Funakoshi Hated Shotokan?

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Did Gichin Funakoshi really hate Shotokan, the art he himself founded? Was Judo founder Jigoro Kano really buried in his white belt? Did Ip Man tell the truth about the origin of Wing Chun? Today we look at some martial arts myths and celebrate the launch of our Forefather custom Art of One apparel.
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  • @themartialartway
    @themartialartway Жыл бұрын

    We as a society like to romanticize the past but they were real people who had real problems like us all. They brought a lot of good into this world and they should be celebrated

  • @mandomusic1292
    @mandomusic1292 Жыл бұрын

    Been practicing martial arts for over 36 years and I still love it! No one martial art is better than another, it’s what you put into it!

  • @mandomusic1292

    @mandomusic1292

    Жыл бұрын

    @@theradgegadgie6352 , That’s not what I meant. You’ll get the deeper meaning of these things as you age and understand. It’s about YOU, not about better.

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    To be fair, every person's definition of better is different, and there are other purposes to training besides just fighting.

  • @terrydawson2239

    @terrydawson2239

    Жыл бұрын

    Certain arts are "better" at teaching and/or portraying different aspects of combat (ex. close quarters fighting, traps, locks, take downs, level changes, basic kicks, dynamic kicks, linear movement vs circular movement and overall limb movement...must not overlook weapons...blades, projectiles, blunt objects). However in terms of mastery, the journey is often the same.

  • @kingartifex

    @kingartifex

    Жыл бұрын

    there are arts that are inherently worse and absurd (like no-touch ki sects) so I refuse to agree with this statement which is good-willed but naïve

  • @CBHDK59

    @CBHDK59

    Жыл бұрын

    i wouldn't say that. there are styles that fits in with another human body in movements and there are styles that doesn't fit in with human bodies, style that has nothing to do with fighting nor two bodies in fighting movements.

  • @User-rf3iq
    @User-rf3iq10 ай бұрын

    It's true. Gishin didn't even want free sparring. He only wanted step sparring. It was his son Gigo who introduced high kicks, additional kicks, free sparring, and lower stances.

  • @sassuki

    @sassuki

    Ай бұрын

    Partly true. Yes, Kumité was for him what we call Bunkaï today, but he always said to kick as high as possible (see his first book "Rentan Genshin Karate Jutsu" from 1925)

  • @rocirish76
    @rocirish76 Жыл бұрын

    That's something that has always bothered me. Throughout my martial arts journey, I've always studied the history, mythology, philosophy and legends... And most are just that, myth and legend. People talk about 'traditional' training style, which are what we can the way in which arts like Karate and Taekwondo are taught... but these arts, in the way we know them, are only about a century or less old... not the 'down through the ages' way that people believe they are studying a thousand year old system. Wing Chun, though there is question about the specifics of its origin, 'white crane gung fu' which purportedly became fukien and then was studied in Okinawa and became the root of tode-te, and hence kara-te, and Chen taijiquan, which have birth to Yang family taijiquan, and from there all other 'tai chi' styles, are maybe a couple centuries old... none of this thousand year old secret system crap. People get so caught up in the myth and legends, they forget to study the art as an art. Or they try to talk about the BEST system, and don't look at application, context, and in most cases rule sets. This can be very frustrating as a scholar that is also a practitioner.

  • @MaurizioPappolla

    @MaurizioPappolla

    Жыл бұрын

    P ok

  • @christophervelez1561
    @christophervelez1561 Жыл бұрын

    My favorite myth in BJJ is the lineage of being right up to Mitsuyo Maeda. Choque and Opening the Closed Guard does a great job exposing this. There is also the problem with the BJJ creation myth how it was made and modified. and yes I'm a proud BJJ practitioner of 10 years but I think the truth is more interesting than the myth that is told.

  • @sliderx1897

    @sliderx1897

    Жыл бұрын

    This shows u are a TRUE bjj practicioner. Not to be swayed by mythology or politics. But in search of the ultimate truth. Oss

  • @christophervelez1561

    @christophervelez1561

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sliderx1897 thanks now if I can have better technique haha

  • @guillermoletsworkitout3522

    @guillermoletsworkitout3522

    Жыл бұрын

    Maeda was a pro wrestler so he learned catch wrestling

  • @chinolatino9663

    @chinolatino9663

    Жыл бұрын

    Is there more to it? I would like to know the real story. Is BJJ directly from maeda or just the updates made by weaker brother Helio?

  • @sliderx1897

    @sliderx1897

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chinolatino9663 carlos never learned directly from maeda. Go read opening closed guard by robert drysdale

  • @tldogmeat
    @tldogmeat Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Well-researched and informative!

  • @kennethmullins5998
    @kennethmullins5998 Жыл бұрын

    Yet another amazing video. Seeing the martial arts masters as human beings instead of legends makes them a lot more relatable. It makes me enjoy my practice of karate even more.

