Ariel got beat so bad on his own show he called it a hate crime. Brutality

@UC32UC32

7 ай бұрын

😂

@NK-ne9uf

7 ай бұрын

Jewish fragility is real

@Surreal96792

7 ай бұрын

​@@STATOSHIcry more for Palestinians lmao

@rylewx

7 ай бұрын

Banger comment

@gerrymchale8965

7 ай бұрын

😂😂

Of course it sold no PPV’s. Only Ratwani swears that Francis/Fury was the second coming of Mayweather/McGregor

@chiquita683

7 ай бұрын

Imagine saying someone will now pay Francis $30-40 million for his next fight to lose them even more money. Francis has never been a PPV draw, he cant promote. Everyone else promotes around him and he stands there with a smile 🥴

@geeloco1600

7 ай бұрын

What did they expect it was at like 2 pm no one’s watching it at that time on a Saturday haha

@chiquita683

7 ай бұрын

​@@geeloco1600The actual fight started at like 7PM after all the anthems and garbage. They cant even use the early fight excuse

@bobchimpson7703

7 ай бұрын

well its better because unlike conor francis didnt get his ass by a geriatric old man

@geeloco1600

7 ай бұрын

@@chiquita683 not an excuse it’s called a reason kiddo

Chael's entire point throughout the interview was that Ariel cant use hindsight to justify attacking people for being skeptical of Ngannou's decisions merely because he overperformed during the fight. The fight still lost money, and it's not a viable business strategy for 99.99% of fighters to pursue. Ariel attempts to have it both ways by saying he never said every fighter should do what Ngannou did. In fact, he says the current champions should not do what Ngannou did, but he still demands people like Chael "eat crow" for not fanning Ngannou's balls for winning the lottery (for statements made prior to him even winning the lottery in the first place!) Chael clearly won if you can pay attention to how Ariel shifts his position and what he's arguing for. Like yeah, Ngannou managed to hit the extremely narrow window where he'll actually make more money than he would have otherwise. That doesn't mean it was the correct process that got him to that point. Ariel just agrees with that argument, says "but he won the lottery tho," and demands Chael apologize for saying playing the lottery still wasn't the best decision on Ngannou's part. He "wins" through shifting his position depending on what is currently being argued about.

@martyfromnebraska1045

7 ай бұрын

Sorry for the wall text I'm just annoyed you think Ariel won because the guy played some very basic rhetorical tricks.

@nobodyman4833

7 ай бұрын

Based

@zane4575

7 ай бұрын

Spot on Marty, and I don't think Guru sees Chaels point either.

@mohammedkhaliq1475

7 ай бұрын

@@zane4575yea, I don’t think he does. He’s also assuming that Saudi Arabia will pay Francis another 10 million for the rematch or another contender but there is no guarantee. I even think it’s unlikely due to the lack of interest from the public and low ppv numbers. This event wasn’t for profit and was intended as an advertisement/promotion to bring views and it failed to do that so why would they have him fight here again? I can’t imagine promoters like Eddie Hearn will be interested in paying him millions either because it’s going’s to be so difficult to make money selling the fight. Fighting in Saudi was the best case scenario for Francis and it’s unlikely to happen again.

@Satanictilatuby

7 ай бұрын

That was really well written

Chael even said, "You lied, UNLESS YOU MISSPOKE." Literally giving Ariel an out of the argument. BUT, Ariel is so vindictive against the UFC & Dana that he couldn't admit he MAY be wrong.

@gramanhfolcwald1597

7 ай бұрын

It’s hilarious because the hype of the UFC and their athletes are the only reason Ariel has a JOB

@jahmusicmansionwhererealre3920

7 ай бұрын

Well Heelwani also gave him a chance to Admit he was wrong. There’s that shrug 🤷🏾‍♂️

@jahmusicmansionwhererealre3920

7 ай бұрын

@@gramanhfolcwald1597and? He’s the premier journalist. He was covering the sport b4 you were watching. Big names including owners of organizations and too fighters, everyone wants to be on his program. There’s a reason for that. All the people who talk about him wish they had his pull.

@FalknerKnight

7 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure Ariel is a narcissist, so it is difficult to admit being wrong on significant things.

Ariel wasn’t that far off… Only by 10-20 million people. 😂😂

@babysealclub11

7 ай бұрын

Credible source 👃🥸

@EnglandLives

7 ай бұрын

Not the first time they have been off by millions 😂

@diegoherrera_23

7 ай бұрын

​@@babysealclub11🥶

@lovecchio420

7 ай бұрын

10-20 had to be millions made. It made 5.4 mil from PPV buys.

@Bossna91

7 ай бұрын

He was talking about amount of dollars not people

Everytime you do your Ariel impression I can’t help but laugh my ass off that is super accurate 💀💀

@celtic69

7 ай бұрын

It’s almost Marge Simpson

@Mama_Johns

7 ай бұрын

@@celtic69that’s hilarious my guy so real

@jezebulls

7 ай бұрын

I always thought Guru was exaggerating that Ariel squeal, but my god Guru was actually underplaying it. It’s worse than we thought.

@mikemccusker352

7 ай бұрын

@@jezebulls lol I know right!?

@JM-X0304

4 ай бұрын

Tell Matt he’s a legend

Lower than Amanda Nunes PPV sales 💀

@shadow_realm47

7 ай бұрын

Mike Perry has more ppv for bkfc. And DJ who was one of the most unpopular champs never made such a small contribution.

That’s not even the amount of calories you consume every time you order dominoes, what a joke.

@Devilm4n-cw8tv

7 ай бұрын

2 orders of wedgies, one large pizza, two cookies, one large drink...

@AlphaQHard

7 ай бұрын

@@Devilm4n-cw8tv Scratch that, just run your finger through the whole menu screen and make that a double.

