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FullyRawKristina wears leather shoes & I don't really care
Kristina (aka FullyRaw) was "caught" wearing leather shoes (at least twice that I know of). The outrage has been swift, severe, and seemingly never-ending. Her use of leather, whether intentional or not, is not a big deal imo. I think there are plenty of others things worth criticizing Kristina for, things that do much greater harm than a couple of pairs of cow skin heels.
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Still wear leather boots I got before I went vegan. I don't feel like buying a new pair. I've been confronted about it before. Most people understood, some still insisted I was the spawn of Satan. lol
@MartianBlues11
7 жыл бұрын
nycsoul17 I recently got an amazing leather cross body bag second hand from a friend. She was going to donate it but she gave it to me. I don't give two shits if people don't like it. It's durable and I didn't contribute to the company that makes it. Folks are just looking for something to be mad about.
@xosecox12
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, even that Gary guy who all those Freelee types worship said it's okay to keep what you already have since the damage is already done.
@xosecox12
7 жыл бұрын
I have a leather purse I got as a gift before I went vegan and I still use it because it was expensive and at this point, I can't undo what happened. But I only buy leather and suede free from now on.
@xosecox12
7 жыл бұрын
And to MartianBlues, what you did is totally okay because that's buying it second-hand. Again, the damage was already done and you got it second-hand so you're not contributing to supply and demand. Supply and demand is what matters and what makes the difference.
@jeffk464
7 жыл бұрын
So what do you all do when trying to buy a new beemer? I guess you're all stuck with a base model Toyota Camry.
i have $800 in pairs of expensive leather boots that i bought before i went vegan.. im not going to throw them away but people still call me fake and stuff
@vanillavegan2341
7 жыл бұрын
Lauren Adams what's done is done
@Necrohermit
7 жыл бұрын
Lauren Adams give them away, donate them, and don't wear them.. easy as that
@sawyergreen4589
7 жыл бұрын
Luis Amador Or she could continue to wear them because what's done is done and it's not like she's killings animals every time she takes a step.
@MartianBlues11
7 жыл бұрын
Luis Amador Why would she donate them so that someone else can wear them? She already owns them. Her wearing them doesn't contribute to animal suffering nor does her giving them away lessen it.
@frontbutt1021
7 жыл бұрын
GIVE THEM AWAY? That is a lot of money man, super wasteful imo. I mean yeah that would be really nice if people could be that generous but some just can't be o.o She may as well just burn the shoes, easy as that
0:37 - I meant to say "Why assume that she even knew the shoes were NOT vegan." That's probably obvious, but whatever. :)
@MissMofet
7 жыл бұрын
Unnatural Vegan *unsubscribes*
@up4itgal
7 жыл бұрын
Unnatural Vegan Not sure how Kristina promotes "restrictions" in her diet. Have you seen the portions she eats?They are huge!
@saaaaltydaaalty310
7 жыл бұрын
A restriction doesn't need to be caloric. Cutting out huge categories of foods qualifies as restrictive. Of course veganism is inherently restrictive, but Kristina takes it to a troubling and unnecessary degree that has nothing to do with ethics and seemingly much to do with pseudoscience and dogma.
@tamaraarcher855
7 жыл бұрын
As a raw vegan you will be restricting a lot of foods from your diet.
@darkapothecary4116
7 жыл бұрын
chances are you can go into a vagens home and spot something that comes from a Animal. but I don't see the whole point of hating on anyone not vegan or are vegans.
I feel like you're the vegan mom of youtube constantly trying to calm crybabies down 😂
@gordenwood7853
7 жыл бұрын
Zoe Does Life I wonder if she has a paddle??
@thecharlieL
7 жыл бұрын
dimeface She's more like the vegan bully and the vegan who thinks she's better than everyone.
@dorkofmylife
7 жыл бұрын
dimeface she supports Monsanto! 👎👎👎 she's a narcissist
@aubreewatts9910
6 жыл бұрын
Yaaas!!! This is why I follow her and love her!
@jasdyer180
5 жыл бұрын
@@aubreewatts9910 Me too
Look, there's a really easy way to find out if she knew they were leather. All we have to do is bind her hands+feet and throw her in a large body of water. If she floats, she knew. If she sinks, it was an accident. :)
@AxenFrite
7 жыл бұрын
Probably before your time.
@NYChica23
7 жыл бұрын
He/she's making a joke about how, back in the Middle Ages and colonial days, that was the way the townspeople used to determine if a woman was a witch or not...they threw her in a lake, and if she floated, she was a witch and was immediately condemned to burn at the stake, and if she drowned, oops they messed up
@jeffk464
7 жыл бұрын
good point
@VerdantNight
7 жыл бұрын
'Monty Python and the Holy Grail' reference, FTW! Man, it's been a while since I've watched that! I wonder if I have it somewhere... :-)
@bo_trilly
7 жыл бұрын
hahah
I wear everything until its broken or something. I still have wool pullovers and good leather shoes. I think it would be worse to just throw them away :)
@theveganalien7091
7 жыл бұрын
Cruelaz Chonoholic same, I still have my old leather jacket but it's in good conditions so why throw it out? I just won't buy any more
If it were anyone else wearing the shoes no one would care. I am sick of seeing vegans attacking each other for not being vegan enough. It makes us look crazy.. people make mistakes, no one is a "perfect" vegan. Not supporting the purchase of the shoes, but also not supporting these hateful comments towards Kristina.
@dysprosium162
7 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@BloodMeridien
7 жыл бұрын
Since when is promoting leather shoes vegan enough?
@natyanayaki
7 жыл бұрын
Tami Torossian No vegan is perfect, but when someone makes a living off of veganism and particularly even by shaming people who can't afford a trust fund baby's raw lifestyle, they are opening themselves up to criticism when they not only wear but promote new, nonvegan products.
@xosecox12
7 жыл бұрын
DancingNaay We get that but this is about the way people approach criticism with bullying. There are vegans out there who tell people to kill themselves and other vile things. That's not productive or educational which vegans have a responsibility to be because of how few of us there are and the message we're aiming to send.
@BloodMeridien
7 жыл бұрын
xosecox12 Who's we? You and Swayze? Because she ain't arguing that people are being rude to Kristina, she is saying people shouldn't criticize vegans for wearing leather because they are vegan. Yep, a totally illogical argument which should be shown up for the muddled nonsense it is.
I haven't eaten meat since 1994, but I found a couple of leather belts abandoned a couple of years ago, and I use them sometimes. I bet if someone criticised me for it, the chances are they were born after I stopped buying meat and leather.
I'm vegan and I literally hate how rude a lot of vegans are. Like chill out. It makes me not want to associate myself with veganism and I understand why people don't like vegans or don't want to be vegan.
