Shadow not only received his first win in Death Battle, but he also ended the Sonic lost streak as well.

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@user-gj3fb7pq1w

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon I used to be an ice elemental like you, until I change my identity and now I have power of darkness

@breerubb

3 жыл бұрын

Who the heck are you dude you a hacker or something?

@nokina3

3 жыл бұрын

and end the sayonara death trend lol 😆

Vegeta: Sayonara! (Vaporize Shadow) Mewtwo: Sayonara! (Impale Shadow with a Spoon) Ryuko: Sayonara, Dipsh*t!! (Try to cut Shadow in Half) Shadow( Pulls out Uno Reverse Card): No!! Not this time!! Ryuko (Surprised Pikachu Face): Nani?!

@FireFoxGaming_

3 жыл бұрын

IKR!?!?!?

@nokina3

3 жыл бұрын

Vegeta: Why did you have to said dipshit Like come on 😡 Mewtwo: enjoy bulling on the poor hedgehog fun while it lasted >_> Ryuko: sad 😔

@Godzillafanproductions

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@jaykazi9548

3 жыл бұрын

If shadow did a rematch against vegata and mewtwo, he would totally rip them apart cuz the rings are keeping him back

@kilato9649

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaykazi9548 keep telling yourself that buddy😐

Finally Shadow has won a Death Battle, but at the cost of killing his favorite anime character.

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

I like to think they are clones

@JoshioE110

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon oh right no cost. Hooray!!

@alvaroperez2349

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoshioE110 TFS reference, I love it!

@jaykazi9548

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon shadow is a simp, plus ryuko is shadow's waifu, and i know characters outside the things you watch that are also weebs or simps

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaykazi9548 Well it shows character, better then a character who hates everyone and everything.

Shadow: I'm the coolest. Damn right! Some say it's a pity win but I say it's well earned.

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

He needed this win

@kylefernandez1917

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon Well Shadow earned it

@xavierfinn8075

2 жыл бұрын

I guess Im kinda off topic but does anybody know a good site to watch new tv shows online?

@eliedwin4106

2 жыл бұрын

@Xavier Finn Flixportal :P

@xavierfinn8075

2 жыл бұрын

@Eli Edwin thanks, I signed up and it seems to work :) I appreciate it!

To answer the question about Shadow’s VA: No, that’s not Taka. They wanted to go the more modern route this time, so Brenden Blaber, AKA JelloApocalypse, who previously voiced Jon Talbain, is the voice this time.

I can just imagine Shadow on the couch with some chips watching some Kill La Kill.

@Godzillafanproductions

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

* *Shadow takes out gun* * Frost: No >:[ Shadow: Ugh, fine * *throws gun away* * lol

@booksmartthealicorn3219

3 жыл бұрын

Shadow was like: *Guns are so 2005!* XD "

@freezeblazestar1079

2 жыл бұрын

i agree with frost. shadow have gun is dumb

The Sonic series's greatest comeback Of All Time. Really happy Shadow pulled through and snagged himself a win.

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

I had the voice actor of Caulifla and Ryuko wrong, they sounds somewhat similar and the fact someone lied to me. Thank you Marvel Fantasy for the correction

I’ve waited 10 years for them to show Shadow at his best and I’m not disappointed, that was freaking awesome. I agree with you Frost, Shadow is honestly one of my favourite fictional characters ever. I wish they’d give us a game focusing more on shadows chaos powers over copying sonics gameplay tbh. Also, Shadow the Hedgehog is a guilty pleasure game to me. Yes it’s ridiculous and the story is just SA2 but worse, but I did enjoy it despite its (numerous) flaws.

30:15 Ryuko... you’re not one to talk.

