrence to the 0.1c that you could get from the particles out of a reactor for thrust.

  • @bazoo513
    @bazoo513Ай бұрын

    3:15 - Working fluid, that is, reaction mass, actually. Energy "lasts" for as long as your solar panels do.

  • @CasamTheAnimator2008
    @CasamTheAnimator2008Ай бұрын

    Now this is the real and actual bladeless fan.

  • @tsamuel6224
    @tsamuel6224Ай бұрын

    A 50% increase in thrust SHOULD mean compared to the thrust they got from the same energy in an ordinary plasma thruster. The reason fusion will work in rocket engines long before fusion reactors will make power is that a small % of break-even can produce a large increase in thrust. Generating net power output is way harder. Boron-deuteride fusion fuel has been researched for quite some time, but this idea of scooping up water in a 5 gallon bucket from the swimming pond and tossing boron in that to burn has got to be the most awesome method yet.

  • @yengsabio5315
    @yengsabio5315Ай бұрын

    I do not assume to know much about what Sabine discusses here. But that shockwave vis a vis social media... it made me chuckle!😅

  • @Thomas-gk42

    @Thomas-gk42

    Ай бұрын

    She´s so special...

  • @walterblanc9708
    @walterblanc9708Ай бұрын

    Very humourous.

  • @aeneas-sails
    @aeneas-sailsАй бұрын

    I've used Opera for years in Linux, good stuff!

  • @phantomcruizer

    @phantomcruizer

    Ай бұрын

    Me too, and yes, it is.

  • @aeneas-sails

    @aeneas-sails

    Ай бұрын

    @@phantomcruizer , It parses everything very nicely, and great features under the hood (Americanism for "nice internal design"). Glad they're sponsoring Dr. H.

  • @avenuex3731
    @avenuex3731Ай бұрын

    7:40 whoa! Haircut.

  • @daviddayag
    @daviddayagАй бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂😂 you killed me with “alien pan dealer”

  • @jasoncrawford2664
    @jasoncrawford266423 күн бұрын

    Keeping people interested in science ❤❤❤

  • @CultofThings
    @CultofThingsАй бұрын

    Can you do a video on xenon being a dark matter detector system?

  • @osmosisjones4912
    @osmosisjones4912Ай бұрын

    Do You have to travel through a wormhole to travel with a wormhole. The space pilled in a certian dirrction would create current flow of acellularated space .

  • @CodepageNet
    @CodepageNetАй бұрын

    once we can use fusion and electricity, is it feasible to harvest new propulsion material while travelling and keep on accelerating? at best meeting up with some object with the similar direction and speed.

  • @richardmellish2371
    @richardmellish2371Ай бұрын

    Assuming that the fusion reaction works as advertised, yes it gets you some extra energy, but for thrust you need to give your propellant momentum backwards. Where does the extra momentum come from?

  • @robertfoster347
    @robertfoster347Ай бұрын

    You miss why electric thrusters are more “efficient.” It is not that they use energy better but rather fuel. They accelerate the fuel leaving the ship to much higher speeds than chemical rockets can so less fuel is required for the same thrust. But there is a limit to how fast electric systems can accelerate. At best they can get the propellant to a few keV of kinetic energy. Fusion produced alphas have MeVs of energy and so produce higher energy thrust. It won’t produce energy but it may provide higher ISP for slightly more power.

  • @jordilopezfernandez3369
    @jordilopezfernandez3369Ай бұрын

    Brilliant, unforgettable movie The Flim-Flam Man

  • @erkintek
    @erkintekАй бұрын

    Make us a video on uranium vs thorium vs bor 😊

  • @JonathanMaddox
    @JonathanMaddoxАй бұрын

    Teflon as in polytetrafluoroethylene aka one of those PFAS aka "forever chemicals" we're worried about?

  • @DominikPinkas
    @DominikPinkasАй бұрын

    Some space propulsion does without throwing stuff out of the spacecraft, but rather hits the spacecraft with external stuff that already moves fast in the preferred direction. I believe it’s called “a solar sail” or something.

  • @videorowtv5198
    @videorowtv519829 күн бұрын

    May I ask where did you get your thrust values for ionic thrusters? 17mN is very low, generaly these trusters produce around 100mN and one experimental version achieved very impressive 5N

  • @marianagyorgyfalvi3659
    @marianagyorgyfalvi3659Ай бұрын

    I would also focus on the dynamics of movement, Tesla's model for water could also be valid against air resistance!

  • @Gunni1972
    @Gunni1972Ай бұрын

    "Riding the shockwave became the founding principle of social media" Literally Gold. But i still smell sock-waves. That's not confirmation bias, it actually stinks.

  • @jonathanedelson6733
    @jonathanedelson6733Ай бұрын

    I think several separate quality metrics are being confused here: energy efficiency, energy consumption and specific impulse. Ion and plasma thrusters by intent use far more energy per unit thrust then chemical rockets. This is because they are designed to have a high exhaust velocity, which means more kinetic energy per unit momentum. This greater energy use per unit momentum change is a net win because the limiting factor is available reaction mass. There is unlimited energy available (eg from solar panels) but only a finite tank of reaction mass available. Fusion boosting is _plausible_ for this application if it results in a higher average exhaust velocity, even if the fusion is a net energy consumer. A fusion reaction that consumes more energy than it produces isn't useful for generating energy, but if it increases exhaust velocity then it is useful for reducing the amount of reaction mass consumed. Jonathan _less_ energy efficient than chemical rockets. The kinet

  • @EricFletcher-ty8bq
    @EricFletcher-ty8bqАй бұрын

    Looks like we're a step closer to torchships

  • @Rupertthefallen6598
    @Rupertthefallen6598Ай бұрын

    Hi Sabine, Love your videos ! I would be warry of using Opera as an operating system. they have the lowest privacy assurance out of all of them. just wanted you to know !

  • @richardcottone6620
    @richardcottone6620Ай бұрын

    I knew it would only be a matter of time , when experimenting with creating fusion energy, they would come up with this

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