@morena5079
7 жыл бұрын
Fitness With Cait I feel like this as well, even more so since yesterday and seeing freelee's crowd. But in the end I'm not vegan for the vegans.
@CaitlinKershawPhoto
7 жыл бұрын
^Same, I'm not vegans for other vegans. Just do you and let people hate if they want lol
@VeganRevolution
7 жыл бұрын
You're not Vegan?
@rebekanickell8451
6 жыл бұрын
Fitness With Cait thank you, I am considering after watching this channel, (when im no long a child) but for a while I would eat meat just to spite the extreme vegans.
@justinedeschenes5178
6 жыл бұрын
I’m not vegan and I’m glad you pointed that out. I didn’t wanna seem all butt hurt, but yeah, I do agree. Not all vegans, obviously but a good amount are pretty rude.
From what I understand: she wore up to six pairs of leather shoes on her Instagram (and one on Snapchat that she didn't post on IG). What bothers me is she tagged the shoe designers Instagram - most likely resulting in many sales. (I read people say she bought a new vehicle with leather interior - if this is true she surely must have known it was real leather if purchasing a new car)
@anniejacobs6537
7 жыл бұрын
Candle Duck YES there is more to this story than people seem to think at first glance. It's the promotion that bothers me most of all. I'm not going to call her a fake vegan or anything but I think this is wrong from an ethical standpoint. Also I've seen A LOT of more positive comments which I feel are being overlooked unfortunately because of the comments from people who are understandably angry, but aren't expressing it in an effective or positive way.
@xosecox12
7 жыл бұрын
I think we all know that Kristina is raw vegan for health. She doesn't really talk about animals much. So her views on veganism are very different from ours.
@anniejacobs6537
7 жыл бұрын
xosecox12 in her video of why she went vegan she told a story and said that it was for ethical reasons she went vegan. She also has had videos/pictures of herself with animals kissing at them and making comments about loving them and peace and such. Of course it could have changed since then but her past shows she cared about the animals.
@xosecox12
7 жыл бұрын
Annie Jacobs I know, I'm seeing those videos. I'm saying her focus is on health and what she talks the most about, especially recently. I'm not saying she doesn't care about animals at all, just that health is her priority and the main focus of her channel so we shouldn't be freaking out over her shoes when things like that haven't really been a big discussion on her channel and you come to her knowing her channel is nutrition and fitness focused.
@xosecox12
7 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that the promotion is wrong but I just don't think anyone should be surprised and that there were hints leading up to this.
It's really disappointing though, that someone who has been vegan for so long and is a role model to so many people (not sure why but anyway) to not only wear leather shoes but basically advertise them on her instagram.
@natyanayaki
7 жыл бұрын
happyvegemite she's an elitist charlatan.
@Bluey1252
7 жыл бұрын
happyvegemite i find a lot of what she says is kind of pseudoscience, but that's just my views on what she does :)
@musicmylifesince1993
7 жыл бұрын
Pseudoscience, yes, I don't personally follow her and I would never eat a raw vegan diet long term, but it doesn't change the fact she has a large following and is promoting cruelty to them.
@MargotDemi
7 жыл бұрын
Yep.. she even tagged the designer so she could get a quick sponser.. didn't remove the image just blocked the comments
@soulspark3970
7 жыл бұрын
You give these people too much power. In the end they are just humans like the rest of us. Stop putting people so much on a pedestal.
Kristina is what I like to call a "high horse vegan". Someone who is very pretentious about their vegan lifestyle. So yeah, I think she deserves the hate for this to be honest. When you're a public person and you constantly portray your way to be the only right way, you should be VERY careful with what you post on social media.
@AgeofAge
7 жыл бұрын
On top of that, who is forcing Kristina to have the job she has? She probably has the resources to quit and move into another area of work. So yeah, if you're gonna put yourself out there as this raw vegan goddess and MAKE A BUSINESS OUT OF IT then hells yeah I'm going to criticize that person when they deserve it. Jesus fucking christ what is with this attitude that vegans online are serfs who can't change jobs?
@natyanayaki
7 жыл бұрын
Rebekka Kristina has no problem shaming people who weren't fortunate enough to have access to Daddy's eco-unfriendly oil money by implying that people who aren't rich enough to practice her eco-unfriendly, relatively unhealthy raw diets don't care about their or their family's health. She's even less sympathetic than Freelee, Durianrider, or Vegsource.
@jeffk464
7 жыл бұрын
She is different than freelee and durianrider in that she comes across as a friendly non-confrontational person.
@rebekkiej
7 жыл бұрын
Jeff K yeah, she knows that will get her more views.. I kind of find it a lil fake
@velourbutterfly
7 жыл бұрын
Rebekka Amen to this so many times.
Right! Some vegans actually believe that name calling, and putting people down is the best way to promote vegansim.
@4BoardAllDay4
7 жыл бұрын
Its understandable why vegans tend to be frustrated, but some are just wayyy too narrow minded, they don't realize what implications being rude to someone has, when their intention is to awaken them to the reality of animal agriculture. Being rude = people getting defensive. Give respect and you receive respect. (most of the time) Such a hard concept I know. (eye roll)
@xosecox12
7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Most vegans were not born vegan and should understand the misconceptions they used to have themselves. Some people live in places where no one talks about veganism and it's a completely foreign idea to them. It's not that person's fault. Of course they'll be alarmed by being told their way of eating should change. It's a lot to take in and everyone has a different learning process. Some do it overnight and some do it one step at a time. It amazes me that some vegans call people idiots or swear at them and then expect them to be convinced to go vegan. I had someone in the comment section say I convinced them to consider veganism again because I was proof to them that not all vegans are terrible. Being kind works. I think a lot of vegans are misanthropes after becoming aware of animal cruelty and it's caused them to forget how to have empathy and compassion for humans.
@jeffk464
7 жыл бұрын
Yup, just makes you think wow I really don't want to a member of that super angry cult.
@marialbert9096
7 жыл бұрын
+Notthefather, you are right, the best way to promote veganism is to wear calf skin shoes and call yourself a vegan.
@notthefather3919
7 жыл бұрын
Marina Albert boohoo.
Would love to see you in road rage mode.
@alluneedislessthan3
7 жыл бұрын
TheMotherfer for real!! She's always so calm and collected it'd be hilarious to see her go off on someone haha
@libera7161
7 жыл бұрын
alluneedislessthan3 she is too intelligent for that, no one could argue with her and make her angry, she just knows better.
i'd feel sympathetic to almost anyone else. kristina is rich, she has the money and time to do her research, she has the ability to donate her old expensive leather shoes and still get new, expensive vegan shoes, a couple years ago she got a new porsche with leather seats (instead of customizing it), all the while she's spreading an elitist diet, and pseudoscience in order to get attention and more money -- and does it in a way that shames people who cannot afford the only diet she recommends. she knows veganism is her brand, if she wants yo continue to use it for fame and money then she should remember not to promote leather goods.