I am also glad shadow got his weapons for the fight since the previous 2 fights ignored that key element to the character

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t like him using a gun, but I approve with the sword

@StormGardenHedgefleet

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon even still at least im glad they included the weapons considering shadow the hedgehog game is apart of the character's lore it did put a smile on my face ^^

@freezeblazestar1079

2 жыл бұрын

@@StormGardenHedgefleet you do know shadow game is bad right

Finally, Shadow has won for once. :) Glad that you're satisfied as well. :)

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@KubatheChangeling

3 жыл бұрын

​@@FrostTheHobidon Yep. :)

Well, At least the Sonic lost streak is now stopped... for now. XD

@alvaroperez2349

3 жыл бұрын

Dr.Eggman: lost Metal Sonic: lost Shadow 1st: lost Shadow 2nd: lost Shadow 3rd: win Amy: win Knuckles: lost Sonic 1st: won Sonic 2nd: lost Sonic 3rd: lost Tails: win

@darksonicyt5430

3 жыл бұрын

@@alvaroperez2349 Metal Sonic also technically won in Eggman vs Wily

I cried of happiness when shadow won I was SUPER nervous (pun intended)😂

you know what they say third time’s a charm

They had Comic Book Guy's wife as Ryuko's voice in this episode. Also, I gotta hand it to Ryuko's OG English voice actress Erica Mendez; Ryuko may have been her first breakthrough role that was soon followed by her roles as Rainbow Dash and Pac-Man, she went to voicing VERY unexpected roles that sound nothing alike with Ryuko, Pac-Man or Rainbow Dash. Those being Orie Valadier, Raphtalia, Megumin, Atsuko Kagari, Gon Freecss, Melissa Shield, Annie and Diane.

Finally a win for shadow

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

About time indeed

Frost: YESSS!! HAH HAH HAH HAH HAAAH! I LOVE THAT! David Humphrey is the best! Me: HA! I love it! Not only is that a satisfying reference to my personal favorite Sonic game, but even you recognize it! Sweet!

Once I saw a shadow won that one, I blared out my headset by playing all hail Shadow at maximum volume

Sonic Forces definitely did a better job of making Shadow less like an edge lord that hates everyone and more like a hero due to him saving Sonic and helping defeat Infinite

@Rippen_Crippen

3 жыл бұрын

Also he was playable in Sonic Forces too so your complaint about him not being playable is kinda false

@darksonicyt5430

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rippen_Crippen Even though in forces he is just a sonic reskin.

@freezeblazestar1079

2 жыл бұрын

i hate edgelord version i like hero sa2 shadow version better

Very happy for shadow

Third time’s the charm.

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed it is XD

@reggielacey2235

3 жыл бұрын

Shouldn't have lost the first 2

@booksmartthealicorn3219

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon That and wisdom of experience and innate tenacity from his two losses to help win the battle! XD ;D

Heya dude, great video, that's a win for Shadow!

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

All I have to say is finally Death Battle XD

7:03 I was surprised when I see shadow's likes in the sonic wiki, and finding out that he likes nothing, I also find shadow misunderstood too. And I kinda accept shadow the hedgehog being on the good guys side, I think he earned his redemption. and I did not know shadow uses guns i thought this was a kids game.

29:40 Actually, it seems like JelloApocalypse is Shadow's voice this time.

If Shadow had his own Spin-off TV series, I feel it should take influence from Batman Beyond, with Shadow's personality and character being similar to Terry McGinnis.

I'm glad they actually gave sonic characters a win after the asspull that was mario vs sonic 2 and shadow vs mewtwo but they still downplayed him by not acknowledging solorus who was a multi universal threat. Shadow didn't even need to go super

Yeah buddy character inconsistency is a true issue to most franchises including Sonic like you said and Especially shadow... Get it right 1 time and get it wrong another, I feel those companies need to stop that bad habit whenever it happens

Frost the White Lion, I don't honestly know what's going on with Shadow in IDW, but the Shadow I know in the games is an edgy antihero who does what he wants, but underneath that tough persona, he's got a good heart and cares for others and does help people when they need his help.

To answer your question about why Shadow would work with the people who ruined his life, during the true ending of Shadow the Hedgehog, after seeing that Gerald was trying to save the planet from the Black Arms, the President and Commander of G.U.N. decided to work towards a brighter future in honor of the doctor, and the Commander wished to make amends with Shadow. Honestly, I think it's kind of admirable that Shadow decided to join, kind of like he forgave and forgot. (no pun intended)

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Okay then, if Sega explain that Properly I would ok with it.

