Akirose sometimes feels like a warrior of bad luck. I can clearly see how much effort she puts into her 3D concerts, especially. And what a good singer she is.

@EntidadLibre

Жыл бұрын

This especially makes me sad. While she's not low on numbers, it still feels like she's underrated. I don't understand why Aki doesn't have more subs. Aki and Mel are the only ones in the first generation who didn't get a million in 5 years. It just feels wrong.

@Fishman465

Жыл бұрын

​@EntidadLibre both suffered in early visibility, which had a big impact as those (Shion, Ayame) with better visibility early on are able to ride out long breaks. They do have day jobs which complicate things some, though Mel's making a decent turn around. Aki for a time to put it simply meandered (an issue seen with Choco-sensei and Roboco) which didn't help. Midnight JST streams don't have great visibility. Her splatoon addiction didn't help either (I looked at a growth chart which showed splatoon slowed it)... I still fear a relapse But these days Choco and Aki have been showing more drive.

@Juhno

Жыл бұрын

@@Ayunda.Nelsen Matters of taste. I think Akirose looks great. But I don't think that the hours watched have an effect: No matter how much I watched, I had my first hours too.

I am grateful for Pekora & Marine too, now that the pressure had been lifted from Fubuki, she can be a friend that accompany this life with me.

@XxRobDeBobxX

Жыл бұрын

Till death do you part?

@Yanasmiko

Жыл бұрын

@@XxRobDeBobxX yes, of course! Till death do us part

@joeschmoe2843

Жыл бұрын

...what the fuck? Dude, go outside.

@bmanpura

Жыл бұрын

Very halu but I agree.

@nietzchan

Жыл бұрын

as Reine would say, GWS

Man, Fubuki is such a keeper. She's comfortable with others being ahead of her & take the rein... but when shit hit the fan & there's nobody to lead, she would undoubtedly be the first one to volunteer. That's Hololive pillar for you.

@HadirUntukAnda

11 ай бұрын

yeah i feel like she is the real pillar and leader of hololive not sora

@captsomeguy1

10 ай бұрын

@@HadirUntukAnda Sora's the poster child and face of the company. Fubuki is the one where the other members run to screaming, "Fubuki-san, help me, I don't know how I'm supposed to do X."

@NatsumiKuroki269

7 ай бұрын

@@HadirUntukAnda sora is the foundation that made hololive exist in the first place and was also the pillar that hold them for so long until the 1st and 2nd gen came around

@HadirUntukAnda

7 ай бұрын

nope sora didnt do any shit to make hololive bigger, she just luckyly debuted first and do idol shit stuff, its fbk and her content that make hololive known around the world, fbk impact is far more sora@@captsomeguy1

@user-rc1ub7zl5n

5 ай бұрын

@@NatsumiKuroki269 Exactly, you really can't discount Sora as not a pillar, Hololive itself wouldn't have existed if she quit before it took off. The talents themselves for better or for worse hold her in the highest regard exactly because of this.

I love this wholesome deep talk it makes me wanna cry, even though other members have passed Fubuki it still feels like she is a leader in hololive, whenever a collab or sponsored stream happens or anything she does just natural take charge, I'm very thankful for Fubuki hololive wouldn't be what it is without her honestly 🌽She is so open minded and friendly and reliable Fubuki is amazing

@abbc5156

Жыл бұрын

Honestly she always felt like the biggest leader figure in holo. It's not about the generation or numbers. It's about how earnestly she supports hololive and even holostars members. At least for me, she always felt like one of us, fans of hololive but she supports it being a member at the same time.

Hands down! Big respect for FBK being one of the strongest pillar and Best support for Hololive! 😍🥺

I remember when Fubuki, back when she was still the most subscribed member, talked about how lonely it felt for her to be singled out at the top, and I'm pretty sure again after Korone overtook her in terms of numbers she taled about how she felt relieved. To me, Fubuki will always be the face and pillar of Hololive, even though I'm glad she nowadays doesn't have the pressure to be either of these anymore.

0:57 Girrrrrl, I totally get you. Props to Aki for having the mental strength to keep on trucking these many years

Thing is, there's not a member of hololive that has anything to be ashamed of, numbers-wise. The lowest subscribed to members still have hundreds of thousands of subs and at least tens of thousands of views per stream/video. Given how KZread goes that's extremely impressive. But, true as that is, I'm sure it's still hard not to see it like that and instead see themselves as trailing behind their colleagues.