@libera7161
7 жыл бұрын
DancingNaay hm, to me it sounds like that she is just ignorant. Maybe she doesn't know where leather comes from. I know this sounds ridiculous but believe me people are very very ignorant.
@natyanayaki
7 жыл бұрын
Alice She's not ignorant, she's been vegan for over a decade, she's studied at a top University. She's a con-artist.
@libera7161
7 жыл бұрын
***** and still she could have failed to inform herself about leather, because she just didn't. Hey, there excist doctors, professors and so on, who doesn't know that a cow has to bear a calf to produce milk. Why? Because they just don't think or question it.
@natyanayaki
7 жыл бұрын
Alice Ignorance is understandable and excusable, willful ignorance is not. If it's true that she (an educated adult) was somehow unaware that leather production is harmful to people, or somehow that leather production involves harming animals then she if she cared to be educated she would have been when people reacted to her having purchased a NEW Porsche with leather seats. If she is still ignorant, it's because she doesn't want to know and then doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt -- not that a rich, trust fund baby, who shames people who aren't as rich as she is ever deserves the benefit of the doubt.
@libera7161
7 жыл бұрын
***** I understand were you comming from. My intention was never to defend her. You seem to know more about her than me. To me she is just some KZreadr. I didn't know that something like that already happened. Well people like her will always excist and if they are willfully ignorant, calling names and being angry on them won't change their mind. She choose what's important to her.
This isn't the first instance Kristina has used non-vegan products. She also intentionally uses honey as a hair treatment, and has defended it by saying it is her grandmother's recipe. She only eats vegan food, but has proven many times that she doesn't care if other products she puts on her body are vegan or ethical.
When you're promoting things, it's your responsibility to check that it represents the message you're sending. She has a car with leather seats, has promoted leather shoes in the past and brushed off the 'hate' (criticism would be a better term) when it's been on a smaller scale. She has registered in the past that her shoes are leather. This could have easily been a non-issue if she'd have referred to herself as plant based rather than vegan, but alas her brand is built on veganism. Sure, there are bigger issues out there and I don't agree with the sheer amount of hatred some are putting towards her but she's a 'vegan' wearing dead cows on her feet. That's it. She's killing cows and promoting it when she easily could choose not to. Hopefully as a result of this criticism she'll stop promoting leather to her followers but quit using the excuse of "oh there are bigger things to worry about at least her diet is vegan" when that's such bs.
@velourbutterfly
7 жыл бұрын
JarvisChrist Agreed.
I don't think people should call her a "bitch", but I don't see anything wrong with calling out hypocrisy. Like, don't attack and be nasty but if you say "why are you wearing leather?" and she ignores it, as she seems to be doing, then if you are an ethical vegan it makes complete sense to stop supporting her. Kristina has been vegan for away too long to make the mistake of buying leather shoes. If you care about animals, that is one of the 1st things you check for when buying something that appears "leather-y". It's pretty clear that Kristina just thought the shoes were cute & put fashion (or possibly money she was paid to advertise the shoes?) before her morals and the animals. She is constantly preaching love & kindness so her fans have a right to be pissed that she would support the slaughter of an animal for something she doesn't need. Not to mention that leather production is legitimately one of the most toxic processes out there so despite her "all natural" bs, she is supporting that too. This isn't even a matter of vegans being too picky at this point. She is just straight up misrepresenting herself to millions of people which is sleazy af. You cant call yourself an all natural, ethical vegan and buy leather shoes. Normally your videos are pretty logical, but using the argument that people should be more mad about her pseudoscience approach to diet & wellness instead of her wearing leather is creating a strawman. I'm not a fan of hers at all. I think the lifestyle she promotes is ridiculous. But I think it's even more ridiculous that she promotes that craziness and is a hypocrite on top of it. If she just promoted a vegan diet, but didn't speak on ethical issues, then her wearing leather wouldn't matter imo. But if you claim to be an ethical vegan then knowingly buy leather shoes then you are just being a liar.
@natyanayaki
7 жыл бұрын
Goopy Carbonara well said, thank you!
@moirosalina
7 жыл бұрын
what if..people would just try to be a good person themselves and not pay sooooooo mucht attention to other peoples choices..??
@GoopyCarbonaraaa
7 жыл бұрын
Kees If she doesn't want people to pay attention to her choices she wouldn't make a KZread channel on which she promotes her lifestyle as the best one out there. She literally haves a living off of selling her choices to people. If she doesn't want criticism she should either stop being a lifestyle guru or stop being a hypocrite.
@moirosalina
7 жыл бұрын
fair enough
@velourbutterfly
7 жыл бұрын
Goopy Carbonara I couldn't agree more. This isn't about being picky or judgemental.
And of course Freelee just made a video about Kristina's shoes and of coursed used animal abuse video clips in order to propel her over 700,000 followers to hate on Kristina. Which worked because after her video was posted more and more hateful comments were posted on Kristina's IG and youtube video. What I don't understand is how Freelee has not learned her lesson. She is not perfect (neither am I) She adopted TWO dogs (I know you remember this) and when she didn't feel the fitted her lifestyle anymore she went ahead and gave them away. Some people would not consider that vegan. (not trying to start the argument as to who is more vegan lol just trying to make a point) She has breast implants (nothing wrong with that but they are not vegan) she has used botox (again not vegan). My point is, none of us are perfect and attacking (literally attacking and sending others to attack) other vegans is NOT helpful. We try our best and that is all we can do. Kristina wearing a pair of leather shoes is not the worse a person can do. Seriously
@sozuruQ2
7 жыл бұрын
Fruitveganful Martenson "gave them away" yeah fucking right. We all know that freelee killed figsy starving that poor dog only feeding her bananas and no meat
@BloodMeridien
7 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed, you profit handsomely from child slave labor you hyprocrit.
@mindoverbread1213
7 жыл бұрын
BloodMeridien I think you misspelled WE..We benefit from child labor
@mindoverbread1213
7 жыл бұрын
Mcgyver I also wear underwear, bras, drive a car, etc etc. What's your point? did you not read my comment? or do you have reading and comprehension issues?
@eringovoni4416
6 жыл бұрын
Fruitveganful Mart umm I find that incredibly ethical. If you decide to adopt and animal instead of purchase one, get it out of a shelter that is good. If you decide you are not giving it the life it deserves and it’s maybe not happy or could be happier with someone else, that is even better!! I can’t stand the girl but I’m gonna defend that. I’ve only ever given away one pet that wasn’t a foster. It was my female rabbit, I also had 2 males. She clearly needed a friend based on her behavior and wasn’t as happy as she could have been. They all had their own cages and I made a point to make sure they had free time outside of them everyday. I gave her to a girl I have know for a long time who had another female rabbit. They hit it off immediately, she was much happier and lived until 11 years old and was a mini!!! It’s a very selfless thing to do to and calling that “not vegan” is just stupid. Please stop with that crap, didn’t even make sense and makes us all look bad. It’s called the right thing to do, has nothing to do with what’s vegan and what isn’t vegan. Incase you didn’t know being vegan is not using or consuming animal products, pretty simple.