Shoot. That rant on Shadow was longer than the DEATH BATTLE! itself. 😆 Here's how I see it: Gerald made this for his granddaughter, right? Girls usually find lizards gross. Hedgehogs are cute. That's why he changed it. 😁 I honestly think the outfit wouldn't be so... revealing... if Ryuko didn't slice up Senketsu a bit with the scissors blade when they first met. 😆 I will admit, I thought Ryuko was gonna win through power alone, but I forgot that Shadow's speed was more than enough to damage her faster than she can heal. I am glad Shadow got the win, though a little bittersweet for me as I also enjoyed the Kill La Kill series.

so, was shadow portrayed accurately in this episode? or has death battle turned shadow into his edgier counterpart from shadow the hedgehog (when you ignore his character development in this game) and sonic boom?

Interesting reaction. Just out of curiosity, why did Shadow use his super form when he did?

I think the reason they used Sonic X is because it's a series that can be tied to the games. A few of the events in Sonic X also happened in Sonic Adventure 1 and 2. So it makes sense to use the show since they're closely tied.

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

That too, I see what you mean

@freezeblazestar1079

2 жыл бұрын

they do know sonic x is not canon to games right?

@TheKaizoMario

2 жыл бұрын

@@freezeblazestar1079 There are very few things that contrast the show from the games. It's not like the Fleetway Comics where every arc reps the game but is totally different from it.

To be fair to the Edgy the Hedgy video game, there were moments in that game that captured Shadow's personality really well, especially considering his amnesia from Heroes. The game took it self comically seriously, but Shadow was pretty spot on, save for a few moments where he acts extremely self-centred. Like, him being confronted by the G.U.N Commander aboard the ARK. That scene is really touching. Shadow is fully willing to submit himself to punishment if what The Commander said turned out to be true, he just wants to regain his memories before that. The CoMpUtEr rOoM ending is also really sad, Vector's voice acting notwithstanding. He comes to the conclusion that everything that happened to the ARK personnel, Maria and the current invasion was his fault, and he feels genuine regret for being born.

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

I agree but also disagree. It’s mostly due to Sega’s writing trying to be Darker, Serious, and realistic on a Cartoon Video Game. Having Shadow abandon what made him a hero and because cold, heartless, and uncaring towards everyone. Trying to make him a Vegeta clone from the Cell Sega. Even if Shadow is Winning knows how to handle the situation, he still acts angry. I just miss him being more heroic and having a fun dark Hero personality who is not afraid to smile or crack a joke when he is winning like he was in SA2 and Heroes.

@captainjacksparrowthehedge8186

Жыл бұрын

Not really. The only story in Shadow The Hedgehog that got Shadow's character right was maybe the hero story. Sonic 06 got his character ark better which says a lot

Went on a bit of a tangent there, buddy. I get it though. Heh. I wouldn’t be happy if a character I liked was done dirty either.

@booksmartthealicorn3219

3 жыл бұрын

*I wouldn't blame Frost the White Lion though!,**#NintendoAngel247**! I would go in a righteous fury too if people made injudtic of any kind on my beloved favorite positive archetypal heroes/heroes like that! 😅😇🥰I can respect that!* ^-^

1:58 Infinite might be close enough to usurping him on that though...😅 4:55 Um...Yuji Naka?... 5:33 Vic who voiced Edward Elric? 7:18 That sort of changed at the end of Sonic Adventure 2 8:13 Well...that flies in the face of HEROES!!!😒 11:21 Rush came BEFORE 06 so that should be a CLEAR thing of proof! Also how much has the Chaotix been in?🤔 13:13 And Mario gets a big ridiculous at times 16:11 Wait seriously?! 21:45 Anyone want to argue about who is WORSE?!😕...28:31 HAAAHAHAAHAHAH THAT WAS WELL TIMED 🤣! Also I can kind of hear the voice as well 30:30 Or you can say he is LETTING IT RIP!!!🤣 32:01 Well you and him have Fur on so I guess it does not really matter, unless you do that one thing Brian did in Family Guy...

