From a Yamaha XT 660 Z Tenere to a Honda CRF300L

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I'm shedding a little light on why I switched from the Yamaha XT 660 Z Tenere to the Honda CRF300L. If you have any questions about either bike, please leave them in the comments.
Any modifications I did to the Honda CRF300L will be covered in future videos.
Sidenote: This is my first video shot on the Sony ZV-E10. I know I went out of focus a few times, but I am still learning how to work with this this camera. Bear with me for now as I try to get better at using it :D
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0:00 Introduction
0:33 Background info
1:20 Tenere 660 irritations
5:07 The big difference in engine size
7:18 Tenere vs CRF300L in offroad use
8:57 Concluding

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  • @requiemglassworks9254
    @requiemglassworks92548 ай бұрын

    The CRF300L maintenance intervals are in thousands of miles. The KTM maintenance is measured in hours. Reliability is worlds apart. I would take a CRF300L over any bike that KTM, Husky, or Beta make, purely because I like to ride the bike, not work on it.

  • @ogasi1798

    @ogasi1798

    8 ай бұрын

    takes 15 mins to do an oil change - take a 500 exc as example though, easy to do 50 hours oil changes for most people, 15 mins every 50 hours isn't a lot and if you do it more often then great, it helps you be at one with the bike anyway, and each time you do maintenance you are looking at other things which is surely a positive 🙂 - they will keep going forever if you look after them, the book service times are based on racers - 99% out there don't come close to being a racer, i race MX and i ride my 500 exc very different to my sxf450 - the 450 gets oil much sooner due to the way it is ridden, a 500 exc doesn't get treated like a race bike by anyone in reality, i know about 12 exc 500 owners, all are fast guys and all barely take the 500 over 30% throttle, it is powered by torque figures - not rpm.

  • @babar69110

    @babar69110

    7 ай бұрын

    ​​​@@ogasi1798agree, ride a beta 390, even with separate oil of engine and gearbox, change takes less than ten minutes... we are now a lot to get hundreds and hundreds engine hours in our 390/430/500 betas. Sometimes chain care and tension takes more time 😂 but at the moment a topic speaks about wind protection by rally screen, vibrations, etc, let s say that the fun we have is 1000 times better than the less comfort . Comfort? Buy a car 😅 I rather prefer to ride a bike which gives pure pleasure in the 10% most difficult places, and suffer more in the easier usual 80%. Guy has an honest talk, this bike suits him ! But he pointed the mist important factor that just a few mention, the importance of gravity center, not is all about weight, especially when bike decides to take a rest on ground 😂

  • @ogasi1798

    @ogasi1798

    7 ай бұрын

    @@babar69110 agreed, as for this screen stuff, meh, I was out today and it was windy as hell, no bike was protecting me from the wind , certainly no aftermarket add on screen lol.

  • @ChristophLeitl

    @ChristophLeitl

    7 ай бұрын

    Just back from the second 14-day 4000km Morocco trip on my 690 Enduro. No breakdowns. Would surely miss that oompf on the CRF300L, my engine is reliable as hell, and in addition it has a lot of power. The weight is 152kg that's nearly the same as the CRF300L.

  • @requiemglassworks9254

    @requiemglassworks9254

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ChristophLeitl and how much did it cost you in comparison?

  • @pawelwolski1316
    @pawelwolski13168 ай бұрын

    This all make sense. Last May my friend and I spent a week in Morocco on two rented 660 Teneres. On side roads or going up the mountain passes, the bike was fun. But then we spent 2 days and 350 km in the desert and way too many times the fun stopped and the struggle and suffering started. This was especially true in sand and loose gravel. Too heavy and like you say, it's top heavy. Even very savable, slow tip overs could not be prevented once the bike started to fall it was game over. Then the ritual of waiting for my friend to help lift the beast up or me helping him. At these moments, I was dreaming of my Rally 300.

  • @latituderider
    @latituderider3 ай бұрын

    I've both a T7 and a 300 Rally, same model year, owned 1 and 3 years respectively. I actually like my little Rally far more than the T7, which surprised me but made sense for much of the same reason. I just don't find the bigger T7 fun to ride when things get tough. The Rally, while definitely down on power, is much easier to manage. I'm looking to part ways with my T7 and put some of that money towards power upgrades since suspension is already done. It's a shame because I really do like the T7. Wish I could keep it while still riding it to generate an income.

  • @terrarecon
    @terrarecon7 ай бұрын

    I don't think people really understand that often when it comes to ADV bikes, less is more. For the average rider (which is 90% of almost everyone) you can go harder off-road on a Honda CRF300L/Rally than you could on a Yamaha Tenere' (660 or 700), KTM 690/790/890, the list goes on, and in many cases leave all of them in the dust (off-road). The effort and cost to maintain a Honda CRF300L blows everything else out of the water. You can ride versus spending time doing maintenance wrenching. Bigger and more, is not always better. Finesse is an often overlooked trait when selecting a bike.

  • @KBHLION
    @KBHLION8 ай бұрын

    Yea, I found this to be the most honest best review I have found. I also went from from a 650gs to the 300L and just find it more capable in many ways!

  • @kal-px7qd
    @kal-px7qd7 ай бұрын

    I’m a believer in getting the lightest bike the most comfortable that you feel, how can you have fun on a massive bike when you get into situations. If I’m touring I like going to small streets and lanes and discover a place so much nicer with a light bike. Totally makes sense

  • @johnpagejr.7628
    @johnpagejr.76288 ай бұрын

    I down sized to the CRF300L Rally and have no regrets. I live in the United State and have taken two 800 mile trips on it loaded down with camping gear and have had no problems with the bike. I have put a new shock on it and stiffer spring in the front fork as well as the usual rear rack, skid plate, engine guards, and bark buster hand guards. It is a little on the tall side so I also put a seat concepts low seat on it. It cruises along at 60 to70 miles per hour (100 to 110 KL.) with no problem and is very nice handling off road.