@ikr9358

Жыл бұрын

I sometimes compare it to baseball. Once you're in the Major Leagues, there's an expectation to perform, or at least be on par with your teammates. Otherwise, there's the fear that you'll be sent down to the Minors.

@SoraRaida

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Couldn't really emphasize this enough. People kept saying "Man, I feel bad for " or "This Holomem is underrated" or "I hope this Holomem is more popular" but they're doing very well! Take a look at other companies or indie VTubers and you'll see Hololive is really well off in terms of subs and views.

@fj094t58qjf

Жыл бұрын

true, even for lowest subs in hololive production still has more subs than a lot of other vtubers out there

@world4saker

Жыл бұрын

also they see that hololive being bigger is better for everyone even if when a sponsorship come is even if they dont get it but someone else it helps out everyone not just themselves. that is one big difference as to why hololive is so big and even if they had missteps handling graduations the fnas stick with them cause we want to support all the girls and guys.

@azkon7975

Жыл бұрын

This was exactly the thing that Kaichou said to Watame, once upon a time. Watame and Coco were having a heart-to-heart on-stream where Watame was feeling down that her singing show isn't going that well and that her numbers weren't as good as everyone else's. Coco's response was: "I think your perspective is wrong." Coco went on to say something along the lines of [heavily paraphrased]: You're comparing yourself the wrong way. You're actually amazing. There's people down here only having 1000-2000 subscribers. You have what? 200,000 subscribers (at the time)? That's amazing. You're doing fine. Just continue doing your own thing and people will keep watching you. And you know what? Watame is doing just fine.

If there's a leadership figure among holomems it'd be definitely Fubuki. I feel like she's the most dependable and one of the best mentor figure for all the girls. Really glad she's in Hololive.

Anyone familiar with Fubuki knows that she is a huge advocate for Hololive in general. Years ago she even said how uncomfortable she felt with being called the Queen of Hololive and continued to advocate for other members and encouraged people to go watch their streams. One time I think it was 3rd Gen were having a stream and Fubuki who was streaming at the same time told her viewers that if they didn't mind they should go and watch the 3rd gen stream and that watching her vod was fine.

@popcorn4070

Жыл бұрын

I haven't been around since Hololive's beginnings but I respect FBK so much for how she has stood strong through so much, been there for viewers through really heartbreaking times like Rushia's termination, Coco's graduation etc, and still stands by Cover/Hololive as a good company. I will never forget the clip of her assuring everyone something along the lines of "As long as Hololive remains a good company I will be here" Somehow, I feel fully confident in trusting her word on that.

I love when there's goofy clips posted but there's just not enough of these heart to heart clips that really show their personalities. It's these clips that tie their personalities up into perfect bows. I need more of these.

I love these girls. Every one of them is a reason for Hololive's greatness. Numbers are important. But they mean nothing compared to the greatness these ladies put forward for us fans.

It is an industry of numbers and it's heart breaking sometimes to see Aki and others in Hololive "struggle." I still hope that one day they all have their moment that propels them forward like Miko did so they can all run as a strong group without some members feeling like they're always trailing behind.

@doob626

Жыл бұрын

Everyone gets moments, like Mio, she wasn’t doing as well as the others and started feeling depressed about it, but once she had a chat with Okayu and they both voiced their thoughts, Mio had a rush of fans flowing in, not just for numbers but of fans showing her something she missed while worrying over those digits, their actual love for her as she is, and everything that came with it, be it bad or good.

@mystrunner5166

Жыл бұрын

They would have their time, as long as they push on they would find their niche and gain a sizeable loyal following. We had lots of precedents like Suisei w/ her singing, Luna with her Piano and retro game streams, Subaru w/ her Rpg and watchalongs, Kaela w/ her grinding games, Koyori w/ her unexplainable frequency in streaming, Kanata w/ her Fromsoft games, and the recent Azki with her geogusser. As long as the holobox exist, those inside would thrive.

@ChuinYih

Жыл бұрын

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing if the numbers don't grow, especially if what you have in return is a loyal and tightly knitted community. Inflated subscription numbers that don't really convert to actual view count and engagement actually harms monetization and staying on the algorithm. Bonsai pop on yt made a video on the subject sometime last year iirc, go give it a watch if you're interested in the subject.