When Ariel said in the chael interview he can’t wait for the numbers to come out 😂

@danabrownprivaledge

7 ай бұрын

😂😂

@calchedz

7 ай бұрын

Ariel Wormwani the best reporter in the business , award winning bagels 🥯🤣🤣

@thialhoinj1971

7 ай бұрын

Ppv buys can be 5 buys still doesn't change the fact Francis made more money than ever plus he gave the best fight ever against a boxer

Chael's predictions and suspicions about anything but who's going to win a fight are usually proven correct. Smart guy with some good sources behind the scenes of the fight business.

@Napominis

7 ай бұрын

Too much ego in the way most of the time tho…. He tend to stick to wrong point of view even when it’s clearly wrong

@chiquita683

7 ай бұрын

Chael said on his show that these numbers are even exaggerated. Probably less than 10k total

@dirtymerc1512

7 ай бұрын

You are exactly right, I mainly watch Chael for his knowledge of the promotional and business side of MMA. People forget he was fighting for the UFC during it's earlier years and through the era when it exploded.

@Napominis

7 ай бұрын

@@STATOSHI Francis is the most talked about athletes of the last week by far, what he did (and the outcome btw, a loss in controversy is far better for him than a controversial win) is a absolute homerun… and Chael knows it better than anyone 😉

@Napominis

7 ай бұрын

@@STATOSHI dude you just don’t understand, the Saoudies don’t CARE about losing money, it’s a investment for them, they spend billions on sporting events like that to put them on the map as a entertainment country… that’s why they sign them in the first place, with no hype at all, nobody cared… It’s gonna be a thousand time easier now with Francis new fame. Trust me, they will get obscene amounts of money from the Saoudies in the next fight.

Nobody ever said Francis wouldnt make money. Everyone said he doesnt make anyone enough money to pay him the money he wants. That has always been the argument

@godbyone

7 ай бұрын

Dana was right again. So sick of Dana dropped the bag. Dana is so happy

@chiquita683

7 ай бұрын

Fact.

@thenedsmmachannel8970

7 ай бұрын

​@godbyone why tf do you have massive spaces in your sentence...

@JSmooove98

7 ай бұрын

@@godbyone😂😂😂😂😂

@liibaan2000

7 ай бұрын

That’s cap

Nunes vs. Spencer and Nunes vs. Pennington both sold 17.5k more PPVs…

@ashervirin9698

7 ай бұрын

That was a ppv?? Damn

@jamessiarom

7 ай бұрын

AhahahahahahhahahahHaaA

@Slim-MMA

7 ай бұрын

@@ashervirin9698 Somehow, yes.

@michaelraven6325

7 ай бұрын

thats normal for ufc

@saljewsteinbergowitz

7 ай бұрын

@@STATOSHI 100% it's completely done for him. Now people see what he brings in. No one cares, and people are just impressed he did well in a boxing match... He doesn't bring in money, and he never will... Btw he never has even when he was in the UFC

Chael is still Undefeated and Undisputed

Even in the UFC, Ngannou never really had high numbers yet he expected to be treated like the biggest UFC star.

@SonGoku-ht5vl

7 ай бұрын

Tbf the UFC didn't do a great job of marketing him. Dude was the closest to the UFC version of Mike Tyson they ever had, he should've been way more renowned than he was

@whogotbarslikethese7563

7 ай бұрын

If the most marketed biggest company in your entire industry can't make you a star, you're not a star. And I'm not saying your criticism isn't entirely valid but if the people cutting the biggest checks if the people who get the most eyes on their product can't get enough eyes on you to make you the star you should be then maybe you're not a star. This is the most anyone's ever talked about Francis and he still is not a star.

@whogotbarslikethese7563

7 ай бұрын

If the most marketed biggest company in your entire industry can't make you a star, you're not a star. And I'm not saying your criticism isn't entirely valid but if the people cutting the biggest checks if the people who get the most eyes on their product can't get enough eyes on you to make you the star you should be then maybe you're not a star. This is the most anyone's ever talked about Francis and he still is not a star.

@JOK3RC4RDx

7 ай бұрын

Francis was just getting started especially if he beat Jon the numbers for this ppv don’t tell the whole story and how much Francis just did for himself bc a lot of people didn’t buy this ppv bc they expected Furybto dominate him it would’ve sold 500k alone if people knew Francis was gonna drop fury lol

@yarpyepiddy

7 ай бұрын

@@SonGoku-ht5vlthey promoted him more than stipe who was the current champion. Francis always had more promotion than any of his opponents

Based Chael. Undefeated, undisputed.

The only reason Fury-Ngannou happened was because of Saudi money, look at the celebrities that showed up on that circus of a show. There's no way PPV buys or gates money is gonna cover the salary for both clowns. Ariel is just Ngannou lover, that's his agenda since the beginning of time

@kevinblack7125

7 ай бұрын

He just loves anyone who goes against the UFC cause he's permanently butt hurt

@bignoseYeu

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 only reason why it happened

@stevenmantovani5077

7 ай бұрын

Until we get off fossil fuels, Saudi Arabia will gladly overpay, for any sporting events. So happy Ngannou is on that money train.

@mw238209

7 ай бұрын

@@stevenmantovani5077if we go away from fossil fuels, China will be paying him.

@thenedsmmachannel8970

7 ай бұрын

Mayweather vs Pacquiao didn't even have that kind of crowd or circus act with a concert

67K PPV on a no UFC weekend is crazy 💀 everybody bought UFC 294 the week before instead

@imma5761

7 ай бұрын

Imagine Dana truly cared and put like brutally good card. They would sell 10k lmfao

@DCshandle

7 ай бұрын

@@imma5761cared about what? Running the ufc business? Cause he’s got that under control

@gilbertoflores7397

7 ай бұрын

​@@imma5761it probably only sold like 10k, I'm positive a large portion of the ppv buys was from sports media people who needed to watch it for their job. People in sports media have to buy the ppvs like eveyone else, they'll be reimbursed for the else later or they write it off their taxes as a business expense. So s decent chunk of the buys probably weren't from fans.