  • @hristos0
    @hristos08 ай бұрын

    very nice explanation. Loved it. I can't wait to see a video about what mods have you done on your new bike. It looks amazing

  • @krazyklaas1531
    @krazyklaas15318 ай бұрын

    Your honesty graces you. You are quite right. I myself have just sold my Africa Twin 1100 and am going to buy a Honda X500. Also because it is smaller and so will fit in my camper van. The x500 also feels more familiar to me and will definitely go more off road with it, in my new life where I will live in the campervan. Have sold my house and therefore can afford more, in the late summer of my life...Good video my brother.

  • @MaramuresDualSport
    @MaramuresDualSport8 ай бұрын

    i've also ridden the XT660Z Tenere for about 60.000km in 5 years and done a lot of offroad with it, but also lots of long 2up trips. You're right about the missing 6th gear and about the weight distribution and it being a high central of gravity machine...it was hard to do U turns with it loaded up and with a pillion in the back. Even after 5 years of riding it, i never felt comfortable doing some maneuvers with it. Migrated to a 2016 Africa Twin and i just love it. It's my second season with it, but first time i rode it before buying it, i felt like i had it since ever...just perfect. Have fun on the VRF300L bro! Great bike for what it was meant to do! Cheers from Romania!

  • @Kaloyan1337

    @Kaloyan1337

    8 ай бұрын

    Strange, I have the Xt660r model and it purrs like a kitten at 100-110 km/h. Maybe the weight matters, mine weights around 165 kg with a Dominator exhaust. In fact, the 5th gear feels like an overdrive, I use it only on highway riding. All of the gears seem really long. Edit: Just noticed I have a 16 teeth front sprocket. One extra.

  • @chrishart8548

    @chrishart8548

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@Kaloyan1337 the R is a lot lighter than the Z I believe the xt660z is 189kg dry so probably at least 213kg wet probably more with all that fuel capacity. The 660r is like a duel sport the 660z is as heavy as a twin cylinder bike

  • @folkersfrans8876
    @folkersfrans88767 ай бұрын

    I had the same experience,some years ago I sold my Africa Twin because it became to heavy for me to lift it on my own so I bought a 660Z ( old model with the blue tank ) in the UK and drove it back to Portugal where I live. I found it a great bike for traveling long distances on secondary roads over speeds of say 60/70 kms per hour but going slower particularly off road I always felt that I was in the wrong gear, also I didn’t trust it going off road so sold it right a way for a good price because they are very popular here. Then I bought the CRF250L what was unbelievable easy to handle off-road but definitely lacked some power so I chipped it and that sort of solved that,unfortunately the 300 L only came out later but anyhow I had a lot of fun with it.

  • @jthelakes147
    @jthelakes1478 ай бұрын

    I've had a Honda 250L, 250Rally and now a 300 Rally, Your comments are very true. For the average rider the bike inspires confidence off road and is a cost effective way of getting into adventure bike riding. The main extra cost is upgrading the suspension front and back but well worth it. My Rally has been to the Pyrenees from England 3 times and I wouldn't choose anything different.

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    It does! With which suspension did you end up?

  • @jthelakes147

    @jthelakes147

    8 ай бұрын

    I went with K-tech in the Uk as I had an installer locally. But I have an irritating rattling noise going downhill still, which they cannot fix. My freind put the Rally Raid on his L and I regret not choosing it. @@motocamel

  • @btta88
    @btta888 ай бұрын

    Looking forward to seeing your next video about the mods you did on the crf300L

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    That’s coming for sure.

  • @enduromotorradtouren
    @enduromotorradtouren7 ай бұрын

    Confidence, that's the right word. On my Transalp 600 or Beta Alp 200 I never miss horsepower in tricky terrain, only a better chassis. Let's wait and see what surprises EICMA Milan tomorrow brings for us. A CRF 350 L? No, it seems. Although they have had the cylinder head (Honda Forza and SH 350 scooter) in production for the last two years: much more thrust and a real 8 km/h faster. Enjoy the sandy tracks in the Netherlands, we have more gravel in Bavaria. Günter/Nürnberg

  • @khalida6281
    @khalida62818 ай бұрын

    Gefeliciteerd met je nieuwe motorfiets broeder! Ik geniet ieder keer weer van je vlogs, ga zo door!

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @pigmeal2224
    @pigmeal22248 ай бұрын

    A polished vid ... well done 👌👏. Returning to off road after a 25 year break. Started back with CRF230L, then 250L, and since February a new 300L. At first we didn't feel the 300 was that much of an upgrade from the 250, indeed we thought 250 felt more solidly built. But as months go by and we become nore familiar with 300's capabilities it is amazing us more. It is far and away a better platform in rough country where it's weight advantage, and slightly better gearing really shines. In that environment we cannot fault it, despite stock suspension and engine components. Great economy to, and we really like the dash and LED light gear. The only downside is it's fidgety on the tarmac at speed, and does not inspire confidence in that environment. We recently couldn't resist a tidy 2017 DR650. Of course it's weight and torque makes it a far superior light tourer on pavement. But the 300 runs rings around even this evergreen stalwart when the going gets tough!!

  • @MidCoastAdventures
    @MidCoastAdventures8 ай бұрын

    I did the same thing - from a DR650 to Honda 300 Rally. Bit of a shock power-wise, but great ADV machines 😎👍

  • @diogosaraiva5230
    @diogosaraiva52308 ай бұрын

    I have a xtz 660 tenere from 1997 and got a crf 300l a few months ago. The CRF is much lighter and as you said and we get much more confidence off road. I'm loving it! It is a great light capable machine!