@Fishman465

Жыл бұрын

@@ChuinYih Problem is sub numbers seem tied to certain merch like figures and gigs. it doesn't help things like new 3d models is generally tied to getting past a million subs. the whole thing tends to cause two loops: well known popular talents become more so while less popular are stuck in the shadows.

@mystrunner5166

Жыл бұрын

​@@Fishman465​They might lag behind superchat or merch but according to holo's official pdf the big bucks comes from lending IP and sponsorships. Hololive make sure that all of the girls get some sort of sponsorship w/o looking at sub numbers. Aki's even included in last year's baseball collab.

Thank you for translating something so important

Og Fubuki oufti is still the cutest

A rare case of the topic being touched at both ends at once. It's heartwarming that such a gap hasn't soured things/etc. Fubuki also helped Aki during the Mario Kart Tourney tech support wise.

"The meme lady has been overtaken by ero and war crimes, and it gave her sense of relief" The sentence can only be make sense in this era

There's actually a time where everyone follows the view leader (plays the same game, etc.) because of views but nowadays they just follow if the game interests them. And I think that's beautiful.

Holos ability to find gems is unparalleled

I was introduced to Fubuki through her goofy music covers in winter 2019-20. Then in february I searched Fubuki on youtube and the first clip I ever watched was of Fubuki talking about this topic while playing Ark. I didn't know she was part of a group until then. Back then she was the undisputed nr 1. Little did I know I had just unleashed Pandora's Box on my recommended feed.

少しは数字を気にしているだろうなと思うから、今年のフェスでムキロゼ兄貴のインタビューを見たアキロゼ先輩が号泣していたシーンを見て、私も涙が流れたよ😊

5th anniversary already?, Sure time flies....

Alil behind the scenes of the pressures gura may be facing

@vvaleddy

Жыл бұрын

Yes, specially since no one else is taking the wheel. At least Pekora and Marine know that Miko, Korone, Suisei and Subaru are still there. HoloEN doesn't have enough talents to fill the gaps.

@Fishman465

Жыл бұрын

​@Val Yeah.... the freakish growth put her In a rough spot despite her genmates being equal to some of JP's most popular.

@lucifenxarthos625

Жыл бұрын

@@vvaleddy "HoloEN doesn't have enough talents to fill the gaps." Thats not because HoloEN doesn't have enough talents generally - it's just that the gap is far too big.

@WW-ik7vr

Жыл бұрын

@@vvaleddy tbf Cali is right up there w peko and marine but it's not about who in EN can give gura support but Moreso that Gura is carrying the pressure for ALL of Hololive hence her hectic schedule while in Japan but also why several JP members adore and are quick to support Gura ie the aforementioned Marine and peko who gura has stated has been very supportive

@vvaleddy

Жыл бұрын

@@WW-ik7vr i don't think Gura is carrying Hololive. She never did. Not even Pekora is doing that right now. I think Gura's fanbase doesn't have other options inside HoloEN besides her. That's why she can't rest and let the other girls do the heavy lifting: her fans are not necessarily HololiveEN fans.

These talents really trudged on through the tough times to get over to this wonderful future

So 6th anniversary coming huh!? Time flies fast

hololive is something you can probably one day not watch anymore , but you will come back, sooner or later

this clip just too wholesome 😢

Thanks for Aki (and Friend) clip 🙏

Sub count in today's YT only means that at some point that many people watch your video and liked it enough to subscribe, nothing more really. If we talk about success particularly in streaming, you have to look at the concurrent viewer count. In regards to that, I think Aki is doing well especially whenever she does her "forte" streams.

@rade-blunner7824

Жыл бұрын

The thing about sub-counts is I've always felt subscribing is easy but unsubscribing isn't. If people lose interest over time they're more likely to just not click on the videos when they appear in their feed than they are to actually bite the bullet and unsubscribe. You need to be particularly annoyed or some significant change has to happen to really drive you to push that button, so I feel the significance that's put on that number can become a little skewed over time. But yeah, average live viewer count, that's a tasty stat right there...

@einrin.