@justina7794

3 ай бұрын

@DCshandle cared about making ngannous ppv bomb is what he was saying

Ngannou never has been a draw.

@tukek88

7 ай бұрын

He may draw a few more after the Fury fight.

@chiquita683

7 ай бұрын

​@@tukek88nope. In 2 months people wont remember this.

@TheStraightestWhitest

7 ай бұрын

​@@tukek88Even his biggest riders are already abandoning him. All the support he had was just from Fury haters. It isn't real. Want proof? Check the comment section on Guru's three Fury/Ngannou videos where everyone is on Ngannou's cock calling him a star saying this is a huge W for MMA while bashing Fury and boxing, and then check the comments here. They're right back to "Ngannou isn't a draw. Never has been." The way they were for two years before this fight. This happens every fight Fury is in. Everyone just rides his opponents. I hope Ngannou takes the money and ditches. He shouldn't mistake this for real support.

@Shiggystardust

7 ай бұрын

@@tukek88did you just debate your own comment???

@knowbody9679

7 ай бұрын

He’s boring

Na bruh, I’m not paying $80 for any ppv. Much less for a boxing match

How can Ariel say “I can’t wait for those number to come out” but also says “reported by me! Earlier on the show”

@bigolboomerbelly4348

7 ай бұрын

Why because he is the greatest of all time according to very official sources

"the greatest of all time" then cut to 70k is some of the funniest shit ever

67.5K PPV buys at $80 gives us $5.4M total. Francis realistically got a 5% split of this revenue at best, meaning he's earned himself a whopping $270K to take home from the PPV revenue. What a big fat L that is for Ariel's $10-20M estimate.

@sxosteron

7 ай бұрын

He would say 10.2 mil is still between 10 and 20 😂

@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi

7 ай бұрын

​@@sxosteronunfortunately he 100% would say that.

@mikemorris9902

7 ай бұрын

600k is still a fraction of 10 mill

@sxosteron

7 ай бұрын

@@mikemorris9902 nobody said otherwise

@danabrownprivaledge

7 ай бұрын

@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi1,000 percent

I'm actually starting to think Francis would have made more money in the UFC... Chael knows the game better than anyone... 67k is the worst PPV ever honestly 😬

@Inyourbox-kr5uf

7 ай бұрын

Everyone thought he would lose, and were trashing the idea of the fight even happening. Of course no one bought it, but they’ll definitely be buying the next one

@whogotbarslikethese7563

7 ай бұрын

Chale is absolutely right but no one's going to know that because no one knows what actual profit these flight companies make It's all speculation. He sat out for 2 years to do that one fight to make 10 million. In two years he could have had five or six title fights in the UFC He would have made two three times at absolute minimum more than he made in that boxing fight. His Future paydays make it bigger But if they didn't make the money they paid him back on the pay-per-views that they sold now why would his pay increase? The Saudis are a little crazy and they do throw money at entertainment events that they don't recoup on sometimes so maybe. But if anything this event really just kind of proved Dana White and the UFC correct. Francis is not a big enough star to get the jump and pay he was looking for in MMA. And he'll only really be that for 1 to 2 more fights in boxing. This allowed him to save face but it was a bad decision

@semyaza555

7 ай бұрын

@@Inyourbox-kr5uf and what if Francis loses the 2nd fight?

@adr0hub416

7 ай бұрын

@@Inyourbox-kr5uflet’s not forget he did lose.

@austindaily3091

7 ай бұрын

He had double ACL surgery so it’s not like he actually sat out for two years, more like a year

Fury isn't a draw like people thought. He's been getting less and less PPV numbers every fight

@SSHHUUBBYY

7 ай бұрын

That’s what happens when he dodges all the best fighters

@drunkenmmamaster419

7 ай бұрын

His fights are boring af

@danelynch7171

7 ай бұрын

Because nobody cares about boxing.

@Estroogen

7 ай бұрын

@Dantes230he finished wilder 3 years ago. Let it go.

@zzc787

7 ай бұрын

@@Estroogenfr, even their most recent fight (the trilogy) was over 2 years ago and people still hold onto that for dear life. fury fans call wilder bad and washed yet bring up wilder as tyson’s best win 😂 makes no sense.

It’s so creepy how much Ariel cares about how many 10s of millions Francis makes.

Ariel was somehow off by 150 times. I thought his people were good with money?

@KinkyCinderella

7 ай бұрын

are you referring "his people" like his colleagues or jewish? I thought the 2nd choice and laughed so hard..lolll not a racist but the timing was just so nailes😂😅

@whiteflame24

7 ай бұрын

@@KinkyCinderella He's talking about the J boys

@bignoseYeu

7 ай бұрын

​@@whiteflame24or the Z boyys😂

@bignoseYeu

7 ай бұрын

​@@whiteflame24or the Z boyys😂

@bignoseYeu

7 ай бұрын

​@@whiteflame24or the Z boyys

Imagine paying $80 for that fight whole card when theirs streaming sites lol

@rockyroad3779

7 ай бұрын

Not even worth streaming. KZread highlights were enough

@benmcreynolds8581

7 ай бұрын

I have been saying this FOREVER! PPV does not work nowadays. Only the people who don't know how to get around PPVs, still pay to watch them. They need to go the route of viewership & sponsorships like the NFL, NBA, MLB... I don't understand why MMA is continuing to stick to PPV approach. They are losing so much money due to how few people ACTUALLY buy PPVs. It's the most inaccurate way to judge an event

@chiquita683

7 ай бұрын

​@@benmcreynolds8581NFL NBA and MLB get most of their money from selling the rights to air their content to networks, not sponsorships. This is what UFC did with ESPN and ESPN chose to continue PPVs instead of selling ads for commercials like networks do with other sports

@RapYouCanUnderstand

7 ай бұрын

ppl buy ufc ppvs tho@@benmcreynolds8581

@IsaiahSZN

7 ай бұрын

@@rockyroad3779 I just stream it tbh, I got nothing else better to do but u right

Ngannou is to saudi what Bob sapp is to japan....i big juiced up half assed fighter to watch like a side show, the only reason Ngannou will make bank is because the Saudis love the freak show...not for his talent not because the guys he will fight will be a chanllenge but because he can go all in on gimmick fights with no testing, all juiced up... he went from UFC Champ to a 1800's Side show

@TheStraightestWhitest

7 ай бұрын

Bingo.

