FULL REVIEW - Logitech G PRO Load Cell Sim Racing Pedals (PC/Xbox/PlayStation)
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0:00 - Intro
0:40 - Important Information
1:25 - Pricing
2:00 - Compatibility
3:31 - Why choose a Load Cell Brake?
5:22 - Hardware Overview
13:33 - Adjustments
24:34 - Disassembly and Base Plate Internals
27:32 - Software and Calibration Best Practices
31:53 - Driving Tests
42:58 - Conclusions
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Well now Logitech needs to make a medium to high end shifter like fanatec and moza did
Really appreciate all the honest info and extra details. Your videos are always extremely helpful and informative. As a relative newbie to rig racing your videos have helped make the transition soo much easier and less daunting. Appreciate all the hard work! Keep it up!
Mate got to say you do great videos. Well done! Love the level of detail you go into.
Love your reviews! Always so in-depth. Have you ever thought about driving tutorials? In the section we’re you were testing the brakes helped me understand trail braking better. The 3 different views help my brain grasp the concept better.
So, out of nowhere Logitech throws us sim racers a surprise, no teasers, no news, they went for it and it was 💥 🤯. Your turn TMs, what you have for us?
@Mo96afaZ
Жыл бұрын
And yet not many ppl are aware of it, you can’t buy it online except through their website
@themadnes5413
3 ай бұрын
@@Mo96afaZ And then came the t818, what a shame.
Man, you were born for this! Congrats, and thank you!
Great review and very helpful, I currently have the G29 which I use mainly on PC and this looks like the start of a great upgrade path for me before then getting the wheel base too
Excited to see how the Venym pedals match up against the competitor pedals you’ve been reviewing. Great content!
@jayjs8429
Жыл бұрын
Where did Will review the Venyms? Cant find it.
@boostedmedia
Жыл бұрын
Haven't yet. They're in the queue.
Cut the remaining elastomer spacer to size and replace the weak polymer one and that should stiffen the initial take up. You can also add washers in the stack as a preload adjustment. This will make it more difficult to reposition the stack into the base though.
Thanks for doing this video. I went ahead and picked up a wheel and pedal set, this looks like the best solution for me. The Trueforce is up my alley, I like have engine vibration in my FFB.
Amazing channel...great work mate! thank you for the sharing and tips you give in your videos!!
For those wondering if this is worth it vs Fanatec or Moza, this pedal set becomes worth it if there is no physical store that sells a shop warranty Fanatec or Moza pedal set but Logitech Wheel is readily available. Availability will be a huge plus depending on where you live.
@jj72rg
Жыл бұрын
They said they ain't gonna sell it in their usual brick and mortar location though
@fast_mattw8059
Жыл бұрын
Probelm is, they arent selling this product on the shelves. This is website only.
@sigmablock
Жыл бұрын
That may only apply where Logitech can sell online in the specific territory. Don't assume every country can order direct from their website and ship to a buyer's local address that isn't NA or EU/UK.
@SecretSauceyjuice
Жыл бұрын
@@fast_mattw8059 still easier to get warranty service from Logitech vs Fanatec.
@lockenessmotorsports818
Жыл бұрын
@@SecretSauceyjuice fanatec support is as much use as a chocolate teapot ive got some v3s that are basically a coffee table cant get replacement loadcell
You are so good at reviewing mate, absolute LEGEND 🤝🏻
If they last as long as Logitechs G29s etc... They'd be a safe bet. The heel plate being plastic for myself is a non issue as you will scratch most if not all heel plates if your grinding a stone into it with your heel, that and the old G29 pedal sets are plastic and I can't ever remember it coming up as an issue before. If does bother some folks just cover it with something. Good Review. Stiffening up the brake pedal was a great point and easy to do if you replace the soft foam with a firmer one.
Wow, wake up to a notice from Logitech and already seeing reviews. Can't wait for the wheel base review.
I’m three months in with my logitech pro wheel and I have zero faults. None whatsoever this wheel is superb a definite yes hundred percent great Wheel
Bro I love your reviews!
Just priced out these pedals, Fantec v2 + shipping over $500 CAD, Logitech pedals in combo with base now $337.49 including shipping. 🙂
Awesome video man. I'm considering upgrading to this from my Logitech G29.
Thank you so much, that was extremely detailed and useful information
Thanks great presentation very informative and really helps to get a new owner getting up to speed.