  • @SempaiMarc
    @SempaiMarc Жыл бұрын

    Great episode. Very informative

  • @jimmybutler1379
    @jimmybutler1379 Жыл бұрын

    And not just style; but work able attack and counter attack that works without to much effort that you are not tired out; but win without being winded out for the battle soft and hard to get the battle over !...

  • @JamesMMcCann
    @JamesMMcCann Жыл бұрын

    Great content as always.

  • @IAmSkorp
    @IAmSkorp Жыл бұрын

    This is like the story of Preying Mantis, it was the 4th gen who coined this term, and decided to solely focus on the fancy speed techniques. They also split and named three new styles for almost no reason other than competition and marketing. By the 5th gen the original meaning of hook hand was lost, as 1st gen used Shuaijiao influences.

  • @kyleconger2109
    @kyleconger2109 Жыл бұрын

    These videos are excellent. Thank you sir.

  • @francoismorin8721
    @francoismorin8721 Жыл бұрын

    Good job researching!

  • @ruiseartalcorn
    @ruiseartalcorn Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Many thanks :)

  • @diosdadoapias
    @diosdadoapias Жыл бұрын

    I think, Funakoshi love his martial art style, otherwise, he did not taught it to others. His students named his karate style Shotokan. It was not Funakoshi who named it. Me think that while Funakoshi was alive and teaching Karate, he might just refer to his karate as Okinawan karate or a particular Okinawan Te style.

  • @adamkane7513

    @adamkane7513

    Жыл бұрын

    I wonder how much flange he got when younger?

  • @imasmiharbi842
    @imasmiharbi842 Жыл бұрын

    Good job on Shotokan info.

  • @TattooedGaijin
    @TattooedGaijin Жыл бұрын

    Love the videos, brother. I'm a martial artist myself and I have greatly enjoyed my time studying Shotokan over the years. One suggestion: if you ever release new designs for these shirts, go with something different for Funakoshi Senei. That picture looks comical, at best. I feel the kneeling image of Funakoshi that we all know and love would be a much better choice. Just a suggestion. Be well. 👊

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    I have to use photos that are confirmed in the public domain, and I wasn't able to 100% verify that one. Perhaps for a future shirt if I can confirm it.

  • @YoukaiSlayer12
    @YoukaiSlayer12 Жыл бұрын

    Very good. Though I would say Gigō Funakoshi influenced of kendo & iaido along with his untimely death had a huge impact on Shotokan that you’ll see in the raising split between Shotokan & the Shotokai that became more apparent around Gichin’s death later.

  • @amospizzey1

    @amospizzey1

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed they were both students of Jigen Ryu Ken jutsu The sword changed our style almost totally from the Okinawa Te / southern Chinese boxing foundations of Karate 🥋

  • @YoukaiSlayer12

    @YoukaiSlayer12

    Жыл бұрын

    @@amospizzey1 I do enjoy the dash or stepping from kendo & tai sabaki

  • @sthelenskungfu
    @sthelenskungfu Жыл бұрын

    This is awesome! I may have to get a shirt or two or three. I know these just came out and it's going to be a bit like asking a new mother to pop out another baby, but I would love for the next batch to include Huo Yuanjia. My grandmaster studied under someone that had learned at Jing Wu, and part of the curriculum that I was brought up in was lifted directly from theirs.

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! We have 8 more that are done and we are just setting them up in the store, and they are: Bodhidharma, Chosin Chibana, Higaonna Kanryo, Kenwa Mabuni, Miyamoto Musashi, Morihei Ueshiba, Motobu Choki, Kanbun Uechi. I will be honest and upfront about Huo Yuanjia. I will have to do more research but not sure they will make the list. I don't even know if I can get an Ed Parker on here. It's a balance between recognizability, demand, and whether there are good enough photos to use in the public domain. My Wife did all the graphic design on these. I gave her old, low-resolution public domain photos and she did a ton of work to restore them and make these compositions. We have 12 made total, the first 4 are up on the site and the other 8 will come in waves as they are ready (we're working on a canvas print of each as well for those who want to hang up a portrait). After that I'm sure we'll make more Forefathers as well as many other designs we have in early design stages now :)

  • @sthelenskungfu

    @sthelenskungfu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ArtofOneDojo Oh, I hadn't thought of that. I think he'd get more recognition than you might think. He's pretty popular in Kung Fu circles. A lot of Kung Fu schools have come through Jing Wu in their history. But finding a public domain photo of him might be difficult.

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    We just added 8 more shirts :)

  • @mizukarate
    @mizukarate Жыл бұрын

    Hi can you direct me too exactly where you got the information about the black belts coming from Japanese Swimming Arm Bands. I can't find any reference to this online or in books.