@sewiiijunior1809

7 ай бұрын

Hater, keep crying

One thing that no one is mentioning is how lucky Ngannou got with Tyson Fury ducking top heavyweight boxers, and that's the only reason why he got the fight.

@alansteel

7 ай бұрын

It was a perfect storm of things that had to go right. He had to have Fury ducking real fights, a promoter who knowingly was willing to lose tens of millions and that he would be competitive in the fight.

@DCshandle

7 ай бұрын

@@alansteelyou guys sound like you’re forgetting your tinfoil hats. Fury always dodges real fights fighting ngannou for a guaranteed pay day was an obvious answer. Boxing always loses money. Every big boxing event is a going out of sale event. It happened again

@emperordavid2044

7 ай бұрын

Keep crying clown

@gilbertoflores7397

7 ай бұрын

​@@DCshandlehe was in talks with the Saudis for the Usyk fight prior to that, when they were trying to set up the heavyweight tournament with AJ/Wilder. So when that fell through, fury didn't want to lose the payday and offered the Ngannou fight, which the Saudis agreed to do. It was literally a ton of luck that it worked out for Francis

I dont think chael ever refuted that ngannou didnt do well financially. He even said "10 mill is a beautiful number" Chael just said that nganou did as expected which was the 10 million but that the numbers were bad. Chael said that the competitiveness is what needs to be celebrated. I think chael got it 10-9 or maybe 10-8

@damondoran3945

7 ай бұрын

I thought Chael sounded like an idiot still saying this was a bad move for Ngannou. NOONE agrees with him lol

@jonathanrivera3400

7 ай бұрын

@damondoran3945 it was a dumb move. It worked out in the end but it was a dumb move

@damondoran3945

7 ай бұрын

@@jonathanrivera3400 It worked out but it was dumb...does that make sense? Ngannou believed he could hang with Fury and he was right. It isn't like Ngannou just got lucky it worked out...he expected it to and put the work in got Tyson as his coach and made it happen.

@jonathanrivera3400

7 ай бұрын

@damondoran3945 yea, it makes sense. If they asked you to make a jump that could cost you a great deal and you you know you're unlikely to make the jump but you still do it then it's dumb even if you make it. You made it but it wasn't a smart move.

@Bill_Dippertly

7 ай бұрын

that’s definitely not a 10-8. I don’t even believe it was a 10-9. I think because of the lack of admission that Ngannou would get paid more and the optics from that make it a 9-10. But with minor adjustments he wouldn’t ever lose a round to Ariel again. I wish Guru was in that conversation. It would definitely be a first round KO victory with reputational and the* mad bro depression would be the likes of severe CTE.

This is 100% vindication why Dana doesnt do these. One business model makes money. One loses money. If you only lose money at some point there aren't anymore fights.

@eveningstar7812

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. That’s why HBO and Showtime boxing died

Damn 67k 😂😂😂

@ryanrich7133

7 ай бұрын

He showed dana😂sold 67k and got slightly more than he was getting at the ufc

Chael was mostly speaking to the fact that whoever put this event on was clearly always going to lose money. So even though Francis got 10 Million it’s still a one and done. Nobody that’s in the business of promoting long term would ever have put this fight on. So sure he got the fight but that’s simply in the name of bad business for the promoters. Chael knew it was going to bomb because it was obvious nobody cared. Ariel was just so hungry for Francis’ wallet that he missed what Chael was saying, that The only people that won in the event were the fighters.

@semyaza555

7 ай бұрын

I honestly feel like Francis unknowingly helped someone launder money.

@kimborampage

7 ай бұрын

@@semyaza555 Saudi's paid for everything. they don't care about making money in these fights. their spectacles for marketing tourism

@hobochangba7638

7 ай бұрын

You are wrong about it being one and done. The Saudi’s play with a loaded deck and couldn’t care less about short term losses/profits of a couple million. The amount of capital at their disposable is unfathomably large. They are sports washing and it’s in service of a larger project than immediate payoffs.

@shnek5143

7 ай бұрын

@@semyaza555 that's how the pfl exists lol

@mcphersonjohnathon

7 ай бұрын

True the Saudis bet more money on side bets than the purses, its play money for them, sad none the less because it ruins all the sports they are buying out.

I think part of the problem is everyone just streams it now, promotions needs to find a way to monetize free live streams like ads and sponsors no one’s tryna pay for a ppv every week

@benmcreynolds8581

7 ай бұрын

I have been saying this FOREVER! PPV does not work nowadays. Only the people who don't know how to get around PPVs & still watch them. They need to go the route of viewership & sponsorships like the NFL, NBA, MLB... I don't understand why MMA is continuing to stick to PPV approach. They are losing so much due to how few people ACTUALLY buy PPVs. It's the most inaccurate way to judge a event

@Bentley7Cruize

7 ай бұрын

Its kinda weird cuz they do all that stuff anyway. They got sponsors, ads, posters in the stadium, everything that other sports have but they need ppv on top of that? And the fighters often get the short end of the stick anyway. Its weird and dumb lol they need to get better brand deals and stop milking us

@docrivers854

7 ай бұрын

@@benmcreynolds8581 true cause we all know that there was way more than just 67,000 people watching that fight

@benmcreynolds8581

7 ай бұрын

@@Bentley7Cruize definitely. I think about that too. It is just weird they shaft the athletes due to PPV technicalities or what not.. while even a player in the NFL, NBA, MLB who isn't a starter makes bank per season. So MMA and boxing needs to figure this out. Especially with how much these athletes are putting their bodies on the line.