Жыл бұрын

yeah subs don't mean much if you look at guras and pekos concurrent live viewers for example

Speaking of numbers Korone is close to reaching 2M subs

Something must be wired in my brain to always bet on dark horses. My member preferences have juiced my algorithm with a steady dose of Flare, Aki, and Anya. I always hear “Oh, I kinda forgot Flare existed. What is she up to?” And I’m like “For real?? Her stuff is always at the top for me. Does Pekora even stream anymore?” Fuckin algorithms are whacky. You can see even in a shared-interest community that there’s a large divide.

@DanielGonzalez-vo5ni

Жыл бұрын

I wish I got more Anya she hardly get recommended to me and I feel like for Flare I have to search harder like she's never one of the first

@Sac-chan

7 ай бұрын

fckn same, specially with irys and fubuki, i always get ayame/calli/kiara/okayu and marine, but the rest i have to search them out, or go to one of their upcoming streams and click the bell for them to appear to me later

respect

Social media really has made us forget the true value of numbers. Having even 10 viewers is amazing. I mean, imagine playing a game at home while 10 people were in the same room just watching you play because you're entertaining. That'd be fricking crazy. But if you're streaming and you have "only" 10 viewers then you're considered a failure. I dunno, shit just makes no sense to me. I'm glad the girls are trying their best to not get wrapped up in the numbers too much.

No one talking how struggling holoID back then and im glad the ID doesn't care about number and always breathtaking and amazing when it comes to live concert and performances❤❤

@DanielGonzalez-vo5ni

Жыл бұрын

Bro I remember it was a struggle for those girls Moona actually had the lowest among gen1 before rapiz razuri give me blew up but they used to celebrate all the milestones I remember I think a 55K subscriber celebration I'm just glad they stuck with it and we got to where we are today with Kobo being the 1st ID to hit 2M

@exceedgod

Жыл бұрын

Isn't it just because you can do that?

I'm glad when I was first introduced to Hololive, my first subbing is Aki ❤️

Those who fixate on the hundreds of thousands or millions of subs or viewers, whether it be content creators or viewers, often forget just how massive even a a thousand subs/views are. Imagine being in a room with a thousand people. Sure it's small on paper, but that's still an overwhelming number of eyeballs on you at once. Not at all something to be ashamed of.

FBK is such a real one. Solid, caring, wise, supportive, trustworthy and so much more that I don't have the words for. Sadly it is somewhat of a numbers game but I hope that behind it all they're all still having fun even through the stress and pressure. I hope they know that they can turn to other Holomembers for support when they feel down. They might not all be super close with eachother but I think they're all there for eachother in one way or another.

Everyone have their own problem and worry, doesn't matter whether ure on top or bottom

I found Hololive because of Fubuki. 'Nuff said.

If Rushia's termination didn't happen, three of the 3rd gen should've been representing the top spots for highest subs in JP. it is well-deserved for them as 3rd Gen's debut pretty much marks the start of Hololive's rise to fame as well. while the three of them are on the front lines streaming. Fubuki, Aqua, Ayame and Matsuri then went on to be the most recognized faces of Hololive, being shown on brand collabs, TV, radios and many more.

@Theydas

Жыл бұрын

U mean if Russia hadn't gone mad forcing Hololive to terminate her?

@thegemguy1334

Жыл бұрын

Yeah... I still lament what happened from time to time. But such is life.

@ronothehumble7895

3 ай бұрын

Yup the three of them streaming with the current viewer counts.. im guessing maybe around 100k or 150k viewers combined in one live stream..??? Pekora has an average of 20k maybe 30k marine 30k to 40k And rushia if things didn't happen and if it is in the past most likely the same no. So yeah pretty much big hitters there.

I just want to say, aside from Hololive success with Fubuki/Coco/HoloEN and etc, I want to give a shout-out to the clippers. I do think the clippers were very vital and important to their success though ( I mean, I dont think any English people will watch the JP one and understand it ) and despite some clippers retired/stop, just wanna say thanks to them too!

@narukamiyuu9698

Жыл бұрын

hard to say, being a clipper is not that simple.. they have to get some mood and time to work, i can't say clipper's is a job, every clipper's must have their own real job of course, and they have to get some good and fresh content.. number's is also important if nothing they can get there they can do nothing, bruh cover corp have so many talent people can't check every streams and even they have community it's not a big help :') that's why clipper only clip a talent who already famous because it's more easy to get viewers also like or comment, to get some talent who always make fun stuff, or more intresting at every clip that's what people want.