Just started going vegan this year... and im starting to become afraid of saying im vegan because of people being so mean to other vegans making a mistake...
@KP-ej7gc
6 жыл бұрын
Sean Symons That’s why I don’t call myself vegan. I say “I eat vegan”.
@tara9559
6 жыл бұрын
I feel like their should be varying degrees of being vegan. I call myself "vegetarian" b/c even though I don't eat meat, I know that I have makeup or body products that were most likely tested on animals. I try to minimize purchasing those things, but am I vegan? I don't buy leather products but I still own and use the Coach handbag my mom gave me for my birthday. I try to reduce animal suffering but am I hard-core vegan, no, not really. I feel like I have a "comfortable and gracious vegan" lifestyle. I accept gifts from family and friends, bring only my main "meat" to gatherings and eat the provided veggie sides (yeah they're cooked with butter, welcome to the south, but it's free and more gracious to accept the food prepared). I want to still be approachable to my closest friends and family. Being hardcore and spewing criticism isn't helpful. And those vegans give our community a bad name. Most of my co-workers, and friends forget b/c I don't act pushy about my beliefs. Maybe start by saying your vegetarian, it is easier for people to be less judgmental.
@zain4019
5 жыл бұрын
Tara Robinson That’s the sort of vegan/vegetarian I want to be.
I'm really looking forward to donating my old things once I can afford to. It's kind of weird that Kristina does have leather shoes, since she's been vegan for a long time, but I have noticed that raw vegans are much more likely to wear leather. I don't say this to disparage them necessarily, but raw vegans tend to be more motivated by "health" and being "natural" than by ethics. I have heard this from a couple of raw (now ethical) vegans. It's not a large sample size, but there are very few raw vegan channels discussing ethics. There are a lot of other things I disagree with Kristina about. I'm not going to attack people for transgressing veganism or anything, but I also don't have to say that buying leather is better than eating meat. Both suck from an ethical perspective, but like UV, I prefer to think it was an accident.
@xosecox12
7 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you watch UV considering your similar views on being rational and anti-pseudscience. I said on a few other comments that it's been clear from the beginning that Kristina is in it for the health, not the animals. She's obsessed with being 'pure.' She doesn't really make ethics videos and everything is always about not eating gluten/oil/salt because it's not pure enough. That has always been her standpoint so I've never looked to her expecting to see no animal products used in her lifestyle.
@VeganRevolution
7 жыл бұрын
She hashtagged the designed She's plant based - it's all about what serves her.
@daphnebravo-valenzuela6768
6 жыл бұрын
ModVegan I have some leather Givenchy slides that I bought before I was vegan and I still wear it. It was a birthday present from my mom and she spent hours trying to find those shoes while she was on another country. I think giving away is okay but throwing it away is also a disrespect with the animal that was killed for it. I don't buy leather or non-vegan products but this is the one thing that I have that's not vegan.
@treym.4940
6 жыл бұрын
I agree. I met someone who was raw vegan recently and she still wears leather, leather boots, etc, but she eats the raw diet. She's motivated for health and not even remotey any ethics.
im so glad you're frequently uploading again!
@emyemyemyyyy
7 жыл бұрын
Anya Kurkowska Me too! I've missed ya!
@Diana8Matienzo
7 жыл бұрын
Anya Kurkowska Me three!!!
@corsicanlulu
7 жыл бұрын
me 4
People in the comments saying you bought leather stuff before you went vegan, this is different because she was paid to wear these shoes and she knew they were calf leather and yet she still did it because she cares more about money, veeery different
she advertised the shoe company to over a million people though... it's different. she knows and doesn't care that's why people are pissed
@rchhcsupernova
7 жыл бұрын
greypandatic oh I see. Still rage and insults is not the way. Violence is never the best way
@Mooksz
7 жыл бұрын
Rafaella Chiarella definitely not :/
@johnchase4408
5 жыл бұрын
Then she's obviously in it for health only and not ethics.
You know what I love about you, Swayze? You stay in your lane and mind your own business. Yeah, you chime in on other peoples drama, but you never talk down to them unlike other vegans, Leanne (Freelee) and Sorsha. You're vegan, but you don't give a shit if anyone else is and instead of talking down to people who aren't, you respect their choices or maybe educate them, rather than ridiculing them. You are awesome!
A few weeks ago I went to a vegan fair wearing a fake leather jacket and some random people sitting at a table outside the building told me off.
@LLawliet-pz1rm
7 жыл бұрын
Marina Quinn In a way, that's kind of awesome that people have the guts to do that and speak up for the animals. Good thing it was fake leather. 👌
@orangesandlemonsasmr6378
7 жыл бұрын
Luna Lawliet I never thought about it that way, I think you are actually right. Yep, no real leather here, I have been vegan for 10 months and the jacket was a gift from my dad anyway.
@lorimurguia880
7 жыл бұрын
I think you all sound so ridiculous. I'm thankful, I'm not a Vegan and never will be. Most of you are a bunch of hateful and self-righteous nitpickers. I'm a fan of Kristina, she's a better person, than all of you haters. You should look at yourselves and how ugly you are, before you leave hateful comments on Kristina's pages. Those comments were ugly people. You guys who wrote those hateful things on her wall treat animals better than you treat humans. You're the ones who aren't truly Vegan, otherwise why would you say such cruel and hateful things to another human? Kristina is better than all of you people, who are probably just jealous anyway.
@MelsRamblings
7 жыл бұрын
i think that's actually really toxic to yell at someone you don't know at a vegan fair for wearing 'leather'. What if it was a omnivore who was interested in veganism but then got turned off because they were attacked by some random? We need to be less judgemental and more open.
@LLawliet-pz1rm
7 жыл бұрын
Melanie Corzo I agree. To clarify, I don't mean their method of going about it was good; they could've confronted her more peacefully, but different strokes for different folks, I suppose. ._.
Reading the comments on Kristina's apology is so appalling. Someone even suggested that Kristina should have a pair of shoes made out of her own skin as some sort of "penance". The visceral reaction and automatic disgusting response exhibited by a lot these vegans is one example as to why people think vegans are lunatics, someone can't even make an honest mistake without being burned at the stake for it.
I get your overarching point (you catch more flies with honey, etc.), but in Kristina's case she totally deserves it. She's overwhelmingly snarky and dismissive toward people who disagree with her or don't subscribe to her beliefs. She needed to be knocked down a peg.