@thenedsmmachannel8970

7 ай бұрын

​@benmcreynolds8581 dude those guys and the teams make so much money on ticket sales, merchandise, sponsors, and salaries. These guys are being sponsored by the cream of the crop and have sell out games for MLB like 100+, Basketball is 80+, NFL 16 week but in the US it goes down on Sundays for football. Those guys are in the 10s of billion in revenue

Guys Chael spits way more truth than you could realise. He works a lot of the time but you can usually tell when he does if you're discerning and in on his way of talking, you can read between the lines and understand what he's really trying to tell his audience. He entertains melts with the way speaks while actually spitting industry knowledge.

@DoubleGreatRock

7 ай бұрын

Nailed it. He lies often, but he’s not a liar because he gives a wink and a nod when he does so.

@mitchellrice

7 ай бұрын

Exactly he brought up TJ Dillashaws shoulder injury prior to the Sterling fight !

so nowadays tommy fury vs a non boxer sells 10x what tyson fury vs a non boxer sells? never in my life would of i predicted that one

@letmegetuhhh3959

7 ай бұрын

It’s cause they know how to market. Also tommy vs KSI would have been dogshit if Danis and Paul didn’t fight. Paul got a crazy reach and Danis did the best job to make people want to see the fight out of anyone on the card.

The Saudis are deluded putting these shows on

This was the main criticism of ngannou. He’s no where near as big as he thinks he is

@cidadearts4369

7 ай бұрын

Well he is now

I do not think he will ever sell enough PPV buys. Francis will now want and demand way way way more money. He prices himself out. He is going to screw over the PFL

@JSmooove98

7 ай бұрын

From fumbling the bag, to not fumbling the bag, to now fumbling the bag again 😂 You clowns are hilarious

@ant2011

7 ай бұрын

He's basically an executive and a fighter at PFL who can box whenever he wants. Why/how would he screw over the PFL?

@vitigaymer1053

7 ай бұрын

He needs to stay in boxing. Only in boxing do promoters regularly pay millions to fighters who dont draw and flop PPV's.

@vitigaymer1053

7 ай бұрын

Boomer billionaires love boxing and will happily spend 50 million on an event that makes back 20 million. 😂

@smeff099

7 ай бұрын

​@JSmooove98 he fumbled. One payday and then what? 65k with the biggest boxer known to man... how's that gonna sell in the police? 30k fighting a name you've never heard of.

Ariel is so jealous that chael works for ESPN and Ariel had to go back to his own KZread show because he was acting like he was a diva and no none at espn liked him. That’s also a well known insider ‘secret’.

Glad that you highlighted why it made sense Chael got so heated early on. Tired of hearing everyone hate on him for this. Usually when someone gets that heated, there's a damn good reason. I hate when people act like it's immature to act that way when someone else blatantly makes up lies, I'm like that too. I'll call people out and not let it go when I know they're full of shit.

@ivanmascot

7 ай бұрын

Bruh, when it's someone who you don't like acts butthurt it's cause they know they wrong, when opposite - it's cause they know they are right

I mean, even as a MMA fighter Ngannou wasn't a draw. It was impossible to him to sell PPV, at least, the same as Jake Paul. And Alex Krassyuk, promoter of Usyk, said that most of the famous people in attendence were payid for it, and that's not how the future of boxing should look like.

@PatkaBoy831

7 ай бұрын

@talldreamypossum Networks ike Netflix and Amazon? Hundreds of millions are being poured into the sport despite what mma fans say lol.

@matheusalves5160

7 ай бұрын

@@PatkaBoy831 Don't give him attention. He's one of the blokes that act like boxing and MMA is a "my dad is better competition". He doesn't know a shit about anything.

That did worse than a Nunes main event ppv

I knew that it wouldn’t sell many PPVs and that the Saudis wouldn’t really care, but with PPVs THIS low, very few will be willing to front another bill

@jordanj9069

7 ай бұрын

5.4 million dollars in sales… when you’re paying BOTH main event athletes more than double the total PPV sales, repeat business is not an option

Chael was NOT arguing that Francis won’t make money after this fight. He was saying no other fighter will be able to leave the UFC and enter free agency for a potential boxing match that’ll net millions.

@emmanuelmakoba6085

7 ай бұрын

Yep. I can see why he wouldn't concede

@aliedil5415

7 ай бұрын

And how he knows that? Anything can happen, for me the recipe is pretty clear: 1- Be the champion in your division 2 - Call out a pro boxer 3 - Hope for the best Now what will make it a success? Fighters personalities, and their followers number. For example: Jon Jones calling out Wilder after he beats Stipe, or Sean O'Malley Vs Devin Haney with a year or two of more interactions between them. Something out of the blue would not work, but in the end his point is incorrect, a fight will sell if it's a real test between two elite athletes, or if it is a compelling story that wound incite people to watch them fight.

@Ignornaceisntbliss

7 ай бұрын

​@@aliedil5415😴You're clueless. Not everyone has what Jon Jones, McGregor and Francis have. If Francis didn't have that terrifying striking power, Fury would've cleaned his clock, not to mention Francis wouldn't have gotten the fight in the first place. Jon Jones is the goat, and McGregor is a showman amongst showman. Also, the only reason Francis succeeded is because billionaires were bored.