To me this seems like the next logical step up from my g923. I picked it up last October and have enjoyed it very much, I would have gone with a t300rs but availability at the time was bad and not to mention they came with terrible pedals right off the bat compared to the 923. Pretty cool they are working on a adapter for the pedals as well and once my warranty expires I'll jump onto the wheel as well
@Pluto-ud5ss
Жыл бұрын
the price isn't logical at all for a full set up
@dylansandoval9841
Жыл бұрын
@@Pluto-ud5ss I agree, it is a bit too steep especially for the material build but I would say Logitech can maybe produce them at a higher rate than fanatec and Moza can. This I think will also go down in price later down the line when I might be ready. It also adds competition for the Direct Drive market which is great. Only time will tell. I am quite happy with my G923 at the moment
I love the way you pull gear apart I would do the same thing, help understand the quality
i like drifting i haven't really tried racing yet might have to give it a shot great content!!
I managed to snag the only unit of these in my country. Very excited to finally have a load cell pedal set.
@Maartwo
Жыл бұрын
Update: the quality is really good. I'm still adjusting to it. The stock accelerator pedal spring is about as strong as the G29's brake pedal. Switched to the lightest spring and it feels great.
Great detailed review, thank you! As for that break pedal pretravel, can’t you just replace that PU bit with softest elastomer, or sqeeze two PU bits in there?
I’d love those pedal faces for my Fanatec CSLs!
I wish I found your channel earlier. great review. thx alot
With the plastic plate with the g920, I've never had any significant scratches so I feel the same with the Logitech pro pedals.
Thanks for the in-depth review, Nice One !! Do you think they will make these compatible with their non direct drive wheels like the G920 etc. ???
I went with moza r12 and the rs wheel with the logitech pedals im really happy with it, thrustmaster shifter
Good review Will thorough like always for some reason I enjoyed this one more than others,im not interested in buying these at all but obviously watched it anyway
Thanks for the video
Absolutely love these reviews. I’m only a console gamer at the moment, but when I’m ready to take that next step to PC gaming, I’ll definitely be looking at the G Pro ecosystem. Looks good. Hopefully they bring out a range of wheels for all racing types.
@TheJoshavil
Жыл бұрын
It works on console so you can jump in right now :D
@EarthIsFlat456
10 ай бұрын
As of now there's still no real ecosystem because there's not a single accessory available or even announced. You're still only getting the wheel + the pedals.
So happy and appreciative to Logitech and Thrustmaster as well for coming out with these comparative products. It seemed like the last year or so the prices of the higher end products just went through the roof so to speak. Hopefully prices will even out so that the poorer masses (80% of us) can also enjoy the joys of sim racing.
@sternfaust
Жыл бұрын
What has Thrusmaster to compare to this?
@A-man-yf6pr
Жыл бұрын
@@sternfaust Thrustmaster has a direct drive wheel coming out as well. I’ve never used Thrustmaster products myself but it seems a lot of people like them. We just need the prices to come down and the more competition there is out there the lower the prices usually.
@antreastoumazou2736
Жыл бұрын
@@A-man-yf6pr leave a reply when it comes out, by that time I'll have already gone in retirement and have more free time. /s
@drazenbudis7881
Жыл бұрын
@@antreastoumazou2736 u retired yet?
@antreastoumazou2736
Жыл бұрын
@Drazen Budis fact check after 2 month, gotta love it. Unfortunately no, still have about 30-40 more years ahead
Be great to see a pleb like me get sent a wheel and pedals to compare it to a 923 that l have. Never used anything but logitech gear for my racing and have always loved the durability and ease of use. Really happy logitech have bought out another quality wheel. Looking forward to trying it.
I LOVE how I can buy and use just the pedals without upgrading my G27 wheel (on PC). Would like to get the wheel but would rather upgrade the pedals for better foot feel.
@Bigaza454
Жыл бұрын
You could always use any pedal set with a logitech wheel on PC, providing the pedal set is USB
@caliginousmoira8565
Жыл бұрын
ah yes the god tier logitech... i never got a g27 wish i did though
Great review
i wish logitech would release more wheel rims, selection is a little scarce considering the wheel base does support QR
hey man what a great channel, i think the best concerning sim racing set ups. I was wondering which support for wheel/pedals do u use? I saw it was "next level.. something" it seems very solid
@pixelgaming0074
3 ай бұрын
Idk if you eventually found out or not but his is a next Level Racing cockpit. I believe the F-GT Elite. Which is second now to the more sturdy F-GT elite 160
The plastic pedal base at this price point is really tacky, but I like that they at least designed these in a way where all the important components can just be removed from the base and mounted to an aftermarket inverted pedalbase or race rig and then it becomes a non-issue but this still seems hard to justify at this price compared to the entry level Moza pedals
@danielsoto_toronto
Жыл бұрын
I thought the base moza pedals didn’t have a load cell
@theRooster722
Жыл бұрын
@@danielsoto_toronto Moza SRP Pedals have a load cell brake. All metal construction, $180 for two pedal set, $220 including clutch. They work beautifully
@theRooster722
Жыл бұрын
@@danielsoto_toronto The pedals Moza gives you in the R5 bundle are not load cell.