@Jinrou_Yumeno

Жыл бұрын

English speakers can watch and understand JP Vtubers. It's called being bilingual 😅

@RaydeusMX

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, clippers really help, specially for the Holomems I'm not subbed to. And considering I've stopped watching HoloEN (except for IRyS) watching older clips has become my life line for catching up with JP members like Ayame.

@gigachad5961

Жыл бұрын

Yup clippers are really appreciated because there’s people like me who don’t understand a word of Japanese so these translated clips help a lot!

@orangeapples

Жыл бұрын

And the clippers had a huge influence on who gets views. I remember watching Aki before clippers all seemingly rallied behind her at around the same time. Suddenly her numbers shot up from where they were. Clippers can also influence how a streamer is viewed which is why quality of clipper is so important.

cute fubuki and akirose of holojp gen 1 talking about hololive's growth over the years.

Heavy weighs the crown

Sora may be the founding member of Hololive, and other hyper-charismatic members have gained significant notoriety for various reasons (Marine, Pekora, Korone, Miko, Suisei, Subaru and Aqua are all heavy hitters)... but I'll always consider Fubuki to be the _de facto leader_ of the group.

@jean-pierrebenzenique

Жыл бұрын

I also feel that way, even though she’s quite a shy person, she did her best to lead each member of this group to do their best I think she is more of the face of Hololive, the blue/white color chosen for the icon of Cover Corps, seems likely using her color, idk if that’s true or not, but I didn’t find any other member with the same color as that

@sapilaut2

Жыл бұрын

As do i. And i put her words to heart: "as long as i'm still here, you can put your faith in hololive." No matter what drama, speculations, rrats, whatever shits the trolls and haters are stirring out there in the internet, as long as Fubuki remains, i have no doubts.

@jean-pierrebenzenique

Жыл бұрын

@@sapilaut2 as Haachama said, Fubuki is truely a savior of Hololive

@raisofahri5797

Жыл бұрын

​@@jean-pierrebenzeniquecover corp icon is pretty much sora, she are with them from the very start from test project to streaming to hololive that we know off, sora is practically defacto leader while fubuki is spoke person

then u have sora, constantly holding on to da hololive flag leading it to where it is now

@shinigamimiroku3723

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. No matter the numbers, Sora will always be the leader. o7

@jolynefanacount4326

Жыл бұрын

What's the last thing Sora did as a "leader"?

@cantdrinkmilk

Жыл бұрын

@@shinigamimiroku3723 Not really a leader, mostly a spearhead or an anchor if I must say.

@spongebobfan78

Жыл бұрын

Fubuki is more of a leader compared to Sora. Sora is more like the face of Hololive. But honestly, knowing Sora, she's probably more OK with that than being the leader.

@ctrlcrl9184

Жыл бұрын

a bit unrelated but sometimes i feel bad for sora when some members put her on a pedestal and couldnt interact with them normally when shes just trying to goof off with them

I cant find old clip where fubuki cry she dont want people to call her "the no. 1/leader, etc) something like that i forgor

FBK o7

Comparing subscriber counts is kind of pointless and bizarre, if you think about it at all. Imagine you're drinking coffee and someone's like "You're drinking coffee? But the world-wide tea market is 10% larger than the coffee market!" Well, so fucking what? What is that even supposed to mean?

@Micheldied

Жыл бұрын

In their world, it's a statistic that correlates to how well they're doing in their field. Is it the only, or most important statistic to look at? No, but you can't blame them for doing so. Drinking coffee isn't a livelihood, but for them, streaming is. It's not an equal comparison at all.

@ronothehumble7895

3 ай бұрын

I get what you say and i understand .. But yeah the real world .. the people... Well what the majority see is achievement and for streamers no. Of viewers is hard truth. Of course I'm not saying that low no. Means you are doing badly ..but AGAIN it hurts me that is what the world is... Money is important looks are important and in this case the number of views ... Is important.. And again I'm not saying low no. is bad.. it's the majority of the world. Damn my grammar is stupid haaha

I feel that the thumbnail is too out of context. I won't say anything about it being too clickbaity but at least, yeah...

Funny thing is that it was Korone who originally surpassed Fubuki.