  • @tractorfactor660
    @tractorfactor6608 ай бұрын

    Very common mistake is to start offroad riding on too big bike. I had XT660z too as my first adventure bike. I had it only one season, as I quickly realised that I suck badly at offroad riding and the Tenere was totally wrong bike to learn riding skills. I ended up being scared when I saw mud or wet grass or sand because I fell down dozen times on one weekend course. Tenere is heavy and you can’t stop it when it starts falling. And indeed getting it up without help can be a big problem. It’s good bike if you don’t go into too difficult terrain with it. I have CRF250L and it is surprisingly good. I can manage the little CRF much better in the woods, it’s not scary at all. I’m old enough to have gotten my head around the horsepower and cc’s. Few years ago I was thinking too that less than 650cc is too small, couldn’t guess that I’d buying 250cc bike later😅. Ok it could have few extra ponies but then again, the bike can do more than my skillset allows.

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Couldn't have said it better. If you don't have the skills, big bikes are going to scare you riding offroad. Leave the pride aside and settle for a small cc light bike and you will enjoy the adventure so much more.

  • @pro_grapist

    @pro_grapist

    8 ай бұрын

    Same here, i rode an xt660z for 2 seasons as a first bike and i was often miserable, sand was scary as hell, I would tense up and slow down too much upon seeing it and that would cause me to eventually fall which in turn would knock my confidence further down, an endless cycle 😅 For this season I was thinking about getting a CRF300L or a KTM 690/Husq 701 but actually ended up getting a proper 250f dirt bike and oh my god how it changed everything. I now ride faster, more aggressive and I actually enjoy riding sand. A good example to illustrate the change is this steep, sandy, rutted hill climb that me and my mates on similar heavy bikes have visited numerous times in the past, none of us dared to even attempt climbing it, we would just look at it with fear and ride away lol. This year I just ripped up that hill at first attempt without any fear or problems and my mate, who also finally dared to attempt it after seeing me get to the top with ease, fell off his F800GS not even half way up 😆

  • @tractorfactor660

    @tractorfactor660

    8 ай бұрын

    @@pro_grapist Exactly. It's so much more fun when you don't have to fear about dropping the bike constantly. You just get a boost of confidence when too heavy bike is not limiting the fooling around in the woods 😆

  • @pepega2269
    @pepega22698 ай бұрын

    Glad you're making videos again!

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks! More to come!

  • @Cees1984
    @Cees19845 ай бұрын

    Great video 👍, this video got me thinking about the CRF300. Had a KTM350exc , then discoverd TET , put navigation on it went great in NL. But for longer trips i bought a XT660Z tenere, great bike but not as playfull and confidend off-road. Thanks for the video , going to look closer to the Honda 👌

  • @jimpannell2035
    @jimpannell20357 ай бұрын

    An inspiring video Anwar. Your 300L is possibly the best looking 300L I've seen so far. Very nice. I have a G650GS Sertao and am considering a switch to either the 300L or 300 Rally, so your video is very appropriate - thanks.

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    7 ай бұрын

    Many thanks! There are still a few mods I'm waiting for, but the tank and rally tower really make a difference. Years ago I was also considering that BMW, but than chose the Tenere instead.

  • @123edwardzpad
    @123edwardzpad8 ай бұрын

    Everything you say is true. Sometimes less is more. It is confidence inspiring to be able to use every pony the machine has and do it reliably. CRF 450 L would be a nice step up if you wanted something with a little bit more power. I really like the CB 500 X. What a great blessing you have to have been able to experience the rides any your resale. I really do think the smaller displacement motorcycles are where the fun and ease are. Happy trails and travels. Thank you.

  • @joecamel6835

    @joecamel6835

    7 ай бұрын

    450 maintance is brutal.

  • @johnadriani7467
    @johnadriani74678 ай бұрын

    Great explanation of your switch to the Honda 300 Hi5

  • @roads_to_explore
    @roads_to_explore8 ай бұрын

    Leuk filmpje kerel! 👍🏽 ben zeer benieuwd naar je avonturen met deze bike. Ziet er tof uit

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @robertbarel896
    @robertbarel8965 ай бұрын

    great video - keep doing them - i watch everything you do

  • @onenoodles
    @onenoodles8 ай бұрын

    Good video ... had 3 XT's and agree with everything you said except the 70mph thing, I did Euro trips and mine was fine sitting at 80mph and the engine felt it had a little more ... all 3 were stock engines and handlebars, no Kev Mod, no messing with air filter/box or any engine mods and it was fine.

  • @charliem5332
    @charliem53328 ай бұрын

    Good video. I agree with everything you say. And I did love my tenere. It brought me to many places but there were many places off-road that I didn't have the confidence to go with it.

  • @arongitis
    @arongitis7 ай бұрын

    i still have an 2005 crf 250x . i understand what you are trying to get across ! you speak very well . great vid !

  • @umu-i-d2785
    @umu-i-d27858 ай бұрын

    I've owned 2 Harleys, 1 BMW,a Norton, a KZ, Yamaha XS650, CX500, Suzuki 650. My next bike is the Honda XR150L. I'm so looking forward to downsizing to a light, nimble, efficient and support reliable bike. That'll be my keeper bike

  • @tvo7551
    @tvo75514 ай бұрын

    He, thanks voor dit review man! Ik ben aan het kijken voor een lichte adventure bike. En hier heb ik veel aan! Ik ga hoogst waarschijnlijk voor een rally versie van deze.

  • @berkerberker9069
    @berkerberker90698 ай бұрын

    i have an 2018 CRF Rally 250 cc, im very glad that i have an indestructible engined bike.i stand it up on my own when my bike falls when im off roading(dont need an extra buddy to stand it for me).i'm able to cover expenses at this inflation rate which i live in Turkey ^^. im using my bike 7 days in a week and 350 days in a year.I didn't changed extra suspensions or ..etc. This bike only need more accesories ,nothing more

  • @FRUITSWITHROOTS
    @FRUITSWITHROOTS8 ай бұрын

    Good choice. Light is right.