@danielsoto_toronto
Жыл бұрын
@@theRooster722 I see, thanks!
@flyingphoenix113
Жыл бұрын
@@danielsoto_toronto, the very cheapest do not (just as with Fanatec), but the SR-P load cell pedals do, and they are over $100 less with an all-steel build (no plastic at all).
Instead of a vinyl wrap, I'd just grab some automotive carpeting, cut it to shape, and glue it to the pedal base where my feet rest. Personally this works for me since I'm more used to street cars and often drive street cars in sims, so would get some immersion points there haha
@boostedmedia
Жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@jasper_of_puppets
Жыл бұрын
Rubber all-weather floor mats FTW!
Would placing metal shims in the chamber with the polymer cylinders, create a pre-load when you screw it back together?
Can I use this pedal with other wheel on a PC? I assume the pedal can be connected to the PC separately?
The only reason I'll go for Logitech when upgrading to Direct Drive is the True Force feature, it actually adds something to the experience. Wish they had a wheel base with 20Nm however.
@scottd7222
10 ай бұрын
20nm sounds absurd lol 😂 why haha do you do this for fitness?
Do you know if they are also gonna bring a new manual shifter? The old one is just too flimsy to use with a wheel and pedalset of this price.
The clutch and heel toe downshifting really needs to be showcased in these reviews. That is huge and nobody seems to show it. Some pedals work well for it and others not. just playing with the throttle and brake....you can buy the cheapest pedals and do fine.
so lets say i just wanted the pedals, i can unhook the g29 pedal from the g29 wheel and plug in the wheel and pro pedals to my pc and use both ?
Just received from the Gamesmen an email offering these pedals for sale
Really really missed a direct comparison to the CSL Elite V2, specially considering the issue with the initial brake uptake. Ease of use was clear enough for those looking to swap the elastometers in and out, but I'd appreciate a head on comparison between the two
@jasper_of_puppets
Жыл бұрын
For sure they already got that comparison video planned.
@boostedmedia
Жыл бұрын
This comparison was made in the video. Logitech is more versatile with more adjustment range and can be used on the floor without being hard mounted if necessary. CSL Elite V2 is stiffer and arguably more authentic feeling. I personally prefer the CSL Elite V2 pedals as they suit my driving style better.
To be fair, i traded the r5 bundle for this pro setup. These pedals dunk all over the moza srp (upgraded from lite) ones imho after using both for a bit. The moza setup was still fantastic; doing it over id skip r5 and just make my own bundle with r12, crp pedals and formula wheel. Im just a logitech lifer, and i have zero regrets getting the pro setup. I just regret getting into this rabbit hole😅
The cost of the pedals is nuts. I have the G Pro ordered but planning on keeping the tlcm pedals from trustmaster to use on PC.
Hi Will, I wish you make a comparison between Csl Elite Loadcell v2, CSL Loadcell, Moza CRP, Logitech Loadcell and V3.
@leomendoza450
Жыл бұрын
PLS this is budget-plus review i need lol
So around this price point what pedals would you prefer
great review. I am very tempted to buy this with the wheel. But I miss the how to mount the pedals on a rig. I have a PLAYSEAT using Fanatec CSL Elite (gen1) but I can figure how I would those on my PLAYSETA pedals plate. On the fanatec there are threads underneath the pedals that I am using with cut-off on the rig pedals plate. I cant see such Option on the Logitech when pedals are all assembled to the plate. Sorry if that's sounds dumb but how do you achieve this mounting?
@lockenessmotorsports818
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same pretty sure you could use cableties through a hole somewhere which is what i did for my inverted t3pas. Im also looking to upgrade i would drop a post on simracing sub reddit see what they say
I was wondering how u feel these pedals stack up against something like Thrustmasters TLCM’s or Fanatecs CSL’s with loadcell
I,m playing with my pedals on the carpet and my steering clamped to a wooden tv tray… when the racing gets heated I’m having to reposition the peddles with my feet as it turns sideways and I find myself steering with the dinner tray in the air swinging under the wheel…haha just bought some 2” square tubing and a cheap racing seat off of Amazon so upgrading !! 😂
I added the bundle to my cart on the Logitech site using your link. The wheel and Pedals. The Pedals are showing (Xbox) tho and I'm buying for PS5. Are the pedals the same as long as you get the PS5 -compatible wheel? I couldn't find any info on that. Cheers for any help.