@RaiKageRyu

Жыл бұрын

For first to 1M yes... but FBK retook the lead from Korone later on and is currently only one of 3 JP to hit 2M (the other being Pekora and Marine ofc).

I feel bad for gura. i think her large numbers hurt her. i remember fubuki and korone were on the cusp of 1 mil and seeing some fans angry that gura took the title not long after she debuted, even saw some of those fans rubbing her success in her genmates faces. bad times.

@TheJeyR

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that kinda shit has gotta be terrible for your mental health, not only do you feel you just got into a new job and suddenly a huge set of expectations was placed on you, but there's people shaming your colleagues for a success you likely feel you dont deserve, and one that you were able to get thanks to those same colleagues people are shaming now

@NousagiCaptain

Жыл бұрын

Also I think it still wears at her right now, being the biggest Vtuber, she cant slide into the background and take it easy without everyone noticing and bothering her about where she is. Sometimes it feels really good to just be average or be in the background. So you can look at others, instead pf everyone looking at you.

@lordvolsung1203

Жыл бұрын

People really underestimate the mental pressure on those in the forefront of the company. Gura is basically up there, practically the face of HoloMyth and even HoloEN as a whole. And I think the pressure that FBK felt back then, is the same one that's getting to Gura in these times.

@velfare

Жыл бұрын

Gura probably burn out now… hope she come back stronger

@NousagiCaptain

Жыл бұрын

@@lordvolsung1203 Pretty much, its cool to be in the front for a bit. But being able to vanish like Hachamma or Ayame does and people not bother you is something she cant do. Good news is, i THINK peopebare gettin used to it? But idk i dont watch Gura like that.

It's really a good thing that they're all not too focused on "numbers" alone. Otherwise, almost all of HoloPro would either had quit or be fired for failing to meet such unrealistic standards.

i think this related with id girls to, after 3 years gen 1 leading the holoid, now is time for 3rd and 2nd gen get the baton

Aki: I was tormented by numbers. Gura: Me too, but in a different way.

I'm pretty sure this is why Gura has been gone for so long. She's kind of ubiquitous in the world of VTubing. I doubt she signed up thinking that would happen.

In hololive is good, popular member are Ultra Rare doing group collab where only popular streamer in it. Example CAMP collab coco aqua marine pekora (they only do 1 stream) Imagine collab group that having member like miko, korone, fubuki, aqua, pekora, marine in 1 stream is too much and then become unit🤣 Ofc fans want to see that happen. Meanwhile neighbors always doing it

Numbers...Kobo dominating ID xD

@Cuacky_RK

Жыл бұрын

Numbers can be tricky, Because in some cases there are channels with millions of subs but that number is not reflected in viewers. It doesn't make sense for someone from 2m to have an audience of sub 10k. better put subscribers on 2nd, a Streamer is measured in live viewership. Anyway, as long they have fun

@WarriorOfTheLostLand

Жыл бұрын

Cunny can’t beat hag 🐧

@exceedgod

Жыл бұрын

On the other hand, the number of livestream viewers is still low. Nothing to be proud of It's a number that comes up because of seniors, not because of yourself.

Fubuki and Korone are the leading members that time.

Streamers should stop thinking about numbers. Some types of content output is not liked by the majority, but it is liked by a certain population that can't get it elsewhere. I am sure that minority is eternally thankful for it, and would be sad if it's gone. If that were not the case, everyone would watch a single streamer.

@Fishman465

Жыл бұрын

That sort of is happening with EN considering the gap between Gura and her genmates. Woe betide anyone who had a stream along hers.

When aki says something like this, I get this a lot. Like, okay, so what they are doing are amazing, why comparing? Why can't we enjoy the things we have while you're sitting with your keyboard crapping on them as if we don't exist? We also have insane things just like as your community have, and I don't mean as number of them, they are also as big as them, and when I mean this, as how they impacted on. Stop saying as if we don't exist. This is why I hate numbers.

So what exactly are the kind of "struggle" and "pressure" do these vtubers get/talk about? Is it low viewer count?

