The choice of skip vs full simply comes down to two things: 1) Whether your saw has enough power to pull a full chain on a given bar length 2) Whether the bar length and wood type forces you into a skip because a full chain can't clear well enough (usually 32" + range). On my 572xp I will run full chain on a 28" bar or less. If I go to a 32" bar in hardwood i need a skip chain.

Thanks for sharing guys! An Informative an good review on the two styles. Andrew from NB :)

Skip tooth just means that you can put a 24” bar on to cut bigger wood, but It will have the same amount of teeth and feel the same to the saw and it’s RPMs as a 16” full comp.

@bethanyhaskiell9116

9 ай бұрын

A skip tooth chain does not have the same amount of cutter teeth as a full house chain that why you use them on long bars they have less drag and less cutters to file

Good compression if your sawing dirty wood. Skip be better don’t have to sharpen as much.

I like using full chisel skip on my 25” & 28” long bars and full chisel non skip on my 16” & 20” bar. The skip tooth seems to cut faster however it also gets dull faster

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

Not sure what powerheads your using but I’m sure with a 60cc or a farm and ranch saw the skip chain would definitely work better on a 25-28” bar than fill chisel.

I typically will run skip chain on at least one of my "smaller" saws. It helps a bit, but advantage is less teeth to sharpen. Very cool guys

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

I’d like to try a 24” bar with a full skip on my 550xp. Thanks for watching!

@jeremynguyen2346

Жыл бұрын

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@CamperKev

11 ай бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. About the same cutting time but less teeth to sharpen.

Skip of full chisel🤷‍♂️ I have no experience with skip a tooth chain so thanks for the comparison. 👊🏻

Excellent test. Interesting results. Good video

Just started the vid and was pleased to hear of controlling variables in comparing skip to full comp then disappointed to see type of chain not controlled so won't know if any differences between skip/full comp are from that or from brand of chain. Good real world knowledge needs good real world control of variables. I appreciate that equipment costs lots a $$$ and I like the quality of your vids. Keep up the good stuff and keep making your good better and your better best. sincerely d

I do not mind sharpening. I select chain type based upon bar length. 24" and less full comp of cutters. Longer bars get skip to help with roon to clear the chips from the kerf.

Full comp will always be faster if you have the power to pull it. Skip reduces the number of cutters, reducing the amount of work done with every revolution of the chain. So you can pull a larger bar with skip. Only benefit.

@philporritt5963

Ай бұрын

Run a 572 with 20" on Iron Bark here in Aus. Pull Skip with an 8 Tooth Sprocket & it's the my fastest cut combinations. Contributing factor will be the 30 thou Depth gauges, & admittedly haven't tried lowering them on Full Comp.

Excellent idea for a video. To be honest I had never really thought about it until your video.

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! It’s been on my mind for awhile just had to swing by the husky shop to get some chain.

Great video!! I like the skip tooth chain!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

My 462 came with a 28" bar, and cuts well with a full comp. I'll be using skip on a 36" bar to cheat and have less cutters to pull through a larger tree with a small saw. It cuts like crazy with a 20" full comp. Can really lean on the dogs without bogging in the little stuff. However, the only reason I run a 20" is for dirty stuff on the ground. 28" is nice to hold the saw at hip level with knees just bent and bucking up stuff on the ground still.

Every cut can be a easier cut or a harder cut also, just like hand splitting the next round might be easier or harder to split. I run a skip just for the sharpening part. I also run a 20 inch bar. I do have a 36 and 25 but they seldom get used.

@thegrayhillbilly

7 ай бұрын

A lot don't consider the sharpening. If you are a production faller, or firewood bucker, you will get in more cuts in a day with skip vs full because you spend less time hunched over a stump sharpening a chain.

I did a lot of cutting in some hard Ash yesterday with a 30" bar with RS full-chisel Stihl chain on my 91cc MS660.... I had to bury the bar, and the saw needed all the power I could get. It did get me wondering if a skip chain would be a better option...

Was the skip tooth a semi chisel chain? If so that can alter the speed also. Good test though for sure

Great comparison! If anything the skip tooth is easier to sharpen👍👍

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I was thinking as well!

Skips work great on buckin big spars with a 400C 25” and best of all less teeth to file. $20 more for full skip, which I don’t understand, but worth it to me. Great job.

I run and old 266xp with a 24in full comp, bought a newer 460 rancher and the 24 in full comp bogs, drop a full skip on it and it runs great. Power matters, run the biggest bar/chain combo you can keep up the rpm’s.

Never really thought about it. Are skip tooth chains cheaper because they have less teeth?

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

You’d think… nope, same price.

On my 390xp i use 24,32, and 36 inch bars but only use skip tooth on the 36 but I do have a full house also but i like having less teeth to sharpen is about the only benefit now maybe if I went longer than 36 I would really start seeing a difference in cut rpm

Full skip is only faster with long bars(30in & up) in big wood. Clears the chips out of the cut much better than full comp. The only benefit a full skip has on shorter bars (shorter than 30in) is fewer cutters to sharpen. Some people use them so that they can pull a longer bar on an underpowered saw. I honestly don't know why they make full skip chain under 30in. It's made specifically for long bars in big wood. Full skip also dulls faster than full comp because each cutter is working double time to make up for the lack of cutters.