@sheasamuels9320
Жыл бұрын
The pedals are universal since you have to plug them into the base in order to use them on a console. So yes, you can use them on PS5.
@joshwilles7540
Жыл бұрын
Best help you’ll get… don’t spend your money on this lol
@MikeDelta32
Жыл бұрын
hey Josh did you put thru the order? I took a chance they'd be compatible. I ordered mine I'm in the UK and just got email today saying pedals have shipped.... PS5 wheel is still processing
So we believe these will be able to be used on PS5 with a G29 but not yet? Am I understanding that right?
I just got the Fanatec Clubsport V3.
Great review. I'm wondering though how is your neck feeling? Your monitor must be mounted very high
@SGT___3722
Ай бұрын
I also noticed that
Is there a wheel stand you can reccomend for someone that needs to place this on carpet? I find it super hard to find good info
Had mine for a couple of months and they're great .Took quite a bit of adjusting and trying out different hardness of the elastomers but after a week or I was totally used to them and love em.Also dont forget you get feedback thru the pedals as well as the wheel which most ppl have no idea the pedals have true force too
@PeteV80
Жыл бұрын
What does truforce in the pedals do?
@Dave062YT
Жыл бұрын
@@PeteV80 Just adds a little immersion as u feel the vibration thru the pedals like when you drive your real car .u feel the engine and u feel tyre wear and rumble strips etc
@scottd7222
10 ай бұрын
Are they loud?
@Dave062YT
10 ай бұрын
@@scottd7222 No ,not at all.
@EarthIsFlat456
10 ай бұрын
The pedals do not have true force. You're feeling the vibration only because the wheel base vibrates and this vibration if strong enough can shake the whole rig.
Will, seems that the main thing you do not like is the soft brake. If one would use a rigid aftermarket mod instead of the soft pieces in the brake making it stiffer, would it make it comparable to Fanatec CSL elite v2, or are there some other major considerations I am missing right now?
Great review. I kind of miss information whether if adjustments for heel n toe driving can be done. Default setup does not seem like it is possible.
@SGT___3722
Ай бұрын
Take a look again at the adjustments part I guess there is enough to suit your needs
FINALLY NO POTENCIOMETERS, F*** FINALLY, thank you for this Deep review
Withdrew my comment on the price as i got the full bundle for a good price delivered free total £1212.48p and it's a very premium bundle the pedals are loadcell and you do get some spare bits to adjust the pedals with 3 spare USB sockets i am sure more is planned for the G Pro Base the price is in par with the Fanatec DD Pro whole bundle if you include desk clamp too and 3 pedal set and remember this is 11nm not 8nm,new F1 wheel is planned i bet?
I seen the price and laughed. I’ll stick with my g920 which is still brand new because I unplug and put under my desk when I am not using. The full pro set is insane pricing.
So, I’m watching this and I’m kinda lost. I’m new to sim racing and all the technical stuff, goes over my head. I was going to buy these pedals and wheel set. Is this set usable for a noob, straight out of the box? I don’t want to start taking stuff apart and possibly mess up or lose springs etc.
Wow. Such comprehensive reviews. Thanks ! I gladly put in BOOSTED at check out as I ordered the wheel and pedals yesterday :) couple questions : 1) can you get those pedal bar visualizations when playing GT7 on PS5? 2) is there a similar control center for PS5 to adjust the parameters? 3) why is there a clutch pedal but no shifter stick accessory? Doesn't seem to make much sense to me as shifting via the wheel doesn't use clutch right ? Thanks 👍
@BostonFaith
Жыл бұрын
The base has 4 usb ports as well and also has a quick release. This means there is coming more. Why would Logitech implement a decent quick release system without posibility to change the wheel. Doesn’t make sense, right? Same goes for shifter and handbrake.
@mariolis
Жыл бұрын
I just assumed that anyone buying such a wheel would probably also buy a 3rd party higher end shifter Im a G293 user and the 50€ logitech shifter aint gonna cut it if im ever gonna buy a DD Wheel like the Logitech Pro
Be interesting to know the shore ratings of those elastomers, give Barry a call 😂
What would it be like if you added an external metal spring to the brake pedal as well?
Boosted Media’s videos slowed down to 0.75x speed are so much better.