  • @mizukarate

    @mizukarate

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe that the rankings were originally only white and black as well as having a connection to Go ranking. In addition I know other colors were added. This being said can you do a video on the connection with Go(Wei-Chi) and the martial arts Mr. Dan?

  • @eisbombenterror
    @eisbombenterror9 ай бұрын

    No, Funakoshi was not disapproving Gigo's approach to Karate. Not really. Funakoshi himself clearly stated in "Karate-Do Kyohan" that Karate was at the brink of extinction (following the Meiji restauration because of the abolition of the Yukatchu class; Karate was an art of the nobility). In his mind Karate would have to change from a martial art into a workout routine for the general health and sport with proper rules and protection gear - Judo and Kendo being the references. The Dai Nippon Butokukai also had clear demands for approving Karate as an official japanese martial art, like uniforms, a rank system, competition and being distinct from other approved martial arts. This is actually how modern Karate has been formed to be the way it is today. But... Though Funakoshi knew that competition was a demand by the Dai Nippon Butokukai, he did not promote or condone kumite for a long period of time and he did not like the idea of competition. But this was exactly what the young karateka were after - including Gigo Funakoshi. There were several testimonials about this fact, including Mitsusuke Harada's (Karate Master - The Life and Times of Mitsusuke Harada). Anyway, the poem does refer to the fact that Karate was nearly gone and needed a new impulse to be saved.

  • @jackevans9328
    @jackevans9328 Жыл бұрын

    Great video mate. Just wondering if you were gonna do a mas oyama shirt also?

  • @aurelienhenryobama5434
    @aurelienhenryobama5434 Жыл бұрын

    Principles and philosophy of those grandmasters are necessary to know to become a person and martial artist

  • @214warzone
    @214warzone Жыл бұрын

    Mas Oyama has some Myth or 2. As does Frank Dux ☺

  • @blockmasterscott

    @blockmasterscott

    Жыл бұрын

    At least there’s a lot of film footage of Mas Oyama. Frank Dux on the other hand…

  • @OmegaSaiyanPrince
    @OmegaSaiyanPrince Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting.

  • @gerhardmayer6289
    @gerhardmayer628910 ай бұрын

    I have yellowbelt and allways in life ideas of shotokan often come back to sort the ideas great big thankx for

  • @gerhardmayer6289

    @gerhardmayer6289

    10 ай бұрын

    Me always must thing san chin wen chun qiu ta zhuang zai xu zai wan

  • @mikeyork3093
    @mikeyork3093 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, Please do a video on General Choi Chong Hi

  • @Lift_these
    @Lift_these Жыл бұрын

    I like you and Chadi’s channel the most. Oh yea and many of the BJJ channels also. Adam Chan is great also and some Silat also.

  • @michaelschaumburg589
    @michaelschaumburg5895 ай бұрын

    A friend of mine had a drawn picture of the old man. I doubt if he has it up anymore.

  • @powerplay4real174
    @powerplay4real174 Жыл бұрын

    Cool shirt ideas ! Shotokan was one of my two main styles the other is Wing Chun some say Traditional Wing Chun. 🦉 Ole School Karate is almost unheard of these days. ⚖️⚔️⚖️ Unfortunately and I didn't a little Shorin Ryu 😊

  • @adamkane7513

    @adamkane7513

    Жыл бұрын

    Shotokan & Wing Chun? Two very different arts. I can't see how you work them together.

  • @stephenkay6319
    @stephenkay63198 ай бұрын

    I studied shotakan karate under John Slocum in New York City in the 1960s. It was brutal, and many students left to study elsewhere. Now in my late seventies, I have been assaulted numerous times in the streets of a violent city and have won all of them. Unfortunately, the style he taught was very effective but did not protect one’s own body- particularly the joints and ligaments when hitting or kicking others. Nevertheless, he should be recognized as one of the leaders of American shotokan karate

  • @michaelbatts7149
    @michaelbatts7149 Жыл бұрын

    Will you being doing one on Kenwa Mabuni, the founder of Shito-Ryu karate?

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! He is one of the upcoming 8. You can see a glimpse of a preview at the 2:26 mark. We have the other 8 done, we're just prepping the listings. We wanted to make sure the site was up and solid.

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    We haven't made a video for it yet, but Kenwa Mabuni is now available :) www.artofonedojo.com/product-page/kenwa-mabuni

  • @evilxmetalband6532
    @evilxmetalband6532 Жыл бұрын

    I have Miyagi now I must get Uechi,these are amazing!!

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Uechi is available now! All 12 Masters in the series are currently available :)

  • @christopherblade5984
    @christopherblade5984 Жыл бұрын

    How are the tees printed? Are they screen printed or Lazer?

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    They are made on demand and printed using DTG (Direct to Garment) printing as they are ordered.

  • @CarlosRivera-se3si
    @CarlosRivera-se3si Жыл бұрын

    I order the Goju founder shirt last time.