  • @1150gs1
    @1150gs18 ай бұрын

    Great, logical and no hype rundown of your bike change. I had the 660 for a couple of years and really liked it.......apart from picking it up! Quite top heavy and susceptible to side winds. Did you consider the T7 at all? Also what is the armoured sweater you are wearing.....looks like it might be good for quick summertime blasts where weather protection not important. Would you recommend it?

  • @PetterIvarsson
    @PetterIvarsson8 ай бұрын

    Very thoughtful said about the difference between those bikes. I have a XT660Z as you had with Öhlins etc. I love the bike except the top heavy thing that you describe so well. I am considering AJP PR7 or 690. I am suspicious about the CRF300L because I used to ride a WR250R and there were so much lack of grunt. But I will give this bike a try. Thanks!

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    I love the looks and the uniqueness of the PR7. It's a slightly bigger bike and somewhat less nimble in the tricky stuff. WR250R had most of it's power at the higher RPM range, the CRF300 has quite a different motor where most of the pull is actually at the low RPM range. I tested it when the CRF250 was around and allthough the WR had more hp, the CRF was soo much more easy to ride offroad. When it comes to the choice for the CRF, I was in a position that my budget only allowed for the CRF, so the choice was easy. If I was you I would really think about how you will be using the bike most of the time and make a choice based on that, instead of looks or power. But in any case, all the bikes mentioned are great bikes. Can't go wrong with either of them!

  • @johnculbreth4543
    @johnculbreth45438 ай бұрын

    Great explanation of differences!

  • @markgiles8527
    @markgiles85278 ай бұрын

    I’ve never liked the lighting setup and looks on this bike. You have done a great job with your rally tower. Did you make a video about it?

  • @jaroslavmandik2554
    @jaroslavmandik25548 ай бұрын

    Very well made video! I agree with you. I switched to the CRF 300 L Rally from a 2008 BMW F800 GS. And I am very happy. More displacement and power makes difference in (straight line on tarmac) acceleration. Yet in any other scenario the weight is huge advantage. The difference is also more than 50 kg compared to the F800 and it just gives me sooo much more confidence! And to be dead honest to myself: with my riding skills I am not able to handle any 200+ kg and 80 hp motorcycle especially off-road. One thing to me noted though: as a first mod to the CRF do the front && rear suspension. (I have both from RaceTech) It's a night'n'day difference and moves the CRF to a whole new level.

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Very well said! Did you do a fully new cartridge up front or change the spring only (like I bought it)?

  • @jaroslavmandik2554

    @jaroslavmandik2554

    8 ай бұрын

    @@motocamel For the front it is an interesting kit. It keeps the shock absorber body, replaced both compression and rebound valves and the valve stack. It keeps the original spring and adds a second spring in the other fork.

  • @bikesbabes4721
    @bikesbabes47217 ай бұрын

    I had a XT660R enduro. Lighter & better than the XT660Z adventure bike. I used a Power commander & tuned it to perfection in the Outback, it was smooth like a V6! But when the weather turned rainy, the engine would be viby and felt rough. This made the bike somewhat temperamental though very reliable. I exchanged it for a Tenere 700, much smoother & faster but also higher & heavier. Absolutely awesome on long rides or gravel roads, but it takes skill & balls to take it to its ability. Im glad you like the CRF, because I suspect its riding is more effortless. Enjoy your bike & dont doubt your choice.

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    7 ай бұрын

    Enjoy the T7. It's a great bike!

  • @jeffloucks2120
    @jeffloucks21208 ай бұрын

    Totally understand your move. Have a T700, Husky TE250 enduro, and got the 300l to split the difference. Love them all but the go anywhere easy going nature of the 300l finds me wanting to be on it more frequently. Off topic but how are the AS supershirt and linesman pants working out for you? Expensive but the supershirt seems like a game changer for dual sporting.

  • @peerrrrrrrr
    @peerrrrrrrr8 ай бұрын

    Groot gelijk, goeie keuze. Afgelopen jaar heb ik een tijd lang rondgereden met een NX250, en sinds dien staat de CRF300 op mijn verlanglijstje. De NX250 weegt ook net niets, heeft 6 versnellingen, en is ook erg gemakkelijk te besturen, maar heeft als minpuntje dat het ondertussen een erg oude motor is. De CRF lijkt me heerlijk. Alle pluspunten van de Nx, zonder de minpunten.

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Ja vooral de switch naar een nieuwe motor zul je snel merken. Alles voelt en loopt zoveel soepeler.

  • @jhackett9482
    @jhackett94827 ай бұрын

    I hear ya. I ride a heritage on long highway trips but everything else i downsized from a klr650 to a versys x300 and love the light weight, handling and actually better on road in my opinion. If I could just find a better seat. Thats the problem with small bikes.

  • @ridingwithmrP
    @ridingwithmrP7 ай бұрын

    very honest review, did ride a teneree once and the vibration was bad, to many think power is the answer when it’s all about ability(fellow crf 300 rider) ride on ride safe 😊

  • @uncletom1971
    @uncletom19718 ай бұрын

    You made the right choice getting the Honda 300. I ride several bikes, but my favorite is always my Kawasaki KLX230, which is a small but very capable bike for most riding. I commute on it every day, I go on trips on it, and occasional subtle offroading in not too aggressive terrain. The 200-300 cc bikes work everywhere.

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    What kind of tires do you use? I chose to go with Pirelli MT21's, keeping in mind I don't commute on it or even ride that much paved roads. Otherwise it would end up being an expensive hobby.