@lewisreynolds5283

7 ай бұрын

@@aliedil5415I agree with you, everyone saying it will never happen again. Never again, that’s a very very long tine, and nobody possesses a crystal ball

how could there have been 6 million pay-per-view buys? IT WAS A WOODEN BOXING RING

His source was his community poll. The logic behind it is, if you’re subscribed to chael, you’re probably a combat sports fan. Thus, because the poll said 95% of participants didn’t buy the ppv, chael knew it bombed

@alansteel

7 ай бұрын

Or he works for the company that aired the PPV. Either way...

@shadow_realm47

7 ай бұрын

You could also half the final press conference numbers for a trending thing that the UFC uses as metric for mma cards. It was about 600k before the fight. So that's under 300k buys projected. Even if they got the full number they would have only made 24million which barely covers the salaries for Francis and Tyson and the cost to put the event on.

Wonder if Ariel wins that award this year? It would be hilarious if Chael won it 😂

i think ALOT of boxing fans didnt buy this out of principle. They felt it was nothing more than a pay day fight and just next in a long line of questionable greed filled moves by an increasingly unpopular and disliked Fury. Hopefully Ngannou will attract more buys next time

@imma5761

7 ай бұрын

Fury dodging real boxers and fighting semi retired 37 year old with bad knees and on debut who cant sell himself either

@thomasfowler8212

7 ай бұрын

@@imma5761 yeh did you see the True Geordie interview?? I know TG gets ridiculed alot but that interview really exposed Fury. I really lost alot of respect for Fury especially when Usyk accepted 70/30 on their fight and Fury came up with some BS excuse AGAIN. He has really tarnished his rep, and Ngannou's has gone up 10 fold. Hopefully PPV is better for Francis next time, he deserves it.

@dannyg2197

7 ай бұрын

70/30 is a fair split lmao

@GoodStuff1992

7 ай бұрын

​@@dannyg2197just like may/mac

@thomasfowler8212

7 ай бұрын

@@dannyg2197 @dannyg2197 Well maybe thats normal for boxing im no expert, but the way it was portrayed in the media was as if Fury offered it as a 'he definitely wont accept this' and then Usyk did accept and then Fury still turned it down even after that fair offer as you put it.

It was frustrating because the way ariel used the 10- 20 mil argument against Chael as if it was fact

@imma5761

7 ай бұрын

Reported by me. BY ME CHAEL. BY ME

@MuhammedAKh

7 ай бұрын

@@imma5761 😂😂

Even if Chael lost the argument, he won by getting that rat bastard out of his life.

The ppv was expensive 90 dollars . It should of been 50 and it would of sold over a million .

@shadow_realm47

7 ай бұрын

That's not how the game works. A ppv buy is a luxury, demand is inelastic. If you halved the price the demand wouldn't have gone up by 2 times, 18 times is way too much.

Ariel was literally trying so hard to get Chaels source for the ppv numbers, cuz Ariel had no clue and was pulling fake numbers out of his ass…😆🤣

I think why chael didn’t concede the point that francis will make more money in future fights is because ariel wanted to make him look like a liar from the jump and chael didnt want to let ariel “clown” him on that in the future to try and look tough when hes not on the show

@alansteel

7 ай бұрын

He directly addressed that, the only way that happens is if the Saudis agree to lose money. No other promoter will sign him for a one off deal.

@gilbertoflores7397

7 ай бұрын

Chael, being aware of how bad the event did, knew he couldn't pivot for a great performance into a big fight, because he had just proved he wasn't a draw. Even the Saudis might not want to overpay him if there is no audience for whatever sports washing they're trying to do. Francis isn't going to double or triple is demand power with his terrible numbers, and chael knew that. But Ariel was acting like the viewership numbers and Google searches afterwards would transfer into his next fight, but actually wouldn't, people only cared because the result wasn't what they expected and looked it up. Still doesn't mean eveyone will tune in for his next fight, let alone pay for it.

I honestly believe UFC saved money not resigning Francis. It’s the whole Fedor signing all over again. Every promotion Fedor fought in went under

@imma5761

7 ай бұрын

But Dana is cryinggggg because he didnt lose 20 million on, a dude who cant sell water in sahara

chael unfortunately isnt smart enough to come up with good retorts in the moment. the dinosaur example was a terrible example of proving ariel false lmao

Ngannou did lose. And Fury carried him to legitimize Ngannou moving forward

Just remember when ariel said ngannou made 10 to 20 million he cited himself. Any news company would laugh you outta the building 😂. How do we even know francis made a flat fee of 10 million?

@LuisScrivs

7 ай бұрын

News companies do not have a very good recent track record for verifying reports themselves. If you can't extract and interpret all the recent lies and misinfo pushed by mainstream news media then perhaps your opinion isn't very informed as well.

My dad who is a boxing buff had absolutely no idea Fury was even fighting that day. Nobody wanted to see this shit, Fury deserves this embarrassment for playing charity with ngannou

Francis himself said he’d make $8 million+ to fight Jon Jones… He would’ve made more fighting Jon when you factor in the UFC promotional hype machine and Jon’s history of hitting 300-500k PPVs consistently

@saljewsteinbergowitz

7 ай бұрын

Jones was hitting morethan 300-500... He was hitting around 600-900 consistently, andfrancis could have received 10% ppv shares.. That's insane. He would have made around 20 million, if not more

@martyfromnebraska1045

7 ай бұрын

The only reason Ngannou is going to make more than he would've made in the UFC is that he way over performed against the HW boxing champion. Basically, solely because of the fights he's going to have in the future because of his performance. Basically, Ariel is saying that Ngannou made the right decision not to resign with the UFC, and anyone critical of that decision years ago is a bad person because they didn't factor in that he could split decision with Tyson Fury. When you strip all the rhetorical crap away, and all the distractions, that's effectively what Ariel wants Chael to "eat crow" for.