Good one

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

I agree with shadows shoes but I also think they also help with manuverability when shadow moves fast

@FrostTheHobidon

2 жыл бұрын

Right

In my opinion, this episode is a hundred times better than Shadow vs Mewtwo, however...it suffers the same problem as Mario vs Sonic 2018, basically ignoring crucial information from games such as Sonic Generations and Sonic forces, like Sonic getting more powerful every second, or that in Generations Shadow's character Bio states that Shadow's as fast as Sonic, another problem I had was Ryuko's personality in the fight, Ryuko acts pretty much like how she started in the series, even though she has all powers and skills at the end of the series, so her acting all aggressive towards Sengetsu is just odd, Shadow's personality in the fight is fine, but I rather the Shadow's personality from Shadow vs Vegeta, better than how he acted Shadow vs Mewtwo, been an total edge lord, also I feel this fight should had been slightly faster, like Shadow vs Vegeta when it comes of how fast the characters moves. For what it is, its fine, but I watch this episode everyday over Shadow vs Mewtwo.

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Noted

@dominicwilliams7447

Жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon first of all big fan of your death battle reviews everything about this video I agree have you seen the latest fan comic where Sonic Shadow and silver are brothers and this isn't the first time they're either royalty or gods and I'm not joking

@FrostTheHobidon

Жыл бұрын

@@dominicwilliams7447 I think I remember

@gimmefriespls

Жыл бұрын

Hey Frost who would win? shadow the hedgehog or reaper from overwatch?

I’m glad that Shadow won his battle, and I agree with the rant you went with about Shadow, but I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t need a gun since he’s got chaos energy within himself and practically can do better with a sword if necessary

This was a long one, might be because of what I had to say about Shadow.

@Whatifrequests

3 жыл бұрын

There’s nothing wrong with guns it’s the American way dammit 😂🤣😂

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

@@Whatifrequests true that

@Whatifrequests

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon Anyway how are you my old friend

@booksmartthealicorn3219

3 жыл бұрын

@@Whatifrequests Tell that to my favorite benevolent intelligent bright-eyed winsome web-slinging friendly neighborhood blue collar Marvel superhero and superhuman Peter Parker aka Spider-Man!

@Whatifrequests

3 жыл бұрын

@@booksmartthealicorn3219He’s a disgrace to spiders and Americans everywhere 😂🤣😂Punisher is a true American To be honest only antiheroes could be American No offence Oh and I forgotten to mention venom is more of a spider

I know the Sonic series has had its ups and downs but I can’t help but love them anyway. No matter how SEGA changes their characters, I still see the same awesome characters that I’ve grown to love like Knuckles and Shadow. Anyways awesome reaction, I loved this Death Battle!

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Good to hear

Hey Frost! Who will win? Shadow the hedgehog or reaper from overwatch?

Also sonic 06 actually is canon as generations references it multiple times from chaos city to blaze remembering the event's. Yeah it was erased sorta but it doesn't erase it from the timeline

@freezeblazestar1079

2 жыл бұрын

06 not canon. rivals was

@reggielacey2235

2 жыл бұрын

@@freezeblazestar1079 06 is canon dude Just because the events were erased doesn't mean they didn't happen. Also its confirmed that Sonic along with other characters( like blaze)can remember events from 06. Also it was referenced in generations.

@freezeblazestar1079

2 жыл бұрын

@@reggielacey2235 don lie me man we know not true and puls blaze form sol dimension not future

Ryuko also has the same Japanese VA as Yang Xiao Long, Kallen and Anemone

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Oh cool

huh. why didn't they use his Lancelot sword from Black Knight? was the purple one just easier to animate?

@wolfhurricane897

2 ай бұрын

No. Because the Lancelot sword belonged to Lancelot who just looked like Shadow. The Shadow we know used the purple sword in his own game and in the comics.

In 4:57 of the video, you mentioned the voice actor Sean Schimmel. I did not know how bad of a person he was.

How did it feel to finally having a sonic character win? (Also wow I never would have thought you would get this heated at sega rightfully so but I never expected that with your “sonic motif”)

Lex Luthor vs Doctor Doom. i'm gonna go with Doctor Doom because, like with the Iron Man fight, most of Lex's attacks and moves are specifically made to take down Superman, and last i checked, Doom isn't Kryptonian. unless there's something in the comics i'm not familiar with since i don't read them, or if they use the Anti-Life Equation he had for a few seconds in Unlimited, then i'll be amazed he wins.