  • @uncletom1971

    @uncletom1971

    8 ай бұрын

    I use Dunlop Trailmax tires, they're like a budget alternative to Michelin's Anakee. I've had them now for almost two seasons and they still have some thread left. They are mostly good on roads and gravel, not so much in the rough ;)

  • @CRF300LFahrer

    @CRF300LFahrer

    4 ай бұрын

    CRF300L riders, let's gather for some two-wheel fun, Meet up, rev up, let the riding begun! 🏍️✨

  • @uncletom1971

    @uncletom1971

    4 ай бұрын

    @@CRF300LFahrer OK if I tag along on my Kawasaki KLX230?

  • @CRF300LFahrer

    @CRF300LFahrer

    4 ай бұрын

    @@uncletom1971 We can discuss where to meet for a ride. I wanted to start a group for CRF300L riders. Best regards.

  • @dk.650
    @dk.6508 ай бұрын

    After owning the second Tenere I eventually realized that they are just way too too heavy, as an experienced Enduro rider if many years, I agree with you.

  • @tjerkvanderwal7781
    @tjerkvanderwal77818 ай бұрын

    Ik denk dat je de spijker op z’n kop slaat. Deze Crf-jes zijn echt goede offroad bikes als je geen supertalent bent maar wel lekker wil offroad rijden. Ik heb zelf een een crf250L omgebouwd naar een crf300L. Je hebt net ietsje meer power. Tevens zijn ze heel comfortabele om lange afstanden mee te rijden en super betrouwbaar. Minpunten vind ik de slechte remmen en de slappe originele vering. Maar daar valt heel makkelijk iets aan te doen. Laatste pluspunt is prijs. Je koopt een moderne adventure bike voor weinig geld en je kunt meteen lekker op pad. Ik kijk uit naar je nieuwe content over de crf. Veel plezier met je nieuwe bike MotoCamel!

  • @fredrikoskarsson5604
    @fredrikoskarsson56042 ай бұрын

    I agree with you..I have a xt660x that I got 50/50 tyres on to explore gravelroads and so on...I dont do highways so I think about changing sprockets so I could remain in 3 gear on the gravel and small roads..agree on the vibrations worse than my old honda nx650 -90 😂 I think crf 300 is a great little bike👍

  • @studioo8969
    @studioo89698 ай бұрын

    I have an r1200gs and a vstrom1050xt, but there have been many times when I lost all my strength while fighting off-road with something as heavy as 250kg. I am so envious of the CRF300L that passes comfortably next to me. I'm still thinking about the 300L. I have to either give up on off-roading or buy a 300L. In the end, I had no desire to go off-roading until I bought the 300L. Because I had a hard time on the last off-road...

  • @user-lq6zh3mb1t
    @user-lq6zh3mb1t8 ай бұрын

    Ik kocht indertijd een oude DR800S Big om wat meer offroad touring te doen. Deze was ook nogal topzwaar, maar wat mij uiteindelijk heeft doen besluiten hem in te ruilen voor een iets meer road-oriented trail bike was het feit dat ik twee maal een dag ben verloren door op afgelegen plekken lek te rijden. Ik ben nl. niet zo handig in het vervangen van tubes langs de weg. Een tubeless herstel ik in een kwartiertje. Als je daarover nuttige tips hebt mag je die altijd posten.

  • @cooldaddio5862
    @cooldaddio58627 ай бұрын

    Great video and thanks for sharing.

  • @Impedancenetwork
    @Impedancenetwork6 ай бұрын

    I bought a brand new 2023 BMW 1250 GSA as my very first motorcycle. I fucking loved riding that. Within a month I rode it 7,500 miles from Houston to Montana. But after another 2 months riding around Texas I was in a Honda dealership and walked out with a 300L. I love riding this bike. I can get it up to about 77 mph on the highway if I need to go far. I spend most of my time exploring single track trails in Texas, moto camping, and exploring every nook and cranny of Houston. As far as hours I ride the Honda more than the BMW. Having a small bike is the shit. I don't think I would ever buy another bike that was more than 700cc. I like the luxury of my BMW but I love the agility, low weight and small stature of my Honda 300L.

  • @Braapncamp
    @Braapncamp8 ай бұрын

    Nice bike my friend, great approach to your choice. I have never tried the Honda but sure it seems popular and definitely takes people out on serious adventures 👍

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey Mattias! You have the best, so no need to try the little Honda :D But If you want a light, capable and cheap bike for some off-road riding, it's a great bike. Like I said in the video, going to Sweden the last time really played a big part in this choice. I had similar experiences to you when you got stuck on the TST near those bumble bees. For me the feeling that the Tenere held me back from riding on those challenging terrains, combined with the weight, made me pull the trigger.

  • @Braapncamp

    @Braapncamp

    8 ай бұрын

    @@motocamel This week me and Thomas Hansen will meet up again, motocamp and heading to Latvia. Start packing today at least all the base packing.

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Very nice! I’m curious how the event will be. Are you and Thomas filming?

  • @Braapncamp

    @Braapncamp

    8 ай бұрын

    @@motocamel We will get something out of it, the Outduro guys are skilled withbthe camera/edition work so I expect alot of material.

  • @tristrammcneil352
    @tristrammcneil3525 ай бұрын

    You can not go wrong with the tried and tested CRF300l. Longevity in between maintenance schedules, reliability is second to none and it’s a bike that easily suits all riding styles within an enduro environment. There are also many modifications expensive and none expensive that can be made to enhance your riding experience. It’s also a light bike, which means you’re less likely to break any bones if you were to fall off. Certain parts need to be modified straight away, but you have to remember that Honda have deliberately made it affordable for all. What’s not to like?????

  • @ebusdk
    @ebusdk8 ай бұрын

    Great video! very honest and usefull.