@TheRenerv

7 ай бұрын

@@saljewsteinbergowitzJon only had more then 600k ppv 5 time in 15 fights he’s not that big of a draw

@Nameplease12blacknobility

7 ай бұрын

@@TheRenervlmao even his LOWEST ppv sale out of 15, is more than double Francis BEST is lol we get it, you LOVE ngannou 😂

@TheRenerv

7 ай бұрын

@@Nameplease12blacknobility I don’t care about any of them I’m Just speaking facts neither of them are draws lol

That amounts to about 5 million dollars which means the Saudis lost about 100 mill considering the production. Luckily for them they’ll couldn’t care less because they’ll never run out😂 this is why no boxing promoter would never of gone near it, the amount them divas want compared to their ppv sales is just ridiculous

Ariel saying "Sean O'malley shouldn't do what francis did because it won't work" is idiotic. Sean O'malley would make at least 5 times the amount if he boxed Tank

@Bentley7Cruize

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, if they both handled their business in their sports and were undisputed both sports would rally behind them. It would sell at least 300k but has potential for 500k realistically. They are both actual draws and if they build it its a really compelling match up

@saljewsteinbergowitz

7 ай бұрын

bro.... O'malley did over 900k ppv buys w/aljo and tank did over 900k with ryan garcia... Come on, it would probably sell at least 1 million. The build up would be insane, and I would actually pay to watch it. Sean O'malley, although he has the personality of an oak tree, is a great fighter and he has something about him that makes him very compelling to watch @@Bentley7Cruize

@nicholascoob1350

7 ай бұрын

@@Bentley7Cruize O'Malley isn't a draw either, but he could sell that fight well with the right people in his corner given his social media following.

@saljewsteinbergowitz

7 ай бұрын

@@nicholascoob1350 lol you're clueless if you think o'malley isn't a draw. Why was 292 such a success? was it because Aljo? Be honest with yourself. You don't even have to like O'malley to admit he's a draw.

@nicholascoob1350

7 ай бұрын

@@saljewsteinbergowitz Post his PPV numbers then. And what do you mean by "success"? That it made money? No shit, all PPVs make money. O'Malley is no more of a draw than any other fighter, his social media following doesn't translate to sales especially when most of his fans can't even afford to watch him fight.

I KNEW CHAEL WAS RIGHT LONG LIFE THE KING

Chael: i work for the company that put out the PPV Ariel: how do you know what the buys were?

For the last couple months, it’s been painful to urinate. I’m at the point where I’m nervous before I go and don’t want to speak to a physician. I’m afraid of what the tests might say. Should I keep toughing it out? I don’t know what to do and I’m scared.

@robertdeforest9682

7 ай бұрын

Sack up and go get tested. Whatever the results, you’ll at least get medication to soothe the pain, or at least start the process towards healing. That pain will only get worse

@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi

7 ай бұрын

Keep toughing it out, I'm sure it'll sort itself out.

In honesty, I'm more entertained by the drama than any Francis fight😅

And this is the reason it made no sense for Dana. He gets paid based on the PPV as the promoter. Zero incentive for Dana so even in hindsight he would never have accepted Nganou to box. It doesn’t matter how Nganou did.

I saw a poll he had on his channel and 100,000 people voted if they were going to buy the pay-per-view and only 10% said yes I would say that was a pretty good general idea on the percentage of people who were actually going to buy it

Ariel throws a rock, hides his hand and acts like he got hit by it too.

@PcCAvioN

7 ай бұрын

Ariel throws a rock, you say "you just threw a rock at me", then he calls you an antisemite😂

@TboneSTEAK111

7 ай бұрын

Typical Joo antics

@MrGiovanniPollio

7 ай бұрын

​@@PcCAvioNmost accurate summary

Tbf it was not at a normal time for the US market. The event seemed to be setup to make the most money off of those seats during the main event. They literally had a separate arena just for the main event. They had so many high profile people in attendance. I'm more interested in seeing how much they made off of the tickets. Those oil prince's are also trying to build that area up as the new fight capital of the world. They probably don't mind if they lost money on the first event they put on there. I'd look at it as an investment.

@ChucksSEADnDEAD

7 ай бұрын

Rumor is that the high profile people were paid to be there.

@franlovelsimic8421

7 ай бұрын

Exactly! They have so much money that events bombing in PPV's doesn't matter. Chael knew this. And they def flew in celebs for the event just to flex and continue establishing the peninsula as the new combat sports capital.

Here’s the problem Guru you think anyone not funded by the Middle East oil money will look at the 67k and Francis 10 million dollar minimum asking price and think “yeah I definetly want to do that” Francis may have just tanked his marketability. Because I know when a guy is asking for the entire profit of an event I might wouldn’t be sending in may guys to fight him

This is a great series 💪

Didnt UFC offer 6 million per fight if he stayed? and he probably could of caught ppv points. So maybe he could of made 10 million

@gamebred6995

7 ай бұрын

6 mil was With ppv u smartie

I dont think chael ever said it wasnt a good outcome for ngannou... He was always talking about the promotion as a whole

Chael’s correct. I have heard him talk so many times about making money in this sport. If any can track it it’s him. Dana had a laugh here aswel. Dana promoted the shit out of this guy and couldn’t sell. He knew what was coming

Yeah that's pretty bad then. So Nganu was paid about 10 mil to lose, and ppv only raised 5 mil. Hey, I guess he got a good deal

If he got 10 dollars per buy he got 670k. He made nowhere near 20 million. He probably got 300-500 k. Ariel is a hack and just couldn’t understand Chael’s argument because he wanted to use his hindsight knowing that Francis will have leverage and make much more now. Chael said it perfectly, the way Ariel described it was like investing in the lottery. Credit to Francis, he made him self a lot of money in future fights but if he would have been beaten silly like most believed he would have just money leaving the UFC. Good for him betting on himself because he definitely hit gold but the percentage of it happening the way it did is a miracle. I’m happy for him but if not for the Saudi Prince just paying for the entertainment it would have been a massive loss for everyone involved. It’s different with the Saudi’s just paying, if not for them this fight would have resulted in nothing because everyone would have lost money.