I think she's a total hypocrite, but at the end of the day, what are you going to do honestly?
@eringovoni4416
6 жыл бұрын
Kæla Brown hopefully at the end of the day people realize if they spent as much effort as they do criticizing others and focused that energy on themselves the world would be a much happier place
This is the comment I left on freelees video 👍 She says she was "gifted" them. And tagged the designer. I've been around the Instagram block a while and especially with starting my own vegan tshirt line. Instagrammers typically don't tag a random designer. I personally never heard of this designer before so I'm going to assume Kristina was doing a discrete sponsored post since she says she was "gifted" it. And on the other hand to giver her some benefit of the doubt... I think this brings up a good awareness for all vegans including myself to try to improve and step up our own game for 2017.
I so dissagree with you. she is vegan for 12 years already. she is not new to veganism, and she posted 4 photos, one after the other of her wearing leather shoes, and added links to buy them! she is famous and she just encouraged almost 1 million people to buy shoes that are made of baby calfs. if that isn't serious enough for you as a vegan I'm really, really disappointed than you.
Exactly! While I don't agree with her wearing leather shoes I don't gain anything from bashing her! If I don't have anything nice to say I just don't comment on social media... that simple lol
You know I'm pretty sure going out of your way to bully and harass someone makes you a worse person than wearing leather shoes does.
If it was another person I wouldn't care as much, but since she is the "vegan guru" it's a bit hypocritical. I have boots I got before I went vegan I still wear because it doesn't make sense to throw them out, but at the same time in not shoving veganism at people...
@piiinkDeluxe
6 жыл бұрын
She has been apart of he vegan committee for years. she's no novice. she TAGGED the designer. she knew. its obviouslyI. why are u assuming that people are assuming? jesus, this is just another video made to get views. unsubbing from u, too. its not fkn hard to stay away from fashionable views. its not an 'accident'. its vanity!
@natsil611
7 жыл бұрын
vegan community*
@natsil611
7 жыл бұрын
fashionable shoes*
@clan_fraser19
7 жыл бұрын
Nat Cile Agree 100%.
@sozuruQ2
7 жыл бұрын
Nat Cile no. it is hard. I eat mostly vegan and I will never give up my Chanel. Stella McCartney shit is so ugly. Sue me.
@natsil611
7 жыл бұрын
+Rainy Neon 😊
I think it's sad that you don't care. People are not going to calmly educate Kristina about her leather shoe choice. People are (understandably) getting upset and angry because Kristina's actions go against everything she supposedly stands for. She promotes herself as a fully raw vegan who cares deeply about animals. She has a huge following and has a big influence on many people. To wear not just one, but multiple pairs of leather shoes, and then post photos of herself wearing them on Instagram (whilst tagging the designers) is inexcusable. To say it was just a 'mistake' is bullshit. She knew exactly what she was wearing and clearly didn't give a damn. Her actions have exposed her true colours and dishonest character.
@loulourose7683
7 жыл бұрын
Rainy Neon YES.
@GoopyCarbonaraaa
7 жыл бұрын
Rainy Neon I agree completely. I'm kind of disappointed in unnatural vegan for this vid. As ethical vegans we should still stand for something. There's no need for people to be nasty to Kristina, but if people don't want to support her after finding out she is a hypocrite & is being insincere with her message that shouldn't be viewed as "overreacting".
@sozuruQ2
7 жыл бұрын
Rainy Neon shut the fuck up the problem in the world is 98% factory farms and eating animals NOT wearing them focus on the bigger part and stop fucking nit picking this is fucking why nobody wants to go vegan bc of elitist perfectionists like you
@GoopyCarbonaraaa
7 жыл бұрын
Crisscross If someone wants to eat vegan & still wear leather I don't care tbh. But Kristina is constantly preaching about love & kindness and saying she cares about animals. it's hypocritical & insincere to say you're an ethical vegan then support animal slaughter. Plus the leather industry is toxic. There are communities in India being poisoned & losing limbs from working & living around leather factories. Buying leather shoes goes against everything she pretends to be. this isn't about wanting her to be perfect, it's about wanting her to be honest.
@velourbutterfly
7 жыл бұрын
Rainy Neon amen to this!!! thanks for speaking the truth.
Veganism Is about love. Love for animals, love for The planet Earth and included in that love for other human beings. It is a positive and loveful movement. It should be spread with love and frienship vibes. What kind of image we are portraying to no Vegans if we are so hateful againts each other? No wonder no Vegans think we are narcisist, snobs and negative about everything. We should be supporting each other instead of judging and putting down each other. If people see the positivity of the movement they are more likely to become vegans.
I'm an ethical vegan. I avoid leather, fur, down, wool (though it might sometimes creep in tiny amounts now and then unintentionally and I use it if and when it does.) But my understanding is that a strict avoidance of leather wasn't part of the original definition of "vegan", coined by Donald Watson. Avoiding all animal products beyond meat, milk and eggs was encouraged by him, but it wasn't part of the original definition. Definitions of vegan have changed from time to time, but the original was less strict. I follow the more modern definition more or less, but I don't attack vegans who follow the Watson definition, and have no basis for doing so.
🙄 it's really ridiculous that vegans are so willing to try and catch out other vegans and persecute them because of a few little mistakes. Do people think this helps the vegan movement? Someone who's looking to become a vegan sees Freelee making a video calling out another vegan for unknowingly wearing leather shoes which were a gift... If makes us look bat shit crazy! My car has leather interior because my husband bought it for me (he's not vegan) and I didn't realise until months later when I couldn't return it! I have some leather furniture in my house that I didn't look into properly when I bought it. But that's not my concern, my concern is making sure I don't eat meat or any animal products. I'll try to look in future for leather in products to avoid but I'm doing what I can in the real world!
@MargotDemi
7 жыл бұрын
"A philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude-as far as is possible and practicable-all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of humans, animals and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."
@MargotDemi
7 жыл бұрын
She knows, she wears it even tags the designer, has a new car with leather, blocked the comments so people would stop calling her out on her lies but still keeps the photo up with the designer tagged so she can get a sponsership. She is possibly the fakest vegan i have come across.. "I won't eat them because i want to be so perfect & look perfect, but i will wear them!" don't even forget the elephants she rode
@crosswind76
7 жыл бұрын
I know--maybe Freelee needs a reality check, because many have admitted she has implants--so if she promotes health, that is a fraud and lying. She needs to look in mirror. Plus she was called out fir eating packaged cooked foods but saying she was Raw. I'm tired of all this food CULT. Should be about healthy Mind& body & stop judging. Nobody is perfect. If your diet works you, it shows in your mental health too, mood, patience, no OCD or controlling others or anger.