  • @ferkuzuel
    @ferkuzuel8 ай бұрын

    Good video, thanks for sharing, its an Interesting comparison, I didn't know the 660xt was that bad on the road, I had the dr650 and currently the 300l, the dr650 was very smooth at 75mph never felt like it needed another gear the 300l can do 75mph but i think its sweet spot is at around 65, but when it comes to off road the300l it feels more manageable , especially with an upgraded suspension

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Everyone has their own experience, but I found it to be not so good in highway rides. That's not the main reason I switched, but the difference is very noticeable.

  • @lukefish7562
    @lukefish75627 ай бұрын

    Good video. I’ve got a Crf300L too and love it. I’ll park my Norden 901 Expedition for it and have a ball all the time. The Crf300L will do anything and not fail you. Enjoy! 🏍️💨

  • @bentravis99
    @bentravis998 ай бұрын

    Great info, thank you!

  • @Tony-zp8xn
    @Tony-zp8xn8 ай бұрын

    I like the look you have going on with the 300L. It more or less looks like a similar setup to the 300L Rally with the larger tank and windscreen, and a great option if the Rally easily found. I bought a Rally a few months ago, and I love it. I still need to upgrade the skid plate, add aftermarket handlebars and grips, and add a 12v socket and eventually a GPS.

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Well the reason I went for the L is the fact I don't like the extra plastics on the Rally combined with the windscreen and strange headlights. But if the Rally was all I could get, I would most certainly buy it.

  • @Tony-zp8xn

    @Tony-zp8xn

    8 ай бұрын

    Very valid point on the plastics. I feel like the extra plastic helps shield my right leg from the heat of the header/exhaust. I also added some Outback Motortek crash bars on mine. They are higher, so they provide good coverage around the radiator area and should help keep the extra plastics on the Rally from getting messed up. I think most riders can't really go wrong with either model of the CRF300. Great bike and I'm happy to own one.

  • @BMRTV
    @BMRTV2 ай бұрын

    I'm in the same frame of mind. I have a KLR which is just feeling heavy and hard to muscle around. Dropping 130lbs sounds great.

  • @wipperwil
    @wipperwil7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for posting

  • @christophroither8206
    @christophroither82064 ай бұрын

    hello, how do u feel about the engine? is it fast enough? by the way... very nice video. thx a lot for your input!

  • @kozivlog
    @kozivlog8 ай бұрын

    So we did the same thing. I switched from XT660R to CRF300L this season. I love my bike and so glad that i did this step. Also have a content on YT driving my Honda. Take care mate :) Sub and like given :)

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks mate! Good look on the ol' Honda!

  • @stoicwarrior346
    @stoicwarrior3466 ай бұрын

    Such an informative video. I came close to buying the honda 300 rally where most of my riding would be done on tar with the occasional 2 up. The engine should have been around at least 40hp just to have less engine stress on highways.

  • @Zinger1650
    @Zinger16508 ай бұрын

    Great video, I have a 300L and love the bike. When I first got it I was unsure about the lack of power, but a new exhaust, Better air filter and 550 Performance remap have made it much more fun. One question I do have is what tower set up are you using? Looks great.

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    I mainly see people from the US change out the ECU for the 550 ones. Is it that big of a difference? I swapped the air filter and did a full Akra exhaust system and am allready happy with the results.

  • @blackmoonkey

    @blackmoonkey

    8 ай бұрын

    ONE ADVENTURE rally tower kit Cheers from 🇮🇹

  • @Nick-me9tl
    @Nick-me9tl2 ай бұрын

    Hoi Anwar, toffe video en leuk ding ook die 300L! Je hebt inmiddels al een hoop aanpassingen gedaan zo te zien. Is het bij een 300L ook nog de moeite om het motorvermogen iets op te krikken of zijn de kosten te hoog voor de winst die je boekt? Bedankt alvast!

  • @garyoneill8868
    @garyoneill88684 ай бұрын

    Very good video.

  • @Scantcity
    @Scantcity8 ай бұрын

    Great job, less is more!

  • @SmokinZen
    @SmokinZen8 ай бұрын

    I have a KLX300 for the same reasons a small bike is fun and better off-road but in California the highway speeds are just too scary to get on with this bike even though it can, but I do my best to search for other routes.

  • @robertozei4459
    @robertozei445919 күн бұрын

    Great video. - What about fuel consumption?

  • @Tobiker
    @Tobiker8 ай бұрын

    I own my CRF300L since 2 Month, happy for sugestions. 👍 Also locking for a CRF Community / Forum to join.

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Which country do you live?

  • @Tobiker

    @Tobiker

    8 ай бұрын

    @@motocamel Switzerland, prever German speaking.

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Tobiker Don't know of any German groups. Im part of a Dutch CRF250/300 community on Facebook. Really helps when you want to know stuff about the bike, share knowledge or help each other out.

  • @Wolfman-me5kd
    @Wolfman-me5kd8 ай бұрын

    Love my crf300l. Once you change restricted exhaust, drill a few holes in airbox ,great bike ,on /off road .could do with better brakes ,is my only gripe

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    I have a full Akrapovic exhaust system. Seems to give some more grunt on the low RPM's.

  • @peterteetaert3125
    @peterteetaert31256 ай бұрын

    impressif review, i am driving a yamaha xt 350 and kicking gets heavey, the crf would be a suitable alternative ,thx for the info

  • @gobear83
    @gobear837 ай бұрын

    Great video… thinking of getting back into dual sport riding after a few years off… looks like Honda CRF300L would be a great choice for me. I love your headlights …are they custom ?? Thanks Gary

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    7 ай бұрын

    It’s a One Adventure Rally Tower.