@PaulHipToBeSquareAllen

7 ай бұрын

Surely nobody is this thick? if he sold 67k PPV and got 10$ per buy he made 67k? come on bro, use your brain, it’s basic Maths.

@kh894

7 ай бұрын

It's just American ppv figures have been published nobody knows the worldwide totals

@gamebred6995

7 ай бұрын

Saudis Don't care or market their events on ppv. They pay them with their own money

The stadium was Dead That's how you know the PPV was a flop... No real atmosphere just Comp tickets...

You’re singlehandedly hitting all the things I despise about this guy. There’s a lot more I’m sure you want to talk about but can’t but I appreciate that someone is finally pushing back.

I’ve been saying it the whole time you can’t say it’s a win for Francis until the numbers drop bc as I predicted they’d be shit

@fangiscool1

7 ай бұрын

He got $10 million to show. It is a win

@KirbysFakePunt

7 ай бұрын

@@fangiscool1 he would have gotten 8 million to fight jones with PPV shares the PPV against gane sold 750k so yes it’s a win but that was never in doubt someone was going to pay him however he would have been better off in the ufc than whatever he’s doing rn

Fury carried to try and make Boxing look good and stick it to the ufc. Anyone that thinks this was real are delusional. It was a work

@Romanus-

7 ай бұрын

He made boxing look horrible, wtf are you talking about😂

U didn't need to know or see the numbers to know that this event didn't do well from a PPV or business standpoint bc there wasn't enough interest both in mma & boxing going into it, at least not enough interest to buy the PPV. Everybody thought it was a squash match without anything at stake, so why bother? But there are those who attempted to rewrite history after the fact/event based on the buzz afterwards, like Ariel & bc they were hopeful & wanted Francis to get even more money from PPVs for their victory lap.

Chael said it definitely didn’t even sell 67k. So may have not even broke 50k.

Great video dude. I love that you picked up on this and shared this story for us

He beat Fury and then robbed his management. Truly the Goat.

@danieljacot3083

7 ай бұрын

Lost to fury. Fury robbed the bank for more. True goat

@xrcvbn

7 ай бұрын

Ngannou is best businessman there is.

@doshvo926

7 ай бұрын

Robbed by Fury, Robbed his management. No honor among thieves

Chael never said Ngannou wouldn't do well financially in his next fight. I'm pretty sure he said he would do well.

Lol i was not looking to get into this but Guru I feel like u freakin killed this breakdown.

That’s what kills me about people who want Dana to pay everyone money like this. They don’t understand u can’t just lose money every time u put on a fight

Not even 2% of the ppvs Mayweather vs mcgregor sold. Absolutely fucking hilarious so much for that extra 10mil

To be fair I was one of the people who thought this was a huge mistake for Francis, and in previous comments have admitted how wrong I was after what he showed during his boxing fight with Fury. Now with that being said, if I was cornered by Ariel, and he did the highly disrespected "eat crow" bit to me, I would 100% not concede at all either. I genuinely believe that the only reason Chael didn't say that Francis won big with this, is because Ariel is such an annoying little weasel, that Chael simply could not give the rat such satisfaction.

@shadow_realm47

7 ай бұрын

I was ready to face the music too just like you. But Francis didn't sell well and he didn't win. ( I'll even concede that he won from a neutral pov) He got his money which is good for him but he always said leaving the UFC was never about money. 😅 I can't buy the delusion Ariel is selling.

Chael has never lost an interview

Was Ariel lying or was he just wrong? #ChaelLogic undefeated, undisputed

@chiquita683

7 ай бұрын

Ariel was lying, no one is that stupid to believe his arguments not even Ariel

Better think twice before thinking uncle Chael is wrong he's been in the game...

I just love it, Thank you Guru

Love hearing how. Dana dropped the bag. Haha. It was small bag. Only Saudis. Could afford

Guru, you need to realize that money made on Ngannou’s side does not totally equate to PPV sales. The Saudis can just pay these fighters from several different sources.

@shadow_realm47

7 ай бұрын

Yeah but Francis has a standing contract with the PFL who are expecting to make a profit on their investment. 💀 How are they gonna pay their bills if they're in the red the moment Francis steps in the cage. This is the Affliction situation again. God forbid a card Featuring Francis goes under, it'll fold up the company.

Every poll i seen had less that 8% saying they purchased the PPV, all were +90% saying no

To quote a wise man "I'm not surprised MFs."

People watched, few paid.

I’m not sure how much the pay-per-view was but I went with $80 because that’s how much UFC pay-per-view‘s are, so 80×67,000 is about $5 million. They made $5 million off of the pay-per-view sales. On average you’re getting about 5% if you get shares of the pay-per-view, that would mean that Francis made about $250,000 from the pay-per-view sales. Ariel should be ashamed of himself. I also don’t believe that it sold for $80. I think it was less that means he made less money. I’m being generous here.

@Killthebatman87

7 ай бұрын

that was just the US ppv buys though…i wanna know how much it was all together

@user-ki4ic7ry9f

7 ай бұрын

@@Killthebatman87 I doubt it’s anymore than double. Meaning at most Francis made 500k. Fuck Ariel.

@TonyF1MMA

7 ай бұрын

It was like 30 bucks I think, so more like 100k take home ppv money for Francis.

@user-ki4ic7ry9f

7 ай бұрын

@@TonyF1MMA sad man. Sad.