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

Good information, we just ran it for fun on a common saw and setup others might use.

@PurpleNovember

Жыл бұрын

A lot of it depends on what you’re cutting through. As long as the chips are being cleaned, full comp is usually faster and smoother. We run full skip on 20” and up. It cuts faster but it’s not just the chain. I spin the full skips faster and adjust raker heights and cutting tooth angles. The oak and pine we’re cutting through seems to bind up full comp pretty easy. My chains make great chips but there’s a dust/pulp byproduct that clumps up easily, I’m told it’s because the trees grow so fast and mixed species(?). The square ground I’m running last just as long as full comp square, but round file full skip dulled quicker. We are in a very sandy environment so the chains are usually dulled by sand, either in the bark or in-beaded inside the tree under the bark. Square last a lot longer than round file for us and I’m working on going to .404 from 3/8.

@CutterCH

Жыл бұрын

@timl.9990 Not by all of my extensive testing results. I used to think it was faster on a 20in and 24in but no. Full skip isn't faster on short bars in any kind of wood.

@PurpleNovember

Жыл бұрын

@@CutterCH are you comparing chain to chain and not changing anything else? Stopping to remove the bar out of the cut definitely takes longer in my experience. Full comp just binds up a lot more in this stuff. When it doesn’t bind up it’ll cut a little faster. A nine or ten pin rim full skip square cuts pretty fast.

@CutterCH

Жыл бұрын

@timl.9990 Yep. I do all testing 100% accurate. I don't change anything. Same bar, chain brands, same saw. Just swapping out the chains to do time cuts. If I run a Stihl rs full comp, I'll compare it to the same chain in full skip. I use several different chain brands too. The rs is just an example.

Has your Stihl dealer went up in price on chains yet ? Mine has $43 for a 20'' chain

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

Probably, I think retail on a 24” chain is 47$

I prefer a skip chain, when the bar is past 3' it's less filing, and you'll never notice that it has less teeth.

Less teeth to sharpen is a huge advantage. I always ran a skip tooth chain on my bigger saws (460 and 310). Full comp chain is just a pain to sharpen. My opinion only!

Not a professional but I know a couple. Bar length notwithstanding I Have been led to believe the full skip Is better in soft wood. Any thoughts. On that?

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

I’m Not sure, We don’t cut much soft wood. I don’t see any benefit to running a full skip unless you want a longer bar on a saw that can’t handle a full comp. We just run 25” bars on most saws and they handle a full comp no problem. Thanks for watching! This full skip chain did just find a new home on a 50cc saw, video will be coming out soon!

@billbertagnoli4226

Жыл бұрын

@@765Guys thanks. I'm a Guy who cuts 40 face cords a year for heat. Always Used full chisel. For me a shorter lightweight bar does the trick. I run a husky 550xp with a 16 in lightweight Bar and 575xp with a 20 in bar for The bigger stuff. Appreciate your Honest reply and hard cutting test. Be careful out there.

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

@@billbertagnoli4226 sounds like you stay busy! We just run 24-25” bars to avoid bending over. Don’t really need the full 25 but makes my back feel better 🤣

@lashlarue7924

3 ай бұрын

@@765Guysthis. Save your back. Also keep the saw's moment of inertia away from you so it kicks back over you rather than into you.

I just know that when I eat a cob of corn, I need a full compliment of teeth installed.

skip tooth probably easier to maintain

Skip tooth chain can tell it looked way slow. Compared to full chisle

??? "full chisel vs full skip"?? thats quite literally like comparing or saying "chevy 350 vs ford power steering box" lol theyre two completely unrelated things.. as far as tooth profile, its either full chisel vs round vs square vs semi n so on.. n for cutting link spacing its normal, semi n full skip, u cant really compare the two against each other...

is the skip tooth chain not also full chisel though?... Surely it isn't semi chisel?

@765Guys

7 ай бұрын

That is correct, I should correct my title.

@rbruce5270

7 ай бұрын

​@@765Guys 👍❤ not tryna be a smart arse!!🤣 I just wasn't sure, been looking at getting a longer bar on my 61/272, currently 20in... Full skip vs no skip doesn't seem to be much different so maybe I'll go full skip, much less teeth to sharpen and much less likely to bog down, seems worth it for only a fraction slower in the cut

About as real world as you can get. Not same brand chain. I don’t think I have matching chain brand on my saws. Never have ran Husqvarna chain

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

Now I want to try a skip on my little 545

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

Same! I want to try a 24” small mount bar on mine with a skip chain and see how it does.

First, why would you think that having half the cutting teeth would cut faster if you aren't spinning the chain twice as fast? Second, the whole point of using a skip tooth is to clear out the chips more easily when using a really long bar.

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

I think the idea is with half the teeth it wouldn’t slow your saw down as much, resulting in more chain speed. Like you said, if it clears the chips out faster does both factors make it cut faster? Turns out no, but without doing it and finding out i wouldn’t know for sure.

Skip tooth on 30+

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

I agree 👍, thanks for watching!

Would be interesting to see how they compare “Noodling”……especially in the big wood! Good one ✔️ Tote Heaven 😎 🪵⛓🪚👍👏🇺🇸 Rick

@765Guys

Жыл бұрын

Might have to give it a try! Thanks for watching rick!