  • @JJOrozcoMedia
    @JJOrozcoMedia6 ай бұрын

    Don’t forget Nai Khanom Tom, Bruce Lee, Helio Gracie and Don Inosanto.

  • @zondervangreek
    @zondervangreek Жыл бұрын

    We need a Motobu Choki shirt

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    There is a Motobu shirt now. All 12 in the series are up in the store :)

  • @Vincentorix
    @Vincentorix Жыл бұрын

    Shirts won’t shop to my residence in Nova Scotia.😔

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    They will soon! We're working on international shipping now.

  • @sliderx1897
    @sliderx1897 Жыл бұрын

    I need a Funakoshi shirt

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    How could we not make a Funakoshi shirt? The Miyagi one did well and there are many of them to be honored :)

  • @preppingwarrior8248
    @preppingwarrior824821 күн бұрын

    I need a shirt of Nai Khanom Tom would be great.

  • @lisaholliday9827
    @lisaholliday98276 ай бұрын

    I read a book written by Ip Man’s son, Ip Chun. He said Wing Chun was about to be trapped in an arranged marriage. But we’ll probably never know. Are you gonna make a shirt or any other merch with Shigeru Nakamura on it? I’ll be your best friend.

  • @shooter86-uw8ce

    @shooter86-uw8ce

    5 ай бұрын

    She never existed Wing Chun comes from Yong Chun Bai He Quan(white crane kung fu) That's why they're both attributed to being created by a woman Yim Wing Chun Fang Qiniang If you search out original white crane forms(not derivative styles i.e. crying crane, shaking crane , feeding crane etc) you'll see the obvious connection between them I'm not saying that there wasn't added evolution to Wing Chun, I'm saying it was derived from a existing martial art The same as those aforementioned derivative forms of crane...shaking, crying , feeding etc

  • @bennishimoto5554
    @bennishimoto5554 Жыл бұрын

    Hi there I was just wondering if there would be an announcement for the shirts I would love to get a few especially if y’all are going to have the Shito Ryu Karate master/founder Kenwa Mabuni I would love to order some for myself, sensei’s’ and Hanshi Best regards and God Bless

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! Mabuni is one of the next round of shirts! If you look at the 2:20 mark of this video, we show a quick glimpse of all of them and you can see him there :)

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    We didn't announce it in a video yet, but Kenwa Mabuni is available now :) www.artofonedojo.com/product-page/kenwa-mabuni

  • @bennishimoto5554

    @bennishimoto5554

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ArtofOneDojo THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bennishimoto5554 I just got the order request, I thank YOU my friend :) Happy Holidays!

  • @bennishimoto5554

    @bennishimoto5554

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ArtofOneDojo No thank you sir I messed up on the address I forgot to put suite C. For the address

  • @pavelsmith2267
    @pavelsmith2267 Жыл бұрын

    How to strike both first and last when beneath the shadow of the gun

  • @fishbelly789
    @fishbelly789 Жыл бұрын

    Is there a Kyan t shirt?

  • @keitht.ridings9632
    @keitht.ridings9632 Жыл бұрын

    You are propagating truth less the arrogance of those who fear being seen as nothing. Please keep spreading honorable facts over inaccurate lure. We think we know because we are told, when we get old we realize how much we have been told we were in fact sold.

  • @xride64
    @xride64 Жыл бұрын

    Add a Chosin Chibana shirt and I would buy it...

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Chibana is one of the 8 upcoming shirts, you can see a glimpse of a preview around the 2:20 mark :)

  • @xride64

    @xride64

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ArtofOneDojo nice!!

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi! Chosin Chibana is available now! We will announce it in a video soon but it's on the store now www.artofonedojo.com/product-page/choshin-chibana

  • @karatearmchairhistorian9825
    @karatearmchairhistorian9825 Жыл бұрын

    I am pretty sure that the poem by Funakoshi that you quote about the decline of the art was written by him as he was on a ship on the way to the mainland for the first time in 1922. Long time before Gigo made any changes to the art. He mentions this in one of his writings, but I can't remember off hand which one.

  • @combatsportsarchive7632

    @combatsportsarchive7632

    Жыл бұрын

    From what I've read, Motobu Choki hated Funakoshi for bringing messy changes to Karate when he watered downed and exported it to mainland Japan for schoolchildren. He even stated Funakoshi's Karate is not good for self-defense. Source site: "On Motobu Choki - Part Two"

  • @karatearmchairhistorian9825

    @karatearmchairhistorian9825

    Жыл бұрын

    He also said that Funakoshi's karate was like a hollow Japanese-style guitar, beautiful on the outside but empty on the inside. The dislike those two had against each other is well known.