  • @MikaelALjungblad
    @MikaelALjungblad8 ай бұрын

    Interesting. I am planning to do exactly the same change, for the same reasons. From XT660Z Tenere -2012 to a Honda CRF 300 L or Rally. I think it is a good change 😊👍🏻

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Great to hear you are also thinking about a switch. I preferred the L over the Rally because of the looks and all the extra plastics the Rally had (which might break when falling on tricky terrain). I eventually got a Rally Tower on the L and a bigger petrol tank. So that kind of defeats the purpose of the Rally for me.

  • @mjfalcon007

    @mjfalcon007

    7 ай бұрын

    @@motocamelinteresting concept! Isn’t it better value for money to purchase the Rally rather than upgrade the 300l?

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    7 ай бұрын

    The rally comes with a lot of extra plastic bodywork and and in my eyes ugly windscreen and headlights.

  • @mjfalcon007

    @mjfalcon007

    7 ай бұрын

    @@motocamel yea valid points! After comparing the two in more details I see your point. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I originally had my heart set in the L but a mate has had me thinking about the Rally for comfort and larger tank. Both hard to find second hand at moment and a little out of my price range so will need to save some more.

  • @CRF300LFahrer
    @CRF300LFahrer4 ай бұрын

    CRF300L riders, let's gather for some two-wheel fun, Meet up, rev up, let the riding begun! 🏍️✨

  • @felixperez5932
    @felixperez59324 ай бұрын

    This was an excellent comparison. What brand of windscreen and tower is mounted on the bike?

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    4 ай бұрын

    It’s a One Adventure Rally Tower. Check my latest video where I do a first impression of it.

  • @Onceuponatimejotaele
    @Onceuponatimejotaele8 ай бұрын

    Great video. May I ask where did you get that windshield/front lights from??

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    7 ай бұрын

    It’s a one adventure rally tower from Portugal

  • @Meifesto
    @Meifesto8 ай бұрын

    Gearing of course is an easy fixable problem. But the Honda CRF does have a weight benefit for sure. The sixth gear is a definite plus, but riding 120km/h in 5th gear on the normal XT660R is calm and smooth. But no offroad/knobbies tires. Offroad, I do not have enough experience, so I will believe you immediately ;)

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    The gearbox is the gearbox, you can switch sprocket sizes, but that is going to impact the character of the bike a lot and not all for the good in my humble opinion. 120 km/ph for me was never smooth. Hands would go numb after an hour and the engine felt like you were stretching it too much. Yeah offroad with the CRF300L in my humble opinion is like night and day. And that is what I use it for mainly.

  • @Meifesto

    @Meifesto

    8 ай бұрын

    @@motocamel If that is the main use then it is the best pick for sure indeed. I wonder if it is a difference between the Z and the R, although the differences between the R and the X are slim, I have no experience with the Z, although the Tenere has some for sure. I have done 90 min at 120/130 without problems, Most vibrations are around 110-ish, but never that much that it was a real problem. Stretching the engine comes above 140km/h for sure. It can do more, but it feels like it doesn't want to do more ;)

  • @kostasrestas
    @kostasrestas8 ай бұрын

    Well my man, i had xt660z for 4 years also.. I have same "problems" like you.. But i select T7 and man,im telling you, is soooo much perfect bike.. T7 all the way!! Cheers!!

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    I think the T7 is a great machine. I just preferred a much lighter bike for mainly off-road riding. If I would do more 50/50 I’d chose the T7 for sure

  • @kostasrestas

    @kostasrestas

    8 ай бұрын

    T7 feels very very light ,like bicycle ,compered to xt660z ... but im 1.85cm tall so maybe for this i find it sooo easy and comfortable, its like supermotard i can say... If i wanted even lighter bike i go for crf300l rally for sure.. and hey, KTM s isnt alternative choise, not compere it with trusty Yamaha or Honda , its far more unrealiable bikes, personaly ,i never through my money to KTM crap!@@motocamel

  • @philturner5385
    @philturner53858 ай бұрын

    Agree 100 percent about the tenere, even though I own one and love it.

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Do you mainly use it offroad or for pavement riding?

  • @philturner5385

    @philturner5385

    8 ай бұрын

    @@motocamel I use it both on road and off road,I do find the front end can wash out quite easily in tight stuff, but i have gotten used to it now,but I can’t let my guard down or it will bite me.

  • @Alan-rz2fc
    @Alan-rz2fc2 ай бұрын

    Great choice. I had the africa twin and soon realize it was too heavy in the bush for me So i bought the crf300l rally Way better to handle. It will bring me everywhere i want to go with. Yes less is more Yes riding a slow bike fast is way better than ridng a fast bike slow

  • @76bitches
    @76bitches8 ай бұрын

    Very good video! Please tell me what kind of tower this is, where you bought it, what are its properties!!

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    It's a One Adventure tower from Portugal. Bought it through Instagram. I'm in the process of making a video about it, so a detailed video will follow soon.

  • @pawelpogorzelski4582
    @pawelpogorzelski45827 ай бұрын

    What tankbag is this? I have the same Acerbis tank and looking for something like this. By the way, after 30+ years of street riding I got bored and gradually switched to some offroad. From FZ1 through DL650, XT600 to CRF 300l. So from 150HP to 27HP :D And I love it! Cheers

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    7 ай бұрын

    It's a Mosko Moto Nomini tank bag. Fit's perfect on the Acerbis tank because it's more of a horizontal design.

  • @TheTryingDutchman
    @TheTryingDutchman8 ай бұрын

    Leuke fiets, ik heb er op proefgereden maar heb uiteindelijk een splinternieuwe Suzuki DRZ400 uit Amerika laten importeren. Ik vond de 300 net te weinig pit hebben en als hobby monteur (ex Triumph Monteur) heb ik liever een motor met carburateur dan met injectie. Een 6de versnelling heb ik helaas niet, dat en het verbruik (min/max 15/20km per liter) zijn eigenlijk de enige nadelen voor mij. Verder een heerlijke fiets, 5 seconden 0-100, 140 kilo ongeveer, ben echt mega blij met deze opgevoerde crossbrommer haha

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Heb de DRZ altijd een vette fiets gevonden. Oldskool look en voldoende power. Goede vriend van mij heeft ook net een DRZ400e uit Nederland weten op te pikken. Hoop er ook eens wat kilometers op te maken. Geniet ervan chef!