@captsomeguy1

10 ай бұрын

I'm guessing low and high subscribers/viewer count. Being number one in subs meant that you've became the face and flagship of the company, and everyone is expecting the quality of your work to be the best of the best. Too low and everyone's gonna be like, "Why are you so far behind everyone else?" And in the earlier days when most of them have low subs, there's pressure to increase those numbers otherwise the company might scrap the whole thing and everyone loses their job. Right now they both have a good amount of subs/views and earning good money, and Fubuki's no longer number one, but still gets to enjoy the benefits of being among the top without the stress of being number one.

this video was tailor made for 4chan

Personally, I'm thankful to Coco Kaichou. She had the fastest growth in JP Vtubers scene back then (before Gen 5, Gen 6, and Salome). But during her fast growth, she always took care of her senpai and continuously worked with other members to push Hololive growth together. Feeling like it is one of the standard right now in most Vtuber agencies when the top hitter helped other members to reach the goals together. Like right now even though Aki and Lui are at bottom, they are still belong to top 10% Vtuber in subscription numbers.

without gen 0 to 1 and 2 and make 3 and other's growing without them i think it's hard for the newgen too i bealive.. Gen 0 and 1 make the foundation and gen 2 help make it more, and gen 3 also EN is coming with a big surpraise.. i think it's the day everyone at cover corp get their moment from there, especially from JP talent.. when gura got famous, marine got famous to overseas and pekora, rushia join it also (that's why people say gen 3 is strongest) they put a big moment that if they can they also bealive everyone is can doit too.. when gura touch first talent who touch 4m marine bcome the first JP who touch 2m, everyone just follow the lead with their own power of course.. i think thats because cover corp not that toxic place, they help eachother that makes everyone still stay and support each other's :')

@Koronesuki1313

Жыл бұрын

With the exception of Sora, gen0 really didn't have an effect until after gen2. And don't forget about Gamers who came before gen3. The emergence of Korone especially, was significant to Holo as her playing western games made her the first JP member to reach 1M subs on KZread.

@raisofahri5797

Жыл бұрын

​​@@Koronesuki1313ecause most gen 0 not debuted nor join hololive, gen 0 at that time is not exist

@exceedgod

Жыл бұрын

​@@Koronesuki1313 But the turning point is that Gen 3 has not changed, it comes from Gen 3. That is considered the turning point of the 5 people to be the strongest Jane.

I don’t know their voices enough to tell who’s the red text lol.

@k.s.7589

Жыл бұрын

Aki rose rhe one on the minecraft screen

And then theirs Gura, sitting alone at the top with almost double the subscribers of everyone else, going off what fuvuki is saying that has to be stressful

I think Coco left Hololive because of this competitive environment with numbers

@ksx612

2 ай бұрын

Coco left selflessly taking the bullet. tho its true that allholomen are competing for the million mark.

Meanwhile....Gura: Err, Stinky?

Huh, I wonder why EN felt like deviating from such a successful strategy of releasing new gens at a regular pace. Just thought it'd be better to leave the girls floundering at 10 members so we have days with 0 or 1 stream?

@e-madart9420

Жыл бұрын

I don't think it's about a strategy or anything, they're just way more serious when picking new members, I'm pretty sure a new gen hasn't come out yet because they haven't found the right people for it

@Cosmoman78

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they just haven't really found a suitable person for New Gens yet. Cover is pretty selective with their Talents, unlike some rainbow Company releasing Talents like gacha.

@Yanasmiko

Жыл бұрын

Isn't EN opening audition right now? I think at the end of this year, they will make a debut.

@TheJeyR

Жыл бұрын

@@Cosmoman78 Cover is very selective but it shows, apart from shit that happened when Cover was just starting I dont feel Cover has hired someone that I would consider a mistake, all of them have incorporated into the company culture that Cover wants nicely, some may try to push boundaries more than others but all of them have done so in a way that still fits within the leniency that Cover provides to their talents. By hiring people they can trust, Cover can be very lenient with them, which in turn allows the talents to feel some breathing room and that helps with creativity and making the viewers feel comfortable as well

@nuxxism

Жыл бұрын

Covid played a part in delaying a lot of things, but EN is a fundamentally different beast to JP. Cover doesn't just get streamers. It wants talents so that the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts. Just look at Aki's lives recently - she drove those and it raises the profile of Hololive above just what Aki streaming on her own does. Finding those talents is hard enough, but finding people talented enough that can integrate into Hololive is even harder, especially if they are geographically isolated from both their fellow members and the support staff.

Fubu cope