  • @powerplay4real174
    @powerplay4real174 Жыл бұрын

    Yip Man is responsible for the popularization of Wing Chun, and was one who had a vast amount of knowledge, but he had Seniors And Contemporaries who very likely had the same teachers and a few other influences to their teachings. The folk who practice what is called Traditional Wing Chun call other systems modified Wing Chun. Both are good although I have a great respect for the one known as Traditional by Gm William 'Billy' Cheung of Australia they even claim he had a hand in helping train the young Bruce Lee and was the person who introduced him to the system. 🦉 Yin Yang ☯️ ✊🥋🤜🤛🥋👊

  • @shooter86-uw8ce

    @shooter86-uw8ce

    5 ай бұрын

    The only reason Wing Chun is as possible as it is outside of Hong Kong is Bruce Lee William Cheung just took advantage of the world wide interest in WC after Bruce Lee became an international star (in death no less)

  • @eugenerobson7333
    @eugenerobson73332 ай бұрын

    Who was the last samurai who brought karate to the western world?

  • @j.wright8157
    @j.wright8157 Жыл бұрын

    Make a shirt with Aikido's Morihei Ueshiba and Wado Ryu's Hironori Otsuka.

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Ueshiba s one of the 8 that are finished but we are prepping for the site :)

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi! We haven't announced it yet, but the Ueshiba is now available! www.artofonedojo.com/product-page/morihei-ueshiba

  • @Samurai161177
    @Samurai161177 Жыл бұрын

    What´s abaout Wado Ryu Karate? One of the best styles.

  • @whitebeltzack8373
    @whitebeltzack8373 Жыл бұрын

    No white-belt-Zach shirt?

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry, shirts are reserved for yellow belts and above.

  • @Dragonflyjones67
    @Dragonflyjones676 ай бұрын

    I'm starting too think Funakoshi encounter with Choki Motobu has something too do with this. Every encounter against Motobu made him think otherwise about his own art. Just a n inference.

  • @freehermanjose5816
    @freehermanjose5816 Жыл бұрын

    Gichin Funakoshi was knwn as Shoto. Shotokan was the name of the Dojo. Shtokai was the name of the group, the group of Shoto. Today's Shotokai follows Gichin Funakosh teachings. Shtokan follows Gigo's style.

  • @jonathanaldecoa1099

    @jonathanaldecoa1099

    11 ай бұрын

    I completely agree with you. Funakoshi is the man

  • @jkdbuck7670
    @jkdbuck7670 Жыл бұрын

    3:45 hall of what???

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    "Hall of Pine Waves". "Pine Waves" is the name Funakoshi used to write poetry under, so his students referred to the school as "Hall of Pine Waves" or "Pine Wave's Hall". That's the literal translation of Shotokan.

  • @falkschiffner6565
    @falkschiffner6565 Жыл бұрын

    I read somewhere, that Kano wanted to know which students know enough to be thrown by him for demonstration, these students where awarded Black Belt... so when he enters the dojo, he directly known who "will not die" when thrown around.... maybe untrue, but makes complete sense to me :-)

  • @septred3
    @septred311 ай бұрын

    What if what you teach is the heart and soul of martial arts rather than a specific style?

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    11 ай бұрын

    How do you separate it? Heart and Soul isn't material to learn, that's a method to train and an energy to find. You have to put that heart and soul into SOMETHING, which is usually where the styles come from. Having a broad general appreciation for Martial Arts and training is fine, but think of Martial Arts as a glass....the heart and soul are what you pour into it. They go hand in hand.

  • @septred3

    @septred3

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ArtofOneDojo chan interesting question Dan of this channel. The thing is you don't separate it because to do that is to stop the entire cradle of civilization of Japan from the entire culture's tradition of the only time white is worn is at your funeral, and especially for a dishonored buke social caste member/samurai before their seppuku ceremony that usually had an honor attendant at the ready to ensure the ritual's success when the use of the tanto didn't fully work, and extremely likely the fourth and truest reason why Jigoro Kano was buried in his white belt because of which he originates from.

  • @MrLouladakis
    @MrLouladakis Жыл бұрын

    i don't know if gichin funakoshi was against his son he surely left JKA disagring with the purpose the were using karate!.

  • @BFGalbraith74
    @BFGalbraith74 Жыл бұрын

    HOLD ON... how is Ip Man are "father" of Wing Chun?

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    We didn't say he was the "father" of Wing Chun. We said despite NOT creating the art, he was one of the most recognizable and influential figures in Wing Chun, and that's why we included him. He's a "Forefather", which means "Ancestor". In the context of martial arts that usually means a notable figure or ancestor.