@crosswind76
7 жыл бұрын
sadly, many Vegans are deficient in B12, protein OR eating too high copper! some people genetically cannot metabolize or handle COPPER and are VERY low in ZINC too, which can cause anger, tension , irritability, ADHD, probly OCD too, which many activists use in an UNHEALTHY & rude way. Read more about #Pyroluria and Dr William Walsh, Dr Mensa at Walsh Institute with 30+ yrs research.
The title of this video compared to freelee's take on the situation was hilarious
No comparison between eating animals and wearing them? Common....
I’m a lacto vegetarian Hindu and for me, the leather issue is really difficult. I try and have tried SO hard to never buy leather products. Shoes are really the Achilles heel for those who otherwise find themselves abstaining from leather products. Vegan shoes are 1. Not easy to find 2. Often weirdly more expensive 3. Not as durable 4. And sorry, yeah I’m gonna say it, call me vain, generally ass-ugly. I have one pair of leather shoes. It took a lot of inner strife, contemplation and consideration before buying them. But I bought them. And I wear them. Honestly, I feel very torn. I don’t claim to have the answers for myself. I cared for a small herd of dairy cattle in the monastery I used to live in. I forged extremely strong and very meaningful bonds with those cows. I love them, and I love them in a major way. I fed them. Sang to them. Talked to them. Napped with them. Played with them. Went on walks with them. Milked them. Nursed them. Worshipped them. The idea of wearing or using leather used to be unthinkable to me. I still feel shame and guilt over owning and wearing the aforementioned leather shoes. I probably won’t buy another pair again. But I certainly don’t judge anyone for wearing them. I’m a vegetarian because it is one of many ways in which we can incorporate living ahimsa, the Hindu term for non-injury. Of course we all do things, unknowingly or otherwise, cause injury to other beings. When we act consciously to reduce or avoid such injury, we are making progress and we are making the world better for all beings. Ahimsa also means not slamming those who eat meat. You can’t be a vegetarian/vegan for reasons of non-injury and then injure another person with your words because they’re not practicing ahimsa as you see fit. Contradictory!
@phuck8627
5 жыл бұрын
lol, complete bullshit
I was BOMBARDED for saying I accidentally bought a used cashmere sweater and some awful person tried to take away the fact that I'm vegan. I worked hard for this I don't consider myself part of the community but that was really upsetting for me.
Vegans who hurt the movement: Self-righteous ones who criticize other vegans AND the anti-Vegans like Cheetah and Nikocado. Both are just as problematic.
@stephanyol
6 жыл бұрын
Your joy will turn to abandon
@dongiovanni7991
6 жыл бұрын
I like nick the avacado dude, he's the result of what happens when vegans bully their own. Neat to see his personal transformation, I feel bad for him right now with what he is goes through. This world, not only vegans would benefit from some kindness.
Congrats on 100,000 subs, so happy that there's a consistently reasonable and level headed vegan voice here on KZread.
Even better, using non-vegan products such as shoes can be really good for the environment. What if they were second hand and/or from a friend or family member that already had them? Or from being before vegan? Isn't it WORSE to waste a vegan product that already exists and an animal died for rather than wasting it? So going back to the shoes. Say for the sake of argument that she had leather shoes from pre-vegan days, wouldn't it be better to wear those as long as possible rather than throw them out and purchase vegan shoes? Even vegan shoes have a minor impact on the environment. It's wasteful, if the animal had already died for shoes, don't waste it even more. Going out and knowingly purchasing non-vegan shoes, I could see the argument there but we don't know that's the case here.
I use nonvegan products until they wore out. Some things wore out easier than others. But I would not intentionally buy leather if I don't need to. I mean, why?
I love this response to the shoes sooooo much better than all the hate ones (especially the one made by a certain someone who's name rhymes with seelee)
@xosecox12
7 жыл бұрын
I haven't even dared to watch that video lol. She already hates Kristina so I knew she'd have a field day with calling her fake.
@corneliahanimann2173
7 жыл бұрын
xosecox12 yup. That's how we recognize great content...when you manage to call yourself an activist by making a video where you complain about someones shoes... Vegans aren't crazy...freelee is inspirational...those haters totally have no reason to make fun of the vegan community, we're trying to change the world here...🙄🙄🙄
@corneliahanimann2173
7 жыл бұрын
Christina Stuve shhhh...we call it "education"... Like...imagine what important knowledge you would've missed it you didn't watch the entire 5 minutes of that video...
@MargotDemi
7 жыл бұрын
Freelee was very nice in her video & very informing, you obviously didn't even watch it
@corneliahanimann2173
7 жыл бұрын
Vegan Moll I can say she became a lot nicer in her past videos, and the video she made was in comparison to most of her videos that had this style-rather nice...but ya, tell me again, what education do you get with her "I'm also shocked, that I'm not more shocked that she's wearing leather"? ya no she can't make a video without shading someone else and drag them into the mud to make herself look like a greater person and that attitude just stinks. is probably only adored by people that like to do the exact same thing and use veganism just in order to brag about their superiority over others.
I wear leather steel toe work boots. I work around molten metal and honestly they're the best protection for the environment I work in. Not only that but it's required for my job and I honestly don't beat myself up over it and if I found a maricle boot that was as good or better and met the requirements I need I would totally switch.
@gordenwood7853
7 жыл бұрын
Jimmydog Keep safe that is the number 1 buddy.
I just left a comment on your other video about vegans being cruel to each other. A vegan tonight told me I'm not a real vegan because I care about humans AND animals. Apparently "intersectional vegans" are evil. She called me a moron because I went to college and graduate school (I got a corrupted education apparently) and was insistent that I'm an idiot and not a real vegan because I offered that her tactic of bullying people into veganism was ineffective. She called herself a misanthrope and said humans don't matter and that it's okay to bully because it's my fault if words hurt me. Then she and someone else said it's pathetic if people turn against veganism because of the "words people say." Then another guy attacked you for having a baby and called me a cunt for defending it. I know these are just KZread comments from sick people but I honestly have been crying because I have severe anxiety, PTSD, and agoraphobia after a severely abusive relationship I was in. I used to like leaving KZread comments because I was able to interact with people and have something to do while going through my agoraphobia but now I think KZread has made my anxiety worse because people think that being behind a computer makes it okay to say whatever they want to people they'll probably never meet. And people think it's okay to abuse someone and then say "you're responsible for your feelings, my words are just words." We all have a responsibility to be kind to each other. That's what humanity is about. I'm so sick of the people who think it's cool to hate people and be mean. People have committed suicide because of cyber bullying. I'm a vegan and always will be but I feel lonely in my veganism because the only people who are nice to me are non-vegans.