  • @TheTryingDutchman

    @TheTryingDutchman

    8 ай бұрын

    @@motocamel dank je wel, jij ook van de 300!

  • @alrightdave6135
    @alrightdave61357 ай бұрын

    How is the adventure spec gear? Are you doing a review of the supershirt and linesman pants?

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes. Working on that!

  • @kests
    @kests8 ай бұрын

    How do you find sitting position on crf? I am very comfortable on tenere and crf 250 feels extremely uncomfortable, but I am 195cm tall.

  • @user-hh2st2gb9u
    @user-hh2st2gb9u8 ай бұрын

    I see you put windscreen on it etc. Why did you choose the 300l instead of the Rally?

  • @KurtGAndersen
    @KurtGAndersen8 ай бұрын

    I had a XT660Z Tenere like you and I modified it for thousands of € and I rode it around the world for 5 years and more than 200 k kms. I have to say it was a disaster of a bike! Waaay to heavy and totally unreliable. My bike broke down down big time tens of time and left me stranded so many places! Also the fuel consumption that was 3,5-4 liters pr 100 kms in the beginning changed after 50-60 k kms and it was difficult to get 5 l/100 kms even riding like a granny… Yes the 660 engine is really primitive…😂 Now I have a Crf250L in Thailand that I have ridden approx 50 k kms on and its a fantastic bike. Its a bit modified though. I also have a Crf250 Rally here in Norway which is a bit disappointing compared to my thai Crf as its way down in power. Will try to change ECU to get it to «thai power» Probably the EU bikes are modified due to emission standards.

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    I didn't have the reliability issues with the Tenere. I even sold it to a guy who has no traveled 30k on it around all the post sovjet countries, Turkey and Iran and even he did not have any breakdowns. Maybe try switching to a CRF300 with full exhaust system? I find it to be quite ok in power. Don't know if a expensive new ECU is worth it.

  • @racesportfan
    @racesportfan8 ай бұрын

    Ik had gedacht dat na de 660 de 700 teneré zou worden..Goede keuze deze honda👍🏻

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Ja die optie was ook reeel, alleen stuk duurder en met offroad als main goal, ook te zwaar in mijn optiek.

  • @markesterline959
    @markesterline9597 ай бұрын

    I have rhe crf300l. only thing I wish you got out the box on it was better tires. It's a fun bike forsure. I come from an ultra classic in to the dual sport world. So much more fun

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    7 ай бұрын

    It comes with the price of the bike. If it was more expensive you would have gotten something better.

  • @motodrone84
    @motodrone848 ай бұрын

    I'm currently researching a new bike and am looking at the Tenere. This Honda keeps popping up as a very good bike. How are your highway/offroad rides divided in percentages? And how would you think it will hold up for long trips with a lot of highway involved?

  • @dune6727

    @dune6727

    8 ай бұрын

    It will sit comfortable at 100km /h for long spells

  • @Hifi1927

    @Hifi1927

    7 ай бұрын

    Get a tenere ❤

  • @guidok3762
    @guidok37628 ай бұрын

    Prima video, heb ook een CRF300L met Wilber’s vering. Zit nu in de Zwitserse Alpen en hij gaat prima Offroad, nadeel is de matige remkracht achter. Voor de rest niets op aan te merken!

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Leuk komt te horen!

  • @RT72223
    @RT722234 ай бұрын

    Adorei o seu canal MTS parabéns pelo vídeo MT bom , o seu depósito não é de origem pois não ? Onde comprou? Boas curvas

  • @moturcu4226
    @moturcu42262 ай бұрын

    8:13 it looks beautiful.

  • @bramcornelissen4413
    @bramcornelissen44138 ай бұрын

    Puike video en een goede swich. In Nederland was mijn laaste bike voor dagelijks gebruik en verre reizen, two up, de Ten met een xr400r voor offroad. Nu de nieuwe Ten maar dan in een ander land voor dezelfde reden. En twee crf250l voor offroad. Ik zie me met mijn 62 jaar en slechte rug geen 200 kg optillen na een crash in de Thaise slijk. Vroeg mij af welk protection shirt je daar aanhad?

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey Bram. Leuk om je motoren opgesomd te zien. Ik draag hier een Adventure Spec Supershirt. Zeker een aanrader.

  • @marsoelflaco5722
    @marsoelflaco57228 ай бұрын

    Fair review. How tall are you? How does the seat height feel for you on the CRF?✌🏾

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Im 1.83m I can just get my feet flat on the ground. Perfect for me.

  • @marsoelflaco5722

    @marsoelflaco5722

    8 ай бұрын

    @@motocamel 👌🏽

  • @arongitis
    @arongitis7 ай бұрын

    hello from las vegas !

  • @domesticosdomesticos4217
    @domesticosdomesticos42173 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the review So... power is not everything !

  • @MarcoSanders
    @MarcoSanders7 ай бұрын

    Leuk man!

  • @schemkesa
    @schemkesa8 ай бұрын

    Goeie keuze. Ik begrijp t wel, de echte avonturiers rijden meestal ook op de kleinere lichter machines. Vn ook dat ze eenvoudig zijn te repareren als je ergens in the middle of nowhere zit

  • @motocamel

    @motocamel

    8 ай бұрын

    Simpele lichte motor is idd vaak sneller te maken, maar ook lichter om te tillen en bouwen wat meer vertrouwen op tijdens tricky terrein.

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