  • @Lift_these
    @Lift_these Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn’t say Ip man is the face of wing chun; that would be offensive to the founders and Other Master’s that reached more advanced levels of development in the art and besides that there are many lineages. I’m saying that because, I met many a good practitioners that came from good back grounds. My lineage is that of the fut Sao wing chun and it’s legendary among the wing chun lineages. It’s rear to meet any of the advance practitioners because, our Grand Master was very secretive.. Training with him remind me of the movie ( Five deadly Venomens) because, of the secrecy and you never met all of his students in one place. Some time we met by chance. His name was Henry Leung. Right now I only know one individual I have been in contact with off and on and he’s out in Jersey. He however, has been in direct contact with some of the older brothers of that system. Just in case if someone read this comment and are from that family greetings family. I know when you come from such a family you have to authenticate your self. I was very young back when I met Grand Master Henry and I would either rearly be instructed by him directly in Motto street in the first place I met him in the 90’s, in the the hidden I trance in the bottom of the herbal store floor in the cellar. Then he moved to a different area down Motto street and we trained behind another Herbal store where I met Angel one of Grand Master’s older students. Angel was the one that taught me a lot and I stayed in touch with him most of the time. Then I met James Kama, Santos, a gentleman by the name of Michael and many others I can’t remember there names. I remember santos use to challenge other systems of martial arts and talk about there differences. It was a great experience. I miss Grand Master because, there was a few times I got sick and he treated me with herbs and acupuncture. He also had his own mix of dit da jow that he made, that he learn the the 9 finger monk that taught him the wing chun system he knew. He also had a wine he made out of herbs that helped with when we practiced nei gong. Yea but, I just had to comment about what was said about Yip Man being the face of wing chun .. There are many lineages and Fut Sao was one of the highly tested ones that was developed by being so called pressure tested in the shaolin Monastery. My teachers, teach was known as the 9 finger Monk from shaolin. You can look it up and read a little about him and my teacher. I eventually may start training again. I would advise Adam Chan. I think he’s awesome and would love to learn from him or get in touch with my elder brothers from fut Sao. They don’t teach as a school so it may be difficult. Being that Adam has a school it would be easier and also his method of teaching is very similar. However, one of the differences I know about, is fut Sao has a fourth form called Siu Ba wah, which is like learning to use wing chun in a pak wuah format. Instead of just fighting linear you fight circular; it also has joint locks… Like I said this lineage had a longer evolutionary period in the monastery… oh yeah some of the brothers have developed that nip lik power or pong jing from it because, well I must respect Grand Master and my elder brothers, so I will leave it at that. However, pong jing is not just solely belonging to Tai chi. Wing chun has Nei gong also.

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree with what you are saying, but unfortunately on a global scale, Ip Man is the most well known and well publicized Wing Chun practitioner. There is no disrespect intended for the founders or other masters, but the truth is, Ip Man IS the face of the art because he's the most well known.

  • @Lift_these

    @Lift_these

    Жыл бұрын

    Here in the us yes. Or according to the western world. The western world are notorious for taking claims for things that do not even belong to them… 😁

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lift_these But Ip Man never set foot in the US. He was known in China, and still is.

  • @Lift_these

    @Lift_these

    Жыл бұрын

    IP man hasn’t, which is quit obvious but, Bruce Lee has…. He’s the reason for Ip man’s fame in the West…And yes Ip man is known in china out of the many others do to film… However, if there was no movies and no Bruce Lee he would not be known like that where as the system itself has been known and predates them both. we don’t live in china so you don’t really know, what they know….Your basing your information how westerns assume things but, the information is not 💯 percent accurate…

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lift_these I base my information on talking to those who DO practice Wing Chun and are familiar with the Chinese culture. Yes, Bruce Lee helped make it famous, which is ironic because by Wing Chun standards, he was considered to have had poor technique. (He was gifted in martial arts in general of course, but as far as mastering a single discipline, he did not). If you're going to credit Bruce Lee, don't forget to credit Ed Parker as well, he's the reason we know who Bruce Lee even is and is the one who got him on camera. :D

  • @gbody2617
    @gbody2617 Жыл бұрын

    Hello, are you ever going to have a online program to learn karate from you and whoever your associates are? I would like to be a student someday.

  • @joelaubriel1529
    @joelaubriel1529 Жыл бұрын

    😶‍🌫️👍💪

  • @robertmccurry9343
    @robertmccurry9343 Жыл бұрын

    What no love for us Uechi-Ryu karateka!.. is it because of my ugly hands or is it the weird look of my fingers! Lol I'm assuming my style coming oh or or his student that killed that guy to the styles shame 😂 😅

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Kanbun Uechi is one of the 8 shirts coming soon. You can catch a quick preview in this video around the 2:20 mark :)