I'm still so bothered by the person in a different video who replied to my comment saying I'm not a real vegan because I'm nice to humans. It shouldn't be getting to me, but I care about veganism so much that it really hurt me to me told I have to choose between human relationships and animals in order to be a "real" vegan. She said ethical vegans don't care about humans. She kept referring to intersectional vegans as well as in vegans who care about "both" and said intersectional vegans are disgusting. I just don't get how that mindset comes about. I want to stay vegan but I felt like she was bullying me out of a lifestyle I love when you would think she would be wanting invite people in if she cares about animals so much. I'm staying vegan for myself but I don't want to call myself a vegan publicly because the word makes me feel sick when I've only ever had non-vegans be nice to me and vegans always tell me I'm too compassionate towards humans to be vegan. It's lonely in this lifestyle when every vegan you meet alienates you and only non-vegans accept you.
Not going to hate on Kristina at all. It's just really disappointing and sad because the leather industry is so shitty and there are better alternatives. If it was a mistake then I hope she can learn.
Wow, you're one of the chilliest youtubers I'm subscribed to. I would have never guessed that you had road rage
I don't really care about Kristina but I'd like to note something: On professional photoshoots the model doesn't always get to decide on shoes or make up. Kristina has most likely also used non-vegan not cruelty-free and definitely not "raw" make up! That's something she never addressed.
I am vegan, not raw, but I think it's unfair to say that raw veganism is extremely limiting and extremely unhealthy. It is not limiting, neither is veganism itself, there are tons of fruit, vegetables and seeds and a variety of dishes they can eat. And raw veganism has been shown to cure diabetes. So it might not be the healthiest option for everyone but it is certainly not "extremely unhealthy".
I agree for the most part but she's not a transitioning vegan, or a new vegan. Shes been fully raw for what 7 years? She really should know better. I'm not saying she's an evil person or anything, but I'm disappointed.
You have a lot to say for someone who "doesn't care"
@moondog7694
7 жыл бұрын
Lauren Touhey Maybe she just cares about views.
My feet are so screwed up from years of doing and teaching gymnastics & dance. I tried buying vegan shoes. I bought several pairs. None worked. My feet were always in terrible pain from them and you know how miserable you get when you're hurting. I finally gave in and started buying whatever shoes feel right on my feet. Sometimes that means I buy shoes made partially out of leather. I don't buy more than what I need - I don't have a huge shoe collection, and I absolutely do NOT buy leather shoes for dressing up. The leather I buy is for WORK and not for trying to be stylish. If another vegan wants to judge me for that, I really don't care.
So... doing something bad is better than doing something worse. Got it.
Changing my perspective to assume the best in people has made me a lot happier
Always assume positive intent and one will live life a bit happier. I enjoy your videos. ☺
today i feel like a total arsehole because i found out that the shoes i ordered few weeks ago are not vegan. i cant return the shoes and quite frankly i dont know what to do. i feel so bad. i dont know how to repay it and redeem myself in any way.
I am more bothered by the amount of shoes she owns in general. It just seems fairly wasteful to own that many pairs of shoes.
I like to watch kristina's videos but I'm not raw, it's just that this type of diet is so far from my real world that I watch it as a funfic of elitist vegans, hahaha. I think is super irresponsible though when she says those kind of things about sun screen or vaccines, and now, not only irresponsible but totally hypocrite because she went to bali, was bitten by a dog, took shots and vlogged about it, I mean, wtf?
@daniblalock5800
7 жыл бұрын
Bárbara Gondar yeah lol, it's like how Steve Jobs refused to go through cancer treatment and instead tried the pseudoscience BS fruit method and once his cancer spread and was on the brink of death THEN he decides to listen to doctors and go through chemo/radiation and put on multiple transplant lists. They spread their crap but when actually faced with the reality of something like rabies, only at that point they believe the real science. It's actually so infuriating to me.
@bgondar
7 жыл бұрын
it is infuriating, yes! I don't quite know why I keep up watching, actually! lol I guess it's really a great funfic.
I can't imagine seeing you getting road rage, you're too nice! 😂❤️ This video was so sobering and thought-provoking! Totally agree with all your points.
I honestly feel bad for Kristina. She's done so much harm to her body while thinking it's all healthy.
Kristina has never really came across to me as ethical, I don’t watch her videos anymore. Maybe that has changed but her focus has always been on health and why her lifestyle is the best. Not sure why everyone is surprised
two uploads in one day? HELL YEAH
Two videos in one day?! My birthday was last week, but I'll take it!
From what I understand, the shoes were a gift. She talked about how sometimes when she gets gifts that are non-vegan she'll just keep the gifts and just educate people on what vegan alternatives they can buy. She probably knew they were non-vegan but figured it was fine to wear them since she didn't directly contribute to the demand by buying them herself.
@natyanayaki
7 жыл бұрын
Lauren Campbell She advertised them to millions if people -- that by definition is promotion.
These "your a fake vegan" vegans make me want to stop being vegan
@VeganRevolution
7 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something a fake Vegan would say.
Honestly, Kristina uses way less animal products than the average person. Her buying one pair of leather shoes (even intentionally) isn't that bad, not everyone's perfect.
@VeganRevolution
7 жыл бұрын
The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Haha.....great thumbnail.
I am not vegan. I eat a vegan diet. I personally will never say I am a vegan. Yes, my make up is cruelty free, my clothes and shows and wallet are also. But even the things we wear that don't come from animals, come from industrial farming or the tearing down of animal homes in forests and other places. So I will never say I'm vegan. The wood my houses foundation was built from is wood that was cut down and took away a home from animals and the machinery that did it, crushed the animals and beings on the ground... So no I'm not vegan, I am just a human doing whatever I can to lessen my impact on animals, the environment and other things, as much as I can where I'm at in life right now.
I use leather quite a lot. But then again, I buy my clothes mostly used. And sometimes, when people point at my shoes and ask weren't I vegan, I'd like to rant and ask if they always check labels for animal products, if they spent considerable amount of time online searching which brands of cosmetics and household products are cruelty-free, if they buy most of their clothes used - or when new, check if it's cruelty-free -, if they go through dozens of conversations trying to justify their ethical and dietary choices, etc. But I don't rant, because I'm nice and cool. I do like to think I've earned my pretty, badass and used leather boots, thank you very much.
I just don't know how people know it's actually leather … I can't find the post but a lot of vegan leather looks and feels super real. Is it just because of the brand or what?
I have some shoes and clothes from leather, wool and silk and I still wear them. I won't buy items from such materials now but I don't see how throwing away my old stuff would help anybody. And I will continue to consider myself vegan not plant-based or whatever.
What i have found is that veganism is more like a religion to most vegans than it is a dietary choice.
I see this leather drama over and over again - well, Imo it's better to buy a pair of shoes NOW and wear them longer, instead of buying shoes every few months, while ruining your feet. Vegans should know producing plastics is damaging the environment, and we have to buy consciously for our garments to last more, so that we don't overconsume.