Depends on the Shadow. If its the Post-2010 shadow then people can call him whatever. However if its the Pre-2010 Shadow like from Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes, and Sonic The Hedgehog(2006) then he is a hero. Also This is something that happened to All Sonic characters not just shadow. After 2010 All the sonic characters got worse. It was revealed that the writes for Sonic colors and Onward knew nothing about sonic except from a few Wikipedia pages. The PJshow did excellent Analysis on them. Recently Silver

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed Sonic '06 did justice to Shadow's character

It took 8 seasons, but Shadow FINALLY scores a Death Battle victory. And regarding Luthor VS Doom Death Battle, I'm gonna have to solidly go with Doom cause he's dealt with FAR deadlier threats than Luthor. Doom's even beaten Galactus. Y'know, the guy who LITERALLY eats planets for BREAKFAST?

@anonymouscontributor1520

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I feel like Doom is going to have an easier time against Lex than he did against Vader

@zacharyfrierson6972

2 жыл бұрын

@@anonymouscontributor1520 Yeah, when that one first came out, I was rooting and betting on Vader, but only cause I didn't know just how powerful Doom truly was cause I literally didn't know Doom even existed until the 2015 Fantastic 4 live action movie came out.

I'm just gonna say that I like and agree with Mewtwo VS Shadow, and Shadow is my favorite Sonic character. It just that Shadow has no counter to Mewtwo's haxes. Not to mention since Mewtwo got a buff in Sword and Shield that makes him Multi Solar System and over a thousand times faster then light making him now faster and stronger then Shadow.

@JoshioE110

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have proof that Mewtwo is Multi Solar System?

I’m glad Shadow won, I was rooting for him mainly because he’s one of my favorite Sonic characters. I played Sonic Adventure 2 and watched Super Mario Bros Z and Nazo Unleashed where I was introduced to the character. Also yes, I agree, he is a very misunderstood character and the fact that SEGA and fans judge him based on his look and based off his character on 2005 game and some aspects of his Boom counterpart, just proves they forgotten what makes Shadow great as a character (Gonna to be honest, we fans are just as guilty as SEGA for ruining the characters). Thankfully (if this is true) the people who wrote the characters during the 2010s have likely been fired and hopefully find writers that KNOW the characters (I’ll edit this to let you know if the firing of writers are true).

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Happy to hear

30:09 Did you say the same thing to a cutscene from lego dimensions where knuckles grab shadow's gun and throws it away? 😅😅😅

12:38 to skip ranting and back to reaction

So in a way Shadow is basically a Tragic Antihero so to speak

I just had to subscribe to you right now

9:21 Would you be upset with me if i told you that i really want to play the Shadow the Hedgehog game? I'm just asking.

Erica Mendez is the english voice of Ryuko, Caulfila was voiced by Elizabeth Maxwell.

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks I had a feeling it wasn’t correct, someone lied to me

Here are some fights I made up. Shadow the hedgehog vs tyrian callows. Shadow the hedgehog vs the meta. Shadow the hedgehog vs (overwatch) reaper. Goku vs ragyo kiryuin. Who will win in a fight?

My prediction of next Death Battle is that... Well, Luthor and Doom will continue their personal streaks. Luthor could not beat Iron Man, but Doom gives Avengers constantly hard time.

The only reason why shadow has guns because THE CHAOS POWERS ARE REALLY POWERFUL AND SHADOW NEEDS GUNS FOR WARMING UP HE DOES SHARE THE SAME POWERS WITH SONIC AND HE DOES HAVE SOME MARTIAL ARTS MOVE AND TELEPORTATION + HE LOOKS SO BADASS WITH GUNS ON HIS HANDS

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

To me m, I thing they were trying too hard to make Shadow a Edgy character because one fan wanted Sonic to use a gun but Sega took that idea and gave it to Shadow.