  • @robertmccurry9343

    @robertmccurry9343

    Жыл бұрын

    Man keep up the excellent work! I've been dojo less since I was in my early 2os my dad is ranked in Japan and Korea and was a u.d.t/SEAL Nam vet and all that stuff he's 73 and I learn from him every day even if it's just how to breath to controlling shock or hyperthermia or to control adrenaline so you have no clue how much of the karateka videos that motivates inspires and teaches me. I started focusing of Uechi-Ryu 4 years ago with a love of GoJu-Ryu as well but I've never had a GoJu teacher....the day my dad told me that my okinawan Uechi-Ryu really impressed his and said I far surpassed him I was shocked then when I woke up from being brain dead in a comma on life support for two months his first word were welc9me back son your brother dead I'm sorry but your karate-do saved your life...I'm not supposed to do karate any more my said only kata is ok so I'm secretary practice every day on stone my traditional post my gravel plundg bowls and practicing shailon Qi-Gong I've even been dipping into my Dit Da Jaw but I'm struggling to put my karate back on my path because of the T.B.I.and the no chi sou or no sparring so it's been karate videos keeping up going Art of One DOJO for life how ever long I got left

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Kanbun Uechi is available now. We haven't announced it in a video yet but he's available on the store now :) www.artofonedojo.com/product-page/kanbun-uechi

  • @robertmccurry9343

    @robertmccurry9343

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for the Art of one Dojo team members yall do an incredible job and I've been obsessed with okinawan Karate for a lot of my life well after the Tang soo do TKD and Hwa Rang Do from my dad a buds instructor and U.D.T./SEAL Ranger hand to hand Frog which was after being ranked in Korea and Japan but I also practiced Kung Foo Jun Fun Jeet KD and wing Chun and started Qi Gong and and some shaolin forms form a Deciple and I freaking love how you show case both Karate and Gong Foo elevating both the Chinese and okinawan Javanese arts and us the viewers and I use the one Art to better understand the other all the time or use my Kobudo to bridge the gap between Karate to Gong Foo Just know Art team yall are enriching all of our lives and it's appreciated!

  • @jossejosse-ln8io
    @jossejosse-ln8io10 ай бұрын

    es bueno pero tenia defecto daba las patadas muy altas y como boxeo regular y de yudo nada de nada

  • @gatocles99
    @gatocles99 Жыл бұрын

    Funakoshi wanted a monopoly on Karate. It is a good thing he failed in his bid for power and control.

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Where did you get this from? He was trying to make it available to the masses and he was against making it his own.

  • @gatocles99

    @gatocles99

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ArtofOneDojo Nice try. He sent students to learn/steal all the kata of other schools, so that his school would have the most kata. And he claimed his school was the only legit karate, even though he never won a fight. He had a monopoly for a while due to his government contacts. There is a reason he was hated by much of the Karate world at the time.

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Is there a documented source of him declaring his own was the only legit karate? He wasn't even the first to bring it over (just the most widely spread) but the whole wanting a monopoly on karate seems unlikely. He didn't even like it named after him and refused to designate it his own style.

  • @gatocles99

    @gatocles99

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ArtofOneDojo Yes, there are many documented sources. Both from Shotokan historians and from his rivals. Let's be honest... the Japanese Marital arts associations like Japanese corporations... have a strong tendency towards monopoly. It is OK to be honest about that.

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gatocles99 Of course it's ok to be honest about it, but that also means wanting to make sure that's accurate. I don't disagree with you that it's a possibility, but I only question it because it doesn't match with his actions or writings. He DIDN'T want it to be his brand. He didn't want it named after him. He didn't want control. He wanted to bring it to the masses. "he failed in his bid for power and control" - this statement seems very strong and a little drastic. However...ironically...did he fail? Shotokan ended up going on to be one of the most common and built upon Karate systems in the world.

  • @tk-fn8ml
    @tk-fn8ml8 ай бұрын

    So this was about others not shotokan

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    8 ай бұрын

    It was about a few things, including Shotokan.

  • @jonathanaldecoa1099
    @jonathanaldecoa109911 ай бұрын

    Shotokan is a legit martial art. I don’t understand, why it’s even an issue. All Okinawa arts are completely legit😀

  • @jgill6690
    @jgill6690 Жыл бұрын

    Lishuwen

  • @robertmccurry9343
    @robertmccurry9343 Жыл бұрын

    Karate is life and it saved mine! Was dead on life support for two months the Dr were going to Harvest my organs were flushing them a Dr I was told two hours before the harvest op tried to get me to respond which I did but only when he said can you kick my hand which I replied my feeding him my big toe Uechi-Ryu style lol he told me latter it hurt him for a week plus dad told me I was stuck in a breakfast pose permitly Hahahahah Sanchin saved my life

  • @robertmccurry9343

    @robertmccurry9343

    Жыл бұрын

    Breakfast pose? Breakfall pose

  • @siddified
    @siddified Жыл бұрын

    I don't think Ip Man belongs in the ranks of people like Kano and Funakoshi, not even a little bit.

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm curious to know why you feel that way.

  • @amhawk8742
    @amhawk87427 ай бұрын

    Yo don't take this as a fat shame... But how is it that black belts let themselves get so fat? As a black belt myself, I don't know if I could stand not being able to move as athletically as I used to because of my own poor choices. Fat karate black belts are so common now they're almost a stereotype 😂 Since martial arts are no longer needed so much for actual combat, I think the goal post should be shifted toward using them as a means for improved health and well-being as a form of physical activity. If karate is supposed to improve one's self control, how does someone let themselves eat so much they are able to offset the calories burned from training and actually gain weight?