I have been vegan for a little over a year now and I still wear my leather boots and down feather coat that I have had for years. I plan to wear them both until they wear out because honestly I need them to keep me warm this winter. when they are worn and old, I will obviously replace them with vegan versions. I worried, (especially when I go to vegan events) that I would be judged. Then I remember that I do it for the animals. not to win the approval of other people. So I say fuck it. :)
While I think it's fair for people to call her out because she tagged the designer to promote the shoes, there's a difference between calling out hypocrisy and name calling/attacking someone. I still wear old leather shoes, and will sometimes buy 2nd hand leather shoes because part of my ethics also involves reducing waste. Any new shoes I buy are vegan, and made from recycled materials(like Matt & Nat) under fair working conditions. I don't think something from H&M, Zara, Topshop etc is vegan just because it's free of animal products(the glue used probably isn't even if it's leather-free) because slave labour also causes harm to humans, and animals(i.e. landfills, dyes in water, etc.).
I mean plain and simply not all vegans are vegan because of animal rights.
I'm a hairdresser, before I went vegan, i bought a new pair a scissors, they came with a leather case, I've thought about getting rid of them, but what would that solve? The animal already died, I didn't pay for it, and i will always enquire about not getting leather with scissors, but throwing away leather that I already have or accidentally acquired, doesn't solve shit
I tried being a vegan for 8 months about 2.5 years ago. I was constantly met with criticism from my family and friends but I maintained the vegan lifestyle pretty well. I was still in the process of learning and was having a conversation with someone in the comment section when it was pointed out that I had accidentally consumed a non-vegan product. I was instantly called names and labels were thrown around. For what? For accidentally consuming a non-vegan product? Most of these vegan youtubers create a false illusion of reality. I have a very intense career, I can’t possibly consume 10 bananas in the morning and carry 20 oranges in my bag for lunch. I have a well paying job but even then, that’s unthinkably expensive to afford on a weekly basis. I have, never till date, met a vegan that gave me valid advice. They’re mostly condescending judgemental freaks that want to ‘feel’ superior. Whenever I’ve asked a question, I’ve been met with “don’t do this” “don’t do that” instead of “do this”. Ugh.
There is such a difference between the vegans I've met irl and the vegans I've interacted with online. My vegan friends and the people I meet at festivals and such are the kindest, most compassionate people I've met. I've worn leather shoes to vegan festivals (because I bought them before I went vegan and I hate being unnecessarily wasteful) and had no comments at all. The vegans I interact with face to face are respectful and understanding, and there such a generalised lack of that in the vegan community online and that makes me so sad. We all believe in the same thing and it's so easy to be respectful and tolerant of other people's choices, and I don't understand why this works so well until screens and keyboards are introduced
this is totally unrelated to the video but i just wanted to say first I admire you SO MUCH for breaking the stereotype of veganism. you are such an inspiration to me and I'm so glad I found your channel. I was wondering if you would consider making a video on the topic of buying new clothes (like from target, Kohl's, etc.) because a lot of vegans, Freelee in particular, seem to be quite against buying anything new and think everything should be second hand. (not saying I disagree, just curious on your view). also, if you'd consider making a video on the topic of the environment and veganism. I seem to get flustered when talking to people about the environmental damage of animal products and even tho I've seen cowspirscy, I feel like it's not enough? idk. just wondering :) thanks
I'm on a high fat low carb diet and I've been really happy with the results and the lifestyle. My comment though is not meat to promote any diet over another, but to point out the differences in the community. I was never a vegan, but I was a vegetarian for a long time and the amount of criticism I got was unreal, to the point where i would hide the fact that I was eating chips or other unhealthy things. With the LCHF diet that's not the case. If you fall off the wagon, people just encourage you to get back on it. There's no judgement and there's no criticism, and that is the best part. If i decided to go vegetarian again, or try a vegan diet, I wouldn't even tell anyone just to avoid the criticism when/if I messed up.
I was quite disgusted how vindictive some Vegans can be, I feel like I don't want to call myself vegan anymore even though I always will be. But i do have old leather boots and sneakers made of leather, what's the point in throwing them away, the damage is already done, and veganism isn't about the things you bought in the past. no vegan site states that! Thanks for this video, it restored some of my sanity.
Also guys she could of bought shoes that are copies this are not made out of leather, so why judge no one's perfect and no one can be 100% vegan, it's OK to make mistakes it's a part of trying
I have leather belts from before I went vegan, and a dream catcher made of feathers. I still consider myself vegan and soooo don't have any problems wearing those belts. The damage has been made and there is nothing to do about it. Might as well just use it until it get's worn out. I also ate up all the animal foods in my house. Waste is just so stupid >_>
I have a vegan friend who found a pair of leather boots that she loved to death (no pun intended) at a second hand store. Kind of gross, but I seriously don't see the problem as long as you aren't buying them new because that isn't supporting the company or production of the product, just making sure they don't go to waste after the fact. People really do need to get over it and be kinder. Great video!
I bought second hand shoes made out of leather and I don't think it's a problem tbh because I'm still not supporting the industry
I think people have a problem wit the fact she tagged the designer. Any one of her followers could easily go and buy the shoes, whether they know the shoes are leather or not, leading to a small increase in demand. I think the shoes are ugly so I'd hope not too many people would actually want them but I think that's something you didn't bring up.
Interesting video c: My only problem with kristina is how off with the fairies she is.. She's so ridiculously happy all the time and it's so obvious it's fake, I can't watch her without cringing xd Love your videos
I don't call myself vegan anymore as well. I hate the hypocrisy in the movement so I just do me and not care what others think.
What on earth must we look like to meat eaters who are thinking about going vegetarian/vegan? Who would want to be part of this club if they're just going to be attacked for every single thing that they do? All these people spending their time bashing her could spend their time actually contacting the company. We as consumers can change things if we request vegan apparel. Now just imagine what 2000 emails can do if it went straight to the company that was making this and not to a girl who is clearly passionate about being vegan. People just bash Kristina because they don't like how she comes across on camera. I get it. Just stop bashing our own. We need to stick together.
are these people sure that they are real leather? i brought a purse recently from urban originals it looks like legit real leather but its not its peta approved vegan... could be the same issue with the shoes.
I have a pair of leather boots that I will still occasionally wear. My mother bought them for me 5 years ago before I went vegan, they are really good winter boots, and I can't really afford to buy vegan boots of an equal quality (they are very solid, long-lasting, and warm with great tread and I live in Pennsylvania), because I am currently in grad school. The purchases I have made since becoming a vegan have *all* been vegan (to my knowledge), but I don't see the harm in using an item that I already owned when I don't have a solid replacement. I so appreciate your videos. Thank you for being such a rational voice in the vegan discussion!
People also may keep leather items they purchased/received before going vegan.