@yasser3268

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon I see how it is but in my opinion. shadow is more like a Badass character or antihero character or agent character

@darksonicyt5430

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon Shadow: CHAOS SPEAR! *gun* Shadow: I said Spear! *Sword* Shadow: Where the hell is my spear!? Sega: sorry, only in super now. take it or leave it. Shadow: You've gotta be kidding me

@freezeblazestar1079

2 жыл бұрын

shadow don need guns he have power

So happy for shadow

Frost: Complaining about how some things don’t make since for shadow. Me: Their only explaining stuff that is supported by SEGA. Including Sonic X as SEGA was involved in its development.

Why does Shadow need a gun? Because it's a badass weapon for a badass character! But the sword is definitely WAAAYYYY more badass of a weapon for Shadow! Maybe I'm just biased towards swords, but eh. Also, before I forget, Shadow finally gets a win! Hell yeah!

@lazwardazure716

3 жыл бұрын

Funny enough it's the Black Arms Sword

@freezeblazestar1079

2 жыл бұрын

shadow with gun dumb. shadow with sword better

@daltonsturgeon4024

2 жыл бұрын

@@freezeblazestar1079 Exactly. And you know what? This is definitely wishful thinking, but I'd love to see Shadow use that sword in a game. How cool would that be?

It's so annoying how now a days some of the Sonic characters get treated so poorly to the point where they're no longer their likable selfs? Well Shadow is one of them, as is one of the reasons he's not in my Top 10 Sonic characters, the developers creators and even some of the fans misunderstood what made Shadow such a cool and likable character. I tend to see Shadow's character as not Vegeta (because I'm not entirely familiar with DBZ, and the annoying comparison in the past decade because of Sega's poor writing decisions), but rather Riku from Kingdom Hearts. Mainly because they both started off as villains in the first game and be reformed in the end to begin their redemption arc of doing good and what's right.

Shadow: I won... but at what cost

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Even though he won, he feels like he lost

@Godzillafanproductions

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon meh pretty much

@wolfhurricane897

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon he won the battle. But lost what he loved most. Kill La Kill.

Takahata didnt do the voice for shadow this time around

ALL HAIL SHADOW!!! HEROES RISE AGAIN!!!!!

You know, Shadow with a sword is pretty cool than him with a gun.

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@booksmartthealicorn3219

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon Although I'm honestly not a fan of Shadow the Hedgehog ,I admit the blade is more versatile ,honorable and better than guns any day in my honest opinion and book! ;D

Now we gotta wait for the battle doom is going to win. Again.

I know people are gonna be salty since the next fight is a stomp in Doom's favor, but I still want to see it happen.

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Dc vs Marvel, Lex lost to Tony Stark and Doom defeated Darth Vader, now let’s see this go down next time XD

@captainvalkyrie999

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon Don't know about speed, but I think Doom has better armor and durability considering he can take hits from Silver Surfer and the Infinity Gauntlet.

@booksmartthealicorn3219

3 жыл бұрын

@@captainvalkyrie999 *That and the Marvel villain Victor von Damm aka Dr.Doom having the advantage of having both knowledge and power of science and magic combined! XD Sorry, Lex Luthor! Looks like Dr.Doom will have a brand new head mantle above the fireplace in his evil Laterivian mansion!* XD ;D

It's kind of weird, the first time I introduced to shadow is in shadow the hedgehog.

Dude 13:00 you just explained my same problem with MattPatt, you can't explain games and cartoons scientifically.

I don't think the black doom dna is a bad idea, I just wished that they execute it better

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

It came out of nowhere and an excuse to make Shadow edgy and darker to abandon his true heroic side from Adventure 2 and Heroes. In Adventure 2 final story and Heroes where he cares about his allies and the world but serious on protecting the world. Ever since Shadow the Hedgehog the game, Fans and Sega themselves use that game as the perfect example of Shadow’s character, to be a heartless, uncaring, edglord who Hates everyone and everything.

@williamsimmons4498

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon yeah I wished that it was foreshadowed in S.A 2 or perhaps heroes, I still think it was a pretty cool idea, I still think it was a good idea but a bad way of executing it, let's start a chain of comments of constructive criticism of all the sonic games, keep all the concepts in but tell me how you would rewrite them to be better

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

@@williamsimmons4498 well in SA2, Shadow was supposed to die there, but fans want him back so badly they demand Shadow to come back, and that's how he was in Heroes. Sega didn't think about making more story for Shadow until 2005

It actually says over 50 (that’s what the > stands for) but yeah he’s more of an ageless being.