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    7 ай бұрын

    "Don't take this as fat shaming"....then proceeds to completely fat shame LOL. You assume all weight issues are food control and bad habits, but sometimes there are other factors, or a combination. Why are all black belts so fat? You basing this on a handful of prominent ones or have you taken a look at the vast majority of black belts who are in decent to great shape. People like to dump on Kenpo because Mr. Parker and a few prominent senior masters are heavy, but there are MANY well known instructors in great shape. The stereotype exists because people are judgmental. It doesn't have to be. Besides, there are some heavy martial artists out there can that do some serious damage.

  • @amhawk8742

    @amhawk8742

    7 ай бұрын

    Ofc there are many fit black belts (most actually are)... But Karate seems to be the one martial art in which you can see a larger percentage of black belts being overweight compared to other martial arts like Judo & BJJ etc. And no doubt that many overweight black belts do actually have legit skills and could still do a lot of damage (and their size helps them generate force etc), but why would they not try to lose weight to improve their fitness which will in turn improve their martial arts abilities? Mastery is all about pushing yourself to the next level... So why push yourself in the skills aspect while not creating a plan to improve in the physical aspect? Also Ik that there are multiple contributors to being obese, but why focus on genetic and other variables beyond one's control instead of taking responsibility for one's own health? My comment most definitely was a "fat-shame" (in the sense that I was pointing out your weight) but I posted it with the intention of encouraging you to try to improve... Not to put you down.

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    7 ай бұрын

    I appreciate the intent but you make assumptions that the main reason is poor life choices. I've covered this on the channel a few times, could I have made better choices? Of course. But I also had some surgeries and life events that derailed my training and working out for some time. Not excuses, just the truth. "but I posted it with the intention of encouraging you to try to improve." The issue with this is you are assuming I (or others for that matter) are not trying to improve. I have made accommodations to my work schedule to allow for a few additional workouts a week (I work odd hours so I can't maintain a consistent dojo schedule. I train when I can and often on my own). I have made an effort to make better choices and I have lost 15 pounds in the past 2 months because I am trying to improve. I do strongly caution with making assumptions, even with good intentions, mainly because it's potentially trivializing what a person has going on, and it's too easy for comments like this to get mixed in with all the "Why are karate guys fat?" comments that come from trolls. For example, I found this comment sitting in the KZread filter before I approved it. It's worth knowing a person's story before advising them on any life choices you think they may be making incorrectly.

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    7 ай бұрын

    And for what it's worth I'm also only slightly heavy, I'm not exactly 300 pounds or have a huge beer gut or anything like that. I'm able to perform and move just fine (other than some knee issues).

  • @amhawk8742

    @amhawk8742

    7 ай бұрын

    Wise words about giving advice without knowing the circumstances 👍 Glad to hear you've been taking your health seriously over the last 2 months 👏 I don't think the comment I made implied that you weren't trying to improve, but that as a martial artist it's important to take the physical side of training to the next level as well as the technical aspect and take responsibility for the factors (diet & exercise) that are not beyond our control. Instead of being under 300lbs as the goal, maybe shift the goalpost toward something like being able to lift a certain weight or get down to a certain body fat percentage which'll be a better metric of keeping track of progress that'll affect martial arts performance than just a number on a scale? Cheers mate

  • @varanid9
    @varanid9 Жыл бұрын

    Funakoshi was the death of real Karate.

  • @petermcnallt12pm

    @petermcnallt12pm

    Жыл бұрын

    Not at all.

  • @blockmasterscott

    @blockmasterscott

    Жыл бұрын

    I disagree. It’s because of him that people still practice it. It was him that held the equivalent of a press conference on its existence.

  • @latetodagame1892
    @latetodagame1892 Жыл бұрын

    I was buried with my white belt.

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Is it hard to tie it in the dark?

  • @latetodagame1892

    @latetodagame1892

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ArtofOneDojono, because I'm a 9th dan grandmaster.

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@latetodagame1892 You mean you WERE a grandmaster. If you are already buried I'm not sure how you can practice anymore.

  • @latetodagame1892

    @latetodagame1892

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ArtofOneDojo once a grandmaster, always a grandmaster!

  • @gizmo9753
    @gizmo9753 Жыл бұрын

    Dude .... for god's sake SLOW DOWN!!! You talk too dam fast!!! sheesh

  • @ArtofOneDojo

    @ArtofOneDojo

    Жыл бұрын

    Just play back the video at half speed then :P

  • @GatodeUlthar666
    @GatodeUlthar666 Жыл бұрын

    Shotokan and shotokai are not the karate of Funakoshi.

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