Gotta say the moza and fanatec wheel bases look cleaner
when playing on console with these pedals, if i press down on brake pedal and the brake meter doesn't go all the way up, does that mean the brake elements i am using are too stiff?
Do you have plans for reviewing the new Logitech Racing adaptor? 😊
What's the length and width in cm of the whole pedal set? Not sure if it would fit my rig. They could have made it more compact including the controller into the brake pedal or somewhere else.
@playerone82
Жыл бұрын
Its on the logitech website.
Just returned my g pro pedals, bought the simsonn ones instead. They definitely need to be tuned but once set up properly they are amazing. Way above something like the v3 csl and g pro. Plus they’re all metal and come in black and look fantastic. Don’t buy g pro when you can buy simsonn for 150$ish cheaper and much better
How do they compare to the Fanatec CSL Elite V2
Why didn't you add spring to brake peddle like for accelerator?
As long as there isn't any flex in the pedal plate I don't see an issue with it being plastic..
When will H-pattern shifter come out?
My g920 pedals have that potentiometer issue on my brake and gas pedal and it sucks do these not have the same issue abt a year later?
They're listed of the website as £349 but when I got to my basket they were on;y £262 ,Much better pice,very happy
Nice Review as always :)! But I don't agree that they, or the wheel, look expensive or high quality. I find both looks, I think mainly because of the plastic, relatively cheep. And the wheel looks way to gimmicky, because of the useless triangles, and bulky. And for that cheep (looking) materials, in combination with no additional wheels, no additional features of other expensive pedals (preload, 2-stage clutch...) and the fact that Logitech is a huge company where they make lots of units, and therefore way cheaper then the competition, the price is way to high!
Can any of you tell me whether or not the softest brake adjustment for the G Pro pedal would give me a similar amount of resistance on par with the "soft first half" of the G29 brake pedal, before you reach that very stiff rubber block? I plan to use this wheel and pedal set on my desk
@AnonAnon-qi4ts
3 ай бұрын
There are six rubber inserts to customize exactly how stiff you like the pedal. It feels progressive, not at all like the rubber stopper in the G29 pedals. Unscrew those pedals and take that rubber stopper out. The pro pedals aren't magic, there is no feedback like a real car, but they are miles better than the G29 pedals.
WOW LOGITECH COMING IN CRAZY
Why I dont have brake force ajustment in software?
Love the fact that they can be reconfigured, clutch would get put in a box in a minute.
Can this pedal set be used with the G29?
Any update on these working with the G29?
Do you see these being a inverted pedal set?
I like the design very much. I have the Fanatec CS V3, it's overbuilt and underengineered. However, Logitech isn't a boutique manufacturer, they have the manufacturing and design expertise and a global sales network and the economics of scale on their side so I would expect better pricing and I'm a bit dissapointed.
@caliginousmoira8565
Жыл бұрын
tryna make that money back from the 923.... they really need a new shifter though....
@jasper_of_puppets
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was hoping for a lower price tag too. That $1,000 USD just for the wheel is hard to swallow. If they had managed to do the whole bundle w/pedals for $1k, I'd be all in. You're right about Logitech's economics of scale, but I think at the end of the day, high-end sim racing is pretty niche, so there would probably be only so many of these that are gonna sell, even at a price of $100-200 less.
@lockenessmotorsports818
Жыл бұрын
And their customer service is as much use as a chocolate teapot
@trappedintimesurroundedbye5477
11 ай бұрын
@@jasper_of_puppets815 for wheel 313 pedals why do you people keep complaining 😂 this guy even gives you a code 😂 come on
@trappedintimesurroundedbye5477
11 ай бұрын
I used your code and bought both
Hey will. I think the travel measurement does make sense when you think about it. Because if you set it to the stiffest setting it’s going to travel less then what it would if it was set to the softest setting. (Provided the loadcell setting doesn’t change). Yes it will take more force to reach the same about if travel, but there is a limit to how much it will compress the elastomers.
Can I use those pedals with my G29?
Thanks for all the great info and videos. I do have a questions, The logitech g pro currently "requires" ITS pedals for use on consoles. Do you know is it possible to use the logitech g pro wheel with another manufacturers pedal set, say fanatec CSL V3 if you use the Collective Minds drive hub? - Anyway thanks for all the info!boostedBoosted Reply
Thrustmaster has also made a dd set to be released in the coming days we will see who wins the gamers choice
Holding out hope that they release a shifter that's actually good. This product release looks great so far. Not done watching the review yet.
Is there some kind of adaptor to connect the new wheel with the G29 pedals?
@boostedmedia
Жыл бұрын
Not yet but there will be soon apparently.