What do you like about Shadow's own game?

Why is ghoey don't know how to say it but he is in one of the parts when you fast forward a bit weird

*Before Watching Video:* (gets salt shakers ready for the ungodly amount of salt I’m expecting from this) *After Watching Video:* You did not disappoint XD In all seriousness; you can’t blame Rooster Teeth or Death Battle for misunderstanding Shadow’s backstory, they’re just gathering relevant information on Shadow based on how he’s been treated by SEGA over the years in basically every form of media; so it’s kinda unfair to blame Death Battle for this backstory of him being “edgy” or an “anti-hero” or whatever. They didn’t make Shadow into what he is now, SEGA did.

@booksmartthealicorn3219

3 жыл бұрын

LOL! XD There 's so much salt in that video ,you can turn an entire Lake into an ocean! ;D

@anonymouscontributor1520

3 жыл бұрын

Lol yeah

@booksmartthealicorn3219

3 жыл бұрын

@@anonymouscontributor1520 But on the bright side, thank Heaven Frost purely got it out of his system! Plus Shadow the Hedgehog won! ;D

@anonymouscontributor1520

3 жыл бұрын

@@booksmartthealicorn3219 Indeed and that’s all that really matters!

@booksmartthealicorn3219

3 жыл бұрын

@@anonymouscontributor1520 Exactly! :D I'm purely Looking forward for future DeathBattle videos, #AnonymousContributor! ;D

Can you really blame RoosterTeeth calling Shadow a "edgelord" *with the way SEGA "writes" him?*

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

All the more reason I lost faith in Sega

@Bezaliel13

3 жыл бұрын

But should RT be criticized for it? SEGA: "Let's make Shadow edgy." RoosterTeeth: "Shadow the Edgelord." ​@@FrostTheHobidon : "HE'S NOT AN EDGELORD!" SEGA: "Yes, he is." p.s. While the Biolizard looked slightly like Perfect Chaos' mural, even sounding like it, Black Doom did explain how Gerald leaped from it to Sonic mural looking Shadow and why Gerald was able to make the moon ending cannon before his execution, and he did develop from his spin-off game for '06. Also, if Black Doom could use Chaos Spear in his boss fight, would Chaos Spear had made more sense than a gun? Anyway, it was not their worst retcon. Modern Tails: ."Oh, you're that Sonic from *another dimension.* Modern Sonic: "It's been *generations* since I've seen you!" Boom Knuckles: "It's been 'generations' since you looked in a mirror?" Note: Boom was supposed to be a different continuity, but SEGA failed to understand that and messed up the game,... only to make Classic Sonic a *separate continuity.*

10:54 i still think he is. Also 7:03 I was surprised when I saw what you said in the sonic wiki, they say Shadow hates humanity and they added the terminator franchise in his likes and It made me ask "the terminator franchise exist in the sonic universe?" But at least the shadow the hedgehog game has a pure hero ending. That got shadows character right. So..... sadow the hedgehog vs (overwatch) reaper. Goku vs ragyo kiryuin. Ryuko matoi vs Raven branwen. Shadow the hedgehog vs noob salibot. Who will win?

So, sega was wrong, and tails and Sonic pals got it wrong about shadow that his speed is from his shoes, but no chaos powers is what makes him go fast

@FrostTheHobidon

2 ай бұрын

Sega likes to change the rules a lot.

@scrappy81369

Ай бұрын

​@@FrostTheHobidonyeah true

*I purely honestly didn't know or watched Kill la Kill, **#FrostheWhiteLion** ! I heard Kill la Kill as a reference in Equestria Daily, but I learned about it in Death Battle, I was like in my mind: What the heck?! XD So it's basically like an modern hard-core avant-garde Japanese anime teenageversion of the Witchblade heroine character!* XD *LOL! * 😆☺🤗

I understand that you hate Black Doom as a villain as well as the Black Arms aliens, I respect your Opinion. For me personally Black Doom does have potential to be a good character. The problem was his character development, it's so messy in Shadow The Hedgehog thanks to the horrendous morality system. The Story and his character development is dependent on what actions you take ie beating the Neutral missions to take the Neutral path, beating the Hero missions to take the Hero route or finally, beating the Dark missions to take the Dark route in Shadow The Hedgehog. That's why his character development is a mess. Don't get me wrong I still have a guilty pleasure and soft spot for the Shadow The Hedgehog video game, but even I'll admit the story is a complete mess thanks to the morality system. And all that doesn't matter anyways because there's a Last Story which explains the true cannon plot and ending to you via exposition. Oh and to unlock the last story you have to complete all 10 "Non" canon endings which means you have to go through each playthrough starting from Westopolis 10 times to unlock 10 of the possibiIe "Non" cannon endings. I say non with a capital letter and quotation mark because again those endings don't matter because the last story explains the true cannon ending to you.

Shadow:I won, but at what cost? ;-; Good one, Frost^^

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I like to think that Ryuko and Shadow sign up to have clones of themselves fight to the death, that explains why they keep being responding.

@DjZeroGalactica

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon True tho

@booksmartthealicorn3219

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon *Interesting and cool fan theory,**#FrostTheWhiteLion**! :D But here's my theory: I purely believe the contestants of Death Battle, both heroes/heroinesand rogues alike are using a special Dimensional Dream Simulator for their battlez,ala highly advanced Star Trek :Voyager tech!* ;D

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

@@booksmartthealicorn3219 nice

@booksmartthealicorn3219

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon*Daww, thank you very kindly,Frost! ; I'm a Brony and androgynous straight Aspie male goody two shoes nerd as well as a Star Trek fan, and a Marvel and Disney fan too!* ^-^

Why would Shadow ride a motorcycle? He wasn't in a hurry.

@booksmartthealicorn3219

3 жыл бұрын

*I don't know! LOL! Maybe! Maybe Shadow was in a hurry to meet with Rouge the She Bat and Omega the robot! 😆🤗 Use your imagination!* ;D

30:10 “NOOOOO!!”

You know, there are characters who are godly powerful that use guns, like Dante or Ren Amamiya (Joker).

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the Universe they live in, Dante got supernatural type of Gun, he’s a dark hero like Shadow, but know how to have fun, and that what I like about Dante having a dark story with demons, death, gore, and a lot of curse words it fits. Ren using a gun due to its settings oh it’s universes. Not try putting that in a Sonic world, where it starts off as Cartoon world fighting Robots, Blue Hedgehog that runs faster the the speed of sound fight a Fat man who is inspired be Teddy Roosevelt trapping animals into robots. They change the Sonic universe into something Darker and realistic just because of Shadow’s appearance. As for the gun thing, I never liked it because Shadow was powerful enough he doesn’t need a gun, they gave him one because a fan request it and they added Heath bars on enemies to slow you down. But I digress

*Pretty sure a lethal Laterivian dictator/iconic Marvel supervillain like Victor von Damm aka Dr.Doom is definitely gonna win against a big bad bald billionaire /DC supervillain like Lex Luther born in The Suicide Slum ,aka : "Metropolis 's Piece of Gotham City" ,**#FrosttheWhiteLion**!* XD ;D

Shadow doesn’t have a mommy ryuko that was mean

Ryuko matoi vs Darth maul. Ryuko matoi vs raven branwen. Ryuko matoi vs cinder fall. Shadow the hedgehog vs (overwatch) reaper. Goku vs ragyo kiryuin. Who will win?

I’m glad Shadow won for once. This didn’t feel like a disrespect to the character. Still better then his fight with Mewtwo.

*Well,**#FrosttheWhiteLion**, looks you owe one hard-core Hedgehog hero/rogue an apology for (almost) doubting his win against Ryuko!* XD. ;D

@FrostTheHobidon

3 жыл бұрын

Nice work

@booksmartthealicorn3219

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrostTheHobidon *Thank you very much, Frost! :D Bless your beautiful heart!* *Looking forward to see your reactions in future Death Battle videos!*;D

Why use a gun when you can move faster than bullets?

Who will win? Ryuko matoi or Raven branwen?

So shadow fights a discount scissor man (clock tower)

I did like the branching paths for Shadow the Hedgehog but it was definitely flawed.